Breaking down the YOYO technique to help increase revs

[@baldbrothersbowling]

PLEASE NOTE: Snapping your elbow, especially with a heavier ball, can potentially cause you to damage your elbow. Corrections have been noted at 5:12, 5:51, and 12:24 to point out that any practice of the first part of this technique should be done only with no ball or a very light ball as I have done in the video. Only proceed to your normal weight ball AFTER you feel you have a smooth transition of the entire motion. Do NOT snap the elbow straight.

[@TheGreatConstantini]

I’ve never been able to do the yo-yo release and may never be able to but finally a video that actually teaches how it is done.

[@NRye85]

I have seen many videos about this technique and yours is the first to breakdown the process into segments that are clear and easy to understand - brilliant and thank you. I wanted to share something that helped me practice my one-handed hand positioning better than anything. I purchased a $30 foam bowling ball from Amazon. It only weighs 1.5 pounds but is the same diameter as a bowling ball. I was able to work on my swing and the position of my hand for a long period of time without the fatigue that even a low weight house ball caused. Thanks for the tutorial! Subscribed!

[@glasswinder]

Thanks that's a great idea 🎉

[@jmt11107]

Really good explanation of the release. Thank you.

[@keithandillard5133]

This is the best explanation. Thank you for the side camera angles.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Appreciate that

[@christakemoto5872]

Wow! You're explanation is easy to follow. Bowled Wednesday night league 243, 165, 209. I'm a 175 average. Friday night league bowled 184, 234, 185. Won the jackpot on both nights. Thank you!!! Bless up!

[@baldbrothersbowling]

That is awesome!!!!

[@phonomime]

I have been playing for over a year and this is the first time someone explains in a video perfectly with motion details and what to expect from the ball when dropping it to create those revs. thank you for this!!

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you.

[@goobytron2888]

Finally! Thank you for breaking this down. What almost everyone shows in practice makes no sense to reality for me. This makes sense. Ironically when I first started bowling in the late 80’s I was doing this and my coach corrected it.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you for the comment

[@kongchar]

Best bowling videos about the release. Super helpful. Thanks

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you.

[@Jason_P]

This is fantastic content! Very well-explained and demonstrated.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you for watching

[@dklyt2358]

This is by far the best-explained demonstration with all components broken down. Much appreciated.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Appreciate that.

[@EmergeMgt]

This was so helpful. I've been trying to get more revs, and it's been hard. This is very helpful

[@ronaldrede9167]

This is the best example I’ve seen of the yo-yo technique. I’m 58 and have recently mastered the yo-yo. Once you do it it’s like riding a bike. It took me about 3 months to figure it out. It seems silly now that I struggled with it. It definitely helps to work on strengthening your wrist first. My wrist was sore until I built up the strength. My league average jumped from the mid 150’s to the high 180’s almost over night. The one thing I do miss is my high handicap! lol.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Appreciate it.

[@stevevanwagenen3456]

What lb. Ball did you use to practice with?

[@baldbrothersbowling]

@@stevevanwagenen3456 I started with a 9lb. Anything you can easily control. You can even practice the motion with a football, softball, or some mini ball.

[@pablomartinez700]

Thank you for explaining it so well. I never understood the yoyo tech until watching this video. Amazing

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Glad it helps.

[@chipgoode]

Probably the best tutorial i've seen. Thank you Bald sir! ^_^

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Wow, thanks! Glad you liked it.

[@smokey6965]

Finally someone actually broke this down on how to work the yoyo. I'm an old school bowler from the late 80-90"s so if i want more revs this is how I go about it, I'm in the category of still working thru more axis tilt/rotation. but this helps a lot

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Appreciate it

[@DJ-TheGrey]

Best breakdown I've seen. Thank you so much, this is exactly what I needed to step my game up.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thanks for the comment.

[@Kolzigstudio]

Keith, thank you so much for the breakdown. The visuals and demonstrations were the pieces I was missing from all other videos. When you demonstrated the straight arm swing with the follow through, I knew from the ball rotation and rev rate that this is exactly what I am doing wrong. I have now gotten my ball speed too high for my current rev rate to be useful, so I sincerely appreciate this breakdown and steps to work on. Now, if I could only install a complete bowling center in my backyard, I would be golden.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Glad I could help. Sorry I can't help with the backyard bowling alley. Lol.

[@izzatismail631]

I’ve been bowling for a year now and no one on this platform has been able to explain this yoyo technique perfectly. Your explanation is on-point and the demo is even better! Appreciate it if you can explain about axis tilt and axis rotation in the upcoming video

[@baldbrothersbowling]

It won't be the next, but it is upcoming very soon. Appreciate the comments.

[@BigBlockRick-gy6ym]

Very good breakdown of this technique …thank you!

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Appreciate the comment

[@AnonymousPerson488]

Great video! Love the breakdown. Gonna check out more of your videos.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Appreciate that

[@senyordwin8123]

Very well demonstrated and explained. I'll practice now the YOYO technique.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you. Please note, start with a very light ball until you got it. I don't want you to hurt you elbow diving right into a heavier ball with it. You can also practice it with a formal or other smaller ball

[@Arsevarius]

Thank you very much! Extremely useful and easy-to-learn content, I have not met such a good explanation

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you

[@TG-ct2uw]

Just picked bowling up again this year and have been trying to fix my release as I don't have much rev rate. This shows exactly what I was missing and helped to better understand the yoyo that everyone talks about, but doesn't show how to practice it. I now can see that I am missing the bent elbow and bent wrist at the top of my backswing and how to "throw" the ball down to start the yoyo effect, which is what I was missing. Thank you for the very informative video.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you and good luck as you progress.

