Breaking Down England's Defeat To New Zealand | Rugby Pod With Dan Biggar

[@SpiderKillaz]

Dan is an amazing addition to this show. Thank you Dan 😇

[@schnickeringhen]

Yeah he's great. I like listening to all four of them.

[@ashatron656]

Dan Biggar is bloody brilliant, and that's coming from an Englishman! Such great insight, very positive, and no drama. Really respectful 👍

[@mdavidom5903]

Dan Biggar may just be the best pundit-former player. Never saw that coming, but I love it.

[@paulcoomber4009]

Good analysis and Dan Bigger is a great addition to the show with his insight.

[@johne6479]

always been an insightful show this one . .Dan has only made it better!

[@johno9761]

England that was your chance the All Blacks under a new coach only had 2-3wks together you won’t get a better chance.

[@SWEETAZZHORI]

@@johno9761 England hadn't played since March and long season

[@ObiePaddles]

@@SWEETAZZHORIthey played Japan and NZ havent played since World Cup final.

[@callum1971]

They played NZ in New Zealand, any game not in New Zealand is a better opportunity. Also, England players haven't had a break since before the world cup. You can frame it whatever way you want

[@MarkTill-vt3ku]

apart from the rwc semi final

[@maori_brotha]

I'm a Kiwi fan. But England were awesome. That first 60m - England were so tough and strong on attack and defense. Thank God for Beauden!

[@dec1m8]

Let's not forget this ABs only been together for two weeks. I agree that the first test was england best chance to beat ABs

[@fossilmatic]

Lots of people trotting out the “only just got together” excuse. Remember these players have been playing in combinations through Super Rugby, many have played together in the ABs, and the best performance was BB who has apparently come from six months in the inferior Japanese competition. They lacked composure leading to errors. The lack of composure comes from what appeared to be a lack of executable gameplan. If the gameplan is so different it’s too early to implement then it is a coach’s job to come up with a plan suitable to both his team’s strengths and the opposition. Like these guys I have never seen an ABs side so lacking in direction and unimaginative this early in a test season. Even the Blackadder led side was better than this.

[@Trajan2401]

​​@@fossilmaticthat's not the point NZ have lost many players and playing in SR is not test rugby.

[@Trajan2401]

​​@@fossilmaticalso no warm up games against England who beat Ireland and only lost to SA by 1 recently a series win is impressive.

[@Trajan2401]

Totally agree bro.

[@Trajan2401]

I would be worried if i was the opposition NZ only played at 75% yet still won with a new coach new captain new players and no warmup game.

[@dubemccready7438]

Good comments guys, I am a ardent fan of New Zealand All Blacks, what England handed to the A/B's is desirous of a very good opposition and it was a wake up call to get this NZ side motivated. Remembering ten days to prepare for these two games and England was excellent in most parts of their game. NZ was at times had a better finish and so it was the case. Cheers

[@tarutso]

Loving Dan's insights. Learning a lot!

[@keithcrane469]

Big fan of Dan Biggar. What a guy

[@scottmiller4766]

Also say how bad New Zealand is but yet we normally win ???

[@sibusisonogabe2220]

I love the way these guys see the game. Brilliant.

[@BS2Dos]

As England (+ all the other nations) are nearly a year into the next WC cycle, I’d love to have a RP review of each teams progress and areas of improvement we’d like to see over the next 12-months. Think both England and Wales make for good case studies in terms of tracking development. Didn’t see the game, but heard there was some good improvements from Wales in the 2nd Aus test.

[@ObiePaddles]

NZ blew 2 tries early on. The Marcus Smith intercept and the time we over walked the ruck to leave the ball behind Either one and the game is over and the ABs by 20.

[@goldenak25]

Very interesting how the international media is calling this the poorest they have seen, short memories... dont you remember ABs vs SA in Twicks last year, or vs the french the start of the WC both these games wernt even close lol... how poor we have done against france, Ireland and Argies in the last four years under foz breaking all number of undesired records!! I think the biggest thing I noticed for the start of this year for the ABs is discipline..No cards (we play like 80% of our game with a card lol) and having half the penalties last game of the opposition is massive. Infact most of the last games stats are favouring the Abs too apart from the territory, the lineout and a bit of rust around turnovers.. Close test match for both games show the quality of the poms, but the ABs having been playing SR style footy all year and this group coming together with less then 2 weeks with a new coaching style that will be different from the last 20 years... I was expecing a draw at best especially with the amount of key players we have lost: Whitlock, Retalic, Cane, Smith, Frizell, Mounga, Leicester, Jordan, Roigard, Samisoni and now TJ....

