You Can't Bring Back Old Traditions (but you can renew them)

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

There seems to be a lot of confusion with the point of this video. Before you angrily call me a heretic, read this: breakinginthehabit.org/2020/02/08/lessons-learned-from-my-last-video/

[@SeezSantos]

Breaking In The Habit 🙏🏽

[@SeezSantos]

Breaking In The Habit great read btw! I highly recommend making a video on this.

[@multismashify]

I have read this blogpost. I will admit to being a bit disappointed by it. It seems, at least in certain regards, hypocritical, as a major portion of the post seems to conclude that the majority of those who responded critically to this video simply read the title and did not watch the video in it's entirety before casting stones. I know that this is in fact NOT the case for several of those of us who did respond critically, and the conclusion seems as equally self-serving as what you accuse us of. You also seem geared toward describing those who you have already misrepresented as merely being ignorant. This is poor way to approach your critics, as it operates in bad faith. The burden first and foremost in such a situation as this is not on the part of the audience, but on the part of the one who is presenting a given message. It is your responsibility to communicate your message effectively, and the presentation of this video was confused. It could have benefited, for instance, with a demonstration that you clearly understand the difference between traditions and Tradition. While you have clarified that point in many responses here and and I'm certain in many private messages, if you had simply included this to begin with in your video, you would have likely saved yourself much trouble. As such, the video appears to be speaking about tradition in the broadest sense possible, while appearing to overlook a glaring contradictory statement about how the Gospel is unchanging, making it seem as though you think all tradition in malleable and dependent upon time and place. This makes it seem like you have not only confused tradition and the subjective experience of tradition, but that this might be the basis of your understanding of traditions and Tradition, which would be highly flawed. This is how the video, I believe, comes across to many. Furthermore, one is left to wonder who precisely this video is addressed to, as it seems to assume that certain people who wish to recover old traditions want to re-institute them without consideration to a frame of reference for what a given gesture or symbol might mean. At the end of the day, the way you have responded to this video feels like the defensive antics of a man who has had his ego wounded and doesn't know how to handle it, which is a bad way for a priest to face any kind of challenge in matters of faith. It is YOUR responsibility to communicate effectively, and not hurl sweeping characterizations of your critics as ignorant when you have to face consequences for poorly communicating your message. You have asked many here to operate in a spirit of humility. I recommend you follow your own advice and do not allow your ego to comprise your ministry. Taken directly from your blogpost: "Is it my responsibility to be concerned with how people will misunderstand my comments and be led astray by them?" The answer is a resounding YES. Make sure your message, as a minister of Christ, is clear.

[@johnking5174]

I get a lot of people in my Anglican church questioning the changes in our traditions. From the time the Church of England was established until the 1970s all of our services was performed according to the Book of Common Prayer, specifically the 1662 adaptation, in the traditional English language. When in the 1970s the church allowed services to be held in the "contemporary" English language, and the start of the Alternative Prayer Book which led to the Book of Common Worship which I use now, many have felt we have abandoned our traditions - Casey would you say this is what is happening with your church? Thanks.

[@rufinoescanos4746]

Breaking In The Habit I do not believe that you meant to be mean spirited. Nor do I agree with those who may have called you a heretic. You do not fit that category. However, I do agree with many who call you to task on your presentation. You came across as condescending toward Catholics who seek in some of our older traditions stability in the faith. In your video you seem to have discounted this fact. I have also read your subsequent posts where you go into a defensive mode. Even then you are condescending. You basically tell your audience that you should not be criticized by those who do not have an understanding of theology. I am sure that many of the persons who have commented positively do not have an understanding of theology. Should they be told to not pat you on the back because they do not know theology? You seem to think that your video was not confusing. All your audience has to do is listen intently to your words of wisdom without criticizing and it will all be clear. Informed Catholics do not buy into this idea and for that reason found your video confusing and illogical. Even the background music on that video sent a negative message. At least to me. There is organ music while you speak in somewhat nostalgic terms about traditions. Then modern music when you speak otherwise. What does this indicate? Traditional organ music is antiquated and undesirable. Modern music is good and desirable. Your ego has probably been hurt by all the negative responses. When you started on KZbin did you expect to always get a thumbs up? If you cannot stand the heat get out of the fire.

[@TheBigWhiteBear]

Back in 1900, a cassock meant, "I am clergy; I am set aside for the service of God." Today, it means, "I am clergy; I am set aside for the service of God."

[@splashpont]

Or, "I am a priest and you are not. I know everything and my opinion better." I have seen this negative attitude way too often.

[@adventureinallthings]

Yes plus... I'm a trad priest that belongs to a very particular group within the church, I'm not like those... Bad priests. Yup, that's what you forget to mention Mr thebigwhitebear...

[@adventureinallthings]

@Sunil Sunny eh Sunil , I was being scarcastic ....

[@RullArch90]

I'm sure for the vast majority of clergy, you are right. But there is a subset who see wearing the cassock, in addition to connecting to their vocation, as a way of signaling that they are better or more informed then other clergy. Conversely, there are Catholics who connected to the church during the post-Vatican II era who, when they see a seminarian in a cassock, automatically jump to the conclusion that the young man is a bitter reactionary without actually knowing what is in his heart or how he views his ministry. I think it is nuanced.

[@adventureinallthings]

@@RullArch90 I don't think it's so hard, if he was in Poland were it is still well ' everyday and usual ' he is probably just like any other but if in the USA he is probably one of these po faced holier than thou foolish ones

[@aceAltair]

As a 21 year old, my generation has little sense of the sacred any more. Yet, most Catholics my age who actually practice their faith have a great love for the traditions of our Church. Father, your point about just transplanting old traditions into the present day is only a problem if it's done for the sake of it, and if there was no desire among the faithful. Like a failed organ transplant, rejected by the body. But it's not. We love tradition. There is an overwhelming desire of so many to rediscover these beautiful traditions. We encounter God through it more concretely, and you simply can't deny the experience of so many people (young and old) who have felt this way; especially when we struggle to bring young people into to the Church today.

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

Yes, but those old traditions will always take on a new character in a different world. The Latin Mass is an old tradition, but at one point, people actually spoke Latin. It meant one thing to them 1200 years ago, and another thing to day us today. And both can be good. The point is that you cannot live 1200 years ago simply by recovering their traditions. You always act today.

[@aceAltair]

Thanks for the reply! I agree that we can't pretend we're living 1200 years ago. I think the Extraordinary Form of the Mass shows the continuity with all the faithful who have gone before us, the great communion of saints. In a world where the fundamental fabric of our society is being torn apart by subjective ideology and distorted truths, the Mass remains unchanged and speaks of an eternal truth, as it is the same Holy sacrifice of Our Lord on Calvary, which was 2000 years ago. Pax et bonum, Father!

[@kylejames2769]

@@BreakingInTheHabit Genuine question: Why is Latin more effective in casting out demons from the possessed? Also, why did a demon confess that receiving Communion in the hand was a victory of Satan, a protestant practice?

[@0333Gus]

@@BreakingInTheHabit What makes the 'Latin mass' appealing isn't so much the use of Latin but its peace, its respect for tradition and more importantly authenticity. It's becoming popular precisely for those reasons you stated whereas often I feel the new mass has been designed somewhat clumsily by committee.

[@lisamarie5149]

@@BreakingInTheHabit Father, I don't think anyone wants to live 1200 years ago! With the lack of proper hygiene, sanitation, technology and medicine, I can't imagine anyone desiring to go back in time. However, certain Catholic traditions transcend time and retain their spiritual meaning to those who practice them. I believe that's the reason so many Catholics are rediscovering certain traditions with such joy. As someone who was deprived of many of these traditions, I'm finding deep enrichment of my faith in practicing them. Receiving communion kneeling and on my tongue and covering my head during mass has focused my attention more on our Lord and Savior.

[@Mudball2006]

I don’t think traditions are brought back for no reason. People understand the importance that a certain practice was and what it will be

[@rebeccaanderson5626]

Abominations of the second Vatican council had produced a generation of priest who would try to resist any form of traditional movement

[@CybermanKing]

I’m not a traditionalist but I think the revival of the Latin Mass particularly under the direction of Pope Benedict XVI is more than just bringing back traditions because they were used in the past by our Church. It’s not just for posterity it reminds us of our humility and service to God and His children.

[@Rene-uj5vw]

well thats true but the mass of the early church is similar to the ordinary mass.

[@singcook1]

But only for some people.

[@ianprince1698]

it depends on why you wear a certain uniform if it is to show humility and service that is good so people can identify you, but others wear the uniform to show how holier they are that is wrong

[@leejennifercorlewayres9193]

Renewing anything back to its original form is to erase what the devils have done. It's like they have been plucking the Church like a chicken. Same thing is happening to protestant churches.

[@CybermanKing]

@@leejennifercorlewayres9193 I disagree. Adam and Eve didn’t come to the world as sinners but through our baptism, we are renewed with the New Adam that is Christ.

[@multismashify]

I think there are very, VERY few traditionalists who seek to recover a particular practice simply because it was something done in the past. Many seek out the TLM and other pre-Vatican II practices not because of some sense of what is fashionable, but rather because what has become the standard in so many parishes following Vatican II is a spiritual life broken and deformed by liturgy that does no inspire reverence and a proper sense of mystery, and catechesis that does not properly instruct the faithful in the contents of their faith. Few seek the institutions of the past simply to appear radical. Rather, the seek them because of the meaning they held. And while it may be true that change happens in select Church traditions, those select traditions should be guided by a sense of evolving toward greater fidelity in reflecting and communicating the unchanging nature of the Gospel. As you yourseld admit, that Gospel is indeed unchanging. So where certain smaller traditions may change, those minor traditions should be in harmony with the larger Tradition that is guided by the Holy Spirit, and should always seek to conform themselves better to that Tradition.

