Brexit Party comes out on top in EU elections - ahead of Labour and Conservatives

It was one of the most remarkable elections the UK has ever seen, with both Labour and Tories suffering historically abysmal results.
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The results of last week’s EU elections are in: Nigel Farage's new Brexit Party topped the poll with nearly 32%. And the Liberal Democrats came second with 20%, their best ever result in a European Election.
But what does it mean? And how will these results affect Brexit?
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[@robwhite3955]

I live in Australia, I'm not even watching this for news, I'm watching it to see what Spin and Propaganda look like in British media

[@popculture70]

Have you thought about watching Russia Today?

[@skibumwannabe5492]

Well son, you gonna learn today!!!

[@kevinhunt3325]

Farage is establishment, he gets no end of media publicity. Can`t name MR X had police march 200 masked thugs 2 miles to attack his supporters on a white council estate. BBC / MSN papers never print truth. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYO3qJ6qZpp2iZY

[@Hawkeye19821]

Watching the UK media makes me feel physically I'll. I look forward to another 20 years when the MSM are a shell of what they are now.

[@TheSpiritOfTheTimes]

I hope Australia gets nuked. The most pointless country in the world. Make it into Mad Max country. Or cull the population and populate it with the Chinese.

[@ironfistfreddie]

Man City didnt win the premiership because all the other teams combined had more points....

[@clowncarqingdao]

No they didn't. That's a ridiculous statement. However, if their matches was friendlies, they wouldn't have won the premiership - which is why an advisory referendum cannot be forced on us as a mandatory 'people's vote.' Pressure from the Mail, Express, Sun and Telegraph and frothing from the mouth by Brexiter MPs including calling judges 'traitors' scared politicians (who you will remember had a member assassinated in cold blood by a right-wing Brexit supporting terrorist a few weeks before). Regardless of Farage frothing at his mouth about Cameron said the government will implement the result, Camoron resigned and regardless, Cameron does not make the law. He can't change it on his whim. The Tories said they would implement Brexit - and they have spent 80 billion pounds so far doing nothing - but that can still democratically be changed by a government without being anti-democratic or by a mandatory referendum.

[@luke2328]

Stupid analogy, no deal Brexit was not on menu, badly constructed referendum Farage deliberately caused confusion into what leave eu was about, that’s why he constantly said they would be on their knees begging for a deal. Well they are no! So as Farage wanted parliament to take back control they have and they cannot come to agreement other than to say no majority for a no deal. So either general election until parole then can coalesce around a Brexit policy or back to people simple (not) but that’s the mess Brexit referendum has got us into, should never have happened!

[@marksavage1108]

@@clowncarqingdao advisory????, £9 million spent on pro eu leaflets, so much for equality in election criteria,aleaflet in which the government stated , ``we will carry out what you decide``, so your advisory bit is a lie that you are repeating. It is in print in millions of homes, a government statement stating that takes away any suggestion it was mearly advisory, stop being such a loser oh and try to stop repeating lies.

[@marksavage1108]

@@luke2328 should never had happened, so you were not only happy in NOT having a direct vote in the eec/eu for 41 years, you also wanted that anti democratic stance to continue. 80 seat majority was another ``peoples vote``

[@AA-db9cb]

Channel 4 has to go just like the Labour and Conservatives.

[@stucrawford6230]

Just watch another channel Snowflake.

[@billsmyth5386]

lol 6 weeks to form and he gets 31 percent

[@princeofdenmark9142]

@Boris Farage biggest landslide we've ever seen

[@billsmyth5386]

@Boris Faragethey beat out all the others.

[@shockadelic]

@Boris Farage The people who didn't vote didn't apparently care either way, so they are not relevant to the discussion.

[@princeofdenmark9142]

@Boris Farage nice one lad stay salty

[@crouchingtiger9108]

@Boris Farage How does it feel to know that a WTO brexit is coming?

[@georgeswampy6224]

May has already resigned, she is only a caretaker leader now.

[@gusnorthamptonshire2651]

She was another Puppet

[@popculture70]

Let's have a referendum on everything.

[@joeking1019]

She was never a leader

[@canman5060]

She gives us women a bad name.

[@scousemouse9715]

I know Caretaker leader. I'd have arrested her for Treason, done a mock trial with a jury of bribed Umper Lumpers and have her drink the Nations tears of betrayal and watched her gag.

[@bobnarsh2553]

I see Corbyn is still determined to go absolutely no where.

[@dvidclapperton]

Well this was well and truly the tories idea, and only they should take the whole blame for the whole process since Cameron officially called tgr referendum and for any post Brexit carnage. After Vote leave were guilty of corruption during the referendum swinging it Leave's way, Corbyn should have put a halt to persuing a hard Brexit albeit not quite as extreme as the tories version, and instantly demanded a second referendum but his fears of brexit slipping away have forced him to hold back. Corbyn had nothing to do with the vote leave, yet still been trying to persue even after Leave were found guilty of corruption.. He looks like he wants a hard brexit albeit with a customs union, and seen to be doing so but doesn't want to admit it in public for fear of losing labour remain support, but he fears a second referendum. Corbyn certainly wouldn't want to be fronting Remain in any second referendum, but would be under extreme pressure from the unions to do so even though he clearly wants to leave. The unions are for Remain. He can't merge in the background second time around.

[@charlesreid1311]

I don't think Strammer is going to disappear completely

[@liztunks4640]

Nigel. congratulations to you and your Party leaving the European Party.

[@swordnboard5257]

Attempting to guess how many voters are pro-remain, from various parties, is asinine.

[@Jimboy1611]

But deducing voters who are pro-remain through their voting for unequivocally pro-remain parties like the Lib Dem’s and Greens (not to mention the SNP who haven’t been counted yet) gives you a sturdy indication as to the current “will of the people”.

[@rww805]

@@Jimboy1611 are you saying that nobody voted green for green reasons?

[@jdg9999]

@@Jimboy1611 lol, but they take the conservatives out of the pro brexit side? Fucking laughable propaganda

[@carolinebennett5615]

jdg Not at all. Makes complete sense.