[@rickbrown4123]

Thank you for showing the yoyo technique. I returned to bowling two years ago and have been struggling with rev rate. I went from a 134 to 174 in a couple of weeks. I hope to increase pin count as I get better at the yoyo release.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

It's a process for sure. The 1 step drill is your best friend if you can get out and practice. Good luck.

[@steveneskenazi80]

Outstanding tips! I will try them next bowling center visit

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you

[@leftymk212]

I would like to clarify my post about hurting my elbow. I was practicing this technique not from this video, but from what others had posted about it. This video is much clearer on the technique. Only wish I had seen this one before I started trying it. I now know the key is to start with a lower weight ball and progress up in weight as you become more proficient. What I did to my elbow was hyperextend it, which will heal.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you for that. The tricky thing with coaching on KZbin is that not everything works for everyone the same way, and that is why we experiment. We try things until we find the ones that work for us. I hope you heal up quickly. Appreciate the viewing and the comments.

[@thebigeasy8609]

Good stuff Keith. This was so helpful. Being a dinosaur in bowling I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to teach this dog a new trick but at least you gave me a fighting chance to try. Thanks

[@Melonmadman]

Amazing tutorial, going to give this a practice. I've been struggling with this so much and this video breaks it down so well

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Appreciate that and thank you for watching and commenting.

[@Inphong559]

Great video so far. Love it 👍👍👍

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you

[@chriswebb98]

First video from you guys that I have watched and this one explained the yo yo release so well, that it definitely earned a new sub here! The way you broke this down was genius and just what I needed to get the full understanding in how the yo yo release was done in the bowling release. Going from a vertical release, when using a yo yo, to a more horizontal release when bowling, didn't really make too much sense to me, until now. Thank you for such an amazing and well-explained demonstration of this release!

[@baldbrothersbowling]

I greatly appreciate the view and comment.

[@tpclinic]

thanks again for another great video Coach

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you

[@ScottLittle-h6b]

Brilliant!! Thank you. I guess I had to be ready to hear it to hear it. Fabulous job!

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Appreciate that.

[@CliftonDon74]

Cool video breaking down the arm swing and release. Once everything is put together, it looks like a more traditional 1 handed style.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you.

[@moistyoyster2407]

Clear explanations, an excellent vid. I think it should be called the Golf release.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you.

[@HippieP629]

Wonderful, wonderful video. Thank you very much

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Appreciate that.

[@MprLogHNIC]

Thanks for this video.. Absolutely perfect step by step explanation.. My issue is i think my 15lb ball may be too heavy or me to cup being i just started bowling but im doing forearm and wrist exercises now lol 💪 😂

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thanks. Take a look at our Importance of the Thumb Fit video. If you have a snug thumb, and if you hinge properly, you can flatten or even cup the wrist a little with less effort by pulling back with the thumb vs. curling. Many who struggling or get wrist pain are trying to muscle the ball into a cupped formation. You actually want to be relaxed. You can get that cupped shape with a snug thumb, using gravity, and good technique. Good luck.

[@squidly2112]

As a competitive golfer for more than 30 years, I would say, do NOT tell people that you bend your lead arm elbow at the top of your backswing, you should NEVER do that! .. A good golf swing does NOT bend your lead arm elbow at the top of your backswing. In fact your lead arm should never bend at all until after you have struck the ball. But your analogy of "casting" is spot on! .. in both golf and bowling, one of the most difficult things to train your brain NOT to do, is to "pull from the top". Allow gravity to do most of the work for you at the beginning of the downswing, which also makes it easier (in bowling) to get your wrist cupped and get your elbow bent before the release, then apply your power for the throw and release (applies to both golf and bowling). Great video presentation though. Great explanation of the Yo-Yo release. It took me some time to finally "get it" when I began learning this release. Once the lightbulb comes on though, and you feel it, then it becomes much easier to really learn it .. and .. practice, practice, practice !!!

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Appreciate the feedback. I am a golfer, but certainly not a good coach. I referenced things I have seen, but obviously not perfect. But at least the general idea comes across. Appreciate the comment.

[@russellgilbert3453]

Go, Baldy! 👍

[@baldbrothersbowling]

It's your birthday. We gon' party like it's your birthday. 🎶 LOL.

[@joshuabonnelle6527]

Fantastic video! Tyvm!

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you.

[@robertbillings4464]

A video from the Brad and Kyle channel points out that if you have an issue cupping, due to ball weight, swing back with a straight arm and at the Apex of the back swing you can cup and bend, as your ball is weightless at this point.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

I saw that one. Great video.

[@iceman5117]

I started doing this after I developed some tendonitis in my wrist and it helped a ton

[@ksaga8406]

ive seen so many tutorials from usbc or anyother people, this is the most effective one, mostly the tape

[@bhartissimo]

Thank you so much for this video. It's first time I've seen it broken down this way, and also the first video that talks about the elbow and swing. I just tried the swing at home (back, bent elbow, straight down, straighten elbow and wrist with my 14lb ball with my most snug thumb. I've gotta try this the next time I'm at the lanes. I've been bowling for five months and rev rate is only about 158rpm. So if this can take me up to the 200s, I'll be happy.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

That's great. I recently watched another video from Bad Bad Bowling 101 called "The Yo Yo Release for Dummies." In that video he shows a couple of exercises where kneel at the line and he goes thru how to get used to that motion. It's a really good video and I would also check that one out. Let me know how it goes.