[@xp_studios7804]

In no way is Novus ordo more or less reverent than TLM. Just different expressions of the same truth

[@TrueCorventus]

Exactly. Holy tradition and the Holy Bible go hand in hand.

[@sissybrooks8588]

@@xp_studios7804when was the last time you went to a Latin Mass? I'm not a traditionalist, but, there is no way you can tell me they are on the same page.

[@country_boy7475]

@J Sheeba worship is not about the worshipper, it is about the One who is Worshipped. You disparage the Traditional Latin Mass because you do not understand what the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is. And also the Roman Missals have the latin and english translation on opposite page.

[@sissybrooks8588]

@J Sheeba I understand. I attend the "Novus Ordo", myself. Just because one loves the traditions and and symbolism and prayers of the "Old Faith", doesn't make them enemies of the. New Mass. The problem is the intention behind the changes, and the attempt to build the "New Order". I am just old enough to have tasted the remnants of what it was like before it changed. It is one thing to change and it's another thing to throw out all that is good and introduce a watered-down version. I am of that generation that bridged between the old and the current. If you could only have tasted what it is like... paradise compared to what is now. I literally crave it. And that is because God was there. Now it is too worldly, watered down, insipid. Personally, I prefer the Eastern Rites. Their liturgies come from the apostles and the Church Fathers. No saint wrote the current Mass, that's for sure.

[@JoshJimenez_]

The return to Tradition isn't about the person, it's about God. He deserves reverence

[@ZacharyCath]

Exactly. Things like beauty and goodness are objective as they relate to God. The doing away of certain traditions can and do mean a true loss for the faith.

[@Marco85111]

you guys are bullies,,,,,,you don't even watch this channel yet you find a reason to judge and get angry at things that aren't really your concern.......go back to reddit

[@ZacharyCath]

@@Marco85111 How is truth "being a bully". Love and reverence of God and all of that which he represents is more important than appealing to the childish appetites, specifically vices, of modern day Western society.

[@Marco85111]

@@ZacharyCath bullies always have an excuse to push people below them and gloat over their foe.....love your enemies......love is kind, love is truth, love is patient......you can bring up excuse but it doesn't matter....god knows your heart....he wants you not bully souls into believing truth.. I am not going to play your game...don't be an asshole to people

[@JoshJimenez_]

@@Marco85111 I'm definitely not bullying the man. Like I said God deserves the best, we were way more reverent to our Faith back then. I'm sticking up for our Traditional Catholics at the end of the day

[@bonniemelielo5446]

I LOVE seeing priests and seminarians wearing cassocks!! It is distinctly Catholic. :-) The "Roman collar" can be and is worn by Protestants, even by women clergy. You can't just walk up to a man wearing a Roman collar and assume he is a Catholic priest. But the cassock! :-) Yes!

[@neacej1]

Bonnie Melielo or Eastern Orthodox

[@matthewcruz1709]

Anglicans sometimes wear cassock too.

[@Marco85111]

whats so special about a dress

[@Marco85111]

​@Daniel Davies no i mean.....why do priests wear a cassock it looks like a dress Plus how you dress doesn't really matter, what matters is the heart. If someone is truly obsessed with exterior looks then sure, it matters. But God tells us the inside matters, not the outside

[@ceasium98]

Anglicans wear the cassock too where I'm from. You can differentiate between RC and C of E priests by the number of the buttons on their cassock, or the make of the cassock. Anglican cassocks have 39 buttons (for the 39 articles of religion) or are double-breasted and have a centre button for attachment of academic hoods during evensong/matins. (Anglican albs for servers are also double-breasted.) However, many Anglican clergy are now choosing to wear the Roman cassock.

[@Nkrlz]

I'm an atheist (with some serious doubts) raised in a catholic family in a catholic country, i from my perspective i can tell you the more "traditional" a church is, the more i respect it. Because it dares defy the trappinga of modernity, it does not want converts (as if they were members of a political party) but true belicers that are ready to defy society for their faith.

[@VadeRetroSatanaPAX]

That's exactly why when I gave up on my 20 years of atheism, and found a love for God and his love in return, I joined the Traditional Latin Mass and never looked back. You could too ya know! ;)

[@BradSchepisi]

The reason why a tradition in the early church, the 12th century or 1945 had any meaning at all is not because of the time period in which it occurred or the nature of the particular tradition, but because of the object that the tradition pointed to.... Our Blessed Lord, which is what is missed so much today. The issue is not "modern" traditions versus "old" traditions. The issue is tradition versus sterility. It is a matter of justice that we give glory and honor to God through beautiful ritual. Catholics are starving for that, and that is the reason why traditional Catholicism is returning, not simply because of novelty.

[@lbd354]

Brad Schepisi - Very well said!! You beat me to it and said it so much more articulaterererer😉. I really like this guy in the video and we will pray for him. The truth is I subscribe to his channel to see how Catholicism is portrayed with a super subtle modernest pop culture tone and then I use your channel Brad (and others) to counter it with warmth and basic apologetic truths. This is a few videos now that are wondering off Catholic basics in a not so subtle way which makes me think he was ask to do them by someone else... eh maybe not. Do you think his content would lead people astray? I don’t as yet. Love all what you do Brad! Pax, L

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

I think you are missing the point. Yes, there is an underlying Tradition (capital T, the unchanging faith that gives everything purpose), but there is always the culturally conditioned experience of that tradition. We are not robots. We do not see things simply for its utility. Our words, actions, clothes, gestures all have tremendous amounts of multi-faceted meaning based on culture, history, and personal experience. They mean specific things to specific people. Take the Latin Mass as a different example. What does it mean? It means the sacrifice of our Lord experienced as a meal. Sure. But 1200 years ago, people spoke Latin. It was the normative cultural experience. Today, no one speaks Latin, and the Latin Mass is only offered in an extreme minority of places. To go to the Latin Mass 1200 years ago and today would have the same ontological effect on us, but it would be experienced (relative to our world, us, Church) in a completely different way.

[@BradSchepisi]

@@BreakingInTheHabitI would argue against that point first by distinguishing the term society from the term culture. Without tradition (small t) a culture dies, because tradition is the act of passing on a culture. What's left is a sterile society. You are correct, modern society would experience TLM differently than a medieval society. But that is not because society is different. It is because the previous generation failed to pass that tradition down to us. We used to call that a "Crisis in Catechesis." Now we just minimize it as an "unhappy renewal of the trad movement." Love your channel! God Bless!

[@BradSchepisi]

@@lbd354 Hey! Thank you for the kind words! Saw your comment over on my channel. Yes, I love this Channel. He has a great presentation. Plus OFS and OPs have to stick together!

[@Ignasimp]

Yes, because in ancient times they were much more focused on God, but not in a good way. Depending on the times a lot of people were cristians because they were desperate to find something that could help them feel better in the same way pseudosciences do it nowadays. In other times it was very common to be christian because everyone around you was, and If you weren't you would be judged strongly by others and would have been a social pariah if you weren't christian. In other times you would be executed if you weren't christian, in some others you would be scared to be possessed by a demon or go to hell if you even questioned or doubted the existence of God, or the way the Church did things. Something great we have nowadays is that you can choose to be christian. It's not an imposition anymore.

[@elliestretchprays7851]

I’m making these new again... I’m wearing head coverings, kneeling for Holy Communion, receiving only from consecrated hands, and on the tongue. Praying the Holy Rosary daily. Reading the Bible daily. Attending daily Holy Mass. Wearing only dresses to church. Listening to good Catholic teachings as often as able

[@JoshJimenez_]

I'm right with you🙏. God deserves the best

[@pajimacas]

Here in Asia, we are recommended to take the Communion by the hand due to the spreading novel coronavirus... Somehow, the mouth is now dirtier than the hands...

[@cheketertepgugma9382]

pajimacas as an Asian myself, specifically as a Filipino, I recommend that you still continue to receive the Host on the tongue. Our hands are not worthy to touch Our Lord let alone the hands of the priest

[@Marco85111]

you can do most of those things in a N.O. context too xD

[@cheketertepgugma9382]

Epic Style true👌🏼

[@1907jdee]

Really? I haven't read all the comments but I think your views may be a little out of touch with us faithful sheep. Our traditions are important not because they are old or because we want to stand out but given the current climate of confusion and moral ambiguity they help us make sense of it all. We find reassurance and meaning in our Traditions regardless of when they began. The more I hear out of Rome - and Berlin the more I want to cling to these traditions. They are the only thing that seem to make sense anymore. God bless!

[@samprastherabbit]

Are you actually hearing and understanding, or just repeating misunderstandings and quickly formed judgements by people who want to remove all charity and love of neighbour from the faith by seizing upon clickbait headlines about Francis?

[@1907jdee]

@@samprastherabbit I formed my own opinion based on my own experiences of what my faith means to me, in particular its traditions as discussed. People who disagreed have beliefs and views that are not "misunderstandings", as you stated and not "quickly formed judgments" and who "remove all charity and love of neighbour". Who is judging who I ask?

[@rbjmartin]

The traditionalist priestly societies (starting with the SSPX, founded in 1970, and then continuing with its offspring, the FSSP and Institute of Christ the King) have *maintained* the tradition of wearing the cassock. To paraphrase Archbishop Lefebvre , they just continued to do what Catholic clerics always did. So this is a true tradition as practiced by these priestly societies, because they have direct continuity with the past.