[@erine4431]

@@Jimboy1611 and if you add up brexit party, ukip, Conservative votes what does that add up to? 🤔

[@shawnthompson4611]

Channel 4, can I have some more salt on this? 🤣

[@ZXspectrum..]

''The Threat of nigel farage''....hes not a criminal !!

[@popculture70]

He's a fascist who would privatise the NHS and cut social security to nothing given the chance.

[@carolinebennett5615]

Debatable. He has perhaps defrauded his EU employers. Then there’s being pay rolled by that dodgy man with links to Russia. Let alone the lies in the referendum.

[@popculture70]

@Beneath The Weeping Willow I think recent events have made it clear that one underestimates the stupidity and pig-headedness of the British people at one's peril.

[@Christinebanks11]

I'm not so sure about that.

[@ZXspectrum..]

Where's the proof to the accusations in the replies ? Nigel is becoming ever more popular because of the constant smearing and lies..

[@fcukwelshy]

so everybody that voted for the Green Party voted to remain in the EU, they had no interest in the environment ? I would have thought if they had no interest in the environment they would have voted Liberal Democrats. Even if 50% cared about the environment & wanted to remain in the EU these figure don't add up in favour of remain. They will say & do anything to remain & destroy Brexit.

[@yozzsongs]

Ch.4 ! You could spin Tuesday into Friday....

[@scousemouse9715]

Could they spin water into a Gin and Tonic?

[@MartinJG100]

I thought the Conservatives were bad but Labour are just a joke.

[@goofed86]

Conservatives are still the worst

[@paulpeartsmith]

Based on trying to keep the country together? That's the joke, a bad one at that. How is anyone going to govern this lot?

[@jopink7674]

Manchester city won the league,or did they? Because if you add Liverpool ,Spurs and Chelsea's points all together,they won ! Ahaa

[@vorebiz]

The remoaners will still coming out with this stuff when Nigel's in number 10 after the next GE. I expect an insane amount of salt about first past the post when it's not benefitting LibLabCon. It'll be hilarious.

[@therubicon]

👊🍺☝️😎

[@dmoiseyo8882]

The point is that there wasnt one single remain party for remainers to vote for. Brexiteers had the brexit party. Its ignorant and stupid for the brexit side of the argument to ignore the fact that the combined total vote for all pro remain parties was higher

[@zedtrek]

I just want to be sure here...you understand that it wasn't a football match?

[@mcfcok7952]

@@zedtrek do you understand that it was an analogy?

[@heatcheck3]

SPIN MODE.... ENGAGED

[@popculture70]

This is middle class news for educated people. You can find the content you are looking for in any newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch.

[@stevenclark6209]

@@popculture70 I love channel four it goes after who isn't telling the truth.. the people who are corrupt .. the only people who don't think free speech is the people who have something to hide.

[@omkhetz3798]

It dont make no sense, conservative party is firmly leave so its still leave>remain

[@popculture70]

@@stevenclark6209 Literally there is a media sound chamber out there saying everything you want to hear... The Sun, The Express, Russia Today, Breitbart, Fox News, some random Facebook site etc... Why tune into a middle class news network when the plebs are totally catered for elsewhere?

[@kevinhunt3325]

@s barron You can`t believe ANYTHING the MSM tells you, they are totally corrupt . Watch for the Trump declass which tells us Teresa May tried to bring down Trump with lies. It is the UK government that has been working to bring down Trump through the Russian hoax. There are many going down for treason / sedition in the USA. Farage has nothing to do with Russia and neither has Trump. USA has just had the Meuller report where after 2 1/2 years, $35 million, 500 subpoenas 40 full time FBI agents have found NOTHING connecting Trump or Farage to Russia.

[@raywelsh5335]

Plaid took 94 years to beat Labour, the Brexit Party, 45 days. However, it is historic for Plaid - OK!?

[@dmthandmade5674]

If only we could strap some magnets and copper wire to your analysis, we might have solved the world's energy problems.

[@rww805]

Excellent blend of science and comedy. Have a like

[@popculture70]

If only these elites would understand that Brexit is the panacea to all society's ills. 17 million people can't be wrong!

[@Mohammed8778]

@@popculture70 >millions cant be wrong >german nsdap nazi party in '45 had about 10 million members >they were probably right. thats pretty dumb man. you do realise that you say the opposite of also close to 17 million people. so what you're saying is that both sides cant be wrong because its so many eople saying that. you do realise how stupid that is, dont u

[@rww805]

@@Mohammed8778 stfu you remoaniac

[@monroecorp9680]

@@Mohammed8778 >implying germany was ever wrong >lol

[@keithhall1655]

the usual channel 4 rubbish questions, they are so obviously, partisan! onwards and upwards!

[@christopherblackburn6811]

Yes haven fore fend that a news outlet ask a party that stood in an election without a manifesto what it’s policies are.

[@christopherblackburn6811]

Jericho But do they believe enough? Because that’s the most important thing.

[@leonbell5141]

Keith Hall yeah watch the bbc for Tory sponsored and controlled spin 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@popculture70]

There are plenty of media outlets that cater for right-wing conspiracy theorists and plebs... All the Murdoch rags, Russia Today, Breitbart, some page that appeared in your Facebook feed. Thank God for proper, accountable journalism.

[@bexhandley814]

@Jericho what benifits are those?

[@ArcadeCabNBud]

channel 4 SPIN - we can see right through it. shame on channel 4 news !

[@popculture70]

They should sell Channel 4 to Rupert Murdoch or Russia Today. Then the plebs would get the kind of news they want.

[@MsElke11]

I'm a Canuck who has been smitten by NIGEL FARAGE for many years now....natural, passionate, eloquent, humorous, and, believe him or not, TRUTHFUL!!

[@popculture70]

He's a conspiracy theorist nutjob who constantly goes on about George Soros and the New World Order. He wants to privatise the NHS and strip social security. A loon.

[@gdfggggg]

@@popculture70 wrong. George Soros actively donates to globalist causes. Conspiracy theories arn't his style. He made a suggestion about a private health insurance policy to his party which was never furthered.