[@bhartissimo]

@@baldbrothersbowling Thanks. I'll check it out.

[@IAmTheEggMan111]

Great explanation

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you

[@anthonydeloach805]

Great training

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you

[@zalvian22]

As a 2 hander, biggest thing i see a lot of 2 handers not doing that lowers their revs is turning their torso enough. Ideally you wanna be looking over your left shoulder (right for lefties) when your ball is at the back of your swing, and returning to center through release. Most of the 2 handed power comes from the knees and the torso rotation

[@donaldchiasson3004]

Very informative. Thanks

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you

[@jefferydaniels6717]

Many shops like to put pitch (direction hole is drilled) in the thumb simply based on which hand you use. This can be a huge hinderance if it's not correct and force the hand to turn over to clear the thumb. Make sure you know what your pitches are.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Absolutely. I was having arthritis issues and worked with my PSO to completely change my grip. After a lot of trial and error, found that a combination of the Sarge Easter along with a lot of left pitch on the thumb to get the ball more in my palm helped my pain. And I have learned to tweak my release to where if you didn't see my ball, you'd never know. I am lucky to have a FANTASTIC PSO. Appreciate the comments.

[@glasswinder]

Thanks for this instructional video, I was trying this today and I got a lot more revs but the ball seemed to be rolling over the thumb hole, I could hear it bump bump bump down the lalane this is my first time im gonna put some tape on the ball next time.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

I am in the process RIGHT NOW of downloading what I feel is a precursor video to the YoYo. It's really for those struggling to get the YoYo down. It strips it back to basics, starting with rolling the ball forward (which will likely go over the thumb hole), but getting used to maneuvering your wrist accordingly. You progress into then adding in a slight turn of the wrist. That may be all you need, but the full YoYo would be level 3 after these 2. Maybe give the Roll It, Don't Throw It video a look. It might help. Thanks.

[@jimkangas4176]

Interesting. I got into these videos when I bought a ball (I bowled duckpin as a youngster) and had trouble with my thumb getting stuck. I've pretty much got that straightened out by not cupping but barely bending the wrist. There's been a lot of controversy on other channels which claim that you do NOT have to cup the ball at all but get under it by straightening the angle of your elbow at or near release, versus only stronger folks have the wrist strength. Something to play with. My problem now is that in a mantra I have now not to "pull it", my rotation is a bit difficult to control, and sometimes it goes too straight.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

I should clarify that I really don't cup, I load. I am old school and those terms were a bit more interchangeable, but they are different. With loading, the wrist is a combo of slightly cocked in and slightly cupped. My example was a bit exaggerated. It's a way of getting your fingers both inside the ball and under the equator. With a proper fit and technique, it doesn't require strength, and I didn't really discuss that well here. I am hoping to address this more in future videos. The yoyo goes from loaded to uncoiled more than cupped to uncupped as I stated.

[@thegreatpugtato]

I tried to get this for 3-4 years but couldn't do it so I switched to two handed like 5 months ago and have been much happier since

[@baldbrothersbowling]

It is much easier to get these revs 2 handed. If I haven't been bowling already for 45 years, I would probably be a 2 hander also. I do practice it a little at times so I can help coach it. Thanks for watching and for the comment.

[@TenthFrameStrike]

Well explained.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you.

[@JSBowling2011]

Bending your elbow is not so easy if you haven’t been doing it, I noticed that when you went to use your regular ball, you couldn’t bend your elbow so I think cupping your hand and uncupping the ball at release is good enough if you can’t bend your elbow, which is what I do and it’s effective. Jim

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Agreed. Thanks for watching.

[@JSBowling2011]

@@baldbrothersbowling by the way, that was a great video!

[@baldbrothersbowling]

​@@JSBowling2011 thank you

[@mattwilliams5584]

I like to think about it as "thumb dumping" the faster you can eject your thumb while following through with upwards with the fingers. The faster dump your thumb from your ball the more revs you'll get.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Yes, great way to think of it. I like that.

[@chrisp2416]

I had a hard time with bending my elbow mid-swing, and its still a work in progress. Couldnt understand how to bend it without lifting the ball which seemed wrong, I realized I just need to focus on dropping my shoulder slightly as the ball is coming down, and letting the ball float by briefly (if that makes sense) idk but it seems to help.

[@BUSTANUTELLA]

also a good bending in the knees to get low can help you get under the ball!

[@JonnyPatton-d1j]

Use your knees. Dropping your shoulder isn't a good thing

[@mxjosh18]

@@JonnyPatton-d1ju may wanna expand on that more becuz a lot of pro’s and high end coaches teach dropping your shoulder. Its quite prevalent amongst pba bowlers. Less used with amateurs.

[@JayFernandez-q8l]

@@JonnyPatton-d1jYou want to drop your shoulder not dropping your shoulder is old school.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

@@BUSTANUTELLA I agree with this. I have a bad left knee (I tore a tendon last year, having been wearing a brace, and trying to work back at getting low without a brace). If you CAN get lower with knee bend, absolutely. For those with physical limitations, you do have to manufacture other ways to achieve what you need.