[@lillianmanuel4956]

Sadly, SSPX is not in communion with Rome, but FSSP is. If you're going to go to a "traditional" Mass, please go to an FSSP one. I don't know about Institution of Christ the King, so I'm not going to comment on that

[@multismashify]

@@lillianmanuel4956 The excommunications pertaining to SSPX were lifted.

[@lillianmanuel4956]

@@multismashify Really? When? I hadn't heard of this.....

[@phillipmarshall2982]

@@lillianmanuel4956 They were lifted by Pope Benedict XVI. The SSPX is technically in irregular status. In fact, Pope Francis has granted them ministering faculties of hearing confessions during the Year of Mercy and they are allowed to celebrate Masses in dioceses for marriages if given permission by the local bishop. I read a lot of Catholic news...lol

[@lillianmanuel4956]

@@phillipmarshall2982 Lol. No, that's great. I need to read more. Anyway, thanks for telling me. I may have to do some more research, but thanks for letting me know

[@reneegardiner3020]

A Cassock is standard issue at my son's seminary :)

[@fadibuni]

Tell your son to convert to Eastren Catholicism and get married. You want to see your grandchildren, don't you?

[@fadibuni]

@@TheIndividualChannel Easterners see a truth in the tradition. A transcendent reality that exeeds our time. The liturgy for us is a meeting between heaven and earth, and we express that reality with all our different rites. The Novus Ordo seems to unfortunately focus on the "gathering" and "us" elements only.

[@reneegardiner3020]

@@fadibuni I want my son to do as the Lord calls him to do. I already have 2 grandchildren and still have 3 other children not married yet

[@reneegardiner3020]

@@TheIndividualChannel Thank you. He has a long way to go....

[@fadibuni]

@@reneegardiner3020 what if God is calling him to be a married priest?

[@TraddyGirl62]

The cassock is a priestly garment. The clerical suit doesn't look very different from a standard laymen's suit save for the collar. The cassock also is a reminder of the priest's life as a sacrifice/holocaust offered to God.

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

It's not about the physical garment itself. It's about the meaning that is attached to it.

[@paxaeterna3709]

@@BreakingInTheHabit What if it is about both? What both things need each other?

[@justiniand6a788]

Priests have historically worn adapted civil garb with priestly elements. Look up "Abito Corto".

[@pgsantoyo]

The curious part of this is that you are arguing against a false antiquarianism.

[@kalel0192]

Exactly, he's describing a movement to restore what was destroyed only a few decades ago, almost no time in the history of the church, and acting like the 1950s were ancient times.

[@splashpont]

@@kalel0192 Songs from the 1950s are called oldies. ;)

[@LostArchivist]

All assume alignment to a side in division and reveal a fault of our time.

[@kalel0192]

@@splashpont You got me!

[@rebeccaanderson5626]

@@kalel0192 obviously the children's of the second Vatican council . The second Vatican council is a clear representation of the work of demonic forces in the Catholic Church we need to undo its effect .

[@tedfrench2895]

I think in a time of great confusion within the Church, it's no surprise to me that the faithful would look toward the past. My family and I will pray for you, yours brothers and your mission.

[@austin_8154]

I have a home Altar which is not as common anymore!! I would love to pass on the tradition on to my kids someday.

[@NonnaTradCat]

LocalAnd Directionless I have a home Altar, also. My husband & (adult) children call me a “zealot” (sigh). Also, I attend an FSSP Parish & feel more connected to Our Lord there than I ever felt for over 50 years in the N.O. Church. Not making any judgements here; just saying how I personally feel. It’s so sad that less that 30% of Catholics today believe in the Real Presence. Some horrific breakdown in communication & catechesis occurred and seriously needs to be repaired ASAP. #Jesuswept

[@jesusisgod6117]

@@NonnaTradCat : Catholic church is back with healings and wonders on KZbin videos BY the channel name JCILM INFO daily live at 9am and 3pm Dubai UAE time. God bless you

[@rubenmartinez4346]

Make the TLM the official mass!

[@ralfyman]

That was the case because Latin was the lingua franca. It is no longer the case today.

[@rubenmartinez4346]

@Ralfy Mann I’m pretty sure latin is still the official language of the church.

[@justinjustinjustin10]

Ruben Martinez hasn't always been. Early on it was Greek. Not dissing Latin, just saying...Latin mass didn't come about for a few centuries after Christ near the Middle Ages. It's beautiful though. Even the Latin mass was at one time the novus ordo of its day lol

[@IsabelS767]

SSPX, ICKSP, FSSP 🥳

[@user-uz7dy5vi7u]

All masses in communion with Rome are ‘official masses’

[@arivel78]

It is interesting to read some of the comments below and see how some people still argue back and fourth between TLM and NO. Perhaps because of the vast options that you have, these siblings squabble exist ☺️☺️☺️ In my country, a Muslim populated country in SEA, we are truly grateful to even have a church to worship and a priest to say mass. 1:4000 is the priest ratio from where I am from. Churches in the rural areas for example are presided not by a priest but a catechist (I think I spelt it wrongly). Even then, the church is always packed although there is no communion. The priest only come once a month to say mass. The priest presence draws more crowd because that is the only time they can partake the Holy Eucharist. Sometimes the bread is not enough that the crowd have to be sent away. The sorry look on the priest breaks my heart. I think if you come to mass with the right mindset, to listen to the word of God and to be united with Him in Holy Eucharist, any form of mass will move you because I'm always moved when I am at our NO Mass.

[@Memetchi95]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It's always enriching to hear different experiences. Yours makes me reflect about the privilege to partake the Eucharist each day. Thank you. 🙏🏽

[@johnnyhardsteel9046]

2 Thessalonians 2:15 Stand firm, then, brothers, and keep the traditions that we taught you, whether by word of mouth or by letter

[@BibleIllustrated]

The split second I saw the video title, I knew that like/dislike ratio would be fun to watch :D Also, it is interesting that (for example) wearing cassock is seen as connecting with Christians of old whereas priests wearing streetwear isn't.

[@billymykel6578]

Bible Illustrated I’m happy to see you here! I watch your channel along with Breaking in the habit and several TLM channels that have really helped me grow in my spiritual journey. Keep up the good work y’all!

[@Ζαχαρίας-σ7λ]

Hi Bojan!

[@goaltender330]

Hi Bojan - love your content as a Byzantine Catholic!

[@Marco85111]

bojan horseman

[@pipsasqeak820]

Bojan what is your oppinion on this matter? I mean your Orthodox so like modernism is already yucky wucky stuff but yeah

[@ochem123]

5:50 The traditional Latin Mass is timeless. It is perfect for any generation.

[@CatholicK5357]

Everything you just said is the exact argument I would use for why I am a traditionalist. After Vatican II, many revolutionized Parish communities and began forcing 'new traditions' on them simply because they were considered better since they apparently were from the early Church. The Church developed since the early Church and innovated and used Latin for millenium. Then we stroll in and say 'lets destroy Latin and all of our other innovations because older is better.' Trying to restore the innovative practices that existed only decades ago makes far more sense than trying to keep pushing these new/old practices that we ripped out from the early Church and tried to force on the modern Church without thinking how it would effect us. Clearly this revolutionizing of the Church has not worked and had the opposite of intended effects. Therefor we should go back to what we know works. Bring back the altar rails, cassocks, Latin, the one year liturgical cycle, and Communion on the tongue. This is not to say that I am against actual innovations that are necessary. I for instance belong to an Ordinariate group of Anglican Churches that were brought back into full Communion with Rome. Even though we are very traditional, it would not make sense for us to use Latin. But I still believe the return to Latin is the right thing to do for many Churches. It should be done though at a pace that works for the faithful. Bringing back the altar rails and Communion on the tongue is much more important.

[@XenobiaWinterWolfMoon]

They are bringing the chapel veil back. I like it. But sadly when I attend in my area I am the only one.

[@rscottlogan9471]

Brianna Nichole Wojciechowicz Be brave!Others will learn from your example.Don’t let any Bishop,priest,nun or deacon tell you that you are wrong.Women covered their heads for 1970 years in the Church!☺️

[@JMH6911]

it always starts with one. keep it up be humble and I pray others join and support you. it's a great act of devotion and respect for the presence of God. so much symbolism associated with it too quite beautiful.

[@MayonnaiseVenusaur]

You described perfectly how I thought about my choice to not eat meat on Fridays. To me the consumption of meat is not celebratory, and the inconvenience of not eating meat is a minor one. But every week it's a little thing I have to do to remind myself that I am a Christian and I have to behave like a Christian all of the time. And as I get older I see that those little things we do, praying a rosary [most days], not eating meat on Fridays, Mass on Sundays, they start to feel like all of the time.

[@MayonnaiseVenusaur]

@Leon Schuring no

[@rssarcade]

Good point. That is exactly what the liturgical revolution did in the 1960's. I am glad you are against the liturgical changes of the 1960s.

[@bobandkelly]

Hi Father. Speaking as a pretty fresh (last May) secular Fransican, I think I understand your point, that traditions are developed in and for a current culture. But what I love about our Catholic Church is it's continuity. It is all of a piece. We are all part of the church Christ founded, and some of the innovations have stripped us of the beauty, reverence and mystery of our connection with Christ. Most especially the overly casual atmosphere we find with regularity at Mass and while receiving our Lord in The Eucharist. Our worship and life in Christ should transcend the mundane, help us towards a greater unity with God and each other. Something a watered down liturgy and bromance-style Jesus can't accomplish.

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

Yes, what you say and love is great, the continuity of faith. But let's remember to distinguish between Tradition (unchangeable guidance of faith) and traditions (expressions of that faith). Clinging to the latter and making that the essence of our faith is a form of idolatry. The faith does not change, but the expressions do.