[@markhenryramsey9132]

Channel 4 I'm amazed at how you do it. How do none of you get dizzy with all the spinning you do? Incredible achievement!!

[@cabinessenceking]

Super mad that your hard Brexit got no more than 35% of the vote? I'd throw a tantrum too!

[@markhenryramsey9132]

I'm actually for either remaining or full on leaving. But well done for assuming. It's precisely that kind of yawnful response that makes me not want to associate with whinging remainers. Anyway :) have a lovely evening. Life to live things to do.

[@Biskawow]

@@markhenryramsey9132 "I'm actually retarded" is all I can read from your drivel. How can you be either remaining or full on leaving??? Stupid idiot.

[@bobnarsh2553]

Channel 4. Bias again.

[@popculture70]

So why watch this? You can watch Russia Today and they'll tell you exactly what you want to hear.

[@TheSpiritOfTheTimes]

@@popculture70 Russia is more pro-EU than the UK.

[@davidlloyd5456]

Brexit won the referendum vote now execute it.

[@davidlloyd5456]

@xenon127 May has already squandered over 2 years then undermines her negotiating team and puts forward a deal that no right minded person could vote for the whole team resigns. May takes her half assed deal to parliament in the meantime the parliament passes a bill taking no deal off the agenda EU negotiators must have been over the moon on that one. Then May delays Brexit we're forced into EU elections Brexit party win most seats another message from the people even with only a 36% turn out and you can be sure that the vast majority of remainers came out to vote for the Lib Dems or the Green party. So now we have Nigel Farrage and the Brexit party linking with other like minded parties in the EU so even if we by some slight of hand are forced into another referendum to overturn the democratic result of Brexit Brexiteers will be a thorn in the side of the EU and our Parliament. Time to remove no deal and restart proper Brexit negotiations with a Prime minister who is comitted to delivering a good deal.

[@jmmypaddy]

@xenon127 I agree so much, the leave voices talk like it's a switch to press and we're out. This constant simplicity to something that is so complex shows a complete lack of people informed among leavers.

[@barbosaguzman6101]

@@jmmypaddy can you give me some examples of complex negotiations being ignored by pro-leavers?

[@jmmypaddy]

@@barbosaguzman6101 Irish border is one, the Good Friday agreement requires both sides to be on equal footing. Brexit fundamentally breaks that, but that wasn't discussed in the referendum at all! The UK has many laws in place to ensure ease of flow between the UK and the EU, no deal brexit for example renders them inactive, causing issues of how to get these laws to work. there are 2-3 millions EU citizens living in the UK, and without knowing the degree of Brexit, what do we do with them? Especially so many of them work on our farms, doing the work the average Brit finds beneath them. Brexit also changes intelligence sharing between the UK and EU, to help stop crime. Do we stop sharing intelligence on any level, if so how much? Do we want a customs union or a single market or both? If so should we get access without paying? Or do we go hard brexit and deny ourselves lower costing trade with better quality of food and goods. We also need to discuss our immigration policy for entering and leaving the country. Do we want more or less? What is the longest time someone from the EU can comes to the UK before it's classed as living? Funny thing is if we leave the EU and get a trade deal with them for say food, we'll have to follow their food standards, especially when exporting to them. Therefore, we would still be beholding to them to some degree, though we wouldn't have a say on how these standards are changed because we'd have left the EU. If we left the EU and got a deal with the USA, the Americans want us to buy their lower quality goods, which means we'd have to have an agreement with the EU that maps out how we'd stop these poor quality goods from entering the EU. There is so much more, and i so much more. But you get the idea.

[@bb4l881]

They all say they want to deliver Brexit, but none off them will say HOW!!! WE VOTED TO LEAVE THE eu. OUT MEANS OUT!!! WE DIDN'T VOTE FOR A DEAL!!! SO LEAVE WE MUST!!!!

[@deathless3518]

Okay so Brexit it is. For the second time.

[@russelledwards001]

Erm... remain parties got more votes than the brexit party.

[@wiamoaw]

34.9% for pro-brexit parties vs 40.2% for pro-remain parties and 22% for "undecided"... Arithmetic was never your sides strong point.

[@royboy6301]

@@wiamoaw bullshit was always your sides strongpoint.

[@chrisfield3258]

Brexit got the most votes as a party by itself all the remain parties by themselves less votes each..

[@6thi874]

Russ If you add the goals from all the matches, England won the World Cup! Which country in the world, adds up all the losers scores and declares a fucking win? You’re insane. Brexit means Brexit.

[@Halebopp97]

If we have another referendum, can we have another in 3 years after more elections to see if people have changed their minds again? LoL! These people are a laugh a minute.

[@horyzengaming3935]

Anyone who wants or even thinks about having another vote on brexit is against the democratic system. This is treason and these people are the communists that want full control of this country.

[@Mohammed8778]

yea you can, why not?!

[@uk_bulletm4724]

obviously, if there is a vote and it is different then its best of three everyone knows that :)

[@richardmeade2477]

Yeah you can have another vote the last one we had wasn't the first one. Fml

[@Halebopp97]

@@richardmeade2477 The result of the last one still hasn't been implemented. Democracy has only been served once the decision has been implemented.

[@frantisekzverina473]

Oh, another party "run like a company". We had a few of those in Czech Republic. They were all very dictatorial and not democratic at all.

[@1chish]

How else does a political group get started, organised, operate a campaign and win in 6 weeks then? And being a company it actually has more regulations and oversight than a simple 'party'. Like it has to register its audited accounts. Something the EU hasn't actually managed in 20 years. Plus as it is a registered political party it also has the electoral oversight as well. As the Electoral commission proved last week. So I am not too sure what your point is exactly other than to make rather dumb innuendo connections to communists ... Normally we are called fascists.

[@1chish]

@Jericho Its never over until the Fat Lady sings .... We have until Halloween to arrange something with the EU so that we can all move on with our lives and move towards an FTA. Their choice. Otherwise its WTO Terms on November 1st. You see THIS is where our politicians and especially our Parliament have failed the tests. You ALWAYS have the option to walk away on the table in a negotiation. Its what all these successful people know very well. Otherwise your opponents will defeat you...

