TIPIS, TENTS & TARPS | WHY THAT ONE? | 🎙️ GRITTY EP. 710

Gritty Gear. We go over the different types of backcountry shelters and why and when we would use them. We cover tipis, dome dents, tarps, stove or no stove options as well as where and when we would use them.
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[@HikeHuntHaul]

This is the video/podcast that I’ve been waiting for. Researching my butt off for a backcountry shelter and stove for late season. Warmth in the winter/late fall is crucial. Gotta keep you in the backcountry longer. Thanks for the great video.

[@marckenney979]

The little bugs are called typically no-see-ems. Good over view. I’m in Grand Junction and you can’t beat Seek Outside gear.

[@ericwalsh7418]

From now on they are "bite me nots"😀.

[@DaMoose13]

Check out Hill People Gear and Wiggy's Sleeping Bags as well! Both manufactur and sell some of the best outdoor gear in the world, and both are based & test out of Grand Junction & Western Colorado.

[@wayneswendsen8310]

Great content...watching you hunt from tarps and tipis made me wonder what you do in Alaska. First year with a Tipi and stove, so I'm gleaning everything I can from your videos. Appreciate your efforts to make great content.

[@andrewmaccaskey4388]

I always like it when you’re back in town bro and dropping these videos consistently 6 AM hell yeah brother keep hammering stay gritty!!! 💯🍖

[@mt.gamecalls2566]

Thank you for putting up these informative videos. It's helpful to actually hear from someone who has personally used the gear. I really appreciate the brutal honest reviews. I think the flies you were referring to are those tiny, annoying, blood sucking no-see-ums. Again, thank you guys!

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Those bugs suck!

[@mt.gamecalls2566]

@@GrittyGearAndPodcast Yes they sure do!

[@mattestep5773]

Thank you for another great and helpful video!!!! Love the gear videos!!! Helps make my mind up on purchases!!

[@esther12q]

Excellent info, greatly appreciate seeing the gear along with the talking points. Keep it up!

[@BryanTheHunter513]

thank you for doing this one. I just bought a silex as I've been researching for awhile and finally pulled the trigger, nothing like a nice gritty video to make a guy feel good about his purchase. I'll be going with the medium stove per your recommendations once I get enough funds to pull it off again hopefully before my November elk hunt

[@bertoldon]

This was a fun one to watch. I’ve joined the “array” group now. Red cliff with stove, tarp w/ trek poles, 3 man UL, and 2 man UL. I never would have thought I’d have that many. Thanks for outlying how YOU use them!!

[@montysmith4080]

Thanks fellas! This is the video I needed to narrow down what I'm getting. Keep it up

[@fromnineteeneightyfive]

That's awesome, you guys have been using DCF since 2008! Here I thought I was cool when I got a Locus Gear cuben fiber pyramid tent in 2014. Love your videos and style (ultralight hunting)

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

2014 is definitely early though!

[@ericwalsh7418]

Brian, you have always done a great job on gear videos! This one is no different. Thanks for the video guys.

[@nickblaylock5115]

I run a cimmeron and absolutely love it..definitely worth the money thanks your content

[@davidj6755]

Awesome video! I own both the Silex and the Cimarron, and I got a lot of useful information from this.

[@rickjohnson7223]

Ryan looks like a riverboat Capt. With all that rowing!😂 Great vid as always and that was a “dumpster” of a bear!👊🏻🤘🏻

[@tamashucsko5827]

What a useful video! I love the show and tell, make a great video. I am starting my holiday list early!

[@koorbloh]

I love my Peax trekking poles. Huge upgrade. Been trying to work up the courage to tarp, but I certainly need to drop some weight in my tent.

[@dckid97]

Another awesome video!!! Stay safe and stay gritty 👍🏻🇺🇸

[@treystills]

Nice vid thanks for sharing! Why are skirts not included with the tipi style tents? Thanks again

[@ASAUCYKOALABEAR]

I think it’d be great to get some tutorial on how you guys set some of this stuff up and why/how you do things certain ways.

[@jonathonlang1844]

My favorite early fall in NE washington set up is hammock camping and the eno profly is a sick impromptu shelter piece for the randon weather that blows in.

[@luke_lit]

Thanks for the insight, been trying to decide on a shelter for this fall

[@jeremywright290]

Love this video exactly what I needed keep crushing it

[@LonC1966]

Nice info. Thanks. I’m looking for a hot tent right now. Also lightweight tarps.

[@superfish2116]

I've always used Eureka scout tent with vistabul,,,KEEP ON KEEPING ON!!!!!

