Breaking Physics Using Math

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@MAKiTHappen
@MAKiTHappen 2 ай бұрын
Okay, considering how many comments about this I've gotten... YES, 1/0 is undefined, HOWEVER, in both cases in this video we're talking about 1/0 from the positive side, which is approaching infinity, that's why right here 06:13 I said "Kind of infinity", and right here 13:16, I've added an equation which specifies this even more.
@cheetosnour.scratch-learn
@cheetosnour.scratch-learn 2 ай бұрын
1/0 = +-inf
@En_theo
@En_theo 2 ай бұрын
I have a different way to identify mass : if it does not travel in a straight line and does not have the speed of light, then it is massive. I consider our atoms as made of particles constantly bouncing(=changing direction) which creates the illusion that atoms don't move, but the inside is still moving at the speed of light but not in a straight line anymore.
@samuelyigzaw
@samuelyigzaw 2 ай бұрын
Whoever told you that is a liar. Please stick to the original truth and don't fall for their lies. 1/0 is unsigned infinity. It's evident in projective geometry and the Riemann Sphere. Anyone who tells you it's undefined probably thinks irrational numbers and imaginary numbers don't exist either.
@hi-i-am-atan
@hi-i-am-atan 2 ай бұрын
@@samuelyigzaw what you're tripping over is that 1/0 is _defined_ as unsigned infinity _by_ projective geometry and the riemann sphere, therefore when using those models it is no longer undefined. this does not suddenly mean that 1/0 is _always_ unsigned infinity, however, because ... well, different types of math can define 1/0 to be something else, such as 0 in linear algebra or positive infinity when using the extended real positive number line, or they can just leave it undefined. which most do. so, from both the perspective of conventional majority and universal definition, 1/0 lacks any definitive definition. it could perhaps be more actually described as _variably_ defined, but a lack of definition is generally conceptualized as an empty space in which a definition can be inserted into, so the difference is p. miniscule anyhow ( plus, "variably defined" technically goes for _all_ numbers, so ) also, you seem to be under the impression that numbers cannot exist unless they exist universally, and thus things like irrational and imaginary numbers _must_ be included in every set of all numbers. but believing that would mean you are _denying_ their existence as proven by basic fields of math, which lack the ability to define 'em. and the thing is, there's nothing stopping more advanced fields from excising them, either, should they serve no purpose within them. hell, it would mean denying even the existence of _all_ conventional numbers, even _positive integers,_ as math is not beholden to working with them and can and _will_ define whatever nonsense it needs to to model the logic it seeks. that's why imaginary numbers exist in the first place, even y'shouldn't think of more advanced fields of mathematics as being more and more "correct" than their predecessors, as placing the fields on such a linear scale is as massive misrepresentation of how they exist among each other to begin with. rather, each field represents a different way of looking at and defining numbers and how they operate, with the more basic ones being just as valid as the most complex. after all, when you're just dealing with quantities of discrete objects, something that's part of _everyone's_ daily life? all the effort going into defining 1/0 as unsigned infinity is suddenly just cruft that might've just redefined numbers to something useless, because how does distributing an apple among nobody suddenly cause infinite apples?
@randomguy2210
@randomguy2210 2 ай бұрын
1/0 is literally the opposite of 0, how is it undefined?! if 0 is no quantity then 1/0 is ALL quantity (then both are not defined numbers like how can the opposite of a number not be a number lol) ofc 0/0 is all quantitIES... there is no need to write a book about it if im wrong correct me
@Verxinn
@Verxinn 2 ай бұрын
Plugging extreme values in physics equations feels the same as making impossible scenarios in chess
@hercules71185
@hercules71185 2 ай бұрын
But having 3 queens, 7 knights and 5 bishops really does create fun checkmates
@VuNam_MCVN
@VuNam_MCVN 2 ай бұрын
fairy chess
@tiranus5861
@tiranus5861 2 ай бұрын
The top comment will dictate the next equation, legal or not
@brinleyhamer729
@brinleyhamer729 2 ай бұрын
@@tiranus5861 9/90/78(204*3209)/65456/0
@cerulity32k
@cerulity32k 2 ай бұрын
bishop to p24
@valuerie
@valuerie 2 ай бұрын
"We're not here to be *reasonable*, we're here to do **MATH**" FINALLY SOMEONE GETS ME
@mihailmilev9909
@mihailmilev9909 2 ай бұрын
same lol
@mihailmilev9909
@mihailmilev9909 2 ай бұрын
kinda(()*())
@yunzhetee1132
@yunzhetee1132 Ай бұрын
Amazing philosophy
@tanatos691449450
@tanatos691449450 Ай бұрын
I went here to write the same thing xD
@slowpnir
@slowpnir 2 ай бұрын
Negative mass is funny, because it is at negative temperature, and when meeting normal mass, it tries to reach equilibruim. But since the correct order of temp is [0 K, ..., +INF K = -INF K, -0 K], both objects will try to accelerate to infinity.
@MAKiTHappen
@MAKiTHappen 2 ай бұрын
I wish I thought of that when making the video because this is way more interesting than collision
@zombieregime
@zombieregime 2 ай бұрын
@@MAKiTHappen To be fair the large colliding object accelerating to chase the smaller one was pretty interesting. Maybe negative mass is more like, "Hey! You hit me! Cmeer you little shi...." as they go zooming off into the universe
@simonx760
@simonx760 2 ай бұрын
Heck, there's even a proposal of simple space drive using negative mass if it exist.
@The.Heart.Unceasing
@The.Heart.Unceasing Ай бұрын
@@MAKiTHappen it gets even better ! what happens when the negative mass object enters in contact with an object with exact opposite mass (I.e. a -1 mass objects encounter a +1 mass object) ? the mass cancels out ! and what happens to massless things in our universe when accelerated ? Bam ! It's instantly accelerated to the speed of light ^^
@kellymoses8566
@kellymoses8566 2 ай бұрын
From our perspective time is frozen for photons but from the photon's perspective Lorentz contraction causes the universe to be flattened to 2D so they have to travel 0 distance to reach anything.
@jondo7680
@jondo7680 2 ай бұрын
So Photons are flatlanders. And we always say flatlandersv can't imagine our world. Imagining the flat world of Photons and their speed is even harder.