[@harrymac5229]

Im wondering what razzor said in 10 days that magically stopped us getting a red and 3 yellow cards in each game we played under fozzie...

[@goldenak25]

@@harrymac5229 Two things come to mind 1)Way less peanlities due to drilling tackle technique (head highs/ clashes... did we do even one?!?) and 2) less offside/maul/ruck general grub peanlties esp defending our own line.. They just seem more clinical with their defence discipline.. The only one that stands out from the ast match was the grubby thing that Taylor did and thats saying something lol!

[@iallso1]

George Ford could be involved in the wider training squad in a mentoring role for the younger players, but I think England need to look to the future and develop the youth to their maximum potential.

[@BertFlashman]

Why would you drop Ford when he could well be the 10 for the next World Cup. Sexton was 38 after all at the last World Cup and Ford will be just turning 35😂

[@kev63inuk]

@@BertFlashman Do feel Bert that Ireland had no one as good as sexton at that World Cup. Still feel now that England are in a better position than Ireland at 10 with just Marcus and Fin.

[@iallso1]

@@BertFlashman it has nothing to do with his age, more to do with the different game plan that England seem to be developing and putting the right players on the pitch to enable that plan to be delivered.

[@LZAK123]

I know they're just making a point but.... comon if you're bring on Dan Carter, he closes out that game

[@gjreedy9526]

😂yep, he gets 3 points every time he’s in the all blacks half. He doesn’t kick the ball to BB, and finds the corners.

[@EnglishVeteran]

Really enjoy listening to Bigsy and Goody! Great insights and knowledge. 1/4 English Jim is missed as.well😂🤣.

[@kev63inuk]

Reckon Jim is 3/4 English really. He will come out the closet when we beat Scotland in the six nations .

[@rodesianRogers]

The biggest difference i have noticed with the ABz is there defence and discipline it has been on point, and also the way they are changing there tactics during the game rather then insisting on playing the same tactics and hoping the opposition just fall away

[@jonomusoman]

To not get a yellow or red is amazing. So many moment under fozzie culminating in the captain going off for a red in the wc final. Was farcical

[@vinylrulesok8470]

England could have put that game to bed in the 3rd quarter. ABs couldnt get out of their own half but they didnt take any points when they were dominant and then Beauden came on and that was that

[@rogue_luko]

Beauden Barrett plays for the All Blacks - what did you expect? It is incumbent on each player to do his utmost best to win the game for his team.

[@vinylrulesok8470]

@rogue_luko yeah, he made a huge impact, total class

[@abhamilton]

Funny how a allegedly ordinary ABS team can still find a way to beat an allegedly good English team. The ABS will only get better

[@waynepirihi9769]

Last 20 ABs go up a level along with new bench….that’s a given

[@stevenbissett]

Double whammy for England this weekend. The Rugby and the football. Poor poms.

[@Canvashed]

Never mind Stevie, maybe nz can be World champs at Cricket, Football, as well as just Rugby......and netball 😂😂😂😂 mong.

[@SWEETAZZHORI]

Netball? Softies 😂😂😂

[@stevenbissett]

@Canvashed NZ were the first world champions in test cricket playing against India in your country, sweetie.

[@Canvashed]

@@stevenbissett wtf is test cricket World Cup?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I think Australia won it recently and looked bemused as to what it was? 🤣🤣🤣 can't even beat Afghanistan you clown 🤣 😂

[@Canvashed]

@@stevenbissett test World Cup is that something you get in a Christmas cracker? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Try winning a proper world Cup like t20 or cwc proper. 🤣🤣🤣

[@stevecoombes2375]

Thanks guys. Great analysis as usual. I was surprised that with our lineout dominance we didn't use a driving maul more. Don't think there was one until right at the end when they almost scored. I felt Freddie Steward looked a bit out of his depth and we need another option at 15. With a better front row we will challenge any team in the world so the future looks good.

