TikTok HATES this trend.. || Talent vs. skill (commentary + speedpaint)

[@BreDrawz]

Thanks for watching the video! I forgot to add the brush QR codes in this video I'm so sorry!! I'll make sure to try and remember for the next video! But anyway, I hope you enjoyed the video and make sure to comment some future video ideas if you have any!!

[@homestuckfan670]

You could make a video on how there's a line between inspiration and copying, and some artists may cross it without even knowing it's there. When I was a younger artist, I would make OCS based on my favorite media, but they would be so similar to the original you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

[@Your_mums_boobs]

As you’ve talked about some hurtful comments, could you make a video on how words like “art does get you anywhere” or “there’s no jobs for people in the art industry” like I understand it, but it can discourage a lot of blossoming artists.

[@Multifandom_fuck]

Can you do a video talking about copying ocs?! Just like the comment below

[@Gravity_Fans]

@@homestuckfan670YEYEYE! I would love that video so epic

[@stan_lego_eda]

A few years ago I was told that I should use skilled instead of talented, which I started doing, but I see both sides. Personally I don't mind either since it's well intended. I saw someone called Tsuki who made a jelly art video inspired by yours and I thought it was cool and you'd like to check it out! :)

[@Li_Rat]

TikTok art community hates on the most random things and those things don’t even make sense

[@BreDrawz]

FR.

[@organicnMechanic]

@Dusty_123 i can tell 😰

[@Sallyshome-et1nk]

It's getting annoying

[@Li_Rat]

@@guesmpwuam LITERALLY

[@Li_Rat]

@@Sallyshome-et1nk honestly

[@meowcoww]

Whenever someone would say something like, “I wish I had your talent” or “I wish I could draw like you,” I would always respond, “You can! Just pursue the hobby, putting in consistent time and effort, all you really need is a pencil and some paper. I believe in you!” And they’d instantly take it back. Some people would talk more with me about how to make a hobby out of it though, which always made me happy, especially when they stuck with it.

[@mxchelle6795]

Me too people always say ‘I wish I could draw like you ‘ and I get called talented a lot it doesn’t bother me but I always encourage people to do their dreams like creating art

[@kiwimiwi5452]

It's always the "I wish I could draw like you!" until you tell them to just put in the work. They always backtrack and say some excuse, and yep, there you go. That's why!

[@NiK0XxD]

@@kiwimiwi5452 FR, that happens to me a lot jajaja

[@bladd774]

That's the right thing to do, it's best to encourage someone who appreciate your works!

[@itsmeberry1908]

​@@kiwimiwi5452its just a complement. please take it as so instead of being a bi***

[@Bloopokuuujhh]

I feel like tiktok is just a farm for useless drama😭

[@BreDrawz]

honestly lmao

[@cloudymew]

yo, Boombox from phighting pfp!!

[@Bloopokuuujhh]

@@cloudymew We love phighting here :]

[@Ttestiingg]

​Phighting!!!! Who do you guys main?? I main slingshot!!

[@Bloopokuuujhh]

@Ttestiingg I main boombox (I think thats pretty obvious tho)

[@CookiWolf]

ive only seen the one that theyre going "Oh you're such a good *DRAWER*" And the person turns into a literal drawer with the song

[@randomgirlontheinternet1735]

Me too lmao

[@Grainofsand_gs]

You're such a talented cupboard!

[@cloudymew]

i srsly dont get why this whole thing became a hated thing lol. like, ppl have constantly told me im talented and i accept the compliment, but theres no reason to be angry at someone who's frustrated at their art being taken as "natural talent" (considering just how difficult it can be to learn art). yeah its probably annoying to some people and they want the trend dead, but thats just normal. (though i do agree that some ppl come off too angry, i wouldnt blame them as its most likely accidental)

[@abiliv-lf9tz]

Congrats Weve summarized the video Idek if its humans that started this agrument cause its so stupid Like is this anether nyquil chicken incident where it was just talked about as if people was doing it when nobody was?-

[@jaydrawz53]

it's greatly blown out of proportion, but I think it's hated now because some people were being pretentious, egotistical, and directed anger towards those who didn't even mention "talent" in their compliment. even so, there wasn't really a reason to be angry at this trend, people just like nitpicking

[@doesthisIookinfected]

tiktok artists are the type of people to get offended for being called talented for sure

[@usernameless405]

HOW DO YOU NOT GET IT???! i only wish people could actually compliment my art. i used to get so many more compliments at my old school… and i imagine how much more they’d be impressed seeing how much i’ve improved. nowadays i get nothing. absolutely nothing… if someone were to say that i would probably just say “not really natural, but ok, thanks” in a monotone voice like i usually would with anything because it DOESNT BOTHER ME. yeah yeah you can get mad about whatever you want but i just think it’s kinda stupid i think they’re overreacting honestly like MAN

[@usernameless405]

@@doesthisIookinfectedyeah

[@Amy-Mayflower]

My problem with the concept of "Talent" is that I think it puts both the person observing the art and the artist down. If an artist is Naturally predisposed to being good at art, why should others bother trying if they'll never be as good, and it also invalidates the artist, because if the artist is good naturally, that implies that they haven't worked hard to reach the point they are at.