@HJ28_398
@HJ28_398 2 ай бұрын
​@@9_1.1 The 2 dimensions the photons experience are perpendicular to their travel direction. If the universe were a stack of flat sheets, photons would perceive themselves travelling down all of the sheets of paper instantaneously and then getting annihalated.
@leonhardtkristensen4093
@leonhardtkristensen4093 2 ай бұрын
Are you really sure about that. I have done some calculations on this with time dilation and length contraction over the last few months. I wanted to know if Einstein's light clock also worked laying down. That means if the light beam is going parallel to the traveling direction in stead of perpendicular to it. I found that it does work but only gave the same results if length contraction also was taken into consideration. That means that the traveling object get's shorter with speed and becomes 2D at the speed of light c. That should mean that the photons are 2D as they are the traveling ones and at speed c. It also means that time dilation and length contraction is real for any body traveling. It of cause also means that the time has stopped for the photon or moving vehicle as light will never move away from it's emitter. It will move away from it's emitting point at speed c but the emitter is moving with speed c in the same direction. Alternatively we have height extension. I think that would work mathematically too. I am of cause not sure about it but my calculations and thinking including making plotting points indicates that. Also if going reverse - that is looking at a stationary light clock setup from the moving vehicle's point of view but imagining to be stationary - then if making a plot on the inside of say the vehicle's window ( that is really moving) of the light movement on the really stationary light clock using the dilated time that one experiences, one would find that the stationary clock would go faster. From all this I find that things are really not relative and that there must be a zero speed. By using both time dilation and length contraction one could measure the speed of light measuring the time it takes light to travel from one end of a rod with a mirror at the end and back again in any direction and at any speed between zero and c. It would give the same speed c every where. I would like your thought's about this.
@HJ28_398
@HJ28_398 2 ай бұрын
​@@leonhardtkristensen4093 Light moves away at lightspeed even from an object traveling in the same direction at the same speed (the reason it doesn't seem to make sense is simply because an object can't travel at the speed of light). The amount of space between the light and the object increases because the space becomes more dense, which is practically equivalent to the light moving away. Edit: Also, "light beams" don't really exist, they're the propagation of electromagnetic waves, which can't travel sideways. Think of a crashing water wave and tell it to move sideways while crashing forward (also pretend you have god powers and that a wave could or would somehow listen to you). Instead of sliding across the ocean, it'll just turn around and face the direction it's going.
@leonhardtkristensen4093
@leonhardtkristensen4093 2 ай бұрын
@@HJ28_398 I disagree. Things like red/blue shift proves my point and so does speed radar etc. Light has a set universal speed in vacuum.
@alejandroalzatesanchez
@alejandroalzatesanchez 2 ай бұрын
19:49 "But this is a video for another time" **Proceeds to publish the next video in the past**
@vlc-cosplayer
@vlc-cosplayer 2 ай бұрын
I think you can. Schedule a video for upload at a certain date, set it as private, and make it public after that date. 👀
@arandomspaceenthusiast7304
@arandomspaceenthusiast7304 2 ай бұрын
_i_ dollar foot long: Robbert Sponge: Sandwiches at an imaginary value? Patrick: Cities will burn.
@raynfall77_69
@raynfall77_69 2 ай бұрын
Travelling -i7 through time: Robert porifera "isosceles quadrilateral" trousers: Time taking on a negative imaginary value? William "Patrick Star" Fagerbakke: One questions if even god himself can withstand the horrors humanity has brought upon itsself. The day man can comprehend a second temporal dimension is the day the judgement will come for god cannot let his creation break. The fragile eggshell of reality and logic shall fall apart as the chick breaks through, only this time, there is no conceptual connection between the amniotic sac and the world outside of the egg. There are only unfathomable consequences.
@redmadness265
@redmadness265 2 ай бұрын
@@raynfall77_69 "Robert Porifera" xD
@Flesh_Wizard
@Flesh_Wizard 2 ай бұрын
Math has fallen, billions must calculate
@raynfall77_69
@raynfall77_69 2 ай бұрын
@@Flesh_Wizard Based and logicpilled. You will always be a gemerald
@Gabriel-rg7cy
@Gabriel-rg7cy 2 ай бұрын
Oh, Travel in time in the Imaginary dimensions could be going to alternative timelines, nice
@atismoke
@atismoke 2 ай бұрын
Not only did math break physics, it broke my brain as well
@vlc-cosplayer
@vlc-cosplayer 2 ай бұрын
Good thing physics isn't real (it's just a model of reality that progressively gets more accurate)
@Frddy_-sh8so
@Frddy_-sh8so 2 ай бұрын
8:28 time would move sideways
@pinniporker
@pinniporker 2 ай бұрын
would the youtube player have to have two axis
@hongkonger885
@hongkonger885 2 ай бұрын
For me I think it as moving through many timelines, which yeah it's weird
@BotturasStudios
@BotturasStudios 2 ай бұрын
4d world?
@devrim-oguz
@devrim-oguz 2 ай бұрын
That’s how I interpret it; you go back in time but travel to another alternate universe
@shabadrandhawa3829
@shabadrandhawa3829 2 ай бұрын
@@devrim-oguz 5d chess with multiverse time travel referenced
@KimYoungUn69
@KimYoungUn69 2 ай бұрын
Monday I will drive with -100 km/h to my work
@MAKiTHappen
@MAKiTHappen 2 ай бұрын
Gain some imaginary mass and you'll be able to go there on a tuesday
@VuNam_MCVN
@VuNam_MCVN 2 ай бұрын
no vector? Sir, I think your car is broken
@RTOmega
@RTOmega 2 ай бұрын
@@MAKiTHappen finally, a way to sleep till 10AM and arrive at work at 7AM.
@JuicyBurger29
@JuicyBurger29 2 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@MAKiTHappenman once I went Superluminal when I first got my car when I was 4000 years old. And then my Mother got angry at me for speeding :/
@Zulgeteb
@Zulgeteb 2 ай бұрын
Dont forget to expand your fuel tank to prevent it from overflowing.
@kellymoses8566
@kellymoses8566 2 ай бұрын
Greg Egan wrote the Orthogonal (series) where the metric signature is (+,+,+,+) instead of (−, +, +, +) like our universe. This has PROFOUND implications on every area of physics. There is no upper limit on velocity and you can actually go back in time if you travel fast enough. Time dilation is reversed so that time travels FASTER for fast moving objects.
