Brexit: 'When will the UK realise it failed?' | James O'Brien on LBC

[@TheFridge0x]

My wives family all voted for Brexit, they all holiday in the EU and are planning to purchase property and move away from the UK. They are now complaining its harder to go on holiday or move to the continent. I always point out this was the most obvious thing that was likely to happen and they still dont admit to brexit being terrible.

[@jockauld3966]

I have property in Germany, warn them against Germany as a place to settle. We are spiralling downward economically. When DE bottoms out, the EU will collapse.

[@26dipp56]

Same here. 2 members of the family members who voted for Brexit have got an Irish passport - because of Brexit fall out.

[@haneytr3s]

Be careful what you ask for you just might get it.

[@yojimbo103]

The slow clap has definitely been awarded.

[@1bigleapoffaith]

Their failure is spectacular.

[@jamaicantillidie6626]

Their Arrogance and Ignorance will not allow them to admit they failed. It was arrogance and ignorance why Brexit happened in the first place.

[@RealMash]

All correct, but greed, xenophobia and sheer stupidity should not be counted out.

[@alanjewell9550]

A significant number of them have died! It's 8 years since the very unconvincing referendum. Why are we running scared of talking about this? There's no appetite for brexit, & very debatable there ever really was. It was a lie & a con from the get go.

[@AndrewWilliams-ry6tb]

Oh! The arrogance and ignorance of people who don't agree with me. Both arrogant, and ignorant. Cope!

[@JPG0072]

​@@RealMashIt's called democracy you melt

[@vullings1968]

​@@AndrewWilliams-ry6tbWell, the ignorance bit has been called out now. How many of the 17.4 million had any idea what was going to happen? They voted for something that they couldn't predict the consequences of. I would say that pretty much sums up ignorance.

[@WarV9]

People don't like to admit they were wrong. Politicians NEVER admit they were wrong. I listened to Boris Johnson on a podcast making excuses for literally everything that happened while he was in power

[@alanjewell9550]

No one gives a toss about past Tories. What the new leadership thinks is more important as if the Tory Party remains pro brexit, the EU will be very wary. The issue is more the mood of the country. And a significant number of those that voted for brexit have died. The referendum is becoming ancient history which is why we need to bring this conversation right up to date & end this ridiculous silence. So what if Nigel Farage throws his toys out of the pram. Spends more time in the US than here anyway.

[@vullings1968]

​@@alanjewell9550I think it does matter... With British FPTP voting system there is absolutely no guarantee that the next govt couldn't be Tory again. Maybe even coupled with Reform. 4 years of talks with EU could be undone. Talks which even haven't started, and Starmer being adamant that he doesn't want to reverse brexit in his lifetime. That is a very poor basis to work on.

[@alanjewell9550]

@@vullings1968 Yes, that's why I said past Tories don't matter, but present ones do. And the fptp system as we have seen can allow an extreme minority to take control. It's clear that the electoral system needs to change so this can't happen. Also needs to happen to qualify for EU membership according to the Copenhagen Protocol - have representative democracy...

[@Prometheus4096]

Voters will immediately vote out of office any politician that admits they were wrong.

[@morvil73]

Rampant Narcissism among the power- and controlhungry….

[@Zeropointill]

Like the US, the UK seems to have a real problem realizing things.

[@Fisthammet]

Should we all shave our heads and join the leftist cult?

[@davidhoyles8595]

realizing self determination

[@stuc3195]

Who is the UK?

[@davidhoyles8595]

@@stuc3195 should it be, what is the uk?

[@tcaprecap1448]

The UK is much smarter than the US when it comes to realising things, since they at least voted out the tories for causing so many problems, whereas the US saw all the awful stuff that trump did, including stealing countless top-secret classified documents (for which trump would only have one use: to sell; it's not like he's a historian or an intellectual) and yet they still voted him in a second time. It would be quite hilarious if it wasn't so serious.

[@RH1812]

The similarities between the referendum and folk in the US currently googling ‘what is a tariff’ speaks volumes. Personally I don’t think the UK will return to being a part of the EU for many years, but that doesn’t preclude closer trading and travel options. Just takes talking

[@daftgowk1]

The Tories are just an old money toffee nosed version of the republikkklans. No quarter for the party of malicious rule and mass manslaughter.

[@beckynelson6786]

You are spot on.

[@michaelmurphy1127]

THe EU is crumbling.

[@spencerburke]

The UK doesn't get to decide if it rejoins. The EU does. There's very little appetite to re-admit the member that was always the most troublesome. The UK ruling class needs to learn its lesson first before it can leave the dunce's corner.

[@bladebrown1008]

It's almost as if 1 single issue was blinding both groups that once they got what they wanted it freed them up to finally focus on the more important issue. But unfortunately too late.

[@Emanon...]

Overheard in Bruxelles: _"Yeah, We're not doing too well. But it could be worse, we could be Britain!"_

[@lestrem11]

Before Labour formed a government we had the highest growth in the g7.

[@Emanon...]

@@lestrem11 "Before labour"... Sure mate. The entire British economy flipped before they even had a budget let alone implementation of one, right? You sound absolutely deranged.

[@Bertrum123]

@@lestrem11 ha ha ye wasnt it great. been to a/e lately .wheres the 350 mill a week for the nhs the cheap food and clothes promised .brexit braught to us by nigel farage the man who said liz trusses budget was the best he had seen since 1985 .lol .

[@Bertrum123]

@@Emanon... Reform mate .they think farage is the Messiah 👍

[@lestrem11]

@@Bertrum123 With the UK tanking in every direction I think it is time to compare Reeves with Truss. The budget was said to be ‘all about growth’, child. Growth stopped the day the budget was announced . Tragic. It now appears that Reeves isn’t even an economist……..wow.

[@biganttalks4689]

Wait...there are still people who generally believe BREXIT was a success? Must be in a state of shock.

[@randar1969]

There always be people you can find who benefit the abolishment of some of the European laws. It's unfortunate though most didn't realize where it was a benefit to them. Hence some even didn't know those where EU laws in the first place.

[@DemonstrableRealist]

@@randar1969look at this word salad. Meaningless guff.

[@lk-music]

@@randar1969 Which European laws have been abolished? It looks like they're not being abolished, but assimilated.

[@insomniacbritgaming1632]

It would've been if we had politicians with a spine... reindustrualisation would've made it a huge success

[@insomniacbritgaming1632]

​@@randar1969 we wrote most of those EU laws 🤣 ECHR was our idea

[@mattwho81]

Brexit was like watching your local library being burned down by people who can’t read.

[@yorkshiremgtow1773]

@@mattwho81 the EU is a pointless layer of government which appears to 'fix' problems caused by too much government in the member-states, in the first place.

