Breaking in a Predator motor

[@stevoj8959]

I did not realize the benefit of using regular oil for break in. Good call. Stevo

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

Synthetic oil is Wonderful stuff but it's too slick to break an engine in.

[@almclean4835]

Proper job Bill👏👏

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

Thanks Al. I am pretty picky about breaking them in, even if it means a couple dozen miles at 10 miles an hour 🤨 🤣

[@ricomckennie1757]

Just now liked and subscribed to your channel i plan on getting the 120 dollar engine from harbor freight soon and doing a little project with it. I’ve watched tons of videos on properly breaking in an engine because i dont want to ruin mine when i get it

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

@ricomckennie1757 Thanks, I always like getting more subs. 😁 Follow the video for break-in and check the oil every once in a while(I check every 10 hours or so) when you are using it, and it will last years and years. 👍

[@fixitorstripitGardenmachines]

Great video and spot on.

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

Thanks! 🙂

[@dhatboiidanny]

I’ve used predators a lot on different projects all still run great. I normally buy 10-40 non synthetic run it calmly then once it’s warm beat on it for an entire tank of fuel. Or 2 tanks then drain it refill it with my synthetic oil of choice and just do regular oil changes from there and they last forever.

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

I like 10-30 and a bench break-in, but your way would work to. 👍

[@VintageEngineRepairs]

Good job and tip re mineral based oils for break in!

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

Good point. I could have gone that way, but this time, I went with the mfgr recommended oil.

[@barryewalt3250]

Great vid Bill, and good info on the break in oil, but please listen to your wife and get a helmet!!!🤣🤣

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

Thanks. With the stock gears I am safe enough, I am gonna do one on gearing since I will need the parts anyway for motor changes... then it's fine for a helmet 😁

[@barryewalt3250]

@@GuysPlayingWithTools LOL!!!

[@haneyoakie14]

Break in your engine or break your new engine, the choice is yours.

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

That's a perfect way to explain it. I wish I thought of that before I did the video.

[@BensWorkshop]

Good work and useful to show.

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

Thanks. 🙂

[@kusinx800]

when you turned the choke did you turn it from “start” then started it, and moved it to “run” before giving throttle?

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

Yes. When it's cold, it needs a bit of choke to start, and with a stock carb, you *usually* have to slowly ease off the choke after starting. Once they have a few hours on them, you can usually choke it, start it, and turn off the choke all at once.

[@DIYVariety]

All broke 9n now look out for bill coming in on the outside lol oh no bill rolled it thinking hes 16 again and broke is arm lol great job bill i enjoying this series.

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

In one coming up I am pulling the jack shaft, it will change the gearing and increase the top end a LOT. My wife says I need a helmet for that part

[@DIYVariety]

@@GuysPlayingWithTools lol but did your wife say that because she meant that you need it for saftey or because your crazy lol

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

@@DIYVariety Yes. 🤣

[@bigsonslawncare]

🤭🤣👏🏽

[@MyGreenLawn2019]

looks like your panning for gold! lol

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

LOL

[@pstoneking3418]

I agree with this breakin except the first 15 minutes I also have my grandson drive it. I adjust the throttle so half throttle is the most he can get. Drain and refill and drive it again for almost an hour. Then drain and fill with mobile one synthetic oil.

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

That works! I prefer a nice steady rpm for the first half hour, but that's just me being way too picky. 🙂

[@iceeey7684]

Synthetic 1030 will work right?

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

Perfect for the daily oil but not for the break-in process. You will want to use regular 10-30 for that.

[@AdrianGarcia-tz1yx]

How much times do I have to change the oil when break in ?

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

I usually do 2 runs with standard 10/30, and each run is 1/2 hour at 2000 RPM(no load). The accepted practice is 1 run, but 2 runs give me the confidence that everything is settled into place and I have cleared out all the shavings that may be created during the first moments of a motors life. After that, synthetic all the way for the rest of its life. 👍

[@AdrianGarcia-tz1yx]

@@GuysPlayingWithTools thank you

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

@AdrianGarcia-tz1yx It gets boring and might drive the neighbors crazy, but it's worth it to know it's starting life right.

[@Rico-vms]

Any recommendations on how to break in a predator 670 buy one at harbor freight for my walk behind stump grinder ??