@MAKiTHappen
@MAKiTHappen 2 ай бұрын
I'll have to look into that because that sounds really interesting
@kellymoses8566
@kellymoses8566 2 ай бұрын
@@MAKiTHappen All 3 books are VERY interesting. The final book does a much better job with consistent time loops than TENET did. He also wrote Dichronauts where the metric signature is (-,-,+,+) and that is REALLY weird. For example you can't do complete rotations and there are directions light can't travel.
@SJrad
@SJrad 2 ай бұрын
Integer overflowing time
@noneofyourbusiness4133
@noneofyourbusiness4133 2 ай бұрын
What is a metric signature?
@DemoneX1704
@DemoneX1704 2 ай бұрын
@@MAKiTHappen Greg Egan has a website where he explain the equations (in where he modified something) of each of their novels
@MarshmallowRadiation
@MarshmallowRadiation 2 ай бұрын
The point about gravitational potential energy going to infinity as you approach the center of mass being okay brings up an interesting point about black holes. As you said, for a normal object the infinity that pops out doesn't really matter, because as you go inside the object, the parts of the object that you pass through end up canceling out. But in a black hole, specifically a model black hole where the density inside the black hole is allowed to go to infinity (it can't in reality, of course, but we don't know exactly why yet because we can't exactly look), _all_ of the mass would be concentrated at the exact point of the center of mass. And so if you have two black holes colliding, then the energy of those two singularities coming together _would_ be infinite. Of course, we don't see anything close to that, because all of that mathematically infinite energy is trapped behind the event horizon and can never ever escape, and it's probably not how it really works anyway, but hey it _is_ potentially closer to reality than this video makes it seem. Still impossible though.
@MAKiTHappen
@MAKiTHappen 2 ай бұрын
That's the problem with black holes and why there are so many theories about how they work. Having a point where all mass is concentrated leads to a lot of problems (infinite density, infinite gravity so on) and that's why we basically have no idea what happens inside of black holes
@tobyhardcastle6830
@tobyhardcastle6830 2 ай бұрын
Also for external observers, the mass isn't concentrated at the centre (since it would take infinite time to get to the centre of a black hole). Rather spread over the event horizon, so we definitely shouldn't see infinite energy!
@janthran
@janthran 2 ай бұрын
all of that energy is getting sent into the future and when the Black Hole Era begins we'll all understand
@devrim-oguz
@devrim-oguz 2 ай бұрын
Photos that have a negative wavelength being the same would actually make sense. Since in Feynman diagrams, you can interpret it as either going back in time or forward in time and the photon just acts exactly the same.
@NXTangl
@NXTangl 2 ай бұрын
And matter with a negative wavelength is antimatter, for most purposes (Dirac sea argument, CPT symmetry, etc.)
@29-vibhusingh74
@29-vibhusingh74 2 ай бұрын
The 3 times I feel good after watching 2 unskippable Ads. 1. Watching a makit video 2. kurzgesagt video 3. My favourite series murder drones. Great video BTW makit
@M_1024
@M_1024 2 ай бұрын
KZbin gods really gods me when I was trying to watch murder drones yesterday. There was a lot of ads.
@29-vibhusingh74
@29-vibhusingh74 2 ай бұрын
@@M_1024 you also a fan I am too my man. I love md and the finale was great
@vinniepeterss
@vinniepeterss 2 ай бұрын
😮😮
@JuicyBurger29
@JuicyBurger29 2 ай бұрын
@@29-vibhusingh74MURDER DRONES! YEEEAAAAAHHHH! Finale was PEAK, YOU CAN’T CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE! And yes, I honor things in my profile picture, and sometimes I honor things multiple times if it’s good enough… THREE HONORS OF MURDER DRONES IN MY PROFILE PICTURE MUAHAHAHA!
@29-vibhusingh74
@29-vibhusingh74 2 ай бұрын
@@JuicyBurger29 yooooo so cool
@h20dynamoisdawae37
@h20dynamoisdawae37 2 ай бұрын
“Imaginary mass” the jjk brainrot… i can feel it…
@mepphin
@mepphin 2 ай бұрын
I hate monkeys and i'm not even a sorcerer and i've never been to the zoo
@NoSignificantHarassment.
@NoSignificantHarassment. Ай бұрын
It's in my head
@bignerd3783
@bignerd3783 Ай бұрын
Domain expansion, permanent brain damage
@45hindi
@45hindi 2 ай бұрын
breaking physics with one of the things it's made of which is math is like breaking a cookie using cookie dough.
@landosllim4576
@landosllim4576 2 ай бұрын
“I used the stones to destroy the stones”
@flameendcyborgguy883
@flameendcyborgguy883 2 ай бұрын
Welcome to half of modern science mate...Russells Paradox? Ring any bell?
@tobyhardcastle6830
@tobyhardcastle6830 2 ай бұрын
Could be a subjective point about what "Physics" is, but it feels like breaking a cookie with a spatula
@alexdefoc6919
@alexdefoc6919 2 ай бұрын
7:23 Just as punishement for going at c, you get frozen in time. Bro laking :))
@hqTheToaster
@hqTheToaster 2 ай бұрын
Can you do 'Breaking Philosophy using Geometry and Group Theory' next? I'd love to see how a concept such as 'Supraenergy' breaks logic when plugged into the 'Platonic Concept' '''function'''. Thanks.
@Ethan-lx1vv
@Ethan-lx1vv 2 ай бұрын
I am trying to look it up, but I cannot find any mentions of "supraenergy" or "platonic concept function". Also, I wonder what you specifically entail when you say "Breaking philosophy using geometry and group theory". I kind of understand how group theory can be used for this purpose, but not geometry, at least not directly. Also I wonder about the discontinuity between you starting the comment with talking about breaking philosophy, and then jumping to more generally breaking logic itself. Are you able to provide sources for these concepts from reputable places? Also, can you clarify what you mean by these methods of breaking philosophy?
@hqTheToaster
@hqTheToaster 2 ай бұрын
@@Ethan-lx1vv It is an old video, but basically, I typed "Platonic concept function" in KZbin's Search Bar and found it. The video's tag past the equals sign is MsdlkUFQPM4
@slowpnir
@slowpnir 2 ай бұрын
13:13 Yep, the gravitational force _under_ the surface of the sphere (due to Gauss law) linearly approaches 0 at the center.