[@justnotterxo]

THIS. THIS EXACTLY. No one comes out of the womb with talents. Can you be good at something with little effort? Yes. But does that mean you shouldn't work to improve it/haven't worked to improve it? No. Artists still work to reach the level of skill they are at. And it also makes others feel like they don't have that talent and they should just stop because they'll never be like [blank artist] which is SO NOT TRUE. Talent just kinda implies that you're just naturally good at it and aren't really putting effort into it and gives of EXTREMELY negative connotations, like it's backhanded By saying someone is just "talented" is (either unintentionally or intentionally) trying to make an artist and their followers/viewers feel bad.

[@lokasen9417]

This 100%. You've worked hard to reach your level, you should be proud of your dedication instead of having to deal with other people's fragile egos who don't want to aknowledge your efforts.

[@hvnsl]

And this is why I use the word "skill" instead of "talent" because skill implies that you practised it and worked hard.

[@bonesnpink9428]

Dude I literally don’t care, I have no problem with someone calling me talented, I am talented so why should I care if someone else calls me that? It’s a COMPLIMENT.

[@Amy-Mayflower]

@@bonesnpink9428 Everyone has their own viewpoint on it, no need to be a dickhead.

[@Wicky_Licky]

7:34 Yh my friend sometimes talks to me like “oh your art looks so good! Both of my parents are painters, but I can’t draw at all” like it’s genetic or something??? Then I try to tell her that it requires practice, but she just deflects the conversation at another topic

[@homestuckfan670]

STOP COMMENTING ON THIS POST OMG 😿😿 To be honest, I dont think anyone's really born with a talent. No one's coming out of the womb playing the guitar perfectly. Art is a skill, and you need to work to improve with it. And you have to remember that art is illustration, painting, sculpture, music, writing, etc etc.

[@artvulture456]

Talent is a real thing. Nobody is born able to draw a hyper realistic portrait for sure, but for example if someone's hands shake they're lines will be slopy, vs someone who can hold their hands very steady will have neater lines with less effort.

[@homestuckfan670]

@@artvulture456 I agree completely! The point I was trying to make was that people need practice to get to the point they are now, but some people don't understand that and they think that they were just born making art on that level. I was taking talent as just that, a masterful skill you're born with, so thank you for making me understand a little bit more lol

[@jaydrawz53]

@@artvulture456 intuition exists, but not talent, since they're the same thing

[@grob5119]

YTTD PFP SPOTTED

[@artvulture456]

@@homestuckfan670 almost nobody thinks you came out of the womb with artistic skill though

[@figuredrawing4912]

Talent is born, not made. This extends into...countless realms. From sports to singing to playing instruments to...drawing/painting/sculpting////// That said, a lack of talent has not stopped countless people from becoming GREAT ARTISTS regardless.

[@narwhalocean791]

i had natural talent, as a 6 year old my drawings were miles ahead my classmates, however its when i began practicing anatomy and other fundamentals when people were impressed with my art, not just for my age. natural talent is real, but it very rarely makes someone an amazing artist or prodigy. talent is just a headstart, not the cause of all your skill

[@molluscumlore]

Yeah when it comes to skills beyond exclusively physical aspects (you could call being 7ft tall a talent for basketball but most wouldn't) it really seems more like a way of thinking. There's an intersection where it is genuinely something you can't replicate (like someone who's naturally very good at memorization excelling at academics by brute forcing tests despite never understanding anything) but tbh those are usually just crutches for the user anyway that still need to hone the basics before they can be properly taken advantage of. Like how you can make food taste different by chewing faster/slower, eating it warm/cold, separating it into different pieces, etc., there's a lot of ways to approach a new skill that don't necessarily look different outwardly but can really affect the pace at which you grow

[@bathtubs.]

i think the tiktok art community should just be avoided at all costs if you wanan grow as an artist

[@ronan5642]

100% preach, because this is the truth 😭! Used to be on it but I stopped interacting due to all the.. Useless drama 👩‍🦲 I wasn't letting that brain rot infect me.

[@N0T4X0]

Yep. Never touched tik tok, my art has gone from not knowing anatomy nor the actual basics of art (since I used to draw for fun) to know a lot more and being more good at it in the span of 4 years. I will never touch the tik tok art community since it is extremely toxic.

[@KatOnline]

I believe it's a mix of both for some artists. For instance, I went through a lot of training and practice to get to where I am which majorily impacts my artwork. However I was also naturally born with a creative, imaginative, and inventive mind as well as the passion to draw and craft. Which does help. When people say "you're talented" I don't take it literally for it's definition. You have to also consider how the word is often used socially rather than just what a dictionary says it means. If someone thinks a person is being negative when they call them talented, that's probably a sign of insecurity and pessimism or a sign that the person just take things in face value. In most cases no one is trying to be negative when they say someone is talent. They are just trying to say the person is good at what they do and their work is impressive . In most cases people don't use talent to mean natural born gifted. Do you think in America's got talent that the competitors didn't work hard to get to their position. Absolutely not.

