BREAKING: Major Junior-NCAA Hockey Rule Change | Full Breakdown

[@CM-ef2hd]

This is going to destroy Canadian college hockey more than junior hockey.

[@ahadvising8]

It’ll definitely make an impact

[@thartley16]

Barely impacts Usports. It's just full of old CHLers that didn't make it in pro. It will cause the CHL to be more of a Pit stop league. Players can now freely bounce from Jr A to Major Junior without it affecting their college opportunites.

[@thartley16]

Chilliwack Chiefs (BCHL JR A) already lost 4 players to major junior right after that rule change. Why? Because they can now move into a better league without losing their college opportunities. Only reason they are playing tier 2 junior is because it keeps your college door open. If your going CHL your top tier in your age group. Now we might see kids choose to go elsewhere

[@ahadvising8]

Agreed

[@usa1980miracle]

People need to remember the Major Junior players need to have the grades and an ACT score to be eligible for D1 hockey.

[@ahadvising8]

💯

[@ericlin9394]

@@ahadvising8😂gpa 3.86 is hard for D1

[@josephpotter7776]

An 18 on the ACT with a 2.0 gpa is all you need to be eligible to play as a freshman at D1. A lotta schools will even bring in kids with grades worse than that. I know this as I was recruited to play soccer

[@MbisonBalrog]

This be great for UVT, Canisius, Niagara cuz campuses are very close to GTA and Montreal. Mercyhurst, RIT not far either with ferries. Clarkson St Lawrence too

[@mastertuc1]

This is a great video! As some one who doesn’t really follow jr hockey but likes to watch ncaa, this is super informative!

[@ahadvising8]

Glad you found it useful!

[@jyleet]

Great summary, Braeden. Hope that you are well!

[@ahadvising8]

Thank you

[@No_Fear_33]

CHL needs to make one major change.... do not expire the Education package if the player chooses to try European Pro or ECHL/AHL instead of school. Bottom line is Education is the priority. The minute you commit to NCAA D1-3, thats when you forfeit your CDN Education package. /full stop

[@zkiiffs9]

Agreed, but I doubt it’s gonna happen

[@WayneMcFarlane-w4j]

Maybe CHL team can start paying for university courses while the player is playing for the CHL team. Example, a player who is on the Ottawa 67's will have the team pay for his courses at Carlton University or University of Ottawa.

[@mikeklein1779]

​@WayneMcFarlane-w4j I'm pretty sure they already do, but the time commitment for a CHL team prevents full-time enrollment

[@WayneMcFarlane-w4j]

@@mikeklein1779 OK, the players could take a course a semester and more courses during the off season.

[@ahadvising8]

Interesting.

[@CElliottWes20]

Great video. Like you said: Time will tell, however, I think we will start to see more USports commitments from CJHL than we have seen previously. We all assume that kids are going to choose Low end D1 and D3 teams over USports but NCAA is extremely expensive for Canadians who don't get full-rides and D3 does not offer any athletic bursaries. Additionally, many Canadians don't want to write their SAT/ACTs and go through the process to become NCAA eligible. I can see the GOJHL only getting stronger from this as well. Currently it loses many players to the BCHL, AJHL, and OJHL but it is the main feeder league to many OHL teams and the partnerships are already formed. The trickle down could be great for this league as it can become a great feeder to Major Junior and heavily recruited for USports/D3.

[@ahadvising8]

Potentially, this is an interesting view on things.

[@tguerin5]

This means nothing to 98% of all young hockey players that will never play after high school or Junior level hockey

[@bamesbamesbames]

I hope this is the wake up call USports needs.

[@mhudson31]

Leagues that will get better with a trickle down effect: Major Junior, NCAA Div 1, NCAA Div 2/3, ACHA Leagues that will get worse with a trickle up effect: USports, ACAC, BCIHL, USHL, BCHL, Junior A/Tier 2, Junior B/Tier 3, Prep, U18 AAA

[@MbisonBalrog]

Why go D2/3 instead USports? D2/3 is not free ride. USports will be still. Unless Hockey CAN agrees pay for D2/3.