[@iamrokmusik]

For all those that want to throw the ball like EJ Tackett: The best way is to buy a really light ball and practice the techniques. Perfect the techniques before you increase your ball weight. You'll find that you learn it was faster and are able to build the needed strength to perform the techniques with the correct weighted ball.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Agreed. I used a 9lb ball in the video and recommended that, but many people seem to miss that point. Guess I gotta explain better. Appreciate the comment

[@iamrokmusik]

@@baldbrothersbowling Yes! All my interactions with people who are trying to learn this is always, "I'mma use my 15 pound ball and put in work.." It's like, your muscles aren't ready for that!!!

[@joewalker6931]

Can you do this with a tucked pinky, close straight pinky, or wide straight pinky? I bowl with a tucked pinky right now. Thanks. Super excited to try this with a light 10lb ball I have laying around.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Absolutely. The pinky shouldn't have much impact on this. I think it is a tiny bit easier to get the hand inside the ball with a tucked pinky, but it is negligible. That's really a comfort thing. I used to tuck, but started rubbing on my pinky knuckle, so I switched and while it took a little to get used to how it felt, it didn't really change anything in what I do. There are many pros who tuck and many others who do not, and most of them, either way, are really good at this type of release to achieve higher revs. Good luck to you!

[@joewalker6931]

Will work on it this weekend. Will report back. Ty

[@darrylyamamoto8466]

What would be the more ideal grip (or easier grip) to use this yo-yo release. Something like a conventional grip? any suggestions?

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Finger tip is always best to help with revs. It allows the fingers to be farther under the ball. That said, I use a really light, conventional grip alley ball to practice the motion first. You see I used a 9 lb ball in the video. Once you get the motion down, you can move to a heavier, finger tip ball. I always encourage all the kids we coach to get into finger tip as soon as they can. Thanks for the question.

[@BoomboomGee]

What is the best pitch of the ball in order to do this?

[@baldbrothersbowling]

That is going to be different for each person. Whatever your normal pitch is should be fine, but you can work with your pro shop to fine tune that.

[@williamwalker8061]

I have looked carefully at the release at 9:00. I do not see a yo yo release. It looks like a firm wrist, not broken at any point including the follow through.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

While it isn't broken back, it has gone from cupped to flat. I am not an expert at it which is why my Rev rate is 385, not 500. But while my movement is more slight, it is enough that I have increased about 60 rpms thru practice. I also have arthritis, and my flexibility is a little more limited, but it doesn't take away from the concept. I appreciate the watch and comment.

[@venezuelagrandiosa9409]

Okay but wich is of the technica to blent and to havw hand under the ball.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

I am sorry, I don't quite understand what you are trying say or ask here.

[@avoidmysnipes7541]

I wish you would make a video explaining 2-handed bowling in this specific of a manner 😭 such a great quality video Edit: I cannot believe you added 2 handing at the end… oh my god

[@baldbrothersbowling]

I try to make sure I am addressing both audiences if I can, if the concept applies to both. If I ever miss something though, let me know and I will address it. Appreciate you watching.

[@faezpaiesh8394]

Can you do a video for those using wrist guard .

[@baldbrothersbowling]

I have added that to my list of videos to do.

[@SHADOWMAN_24]

Do you still keep a pendulum swing while cupping your wrist and bending elbow?? This video was great.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

From pushaway to backswing, yes. Once you get to the peak of the backswing and you start the downswing, that is when the elbow bend a little. Don't overdo it, just a little bend as you start downswing, and then do what the video shows. Start with a really light ball until you get the feel. That does help.

[@happybowler]

To your opinion, do 2 handers need to use yoyo technique?

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Nobody NEEDS to do it. The yoyo is a technique that can take Rev rate up a notch. That said, people have bowled successfully for years without it. Regarding 2 handers, most (I would have to see video) automatically have the bent elbow and bent wrist as the ball lays on their forearm a little. Ideally, as you start the slide/plant step and the downswing, you should start to straighten the arm and roll the ball off your hand as you straighten the wrist right at release. I have seen many who do their arm over the top which you don't want to do. Keep your elbow on and your hand behind or even inside the ball a little. As you straighten the wrist and roll the ball off your hand, you will be turning your hand over some, but don't roll all the way over. Best suggestion is to watch some 2-hander slow motion release videos, and pay close attention to the position of the elbow and hand when it reaches full backswing, and what they do as they start the downswing and on thru the follow thru. I hope that helps.

[@davidhenderson3895]

How tight should the thumb hole be?

[@baldbrothersbowling]

I would go to our video on this topic. It explains it best. Overall it is snug but tight. This means you don't want to stick in the thumb hole, but as tight as you can be without sticking. Note that sticking could also be a symptom of bending the thumb at the knuckle rather than hinging at the base of the thumb. See this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXzGmYaJbNaWjac

[@Nativetuna123]

Is this the technique thumbowlers use?

[@baldbrothersbowling]

The general concept is similar with or without a thumb.

[@lt8473]

I have a lot of revs. And I watch others that do to. We all have one thing in common. At the end of the release our hands are in a fist. Is that doing something wrong?

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Not at all. It means you are lifting hard with your fingers at the release. I am not in a first but fingers are folded at the knuckles by the hand. Same principal. You are doing that right.

[@lt8473]

@@baldbrothersbowling thanks.