[@spottersworld3135]

You forget that the ABs are probably the best team in the world of winning games in the last minute. They have done this so many times it doesn’t matter. It’s a mentality of not being beaten until the last whistle has blown. The ABs may not be playing at the level that is expected, but it doesn’t matter cause they escaped with another win that will help continue to build confidence in winning when it seems improbable thereby making harder for other teams to beat them/close out a game.

[@waynepirihi9769]

The ABs have lost their Aura….bah humbug.so every team thinks they can beat them and that’s the Aura the ABs still have

[@thebigmunch]

Kiwi here...that was a nil all draw in those two tests, as far as I'm concerned...we are new and Razor and his crew have come through on top...silly shaped ball and all that, but that had nothing to do with the outcome...we both have every opportunity before us to lose to teams we thought were 'minnows'...once.

[@rogue_luko]

Unfortunately for you, facts and the history books won't care much for your 'nil all draw' assessment - the English LOST both tests...get over yourself.

[@WhoAmEye187]

Well as far as your concerned your opinion means absolute squat lad because all blacks were clearly better hence why they won both games 😂

[@Lesssvav]

The AB’s are just warming up and the most inform and intriguing players haven’t even been given a game or a real run yet - Clarke, Aumua, Sititi, Proctor, Narawa, Blackadder, Tosi. Etc

[@honahwikeepa2115]

AB have an 80+ minute game.

[@hctnati]

Interesting and it probably goes to what they were saying about kicking. The ABs when Carter was playing kicked more than almost anyone else. But we were perceived as a running team.

[@Trajan2401]

The difference is NZ run it just as much so doesnt matter how much they kick

[@kev63inuk]

Disappointed and bit surprised Dan saying how poor all blacks were and how error strewned they were . Do believe Englands long periods of pressure they put on the All blacks produced those errors. And NZ under pressure have always looked as fallible as most teams . Englands comeback from 17-0 at Twickenham last time out and some of their home defeats in last 3 years or so show that.If we had parity in the scrum we would off won at least one test. NZ will improve but they aren’t out of sight off England anymore.

[@racketman2u]

The England defence was excellent, you have to rock the ABs back on their heels to beat them,,and England did that. Both sides gave away the ball with aimless box kicks, and Ireland have the answer to that; hard direct running. If England had trusted their instincts a little more , it could have been 2-0 the other way. I suspect the ABs have more capacity to improve.

[@WhoAmEye187]

Yes the ireland who lost in the quarter finals "has the answer" lmao 😂😂😂😂

[@racketman2u]

@@WhoAmEye187 if you think they weren't the better side for most of that match you don't know much about rugby. they are the #1 in the world for a reason.

[@duncanhunter2714]

Most of the match??? Hahaha and they still lost. Brilliant.

[@VKM33]

How long will eng run with the ‘development’ line? The future is now!

[@rogue_luko]

100% AGREE!!!

[@kev63inuk]

Future is the six nations and World Cup . Massive turn around for this English team in such a short period . Seen Borthwick do the same with Tigers . Don’t write England off in the six nations.

[@itistrue101]

Funny how the ABs aura has gone but the expectation hasn't.

[@waynepirihi9769]

The Aura the ABs have is still relevant as every team thinks they have a shot now that’s what an Aura the ABs have cemented

[@taurangatalk207]

ABs were really rusty - they always have been in the first test for the year - and the inability of England to match an under performing side is testimony to how poor their side really were..

[@ObiePaddles]

You say thing wouldn’t haver improved if Marcus Smith were replaced by Dan Carter. Maybe, but look what Beauden Barrett did when Perofeta wasn’t playing badly.

[@sinbincreations]

If I was an English rugby fan I'd be frustrated as all hell. Well, my family's English so I halfway am but I'm a kiwi first. Look, it was absolutely a series that slipped through your fingers. Smith, Itoje, Furbank, Slade, Feyi-Waboso, Underhill, and Freeman were all putting in unbelievable shifts this series but I'd be reluctant to give Steve such an easy pass. Fair enough you lost both tests by single figure margins but how is that any different to any of the last ten losses England's suffered. Biggar's right in that the lads will look back at these and ponder on what should have been for numerous reasons. I'm just concerned for English rugby because flattering to deceive is starting to look like it's new DNA. Being our first kick out of the year I'd be very wary of what's coming in November when you consider they'll be battle hardened after what's looking like one of the most competitive RC's we've ever expected. Love Borthwick, I do. But losing by single figures religiously... I'd have doubts when your teams dripping with class across the paddock.