[@mhudson31]

@ I’m not saying it’s better to go D2/D3, I’m just saying it will get better from what it was while USports will get worse compared to what it was. I still think USports will be better, but the gap in skill between USports and D2/D3 will be smaller than what it was

[@ahadvising8]

agreed that the collegiate leagues will most likely get stronger, and some JR leagues will take a hit, such as the BCHL as it’s going to lose players to the CHL. However, the USHL should remain a competitive D1 feeder along with the CHL.

[@ahadvising8]

While Usports will stay a solid league, the collegiate D3 level will also improve making them both good options depending on a players specific situation.

[@williamkennedy93]

The decision had absolutely nothing to do with Canadian hockey. NCAA got railed by the U.S. Supreme Court. This is a secondary effect of tv money driving ncaa football into a billion dollar business

[@johnburns5860]

this absolutely destroys opportunities for kids who are high school seniors this year and were looking at moving to Tier 2 before going to college. They're just getting screwed. The "new" programs won't come around yet and the existing programs will look to the CHL for their players. If you're a high level but not elite kid in USAHockey 18U AAA program right now, this makes it really really hard.

[@ahadvising8]

Definitely agree with you. A lot of those high-level players who aren't quite elite will either go to NCAA D3 (but probably won't want to yet) or strong Junior A leagues before going to CHL like BCHL or USHL.

[@MbisonBalrog]

Facilities under D1 are not that great. They are likely on par with USports. I cannot imagine Canadiens who cannot get D1 would opt to go D3. Plus D3 is never free. There is no scholarships. If Major Junior still pays then it will be for USports only, and players can only get free education there.

[@thartley16]

Lol what. Usports is weak as fuck

[@WayneMcFarlane-w4j]

Can a OHL player who just finished high school at age 18 get out of his contract to go play NCAA hockey?

[@ahadvising8]

I believe so however not recommended. Maximize your hockey by playing all of your Junior, gain all the necessary experience before moving up.

[@WayneMcFarlane-w4j]

@@ahadvising8 Some 18 year olds may want to play high level hockey and get an education at the same time.

[@ahadvising8]

They still can after their Jr. Chances are that NCAA programs will recruit 20 year old veterans after their MJ career.

[@tomasonderco7324]

@@WayneMcFarlane-w4jup until now ncaa players played from the ages of 17-19 JR A and then ncaa so if he is good enough then he can play ncaa but it probably is not likely

[@MbisonBalrog]

Think more colleges will add hockey. UDub, Col, Utah, maybe even UCLA, USC will add. UNLV has a decent team in lower levels. May as well jump.

[@mikeklein1779]

If that happens, it will be more a function of Title IX changes than the availability of CHL players. Look at what happened with Illinois. Even before NIL came into effect, they didn't have the money to get off the ground. The required startup money is now even greater.

[@ahadvising8]

Agreed.

[@cglasford1]

@@mikeklein1779 don't hold me to this but I heard that there is either a lawsuit or something in the works that will impact or abolish title IX, but it would be way cooler if when they add a hockey program, they just add mens and womens at the same time.

[@mikeklein1779]

@@cglasford1 I've heard there's one that will impact Title IX, but not in any way that will make it easier to add a sport. Even if it would, it would still come down to money. You would need an obscenely wealthy person with ties to the school, a love for hockey, and a boatload of cash to give away to start a team. Double if adding men's and women's teams.

[@cglasford1]

@ how did schools like ASU, Penn State and Augustana all make the jump from ACHA? Just some rich dude built them a rink?

[@Birdthathasinternet]

How many commitments would the BCHL and NAHL have

[@ahadvising8]

Hard to predict at this time

[@TheSensation19]

What happens for US players who need a gap year? Can they go play in the CHL?

[@ahadvising8]

Yes.

[@blairkerr7911]

How will if affect SPhl and Fphl?