[@BreDrawz]

Exactly. I brought up the definitions to show why they’d get upset, because so many people go off the dictionary definition. But really people just mix up terms and have just gradually turned them into the same term. I think people are definitely allowed to be upset, but when told they’re talented, should take that fact into consideration. Whether the source of their annoyance is insecurity or not though, I think their feelings are still valid and are okay to express (not saying you meant it that way, just speaking generally)

[@xcenex479]

I think many people get upset when called “talented” because it sounds to them as if the person is implying that they didn’t put in any work. But having talent doesn’t mean being able to just magically do something well. Even if you’re talented, you still need to put in the work to get better, though you might be able to do so faster and more easily. I’ve never heard the word “talented” used in a negative context and I doubt people mean anything bad by saying it. I’ve caught myself getting upset a bunch of times when my mother said I was talented.. But I’ve gotten over it now, as I know she is simply trying to say she’s impressed. I might not be that good of an artist anyways, but I guess someone who can’t draw at all looks at it differently. In general people should simply chill

[@samward4640]

I wish people on tiktok, specifically ones who want to do art, could hone their inner desire for drama and take up performing arts. It's a great and rewarding form of art, and it's entertaining to both watch and participate in. I would know that I was terrified of stages until I ate my fear and signed up to do it in high school. I promise that it's a far healthier way to vent than whatever the hell this is. (Drama kids, help me out here lol)

[@sketch3799]

One thing about the "I've been practicing for 6 years and I haven't improved" Is a mindset I always and think will forever have. The thing is, you have improved, but it's been gradual so you haven't noticed. Put recent work beside that old work, and it'll be obvious how far you've come!

[@tammybauer7804]

Totally agree, like I understand how it could be annoying for someone not to take your compliment, especially if your intent was good. However just because you had good intentions doesn’t mean that person has to like what you said to them. Moreover I see people saying that artists should just say “thank you” instead of complaining, which is weird to me because out of the millions of ways you can complement someone you still choose the adjective “talented”. Its not that hard to come up with a different compliment for someone or to listen to what they want to hear. Especially if you like their artwork. Regardless I think this drama is pointless and doesn’t really matter lmao.

[@saltydinonuggies1841]

No literally. No one has to just accept a compliment but also it’s really stupid to get pissed at someone being frustrated over smth small. I don’t like when people say I’m talented because I work hard on my art but at worst I awkwardly just walk away or go yeah. The arguments over a stupid TikTok trend is so stupid.

[@loserrfish]

I love your commentary and the art! Your lineart is very smooth and clean c:

[@BreDrawz]

Thank you :D

[@Foervraengd]

im in my 30s. and i am not on tiktok. But whenever i watch any art community commentary vid about something going on at tiktok, it is always the same stuff that i experienced on places like deviantart in the mid to late 00s lol. Nothing really is new under the sun huh? But also, as someone who has seen this discourse several times through my two decades online; ppl will always call you talented. Or they will say wayyyy worse stuff like “you’re so good it makes me wanna quit drawing” or other self-deprecating “compliments” (which, if it hasnt been a tiktok topic already, it absolutely will pop up sooner or later). The best way to handle it is to just accept that non-artists just don’t know any better. And a lot of ppl think talent and skill are the same thing. Find a healthy art community outside of tiktok where you can vent out your frustration with your peers without having to worry about it going viral. That way you don’t end up arguing with random ppl in the comment section of your tiktok vids. We artists will recieve a lot of ignorant comments through our lives, and you will learn to just brush them off as time goes by. Turn off notifications, mute your posts etc if things get too overwhelming. And remember that these discourses are not new and there are lots of older artists who can share their experiences to you.

[@Sonchikas1]

I've been drawing since i was 10 and nobody likes my art except me. Shit really requires talent to make something exceptional, skill alone not gonna cut it.

[@BreDrawz]

Art is subjective, the people around you not liking it doesn’t make it bad or that you lack the “talent you need”, it’s just not the style for the people around you. If you’ve been practicing, it’s a skill. The talent in art is things like creativity or fast-learning, both are talents that can be applied to skill. Once you practice it becomes a skill. Im not trying to tell you what to do, but try not to tell yourself things like that. It’s a harmful barrier in your art journey. I bet your art is beautiful and if I were to see it i know id love it. It’s a shame that people cant see how wonderful your art is. ❤️

[@Sonchikas1]

@@BreDrawz aww man thanks for the kind words but i think you shouldn't say that before you actually see my art (not that i am gonna show). I was drawing becuz i thought it was my only way to have any self worth and i don't want to do that anymore.

[@rileythesmiliest]

i really admire how you just draw your poses. i usually need several references to get the anatomy right but you do it so well!!

[@th3realr1li4ne]

i love the fact that tt is the mother of drama😭✨

[@Analuiza13254]

Ou de gente insuportável

[@pettyunhinged]

The other way around

[@jetanimations]

I literally love the more humorous side of this trend and the idea of the more genuine ones.