[@DaveClarke-qu7ui]

Freddy steward is slow and turns like a cruise liner, furbank is a far better fullback

[@ManaBlack208]

Yeah well he's built like a cruise liner that's why he's massive for a fullback 6ft 5 could be a lock

[@andrewcavenagh9016]

Inevitably gets caught when trying g to run the ball back - unlike Furbank.

[@solethesis]

England should use dual playmakers in 10 & 15. Such an exciting brand of rugby. The International game is in such a good place.

[@patcow9999]

Whilst I agree that Marcus Smith was having his most influential game, at around the time he was subbed, he'd made a few errors, he looked spent, so I understand his substitution.

[@johnhanson5943]

Agree wirth Dan 100%. Never will we have another chance like that.

[@WhoAmEye187]

Yeah its always "we almost" or "we were so close" but at the end of the day you lost and the english are just not that good 😂

[@Fifty8day]

Beauden Barrett aka bed and breakfast… enough said.🐐

[@honahwikeepa2115]

I think that England just wasn't up for the task. Two cracks at a two week old AB. Seemed that the odds were against the AB. So what went wrong for England? AB looked like a two week old squad.

[@daniele1569]

Great analysis. Changing the 10 was a mistake.

[@dougclark9921]

I'd go Marcus with George on the bench for at least a season. Finn didn't seem quite ready

[@BootsontheTable]

I like Marcus and wanted him to take the 10 jersey for England but i wonder if part of the switch was because they wanted to give Finn a bit of experience? We moan about lack of depth in key positions, and if they take Finn on tour he needs experience and time on the field dont you think?

[@ManaBlack208]

Marcus is good but he could be great if he doesn't kick ball away so close to the tryline crazy stuff

[@tobyslater2011]

Rule 1: You don’t take off your best player + Marcus can move -> 15 if Finn is on. If the coach took Maro Itoje off, I’d say the same

[@BootsontheTable]

@@tobyslater2011 I don't disagree with you. I personally wouldn't have taken Marcus off

[@farmaciamarcomocellin277]

Is possible that one of these 10's would play as 15 to have a double play-maker in?

[@joedennehy386]

Winners are grinners, we played badly and won. England played very well, and earned kiwi respect

[@WhinjingKiwi]

Don’t get it can never kick the ball away like that against all blacks apply pressure otherwise suffer the consequences

[@tomsemmens6275]

NZ are very weak at the moment - the selectorial conservatism of the Hansen-Foster era means we've lost tons of potential players offshore and hung on to an aging team one world cup cycle too long. We are currently 2-5 years away from finding the replacements. DMac isn't a great first five, Barrett and Ione are converted centres, Will Jordan is injured, the future at half back is Roigard, Ratima and Hotham not Perenara and Christie, the loose trio is still unbalanced with Savea not really big enough, our locks are either honest journeyman or raw and the future is Va'ii Lord, Darry and Strange etc etc etc. Our domestic coaches have fallen behind a bit too, partially because we are threatened by the NRL as a product so we've become obsessed with competing with that but also NZ Rugby is currently paralyzed by a combination of internal governance turmoil and fair bit of hubris around coaching....

[@PF-vu2gd]

?????????

[@marcuslouisson5498]

i think you are making too much of the injection of BB, what won the game for new zealand was playing for 80 minutes, and amazing defense, and in my opinion superior fitness, its a team game , the platform has to be set for an individual like BB to operate

[@philbarrance]

I agree with most of whats been said and if i can make an observation as an ex social player and lifelong fan its the 9 box kicking too much! Nothing wrong with a well executed box kick but too often and its predictable and easy to defend and definitely a mistake to sub marcus unless of course it was an injury but as he came straight back on for steward

[@lukeperks1915]

Englands issue as I see it is it seems everything’s clunky when the group first comes together the ‘we get better week on week’ but back to square 1 the next campaign. Six nations we played awful against wales and Italy but got job done. 2 months later winning against Ireland and within a point of France. If those games are in a different order England’s tournament would have looked a lot different

[@rosandpetejohn9386]

ABs were “poor”! What does that say about England? The Roses played very well, but the fact remains the ABs scored more points so this is quite a complement for the ABs.