[@bobandkelly]

@@BreakingInTheHabit I probably didn't express myself fully in an attempt to be succinct. I am so grateful that both ways are open to us: loving and practicing older traditions (small t) as well as the new. I can't say from where everyone's intentions spring, but the commenters here and those I know in life love the older traditions because of their love for God and the Church, not just for it's own sake and certainly not as a form of idolatry. I am blessed to be a part of a beautiful Francisan chapter that brings together people from all parts of the tradition spectrum. Because of our love for one another and a wonderful group of Friars to guide us, we do just fine. I still love the Latin Mass and go if I can, but appreciate wherever I am planted.

[@TrueCorventus]

Sir, you have a very worldy view of Catholic tradition. Just compare the numbers of people leaving the church post vatican 2 and the growing numbers of pre vatican 2 / traditional churches. They are on the rise for a reason. One way moves you away from grace, the other fills you with it. God bless.

[@adventureinallthings]

This view is repeated often and is absurd, the wider world changed in the later part of the 20th century , most probably in reaction to the devastation of 2 world wars and a great depression in between. These were big factors, not to mention smaller ones that the church is only now coming to terms with. Life in general in the west became less simple.. The invention of TV alone probably had a bigger impact on falling church attendance ( distraction ) than anything that happened at Vatican 2. You guys keep running with the same old ball not realising you ran out of the field of play 🙄

[@TrueCorventus]

@@adventureinallthings Except that in the 1950's, Catholics in the USA were witnesses that the culture was going towards catholicism. With tv shows like with Venerable Fulton Sheen, movies, etc. that were at the time. Catholics at that time thought that all of america was going to become Catholic, but with the new changes and the plot of streaming homosexual men at the semanaries, thats what really made so many people lose the faith over the years. And yet, as I already said, the numbers of faithfuls all over the world are rising to pre vatican two churches. Hopefully you will one day know what is grace, and only then truly understand this. May the Lord guide you to this.

[@adventureinallthings]

@@TrueCorventus much and all as I admire and enjoy Fulton Sheen, all you have there is a theory about how things would have been. Sure, the kingdom of God was about to break out on earth in 1955 if it wasn't for those pesky kids and their rock and roll. This worldview of yours is so restricted , it's hardly catholic at all. The fact you assume the stranger talking to you could never have experienced Grace ( because you of course know who receives it right ? ) is an indication of just how deluded you are🙄

[@TrueCorventus]

@@adventureinallthings Thanks for sharing your opinion. Never forget though, that the only way to go to heaven is dying in a state of grace. God bless.

[@adventureinallthings]

@@TrueCorventus I don't know why you felt it necessary to share with me such basic Catholism 101 about dying in state of grace, well aware of it , made my first holy communion and confirmation more than 35 years ago now, had not forgotten ! 🙄, Anyway you still have not countered my argument. The eastern orthodox churches had full churches back in the 1950s and they changed nothing yet still had the same fall in numbers. Even in non Christian countries that experienced modernity since the 60s like Japan people turned away from religion. You just don't understand that correlation does not mean causation but like the man with the proverbial hammer that see everything as a nail you keep running out that theory even when it fails to match the data. But it's easy to understand so you just keep repeating it, and by continually talking to people that also repeat it, a false notion becomes a belief of its own. You are tilting at windmills !

[@flisom]

Your video implies tradition is static which it is not. A tradition that lasted a 1000 years will be different from when it started. I agree that bringing back old traditions is really creating a new traditions but I believe you may be missing an important point. Bringing back the Latin Mass and cassocks is a way to reaffirm the Catholic faith as passed down from Christ by Holy Scripture and Catholic, capital T, Tradition. I hope all Catholics believe that Tradition should never change.

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

I this video is implying the exact *opposite*! The whole point of the video is to show that traditions are not static, that they are interpreted within the context that lives them.

[@flisom]

Breaking In The Habit the title Bringing Back Old Traditions seems to imply those traditions were static since your point is they can never be as before if brought back today. For me, a priests in a cassock doesn’t tell me he’s adhering to some old tradition, but it does tell me that he is very likely to adhere to Catholic Tradition. To your point when all priests wore cassocks that would not have been the case.

[@splashpont]

@@flisom I remember a candidate was choosing the Conventual Franciscans because their habit, like cassocks, are black and thus slimming.

[@Davide_Zanoni]

Thank you Father. I mostly liked the link between tradition and the context. It helped me to see the whole thing under a different light. Thank you again, may you have a good day.

[@lbd354]

Davide - hope you are well. Please read some more comments hear as the lovely Father got a few misunderstandings in the video about the purpose of traditions in the Catholic faith. Take care, L

[@Marco85111]

@@lbd354 or maybe they are wrong and father is right? Popular opinion isn't always right neither is taylor marshall

[@lbd354]

Epic Style - thanks Mr. Style, or may I call you Epic? Your comment is fine but seems unsure and lukewarm-ish by using “maybe”. Hope you are happy with life. There are a lot of maybes in this life. In this case we don’t have maybes because somethings are not opinions. I know this because Father represented my position in this video and it surprised me because I know that nobody (maybe😉) who practises Catholic traditions faithfully is doing it out of some sort of nostalgic fanship of a bygone age. Check out Brad S....(forget his name’s) reply on these comments. Brad said it better than I. I also don’t think that there is such a thing as a distinct traditional Catholic because things are either Catholic or not. I am not a Taylor Marshall worshiper because I prefer Jesus but I know what types you mean and I get that point. That is why I simply asked Davide to look at the weight of opposing comments and consider that the Father could be wrong (which I happen to know he is because I practise Catholic traditions for purpose and teaching reasons to get close to Jesus and not to get a feeling of meaning). Consensus does not equal fact but merits investigation and an open mind. I wish you well Epic and may I suggest if you ever have kids you name them “Allotta” and “Great”😉. Now I heard someone said something crazy about the earth being a round ball and not flat!!! that I got to look up....so catch ya later. I will pray for you. L 😀

[@lbd354]

Epic Style - that guys name is Brad Schepisi. He made a great comment on this video and he has a nice few videos himself his KZbin channel.

[@bonniemelielo5446]

I understand your point, which is well taken. I veil for Him, for the Real Presence as opposed to pre VII when it was required. :-)

[@reneegardiner3020]

Right there with you Bonnie.

[@mikemorales4855]

I think of the changes brought on by Vatican II. They were so radical as to make the Real Presence be accepted today by barely a third of practicing Catholics. The loss of so many vocations, the billions spent on paying for abusive priests and the loss of our leaders ability to forcefully defend the values of our faith. Radical change is sometimes more deadly than returning to the practices that were fundamental to the faith.

[@bonniemelielo5446]

@Jacob San Nicolas not since 1983 , which for me isn't so long ago ;-)

[@bonniemelielo5446]

@Jacob San Nicolas Men, in a church or outside a church, while they are assisting at sacred rites, shall be bare-headed, unless the approved mores of the people or peculiar circumstances of things determine otherwise; women, however, shall have a covered head and be modestly dressed, especially when they approach the table of the Lord.” 1917 Code of Canon Law pre VII :-) In the 1970s there was a judgment issued by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in a document titled Inter Insigniores that basically stated that since chapel veils were not a matter of faith, it was no longer mandatory for women to wear them. and it was made official in the Code of Canon Law 1983

[@adventureinallthings]

@@mikemorales4855 watching church militant much Mike ???🙄 Just because they report accurately on some things does not mean everything they say is right, probably 65% of what they say is just not factual. They tell a truth and then spin two lies behind it. Not on purpose, they are sincere, just sincerely WRONG !!

[@0333Gus]

I don't think most traditionalist Catholics would necessarily disagree. Most acknowledge the 'Latin' masses said today were markedly different to those of our grandparents (our priest in my parish explained that his Latin masses were longer than those back in the 60s because times had changed). From my experience, priests that say the Latin mass more aware of the times than those that don't and seem to be stuck in the 70s. Arguably the Latin mass is appealing (amongst other reasons) is precisely because it has become counter cultural, the equivalent of giving the middle finger to the sterile, consumerist and nihilistic society we live in.

[@Slovakson1]

As someone with an MA in Anthropology, Im very impressed. Thanks for putting things into context Fr..

[@belleobscurytee]

I cannot speak for others, but in my view the older traditions more clearly expressed their depth of meaning. Even in their nativity they demonstrated a spirit of transcendence and timelessness. Take Gregorian chant for example: It was just as strange in the 10th century as it is today. Chant wasn't the folk music of the day, just as it isn't now. Rather, it was developed with the express purpose of liturgical worship. Thus it has a timeless quality to it which allows people of all generations to recognize it for what it is: worship. In the past several decades people have tried making more modern church music; fashioning it in the style of contemporary music. The unfortunate consequence being that it is going to always feel like a cheap imitation of music more than a genuine form of worship.

[@annettea4334]

Would you say then that Vivaldi's Gloria has less depth of meaning than Gregorian chant? And that Ariel Ramírez' Misa Criolla is far, far more superficial spiritually than Gregorian chant? Or Vivaldi for that matter.

[@rebeccaanderson5626]

@@annettea4334 The modern catholic churches is crap . The second Vatican council clearly represents the demonic forces in god's institution .