[@kittenessh5872]

skill also comes with the passion of that thing that you can learn to do really well, when talent may be something you can do great first, second, and third try but not necessarily enjoy it (though most people would because theyre good at it) IMO :)

[@alex.xx3]

Honestly, me personally, when someone tells me something like “oh, you’re so lucky to be able to draw like this, i could never” or “oh, you’re so talented”, most of the time i just answer that it took me years and a lot of money to practice (nicely, of course, like with a smile, and after thanking them ofc. Like they didn’t have to compliment me like that but they did. I feel like thanking them is the minimum, and i’m always happy to thank someone). I have met some people who thought i was born (? somehow) with this skill/talent, and they say like “oh your genes are so good” or something in the lines of that, and then most of the time my answer is to explain them (NICELY) that drawing is a skill, and even if it were a gene and i wasn’t aware of it, i definitely didn’t have it (and them proceed to show a drawing that i did like 4 years ago (i REALLY improved in 4 years)

[@Artsy_videogaming345]

I see why people would say talent instead of skill I personally didn’t know the difference between talent and skill but we definitely weren’t born with talent

[@0nly._.Animations24]

Fr. I did a video with the audio of people saying: "can I very heavily ref/trace your art?" And then everyone got butt hurt over it and said stuff like "your art ain't all that💀" and "people trace get use to it!" When all I was doing was trying to express my opinion about people tracing my art so yeah it kinda pissed me off but I still make art just because one person trace my art doesn't mean everyone will but I still need to be cautious just in case

[@Nari.comreal]

Bro there is so much tik Tok art drama I can’t even Keep up with it 💀 it’s always for the most stupidest of reasons to💀it’s like “OMG I hate this art style so much that they’re using might as well just hate on the whole trend that they’re doing and everyone that’s following along with it😇” I tell you it’s always for the most stupidest reasons💀💀💀

[@BreDrawz]

LITERALLY LMAO. All their drama in a nutshell is just 'we dont like this... GRAB THE FIRE AND PITCHFORKS!!'

[@lan_hua5855]

You're such an underrated and fun art commentary channel! I love your content and the art you draw in the bg while you talk!

[@BreDrawz]

Thank you so much! ❤️🖤

[@Fremineettt]

Bro this whole time I’ve been telling artists that their talented I didn’t even know it meant natural talent and that their born with it and etc I was just trying to give them a compliment and now I feel bad knowing some ppl think that I’m ignoring the time and effort they spent on their art- (T-T“)

[@user-bx3kz9sp8p]

I’m shocked there’s a wholesome drama commentator. Subbed.

[@haunted7937]

Honestly I thought everyone agreed to call artists skilled over talented for years

[@LilyWhitesLK]

I usually feel a bit annoyed when someone calls me “talented” because I take that as if I didn’t work hard for my drawing skills. I never feel anything more then that toh, I tend to explain that I’m not and that I work over the years (five, and I really improved a lot) to get better, I’m not a professional but I always try to give advice that worked for me, things that helped me, of course I always add that while some may work, others don’t because we don’t think the same. Plus one might feel more upset at being called “talented” if they heard it multiple times already…

[@KatietheKreator]

I wish people would focus on stuff that's actually a problem instead of raging over a harmless tiktok trend

[@Not_darii]

People on TikTok take actual reasonable arguments and try to counter it by “stfu ur ugly” or something like that.

[@warriorcatkitty]

I can see why always being told "I wish I had natural talent like that!" could be very annoying. My mom is always saying things like, she can't draw becuase she "doesn't have the natural ability for it", but hearing stuff like that makes it seem like I DIDN'T have to work to get to where I am at now, that it wasn't hard, that I didn't need to practice and practice and practice. Which is very frustrating. Nobody is just born magically able to draw perfectly. Literally everyone has to learn when it comes to art; you just have to have the DESIRE to try.

[@Artemis_the_gremlin64]

People yell at me for chewing with my mouth open, like that’s gonna stop me from my c h e w I n g h a b I t s 😂

[@mxchelle6795]

The part you talked about ‘no one is born with talent ‘ is soo true I’m an artist and I mostly draw people and occasionally flowers but I didn’t just wake up one day and start drawing u practiced ever since I was young I may be good at the form of art that involves drawing but I can’t play a musical instrument or do any type if performing art.

[@rand0m_l0cal_idi0t]

Well I was not expecting to cry during the end of the video at all but I do feel a little better about my art now and I might try again to learn how to do art like I want to

[@Anonymouthful]

The most important thing I have learned from browsing videos like this is to stay far away from TIktok and Twitter.

[@StellarWheat5]

I think people forget that language changes over time and that words will begin to mean different things depending on how there used. Talent and skill are just one example this is no different to mid being used to describe something below average when it use to mean something that was just average.

[@BebeClown]

finally someone that shared my opinion on this dude. I've met many artists that have gotten that same complement for a long time, myself included, and honestly its never really that annoying to the point where someone would ACTUALLY yell at someone and shake them around. Those videos were just probably and exaggeration of the built up frustration they've had over that remark. its such a pointless controversy in my opinion WHY CANT WE ALL JUST GEt ALONG GUYS!!! 🤧

[@soarskai]

as someone who is new to art watching you draw in the background has me baffled, you make it look so easy😂😭😭

[@yaB0i_Hawkx]

wow, I'll put you in the "tik tok art user who has comon sense" category. A rare sight indeed and I feel blessed

[@dawnvee3796]

I've only seen that audio paired with people saying "wow! You're a great drawer!" followed by a dancing drawer lol

[@BreDrawz]

I love that side of the trend they’re so funny 😭

[@aliyah1164]