[@surfboardshack3327]

Does the wrist collapse while the thumb is still in the ball or is after the thumb has cleared? I notice for me when I try to un-cup before my thumb exits my thumb hangs and my revs go down significantly.

[@Interdicted]

U not intentionally bending ur elbow, when u come down from ur swing, u stop upper arm (bicep area) so ur forearm will automatically reach under the ball

[@baldbrothersbowling]

It is before, but timing has to be great. Right at the end of uncupping it will start to come off the thumb. It is very quick like a whip and takes some practice to get down. This is why I like trying with a very light ball first. Thanks for the question.

[@phonomime]

Bro can you make a video on how to throw a backup ball?

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Lol, I can add it to my list.

[@truetruths8090]

Wouldn’t bending your elbow on the down swing be considered muscling the ball?

[@Buckinghamrabbit]

Only if you pull on it lol

[@baldbrothersbowling]

I would say bend elbow the entire swing is. Just on the down swing if done properly really isn't. Appreciate the question.

[@joehoenig7596]

For those bowlers who need a wrist support, the yoyo technique is just a dream, because supports only allow cupping, not uncupping. What do you suggest for those bowlers?

[@baldbrothersbowling]

You are correct. There have been a few comments from those with wrist braces, so that gave me the idea to do a video specifically about that. Be on the lookout for that coming soon.

[@joehoenig7596]

@@baldbrothersbowling Looking forward to it...While there is no doubting the role rev rate plays in the "modern game", not everyone can do the yoyo release. This can be because years of ingrained muscle memory of not releasing the ball this way, or because, as in my case, I need to wear the support. California Bowling products sells an expensive adjustable wrist support which uses a system of springs and tensioners to allow the support to cup and uncup, but when I tried it, it fell short of truly allowing the yoyo release. The wrist support question usually morphs into the larger questions of are more revs the only path to higher bowling scores, can revs be generated if you wear a support, and if not, what alternatives does a lower rev bowler have, to remain equally competitive and hold their own. I am curious to see how you will address these questions and look forward to your vid.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

​@@joehoenig7596you are correct. I talk a lot about muscle memory in other videos, and I, myself, have arthritis which limits me. I have no doubt a wrist support may be in my future. And you can achieve high scores and averages without massive revs. By no means do my videos suggest you have to do these things to bowl well. Everyone is different, so when trying to coach the masses thru KZbin, I have to try to cover a bunch of topics, and people have to choose the videos that work for them. I prefer 1:1 coaching so I can tailor lessons, but hopefully for those where the yoyo doesn't work, other videos will. This video is mainly for those that are in a place where this might be the next step. Appreciate the conversation.

[@larrylacroix3944]

Thank you for your reply but I have always worn a wrist glove so now I know the yo-yo release is not for me

[@baldbrothersbowling]

It won't be. It is for those wanting to really increase revs, but for many, just work with what you got. Not everyone needs that many revs. Appreciate you watching.

[@larrylacroix3944]

With wearing a wrist glove how do you do a yo yo releasfe

[@lonestarpatriot876]

You can't perform it properly with a wrist brace. Ditch the wrist brace. If you can't do so, you will just have to accept that you won't be able to do it properly. Wrist braces greatly reduce rev rate due to this.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

As the other comment said, you can't with a wrist brace. This is for those who strikes the ball and want the extra revs. I like the idea of a video to help those with the glove though. I will have to work on that.

[@Duskydog419]

Yo-yo technique feels like you just forgot your keys when you drop the ball 😂 then you get a strike.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

As long as you strike, right? 😂

[@jimmyscott6159]

Would you say it’s more difficult for a Super Senior Bowler to master this technique?

[@lonestarpatriot876]

Everything is more difficult for super senior bowlers. You don't see super senior bowlers with high rev rates.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

It is. I have arthritis myself which hinders me. There are some other technique videos coming that will be better for the senior bowler.

[@AMFthereturn]

Ohh man. This could really get someone hurt. Too long of a list of corrections for comments. Stay tuned for the reaction on the Breakpoint podcast where we break this video down. I truly hope none of the 16k people that watch this hurt themselves. Im assuming someone taught you this was. But its important to have an understanding of the fundamental principles of the release and why you do certain things at at certain times. At no point is lifting involved. You also do not have to cup your wrist throughout your swing. As for the rest it will be on the podcast. If you want to watch it go to Bad Bad Bowling 101. If you need help learning about the philosophy and science behind the release we are glad to help. Also Jr. Raymond and The Brad and Kyle Channels both have excellent tutorials on how to use the yo yo release properly without risk of injury. I hope you think about some of these things and do a bit more research on biomechanics, inertia and physics. That will help you understand the release and why it’s a positive thing for bowlers. Normally i really enjoy your content but this video was very concerning. Hopefully you dont take offense to the criticisms and simply think about the context.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

First, let me say that I appreciate that you normally like the content. I do appreciate that and all feedback. Regarding this video, I see the flaws, and let me explain where I was coming from. There are many videos on the yoyo, and I see so many comments from those who don't understand it, don't like it, or cannot do it. My attempt was to peel it back into sections. The intent isn't to snap the elbow as much as I show, and I can see now how one could do that, especially with a heavy ball, which is why I start (and suggest) starting with a light ball to get the motion down. My objective is always to look at and explain things in a way that might help those that struggle with many typical tutorials. As I said, I can see how it could cause issues if done wrong, and I will look at seeing if I can modify the video when I get home from my regional. Regarding your podcast, I am fine with you dissecting my video and correcting issues. I simply ask, as a coach myself who is trying to improve our sport and has helped MANY improve, that you do so by focusing on the video itself, and not having it be an attack on me specifically. I appreciate it.