[@annettea4334]

@@rebeccaanderson5626 Vivaldi's hardly circa Vatican II

[@johnvictorroderos8842]

@@rebeccaanderson5626 YOUR modern Catholic Churches are crap. YOUR perspective of Catholicism is not THE defintion of Catholicism for others. In my country there are many modern Churches that are "traditional" looking and are pleasant to the eye. Practice humility and see reason

[@rebeccaanderson5626]

@@johnvictorroderos8842 I don't follow Latin rite anymore ! Peace ✌️🕊️ Amazing how time changes everything

[@jeanneamato8278]

I totally get your point. That said, I love Latin and I especially love Gregorian chants. Peaceful, contemplative, and they make my heart soar in a gentle way. Rock on with Hildegard of Bingen.

[@arthurguillaume5977]

Wow, are you getting beat up or what? I'll just say this... the recent polls showing lack of belief in the real presence in the Eucharist are a testament to the lack of respect shown by Vatican II changes to the handling of the Eucharist. I contend that only consecrated hands should touch the body and blood of Christ, people should kneel ( at an alter railing) to receive and only on the tongue. People then may begin to realize how special this gift truly is. Enjoy your feedback.

[@xp_studios7804]

Correlation does not equal causation. I agree with you on how communion should be received, but calling it irreverent is unfounded

[@carloscodinha4576]

Which polls?

[@justinjustinjustin10]

XP_Studios agreed. Just cause the tongue may be mor reverent (I can maybe admit that), doesn't mean the hands is IRREVERENT. the lack of proper catechesis is the main culprit here. People are clearly not educated on doctrine and teaching. An agnostic or atheist of fallen away catholic left because they didn't know any better. They don't give a jack squat (at this point) about hand vs tongue or Vatican 2. Doesn't mean squat to them. Vat 2 wasn't even the problem, it was the spirit of Vatican 2 that people skewed and took to far which was not the intent of the council

[@hrvojeabrahammilicevic7844]

Wait... But didn't the "V2 recover the 'old and lost traditions'" (or should I say false antiquarianisms)? I am confused now...

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

No. As I said in the video, it is impossible to recover old and lost traditions in their entirety. One can (and they did) recover the literal actions, but no one can ever recover what the original tradition meant or its place in the Church. It will always take on a different character in a new time, just as those things do today. They were not instituted because the Church wanted old things; they were instituted because they best expressed the faith that we have today.

[@seriouscat2231]

The faith... or lack thereof.

[@mrs.smilson5463]

Dearest Father you have a lot to learn it is all about giving God Almighty the respect and reverence that he deserves. It's not called the Mass of all time for nothing. I will pray for you to grow in wisdom and thank you for answering your call to the priesthood.

[@sissybrooks8588]

Is he a priest, really? How would we know?

[@mongoose1628]

@@sissybrooks8588 he is. he was first just a friar, then became a priest also, I think he's the Catholic chaplain of a university in Georgia. Just very modernist.

[@brattytrist]

@@sissybrooks8588 he is an ordained priest. In fact, his ordination is documented on this channel. I've also seen in other threads you're somehow questioning whether or not he's a Franciscan. It's mind boggling to me. I recommend you seek out his video on different theological views within the charism itself.

[@sissybrooks8588]

@@brattytrist I am well acquainted with the various charisms of the Franciscan orders. . And I am sorry, but I do not take a KZbin video as evidence of anything. It looked a little iffy to me. There have been several things that. he has said that are very problematic. Not that that's not new, but, he is attacking the Faith in subtle ways. Something is off.

[@sissybrooks8588]

@@mongoose1628 is that a fact? Which order? Where is it located? Who are his superiors? We need to vet this guy. The information is too vague. . That should be a red flag. God forbid he's teaching anywhere. How could a person that young even have enough education to teach at a Community college, let alone a seminary or formation.

[@michaelasmitty]

Strongly agree. I had a priest who studies Islam in Cairo that Catholicism, especially across the various rights, is highly cultural. And that deepened his love for the Church and the Roman rite. We are not a static or stationary faith, nor should we be.

[@EvanLax95]

Father, respectfully, I think you are missing some of the main reasons why so many young Catholics seek to hold onto these traditions. There is something to be said that so many young people yearn and long for that reverence and mysterious beauty

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

I'm not missing the point at all. The fact that I understand why young Catholics seek these traditions is the very reason for the video: they seek them for different reasons than the traditions were initially intended. AND THAT'S GREAT! That is why the traditions will be made new! These things existed in a time but they fell away because they no longer spoke to people of faith. But now, with a different perspective, they are being recovered because they express the faith that people have. They are not the old traditions, but rather new traditions using the old material. That's wonderful, and the whole point of the video!

[@robertesch3851]

@@BreakingInTheHabit I applaud your taking so much time to respond, respectfully, thoughtfully, to so many of your followers here. What a fine priest you appear to be! Wishing you joy and success in your ministry.

[@gregschratz4648]

Fr. Casey: *posts an intellectual, thought provoking video* The comment section: a dumpster fire

[@catnhat1117]

I'm really enjoying reading these comments. Some interesting discussions in here & some very thoughtful people!

[@williampotter7572]

We should make clear the distinction between "The Tradition" ie. The deposit of faith, and "traditions" which are human.

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

Is there any question in the matter? I though it was pretty clear that I was speaking solely of expressions of faith (traditions) in this video, not the unchangeable deposit of faith itself (Tradition).

[@williampotter1004]

@@BreakingInTheHabit I was thinking ahead about how to communicate these ideas clearly with other people in situations where the full context, such as in your video is not quite as clear.

[@multismashify]

@@BreakingInTheHabit Truthfully, Father, you could've been clearer on this point.

[@maple1212]

The sign of peace is probably one of those traditions that should not have been brought back.

[@lauriedreier5492]

This 65 year old pre Vat II Catholic loves the point you are making here! Nothing wrong with the old in and of itself, but it isn't going to be the same.

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

Thanks! And I hope you can see, as well, that some things that were old (and maybe bad) can be reintroduced today with a completely different purpose and actually be quite good.

[@lauriedreier5492]

@@BreakingInTheHabit That is right!

[@bradleymarquette6224]

This is one of the best explainations of tradition in our postmodern era that I have come across. You're becoming quite a well developed thinker, Father. I am always interested in hearing what you have to say, about our church and our modern society in general.

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

Just to be clear, though, I'm not talking about Tradition (capital T, representing the unchanging faith that serves as the foundation of all that we do). This video is about traditions (lowercase t, the expression of that faith that changes and grows over time.)

[@bradleymarquette6224]

@@BreakingInTheHabit Definitely so. I think your video made for a great distinction in that regard. Many conflate the two, but you did a really good job at exploring tradition with a lowercase "t". Solid content.

[@johnm5928]

Fr - While I often do not agree entirely with your flavor of theology, I must say that you make a good point in this video. And I'm a Latin Mass goer. Your point was that many times we try to reintroduce a tradition that was lost at some point, and we don't, or can't, bring back the whole context surrounding that environment in which the tradition too root. I agree whole-heartedly, and as a conservative Catholic, it actually really bothers me when fellow TLM-ers insist on "archaism". I think it would be helpful though if you put forward some examples of what you're talking about. Also, I would add that many traditions are worth reviving, and along with them, the context in which they thrived. I do not think that simply because the tradition existed in time past does not mean that we cannot inherit the tradition along with the context that nurtured it. In fact, we are commanded by scripture - are we not? - to "hold fast to traditions." Perhaps a better thesis statement might be that if we cannot discover and be edified by the historical context of a tradition, to reintroduce it is not a worthy endeavor.

[@JohnVianneyPatron]

Man cannot step into the same river twice!

[@luluq01]

Wow Father Casey, I am a little shocked at some of the comments left here. I say “Well Done”. I have no trouble understanding exactly what you mean in word and spirit. Please remain confident and know that you are an invaluable source to many of us. Thank you for your evangelization

[@lbd354]

luluq01 - hope you are well. The comments here are very good and well meaning but just pointing out to the great Fr. Casey that he has a misunderstanding of what tradition is. Nobody seems to misunderstand his video at all. Sure that’s always good isn’t it? I would like to me told if I got something wrong. Take care, L

[@luluq01]

Louis B. Davis Thank you for your comment. There is absolutely no impartial or concrete evidence that Father Casey has had a misunderstanding at all. However, I am not the spokesperson for Father Casey who is very eloquent and better versed than me. I believe it is his right to either respond himself or abstain from commenting. I thank you for your participation in his videos which I find an incredible resource and for which I am very grateful. I wish you well and ask for God’s blessing on you and all of us who are part of his beloved Church. Thank you.

[@WordsPictures997]

Fr. Casey, you are such a great thinker and communicator. Thank you so much for this.

[@jeremylukedominicbate7482]

'The Church shouldn't be a museum', I've heard that before. We are not so different from our ancestors, they had all our intelligence and wisdom, and a lot more besides. Personally I turn to the early saints for guidance, and their ways are just as relevant today, but only to those who haven't conformed to the modernist world, who act as if the current times are an excuse to sin.

[@slowroastedmarshmallow9226]

Right! It is so infuriating when broods of vipers want to strip away all that makes our Faith Real and Lived...Lauging at those who love TLM, one year calendar, Novenas / Rosary, Sacramentals. Their "brilliant" idea is to claim it was for olden bygone days and people today don't need to be so Rigid...Funny how these very same people turn St. Peters into a Museum where Living Faith is Banished, an idol to demons gets the "green pass" however!

[@timothycardoso1364]

I love you much Fr Casey. Every video you've put out really speaks to me. I just have something to add to this one. I am a Diocesan priest and have been a priest for nearly 40 years. Not that it really is that big a deal but cassocks are very easy to come by. Any religious goods store that sells items for the liturgy such as vestments will have off the rack cassocks to purchase. Many priests who use the cassock might prefer to have them made to fit. I have been thin all my life and clerical shirts and standard cassocks fit me like a sack so I have the cassock made for me when I need to and I have to have my clerical shirts altered at the waist. Anyway I just thought I'd share this info with you. Again I appreciate so much everything that you do and share with us and I pray God continue to bless you with a wonderful intellect and generous heart.