[@Lawrence4000-s3k]

If you lived in the working-class areas the chances are that the library had already been closed-down by Osborne. I don't blame people for voting against the status-quo when it had clearly failed.

[@fazerianducati]

It is easier to fool people than to convince them they’ve been fooled.

[@hectorpascal]

NO... it's MUCH easier...

[@paulgibbons2320]

Thats why they are deploying the whole media engine to undermine brexit.​@@hectorpascal

[@TroelsNybo1st]

For my own part, I am rather reluctant to admit, that I have EVER been fooled, but perhaps that's just me...

[@TroelsNybo1st]

@@fazerianducati Being a Dane, I had nothing to do with Brexit, but I did take part in some Danish referendums regarding EU, and I did change my mind. Not because I felt that I had been fooled, but because the world had changed.

[@fazerianducati]

@@TroelsNybo1stFair enough

[@BallooSky]

Another benefit, slipped in recently. Your UK driving license is invalid if you are in EU states for any length of time.

[@brearleydavid2194]

This is only in some EU counties....France where I have lived and worked for 20 years....your driving license is valid....until the current one runs out. 😮

[@stuc3195]

@@BallooSky not true at all. If you're visiting you can drive in the EU on your UK licence. If you live in the EU you should exchange your UK licence for a local one to the country you live in. That's it

[@BallooSky]

@@stuc3195 what I said yes

[@stuc3195]

@BallooSky ah OK. It sounded like you were making a point that another Brexit "benefit" was you could no longer drive in the EU with a UK licence.

[@stuc3195]

@Caerdan no you don't. If you have a UK driving licence it can be exchanged for the one local to the country you are resident in. There is no requirement to take a test for your normal licenced driver.

[@acrodave9287]

If 99 out of 100 people *know* that a grossly manipulated and potentially permanent snap decision has been a provable disaster and a Really Bad Call and one person keeps insiting that it's been an unqualified success, it's probably a bad idea to put that one person in charge of the whole circus. And yet here we are.

[@stuc3195]

Who's the one person?

[@TheOutsider840]

That's sensationalist nonsense. WeThink polling consistently shows there is a majority for staying out when the requirement to commit to adopting the Euro is factored in (which would apply as a requirement when rejoining).

[@acrodave9287]

@stuc3195 Not at home to Mr. contextually easily understood metaphor are we?

[@acrodave9287]

@TheOutsider840 Sensationalist? My word, I always thought that was the monopoly of a billionaire owned media, it just goes to show how wrong you can be. Out of interest, do you take *all* of your stats from just one polling source that just happens to confirm your existing opinion, or do you cast a wide view across all of them and arrive at a mean average concensus, albeit a general indicator? I'm sure that if you want a poll result that suits you, you can easily find one. "Bloke Down the Pub Said" is very popular nowadays, or so I've heard.

[@RobertoLeo3]

It's been successful for rich people.

[@TroelsNybo1st]

I sit in my peaceful Danish village and find myself almost as completely incapable of understanding British politics as USAmerican ditto.

[@jaapruzius7976]

Same here in my peaceful village in the green north of The Netherlands

[@NovaTheKelpie]

And in a peaceful village in Norway, I sit, a Dane, wondering about everything

[@TroelsNybo1st]

@@NovaTheKelpie The ability to wonder is one of the best and most important human abilities that can be had... (Forunderligt at sige, og sært at tænke paa...)

[@Saje3D]

We Americans get most of our dumber assumptions from Britain. As our old anti drug advertisement used to say “We learned it from you, Dad.”

[@geertstroy]

på svenska....vidunderligt at tänka på , svårt att säga.... är det rätt sagt , jag är inte så överbevist av mina språk kunskaper i svenska språket dog... därför att jag är från Nederländerna....mmmm....

[@Jhhgftghjjj]

Brexit for EU has had a positive effect. For many different reasons but one being not to have to deal with these islanders that were mostly trouble makers. Plus numerous other reasons. I feel sorry for the common people. They pay the price.

[@paulc8799]

Alas, 'The common people' you speak of are those who actually voted to leave. For me there is little difference, one part of England doesn't make a lot of difference between another part of England. For me it is pretty simple: England wanted out. You got that, now let the UK break up and let Scotland and NI go. Wales is a problem, maybe. England can drown.

[@Lawrence4000-s3k]

@@paulc8799 'England can drown"! You're a right one, Paul. Why would the UK break-up? The desire for Scottish independence has declined and Wales voted for Brexit. NI has always been free to go but there's never been a majority in NI for that to happen. Do you really think Brexit is that big an issue? For most people it's completely unimportant now. the vote was 8 years ago and we will never rejoin the EU as its presently constituted.

[@TheHOOD-ip7ke]

The rest of the world has moved on and we are left shouting, hello anybody there 😂

[@foxkillingtime]

Hello................................hello.....hell......o.....

[@davidhoyles8595]

rest of the world "let us come and live with you"

[@SirDavidCattenborough]

@@Connor-o9q countries.

[@SirDavidCattenborough]

and 'their', haha

[@foxkillingtime]

@@Connor-o9q it's their And it's Countries. Other than that you're doing really well. You can move up to middle school soon.

[@oliverseitz9215]

Nobody wants UK back in EU. Everybody knows that UK would try to leave with a better deal. UK does not regret Brexit, they regret that it did not play out as expected.

[@hudsonrolfe9633]

If he said Brexit was bad then the Tory headbangers and reform would have a meltdown over "politicisation", "experts" and we need to "leave the jurisdiction of the bank of England"

[@CoralRead-qr5en]

Yes cos labour and BLAIR before all this did no harm at all. all the red or blue the governments full of muppets. people vote on emotional bias rather than face facts they are all bums.

[@daraorourke5798]

Sell it to Musk innih?

[@joeplant7027]

This is it. It isn't his job to step around this, it's his job to make a point (lean towards the EU). However, if he can make that point without stoking more tension then well done him.

[@dwdei8815]

Fond of metaphors? The Brexiteer is your loudmouth flatmate who just saw the phrase "To make an omelette you've got to break eggs" for the first time, went to the kitchen, smashed all the eggs on the floor and now sits on the sofa demanding you turn the mess into an omelette.

[@AndrewWilliams-ry6tb]

Honestly. That is rather poor.

[@MrEnglish-t5p]

Absolutely pathetic

[@SteveStevieboy]

Brexit hasn’t been implemented so how can it have failed 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MrEnglish-t5p]

@ precisely

[@grouchomarxist666]

@@SteveStevieboy Huh? The UK officially left the EU on Jan. 31 2020. Been living under a rock, or just living off FoxNews?