[@mikeklein1779]

@blairkerr7911 it won't. Those leagues are the end of the line.

[@ahadvising8]

Not sure these leagues will even be affected at all.

[@MbisonBalrog]

Good now NHL rookies will be bigger more fit muscular.

[@phlfly10]

Does it feel like US players will have fewer opportunities that is kind of killing the USA hockey program. Canada has more ice sheets per capital population and AAA is alamsot every town, cost is double less. Horrible decision for USA born players. It does feels like Canadian made a decision that is in USA hockey. This current administration made every effort to destroy American dream. NCAA is all about money from ESPN broadcast

[@No_Fear_33]

High CHL draft picks born from the USA will start showing up to CHL camps now and take up CDN born spots away. Its a win/win or lose/lose no matter where you are from

[@edwardfollen5914]

Totally agree from my perspective.

[@MbisonBalrog]

CAN has lower pop but hockey is still very expensive cutting out many people. America larger population.

[@phlfly10]

​@@MbisonBalrogwell let.compare AA 12 K to 15 K, AAA 25K . That is included travel, fees l, extra proctice for skate once a week, equipment like stick 200 bucks avg .

[@MbisonBalrog]

@@phlfly10 America more rich people

[@mdubrey]

Tier 3 junior players, EHL USPHL, pay attention.

[@MbisonBalrog]

Why?

[@kihockey5099]

Who’s will play Usports now?

[@MbisonBalrog]

Junior A players

[@kihockey5099]

@ yeah that’s what I thought, I was asking him though because he says Jr A will mainly be D3

[@ahadvising8]

Jr.A players, there will also still be a certain amount of CHL players that will still go U-Sports.

[@briansmithmortgages]

Do you think D3 schools will start to offer some scholarship money

[@realalbertan]

D3 doesn't do any scholarships in any sport

[@ahadvising8]

It’s hard to tell at the moment.

[@cglasford1]

I don’t believe they are allowed to. They do offer a fair amount of “academic “ scholarships to athletes and leadership scholarships

[@maximite]

@@briansmithmortgages most division 3 schools are too small to offer athletic scholarships. Some have a student population under 1000. Not offering athletic scholarships allows more parity.

[@edwardfollen5914]

Do we think that more U.S. born players will end up attending Canadian Schools and play USports?

[@ahadvising8]

Only time will tell.

[@mikeklein1779]

Sorry, but this won't lead to more NCAA D1 programs. The amount of high end players available has nothing to do with this. Look at Illinois: they could have fielded a good team just with in-state players. All they needed was $30 to 40 million to get the team off the ground. How hard could that be?

[@maximite]

Are you referring to U of I in Champaign? They needed a new arena and could agree to where it would be build and would not get State money to build it

[@mikeklein1779]

@maximite that's the one. The bottom line is that they needed money but couldn't get it. There was no Terry Pegula or Don Mullett who was willing to throw enough money at the school to make the team a reality. In the end, that's all that mattered.

[@KevinFitzgerald-pi7et]

It might actually some teams are definitely ready to make the jump

[@mikeklein1779]

@KevinFitzgerald-pi7et after seeing Illinois, Oakland University, SUNY Binghamton, Navy, Rhode Island, and UNLV all try and fail, I'm very skeptical. Please elaborate

[@Dranehc]