[@NonpositiveTM]

Nope. A tradition has an intrinsic value and meaning that communicates a truth which is not frozen in some time period. The irony here is that you yourself are creating definition of tradition that is sheer novelty. Tradition is not as anthropocentric as you make it seem. Such a definition and mindset towards traditions opens the door to all sort of destruction and discarding of sacred things. Let's get some things out of the way: The sign of peace, as you see it in the Novus Ordo, is a complete novelty. Something called a pax board existed in some places and it was passed around so people could kiss it. But people shaking each others hands and greeting each other in the liturgy as we see it today never existed. Secondly, Vernacular was not "lost" as the natural development of the liturgy is to produce a liturgical language. Third, there is something called "antiquarianism" which seeks to revive objectively inferior ancient liturgical practices under a false assumption that they were superior or even something worthy of bringing back (which neglects legitimate development). This concept was condemned by Pope Pius XII. Attempting to revive a so-called "tradition" from an ancient time can be antiquarianism as it rejects legitimate liturgical development. And let's say we have some sort of spirit of novelty that sweeps through the Church and pushed for those in charge to butcher legitimate, superior traditions in favor of novelty or antiquarian behavior - this is exactly what happened in the 1960s. Further, you cannot characterize all traditions within a certain time period - this is historcisim and simplistic thinking. The recovery of the cassock's real goal is to implement it as normative and to show that a priest has a vocation - to take him out of this world. This is the meaning of the cassock. There is no different meaning now when compared to the past - you conveniently left out defining what people think of the cassock today compared to the past beyond "symbol of traditionalism." Many folks have been seeing priests in cassocks for years as well as non-cassocks, and guess what? A lot of people view them as normal and perceive them in their proper context as it was before Vatican II - that is entirely the point about restoring legitimate traditions. Such a board generalizations you paint over the perceptions of certain people. And there is no such thing as a "new tradition" - that is an idiotic phrase. Tradition is bread organically and it takes centuries to grow and be classified as such - there is no such thing as a "new tradition" because you cannot identify what is going to organically grow and mature well after you are dead. Finally, your title says you can't bring back old traditions, but literally in the first one minute you said Vatican II brought back old traditions. Again, tradition is *not* the world it was attached to, it retains **intrinsic meaning** that people can understand in the present (unless one wants to make stuff up like the sign of peace or the offertory procession). People are not so stupid as to not be able to understand traditional things. This is the attitude that got us in this mess: people are idiots, let's knock everything down and rebuild it so they understand.

[@GlobalCooldownxx]

E x a c t l y this!

[@1907jdee]

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@lbd354]

Dr. Nope- Thanks for this. This great guy in the video means well and needs support and prayers. You are very knowledgeable. The key word you used for me was “novelty”. I was so surprised and confused how fashion was used to compare??? I mean traditions (even small ones) have purpose and teaching and are not there to emote feelings of meaning... am I wrong? A lovely example is the direction of ones genuflection; to an alter with no tabernacle = no....and yet some daily Holy Mass goers do this all the time. This tradition (done correctly on the right knee (not left) towards a tabernacle with the sanctuary light lit) tells people where Jesus is, that He is present and that he is our God. That is an example why people are practicing traditions. Pax L

[@lbd354]

nOPE - you must talk a lot but good stuff.🙂

[@bobandkelly]

Well said, well said.

[@christinef.5515]

I was a fallen away Catholic. Post V2 church was a vast spiritual emptiness for me. I came back to the Traditional Latin Mass which is and has always been the Mass of the Ages. Ever ancient ever new. This is the Mass that made saints.

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

Technically the Latin Mass (also known as the Tridentine Mass) is from 1570. It has elements that are older than that, but it is hardly "the mass of the ages." It is a representation of medieval theology and European spirituality. There is undoubtedly beauty to it, but it is anything but a universal expression of our faith.

[@justiniand6a788]

@@BreakingInTheHabit , the thing though is that there was never any one liturgy that represented the faith universally. The same is the case with the Novus Ordo. Each of the rites of the Church carry a certain flavor to them coming from their respective traditions.

[@bdjoliat]

@@BreakingInTheHabit The Mass of all time does NOT date from 1570. That is the year that it was codified so that it couldn’t be changed by individuals or certain communities, as Martin Luther and Cranmer had just done. Parts of the Mass are from as far back as the life of St. Augustine (4th cent), as seen from his writings, and other parts are from the time of St. Gregory the Great (6th cent). Other sections are from the Apostolic era. As Benedict XVI said, the NO most closely resembles a “banal on the spot” mishmash, which was literally written on the back of a cocktail napkin in a Roman trattoria. If you can get a basic fact wrong, it certainly doesn’t help your credibility.

[@nonameronin1]

A beautiful message Fr. Casey. Thank you for sharing it ♥️.

[@etclamoradteveniat]

2. Thessalonians 2:15... St Paul says this: "so then, brothers stand firm and hold to the Traditions that you were taught by us, either by spoken word or by our letter." Tradition is what made the Church what it is today.

[@edsaintlouis9686]

2 Thessalonians 2:15 So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us.

[@jamchiell]

Thank you Father Casey. I don't think you're misinterpreting anything. When we bring back older traditions, we are not going back to a time of old but a time of new and renewal. We must also understand why certain traditions worked then and what they can bring today.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

Sooner or later the Church returns to her traditions.

[@heritageliturgical2257]

yes George, or it just ceases to exist. That is an option, too, sadly.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@@heritageliturgical2257 Not possible. Jesus promised to stay with His Church until He returns. There will always be a Catholic Church. If only two Catholics were left on earth one of them would have to be the pope.

[@ES-kq5fh]

@@GeorgePenton-np9rh sure. But that doesn't mean the church will magically continue to exist in real terms -- North Africa, Middle East, China, Japan, France, Sweden, England... all countries where the Church for all intents and purposes does not exist.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@@ES-kq5fh Actually,ES, the Church has a presence in all of those places, except Saudi Arabia. In England, on any given Sunday, more people attend Catholic Mass than attend Church of England services. Had the Second Vatican Council not been called, and had the liturgy never been changed, and had the Church never participated in the ecumenical movement, we may have converted 90% of the world's Protestants now. In the last 50 years mainline Protestantism has declined in numbers even more than the Catholic Church has. "The calling of the Second Vatican Council was the worst mistake in history." ---Cardinal Giuseppe Siri

[@ES-kq5fh]

@@GeorgePenton-np9rh I think your view of the curve of history is a bit different than mine. To me, "having a presence" is neither the question nor the standard. Territories aren't promised God, and they certainly aren't promised "the church". Entire swaths of earth used to be bustling centers of Catholicism, and are today but dust, ruins, and forgotten relics. The "Roman Church" used to transmit its traditions to the next generation of clergy and faithful, in a faith virtually unchanged since the first days. And those days. Are. Over. The Roman Church as such has ceased to exist. Like... a LONG time ago. This young gentleman is right in a way -- once they're able to snap the line of transmission of traditions, it's impossible to get them back to either what they were or what they were meant for. THIS IS PRECISELY why they broke the back of the Church, and built a tent city over her magnificent ruins. There IS of course a mystical promise of "a church always existing", but that doesn't mean a single man on earth has to be left quoting a catechism. For all intents and purposes, like in the mideast, like in North Africa, like in Europe, the Church and the faith CAN DISAPPEAR. And it has.

[@GwynEllisHughes]

Ad orientem NEEDS to be renewed in ALL churches. It's not rude to have his back to the congregation, after all, he's leading us ALL to calvary.

[@Paterquia]

So we can't recover the timeless traditions that were chucked out after VII? It's been 60 years since that council and it's too late? You need to gain wisdom before you start defining terms and making dogmatic statements regarding traditions and their meanings through time Father.

[@joerivera8923]

And He said to them, "Therefore every scribe who has been trained for the kingdom of heaven is like the master of a household who brings out of his treasure what is new and what is old" Matthew 13:52 RSV

[@hulsfamcalcan]

If you can wear the habit, why can’t diocesan seminarians wear the cassock? Are you recovering the past or starting something new by wearing the cassock. I was an OFM for 7 years and remember being told off by an old nun for “wearing that monkey suite.” Back in the 80’s the franks didn’t wear their habits unless it was for chapter or a Visitation. In the 80’s you couldn’t get them into the habit. Now you can’t get them out of their habits. Don’t judge these young guys: you might just be wrong.

[@splashpont]

I think he knows that he's a rare one who wears the brown often. His reasoning is not because "it is the thing to do" like the habits and cassocks of the 50s.

[@crose7974]

In certain diocese Priests are returning to wear their cassocks!

[@abbajim]

I wish you would have given some examples. My church still has benediction and we sing the hymns in Latin and it is one of the most beautiful thing I’ve ever experienced. It’s a Dominican church and is always packed with the faithful. People long for stability in faith and a connection to those who came before us.

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

That's great! I'm not saying anything negative about any of those things. All I'm saying is that those traditions means something different today than long ago when people actually spoke Latin, when the songs for benediction were first written. Old things can be great, not because they are old, but because they have meaning to us TODAY.

[@abbajim]

Breaking In The Habit thanks father I appreciate deeply all you do for our church. My newly discovered faith means everything to me ,having only discovered these traditions recently after being lead to the Dominican friars in New York, and I truly believe that they would bring many people back to the church.