[@popculture70]

EU or RU... Those are the choices.

[@charlottecreasy4183]

Nigel isn't a career politician - he would - I imagine - be unlikely to lead the party for longer than he had to. I think it is a good format for a hurried start up...

[@popculture70]

@@charlottecreasy4183 Of course Nigel would walk away gallantly into the sunset.

[@1dkappe]

Your narrative about Labour and Conservatives having equally bad results is broken. Labour hasn’t done nearly as bad. They’re 7% down while the Tory’s have been wiped out. As an American, I don’t have a dog in this fight, but you guys have to work on you maths.

[@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549]

Dietrich Kappe you are not an American.

[@19thewanderer]

If you think Labour didn't do too bad you should go work on your maths... Labour needs to change tack, its deputy leader, Tom Watson, has told the BBC. We’ve lost many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of potential votes in that election because we got it wrong. And the time is now to show some humility, to listen and to move very, very quickly.

[@1dkappe]

Fragile Crystal I was born in Columbus, Ohio. Last I checked, that makes me an American.

[@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549]

Dietrich Kappe A real American would know how to spell math

[@1dkappe]

19thewanderer my apologies. I was looking at the previous election. Labour did lose about 40%+ of their vote share, while the conservatives lost over 62%. Local elections, however, by seats had Labour almost breaking even.

[@johnenochpowellmbe1294]

This was in my feed for some reason, I feel sorry for the people who watch this to gather their information. This is pure propaganda, what a joke!

[@katherinekoenemann4351]

Bravo Nigel. Get out of the EU as soon as you can. It's doomed and it should be doomed!

[@tomross350]

AHHH.. well you are about to be in for the shock of your life. They will make Nigel and his band of merry men Billionaires if necessary to change their mind :P

[@hedgerowclose]

Negatively biased question from CH4 at the 13:14 mark ... "how serious the THREAT of Nigel Farage is..." Why not use a more friendly word like the chances, the possibilities, or even the blessings of Nigel Farage ?

[@popculture70]

Privatise the NHS...

[@kiriseraph9674]

From lib dems point of view it is a threat, and the question was aimed at lib dem

[@brandonclevert3173]

So the word blessing would be okay? You kind of revealed yourself there buddy. You don't mind bias as long as its in your favor.

[@richardhills6952]

With this logic the city of London won the premier league as if you add the points of both the Manchester teams it would be lower than the points gotten by all the London teams

[@georgehill3421]

I know this is hard to comprehend but an election and a league are two different things, and thus shouldn't be treated the same.

[@HS-fm9kv]

Richard Hills Sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt!

[@Fordnan]

Let's try and correct your analogy. It's like saying that the MPs of London can out-vote the MPs of the North-West. Which they can - the reason being that there are more of them. If all the MPs in the North West were to demand brexit, they could not force it on the majority. Does that make sense? Pro-brexit parties got 35% of the vote. Do you understand that 35% is less than half?

[@6thi874]

George Hill Your faulty logic is at fault. Brexit Party is top of the heap. Farage won hands down and you can’t bear it. Cry me a fucking river. Brexit means Brexit

[@joshdutton8636]

6th I if there was only one remain party It would have got over 40%. Simple maths.

[@karlbaldwin9238]

Channel 4 classic spin just like the BBC. Bring on the Brexit Party from New Zealand 😎

[@emm_arr]

Does the Brexit Party from New Zealand want to take NZ out of the EU?

[@6thi874]

M R Excuse me but New Zealand is part of the Commonwealth. They could have voted in the election. How dare you be so rude to our cousins across the ocean??

[@PrinsTan]

@@6thi874 Is the Commonwealth part of the EU?

[@6thi874]

PrinsTan Sorry, I can’t converse with people who are totally ignorant. At least some education is necessary.

[@emm_arr]

@@6thi874 Does the Brexit Party from New Zealand want to take NZ out of the EU? To get away from those dicktaters in Brusslulz or summink?

[@philiptucker4700]

Channel four has to have Diane abbot doing its maths😂😂

[@billbrown1170]

Diane Abbott doesn't know any maths. She gets cue cards so she knows what day it is and what party she is in.

[@janetwright9700]

Will channel four ever give up on spin? It like the Magic Roundabout over and over again!

[@Bodragon]

WHAT A SORE WINNER YOU ARE. TIMES HAVE CHANGED. NEW INFO IS AVAILABLE. LET'S HAVE ANOTHER VOTE.

[@popculture70]

If only all the media was owned by Rupert Murdoch or the Kremlin, the plebs would be happy.

[@davidcwitkin6729]

You mean we have to listen to Nigel Farage even MORE now? Jeeeeeze.

[@princeofdenmark9142]

nah, just get back to your echo chamber

[@Gav_80085]

better listening to him than looking at that fucking neck, jeeeeeesus

[@Ismith019]

What a joke of a “news” organisation. The people showed that massively.

[@robc3586]

If you close your eyes & listen to Vince cable he sounds just like Mr Barraclough from Porridge

[@markjennings2315]

Brilliant observation, from now on he will always be Mr Barraclough in my mind!!

[@creddesignmatters6855]

Reasonably similar in looks too!

[@RonBurgundy-uw6nu]

Better to close your eyes and ears when you're around that headcase :)

[@paulbrookes5365]

But without the warmth an d charm.

[@charlottecreasy4183]

I've never heard him before and I too was struck by the voice - yes, just like Barraclough!

[@logik100.0]

So now there are a load of people representing the UK who's aim is to be a big a pain in the backside as possible to the operation of the EU. Just the people you want to represent the UK...

[@grtarse]

YES

[@logik100.0]

@@grtarse I recommend they do as ferage did. Not bother turning up then fiddle their accounts.

[@TheIamIrving]

Brexit is all fine and well, but what about all those those people who don't have pensions and have to work for a living? This whole thing was badly thought out.

[@GH-oi2jf]

kaptain kopter - What does that have to do with it? They can still work. ritain was once sovereign.

[@TheIamIrving]

@@GH-oi2jf They can't really. They are very old and think Britain still has an empire. It's long gone.