@jan-Sopija
@jan-Sopija 2 ай бұрын
"we're not here to be reasonable, we're here to do math" your so right and you should say that more
@copywrite9396
@copywrite9396 2 ай бұрын
Did you come up with the elevator analogy for relativity? I’ve never heard that before but that’s a phenomenal way of explaining it!
@MAKiTHappen
@MAKiTHappen 2 ай бұрын
I don't think I'm the first one to get this idea, but right as I thought of it I just knew I had to put that in the video
@slowpnir
@slowpnir 2 ай бұрын
18:23 The full formula is E^2 = (pc)^2 + (mc^2)^2 btw, do not forget the impulse, which becomes more and more relevant approaching c (and the single factor for massless stuff).
@MAKiTHappen
@MAKiTHappen 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I oversimplified a lot of relativity in this video mainly because I wanted it to just be a video about two different approaches to calculations, but I will try to be as accurate as possible in the relativity video
@Fritzadood
@Fritzadood 2 ай бұрын
Ngl when you said -iY i was sent into a 5 minute laughing fit trying to wrap my head around what going backwards in time on a different number line would even mean like i was a character at the end of a lovecraft book
@janthran
@janthran 2 ай бұрын
move into another plane of existence literally. we should definitely get an infinite amount of energy and try it out
@panjak323
@panjak323 2 ай бұрын
Physics exists independently of humans, we merely use math to describe it.
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 2 ай бұрын
Math exists independently of humans, we merely use symbols to describe it 😉
@Gabriel-rg7cy
@Gabriel-rg7cy 2 ай бұрын
Yep
@Gabriel-rg7cy
@Gabriel-rg7cy 2 ай бұрын
​@@feynstein1004 We kinda of invented math to describe things, it isn't a thing, more like an idiom. We just use it as a tool
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 2 ай бұрын
@@Gabriel-rg7cy What makes you say that? And in that vein, some more questions: does language exist? Do thoughts exist?
@zombieregime
@zombieregime 2 ай бұрын
@@feynstein1004 Think of it this way, "all words are made up, but an apple is still an apple. It is not an orange, or a plum. The concept of an apple, and how it is described, is a convenience to understand the nature of fruit as a whole. The fruit does not suddenly change state because you wanted to vegitable an orange to the square root of plum." This video, granted admitted it was being unreasonable, is mathing incorrectly. Which you can do, as maths is ultimately conceptual. Physics simply is. It always is. You cant physics wrong because physics will say "No", no matter how wrong you want to math at it. Math is a language. Physics is.
@nottheevil
@nottheevil 2 ай бұрын
Man this is brilliant. Finally I can see some of my "what if"s
@martinrosschou
@martinrosschou 2 ай бұрын
9:45 made me realize how the argument about how it is strange that we can not move in time as we chose, when we can move in space as we chose, is not correct. We can't move back in space, just like we can't move back in time.
@wren_.
@wren_. Ай бұрын
you can always walk backward
@martinrosschou
@martinrosschou 29 күн бұрын
@@wren_. walking backwards doesn't stop the Universe from moving. The place you were is for ever gone, no matter what direction you walk.
@benruniko
@benruniko 2 ай бұрын
Math breaks physics the same way the alphabet breaks logic. One is used to describe the other, but can also describe total nonsense.
@blacklistnr1
@blacklistnr1 2 ай бұрын
8:40 "-iY" since i is a 90° rotation (changing axis of travel) and time is part of 4d space-time, I guess that it means you're moving backwards in space which implies a negative acceleration which implies a negative force. So at that speed all forces would look inverted? i.e. rocketship blasting exhaust backwards to move.. backwards, pretty wild
@hello_person_wathing_beatSaber
@hello_person_wathing_beatSaber 2 ай бұрын
Another way to break physics is with meth
@Flesh_Wizard
@Flesh_Wizard 2 ай бұрын
Methematics
@bowfuz
@bowfuz 2 ай бұрын
Correcthin for ~7:00: the photon experiences *no* time, actually, not infinite time. From its own perspective, it starts and stops existing simultaneously. The rest of the *universe* chugs ahead at infinite speed from its prespective, not the other way around.
@glitchy9613
@glitchy9613 Ай бұрын
With regard to the 'imaginary time', this can be interpreted as turning a time into a distance. Time itself can be thought of as an imaginary distance (this is useful for relativity stuff like the minkowsi metric), so multiplying time by -i turns it back into a distance. Therefore, a hypothetical tachyon would have to swap the roles of space and time, which is quite interesting as the tachyon now percieves 3 temporal dimensions and 1 spatial dimension! That wouldn't mean the tachyon experiences 3 separate forms of 'times' at once, but that any of our space dimensions can act as a direction of time (this can also be interpreted as it only traveling in paths outside the lightcone).
@dicyanoacetylene6220
@dicyanoacetylene6220 2 ай бұрын
On the abstraction chart, math is the only thing to the left of relativistic quantum mechanics. There may be something between the two, but nothing is beyond math. It isn't abstracted to. Everything is abstracted from it.
@haruka2632
@haruka2632 Ай бұрын
9:45 negative 𝘝𝘦𝘭𝘰𝘤𝘪𝘵𝘺 is moving backward. Negative 𝘋𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦 is the confusing bit. You got it right, probably just a slip of the tongue but I feel like it could lead some people to confusion, idk
@penguincute3564
@penguincute3564 Ай бұрын
Negative velocity is not impossible. As velocity HAS direction. Negative distance is quite odd… since distance cannot be negative. You can’t move -5cm to the north. It’s just odd.
@ci.netproductions
@ci.netproductions 2 ай бұрын
7:31 (I’m a reality theorist and find this topic very intriguing) I like to think reality is 5 dimensional. 3 spatial dimensions, one for time, and one for alternate timelines. Using this, we can treat the 5th dimension as the imaginary axis, then proceed to say… “imaginary time is like shifting seamlessly through alternate universes/timelines, perpendicular to time itself” This would help describe the “unvisualizable” ideas you mentioned using this concept. If you decide to make a follow up video, it’d be cool to see what wild effects plugging in impossible values into these equations would bring up. To help visualize these, you could also exchange any of the spatial dimensions with time and/or the 5th (“imaginary time”) dimension, since I’ve also pondered that idea too.