[@stephenhodgson3506]

James like many who want to rejoin suffer from exactly the same thing the the Brexiteers suffer from, namely British exceptionalism. The re-joiners suffer from the thought that if we accept it was a mistake then the EU will take us back because we are British. It simply doesn't work like that. We quite the club and caused a huge amount of chaos to the EU in leaving and constantly caused problems when we were members. Just why should they want us back? We are a great example to all the existing members of just how bad things can be by choosing to Leave. There were plenty of political parties in the EU that were of the same mind as UKIP who having seen the mess we created for ourselves and the economic chaos will now talk of many things but leaving is off the agenda. The people of the EU need to see just what a mistake it was to leave and the hardship it causes before they will even consider letting us back in. However we will never be re-joining we will be re-applying to be members. That means that we will have to agree to accept the EURO and join the Schengen Area. The EU will want to ensure that we can't become members and then once again threaten chaos if we don't get our way by ensuring we no longer have a currency to return to. Starmer recognises this and probably also realises that the older generation needs to die off before we would even be considered for membership. again. Labour may try to move closer to the EU but they hold all the cards and they and only they will be the ones who determine any timetable for us to become members again.

[@clarecrawford9677]

Not ‘British exceptionalism’, please. Scotland voted to remain in the EU, as did Northern Ireland, although not technically British.

[@TheOutsider840]

@@clarecrawford9677 it is British exceptionalism. There are many cranks in Scotland and NI too who think rejoining is simply a case of UK asking to come back in. It's not a unilateral decision and there will be various assurances that need to be made to give confidence there won't be a Brexit 2.0 in the near future

[@RealMash]

@@TheOutsider840 Again, you show British exceptionalism ;-) There will be no negotiations, no special deals., no special requirements. Just Article 49 and fulfill Copenhagen criteria. Which the UK fails by quite a margin today. 35 years of work can be expected.

[@ulfosterberg9116]

​@@TheOutsider840and then there is the the veto every member state have. Do you belive they all will be voting YES?

[@Auctorion]

The argument that the EU needs to mount us on a pike as a warning is fine and all, but it’s easily handwaved by other eurosceptic parties by saying they would be the exception. It would carry a lot more weight if we rejoined and it led to a swift recovery. Not only would leaving have been ruinous, returning would prove to be restorative.

[@lloydbelle3406]

"Whilst respecting that very important decision..." Effectively the BofE Governor is protecting the egos of Brexiteers who are continuing to pat themselves on the back for Brexit.

[@macheneso2011]

How many other EU countries have followed the UK’s example? The answer to this question alone is enough to understand that it was a big mistake.

[@yorkshiremgtow1773]

No, it's not. The other EU countries just haven't caught up. The EU does nothing that actual free trade, and freedom of movement, doesn't do better.

[@catherineblockelet9382]

Even Marine Le Pen, the far right presidential candidate has ditched Frexit from her program thanks to the Brexit disaster...

[@yorkshiremgtow1773]

@@catherineblockelet9382 'disaster' is an opinion, not a fact. If the EU is the answer, what's the question?

[@jacob9327]

​@@yorkshiremgtow1773 the question is how do you organize freedom of trade and freedom of movement in the most effective way. EU is the answer

[@yorkshiremgtow1773]

@@jacob9327 how do you 'organise' freedom of trade and freedom of movement? You don't. You simply allow it to happen. That's it.

[@ljisbister3211]

Can anyone name an actual "Brexit Benefit"? Anyone? And I don't mean meaningless comments about 'sovereignty', I mean a real discernable benefit.

[@Paul-eb4jp]

We've been asking for years without a response.

[@ripperrouge5985]

we don't give 52 billion pounds to the EU each year anymore 😁hope this helps

[@Blue_3rd]

Tumbleweed.

[@buddy1155]

Easy, we got rid of the UK sabotaging the EU.

[@medievelknevil8716]

The only one I can think of is that now we are not in the EU. we can now tax private schools!

[@derekwhyle1884]

Cameron is the real villain. He knew Brexit would be damaging for the nation but lacked the guts to stand up to his rebels. Sunak brought him back into public life, I hope he now crawls off back under his stone and stays there.

[@LA-fr7fx]

Agree, Cameron should never have allowed a referendum. We had a great deal with the EU, with so many cherry picked opt outs. We are now in decline...

[@RobertoLeo3]

People voted for it - Brexit was a great thing in terms of democracy. Just not in any other way. People can also vote to go back into the EU if they want...

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

Unlike Major who stood up to them and they folded like a cheap suit

[@porkyprimecut1834]

Cameron is a lord for the rest of his life. Thanked for destroying the country with the help of his Bullingdonboy chum Boris Johnson. There was no "remain campaign" because they both wanted to leave the EU.

[@paulworster3683]

@@LA-fr7fx no you fool, Cameron went to the EU and the EU said no. they had multiple times to compromise and give Britain a better deal didn't...so we had a referendum and the people said on your bike after getting a surprise EU bill land on our doorstep out of no where. if you think its Cameron put your rose tinted glasses down for a second and look at the actual facts of the situation.

[@mangosamosa4378]

Watch how all the "winners" come out and moan about why you're still talking about this.

[@JwayT]

How's the re-join the EU campaign going?

[@daveturner4134]

@@JwayT Watch the video. It's going better than yesterday, and it will be better tomorrow. How's Russia?

[@bladebrown1008]

​@@JwayTwell I'm pretty sure the re-join the EU campaign hasn't lost y'all billions.

[@JonS]

@@JwayT it's inevitable. It just will likely take another 25 years or more for it to be possible to have a serious conversation about it.

[@JwayT]

@daveturner4134 How exactly is it going better?

[@RichardForster-gu1ww]

Didnt the EU say "there was no cherry picking?"

[@RealMash]

Since when does the UK understand no in any way or form. But you will learn, how many years of suffering it takes.

[@chindit6784]

​@@RealMashDo you get your kicks insulting people that didnt even want brexit.

[@oliverraven]

Thing is, from the moment Thatcher banged her handbag on the table in Fontainebleau and demanded a rebate, right up until January 2020 there very much was cherry-picking. In the case of rejoining, there would likely be none.

[@trident6547]

@@chindit6784 He was speaking of UK. Your governments represent all of the people. That is the sad fact for those that wanted to remain.

[@iaingraham7586]

@@RealMash Britain and Denmark had legal exemptions from the Eurozone due to having joined the EU before the mid nineties. Britain preserved that exemption in David Cameron's Remain Deal (he got more, but that deal was not on the 2016 Referendum ballot) Britain is unlikely to have opt-outs if it joins the EU. Point being, Britain had autonomy in the EU when it was a member.