[@gunnerlangy]

Hasn't the Remain/Leave debate already been decided ? All that remains is how we leave.

[@popculture70]

Not really.

[@leecolburn7849]

Is correct. But they will keep crying about it.

[@therubicon]

So labour cons, and the Brexit even if it's no deal won the majority.

[@VaucluseVanguard]

As Sir John Curtice, Britain's leading political polling expert, said today on BBC Today, the assertion that remainers came out ahead is nonsense. The Brexit party and UKIP are one issue parties, so you can be clear what they think, the same is true of CHUK on the remain side. However, polls show about a third of SNP voters would vote for Brexit in a referendum. There are large numbers of those who voted Labour and Conservative in this election who would vote also vote to leave in a second referendum, and indeed even small numbers in the Greens and Lib Dems who would do so. The Channel 4 graph ignored Northern Ireland voters all together (although mentioned later). Bottom line is all the evidence actually shows the issue is still about 50:50; in which case the the 2016 referendum stands. Channel 4 are drawing conclusions that polling experts and political scientists simply do not support. Clearly, like Michael Gove back in 2016, they have had enough of 'experts'.

[@gracecollins8415]

Far from subtle background shows exactly where Channel 4 stands on Brexit. So much for impartial reporting.

[@popculture70]

I guess if you want non-stop fawning, your best bet would be the Sun, Fox News or Russia Today. Channel 4 will just upset you.

[@gracecollins8415]

+Simon West I believe I made a fair observation of an obvious fact and by the snarky nature of your reply, you obviously took umbrage because you couldn't refute it. I certainly wouldn't be looking to any major UK or US MSM outlets if I were looking for the unvarnished truth. Thankfully I don't live in either.

[@emm_arr]

@@gracecollins8415 You probably mean "rebut"! You mentioned "MSM", so that means you've already been taken in by alt-right rubbish. "unvarnished truth" You certainly never get that from the people who taught you to speak subculture. "Thankfully I don't live in either." At which point, Brexit's not really got a lot to do with you.

[@gracecollins8415]

@@emm_arr No, I meant ''refute'', I made an observation that was true in fact, therefore there is no basis on which one could base an argument. Nor do I intend to justify myself or my personal beliefs. ''MSM'' is a universally understood term and you and your ilk's attempt to make whole cloth out of its use is simply childish. transitive verb To prove to be false or erroneous; overthrow by argument or proof. transitive verb To deny the accuracy or truth of. transitive verb To repudiate.

[@emm_arr]

@@gracecollins8415 "I meant ''refute'', I made an observation that was true in fact" You used a single fact to spin a narrative. " ''MSM'' is a universally understood term" It's a subculture alt-right term, and that's your subculture. "and your ilk's" My ilk is not being in the alt-right subculture. I don't really do subcultures. "is simply childish" It's very much the point. I am mainstream. Normal. You've fallen into a subculture. Your mastery of copy ad paste is wondrous, but it is not going to help you. This one is based on reasoning.

[@tinytempa1396]

Hans Henkel - probably the only German that I totally Love in the EU.... A wise leader indeed... I hang on the man's every word.... Totally love him...

[@brigold3352]

get a better translation that may change it.

[@DaDunge]

Why are they going to "deliver on brexit when the brexit parties got 30% to the remain parties 40%?

[@palmer6933]

Are you thick bro?

[@DaDunge]

@@palmer6933 How does being able to count make me thick? 40 is more than 30. And neither labour nor the tories can be counted either way because they are both splintered down the middle.

[@DaDunge]

@Abs Peacock Why should they have to? While they are all united in wanting to stay in the EU they all want to do diffrent things with the EU parliament mandate they have been given. Yeah unlike UKIP and the Brexit party, these parties have got a platform beyond their feelings on Brexit. They didn't just claim this mandate to flaunt their support but because they wanted to do things.

[@mutton_man]

It's not as simple as that. Because those figures don't include conservative and labour votes. Both parties that have said they will respect the referendum result.

[@DaDunge]

@@mutton_man If both those parties were going to do that you'd have Brexited already.

[@johnsmythe7940]

If all the poor people left this country, who would polish the Lib Dems and Torys Shoes!!

[@keegan773]

There's so much spin....I'm getting dizzy.

[@russelledwards001]

You don’t need to spin the fact that the remain parties got more votes.

[@jameswhiteley6843]

@@russelledwards001 Labour and Tories (both elected on Leave manifestos) got 23% of the vote.

[@dorbid]

JAMES WHITELEY officially stood on compromise. And on Brexit in 2017. So nah mate

[@jakestewart5812]

Stop silly brexit before it kills someone.

[@Bodragon]

Honestly, if this is making you dizzy, then perhaps politics isn't for you. Facts can be so brutal.

[@currymuncher9814]

Not watched yet. Lets see how CH4 spin this for a remain win.

[@greathey1234]

Actually it was. The hard remaining parties got much more votes than Yuri Banks Farage Putin

[@dorbid]

Lol at “spins”. Sometimes things you don’t like just happen.

[@Jack-fs2im]

greathey1234 liverpool an spurs got more points than Man City.

[@currymuncher9814]

Brilliant comment . Wish I had thought of that one.

[@Hawkeye19821]

@@greathey1234 People who voted for the Brexit only cared about one thing. Except for change UK other factors were in play. If you add the Tories then leave won. Also we shouldn't even have had this election and your argument is irrelevant as we have already voted to leave. There is no such thing as a no deal. We don't want a deal that keeps us in the EU. You don't want to leave full stop because you are not a democrat. You want democracy only if you win. I wish you would all grow up and accept the result. People like you make me hate this country. You are the problem not us. Go and live in China if you don't believe people should get a vote that matters.

[@tonybaines3332]

crunching the numbers ?

[@buckfisherGBY]

I don't know how Great Britain ever got sucked into the EU in the first place. It's like appointing Mao Tse Tung to run all the European countries for you.

[@hoggarththewisesmeagol8362]

“You have to accept the Brexit party won.” Old Vince: “No not at all.” 😂😂🇬🇧 silly old plonker!