[@hankgoldenshaft]

Early days in a new system. Give it time (not too much) and see what happens. For example, look how England played in the RWC compared to now. Night and day difference.

[@markhankin467]

Always enjoy hearing how to play from a welshman...ffs help your own mob out

[@rogue_luko]

100% lmao

[@ManaBlack208]

Oh that's right the guy with ants in his pants while kicking conversions ,that's right he needs to focus on Wales they suck bigtime terrible rugby players

[@thehum1000]

Dpnt bring ford back ffs

[@robertmariu6783]

Marcus Smith is first class !! Not perfect.!

[@Rotowhaka]

England were a dubious scrum penalty away from the World Cup final Any Springbok game with a Kiwi ref is like the Springboks having a home Ref, and any All Blacks game with a SA ref is like All Blacks having a home ref.

[@duncanhunter2714]

No way you're delusional.

[@richardscanlan3419]

haha,and any AB's game with a pom ref ius a cast iron guaranteed defeat for NZ.I guess that's why WR kept saddling us with that grub Barnes.

[@jessetamati7136]

Nz 2 games in

[@peterrose8944]

If rush defence is the answer it must have been a stupid question

[@nzfreeski]

ABs were error strewn but it was caused by Eng pressure - but 2-0 (razor first two games) Foster would have lost those two

[@wayneshilcock3027]

You would think the way these guys are talking England should have won by 40 points and this is the weakest All Black side to ever play the game of rugby, we shall see in Twickenem if you're singing the same tune.

[@honahwikeepa2115]

England played well but fell short. Nothing to be ashamed of. AB played poorly particularly in the contact. Their resilience however remains in tact. Both England and the AB's need to dominate the contact like Ireland is. The AB legacy was built upon this. Ireland have arrived. I think that England and the AB's have a better attack. AB' will play the full 80. 79 minutes is a minute short.

[@carlaspinall7418]

England were 17.13 up againt New zealand on Saturday😡☹️😡🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@Edgycoo]

biggest loss england have had in a year by margin

[@carlh296]

England get a pass yes, but getting that pass shows just how far we had slumped during the last couple of years under Eddie. Problem now with the honeymoon period probably over, you rarely win big games with a mediocre front row, and thats all England have, not one world class front row player, not one. The boks probably have 9!

[@boerbru9721]

I think borthwick subs were terrible in both games i think that should drop it to like C+

[@davidgates3498]

Move Steward to 12. He is no longer an option at 15 in this style of England team

[@marktucker7976]

Totally agree have been saying it for a while

[@joedennehy386]

60 40 is a 50% difference

[@Sunflower-dt6ev]

It'll take more than 2 tests to wash the Foster stink from the ABs. For the best part of 3 seasons he coached the ABs into mediocrity, dented the ABs brand, & affected the ABs fanbase psyche. Schmidt & Jase Ryan somewhat helped rescue the slide mid 2022, but Foster still ended with a 69.57% win rate. USELESS. And good riddance. As for this series, Foster would no doubt be 0 from 2 if this was his 1st coaching era. As it was, his actual 1st 5 tests were 4 v AUS & 1 v ARG, for a very lucky draw, win, win, loss, loss. So, for the Razor era ABs to start 2-0 with only 8 starters in the run on team from the 15 starters at the RWC Final, is phenomenal. New coaches, new squad, coaches/players all still finding their feet, huge work-ons, great start v a formidable opponent who'd played 6 tests leading in. And yeah, if the ABs were so bad, why did they win the series 2 zip, again? I don't get the gist of your "England gets a pass mark but the ABs were shit" vibe. The grief talking? See ya in Twickers.

[@phillipearmstrong5510]

Yes that the pont were shit for how meny people play in in this country. Losuers! Props weak we had monster back in the day

[@abyabrahams7639]

The English mentality of rugby or football they always crying on chances that could have been and end up winning nothing. You carnt win any sport based on assumption, entitlement and saying how great you are !!!!

[@rogue_luko]

100%!!!!