@HJ28_398
@HJ28_398 2 ай бұрын
how could another reality be adjacent to ours? By that I mean, if we moved one over, what one specific thing would be different? Would it be only one, or is our adjacent reality completely arbitrary? Maybe a function of time makes it instantly not-adjacent and now whoever went there can never come back. Maybe they're not exactly adjacent, but some amount where nothing exists between them, maybe they mesh between those spaces?
@ci.netproductions
@ci.netproductions 2 ай бұрын
@@HJ28_398 the closer to our timeline, the closer it would match it. An adjacent reality would be ever so slightly different to our own, becoming increasingly similar as it gets arbitrarily closer to ours until it’s indistinguishable. Imagine this two dimensional time as a 90° triangle radiating out from the present time. These are all the possible timelines you can access from the present. All in the future. The past would have negative area, making it inaccessible, as its length is imaginary. All the timelines outside this triangle are so different from our universe, there’s no set of events from our present that would lead to that state of reality.
@bomblii
@bomblii 2 ай бұрын
tachyons are so cool i love tachyons
@Qefyan
@Qefyan 2 ай бұрын
22:08 as an engineer, I feel offended 🤣
@wernerviehhauser94
@wernerviehhauser94 2 ай бұрын
As a physicist, I am aware that engineers build great stuff with outdated tools and are saved by mandatory safety factors :-)
@Qefyan
@Qefyan 2 ай бұрын
​@@wernerviehhauser94 and I'm also aware that physicists can't prove their hypothesis or invent new hypothesis just to make little money, live on social security, and sleep in the back of their office :)
@wernerviehhauser94
@wernerviehhauser94 2 ай бұрын
@AndromedaAlrescha like what? Particle accelerator? Done that. Camera operating at 1.7K? Done that. I'm a physicist and a tinkerer, and I know how engineers work - and I really don't think there is a lot to change about that. Their methods are crude, but they get stuff done and make it to work.
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 2 ай бұрын
20:49 "Is math created or invented?" Both mean the same thing 😂 What you meant to ask was, "Is math discovered or invented?", with the former implying that it exists on its own outside of our minds and the latter implying that it doesn't exist on its own but simply inside our minds.
2 ай бұрын
Our sum of scientific data is self-incoherent, that doesn't mean abstraction is intrinsically limiting, it means that our efficiency of abstraction is low enough to the point where you can't reconstruct a phenomenon from one field of science using the data from that of another field. The concrete distinctions between the myriad fields of science are each an abyss of incoherence as the result of every researcher in their respective field working with the non-concomitated data from their select field. In simpler terms, a pharmacist doesn't need to know electron orbitals in order to sell pills, an architect doesn't need to know engineering as well as an engineer does, and these requirement so on cause this incoherence. It's overspecialization.
2 ай бұрын
If you come into a society where scientific principles are named after the people who discovered them, you can tell that the focus is on individual vanity rather than on efficiency.
2 ай бұрын
Bernoulli's Principle? Right, let's make students take extra time to memorise this guy's name rather than naming that principle after an intuitive description. Small little details add up to become a big jarring experience that severely discourages your average joe from becoming a polymath.
2 ай бұрын
For the record: I met a lady with a PhD. in Biomedical Sciences who thought hydrogen was a red solid at room temperature.
@eastereg7838
@eastereg7838 2 ай бұрын
Can't agree more
@vlc-cosplayer
@vlc-cosplayer 2 ай бұрын
"rather than naming that principle after an intuitive description" But naming things is hard! "There's 3 hard things in computer science: naming things, cache invalidation, and off by one errors."
@jeppknappen6901
@jeppknappen6901 2 ай бұрын
I was wondering why my walls were negative in length
@SanityInAnAmazonBoxShorts
@SanityInAnAmazonBoxShorts Ай бұрын
0:50 hated it when Kaufmo got turned into a number :(
@CNKP805
@CNKP805 2 ай бұрын
MAKiT You've nailed another banger bro
@Student-jd8vf
@Student-jd8vf 2 ай бұрын
This video is great. Never paid much attention to imaginary mass as you did. BTW, Breaking Math with Math would make some interesting video too.
@FlyingParrot225
@FlyingParrot225 2 ай бұрын
with imaginary values you just need to add another dimension, spacial or temporal depending on what kind of value is imaginary, so an imaginary 1d velocity would mean traveling perpendicular to the direction that real velocities send matter in
@wizardzombie1545
@wizardzombie1545 2 ай бұрын
Second hour repeating the video, still understanding nothing but cool animated cubes and balls
@MAKiTHappen
@MAKiTHappen 2 ай бұрын
Hey, I've made the video understanding nothing... I'm just here to make cool cubes and balls
@Satict
@Satict 2 ай бұрын
7:00 Wait wasn't it the other way? Like The photon percieves time as 0 and the observer sees it as 1?? Otherwise going faster would make you exactly as The flash since you would not see a change between the before and now, meaning that if you do get some kind of boots that let you reach speed of light velocity (and dont let you evaporize) you could basically be a god.
@divy1211
@divy1211 2 ай бұрын
absolutely wonderful video on abstraction, and how physics/maths are a model for the universe!
@linuxp00
@linuxp00 2 ай бұрын
Well, if you assume quadvectors square as quaternions s = t+ix+iy+iz yields s² = t² - x² - y² - z² (signature + - - -). Being faster than light is be trapped in (or create) a Black Hole, where time becomes a destination and space goes only forward as is time, towards the central singularity.
@wernerviehhauser94
@wernerviehhauser94 2 ай бұрын
Forgot a square there
@linuxp00
@linuxp00 2 ай бұрын
@@wernerviehhauser94 thanks. I edited the comment.
@buffedsans8761
@buffedsans8761 2 ай бұрын
It's easy to break physics with math. You only need to do a perfect sphere with maths and search in the universe if you can find a perfect sphere like in the math world.
@somenerd8139
@somenerd8139 2 ай бұрын
This the best video about physics shenanigans I’ve ever watched.
@slowpnir
@slowpnir 2 ай бұрын
20:03 No time-travel, just space-like intervals. GR does not permit FTL.
@alexdefoc6919
@alexdefoc6919 2 ай бұрын
8:53 Great project for babies
@johnculver6994
@johnculver6994 2 ай бұрын
No, you don't break the physics, meerely the model and that's a good thing because that leads to new models.