[@martynblackburn9632]

Now they are all saying "Brexit would have worked if only..."

[@jamjam2833]

Now you’re saying we’d have been better off if only…

[@adrien5834]

@@jamjam2833 If only Brexit had not happened, sure. That's always been the position of Remainers.

[@paologat]

… if only Brexiteers had migrated en masse to any of the remote islands far from Europe that remain under British rule, and declared independence.

[@Non-Doctors-Music]

I can do that too ... If we'd have stayed in the EU we'd have more sovereignty now and be 25% wealthier. Brexit was a packet of used condoms sold as caviar.

[@Glasstable2011]

“… the EU had done everything leavers wanted without question or exception.”

[@abhishekpandey3244]

So Brexit was essentially the worst 'F around and find out' incident in Britain's history? Atleast financially.

[@alistairrayners]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@yorkshiremgtow1773]

The EU does nothing that real free trade doesn't do better.

[@carrie5490]

@@yorkshiremgtow1773problem is that no one is offering any free trade currently so we have no eu and nothing else on the table

[@yorkshiremgtow1773]

@@carrie5490 all that needs to happen, is that the EU disbands, and free trade will begin again.

[@sadjaxx]

Yes! And much more than financially.

[@andyfoth66]

I've just read Barnier's diary and it's quite staggering that no-one in the Torg party of beyond had any concept of the seismic shift this is. They were incapable of understanding why the EU simply couldn't give us a better deal than everyone else despite the fact that this was obvious to anyone who had the remotest concept of how trade works

[@samhartford8677]

Still isn't, if one looks at the Labour/rejoiner ideas...

[@andyfoth66]

@samhartford8677 I think that's a peculiarly English thing where we don't seem to be capable of confronting the obvious and would rather persevere with a stiff upper lip. We could learn a lot from the European's in this respect where they are able to compromise in tricky situations. All we get is 'will of the people' etc and move on.........

[@SuperRipper1888]

​@@andyfoth66yes. The last thing we want is democracy isn't it? 😂😂

[@andyfoth66]

@SuperRipper1888 so go on then for the benefit of the idiots who voted remain what exactly was it that you achieved with Brexit ? - apart from economic suicide.

[@andyfoth66]

@SuperRipper1888 it wasn't democracy though was it ? - neither Scotland or Northerin Ireland wanted it but they got it as well. It was the most ill conceived 'vote' ever a bit like voting for Christmas. If one more person voted for Brexit it was decided. So let's have all your Brexit benefits then ?

[@stephfoxwell4620]

Leaving the EU was a random act of sheer madness.

[@chosen-j1i]

Not when they dominate our country and way of life in every way.

[@TheOutsider840]

How so? How do you know that leave didn't align better with other people's values and political ambitions? Are you suggesting people were mad just because they voted for something you disagree with?

[@HarryNottings]

​@@TheOutsider840They're mad because they fell for obvious lies that the EU was the cause of our problems If you fell for it that's not a difference of opinion, it simply is not true

[@emekaokoye6388]

Share madness for you!!

[@darlik1]

​@@TheOutsider840you seem to be one of the levers that doesn't understand consequences and can't think for themselves.😅🇸🇪🇪🇺

[@paulelverstone8677]

To date - over 8yrs later - I'm still trying to find a single significant benefit of leaving the EU...

[@dave2408]

While on balance I voted remain I did look at the other side Mates joiners 35 years experience in reality craftsmen On a complex job they get £30 an hour which is pretty reasonable Yet they were competing with lads from Poland charging £15 So that was ridiculous and they all voted leave I can see why

[@andrewglover9874]

@@dave2408 I bet those lads from Poland are still undercutting them even now.

[@dave2408]

@@andrewglover9874 oh without doubt it’s still going on

[@danmayberry1185]

Brexit has turned US trade from important to absolutely necessary. The disempowerment that keeps giving.

[@Paul-eb4jp]

We have to tread very carefully around any trade deals with the USA, they'll want access to the NHS and they'll finish off UK farming.

[@gdfggggg]

Trade with the US has always been extremely important, whether in or out of the EU.

[@FrostekFerenczy]

The US will rake us over the coals because they can. Or we could build stronger ties with the EU.

[@goblinwisdom]

We're still at the back of the queue and any deal we've got has been a severe disadvantage for us.

[@goblinwisdom]

The majority of uk trade has been with Europe​ @gdfggggg plus with America doing trump again with project 2025 and rise of Christo fascism there

[@markfenlon7049]

Sadly, the UK is in terminal decline, Brexit, Covid, added to our wows but we lost the plot many years before these events. We have no home grown car industry, we lost our motorcycle industry, shipbuilding's gone, numerous more examples. UK farming is going under. We've given up. Would the EU have us back?....I doubt it.

[@BjørjaBear]

I think the European Union would have the UK back, but it would be very difficult, and it would be on much less advantageous terms than your previous arrangement. No doubt every one of the 27 countries would have their own demands into such negotiations. You had the best possible deal, and you carelessly threw it away. That being said, we are stronger together. There are two kinds of countries in Europe, there are small countries, and there are countries that haven't understood that they are small yet. China, India and the US, as nation states, dwarfs any European country. The future in Europe lies within cooperation within the EU, it is the only way we can compete.

[@evertonfrancis640]

A serious question. Can anyone please inform me of a better trading relationship than the one we had with the EU ( except when the empire was in existence )?

[@mickreaddin4979]

Errr... give me a minute, ahem... erm, thinking very hard... err no.

[@LL-vk9zc]

The Empire wasn't a 'relationship'. It was theft.

[@-slasht]

I will adopt a neutral position on this question

[@atanaskrastev4491]

No😢

[@TheOutsider840]

Perhaps you should learn why 17.4 mn voted against it?

[@chassetterfield9559]

You used the phrase " half the country voted for ...... "; but that's not the case. One quarter [ 17.4 million ] of the population voted to leave, & the other three quarters of us have to live with the consequences of their action.

[@frankoneill5675]

All eligible voters had the option to vote. Anyone who didn't vote implicitly accepts whatever result there is. The percentage vote is the percentage of those who chose to vote

[@tmeagland5168]

And a quarter of those 17.4 million are now deceased

[@vullings1968]

This argument is just an excuse, and way past its relvance. There was a referndum where every eligable voter got a chance to say yes or no. Whether enough young people didn't turn up, or elder people did, is irrelevant now. Furthermore it was made worse by election results of 2019. Before that there also was a referendum on the voting system. You might also add Corbyn and trade unions advising to vote Leave to that. All in all, brexit happened with a democratic mandate. No point looking back at that. Better look forward on how to improve things

[@jamesgravil9162]

@@frankoneill5675 One of the problems with democracy is old people tend to vote more reliably than younger people. But it's the young people who have to live with the consequences. Maybe voting should be mandatory like it is in Australia, or people over a certain age shouldn't be allowed to vote. If you're 85, you probably shouldn't be making decisions that will have long-lasting effects.