[@AMFthereturn]

@@baldbrothersbowling thats fair. The criticisms are not on you as an attack om your character but purely a corrective action to make sure as coaches we get out the most accurate and helpful information to not only direct clients but to our community online as well. After speaking with Coach C. Wed love to have you on as a guest to go over your ideas and philosophy on this video. Hopefully we can make that happen. And ill still be tuning in to future content. You haven’t lost a fan simply because i disagree with how you express yours ideas on this particular technique. Thanks for listening.

[@AMFthereturn]

@@baldbrothersbowling thats fair. The criticisms are not on you as an attack om your character but purely a corrective action to make sure as coaches we get out the most accurate and helpful information to not only direct clients but to our community online as well. After speaking with Coach C. Wed love to have you on as a guest to go over your ideas and philosophy on this video. Hopefully we can make that happen. And ill still be tuning in to future content. You haven’t lost a fan simply because i disagree with how you express yours ideas on this particular technique. Thanks for listening.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

​@@AMFthereturnI appreciate that, and yes, I would love to come on the podcast. My email is [e-mail] if you want to connect outside of this message string and we can discuss details.

[@joepic85]

i feel like I can get either 0 degrees of rotation or 70-80 degrees. Nothing really in between

[@baldbrothersbowling]

It takes work. I would suggest start with some 1 step drills, and throw softly and try to focus on your hand position. See if you get some 30-40 degree angle and how that feels. If you can do that, repeat over and over with that drill, and slowly start to bring your steps back in.

[@kxdirtydanx2788]

I’m a 180 average 2 handed bowler trying to improve. And I have been doing this, this whole time and didn’t know it was a whole technique. But my biggest problem is laying the ball in the same spot everytime, and have a hard time slowing my feet down. Dose anybody have any tips to make it easier to slow my feet down, and laying it down in the same spot?

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Often times when targeting is off, it can be an issue with timing. Nailing down timing with repetition can help with targeting. Without seeing you bowl, here is what I suggest. Start with 1-step drills. Don't "throw" the ball, but ease into a nice roll. Keep your feet together at the line all what thru the back swing until you feel the back swing hit the peak. In a recent Brad and Kyle video, they refer to this as the weightless zone where the ball is momentarily weightless as it moves from going back to starting forward. When it hits that weightless zone, that is when you start your slide step so your step and your downswing start at the same time. Again, don't heave the ball, but let gravity bring the ball down, and let the ball ROLL off your hand. Do this over and over and over again until you feel like it becomes natural. This may take you several practices of JUST this over an over. Eventually, when it feels natural, progress to 2-step where feet are together, start the push away, and as the ball passes your knee, take the 1step. You will land that step about when your back swing hits it's peak, and you continue into the 2nd step (slide step), just like before. Do that over and over. When you get these 2 steps down, move to a third step where your push away but then take that 1st step right after you extend the pushaway, 2nd step as it passes your leg, 3rd step when you hit the weightless zone. Then you move to 4, start push with 1st step, 2nd step as you finish push away, 3rd as it passes your leg, 4th as you hit the weightless zone. If you like 5-step, then you can add the 5th step where the 1st step gets you moving, but you don't move the ball until the 2nd step. By breaking this down this way and starting 1-step, you can slow yourself down, and focus on rolling the ball, not throwing the ball. That can help you become a bit more consistent in targeting. I hope this helps.

[@OpusRex]

Yes - You’re actually “throwing” the ball onto the lane. People don't understand why you should not think “I’ve got to hold onto the ball.” The ball holds onto you - Relax and keep a soft elbow.

[@marie-charlottedufour380]

Dommage que le sous titre ne soit pas en français. Je vais essayé avec ce que j'ai à peu près compris.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Je suis désolé. J'espère que vous pourrez le comprendre. Si vous avez des questions, je peux utiliser l'IA pour essayer de traduire.

[@marie-charlottedufour380]

@@baldbrothersbowling Oui ce serait sympa...même si l'IA ne traduit pas exactement. Je savais qu'il y avait un mouvement à faire en yoyo.....mais il fallait une bonne explication. Je vais essayer demain à mon entrainement. Merci beaucoup.🥵 y a du boulot. En France il n'y personne qui explique ce genre de geste.....en fin de compte le bowling chez nous a tendance à ne pas évoluer . Déjà très peu de bowling qui passent aux ficelles. sauf le mien, mais pour combien de temps ???

[@baldbrothersbowling]

@@marie-charlottedufour380 J'espère que les traductions seront suffisamment proches. Je ferai tout ce que je peux pour aider avec cela ou avec nos autres vidéos pour faciliter la sortie. Bonne chance pour l'entraînement. Une chose à noter : ne pratiquez pas le premier mouvement de l'extension du coude avec une boule lourde. Utilisez une boule très légère pour maîtriser le mouvement. Utiliser une boule lourde peut blesser votre coude. Passez à une boule plus lourde seulement après avoir maîtrisé l'ensemble du mouvement et qu'il semble fluide.