@MAKiTHappen
@MAKiTHappen 2 ай бұрын
That's... the point of this video
@andrewprahst2529
@andrewprahst2529 2 ай бұрын
8:22 Imaginary time could be perpendicular to regular time. The axis you'd need to traverse to move to parallel timelines. Like how the i-axis is perpendicular to the normal number line on the complex plane. Negative just indicates which direction you are moving to along that axis.
@theeyeofomnipotent
@theeyeofomnipotent Ай бұрын
Ontological "telescope", a way to make sense of a thing by viewing how it interacts with things we know and understand, "the shape of the hole in your mind" in short, so.. this telescope is limited and can't perceive things that don't interact with our reality, but won't matter here since we are using a familiar concept that of "dimension", though to actually answer negative existence, we maybe have to dig deeper to understand the nature of existence itself, but meh: I see pseudo-dimension i suppose, the way imaginary numbers act is like an additional variable that has to be processed differently, By moving in imaginary time, you will observe reality where anything that interacts with reality has an imaginary variable in it, plain and simple, although will need a simulation to captivate it hahaha Negative total distance also interacts as such by "being at" a pseudo-dimension, by being negative to all things, it will constantly looks like it being always a distance apart to everything, it would look really weird basically, either a local omnipresence with negative space eminating from it, or a wormhole like view of the object, because everything needs to reach more distance to such object including light, it actually will kinda look normal in small amounts of negative distance, you just can't touch it within arms lenght, it'll probably feel like reaching in a wormhole, Afterall distance is just an emergent variable from space itself, For imaginary distance, well the thing couldn't interact with us anyway, it basically didn't exist at all, and it is like an pseudo 4th dimension anyway, if it emit any photons with complex amount of movement... First it will drag all matter into the imaginary axis with it's momentum and gravitational influence thereby "destroying" the universe by making it unavailable to normal "real" 3d beings because it seperates the interaction in an imaginary curve... or propel a mass pseudo4D adaptation of the universe as normal matter is suddenly capable of emiting in a new axis in an ever expanding bubble with the speed of light, or let's say the normal 3D things can't be moved into imaginary, then... the "real" part of the photon will interact with your eyes and the imaginary part will be passed, it will appear more transparent if you approach it, (appearing to not exist if your eyes are up against the seemingly normal object), as the imaginary component is becoming more dominant the more perpendicular you are to it, and perpendicular imaginary light just not interact with you, the object itself will look normal, you cannot touch it, but it will look like it exist according to it's real position component, infact this is the same intuition as 4d shadows, but weirder, And thats the thing, we as consciousness don't "care" as long as it is observable, it doesn't have to make "sense", you can make 1+1=2, and you can kinda perceive that, as a reality where objects or feelings duplicate and dissapear randomly, as long as our organs can perceive it, it remains normal no matter how weird it is to our universe, our brain is a memetic filter lol to actually make things insane, is to input directly to a consciousness, but meh this is outside the scope of the discussion, Have a fulfilling day wonderful other consciousness,
@haruka2632
@haruka2632 Ай бұрын
This is exactly how I always wanted to consume math and physics. So much more fun and interesting than “you don’t wanna see the equations/code” the hell i don’t
@arandomdiamond2
@arandomdiamond2 Ай бұрын
So my favorite use of math describing something real comes from an interesting discussion I had with my professor over a certain problem. The problem uses an equation that describes the probability of an event ending at each step, rising until step n where it is 100%, that is, guaranteed. The interesting bit is that putting step n+1 into the equation yields a divide by zero. Here is the question: what is the probability of the event ending at step n+1? Looking at the equation holds no clues as even infinite probability is undefined since it can't be greater than 1. Considering that there is no way for step n+1 to be reached, one may conclude that 0% is reasonable - but asking the question assumes that step n+1 has already been reached and we are simply making a decision regardless of what happened before, in which case a human would end the event with 100% certainty. I think this example shows how there are many reasonable answers to the question "what is division by 0?" because it depends on what you want to happen. On the flip side, the equation ran into a divide by zero in the first place because the domain of the problem ended at step n, so using the equation outside of that domain doesn't necessarily reflect reality. It is only when the math we use carry nuances about reality that we don't expect which results in surprising results. If we did expect those nuances to carry over, the results would not be surprising. Inversely, when the results are surprising, there may be nuances in the math that do describe reality to an extra degree.
@silver_3552
@silver_3552 2 ай бұрын
There's a neat explaination of what it'd be like to travel faster than like in special relativity and it has all to do with it's description of space time as a pseudo euclidean space. It's kinda hard to explain it in a short comment and I'd suggest to any interested to search for it themselves, but essentially the problem is that one could be in multiple places at the same time thus breaking causality Also, for reasons akin to why it's impossible to reach the speed of light, it's impossible to decelerate to a speed lower than light if you were going faster so there's that too
@JinKee
@JinKee 2 ай бұрын
14:14 drop a ball onto a rotating naked singularity in such a way that you don’t touch the toroidal event horizon
@TheZanzaroni
@TheZanzaroni Ай бұрын
This is a fascinating deep dive into the insight of what physics and engineering does. They are using models to simplify and predict real world phenomena, the more complex the model the more accurate the results, but, the higher the computational cost. No model is perfect and it does break down when pushed, but real life, the models we have are more than good enough, and for our theoretical understanding of the universe, our understanding is as good as our models, which keep evolving.
@Luxof_
@Luxof_ 2 ай бұрын
17:07 Imaginary technique: Hollow Purple
@kaiperdaens7670
@kaiperdaens7670 Ай бұрын
Literally a few hours ago I realised that photons don't travel trough time and I was talking about it with someone.
@cefcephatus
@cefcephatus 2 ай бұрын
To figure out imaginary time, one has to distinguish between scalar time and coordinate time first. Imaginary scalar time doesn't really make sense, imaginary scalar doesn't even exist in math. Imaginary coordinate time is interesting one, it is how the time fabric itself warps. That sounds like imaginary time could just be space, but I mean, that won't explain time travel... or would prohibit time travel. Also, time travel is impossible, when looking into what "faster than light" really means in information theory. For quantum information being exchanged with photon interaction, if the source is moving faster than light, it means the source would appear to observer before the consequences (like tachyon), this happens because photon can't reach observer before source, and that looks like time travel. But, if the observer is moving faster than light, then, the observer can experience consequences from source quicker, and nothing breaks. But, because these 2 circumstances don't aligned, it breaks relativity. If we added overseer as outside observer, both of the observer and source would look like they're in 2 places at the same time. And that might as well be called an entanglement.