[@burga00001]

Back stateside and super-stoked to get out there this fall with the family. Saw that muley video you guys put out - glad to see that case of the Rona you had awhile back isn't keeping you down sir. Keep up the good work. 👍

[@kevinfox2370]

What a great and informative video. Thank you

[@jessewillis1679]

Awsome.. Lots of info....love it...

[@royhoglund1322]

That was a pretty thorough comparison!

[@LoveMountainAdventures]

I also use a floorless teepee and have for several few years; they are great...I also use a Borah Bivy for bug protection and ground cloth and they are fantastic too because they are under 8oz!

[@MartyPhil]

Great insight gritty, being from Australia 🇦🇺 I like the full protection of a tent ⛺️ and floor. To many creepy crawleys and snakes 🐍. I guess a stove box would be a game changer, heaps of wood and timber in the high country here to burn 🔥 haha Might have to have a look at them in detail Great episode!

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Right on. They also make dome tents with floors with stove jacks. That might be nice for your situation.

[@MartyPhil]

@@GrittyGearAndPodcast what model would you recommend? The guardian ? With the nest ? Or something else ? Cheers

[@joeybennett1491]

The nest is totally worth it! Love my Silex with nest but clearly I need to get the DCF Silex.

[@moose_moof]

You show the DCF cimarron being 2.5 lbs at time 23:32, but the specs on their website show "Complete weight - canopy, stakes, carbon pole - 55 oz / 3 lb 7 oz" am I looking at the wrong tent? Thank you.

[@zachjohnsonauctioneer]

@Brian Call: Gritty, if I were to only buy one stove, would the Seek Outside Large stove be too much for the Silex? My worry is that if I also get a Cimarron one day, that a medium stove would not be big enough. Thanks for your input!

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

The large is on the verge of being too big for the silex, but we have ran the large in the silex. You just have to be very cautious of how close the shelter is to the stove and you have to make sure the stove jack is around the pipe and the material of the tent is not touching or close to it. The large sure is nice in the cimarron.

[@zachjohnsonauctioneer]

@@GrittyGearAndPodcast thanks for your input!

[@johnselli9417]

Another one 🤘🤘🤘🤘 Thx fellas

[@kevinfitzgerald1286]

Very helpfull I want to see the stove setup if there's a link for that

[@chrisboesiger]

Awesome video explaining, how do you secure your trekking poles too use as tent poles

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

The tents have attachments built-in for the trekking poles.

[@ryanbelcher1493]

Do you get the additional seam sealing to the tipis?

[@reapergrim76]

Great stuff! 👍

[@thomaswehnes348]

Live and hunt in southeast Alaska. Rainforest and almost every flat area is muskeg. (Water at ground level) Noseums are atrocious. (Mosquitos only wish they were that bad). Looking for an ultralight tarp or Tipi to protect against both. Tired of carrying the weight of a dome when I hunt alone.

[@recurrenTopology]

That Hilleberg Niak is classified as a 3-season on account of its fabric, 20 D ripstop nylon, and is part of Hillebergs "Yellow Label" 3-season line. Their "Red Label" and "Black Label" all-season tents are constructed of 30 D and 40 D ripstop nylon, respectively. As you said, their "Yellow Label" tents are likely to withstand the conditions a hunter is likely to find in any season, as their tents are designed with mountaineering in mind for use in extreme high alpine environments, and their all season tents need to survive a severe winter storm/blizzard. One is not liable to find any game in such environs in the winter, with even mountain goat leaving the high alpine to avoid such conditions. As far as I know, Hilleberg does not produce any tents with a stove jack factory installed.

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Thank you for adding this information to the discussion. 🙏🏼🙌🏼

[@recurrenTopology]

@@GrittyGearAndPodcast No problem, thanks for the through review of your tents! Really like the look of the Silex, it reminds me of the Durston X-mid I use, but the zipper free design looks like it makes it far easier to set up as a glassing shelter. On a separate note, you mentioned not using the pyramid when it's been snowed in and frozen, because it would make rocks for sealing the perimeter inaccessible. I'd just like to note that if there is sufficient snow, you can use the snow to the same effect as the rocks. Some pyramids even have attached snow skirts for this purpose (Black Diamond Mega Snow for example). If the snow is deep enough, you can even dig out the area under the tent to increase the living area. I love using floorless tents on multi-day ski tours for this reason. Obviously would need to add a snow shovel to the kit for this, but that's a pretty useful tool to have in such conditions.