[@marie-charlottedufour380]

@@baldbrothersbowling Je n'ai pas de boule légère , je joue en 14. Je vais prendre une boule droite du bowling . Si j'en trouve une à mes doigts. Où puis-je voir les autres vidéos ? Il va falloir que vous veniez en France 😂. A bientôt , je vous tiens au courant si j'y arrive . Bonne journée

[@baldbrothersbowling]

@@marie-charlottedufour380 Peut-être qu'un jour j'irai en France. En attendant, toutes mes vidéos sont sur notre chaîne KZbin. J'ai créé des playlists en fonction du type de vidéo, donc nous avons des vlogs de tournois, des vidéos éducatives, des vidéos de divertissement, etc. Lorsque vous allez sur la chaîne, cliquez sur Playlists puis sur Éducation et vous verrez les différentes vidéos que nous avons à ce sujet. Si vous vous abonnez à la chaîne, toutes les nouvelles vidéos apparaîtront également dans vos abonnements. J'espère que cela vous aidera.

[@louiskuamoo]

Teaching bad habits to learner bowler! They'll have wrist problems eventually! We learned relax your hand on your swing, cup the hand at the bottom at the release point! What's more realistic?

[@baldbrothersbowling]

The motion requires going from cupped to uncupped right at the release point. I am not teaching them to cup the whole way. This video is from the top of the backswing forward only. You can be relaxed from the pushaway all the way to the peak of the backswing. But once you start the forward motion into your slide step, that is when you start the cup. Then at the last moment to start rolling the ball off your thumb, that is when the uncupping starts. I cup the whole way, but that is just what I do and am not teaching that. That is why I focused this video on the downswing. I will be showing slow motion videos of several pros that highlight exactly this.

[@scrobag1]

Excellent video but maybe the center can turn off the music.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Yeah, they love the music there. I was even doing this before they open, and this was quiet compared to other videos. He did turn it down later in the video. I still greatly appreciate Mockingbird Lanes for allowing me to come in and shoot videos. Despite having to work around the music, they have been very good to me.

[@pebbleschan6085]

I thin the he yo-yo analogy is terrible. It makes it seem that you’re throwing the bowling ball straight down onto the floor.

[@mikehaggerty8061]

basically that IS what they are doing.

[@rob13773]

You throw the ball to the floor but it’s not straight because you pointed the thumb at 12-11 o’clock and the fallow through rev the ball forward

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Yes, this is why I said that was exactly why many hate it, and I broke down how to approach it without doing that. It's a common perspective you have and I tried to address it. Thanks for the comment

[@houstonhometownbowlers7364]

Facts 😢

[@pebbleschan6085]

A yoyo weighs 66 grams, a bowling ball weighs about 6600 grams - 100 x heavier! No wrist and elbow action can muscle that effectively. No one uses gravity assistance to spin a yoyo.

[@tre4743]

perfect video thanks for the tips 👍

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you.

[@2y2bowling]

It is not about muscle, it is about inertia, the mechanics are well described but this technique is not like that, pro bowlers that use it do it by taking advantage of gravity and inertia, not muscles. In the way you’re explaining it somebody’s gonna get hurt. Efficient modern release does not need you to use wrist or elbow muscles.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

I don't disagree. You have to remember this tutorial was trying to break it down for people who have tried and can't. It's another approach to try to get there. And I start with a 9lb ball which I recommend. If someone jumps right into a 15 lb ball doing this, they could hurt their elbow. But if you start light and get the feel down first, it becomes smoother. I do appreciate the commentary though. Thank you for watching.

[@flutterbydragonfly]

Great information and demonstration but it’s so dark.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Yeah, I lightened it post production but I could only do so much. I do plan on investing in some lighting once I make a little more from the channel. That will make a HUGE difference. Appreciate you watching.

[@flutterbydragonfly]

@@baldbrothersbowling great advice! I am definitely going to be trying these techniques the next time I go bowl. I just found your channel tonight and I subscribed so I hope you gain a large following very soon. I have alien bee lights that are photography studio lights but they do have a constant light feature so that might be something that’s affordable?

[@baldbrothersbowling]

​@@flutterbydragonflyappreciate that. I will check those out.

[@lonestarpatriot876]

Your hand does turn some. If it didn't, the ball would simply go straight. You actually illustrated that towards the end of the video. The hand does turn over some and does not simply stay directly behind the ball and come straight up.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Yeah, the straight demo is there to try to keep people from over turning. It's the biggest issue I see when people try to hook the ball. If they start straight and move into turning it little, it's usually better. But it's hard to coach to the masses like this because everyone is different. So I do the best I can to get people to try things until they find which work for them.

[@lonestarpatriot876]

@baldbrothersbowling You did a great job on the video. I think sometimes people get confused when they hear to stay behind the ball and don't turn the wrist, but they also see the wrist turn some. I do understand what you were trying to get across. This is one of those topics that is hard to explain to anyone.

[@knuffel3225]

Good explanation...... but is miss the comment that it will take a long period of time to get this correct in youre system and timing...... specialy for people who have a muscle memory of a lot of years....... but it breaks down the motion in the release

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thanks. I do talk a lot about breaking down and re-establishing muscle memory in most of my videos. Didn't hit on that here. Appreciate you watching.

[@addisonjones5389]

The process that he is talking about isn't easy. That is why he said that you start with a lighter ball and practice it until you get used to it. Then, you have to work your way up to it until you are prepared to do the yo-yo release. This takes time it's a marathon, not a sprint.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you for that!