[@dianneambrose129]

I agree. When brining back a old manner that is meaningful to us or to the religious then it is helpful. The Franciscan Sisters state that the young women coming in today want to wear a habit. They want to show their faith to the world and hopefully draw people closer to the Catholic Church.

Dear Father Casey, I've watched all of your videos and I look forward to each new one. I think I grow ever so slightly with each video. (I've even thought of finding someone who could tutor me about your church.) All that is in service of asking you to not have background music while you are speaking. I makes it harder to follow you, even harder to hear you, and for me it detracts from my focus on your teaching. I would never bother to make this comment on any other channel I follow, but being able to focus entirely on your teaching is important to me. Thank you for making your videos and keeping your channel going; it's a good part of my life. John

[@kalel0192]

This view is quite misguided as it's only telling half the story. There's quite a difference between restoring what was before there were sweeping changes in the blink of an eye within the context of the history of the church, and antiquarianism. Your argument is tacit approval of all the well-known issues with how the second Vatican council operated and implemented sweeping changes by accepting them to the point that restoring what was instantaneously destroyed is somehow misguided.

[@donniewillson6967]

Breaking in The Habit, God Bless you Father in your good work making these videos but have compassion on us older folks who find it hard to adapt to all these changes.

[@rscottlogan9471]

Donnie Willson lol

[@j.k.6865]

Your videos are very beneficial to me. Thanks a lot Father!

[@donniewillson6967]

@Breaking In The Habit, Father Casey, May God Bless and guide you in your work making these informative videos. I am sorry that so many people atacked you for this video, and I don't see any of the things they are accusing you of. I am 66 years old so I received most of my Catholic formation prior to the changes of the early 70's. Therefore I still kneel and receive communion on the tongue and only from a preist but I have no beef with others receiving the Holy Sacrament in the hand from any Tom, Dick, or Harry while standing. I only ask that those of us who are older and set in our ways be shown compassion. In San Francisco, at the Cathedral of Saint Mary of the Assumption, a priest told me to "stand up, put your tongue in your mouth and stick out your hand, or leave the communion line because we don't do that old stuff anymore." Needless to say I felt humiliated and left the church. I went down the street to Saint Boniface, a church served by Franciscans in a poor, mostly Vietnamese and Latino neighborhood, which still has the communion rail. Some people kneel and receive on the tongue and some receive standing and in the hand. The Church is for all of God's children and there should be room for both Modernists and Traditionalists.

[@nickkraw1]

Women veiling in church is not a tradition. It is scriptural, and St Paul lays it out, tbh quite aggressively. Forgive the pun, but there is no veiled language. He’s very clear and there’s nothing to interpret away with context. It’s also a modesty issue. Women’s hair is very, very beautiful to men. In a mass where everyone is standing and facing the same direction and you see the back of everyone in front of you, seeing veils instead of gorgeous women’s hair while a man is trying to observe the altar or the tabernacle without distraction is very helpful, and that’s exactly what St Paul gets at when he describes woman’s hair as her glory, for it is glorious indeed.

[@lynncw9202]

That is what Muslim men say and why Muslim women wear the hijab !!

[@splashpont]

St Paul also says that women should not speak in church. If that were so, there would be no parishes.

[@nickkraw1]

@@splashpont They shouldn't. It is inappropriate to have a female reader in mass, and before the 1960s, there never were female readers in mass. This isn't tradition to be interpreted and applied by cultures, it is scriptural. Scripture cannot be defied, it is inspired by the Holy Spirit. There is nothing to interpret here, it is not proper to the feminine principle for a woman to read during the Liturgy. Outside of the Liturgy, by all means, I am all for female Catholic speakers. I think Emily Wilson is wonderful, for example. But not during Liturgy. The reasons for this are similar. On a bell curve, men are simply naturally perceived with greater authority than women. If you don't agree, you're simply wrong and you can take it up with psychology and sociology. Men are also far more enthralled by female beauty than women are with male beauty, for as St Paul says, is woman not the glory of man? Therefore, if there are some young, continent, struggling men in the pews, sending a beautiful girl up in front of them all to read is a terrible idea. You think demons won't exploit that? If they want to have custody of their eyes and avoid the near occasion of sin, they shall all have to look away or stare off into space intently. There are several reasons why a female reader isn't as appropriate as a male reader, but there are no reasons why a female reader is more appropriate than a male reader. We should heed the words of St Paul in scripture, and stop trying to explain things that we don't like away as if we were protestants. Trying to fabricate some elaborate context about the audience St Paul was writing to in order to justify unveiled women in church and female readers is no different that protestants trying to explain away Jesus' words when He said that those who eat of His true flesh and drink His true blood shall inherit eternal life. The text is clear, and there is no special nuance. Set aside your pride and veil before Christ's physical presence if you are female and uncover your head if you are male.

[@lynncw9202]

@johnny bhai but that's what I mean. Do we want to be like them. Surely not!!

[@lynncw9202]

@@nickkraw1 oh my word!! Talk about being in the dark ages. Men are more appropriate than women to read. And men can't be in church watching a pretty woman without being distracted. Then CONTROL yourself. If you can't then YOU are the inappropriate one, not women. God loves women as much as men and I'm sure he woukd have wanted women to read the epistles too. I disagree with women priests but females reading in mass? ... Well done, girls. Keep it up!!

[@metasequoiaglyptos]

Well said, Fr Casey! Thanks a lot (: I was kind of caught in between friends who veil and friends who don't. Now i have better clarity.

[@nickl4855]

I agree with you that the intentions behind doing something new and starting a tradition is entirely different than doing something old and reinstituting a tradition. That said, the intent behind the two can be similar. Sure cassocks used to be standard order, but they still had a statement inasmuch as they were instituted by the Church for a specific purpose. In instituting cassocks, the pope and cardinals and bishops embodied that intent and purpose which was picked up by all priests out of obedience regardless of if they agreed with the intent. Now-a-days, each priest who chooses a cassock has to have their own personal intent. While some may choose it simply for its traditional trappings, I think you will find that many do it because they share the same intent as the clergy of old who institute it. Sure, they didn't come up with it on their own, but they agree with what it stood for and use it to show that it is what they still stand for. Personally, I believe one should not strive to be traditional or progressive as their Catholic identity. Be Catholic foremost and live that to your best ability in your actions and all that you do and the world will be quick to compartmentalize you into either group. Strive for God and for orthodox Catholicism and use traditions or lack thereof as the means to your end goal of Heaven. Traditions as an end unto itself and progressivism as an ends unto itself are idolatry.

[@pipsasqeak820]

The Orthodox haven't had any modern liturgical reform yet they still have a massive faithful flock and its growing, the reason we want to bring these traditions back is because we want the reverence and care back in the church. A guitar mass with a kumbaya sing alone is no way to treat the Eucharist. Why is it so problematic to bring back the old? the NO nowadays looks no different from a lutherean service or anlgican one

[@Lifesallgoood]

I'd rather have a guitar mass with Kumbaya then a church where people seem to have a stick up their arse.

[@pgsantoyo]

This also does not follow the present day definition of "tradition", that which was handed down. In a case of bizarre, but now unsurprising dissimulation, the friar makes the case that tradition is only possible because it is fundamentally rooted in the capacity for novelty. This is inconsistent with the respect that traditionalists have with the passing on of what was passed to us. There is a distinction between a vestment, a liturgy, a prayer, a devotion coming to perfection in time vs coming up with new customs and passing them on and calling the latter dynamic equivalent with the former.

[@pirenet]

You are repeating yourself a lot .it would be better to pick specific traditions like the cassock explore their origin and follow its history... just a thought

[@norbusganklepuss68]

What Casey says about the cassock is wrong. I live in central London, and the high Anglican priests at St. Bartholomew's in Smithfields, Holy Redeemer in Exmouth Market, and St. Marks in Islington all wear cassocks. If all those priests are wearing it, they can't be that hard to get hold of.

[@pgsantoyo]

Norbus Ganklepuss I agree, I live in NJ, USA, and just bought one a few weeks ago (learning to serve TLM). It’s not that hard at all.

[@maxmeldrum3631]

I’m a LA (lay assistant) at my church and I love wearing the cassock but am thinking to wear the cassock all the time, outside the church service but unsure if allowed too. Could someone help

[@thebestisyettocome4114]

Peace be with you ✝️

[@timothyfreeman97]

And with you, Dr. Scott Hahn.

[@lehlingbangjataidtaid5540]

Father. I am ,70 yrs old and you are the age of my youngest son l am not blaming you but I feel sorry instead.We who had experienced the Traditional services knows much better how it touches the hearts of the faithful Catholic.The prayers and the Hymns makes us feel that we are already in Heaven.Father l am sorry for you for missing all of them.But you have shown your own views ,may God bless you and keep you always at His right path Amen.

[@alhilford2345]

AMEN !

[@WashingtonDC99]

I truly love my Traditional Catholic teachings. I wish we could bring back the Traditional Latin Mass. I consider myself to be a a Conservative Traditional Catholic. God bless you. God bless, protect and guide the Catholic Church and its believers. #LatinMass.

[@pamelaguzman7516]

What is the white and black gown called when being worn by seminarians at special catholic events and celebrations ?

[@rbjmartin]

Based on the logic of this talk, I take it that the good friar is opposed to many "restored" traditions found in the Novus Ordo Mass, such as the offertory procession, the bidding prayers, communion under both species, communion in the hand, etc.

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

Did you not watch the beginning or end of the video...?