[@frankoneill5675]

@@jamesgravil9162 Possibly, but the issue here is the legitimacy of the 2016 referendum

[@alansmith4655]

Never. The hark back to empire is way too strong in some people.

[@Yoshiia]

They loved when Ireland were arguing during Brexit negotiations. After Ireland won, securing the Windsor Framework, Ireland moved swiftly on, leaving the UK asking "what just happened" ?

[@Paul-eb4jp]

Mark Carney the previous governor warned us but people stuck their fingers in their ears while he was speaking.

[@paulbird3235]

They were full of Murdoch's red mist, and thought they were punishing the EU. This decision was taken out of pure spite, NOT RATIONAL THINKING.

[@CatherineWatson-e9d]

He was the only one. Lots of experts warned us. Wasn't it Hove who said we've had enough of experts?

[@CatherineWatson-e9d]

Sorry * wasn't the only one

[@Lawrence4000-s3k]

And the previous governor Mervyn King disagreed with him. It merely shows there's disagreement.

[@AndyCampbellMusic]

All about greed power and control.. Rich people want to get richer. That means taking money from poor people. Nobody ever talks about having a maximum amount of money an individual or corporation can control.

[@GoldenAdhesive]

Yes this is the biggest weakness of modern capitalism

[@williamwigmore1968]

Go read an economics textbook on productivity rises.

[@robupsidedown]

It is neoliberalism, 'the wealth pump', and the well is nearly dry...

[@AndyCampbellMusic]

@williamwigmore1968 Go look at an honest assessment of exploitation. Nobody minds discrepancy between wealth but too wide a discrepancy is bad. That's what needs addressing. Greedy parasites are not necessary. Overpaying underpaying bad. Only greedy, selfish ruthless people don't care about this..

[@AndyCampbellMusic]

@@williamwigmore1968 Go read a book on exploitation.

[@brianferguson7840]

Post Brexit Britain 🇬🇧 Half the country clutching their pearls! Half the country clutching at straws!

[@jeffrejr1]

And a flood of immigrants from the commonwealth because we lost a massive skilled workforce

[@robertozanconato4992]

The Governor can’t take a neutral position (by law). He has to take the necessary action to control inflation. If Brexit is relevant he has to take that into account.

[@jugatsumikka]

I might overread his discourse, but he might try to be diplomatic toward the feeling of the hard brexiteers who are in your government currently (and still believe it to be a success), so he can protect his job (and ultimately the institution he leads) from the insanity of your government and a potential yes-man they might place in his position.

[@johnnypatterson7512]

It's the same as trying to say Israel is just defending themselves.

[@andrewcolleyproperties4211]

And Hamas give a toss about the Palestinian people spending vastly more on arms and tunnels than hospitals and housing

[@Professor_Pink]

​@@andrewcolleyproperties4211In 2023, Hamas' annual budget was 590 million. It spent 100 million on military spending, and 240 million on health. Israel spent 106 billion on its military and 26 billion on health. Your accusation is actually false about Hamas, and ironically true about Israel.

[@andrewcolleyproperties4211]

@@Professor_Pink make sure you are on the right side of history, the Germans denied the holocaust!

[@andrewcolleyproperties4211]

@@Professor_Pink In sum, Hamas’s record of human rights abuses against its own population includes severe repression of political opposition, restrictions on women's rights, persecution of LGBTQ+ individuals, and the use of extrajudicial violence against perceived enemies. These actions have contributed to a climate of fear and oppression in Gaza long before the outbreak of violence on October 7.

[@xTunafishx]

​@@Professor_Pinkyou dont build a tunnel system as large as the London underground on 100m 😂

[@maxanderson8872]

The EU probably misses British goods and resources, but they respect the decision to leave and have made workarounds for the lost trade. Life goes on for them. Britain has been crippled, and the EU has been mildly inconvenienced

[@Esemptius]

What British goods does the EU miss exactly? There is nothing that we could get from the UK that we can't get elsewhere.

[@maxanderson8872]

There are plenty of British companies that are talking about how they are losing customers due to export/import fees and delivery delays. Like I said, the EU would rather get things like wool or timber from Britain, but can get them elsewhere. Longer travel distances, yet still cheaper and faster than dealing with British exports

[@Ralph_NL]

British goods? Like?

[@CoolSocialist]

*Brexit...one of the biggest self owns.* 🇪🇺🇬🇧

[@pazitor]

I'm even changing my favorite tea now that Twinings is so expensive in the EU. With that, there is nothing remaining in everyday life to ever bring the UK to mind, as if it were gone. Brexit did mean exit.

[@paologat]

Twinings moved some of its production lines to the EU, didn’t you know? My Earl Grey Sovereign Tea bags read “manufactured in the EU from imported ingredients”.

[@RobertoLeo3]

All teas taste the same anyway

[@danielcraig4974]

​@RobertoLeo3 No they don't

[@michaelrowsell1160]

Yes all the British products have disappeared from shops in Spain .

[@jeffh8803]

That’s only because the EU decided to have a spiteful divorce. There is no inherent reason that much had to change in the trade sphere except the EU making it hurt as much as possible to warn other countries against following.

[@LalaDepala_00]

I am Dutch and I have a friend here in the Netherlands who is an English immigrant (I refuse to say expat). She has to pay €2000 every time she fails the (pretty difficult) dutch language exam. Other EU-immigrants don't have to do this. She has quite a worse deal than them, even when moving to another country.

[@rb1062]

You don't sound like a nice friend if you call them an immigrant.

[@LalaDepala_00]

​@@rb1062 Is immigrant a bad word in your eyes?

[@rb1062]

@@LalaDepala_00 Read your comment. You make it sound so. There is a difference on the perception of ex pats and immigrants. You refuse to call your friend an ex pat.

[@Shadowman42z]

@@rb1062key word is perception there is nothing inherently wrong with being an immigrant. Your own perception of the word is leading you to the wrong conclusion

[@encoreunefois1X]

3 days after the referendum a friend of 40 years told me after hearing me say how down I felt at the result, that he had voted leave. When I asked "What did you do that for?" his response was "I dunno, it'll be an adventure."