[@stupendous1068]

Appropriate song playing in the background at the start of the video.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Up Around The Bend, because of the bend in the elbow? Lol.

[@stupendous1068]

@baldbrothersbowling Yes indeed.

[@StayFrothy90]

Your slow motion explanation is different from your actual high rev release

[@baldbrothersbowling]

My slow motion is what you are attempting to do, and is a breakdown of what you see pros do. It's not simple to accomplish, especially for a 50 year old man who is trying to go against 45 years of established muscle memory, so my own full speed may not quite be perfect, and it is why I don't have a 450+ Rev rate. But it's what I think through as I try, and those attempts are what lead to an increase from previous Rev rate.

[@StayFrothy90]

@ I just rolled 4 games trying to copy you in this video. I had about 6 perfect releases/strikes, but I found it pretty challenging to perfect the shot. I’ll keep trying it. Do I need to have my ball redrilled for this shot? I had it drilled against my old shot.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

@@StayFrothy90 You shouldn't need to redrill anything. You need to have a good fit, especially in the thumb if you use the thumb, but it really just takes practice. I don't remember the number, but it takes hundreds of reps to establish new muscle memory. As you pointed out, I still struggle to perfect it, so you just gotta keep at it, or tweak things for yourself as you go.

[@Raideen_Mazinger_Grendizer]

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[@baldbrothersbowling]

Thank you

[@xouijit77]

Although I do appreciate the content, a disclaimer is warranted. Somebody is going to blow out their elbow doing this. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

It does look jarring. That's why I like to start with a really light ball until you get the motion down.

[@therayveneffect]

I feel like this would destroy my elbow...

[@baldbrothersbowling]

It does look jarring. This is why I start with a really light ball until I got it down. Definitely don't wanna blow out the elbow. I got another coming up soon that might be better.

[@innoxinnox2379]

I’m pretty sure most people know how the yoyo technique can increase revs. They just don’t know how to get their wrists strong enough to support a 16lb yoyo…

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Most know THAT it increases revs, but not how it is done. Yes, many do, but many do not. This video is for those that do not. As for how to do it with a heavy ball, my video on the importance of the thumb fit explains how a thumb should fit, how to pull back to cup the wrist instead of curling it, and how that can make the ball feel lighter. Hope that helps.

[@leftymk212]

I was practicing this and it hyperextended my elbow.

[@mxjosh18]

If you’re not joking, sounds like u straightened your arm quickly in a jarring way. Should still be smooth for repeatability.

[@baldbrothersbowling]

Oh no. Were you using a really light ball first? Keep an eye out for my next video on the spiral technique. It might be better for you.

[@leftymk212]

I’m not joking

[@leftymk212]

@@baldbrothersbowling I was using my 15 lb ball

[@baldbrothersbowling]

​@@leftymk212so sorry, I hope you didn't hurt yourself. Starting really light is best, but like I said, there will be another video coming with a different technique. That might be better for you.

[@bonesballreviews]

U switchin

[@baldbrothersbowling]

To 2-handed? No, but good to know if I worked on it, I could maybe do it.

[@ohnooooooooooooooo]

@@baldbrothersbowling It looked pretty solid! As an unrelated note, if you're using adobe premiere, it might be easier to nest the footage after cutting and editing before applying any levels/brightness to the footage - it'll do it all at once rather than separately to each cut which might be what causes some of the brightness changes in the vid.

[@badbadbowling101]

I will say this if your going to teach this technique I would recommend you getting insurance. If people follow your instructions they will hurt themselves like blowing out elbow. Not that we have cover that step one you don’t have to cup your wrist to get under the ball nor should you recommend it. To get Uber the ball is as easy as just bending the elbow. Second you don’t need to force your arm down nor do you ever need to drive the ball down into the ground when bending the elbow you should think of it like landing a plane. At no point are you ever driving the ball down into the ground, and definitely not locking the elbow it will blow out the elbow. Last you don’t at any point rip up at the end 😂😂😂 if you bend the elbow on the way down “entering the dead zone” that will put your hand under the ball. Then the thumb exiting the ball first will allow your fingers to wrap around the ball. So the goal is to bend the elbow the more bend the higher the revs entering the dead zone. Having your have “elbow” and hand with inside positioning. Existing the ball thumb first fingers wrapping around the ball on release. Smh simple “please don’t hurt anyone”” else that is

[@baldbrothersbowling]

I replied to another comment that I assume is associated with you as they referenced your podcast. I tried to copy and paste it here, but that didn't work on my phone, so hopefully you will just read that one. Please know that I try to explain things to people who can't seem to get typical instruction to work. I will be trying to add disclaimers to this video when I get back, and if I can't figure that out, I will create a second video to clarify some things so nobody hurts themselves. I mentioned in the other comment that I am okay with you reviewing and correcting things in my video on your podcast. I am all for all instruction, even at the expense of my own. I only ask that you critique the video without it being a direct attack on my. I do coach and help a lot people. I see the fault in this one, and just hope you don't disctedit me directly.

[@jerrylindner5431]

Better lighting please

[@baldbrothersbowling]

With more views and subscribers I can eventually afford lighting. It is on my list. I adjust in post production (believe it or not it's even darker originally) but I can only adjust so much before quality drops significantly. Bear with us, and the lighting will eventually improve. Thank you for watching.