Sorry I'm VERY late to this discussion but I'll comment anyways because yes. I was there when this first happened, and I'll admit that these videos REALLY put me off and gave off an energy that I wasn't crazy about at the time. (Of course, I kept those thoughts to myself and never went after anyone.) One thing I do appreciate you mentioning that a lot of other people don't talk about in this discussion is how definitions *do* change over time. Not on paper, but socially. Because while the dictionary definition of 'talent' means it's natural, that's not the way it's typically used nowadays. When many people say talented, they *do* genuinely mean it as just you being really good at something. For a lot of people, the 'natural' part of the definition truly has just dropped off. Which is why I can see both sides. On one hand, it's good to be mindful of the words we use and how they can be interpreted differently. What might feel like an innocent compliment to one could feel to another like it's downplaying a lot of their hard work. But on the other, it's also good to pay attention to someone's intent. While some say stuff like 'omg you're so talented I'll never be like you 😭😭' and it's pretty freakin' annoying, a lot genuinely just mean it as you being good. I can really appreciate a nuanced take like this instead of what everyone else seems to say about it with either one side being fully right and one side being fully wrong. 😓

[@fireofvictory7008]

I’ve seen so many people confused because both me and my sister have skill in drawing because we’ve both been practicing for years and people just assumed it was genetic talent. Bro I literally just watched Balto at like age 5 and drew dogs for the next 10 years

[@sammorsammmar474]

i really wanna know what brush you used to draw. and i agree with you. the person or people who say they kept trying for 6 years but failed to improve doesn't mean they can't. for me it took 7 years and my art is good now.

[@woahhaow10yearsand41]

Aww, you thanking your grandpa for the presents at the end is so cute 🥰

[@NeneAsome]

Art is not a talent, it’s an interest. Ever since I could remember I loved drawing, but that doesn’t mean I drew realistic portraits of ppl. I didn’t think this trend would make ppl so mad like it’s just someone speaking out about their opinion. Another thing is ppl need to stop getting all worked up about someone else’s opinion, because it’s an OPINION, unless of course it’s not a good opinion for example someone who supports Israel. Love your videos and can’t wait for the next one!

[@Realhuman111]

People hate like they rent due😭. It will always be weird to me posting about another artists hating . A little empathy goes a long way.

[@Raven-7293]

lol i couldn’t comment on my iPad and I wanted to agree with you on some things. Of course, I forgot what those things were. But the fact I see people taking things so far because of a misunderstanding. The funny thing about this video is after I watched it I found funny versions of this trend! Where someone said “they are a good drawer” and they said thank you…. The funny part is an actual drawer appears on the screen with drawn on legs and it played the audio “all of my greatness doesn’t come for free”✨ and those are my favourite. Because it makes me laugh so hard! Especially when I’m drawing! It also helped me a day ago when I was battling art block. 😊

[@trizzyy_dogg]

I love your drawing of Iris! Loved Ruby Gloom 💗

[@shophop006]

Usually when people cover drama like this it soon gets boring for me but you did awesome! I’m subbing!

[@hambram21]

7:56 the biggest thing that clicked with me rather recently from working on art for years is that sometimes a medium or a technique etc just clicks after a while. Like two wires finally connecting and then suddenly I’m like “oh I totally understand why my arms looks disproportional.” I don’t know how to describe it other than that sometimes but it’s definitely after doing it wrong multiple times over the course of a long time for me to get that

[@Mossbear_creates]

some of the artists venting to the song is valid, HOWEVER some of those artists doing the trend dont even put the word 'talent' in their videos they depict the person saying "youre are is amazing!" and theyll rant about it. Like thats where its getting out of hand. but I do love this one where the person says "youre an amazing drawer" and the artist turns into a drawer 10/10 way to make a toxic trend full of hate into a meme

[@BreDrawz]

yeah, ive started to notice the word talent entirely being erased now which in a lot of cases, it comes off extremely rude. maybe its not their intent (hopefully not), but i think those can be a lot more polite if the compliment shown isnt backhanded or disregarding their work. i really dont understand how some of the phrases made people upset, and maybe theyre trying to encourage people to practice, but the message comes out wrong. also i 100% agree, that drawer trend is my favorite trend out of all the different variations under the sound

[@abiliv-lf9tz]

Bro wha The trend really is "i dont like it when people think Im talented because it makes it look like their ignoring all the years I worked and putting their art down” “Well you're a @$#@!?” ._.

[@Yellowbeing08]

THANK YOU🙏🙏. People misunderstood the meaning of this trend SO BAD. Luckily to me it never happened (also because I don't post my drawings very often). But I've been drawing for 6 years to arrive to my ability, and if someone acted as if I just can do that naturally I'd feel so sad, I've spent years being insecure of my art and have Cem working really hard to arrive at a point where I feel good with myself and the work I do. I can understand how it can sound entitled tho bc the character who sings it is a villain who doesn't care about being gentle, so she talks and uses terms that can sound rude and entitled.