[@kevincarter2020]

shame on you Channel 4 for your very obvious bias

[@garytarr8216]

Channel 4 ..IRRELEVANT

[@emm_arr]

So you feel the need to post here to tell us it is! Nah. That makes you a prong.

[@popculture70]

Well for middle class educated people, Channel 4 is still a valuable outlet. For people like yourself I recommend any of the Rupert Murdoch owned newspapers or TV channels, Russia Today, some blogger on KZbin, or anything that appears in your Facebook feed.

[@markpaul3648]

In 1948 George Orwell wrote that public information would be like this in 1984....”ignorance is strength.”

[@aradicalkiwi806]

Mark Paul He was also right about Socialism, it works.

[@zaqvoir4856]

i am an American citizen. This Nigel Farage person sounds a lot like the British version of Donald Trump except Mr Farage can speak in complete sentences

[@DaDunge]

Yeah but Donald Trump actually shows up to the place he's supposedly employed Farage went to like three EU parliament sessions in his something like 15 years as a member of the European parliament. He came to one jut after Britain voted for brexit and the president of the parliament commented he had never seen Nigel Farage before in real life.

[@dukadarodear2176]

This interview guy was well able for Nigel. The New elephant in the room now is that most British people wish to remain.

[@brainlessoaf]

Oh, there's a better "British Trump" out there. Boris Johnson. He's even got the look! But yes, Farage's politics and rhetoric pretty well match Trump's. The two have vocalised their support for each-other a fair bit too.

[@b.r.c9156]

Well both of them used the same means „Cambridge analytica“

[@Jack-fs2im]

Fredrik Dunge please can you provide yr source and attendance records of EU meps.or delete yr comment

[@CM-vw6dc]

Absolute tosh from channel 4 media

[@Laurie77323]

U guys have CNN interveiwers the same as the USA.

[@FOXTELMAN9486]

and we have them here in Australia as well

[@popculture70]

We've also got OFCOM.

[@marksavage1108]

together we did considerably better, PMSL together you ALL LOST.

[@robertrohde4579]

As an American all I can say is that I and my English Mastiff named Brexit fully support Nigel and of course Brexit!

[@trevortaylor3774]

I know let's add all the points up in the premiership give em all to Liverpool then we could say man city didn't win the truth is their was only one winner that was the brexit party weather they like it or not

[@jonathantatler]

Whether NOT weather, you illiterate fool. There's my problem with you lot, ignorance.

[@adj9541]

Trevor Taylor this comment makes you look very stupid.

[@leonbell5141]

Trevor Taylor if the Brexit party was so confident they would push for a second referendum on no deal but they are too scared to put it to the people 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@debateit5174]

Leon Dyer we won the referendum already. That's why we are confident because we won and should have left already.

[@leonbell5141]

Debate It wait I didn’t vote for no deal I voted to have our cake and eat it...I voted for 350 mill a week for the NHS...funny no mention of no deal before we voted....traitors and liars all of them 👎🏽this ain’t democratic I’ve been conned....I’ll never vote again

[@nicholaswoolfenden5254]

Good the 2 parties got drubbed. But whats the point of being at EU parliament when you are Europhobes!!? Its pretty meaningless.

[@popculture70]

About one fifth of the EU parliament now are populist Eurosceptics. Enough to be annoying, not enough to block any serious EU business.

[@popculture70]

@a 2345193 Doesn't really work like that since most of the UK's MEPs are pro-European. It's more embarrassing than anything else having Farage there being rude and obnoxious when he bothers to turn up.

[@pickleonions4277]

So if you get bullied there's no point in fighting back is that what you're saying

[@dogsenseforu301]

TBH - not liking a ruling institution and it's elites doesn't mean u don't love the people it rules and the land mass in which it resides. EU used 2 b lovely, benign, trading place... then the temptations of power of Empire and EU Jingoism beckoned... expanding borders - check; taxation aka yearly 'contributions' 2 re-distribute as central elite see fit- check; Legal system - check; currency - check; anthem- check; flag- check; Defence force with increasing mandate- check... I bet an EU army is next;.... Worst of all when it comes 2 jobs EU- born ie > 90% white people get job/movement preference over and above Asian and African nations irrespective of skills or needs ie even above refugees!.. I believe refugees should b given residency 1st - approx 200,000 per year but from camps and then look everywhere 4 next 50,000 across the world ... EU included - ie net 200-250,000 immigration (assuming emigration approx 50,000) as long as preference is not given 2 white people over non-whites and preferred status is given 2 those with skills UK nationals cannot fill eg Drs and engineers.

[@mobbs6426]

Clocks ticking, I'm not sure I can handle C4 content for 45 minutes...

[@popculture70]

Why aren't you watching Russia Today. They have the perspective you want to hear.

[@Devilcat26]

Also you spelt the green MEP’s name wrong. It’s Magid Magid not Majid Majid

[@abuanihas3pazg149]

How can anyone trust Boris Liar Johnson on Brexit, as his colleague Rory Stuart said Boris said behind doors he is not going to go for WTO exit and now he's saying he will but who knows what he will do when he's in no.10, Tories are nasties as May said before she became PM.

[@popculture70]

I guess it's because people know what his name is. Worked for Trump.

[@kevinhunt3325]

Abu Aniha, May, Boris et all made up the hoax Russian dossier to try and bring down Trump. Declass coming soon which is the real reason May jumped ship. American Intelligence Media channel covered this and it`s a bigger scandal than Brexit.

[@ericatkinson9285]

Mateo Salvini Deputy Italian PM has said at a Political Rally that Europe has just 5 years to save itself from becoming "a lawless jobless Muslim Caliphate"_ Are You There Nigel?

[@ericatkinson9285]

@Jericho _ Mateo Salvini happens to be the Deputy Prime Minister of Italy who's Party is now the biggest in Italy _ hardly anyone is he

[@popculture70]

Farage joins the one fifth of nationalist populists who turn up once in a while to draw their 8000 Euros a month salary, shout some rude things and then go down the pub

[@reddyforlenny9389]

@@popculture70 "Dont have a argument? Just insult someone:-Typical mindset of a Neo-Torie/Labouror

[@leok8972]

Real sweet signs backing the shot at 7:45 . Did channel 4 have them custom made?