@YEWCHENGYINMoe
@YEWCHENGYINMoe 2 ай бұрын
20:20 the classic chatGPT answer
@MAKiTHappen
@MAKiTHappen 2 ай бұрын
I am not an AI my fellow humans As a human myself I can say with confidence that this script was not AI genereted since it was written by a human, me (I am a human) Sincerely, human
@Kevoc_Studio
@Kevoc_Studio 2 ай бұрын
​@@MAKiTHappen i think they meant it as a joke, and that clip was the punchline (i think)
@MAKiTHappen
@MAKiTHappen 2 ай бұрын
@@Kevoc_Studio I'm glad you don't doubt my humanity my fellow human I will now go to continue with my human activities I've been performing as a human
@Kevoc_Studio
@Kevoc_Studio 2 ай бұрын
@@MAKiTHappen i am currently experiencing emotions as happiness for i have been noticed by a person that creates content on this platform that i enjoy.
@lanata64
@lanata64 2 ай бұрын
So close to mentioning SH thank god was gonna break my edging streak
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 2 ай бұрын
SH?
@lanata64
@lanata64 2 ай бұрын
spherical harmonics expansion of gravity/gravitational potential
@drchaz2849
@drchaz2849 2 ай бұрын
I watched the video in reverse so I could see how we can break math using physics.
@MrX1230_
@MrX1230_ Ай бұрын
This channel is so underrated damn
@E-cube_frukt
@E-cube_frukt 28 күн бұрын
bro your animations skills looks really good, i don’t really know if it is in fact, but at least it looks like that
@telotawa
@telotawa 2 ай бұрын
it's less of a cone and more of a pareto front there might be things higher levels of abstraction can explain that lower ones cant - or would be impractical to describe with lower levels (try doing relativistic QM simulation of a whole brain to derive psychology!)
@SirRebrl
@SirRebrl 2 ай бұрын
That's the function of the reduction in complexity. When the complexity becomes absurdly overwhelming it kills accessibility to higher level patterns. Abstract out to a reduced complexity and diminished accuracy, and gain access to a fuzzy vision of higher patterns.
@TheUltraDavDav
@TheUltraDavDav Ай бұрын
very much like these kind of ideas! in my comic i have a light based character with time powers. landing heavy punches he end's up getting faster. logic being, he goes so fast causality acts up shifting impacts into the past which makes an effect similar to stealing kinect energy. like he's borrowing energy from the past to propel him forward.
@EmeraldEmsiron
@EmeraldEmsiron 2 ай бұрын
relativity makes a hell of a lot more sense when you think of it as how much time it takes for one thing to recieve the info of the other. acceleration changes time because it "squishes" or "stretches" the instances of information sending
@alexdefoc6919
@alexdefoc6919 2 ай бұрын
1:30 Reality i might say it is the bounderies of math. Normalising abstracted stuff.
@insainsin
@insainsin 2 ай бұрын
Normal change in time: constant=dt^2-dx^2 Imaginary time: constant=dx^2-dt^2 Where dx is the unit of space aligned to the direction of your velocity. So imaginary time is just rescaled space and vise versa. What this would mean from perception view point is: The speed of light miraculously is still the speed of light. But how you perceive it may be different. Analogous to how time always seemed to be moving in normal time, space is instead always moving in imaginary. It's just a fact of reality. Analogous to space in normal time, in imaginary time your default movements through time is unmoving. The universe is frozen around you. Your default velocity is infinite. And actually doesn't hold much meaning. Instead of dx/dt, we focus on dt/dx. Change in time over change in space. We can call it belocity. Similar to velocity, there is space dilation when you increase in belocity. As your belocity increases, so does your movement through space. You would never be able to reach 1/c. If all objects were faster than the speed of light. The universe from your perspective wouldn't look to different from our current universe. A mixture of the two, would lead to weird entropic gradients, though.
@thecreeperking7313
@thecreeperking7313 Ай бұрын
great video as always physics major i’ve been wanting to plug in these values
@johnstud1os
@johnstud1os 2 ай бұрын
What if my brain cells were imaginary? GREAT video MAKiT btw. Never give up on these videos…
@ekut1922
@ekut1922 2 ай бұрын
before watching anything more than the imaginary time, physics does have that I believe it's called complex minkowski spacetime, but I'm dumb as hell so I can't tell you what it's about exactly (it's more like events in time and the imaginary unit is kinda eh)
@louisnemzer6801
@louisnemzer6801 2 ай бұрын
"But it seems I was simply rotated into an orthogonal time that runs at right angles to this one" Futurama 😅
@ianistomin8737
@ianistomin8737 Ай бұрын
"Dig a hole, drop a ball" is my new favorite quote 😂
@heph4estus570
@heph4estus570 2 ай бұрын
i see our channel is earning the fame it so rightfully deserve. im proud to be one of the kids who watched this grow from ground up. thankyou makit, you are a superhuman.
@leucurus5057
@leucurus5057 29 күн бұрын
13:22 this is actually the case in KSP where the gravitational acceleration increases up until a singularity at 0 to the planet's core.
@humdansiddiqui4896
@humdansiddiqui4896 2 ай бұрын
Your videos deserve more views
@mrpysell6771
@mrpysell6771 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing, instant subscribe!!! Keep it up!!
@labidifaycal3185
@labidifaycal3185 2 ай бұрын
Finally Math is the accrobacy of creating everythings unreal, Math is decieved by abstraction and reductionism , it is a big dreamer in an imaginagry world without bread, water and air . Math is a walking-dead being who usually but not always do right works which sometimes useful to controle the balance of realism 😊😊😊
@masscreationbroadcasts
@masscreationbroadcasts 2 ай бұрын
8:02 When your physics equations tell you that doing something turns you into fiction, you need to stop.
@sphakamisozondi
@sphakamisozondi 2 ай бұрын
3:11 bro, you said you'll start with something easy!! You betrayed me bro 😅
@gadgetgecko1776
@gadgetgecko1776 2 ай бұрын
This actually reminds me of a really cool series on negative mass by Science Meets Fiction. Gread Vid!