[@klii69]

Omg, Ive been binging your videos for a while now and everytime I see your persona I think it looks like Ruby Gloom, seeing you draw Iris is so cool!!! I love your content and your art is so satisfying!! :D

[@artvulture456]

I honestly hate it when artists get mad about being called talented. You know they just mean your good at it. Why are you purposely misunderstanding someone's words in order to get mad at them? Its really annoying

[@BreDrawz]

a lot of people aren't purposely misunderstanding, some people just end up taking it that way not realizing it's just a simple mix up of words. i dont think they genuinely get mad at people, but just find it annoying which is valid. although, this depends on the person because i wouldn't doubt some people are aware of the possibility of a mixup and get mad, which in that case... just why?...

[@hosannanoctifer]

the annoyance, to me, comes from the assertion by the person giving the compliment that they are somehow "untalented" and therefore won't work for the skill. I'm not better than someone else because 4 years ago I decided to teach myself how to draw! If some of these people spent as much time letting themselves try art as they do pitying themselves in a random artist's comment section, they'd be pretty damn good already 😿 like it doesn't matter if it takes you years to learn, that time will pass anyway.

[@mk-aka-morgan8386]

OMG I LOVE RUBY GLOOM!!!! I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OF THE EPISODES ON DVD 🙏

[@minecraftstoryroblox2227]

you’re very skilled at art! I love the simplistic art that you’ve made during this made. I’m practicing art currently and I’m amazed by your skills!

[@BreDrawz]

Thank you! :3

[@80s_Tiger]

Whenever I feel down about my art, and think that I haven't really improved, I take one of my old pieces and put it next to my most recent piece and I look at them like wow there's some differences. I think it honestly is a good practice to do because you can kind of be like wait I did improve. It kind of opens up your eyes a little because when you're stuck staring at the same thing over and over again, you kind of miss some things

[@T0astGhost]

It made me so upset how when we’d watch drawing tutorials in elementary school, the kids would say “I could never draw like that” or “They’re so much better at drawing than me” because anyone can be good at art, as long as they practice and work hard. Nobody’s born with talent after all.

[@5eokmin]

just wanted to say ur literally my favorte youtuber to listen to while drawing. very articulated and easy to listen to!!!!

[@BreDrawz]

Thank you so much! I am so glad you enjoy my content ❤️🖤

[@mjserrano32]

The fact that a simple complement is literally making a trend where people are GRABBING PEOPLES SHIRT COLLAR for it makes me want to cackle.

[@SakuraSuccubiStudios]

Honestly, as an artist, I actually agree with this trend and I don't understand the hate. It's not a "talent", I didn't come out of the womb drawing like that. I take a compliment, I don't be rude about it. But it gets generally annoying.

[@RazzleandDazzle-2]

OMG THANK 4 DRAWING HER SHEES DA BEAOST!!!

[@Strawberrykoal]

7:24 for anyone who needs to hear this: you aren’t getting better because you aren’t trying new things and you’re only trying to fit into one niche category of art you really want to do, try what good at first and then challenge yourself. First you need a reference and a lot of patience to figure out the base shapes, if it doesn’t look good, don’t go for a tutorial because those almost never work and you’re just gonna be confusing yourself by trying to do it exactly like them when you should be finding your own style. Another tip is don’t immediately try to shade like it’s 3-D, try flat colors first or even just sketches, maybe your art style is sketches and you just can’t do line art, maybe you need to do traditional art sketch, and then transfer it to digital. You aren’t not good because you weren’t born with natural talent, you have complete capability to draw like a van Gogh but you are limiting yourself with art tutorials and all that bull crap, if if you really have to use it tutorial only do the base shapes at the beginning before the sketch and then do whatever you need to do.

[@_Kai-is-in-the-walls_]

Your art is so satisfying to watch

[@maijamichelle1712]

My favorite thing to do when people say “I’m just not born with the ability to make good art” or “you’ve probably never drawn something ugly” I show them my early art… I’m talking elementary-middle school… that gets them real quiet.

[@dianasible173]

5:44 in my very opinion, people vent to Mary On A Cross and fckin Fahrradsattel (if you dont know what the songs mean just google it please.)

[@saintcitron]

The comments of the video you shown around 2min are so entitled, "just take the compliment" "it doesn't take much to say thank you", well I do agree and learning to accept compliments is a good thing, no one should be obligated to accept a compliment. You compliment someone because you like something about them, not expecting something in return. Those comments sounds like someone forcefully putting a gift into your hands and asking you to thank them

[@lokasen9417]

I'm the kind of person who grows a gastric ulcer every time someone tells me I'm "talented" or "have talent", and tbh when that happens AFK I usually sigh, thank the person for caring about my work, and then proceed to tell them I've been practicing a lot. Because well, even if I believed talent existed in the first place (which I don't), I'm still adamant that people should admit that practice and adequate equipment are the two things that get someone towards technical excellence. Also you guys have a semantics issue in English with the word "synonym". In French we use two different words for "similar meaning" (proxémie) and "identical meaning" (synonyme), because both are two very different things and two words with an identical meaning can be used interchangeably while two words with similar meanings will be used differently depending on which specific one fits the context. The result of 3k hours of practice isn't a "natural ability", and a "natural ability" doesn't allow someone to skip those 3k hours of practice and studies have observed that regardless of natural ability at first, people with lots of adequate practice on the same thing will have the same level of mastery regardless of how easy the beginning was for them and people with "a natural ability" won't get any better with just time and no practice, so it's all 100% skill. 😐

[@PenneyLan]

I swear the art community finds a new thing to hate every week 😭

[@Foervraengd]

This is definitely not a new thing. Art discourses online repeat the same 5-10 topics every third year. I know ppl who even make bingo cards over the most recurring topics in art circles.