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

I use the same procedure for all the small engines, and they seem to last forever. 1/2 hour with regular 10w30, oil change, 45 minutes with regular 10w30, oil change to 10w30 synthetic and go. 👍

[@Rico-vms]

@@GuysPlayingWithTools thanks I just went and picked it up, open box got it for 480 plus 2 year warranty, nothing wrong with the motor at all not even gas or oil ran through it, guess it didn’t fit for what the other guy wanted it great deal and thanks for the info now I gotta see how to mount it wire it all up. Hopefully this engine runs strong

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

@Rico-vms Make sure you bolt it to something for the break in, it can get pretty boring when you are babysitting a running motor so it doesn't run out into the street. 🤣

[@Rico-vms]

@@GuysPlayingWithTools yes sir thank you what oil do you recommend I use brand I trust your word, for my kohler ch20 i used kohler oil but when it was low I’d use and auto parts brand.

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

​@@Rico-vms That's a tricky question, a dozen people will give you a dozen different answers for oil. For ALL small engines, they leave here with Quaker State 10w30 synthetic. For break in oil I use Quaker state non-synthetic 10w30, you don't want synthetic oil in a motor while you are breaking it in, it takes too long to break in and that means it runs longer with the assorted material that comes off during the break in process. (that's also why we change the oil half way through the process)

[@Deucealive75]

Wow. I do everything opposite of what you are doing here. Only thing similar is the initial oil changes.

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

There are a lot of ways to break in a motor. This has worked really well for me for years, but I am always open to how other people do it. I might pick up a new trick or 2. 👍

[@evanr1248]

When i turn mine on it goes full rev and spins the tire. the choke is closed and when it opens it dies. Then when i open the throttle it theres no change

[@evanr1248]

Got any tips?

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

How long has it been sitting? If it's got old gas or has been sitting, it's a different answer than if everything is new.

[@evanr1248]

@@GuysPlayingWithTools brand new motor and gas, I installed a header and air filter

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

@@evanr1248 That explains it. The stock Predator carb jets are .028, it's super lean right out of the box. When you added more air and a way for the air to get out faster, it leaned out even more. The good news is, it's a super easy fix, re-jet the carb to .036 and add a bigger emulsifier. This will settle down to issues it has cold and add a *TON* of power at the same time. Here is a link to a video doing exactly that, and a link to the jets I use in all of them(the kit comes with 2 jets, the .036 is plenty, don't use the bigger one) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqLbe4OVp82hbM0 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08S7L3HK9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@ParaisoSensorial]

Excellent video. New friend here.🔔 You have a fantastic channel. Have a good weekend. 💚20

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

Thanks, I always like making new friends 🙂

[@nicmuir8151]

Would I mess it up if I use synthetic oil?

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

You don't want to use synthetic for the break-in. It would increase the break in period by hours, which means a longer amount of time where the little bits of metal are circulating in the motor. If you did a break-in with synthetic, no worries, just do it again with conventional oil, and you will be perfectly good. 👍

[@nicmuir8151]

@@GuysPlayingWithTools thanks, appreciate the help!😁

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

👍

[@Stouts_simple_maintance]

You used non synthetic to break it in right?

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

@FTH_sway Yes. That's important. Synthetic oil takes too long, and that means little flakes of metal may be in the oil with the motor running longer than needed

[@haneyoakie14]

Extra education! For free!

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

In a lot of videos I say "Subscribe, it FREE!" LOL

[@chrisMengland]

When you checked the oil you're not suppose to twist the dipstick in.

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

Yeah, I catch myself doing it all the time. 🙄🤣

[@josh.miller]

Buy 1 quart 10W-30 Real Oil (for break-in) + Synthetic 10W-30 (for normal use) Drain oil add half quart of the real oil run 10 minutes @ light load, drain oil add rest of real oil run 30 mins @ half load, drain oil add synthetic, engine good to go

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

That's pretty close to what I do outside the timing. I like to let them run a little longer between changes(my neighbors aren't real fond of the longer break in times 🤣)

[@josh.miller]

@@GuysPlayingWithTools Did it today and I'm confident in this method. Makes sense and a lot shorter than the recommended 3 HOUR break in from Harbor Freight, and appears even safer considering that there is less time for the initial metal to circulate around the place. Thank you so much for making this video. Using this to attach a 3 GPM 3300 PSI Yamatic pressure washer pump.

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

@josh.miller My thoughts exactly. 2 oil changes in the break in gets the whatnot that happens in the first few minutes out of the way. Next week, I am doing a couple of "cheap performance upgrades" videos for the 212

[@josh.miller]

@@GuysPlayingWithTools Subbed with notifications cause I wanna see that! Thanks man

[@n.b.p.davenport7066]

8 hours on your first break in

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

I don't like to have the first oil in it that long. 90% of the break in happens in the first 5 minutes

[@gwkdad]

TERRIBLE cart design to put centerline of motor over frame rail to impede draining dirty oil....

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

I agree 101%. That was pretty common(and annoying in the 90's and early 2000's). It's another case of the engineers not considering the end user.