[@JMD-er5jq]

who does he think he is Peter Pan

[@stuc3195]

​@@JMD-er5jqI voted for Brexit purely to give a poke in the eye to people like yourself and James OBrien. Your friend probably did the same

[@stephenphillips4609]

@@stuc3195 I hope you're happy with the damage you've done...just to poke people in the eye

[@stephenphillips4609]

People can be remarkably foolish

[@johnboren8928]

@@stuc3195 Your politics are based on "giving a poke in the eye" to people you don't like?

[@john-r-edge]

Brexit even worse than electing Trump - that pain only lasts four years.

[@paulinetill1043]

I'd take TRUMP over Starlin any day of the week

[@rodemadoli]

donald trump the voice of reason

[@BurnCKC]

​@@paulinetill1043at least Starmer is trying to fix our issues. Trump is all about himself.

[@paulinetill1043]

@@BurnCKC Whatever Starlin creates more issues he doesn't fix anything and he won't because he hates our country and the British. As for Trump you just believe all the lies about him but that's your choice we'll just have to disagree about them both

[@SweetJeopardy]

Not when the U.S. just re-elected him. That pain's been dictating American politics and political discourse for 10 years now, and we still have another full term ahead of us. 😩

[@divinity176]

Increased sovereignty was the only argument for Brexit that seemed valid - I say increased rather than absolute because all international agreements involve some loss of sovereignty. While valid, it was never persuasive to me - as tested on this show several times, very few people can name the EU laws they like or dislike. In any case, the UK supported the vast majority of EU legislation. Oft repeated lies about Brexit allowing faster vaccine rollout or allowing the aid that has been given to Ukraine notwithstanding (I do wish Boris would be called out to his face when he repeats that guff).

[@dooley-ch]

When are you going to cop on? You live in a country with no constitution, an unelected head of state, an unelected upper house, a PM who can use the king's prerogative to subvert parliament and a king who has interfered with the operation of parliament to his advantage. You never had sovereignty, the country has always been run for the benefit of the upper classes and the only break on them was the EU.

[@paulbird3235]

The UK were drip fed a diet of anti-EU rheteric by the likes of Murdoch and his cronies for years, and eventually it worked. They didnt sell the policy, they sold the hatred. And the public didn't realise the implications of their decision.

[@RobertoLeo3]

It's fake really because without the EU we become more reliant on the US and other countries. So now we have to cede sovereignty to them instead if we want a trade deal - e.g. the US has much lower standards on food than the EU. Also now if Trump sneezes we have to wipe his nose to avoid falling out with him

[@jodonnell8625]

“We must respect the wishes of the British people” how often is this trotted out as if politicians ever respected voters’ wishes? Leaving the EU is increasingly apparent as a huge mistake. Someone in Labour should have the cajones to admit this and rejoin the CU and Single Market at least.

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

The only vote that counted was the ENGLISH VOTE AS ALWAYS. Nothing BRITISH about it.

[@scooby1992]

It wont happen while ever a majority of the British Written media is pro Brexit .

[@johnregan2443]

Labour wouldn't dare risk pushing to rejoin ,because there just isn't the support for it you.and the remainers, think there is - again!

[@frankoneill5675]

Not possible

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

@@johnregan2443 Not in your bubble of self existence maybe but here in the real world a vote to return would win by a greater margin than the vote to take us out did.

[@wrestle2uk]

Andrew Bailey got the governorship because he agreed to go along with Brexit. Bailey has buyer's remorse. His legacy is under threat because of the catastrophe Brexit clearly is. Mark Carney his much-esteemed predecessor called Brexit out for the economic disaster it was sure to become.

[@mikerobertson7082]

I don’t read what he says as ‘neutral’… in the speak of people in a role like his, that was not a neutral position

[@barrywalls7175]

Because there's only one correct answer, Brexit has been a disaster

[@vullings1968]

Of course you can be neutral. When you have objective facts, he has a duty to call them out, together with the cause of them. If he didn't, he wouldn't be neutral.

[@baldwin9180]

Before Brexit Holland was always on UK's side with any vote to be given in Brussels. Still the UK betrayed her faithfull partner and let it to to mercy of Germany and France. Still we are economic partners in a diminishing amount of trade. We respect her choice and wish her luck in her splendid isolation. But never call on Holland's vote again. Other markets outside the UK have been found and for courses in the english language we can go to our EU partner Ireland.

[@michaelrowsell1160]

The EU is suffering as well as the UK . They have not gained new trading partners to make up for the of the UK.

[@LeonLShaw]

why punish a peoples for the actions of their government?

[@MsCharlieBrown78]

It didn't fail for the Tories. They straight up lied, and knew what was going to happen. It failed for the rest of us.

[@Steve-co1ic]

The UK drove itself off a cliff and as we plunge ever so slowly into world insignificance we are still told to shut up and admire the view

[@yorkshiremgtow1773]

What does the EU do, that free trade cannot do?

[@PaulTalksGamesMags]

Yes but as we are told by the hard of thinking, "we can't get Brexit thanks to MPs stopping it" I mean it this isn't Brexit why have things got so bad?

[@billybollockhead5628]

Surely for it to have "failed" there had to have been an actual benefit to it in the first place? Just like Trump voters, Brexit voters cant seem to be able to say exactly how they thought it was going to benefit them..

[@zl132]

Sovereignty! BLUE PASSPORTS!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheOutsider840]

They have told you the benefits. You haven't been listening. Look up the 3 prime motivations for voting leave (per the Ashcroft polls). All have been delivered.

[@miniwhaledropit2738]

Clearly a remain voter who lost. Sorry to disappoint you

[@darlik1]

​@@zl132🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@billybollockhead5628]

@@miniwhaledropit2738 : Seems to be the only "benefit" was to "upset the remain voters"? Because no-one can give me any other way it benefited them - and, watching James videos, neither can the callers in. I can honestly say I personally benefited from being in the EU, and I can give many examples (from my business exporting there easily, to me being able to live and work there freely), but yet - i know for a fact you have not benefited personally one bit from being out of it.

[@gen_x_dad]

There is no point negotiating with the current English government, when we all know how long an English promise lasts...

[@jimhud134]

We voted remain purely to keep the right to live in any of the European countries, now it seems we’re stuck here.

[@Lawrence4000-s3k]

I really do think that's why you voted. It wasn't because of any pro-European sentiment - it was pure self-interest. The fact that freedom of movement was massively damaging to the British working class never crossed your mind. You didn't care their wages were compressed, their bargaining power destroyed, their housing costs became unbearable. No, you cared only that you could holiday in your Spanish villa. The major downside for Brexit for me is that people like you are more likely to stay in the country, when we would be infinitely better off without your type.