[@nicolasnott2739]

"It was so much harder in my day" 🙄

[@ashleysoudah]

Itoje gave away 3 unnecessary penalties towards the end of the game. 🤦‍♂️

[@henzypenzy8216]

Oooh idk i think dc closes the game out!!!🤷

[@royaltyjim]

Anyone with a brain could see how poor this New Zealand side is. A number of players that arent international class. They might be ok in Super Rugby but that doesn't always cut it. Just look at Australia.

[@ozhorrocks]

Mmmm Dan bigger is just very bitter unfortunately. England created the pressure and that equals mistakes

[@Canvashed]

Excuses from NZ for England running them close. Not a mention before the tests about Squad being together for 10 days lack of prep. 😂😂😂😂 plenty aftet thou

[@plunge7429]

We won mate. Don’t need excuses. You’ll have another chance at Twicker’s

[@Canvashed]

@@plunge7429 as least you won't hear any excuses about squad meet ups for only 10 days from England that's a fact

[@partyboi69er]

@@Canvashed bit different mate. new squad, new coaching staff for the ABs. England wont have that hurdle in november

[@tahuwhatuira3207]

@@Canvashedfine line between excuses and facts.

[@austingtir]

If we beat you again at Twickers then im sure we'll see you back being a smarmy cvnt again.

[@andreemurray7039]

England's bench was rubbish but they are improving

[@boxerturner7472]

Get over yourself first England had been together for ages as an ABs fan England were training ground for next stages of all black tea England can not play 80minute rugby

[@CptRumcan]

The British should just merge their teams into one. Everyone on that one island should be in the same British team. That would be a competitive team for world rugby. They don't goto the Olympics as Wales, Skotland, Eng and Northern Ireland. Why are they splitting it up for rugby.

[@CptRumcan]

They could call it the lions... The British Lions or something...

[@user-no4kz9zm4c]

England's short comings where well known We need TIGHT HEAD PROPS [especially] to be fitter and more accurate and clinical with their passing and offloads Foe all the talk of N.Zealand being in transition that was complete BULL Most of the ABs players are old heads when it comes to test rugby Which allowed them to weather the storm and along with B.Barrett ultimately the victory While England are a real team in transition with their style [ attack /defence ] and players

[@michaelmoynihan9591]

Allblacks saved by b barrett. He saved their blushes along with cheating ref for both games.english have better quality young side .kiwi,s are falling rapidly .b barrett getting on now old fart.😂😂😂😂

[@paulhenry2011]

Oh the sour grapes blame the ref excuses..pathetic

[@wayneshilcock3027]

@@paulhenry2011 Don't reply to trolls

[@JohnSmith_1331]

@@wayneshilcock3027 He was posting the same cut and paste nonsense in every video before the games - all about how the ABs would lose the series. Now he's got a new line of BS, but it took him a few days to come back. Guess he was in his basement crying and drinking while he came up with that bit of literary brilliance. So I guess we can expect it to be pasted into every thread talking about the game. Really all you can do is pity his sad life.

[@wayneshilcock3027]

@@JohnSmith_1331 Is just to get a reaction, actually those types of comments really don't say anything constructive to be honest.

[@michaelmoynihan9591]

​@@JohnSmith_1331robbery it was.english maul brought down last run of game.should have been penalty try.previous match last penalty to kiwi,s why.even razor said after wrong decision. Truth hurts kid.my life is brilliant mate.😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sophiegardner6006]

It is just delusional, as long as England team cheat like they did, 6 to 1 penalty count at one stage, there number six spent the whole game cheating he was not on the edge he was off the edge, you can't won and you choke the game. At some point england needs to be expelled for not playing in spirit of the game, the sooner the better for world rugby to be honest. Bits were better that shyte negative display in world cup. The first five is ok and centre was ok but pops were awful. It was a very average ab team lacking five key players and it was the first game of winter if it went to three tests it would have been 40 to 50 point hiding for england depending on the ref. You lot don'i half talk rubbish.

[@davidwalker2402]

I find it hard to see the great progress from England , last 6 games lost 4 won 2 one of those wins was against tier 2 nation. Too many morale victories. 😊England went back to kicking it looked like to avoid running the ball. Everyone raving about smith two great cross field kicks then what an AB threw the ball to him on his own line . But he missed at least 2 tackles he’s lazy getting back and weak in the tackle. But I’m biased I think fin smith would wipe the floor with Marcus .

[@toi8610]

1 point win as good as100