[@PenneyLan]

@@Foervraengd I was trying to get at that they move on to another thing, I didn’t mean to come off as I was saying this was new

[@PenneyLan]

@Totallynotinksans fr

[@Victoria_veronica-lives]

TikTok hates on people without knowing the actual context or asking the creator for context it’s honestly kinda annoying and overreacting you can dislike a person and scroll you have no right to harass people. These artists can genuinely be minors so harassment will never help.

[@persephoenix]

I’m so late but omg your sprite has such Ruby Gloom vibes ❤️ Anyway, silly drama like this is why I avoid tiktok. Hopefully everyone involved can distance themselves and move on from it. Awesome drawing btw, you’re making me want to get back into it but I don’t have a stylus rn

[@sweetw-mq5tm]

I love your art work

[@witchetrine]

I saw a really good point someone made once, being able to draw isn't the skill artists are actually born with, its the innate creativity that can drive artists, their imagination is the born talent not the drawing itself.

[@YvanniStar]

I understand it isn’t really talent so much as skill but gosh is it annoying to compliment someone saying they are really talented only to get replies saying “No they are SKILLED, talent is this and that and skill is this and etc.” 💀

[@SpringyBoii]

7:00 i will let you know that when I started on art it was literal sonic characters with stick arms that looked like a 6 year old drew it. Now, 6 years later after full COMMITMENT it is much better, and I'm very proud of it. it takes training to get good at art, and sure it could come to people easier than others but it still needs to be trained and practiced. I mean it took me 6 years and my friend 2 years to get better.

[@Mirdehoo]

Although complimenting artists by saying they have talent is _okay.._ for me personally, the only reason why I *hate* receiving this compliment is because they always follow up with "I can barely draw this!", "I can barely draw that!", it's ANNOYING. and even if I tolerate it, when I respond with "Oh, that's cause it took me years to build up this skill, but you can do it too!", most of the people I talk to say "Nah, I'll never do that. I can barely even draw (thing), there's no way I can do this." LIKE THAT LITERALLY DISMISSES WHAT I JUST SAID???

[@coldbelly]

Ok wait but I absolutely love your art style 🤯 also I like the drawer version of this trend lmao, that’s the only one I’ve seen lol I haven’t seen the version talked about in this video

[@Bat.Sk4llz]

i hate the ppl in the comments of those videos who go like "so close! you were supposed to say thank you",from non-artists "natural tallent" and "i can barely draw a stick figure" ISNT A COMPLIMENT thats like going "youre so lucky you were born pretty" and "im so ugly compared to you" self deprecation isnt a compliment. and it makes SO MANY artists uncomfortable when you tear yourself down as a "compliment" its uncomfortable

[@Bianca-tt5ho]

Tysm in the time wich I watched your video you make me happy and I started to try find my style and I find it bc I listened you, tysmmmm❤❤❤❤

[@homelessperson5455]

When it comes to drawing, I have both talent and skill in some amount (can't say that without sounding like a narcissist :/ ). From the age of 2, I would draw using real life and cartoons as reference. They were bad, but not bad for my age. I drew a LOT growing up before taking a hiatus in my teen years. All of it was self-taught with my imagination and real life as my only references besides some half-remembered lessons here and there from art teachers. This made me better than most by brute force reinforcement. However, I always ask what amount of that is from birth and what amount of it is from growing up with it? I wasn't taught by someone else, but it was literal years of training from a very young age. Now, here comes chapter two. After my hiatus, I found my drawings were not good enough for my age anymore. Whatever amount of skill/talent I got from my brute force learning had run out. So, I began actively studying techniques and training my mechanical skills more intently. This did yield results, and though they're not comparable to masters or veteran professionals, I'm more than a hobbyist now. I love all my works, even the ones that make me cringe. But, the ones that came after my active choice to study art are the works I'm most proud of. The ones that I knew were more than just talent. The ones that were without a doubt only possible through skill. I love any compliment to my work, I'm an artist, literally my entire existence is trying to make people like my dumb little creations. But, I must admit, it would be nice to hear more people call it skill and not just talent. However, we all are in some amount a product of both nature *AND* nurture. If someone compliments you on the grounds of either, just take it and know they mean well. If someone specifically says "natural" or implies your results are devoid of effort, I can understand being insulted.

[@guyman24]

Btw I just want to say your art is great! Also this video is really well made as well!

[@angelineandborialis]

ruby glooooooooom!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeah, people mistook the trend as a way to say "they don't get that it took HOURS to draw" instead of "thank you! though, i don't like being called talented, maybe say you have great skills?"