[@TheWildDoc]

It would be freaking awesome if y’all were able to design a modification to combine your 2 trekking poles to use them for the center TP pole!

[@KillenNReelinoutdoors]

I believe seek outside has it for the cimmeron

[@piche090391]

how do y'all sleep in a floorless tent with muddy ground? I have the silex shelter but I haven't had to use it in those conditions

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Firstly, we try to setup our shelter where the ground has some grass or is relatively high and doesn’t collect water. Next, our Tyvek ground cloth covers the ground and provides a barrier against the ground. And finally, we get our tent super hot with the wood stove and we dry out the ground quite a bit.

[@zwiefel12]

Is there ever a time you would bring the cimmeron if you were solo? Or is that just too excessive? My thoughts are for the weight it still makes sense for solo trips maybe

[@chrisparker8332]

Thanks for the great video. Would you recommend the Cimaron for 3rd season Colorado elk hunt? Didn’t know if the snow would make you switch to another type tent. Thanks.

[@brad3489]

How do you counter heavy rains with the floor less shelters?

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Through many crazy rain and wind storms, I've had to trench out around the tipi 1 time. The biggest things is to make sure you aren't setting your shelter up in a bowl. Even flat ground seems to shed the water off around the tipi.

[@donaldleeiii3624]

Happy to hear that. Used a Cim. Light this season and rain creating a river running through the tent or snow blowing in under the sides was/is a huge concern for me.

[@rickowens6238]

What is best selection for EXTREMELY high wind on Alaska Peninsula? Encountered 10 days of wind that collapsed the tent continuously. It was on the verge of coming apart and was compromised in every way.

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Hey Rick! I've seen Billy Molls use a Helleberg-style dome tent AND a tipi. Billy took the tipi down when the weather was harsh and ran the tipi and stove when the weather permitted. But I've also seen Cole Kramer use a dome-style tent (4 season) WITH a stove jack on Kodiak Island. Some dudes in Alaska buy a heavy duty dome tent from Cabelas or similar and then pay to have a stove jack added to the shelter. Ideally, a heavy duty dome tent with a stove jack is ideal. We used just such a tent when I was on Kodiak with Cole Kramer--you can see the tent setup in this film here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZiWmGOjpZlraac We were camped on Kodiak when the tsunami hit a few years back--the weather was CRAZY! But Cole's Cabela's dome with the stove withstood the storms.

[@rickowens6238]

@@GrittyGearAndPodcast Thanks for taking time.

[@michaelnelson1911]

Great review. I didn’t see any canvas tents. Lol I think the bugs that you were referring to are gnats. Pesty buggers. Can you tell us what target weight you are trying to hit as your total pack weight? Or not to exceed weight? What your favorite MTN OPS drink?

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Ideally, your pack with 10 days of food is less than 55lbs. 20 lbs of food and 30 lbs of gear.

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

I love Pink Lemonade Ignite!

[@Ridgeripper85]

Great vid guys, so a question I have is what stakes do you guys like and use for tarps and tents? Length etc. There are so many to choose from wondering what’s good?

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

We use the MSR Groundhog.

[@kee7678]

GReat info guys! Thanks ! PS...why didn't the "Gritty" discount work on the Zpacks site ??

[@rbljackson]

regarding the thermocell on the butane fuel....how long would you say the thermocell will run on a small bottle? Can I expect to get thru 4 days using my stove for coffee and mountainhouse, AND be able to use the thermocell each night before bed. I dont think id want to run that overnight.....any concern of asphixiation?

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

We usually have enough air flow going through the tipi. I would say yes it would last 4 days. I wouldn't go much beyond that unless I had the bigger fuel canister.

[@thomashashoutdooradventure]

Kevin at Seek Outside has the corner on this game. He seems to be a cool dude. I’m going to have one of the tipis soon. I’ve got a titanium goat 5 foot and stove from several years ago that is a solo system. I need one bigger. I would love to be able to budget the dcf model when I do pull the trigger.

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

DCF is great. But I wouldn’t hesitate to get the silnylon version of the Cimarron. But only DCF for the Redcliff.

[@hoser7706]

What stove are you guys using? Have you looked at or used a cheap but effective long lasting Walmart Essentials USB C rechargeable fan to circulate heat inside or in hot/rainy climates to cool? Works so well and on low it lasts 12-13 hrs. Great addition for me.

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

We run the Peax Equipment Torrid stove.

[@rodneystock8595]

Do you guys use the Red Cliff light? What size stove do you like using in it?

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

A lot of times we have the SXL stove.