[@jaimecosta2966]

Of course he wod is getting well paid for this actions.. It's all about money

[@Bodragon]

It's very pleasing to know that facts still rule.

[@rodneykitchen3869]

time to get back in bed with the Tories Vince ?

[@dickhamilton3517]

why would he do that? have you any clue at all? Vince is a remainer, the tories are leavers, but none can agree how.

[@Devilcat26]

John Howarth wasn’t defeated

[@iknowrstank]

Lets not pretend that the Green Party was about Brexit when it was absolutely about the environment. The truth is that remain are much more divided. It’s taken many individual parties; already established parties to get to the same level as the Brexit party which is weeks old. Each of those parties have their own spending budgets and ability to reach more people than the resources of a party weeks old. If it was; as you attempt to compare it too, a yes or no equivalence that would mean a no vote would have been backed by more than the legal amount of campaign funding. So this is not accurate to equate all three parties scores together. Unless of course you wouldn’t mind pro leave parties overspending on campaigning?

[@iknowrstank]

intempify do you think you can make an argument without dismissing the intelligence of your opposition? I’m not a dolt, whatever that is 😂 The Green parties across Europe made significant gains because it’s the only party type effectively exclusively about the environment. This was not exclusive to the U.Ks Green Party. Even the leader of the Green Party has said most of their vote increase was because of the environment and not because of Brexit. It’s a false equivalency. Why vote green for remain when you can choose Lib Dem’s? Yeah it’s for MEPs I’m fully aware of what the vote is. However, many news outs are spinning this as a win for remain and using it as an indicator as to say that there should be another referendum. I agree have the referendum, I would be willing to put everything I own betting on leave. I live in Scotland, my parents voted labour their entire life and voted remain. They would now vote leave in a second ref. They didn’t vote for the Brexit party. Yeah by some margin more parties exclusively more remain. However, and this is what you seem to have misunderstood is that, each party had a spending limit during campaigning. If you have 5 parties running on remain each with the same cap and 3 parties going as leave with the same cap that means more funding was available to remain. In a referendum, that would be illegal. If it were a binary choice, which in this case it wasn’t. So you cannot equate this to a similar situation in a referendum. The maths doesn’t allow for it. This doesn’t take into consideration that a referendum would also have higher turnout which can change results as shown by the first referendum. Where the polls got it wrong, because many people voted who hadn’t before so polls in that instance were inaccurate. There’s also plenty of people who didn’t vote in the EU elections because in their mind it should never have occurred again. So you see now why the £25 donation fund towards the Brexit campaign wasn’t not that point I was making. How they get the money is a separate issue, it’s the amount they’re allowed to spend individually during campaigning. There is no need to call me a dolt. That exactly why nobody can have reasonable discussion on this issue. Get your heart out of the issue and your head into it instead.

[@better-nw2un]

Not included Conservatives and labour who voted leave, Media news mmmm

[@xm3405]

Barnsley scarred by Thatcherism voting for a Thatcherite party? what has happened.?

[@josephpoolton567]

People will soon realize what they're voting for when Farrage will have to build a manifesto; the man believes in privatization of the NHS and his working class support will collapse, he is basically a Tory

[@Jack-fs2im]

Joseph Poolton you mean a tory like Blair?

[@josephpoolton567]

@@Jack-fs2im Blair said himself that Thatcher was a source of his inspiration and Thatcher herself said that he was the only labour member she liked, so basically, yeah

[@Jack-fs2im]

Joseph Poolton exactly Labour are virtually tories now.

[@josephpoolton567]

@@Jack-fs2im even Corbyn?

[@vinm300]

2:00 Vince Cable Does anyone remember the cartoons of Ming Campbell with a Zimmer-frame for a podium on which was a glass with his teeth in and he was saying, "You're very kind". Well that's what I expected Vince to say LOL

[@jacobnighthorse7893]

The people have spoken. Brexit now or else

[@BedsitBob]

15:14 "The best way to win, is to have a reformed political system, and get away from first past the post." Move to the system, that just gave the Brexit Party a massive win?

[@Hawkeye19821]

Plaid cymru was highlighted as the party that beat Labour even though the Brexit party absolutely decimated them. Wtf.

[@jameshenrie]

Farage know European parliaments and what they are all about. I'm so happy that the briexit party won in this election.

[@popculture70]

He turns up occasionally at the EU parliament, spouts a load of conspiracy theory garbage and then goes to the pub.

[@brigold3352]

How does he if he barely sees it from the inside and not turns up for working in the fishery commision which was his special duty?

[@garsm2290]

Great report. A lot of hard work and research went into that.

[@redarmy1778]

Gar Sm i hope thats sarcasm

[@manco828]

Vince Cable is a great man, pointing out the dangerous of Fascist Farage.

[@DaDunge]

16:50 The way he said courageous makes me think of Yes Minister.

[@CaptainGrimes1]

Nothing has changed in 30 plus years has it?

[@DaDunge]

@@CaptainGrimes1 Everything always changes.

[@NeuronalAxon]

@@DaDunge - Except for when they don't.

[@DaDunge]

@@NeuronalAxon Well generally they do we are just creatures of habit so we just like to think that they don't unless something changes so dramatically that it forces us to change our views.

[@NeuronalAxon]

@@DaDunge - True. There is that. Paradigm shifts, and so on...

[@DaGleese]

"If we get the numbers and we just *skew* them ever so slightly...." What a nonsense. Appallingly one sided journalism Channel 4... The entire argument is "SPECIFICALLY a clean 100% NO DEAL ONLY Brexit" vs "ANY EXCUSE TO REMAIN, ANYONE IS WELCOME, DID YOU EVER ONCE THINK OF REMAINING AT ANY POINT? GET IN THE LIST!"

[@ElectricInevitability]

His comment about the meps not being able to block the institution tells you all you need to know about how important the eu Parliament is.

[@canman5060]

Europe is back to sanity. Please bring back all the long missed DM , Franc , and Lira as well.