[@davidlazaro3937]

Brilliant, James. Again. You’re not exhausting, you’re correct. What’s exhausting is those people who insist it was possible with no consequence.

[@miniwhaledropit2738]

did you live under a rock?

[@lucasmoreno5330]

Andrew Bailey voted for Brexit, He was a Johnson appointee at a time Brexit was king.

[@Brenco-l6x]

England failed, not the UK. Scotland didn’t vote not for for Brexit.

[@michaelrowsell1160]

Only because you were not targeted by the propaganda..

[@davemurphy9468]

One thing i can never understand about Brexit. How the UK government could be that dumb & arrogant, that they would have a yes/no referendum about something that important.

[@lk-music]

Because Cameron was afraid that otherwise he would lose the election.

[@danishasghar]

It's an issue of ego. The British ppl and govt made a mistake they should go back to the eu

[@MrLekatt]

Why is it more important to respect the people's will then and not today?

[@qwadratix]

We KNOW it failed. It failed from the first moment. Whatever made anyone think it wouldn't? That's not the issue. The issue is what to do about it.

[@andal7404]

Accepting a lie as a proposition will always lead to a false conclusion.

[@Dont_Believe_them]

1984 - we are in Orwells 1984 - it is dangerous to speak the truth - Even for the GOVERNOR OF THE BANK OF ENGLAND

[@tonners.pettitt9938]

We need another referendum plain and simple, I think people have seen enough horror to have changed their minds and both the EU and UK needs each other more than at any time since the first one

[@alanpartridge1385]

But your comment highlights precisely why we should never have referendums. People probably have changed their minds, but then in 10 years they might change their minds again, and so on ad infinitum. We should trust the government we elect to make decisions like this on the public's behalf.

[@ulrichkristensen4087]

Well the UK does not fulfill the four pillars of the " Copenhagen" Criteria, and if you rejoin there are countries in the que before you , so at least 10-15 years from now, and if you rejoin, there will be no special deals, no rebates etc and you will loose the pund for Euro.

[@alanpartridge1385]

@@ulrichkristensen4087 Well yes and no. Having the world's sixth largest economy which was previously one of the few net contributers to the EU, with nearly 70 million consumers, rejoin is slightly more attractive to the EU than having, for example, Moldova join. Theory and reality aren't necessarily the same thing... As for concessions and rebates, yes you are probably correct, but the UK holds far more cards in its hand than any other prospective member state.

[@ulrichkristensen4087]

@alanpartridge1385 our export to the UK has remained the same your export to us has nore than halfed. Facts. Do you think you no longer import from the EU? It is your largest trade market, you have to adopt every EU rułe and have no influence, i call that an own goal😉 As long as you do not fulfill the Copenhagen criterias you will not join again.

[@alanpartridge1385]

@@ulrichkristensen4087 As I say, there's a difference between theory and reality. Whether you want to accept it or not, the UK was the second most important market in the EU after Germany. If the UK ever comes to its senses and applies to rejoin, the EU will bite their hand off.

[@BenelliMr]

BREXIT is loose - loose. All EU countries have lost a lot. But less than the UK. Now, everybody in the EU is mad about the UK and the British; for a very long time, certainly. No tourist is hated more in the EU as British tourists. So now don't expect that the actual generation will ever forgive this arrogance to the Brits and accept that Britain would rejoin the EU. Brexit has created hate and anger on all sides

[@yorkshiremgtow1773]

@@BenelliMr what does the EU do, that actual free trade in Europe cannot do?

[@TaxFraudEnthusiast]

​@@yorkshiremgtow1773 The EU is the free market. Except free market doesn't mean no regulations at all (safety norms etc), so leaving the EU means leaving the free market. Do you really think establishing a free market is so simple that Britain will be able to do it on its own ?

[@yorkshiremgtow1773]

@TaxFraudEnthusiast if the EU is a 'free market' then why on earth do they need to have MEPs? What do they do?

[@BenelliMr]

@ to control the tax fraud of the UK and other dishonest governments

[@TaxFraudEnthusiast]

@yorkshiremgtow1773 if by MEP you mean Members of the European Parliament, then you need to learn what the EU is, it's not *just* a free market. Otherwise, as english isn't my first language, i do not know what you mean.

[@CatherineWatson-e9d]

When will the politicians admit they made a mistake and DO something about it?

[@DoggleBird]

@CatherineWatson-e9d What politicians' mistake did you have in mind?

[@CatherineWatson-e9d]

@DoggleBird They all have a hand in it.

[@DoggleBird]

@@CatherineWatson-e9d I was asking you what the mistake was and who made it.

[@beekaydee7334]

Which politicians are you talking about? Don't the people who voted to leave, take any responsibility for allowing themselves to be fooled and not using their brains properly? It was obvious that it was a bad decision but who was listening?

[@Culky]

The lead on embracing the failure of Brexit needs to come from the PM, and the start of a new term would be the ideal time to start shaping the narrative. Not that Starmer seems at all interested.

[@yorkshiremgtow1773]

Let's say that France left the EU. Would that make it harder, or easier, for UK-French buyers and sellers to trade?

[@AgnesReynaud-z6z]

We need our closest neighbours in Europe to survive. Britain needs Europe and Europe needs Britain. If it seems difficult to reverse Brexit we could at least negotiate and repair our ties, all the ties we need for a better economy.

[@scrappedlives]

We are doing fine without Britain. Don't know if you noticed, but the economy in the EU is rising ever since covid. Yours is stuck at the bottom. Just check the numbers. And why should the EU all the sudden want to negotiate with the UK if they still don't respect the Brexit agreement. The UK is not reliable! You just want all the benefits wihout giving anything back.

[@dora71803]

I personally voted for the Green Party, the only party which meaningfully mentioned brexit in their manifesto.

[@Porto-m5w]

The Sports Club analogy is perfect. Anyone can get that. If you're member you get benefits. Which leaves only one Brexit explanation: English nationalism, resentment and self loathing.

[@yorkshiremgtow1773]

No. My reason for Leaving have nothing to do with that, and everything to do with the pointlessness of the EU, which actually hinders free trade.

[@ukeman1387]

Mark Twain: “It is easier to fool people than convince them that they have been fooled”. Is it really such a hot political potato after eight years of failure?

[@ibexdnb2879]

Wahey. Back to Brexit talk. I knew we could count on you Jim.

[@BurnCKC]

Until the country is in a better position than it was in the EU, which will likely be never, it'll continue to be a topic.

[@ibexdnb2879]

​@@BurnCKC Yeah man i understand. I would like James to do a full break down of what was promised for Brexit and what has actually been implemented amd such. Instead of just constantly bashing it.