@gamertao5231
@gamertao5231 2 ай бұрын
Ngl, this feels more like meth rather then math
@vilkillian
@vilkillian 2 ай бұрын
There is a concept of a spacetime. Spacetime is a 4-dimensional vector (A 4-vector) that describes time as being a component of the same abstract "space" of points of the same unit as the regular space. So, how do we make time make sense as a length? The light travels at the speed of light regardless of reference point. So, wherever you are, however you fast, for one seconds light travels that fixed amount of meters. That's how we define second: "The time it takes the light to travel X meters". Ok, now we can describe length though time (aka lightsecond, lightyear) and time through length (lightmeter - is a measure of time). By the properties of spacetime, you're traveling trough spacetime at the speed of light, always. The length of velocity vector (so the change of that vector) is always the speed of light, you travel through space -> you travel less trough time. The same way as if you're going diagonally, you're going "less" up. The time is still a special boi. The distance between two points isn't really the same distance that we use in regular space it is defined like that: ds^2 = dx^2 + dy^2 + dz^2 - (c*dt)^2 Somewhere, somehow in quadratics, there's a minus... strange, usually complex numbers behave that way. One dude, Minkowski, thought the same, and unified complex numbers with relativity and spacetime, he proposed an invariant: x^2 + y^2 + z^2 + (i * c * t)^2 = const. Here a time is clearly an imaginary component of a 4-vector, a variant of supercomplex number if you will... So we can think of time as of imaginary complex component of a space. So, say, if you're somehow momentarily accelerate past speed of light, the t itself become complex, with the invariant, i*i gives a -1. And the overall complex component of the spacetime invariant becomes 0 And so, if you'll somehow travel past the speed, you'll basically stop the time and will be able to move through space without moving though time, your time will become your space. Granted, you'll instantly be in a borderless void, so dark, there isn't a place in the whole universe so dark. Because if you don't move through time, the EM field isn't oscillating and there are no "photons" per se, and no concept of frequency, you won't see anything, ever. And if you stop, you'll probably create a new Big Bang, because you'll have to decelerate through the point of infinite energy. So... like jojo, but worse. EDIT: fixed some misspells
@WillJohnathan
@WillJohnathan 2 ай бұрын
Your videos are extremely high quality. 3D graphics animation explaining physics? C'mon, that has got to be more popular. So, here are some advice to attract more people so that they'll stay: 1. Try to speak with a consistent volume. Sometimes you alter your volume to emphasise points and emotions. Use something else like timing and speed. E.g.: Speak slower for important points. My professor also do this. 2. Background music. It doesn't have to be loud, but it has to be there. Most if not all science channels have them. They provide a more immersive experience. You'll be surprised at how high-quality royalty free music can be. You don't even need a lot of them; check Morphocular, they have like 3 background music in total, and this provides a comfy atmosphere already. Of course, I am not professional, and the advice I gave are only my opinions. I hope you find them helpful. Wish you videos would be more popular, my dude.
@theorixlux
@theorixlux 2 ай бұрын
Next video, we should try to break maths by using physics. Im thinking we push a few statisticians off a cliff. Or we use a physics textbook propped against a fixed axel and mathematian's femur.
@nartoomeon9378
@nartoomeon9378 2 ай бұрын
We can compute the kinetic energy as mv²/2 . So, this formula can give a negative number not only from negative mass, but (pure)imaginary velocity. This kind of velocity may exist in 2-dimensional time.
@keLv_dGeneRAL
@keLv_dGeneRAL 2 ай бұрын
Amazing. Absolutely amazing. You've gained yourself a subscriber. 🎉
@Captain.Mystic
@Captain.Mystic Ай бұрын
Something something Light Fantastic, Frostburn, and other pratchett running gags.
@Brunoscaramuzzi
@Brunoscaramuzzi 2 ай бұрын
I think you inverted the velocity of time for the moving cube and photon. Time passes slower for the moving object instead of faster. Photons dont evolve with time because time dont pass for them.
@nirnama.aksara
@nirnama.aksara 2 ай бұрын
So in negative velocity, if i push forward an object, it will move backward?
@orbismworldbuilding8428
@orbismworldbuilding8428 Ай бұрын
Yes, which means it would press itself against your hand, which in turn presses against it and it pushes back harder
@OmarWehbeh-hXO
@OmarWehbeh-hXO 2 ай бұрын
Finally a video from my favorite channel 🎉
@CalisthenicsEmporer
@CalisthenicsEmporer 2 ай бұрын
This video made me rewatch "The Flash" series.
@Barteks2x
@Barteks2x 2 ай бұрын
For "time being frozen to photons" and time dilation when traveling faster - a neat thing that I figured out that I have not yet seen anyone ever mention: As you use more and more energy to accelerate faster, you can't exceed the speed of light "as seen by a stationary observer", but also to those observers, the time *you* experience stretches... so according to them, you may be able to travel 4 light years, while they see you experiencing only one year of time. And this really works. To you, distances get shorter, and while you don't measure yourself exceeding the speed of light, the distances you measure get short enough that you can in fact reach an object that at the start WAS 4 light years away, in 1 year. And in general, if you use some X amount of energy to accelerate, you will reach an object some distance away in a time that would be predicted by non-relativistic physics, so you will sort of see yourself accelerating exactly as Newton would predict, except that the distances contract, so you don't *actually* go faster than the speed of light. So think about it... relativity seems to somehow conspire to make time dilation and length contraction to make it look as if relativity didn't exist when you try to go faster, except that somehow a journey that may have been 1 year for you lasted 100 years to someone outside. So for photons... they do sort of seem themselves going "infinitely fast", because everything is zero distance away. Regarding imaginary mass - when I tried to think of what imaginary mass would do, I came to the conclusion that it would behave pretty much like electric charge, though I have no idea how to reconcile it with the negative energy
@rashishsaini50
@rashishsaini50 2 ай бұрын
7:30, you cannot define a frame with speed c as it violates one of the postulates of special relativity that "speed of light is an invariant and is constant in all inertial frames" hence asking the question about "light's perspective" or "time dilation from light's frame of reference" is meaningless as looking from "light's reference frame" would infer a frame where light is at rest. So saying photon experiencing infinite time is wrong. (edit : since you're breaking physics anyway i dont mind)
@PM74rake
@PM74rake 2 ай бұрын
Well made
@Its_Maxie
@Its_Maxie 2 ай бұрын
10:28 for energy to be negative, time doesn't have to be
@applimu7992
@applimu7992 Ай бұрын
I've always thought of time as imaginary space and space as imaginary time because of how the metric tensor works
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