[@kanaal64]

bring back all the old currencies? Europe has always been sane and will always be sane. Don't mixup EU with Europe Google showed several results this is one of them "Difference between Europe and European Union" When we speak of Europe, therefore, we refer to a geographical territory and to all the countries that make up this continent whereas European Union refers to the countries that are part of this political entity and that have to respond to it. The term "Europe" is sometimes used to refer to the European Union, and this is quite wrong because not all the countries of Europe are part of the European Union (Norway, Switzerland, Ukraine, etc.) . ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tons of texts to be found on the internet, featuring images and much more regarding this difference between Europe and European Union. Anyway the Dutch have a 4,5 or 6 party Govt. , and many small parties to vote for. It seems its not limited to a "2" party sytem, lots of coices can be made :D

[@habib3991]

the best symbol for Brexit that could ever exist is a guy in a punisher shirt talking about British politics

[@1chish]

So only suited and booted people have valid opinions? You utter plank ...

[@6thi874]

Habib Halal The best symbol for Brexit is Nigel Farage wiping the floor with all other parties that campaigned in the MEP elections.

[@habib3991]

@@1chish Farage wear's a suit a suit in every interview so i guess not

[@1chish]

@@habib3991 The planking gets worse .....

[@popculture70]

The best symbol for Brexit would be a pleb with vomit down his shirt and a can of special brew in his hand saying it's all the immigrants fault.

[@kenperenyi3958]

Farage knows how to control an interview. He good.

[@sopadurso]

He is calling attention to what May said, all the while having a miles long backlog of lies and mistaken predictions, yet no one's cares. His is not good, the supporters are moron's.

[@popculture70]

He's a conspiracy theorist and a fascist. He's privatise the NHS and cut benefits to nothing given the chance.

[@kenperenyi3958]

sopadurso Thank you !

[@deathguarddavegoogley2022]

If we do vote (again) and we get remain. Will it be a “hard” remain or a “soft” remain? We could remain but not stay in the customs union and keep our 40 billion? After all, we might not know what we were really voting for?

[@erine4431]

Used to be my favourite news program next to newsnight. Don't watch neither. Because its bias. Actually I stopped bothering with TV all together.

[@ejjohnstone1984]

I thought that's the way elections worked the party that wins ...wins, we don't normally tot up the other parties and say the winner didn't win. Also Conservative was running as a Brexit party which means they won even with ch 4 ridiculous calculations.

[@MS-19]

The weird thing about the EU elections is that - in a manner of speaking - nobody wins, because there is no national party that can gain a majority of seats by itself in the EU Parliament. That Parliament is elected by Proportional Representation, meaning that percentages signify more than they do in the UK General Elections, e.g. February 1974, in which the Conservatives had the largest percentage of the vote but didn't win the most seats. So, it makes more sense in the context of an EU election to tot up votes and analyse them in terms of rationale ("who was right, who was left, who was leave, who was remain" etc.) than it would be in a UK Election. Not that it's going to be an issue any more, of course, with Brexit ultimately having happened.... 😉

[@leonbell5141]

Love those signs in the background...so committed to their cause

[@emm_arr]

@Tediuki Suzuki "organised by channel 4" Sounds like a lie to me. "I actually thought it was the BBC ." I actually think you're a liar!

[@willjdeanie]

*so committed to overturning a democratic vote, dividing the country, stoking the flames of civil unrest and dismantling the fundamental principals of democracy itself whilst showing their utterly breathtaking contempt for the majority of the electorate in the UK. ...... that's what you meant to say.

[@emm_arr]

@@willjdeanie That's what you think he should say, "stoking the flames of civil unrest" Naff off. It's allowed to hold other views.

[@that_pac123]

Will Dean Nothing more anti-democracy than another vote. 🙄 That literally makes no sense.

[@that_pac123]

Tediuki Suzuki Everything's a conspiracy. 😂😂😂

[@johnhaywood4181]

We all know the BBC is biased but I always thought Channel 4 was more neutral - boy was I wrong. This is such a remain propaganda piece that it is hillarious.

[@crilleman7186]

Where do I vote for Channel 4 News ?

[@harles5000]

We should all be making plans with Nigel!

[@popculture70]

The song is making plans *for* Nigel.

[@NeuronalAxon]

We only want what's best for him.

[@kevintunaley5079]

sounds like the Media still has not figured it out, Change is good even though it seems frightening at first. I feel a change is going to come =]

[@bannjaxx]

change your house for a cardboard box then...its all good

[@kevintunaley5079]

@@bannjaxx that makes no sense

[@jackrussell3755]

Definitely going to be a change, i just don’t think you’re gonna like it #indyref2

[@popculture70]

Change is often great. Unfortunately, Brexit is a step backwards that will make the UK incredibly vulnerable.

[@mobbs6426]

@@bannjaxx well, you'd have a lot more money I might recommend splashing out on a tent tho, it'll last longer

[@scousemouse9715]

Macron should do the honourable thing and resign. OH I forgot Macron isn't honourable. Cheese.

[@scousemouse9715]

@Alfa&Omega 00000 No. Do I sound French? I am Scouse.

[@scousemouse9715]

@Alfa&Omega 00000 I've answered your question.

[@templemu]

I have this thing of watching the news that is two months old. Really interesting, recommended.

[@trevortaylor3774]

add up all the points you want twist it about all you want you can do what you like keep living in your dream world but the reality is that the brexit party won .in an election there can only be one primister not ten

[@gwynmorris7199]

NF interview:11:17 Spend on welfare - reduce tax - I would rather not say - and just let the idiots vote for me!!

[@ancietman]

Farages only goal was to take us out of the EU thats why he won the EU elections. When we leave our MEPs will never take their seats in Brussels so who needs policies and manifestos?. Hes now recruiting 650 candidates for a General Election in which time he will have a manifesto but looking at Labour and the Tories they are not worth the paper they are printed on anyway.

[@taffness1819]

@@ancietman only MPs vote on Brexit in the House of Parliament not MEPs how is Farage going to do what you said?

[@thisall4real]

Spin mode activated

[@Elrond_Hubbard_1]

I'm not European or British so I have no stake in anything, but just my 2 cents, that Farage guy looks _really_ fkn slimy.