[@gopodge]

What mechanisms do you have to undo Brexit when everyone is scared of the front page of the newspaper.

[@6PBP6]

The question isn’t when will it realise it has failed. It is when will it ADMIT it has failed.

[@Andrew-zu7yn]

As an American, all I have to say to all these Brits worrying that they wreck their own economy is... WITNESS ME!

[@justinbryant-dehard8704]

Brexit is the best thing the UK EVER did. The UK has been in decline since the 1950''s now we get the chance to personally manage our decline and not let foreigners interfere by trying to prop us up.

[@leet3207]

Britain should stand up for free trade and rebuild ties with the European Union - That statement is a bit of an oxymoron. You can only have free trade if your part of the EU club!!!

[@AIJimmybad]

We've got a free trade agreement with the EU. So you're wrong.

[@michaelmurphy1127]

Then that is not free trade. Another oxymoron.

[@jamesmilne2455]

@@AIJimmybad Trade deal comes with non tariff barriers which we didn't have in the single market so can't freely trade with the EU. So you're wrong.

[@jeffh8803]

The EU decided to have a spiteful divorce. There is no inherent reason that much had to change in the trade sphere except the EU making it hurt as much as possible to warn other countries against following.

[@swangelok]

@@jeffh8803 yeah... and you know what? there is NOTHING the UK can do about that... now get your begging bowl and go to Washington

[@markcrocker8645]

You're forgetting that Brexit is a religion, and we all generally try not to offend other people's religious beliefs, however ludicrous and damaging they may be. How very British.

[@yolamack7444]

Thanks Charlie. I'm going to start listening to O'Brien again. He's great. You've proved his worth today 😂❤

[@ProfoundFamiliarity]

The Governor of the Bank of England must remain politically neutral. This is because he is a civil servant, not a politician.

[@vullings1968]

Yes, and because of that hr must report neutrally on the consequences of political choices if they have an economic impact. Ignoring those factual consequences would NOT be neutral, and falling short on his duties as a civil servwnt.

[@anthonymcnamee6297]

Boris please go away with your millions n minions

[@EarlyRomanKing]

Whichever way you voted, we all lost…it’s just some find it harder to admit they believed the mountain of lies they were told and in believing voted against their own and their neighbour’s and friend’s best interest. Denial is a very powerful weapon. So powerful that those still advocating for Brexit, don’t even know they’re in denial. Absolutely no self awareness or self examination.

[@HarryNottings]

Most of the British media is still refusing to engage with the failure. Although brexiters are also convinced the media is against them, they're not very bright

[@maxthemagition]

The thing is London is directly connected to Europe via the Channel Tunnel, whilst the rest of the UK is almost a different island isolated from Europe, thanks to Brexit.

[@HusseinKarbasi]

I don't think that even if the UK becomes the North Korea of Europe, people will still notice the destructive effects of Brexit. They might not see it even if the situation gets really extreme.

[@willvanzwanenberg6313]

How do you “respect” insanity?

[@AndyCampbellMusic]

Make it president?

[@TheOutsider840]

What's insane about it? Do you always call your political opponents insane for having different values and political ambitions to you?

[@andydenness2090]

The majority of voters didn't vote for economic reasons it's was mainly about immigration rightly or wrongly, and that worked out well 🤔

[@Applepie409]

Because those with money viewed illegal immigration’s as a cheap source of labour. They didn’t understand the burden this would place on our economy. We need a lower population not a higher one. Encourage a lower population to have families. Nearly all of the doctors in the U.K. are from abroad. Encourage young people to train and upskill. Maybe not insist those who do a second degree have to fund themselves fully when training as doctors. Stop the manufacture and import of rubber dinghies into the U.K. and stop the money paid to France for policing. The coastline is too long anyway to make it practical. Maybe for every immigrant we support in this country we allow our native population in Britain to go over and live in France. They are a much bigger country.

[@rb1062]

We had recruitment agencies in this country who were barring British job applicants! Why don't you do some research before posting your unsubstantiated, arrogant, narrow minded opinion.

[@andydenness2090]

@@rb1062 if you look closely I was being ironic 🤔 obviously it hasn't worked out well

[@rb1062]

@@andydenness2090 Looks like you're very poor at explaining things. Do you know the meaning of "Ironic"? 🤣

[@philthrelfall5294]

@@rb1062 Can you name these job agencies, I'd like to research this further?

[@hassanhikmet]

Britain and US thinks that the World should change to oblige them.

[@MichaelBrown-yj9kj]

It is difficult for an offical figure to take an honest position on Brexit while the new Government does not too. In fact that same new Government is promising to "MAKE BREXIT WORK!".

[@michaelsinclair2510]

The referendum was initiated by Cameron in the hope that a 'no' vote would diminsh the power that the right wing 1922 Committee had over Tory politics. Extreme Eurosceptics as they were, they made the party ungovernable, not just for Cameron but for all others before. The economics of being a part of the EU, and the poiltcal leverage the UK had by being a member was never in doubt. It was simply, Party politics before country.

[@pietersrv]

Your analogy with the sports club is spot on. And funny. 🙂

[@emberplate]

Not everyones a neolib

[@robertfinlayson1097]

I genuinely have yet to meet a Brexiteer that can provide a cogent argument for the national act of self-harm that is Brexit . Not one

[@michaelmurphy1127]

8 years of the lowest interest rates in over 50 years.

[@JohnSmith-it6hj]

We have too many people here, just a company too big for its output makes redundancies, Britain needs to get rid of its surplus population.

[@robertfinlayson1097]

@@michaelmurphy1127 That’s it ?

[@rb1062]

A huge submarine contract from Australia, which we wouldn't have got if we were still in the EU. We managed to sort out our Covid vaccines better than the EU, who tried to nab them from us. Our lockdowns were less severe than many countries in the EU. I'm pretty certain we wouldn't have had a free hand if we were still in the bloc. Nut zero is self harm. But you're probably totally on board with that. You need to surround yourself with brighter people.

[@SimonPJohnson]

Wrong again

[@fintamaria2429]

👏👏👏👏well thank you

[@arthursansnom4289]

He have to respect the decision of the majority of the UK people to "pay" the high price of Brexit.

[@maximushaughton2404]

Strange how Mark Carney was vocal, before the vote, warning against Brexit, a few times.

[@smoozerish]

Andrew Bailey was an appointment by Boris Johnson. Enough said.

[@fslinteriors7889]

James, although I'm the same politics as you I've always thought you were a complete bell. The Gov of the bank of England is a civil servant, he should remain neutral. He's clearly conveying an opinion through nuance.

[@HarryNottings]

Neutrality means respecting reality. Opposition to Brexit IS neutrality