In my opinion NCAA Div 1 is the big winner as it stands unless Major Junior leagues come up with some rule to keep their 18 and 19 years old in the leagues. If they don't Major Junior might become more or less a U18 league. Sure they'll take away from Junior A leagues the best 16 and 17 years old that previously played Junior A to keep NCAA eligibility, however I can see most players even top end, going NCAA at 18 after they complete high school. What about the scholarship money Major Junior players receive? Will it apply for NCAA schools?? Or only Canadian schools? That could mean NCAA teams won't need to give full ride as Major Junior teams would pay for players to play NCAA. Doesn't make much sense to me. CHL leagues win in terms of getting the best of the younger talent, but they also may be losers by losing that talent quickly to NCAA. They might just become a stepping stone to NCAA and therefore losing the battle to NCAA in terms of direct promotion to pros including NHL. USHL will still be stong in my opinion but will need to adjust to align with CHL leagues. Fewer Canadians will go USHL now i think. The big losers are all the Tier 2 (USA) and Junior A leagues (Canada). They will lose top end players that in the past would have played there to retain NCAA eligibility. Don't count on late bloomers to go play Major Junior at 18, or 19 after playing Junior A...Major Junior will focus even more so on getting 16 and 17 years old, not that they didn't before. Overall in my opinion I'm not sure this is the best move for all players as claimed. Instead of having 2 streams which allowed more players to play and showcase at relevant levels to pursue hockey (Major Junior, and Junior A), there will now be just one stream (Major Junior) for to end players to pursue making Junior A less relevant. Furthermore unless CHL makes a rule to keep their 18, 19, and even 20 years old players, the focus will be even more so only on very young top end players. This will negatively affect the guys that develop a bit later at 19 or 20.

[@MbisonBalrog]

Tier 2 leagues in CAN lose out but NAHL, NCDC are for Americans who can’t make USHL. I don’t picture Americans picking Major Juniors over USHL. CAN too cold.

[@Dranehc]

There is already 9 American teams in Canadian Major Junior leagues, which is more than half the number of USHL teams. As for to cold in Canada, the USHL is all based in the northern Mid West and Central USA...very cold winters there.

[@MbisonBalrog]

@ not as bad as Prince Albert, Prince George, Val Dor, Rouyn Noranda, Baie Comeau et etc

[@ahadvising8]

Thanks for your thoughts, this is very interesting and agree with a lot of what you said. Regarding the scholarship funds that is hard to say at this time.

[@ahadvising8]

Haha 😆 good point on the cold. However, some Americans will choose Can. I do agree that most of them will still probably choose the NAHL therefore it will remain somewhat competitive.

[@TheSensation19]

What about all those gap year kids? No more BCHL or USHL? Just go straight to CHL? Really hurts the American players.

[@MbisonBalrog]

Why hurt American players?

[@ahadvising8]

Hard to say at the moment.

[@Dranehc]

Why is hockey Canada now allowing players from rogue leagues (BCHL) to join CHL teams (sanctioned hockey)? This should not be allowed. Their own rules on unsanctioned hockey should be the same across the board including for Major Junior. Hockey Canada is very bias toward Major Junior and this strengthen the BCHL stance that Hockey Canada does not care about Junior A in the country.

[@dougcameron2602]

Hockey Canada does not control the CHL, it's just under their umbrella.

[@ahadvising8]

There are rules in place for them to return.

[@lignitecole]

What are the chances the USHL joins the CHL as a 4th league?

[@ahadvising8]

Definitely worth speculating about, might happen, only time will tell!

[@MbisonBalrog]

NAHL should be 5th since is on par with QMJHL and weaker teams in CHL.

[@dougcameron2602]

Very likely! Or risking the USHL will becoming obsolete.

[@MbisonBalrog]

Im still not convinced Major Juniors is better than USHL/NAHL. I want to see some head to head matchups on a yearly basis for a few years to determine this.

[@mikeklein1779]

USHL maybe, NAHL no way

[@dougcameron2602]

Once the top USHL players leave it will be weaker than the CHL. The USHL needs to join the CHL.

[@maximite]

In the world juniors Team Canada and Team USA are made up of players from the CHL and NCAA. How many players from the USHL play on team Canada or team USA? Zero. CHL is way better than USHL . Any top player in USHL would be in the NCAA at 18.

[@maximite]

@MbisonBalrog The CHL and USNDTP (best US players under 18.. who beat NCAA teams!!) are having an exhibition series with the CHL U18 this year and the coming years. Players from the USNTDP go straight to NCAA.. they're too good for USHL so it only makes sense CHL is better than USHL. CHL vs NCAA that's a topic that can be debated

[@MbisonBalrog]

@@maximite NCAA has players as old as 24