[@rbjmartin]

@@BreakingInTheHabit sorry, perhaps I read a degree of judgment into your commentary that wasn't there. You said, the "pick a century" mentality is "neither helpful nor fruitful." Yet the supposed "restoration" of those practices in the Novus Ordo would seem to fall under that criticism. It's well-documented that Bugnini's logic in adding particular practices to the Mass was because of his belief he was restoring something that was lost by error or by past misguidance. Similarly, he removed many practices of the TLM because he thought they were redundant (without any consideration for why seeming repetitions might have been intentional). In both instances, whether adding or removing, he did not have the advantage of knowing all of the historical context of why things were practiced in the past a certain way.

[@NonnaTradCat]

rbjmartin I agree with you 100%.

[@therese5361]

Finally! You start making sense, thus the bulk of the comments are against you. Hope to see more of this on your channel.

[@culturecoroner]

You know what tradition needs to return stat? Desert hermits. Hard to be too self-important when you’re by yourself in a cave. No KZbin stats to analyze. No social media. No distracting content creation to obsess over. No measuring the importance of your work in the eyes of others, nor it’s reach. How. Glorious.

[@adventureinallthings]

Well if that was true he would never have reached me and brought me home to the church. Have a think on that for a bit....

[@culturecoroner]

Leon Schuring Yes-I meant it more generally. We all need time in the desert. I trust that God will draw us into it (and Himself) when we need it the most, even if we go kicking a screaming, because we don’t see our dire need for it. 🙃 I hope Fr Casey gets some desert time soon. John the Baptist and Magdalen, pray for those of us deep in the world.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Very true and good lesson to remember, thank you.

[@richjones1049]

Hmmm...sounds like Father is trying to rationalize the catastrophe of Vatican II.

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

I honestly have no idea how you came to that. That could not be further away from the point of this video.

[@suburbancatholic5010]

*Insert "That's where your wrong kiddo" meme*

[@GlobalCooldownxx]

Yikes....uh....just no.

[@IpCrackle]

Your comment about how traditions are informed by cultural contexts is a valid one. But I would still argue - not every aspect of a religious tradition is reducible to that culture. Specifically because these traditions were utilized to communicate something about the faith, it is on this level of faith that they are still accessible, regardless of time or place. Take, for example, the tradition of genuflection before the blessed sacrament upon the left knee. Few people know that this is an appropriation from medieval custom towards kings, where their prostration was done in such a way as to cut off access to the sword at their belt, thus totally being at the mercy of their superior. But the beauty is: one doesn’t have to know this. It is certainly enriching to know that is where it comes from, but the essence of the tradition - that it is a symbol of reverence towards God - is still just as obvious now as it was then. When you baptize worldly things so as to communicate the eternal truths of the Gospel, you effectively immortalize their significance. they transcend their cultural context and become an icon of something much more permanent and less transient than a mere fad or cultural expression.

[@CatholicK5357]

I find it amusing that you said you have no judgement on whether traditionalist Priests are right or wrong only a few sentences after calling their efforts misguided (a judgement). I think people are forgetting what the word 'judgement' means.

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

I think you are misinterpreting my words. Take the whole point of the video together. What am I trying to say? The point is that you cannot take old traditions in their entirety and bring them back. Something will always be lost, and something new will always be introduced. Wearing the cassock today will always be different from wearing it 300 years ago, and so if someone is trying to recapture that, it is misguided. But I don't think that's what people are trying to do (and I never suggest they are.) Rather, they are starting something new: a sense of defiance against the outside world, a symbol of traditionalism, a commitment to austerity. None of those things were associated with the cassock in the past, but they are now. It is a new tradition, and I have no judgment one way or another one it. Make sense?

[@CatholicK5357]

@@BreakingInTheHabit I see what you are trying to say but honestly think that you are misguided. Many people are upset at the changes, including changes in dress of the clerics in how these have effected the Church. Going back to the old maybe counter-cultural but it is not a protest. It is trying to save the Church from errors that have slipped in to many clergy and religious. They are not bringing back something from 300 years ago but from only 50 years ago because they disagree with the novelties that have attempted to replace it. The Church is supposed to try and influence the world not be influenced by it.

[@JOSEJIMENEZ-O.SS.T.Ter.]

Some traditions build virtue and these virtues are timeless and can absolutely be brought back to mean the same thing today as they did before they were replaced. Some innovations feed vices, and those should be discarded as failed experiments. The return to tradition is often more of a hunger for substance that was lost when "the baby was thrown out with the bath water" in the changes of Vatican II.

[@undertaker9176]

I love my cassock.

[@roundduck7005]

As you should

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

Great! Just as long as you know that what you are doing is something different than what people did 300 years ago. The *meaning* of that garment has necessarily changed, and that's fine. You are making it new today.

[@undertaker9176]

Breaking In The Habit amen to that. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@LadyNikitaShark]

The patron saints of my home village are S. Peter and Our Lady of the Way (path). Until quite recently we had candle processions at nigh to simbolize her being able to help us find our path in the dark . I always had strong feelings about this tradition bc it gathered everyone and not just chatolics.

[@lvlc5]

Wow... one of the best if not the best video you've done. Specially during these time where there is an illusion of separation between "traditional and non traditional" Catholics thats becoming real.

[@benswann9444]

You are so right I was taught by nuns in habit and Christian Brothers in habit in high school. It is so important to see HABITS in public today. We live in a selfish, entitled society...I find it calming to my soul to visibly see HABITS in public.. KEEP wearing the symbols of peace and spirituality.

[@cb885]

Somebody should tell this priest that his habit is medieval.. well.. the Franciscans need reforming. =)

[@splashpont]

I think he admitted in this video (and in others) that most do not wear the habit as often as he does.

[@krdiaz8026]

The style might be medieval but the fabric and the way the habit is worn certainly aren't.

[@Marco85111]

a little bit of charity goes a long way man

[@nyamburachege7029]

Just like Police men still wear uniforms I commend religious men and women who wear the habit. I always stop to salute them "peace of Christ be with you!" In my country Kenya we salute each other "tumsifu Yesu Kristo" responce "milele na milele amina". ALL Those married men and women who do not wear their marriage ring ARE SUSPECT!

[@jesusisgod6117]

@@nyamburachege7029 : Kenya needs free healing daily live 9am and 3pm Dubai UAE time on KZbin videos by the channel JCILM INFO. God bless you

[@thebestofmae]

This is actually pretty clear! Thank you for explaining this in an understandable manner Fr. Casey.

[@matthewetzrodt8971]

Fr. Casey, I appreciate all the work you are doing for the care of the flock entrusted to you, and have been a big fan of your videos since my reversion to the faith earlier in my college career. However, I do disagree with your statement about bringing back old traditions. I, myself, am in no way a traditionalist, but I do believe that being a Catholic calls us to be counter-cultural and to share the Gospel in all that we do, think, and say, even if that means in the exhibition of "old traditions". As a college student, my peers and I at our Newman Center at the University of Pittsburgh (ran by the Pittsburgh Oratory of St. Philip Neri) have sought out to discover the vibrancy and truth of the faith that was never taught to us during our formation in our parishes and schools. Some of us have done so through re-discovery of the beauty from past traditions, including that of the use of Simple English Propers, saying Compline and the Liturgy of the Hours together, doing Holy Hours in Eucharistic Adoration, and going to Mass where Latin is used frequently, and for some, going to TLM. If you want to re-invigorate the faith among the people, especially amongst young adults and the youth, there sometimes is a necessity to show them the true and the beautiful in maintaining the sacramentality of the Mass and teaching Truth and not watered-down catechesis, even if that means reverting back to some old traditions and discovering them in a new way for some. Especially on the east coast (Northeastern US more in particular), there is a serious lack of sacramentality incorporated into the Mass and a huge prevalence of "cultural Catholics" that don't adhere to the doctrines of the faith or aren't striving to adhere to them, and are instead just "going through the motions." With this incorporation of some techniques and traditions of old, this can allow for some of the faithful to be inspired by these traditions to realize the more radical call to universal holiness, and to believe in the truth of the Church, where otherwise these Catholics would become "stagnant" and "lukewarm." I know and recognize that these traditions are not for everyone, but to some, these traditions play an important part in the development of one's spirituality, growth in one's faith, and shows the seriousness that one takes in applying and living out their faith in this world today. I do hope you consider my point of view, and take account of it should it appear in your ministry. Thanks and Pax Christi, Matt

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

Please don't miss the point of the video. I encourage you to watch it again, as some of the more notable statements (and the title) can be misleading if you don't take in the whole point. I am not saying that practices from the past cannot be brought back. I wear a medieval habit for crying out loud and have made it a central piece of my ministry! But look at what I've done. I've taken a tradition that was at one time a symbol of extreme poverty (because it was literally what the poor wore), at another time a sign of affluence and respect (the friars were the professors of universities and specialized ministers) and at another time a sign of clericalism (you were expected to respect someone who wore it). The same garment meant very different things to very different people. In wearing my habit, I am not recovering any of those things, because I don't live in any of those worlds. Rather, I wear it because I see it as a sign of evangelization, of simplicity, of modesty, of service. The same "tradition" is reappropriated into our world toady. You may like the Latin Mass, and that's fine! But remember: even though it may be the same tradition as it was 500 years ago, it has a very different purpose and experience. Before, it was the common language, it was the norm. Today, no one speaks Latin (as a first language) and it is an extreme minority. Going to the Latin Mass will never be the same experience today as it was before. It is a new statement, a new desire, a new expression of faith. Make sense?

[@matthewetzrodt8971]

Breaking In The Habit thanks for the clarification, Father, God bless!

[@TheSaraManal]

❤️ I don’t think your deep thoughts are understood by many ...

[@blue3967]

Not that I disagree or agree but this videos is badly written...