[@palizerart6846]

i can kina agree with this. But sometimes people dismiss talent so much i have to wonder, what is talent then? because no baby borns with the ability to sing or write or draw. everything has to be learn, so yes, learned skill is importat. BUT. there are some people no metter how much time and effort they put into something just can't get to their desired level, or just lack that spark that separates them from good to great, because they are NOT talented. Every time i hear this ergument is just have this iffy feeling about it. I can 100% get behind these artist's frustration, and feeling like some people discredit the work they put in. That art is not just purely talent, and talent and skill go hand in hand. So, this comment is not about dismissing these artist's frustration, as a fellow artists who spent years learning, who now goes to an art university, i can get it. I just feel like it begs the question WHAT is talent then. Maybe i am the one reading into this too much, and it's not this deep. But people clearly feel invalidated over this compliment, so i think we should look into how people think talent works, and not just the dictionary meaning. Because i think this is the reason this whole argument exists. i would personally define talent as a natural draw to do and acomplish something in a specific feild. most peole i know outside of art school stopped drawing in elementary, clearly they didn't even feel the need to want to learn it. I saw them be bored and even frustrated they had to attend art class in elementary and high school. I think this is where talent begins. so yeah. this is kindas long but ever since i learned about this drama i was thinking about this. i think every person has their owpersonal definition of talent, and they not necesserly mix is with skill. but lot of the time that could be the case.

[@BreDrawz]

this was interesting and definitely made me stop and think, but i think talents don't always fall under the category of hobbies, like many believe, most talents are traits people are born with since those count as a natural ability. like some people can be born with the ability of a curious mindset, which can lead to someone acquiring the skill of becoming a scientist or another field that is linked with curiosity, with training. or someone born with the ability to be very observant, which can be a stepping stone into acquiring the skill of art. i think most people think it's only referring to physical things, but talents can also be mental strengths. i think talents as a whole are simply a strength an individual has that can lead to them developing skills that match their strengths. your analysis of this aspect of the situation was very interesting, thank you so much for sharing because i enjoyed reading and thinking on your questions & thoughts!!

[@palizerart6846]

yes, i compleatly agree with you, i just couldn't really artuculate opninion fully. English is not my first language so that is a barrier as well. But i never meant to imply talent is only a hobby or specific thing. If you think about it, very talented people usually are very skilled in many different overlapping areas (or in some cases fields that don't seem to have an overlap). For axemple musicians who are amazing visual artists or good at maths. music is build on manths. Scientists working in many fields. Or simply look at the polyhystors of the renesance. this is kinda why i made this commant. to try and dive deeper into what talent is because some people really flatten de definition and look at it ina surface level way. and i think this is ehy this whole drama comes from. not the immediate reason but the root cause. @@BreDrawz

[@louzo5175]

both my parents are artits and that could be the reason why my sister draws anime tities and i started drawing sans undertale in aminos years ago but also this is increadably funny in its concept merged w ur theory

[@palizerart6846]

@@louzo5175 i drew yaoi when i was younger and now im in art school for fine arts. So i think you can keep drawing your sans and anime tits😊

[@Zombina638]

Eh disagree with the baby part

[@theartistrain1451]

Personally, i usually am a bit upset when people say I’m talented, but I’m not about to go off on a tangent about how talent is natural and its a skill etc i just accept it and move on

[@Lucifer-do7mf]

i love the char youre painting here. shes so adorable!

[@CherryCherryAng3l]

Honestly when I heard that there was a trend with a trolls 3 audio I didn’t think of the audio with the tallent, I thought of the “Oh my billboard? The billboard I made? We like the billboard now?” Or what he said and it made me think of how girls in my school said my art was ugly and then by them complementing it they’d be saying something completely different,

[@dirtybaggage1782]

on the talent thing i do have to say i personally believe people can naturally mesh with certain fields or subjects better than others. i've seen people who worked their asses of trying to improve their art but it doesn't click with them, and their art still needs about as much improvement as when they first started. on the other hand i've seen people who've hardly ever drawn pick up a pencil, and comprehend the basics within a few weeks. it can be the same with anything, math, history, science, engineering, etc. some people naturally adapt to a thing very quickly where others can't, and need varying more degrees of study in comparison. that's "talent" imo. THAT BEING SAID.. how people normally use the word can be obnoxious, specifically when it's used as self-deprecation. i grew up with enough of that bs from my mom, i don't have the patients for it from randos. if you want to self-deprecate don't drag others into it.

[@malz240]

EXACTLY! when I was at an art museum, my dad was like “ew that’s gross” while I was admiring the bleary and soaking in every inch of it

[@carynn3496]

okay, but the: "wow your such a great drawer" meme where they have a drawer on their head and sing this is actually funny

[@DogBat]

Topic of the video aside, you make it look easy and I’m jealous

[@rosied7082]

6:24 The people saying "you art is ass anyways" gives me the same vibes as people who say "Ugh, you're ugly anyways, I was just being nice" after they get rejected

[@Breadandbows]

My personal opinion, the artist have a valid reason to be upset about getting told they have natural talent, and don’t deserve hate on them and/or their art. But, instead of making a big deal about it we should further educate those who are un aware that it is offensive and meant it to be a compliment.

[@faeisanartist]

i honestly agree with you , as an artist myself , i did find this trend annoying but i never would harrass someone over it , but i could get why they would be mad , but grabbing someone's shirt collar is a bit ...concerning.

[@Sparrow_-]

Can everyone appreciate the perfect freehanded pupil circle? (In the drawing) But beside that, this was a really good approach to this issue with very good points! :D