[@evanrindal6392]

When you guys said “don’t use your tarp as a ground cloth, use tyvek. ( due to holes). Was that dyneema and or silnylon? So, don’t use both?

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Sorry about the confusion. We meant don’t use either material-don’t use silnylon and don’t use DCF. Tyvek is just better and the added weight is so minimal it’s not worth leaving.

[@evanrindal6392]

Awesome! Thanks! I run the silnylon cimmaron, with tyvek. I got my tyvek from a construction site garbage pile! Saves a few $! Thanks for clarification, because I was planning on using a dyneema tarp as a multipurpose ground tarp/light tent.

[@Terpedup925]

Too bad you don’t have their new tent to review. Thanks for the video. Where has your brother been at? Haven’t seen him lately. Hopes he’s doing good. ✌🏼

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Thanks! Brent is doing well.

[@JSmithHunter]

Great video! Would you take the DCF Cimarron or Silex solo into the super steep Idaho country? Thought you guys took the Cimarron but could only pitch on the ridge tops. Thanks!

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

I’d take the Silex solo if it’s steep and I want to stay mobile and sleep anywhere I want. But if the area has a lot of camping spots for the DCF Cimarron to fit, I would bring it instead of the Silex. But both are excellent.

[@JSmithHunter]

@@GrittyGearAndPodcast Cool, I appreciate the reply!

[@tonydelorenzo5427]

Awesome details….I noticed in the weight breakdowns that you had 8ft stove pipe listed….do you always use 8 ft for all the shelters?

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Great catch. We use 8 foot pipes for the DCF fabric-sparks can make dyneema melt; silnylon is okay.

[@rasant8917]

Guys - any interest in the new Guardian? Would love to see y’all do a review. I think you’re referring to gnats.

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

We haven’t used the Guardian. But I’d love to! We always like to try new gear. No-seeeums-that’s what I was trying to remember. Gnats too

[@yungskullivan]

Sweet vid! Thanks for the tours. I would have like to see the stoves in there too. Do you run the same stove & pipe in the silex and cimarron? I'm probably going to snag a cimarron light since its half the price of dcf

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Usually in the Silex we run a medium u-turn and in the Cimarron we run the large u-turn. You can run the large in the silex though. It is much better having a bigger stove vs on that's too small.

[@yungskullivan]

@@GrittyGearAndPodcast good to know, thanks! You prefer the U-turn over the regular stove? It looks like ~9oz in weight savings

[@bradheath2592]

Are you guys using the uturn or the regular stoves ? Any thoughts on the Guardian?

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

We use the u-turn mostly, but occasionally we still use the regular. I think it's pretty great, but if I'm planning on going with 2 guys, I would take the cimarron all day long over it.

[@lukedavis8912]

how does Tyvek compare to the seek outside floor mat? do you have any experience with it?

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Are you taking about the white matt that’s similar to Tyvek? It’s great. Maybe a touch more protective than what tyvek provides but also a smidge heavier. But if you’re talking about their brown silnylon ground cloth it’s no good-you’ll get a home in your air mattress.

[@lukedavis8912]

@@GrittyGearAndPodcast thanks for responding and yeah I was talking about the white one- can't see, to find it on there website anymore tho

[@jero1918]

Thanx

[@DAMMDAUGHTERS]

As someone with a 5.5 lb hilleberg that takes up half my pack, I feel attacked lmao definitely need to step up the tipi and tarp game

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

😂😂😂

[@johnjohnmacek8416]

Hey Brian.. y'all might have a video on this question and I missed it.. but what size stove do y'all use?

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Depends on the size of the tent. We use the medium on the small tents and a large or an XL large in our tipis. We always go one size up from what is usually recommended.

[@johnjohnmacek8416]

@@GrittyGearAndPodcast ok.. thank you!

[@austintaylor4319]

Just out of curiosity what happen to the sissy sticks?

[@jackpartridge7891]

Hey man been watching videos for years now and I just wanna say how much I appreciate you. I live in the UK myself and can only dream of how surreal it is being alone up in the wilderness hunting being a badass lol… Would you ever consider doing some type of competition where people can enter for a chance to fly out and go hunting with you all? Would be awesome honestly and it would be different to see (pick me)😂

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Thank you for tuning in and supporting the show. That would be pretty cool. We may be able to do that down the road.

[@nathanielh468]

Gritty, question. What size tent would I need for 3 people? I'm 6', friend is 6' 1' and my brother is 6'7". We would like a stove and keep our gear inside. Does a Redcliff or the 4 man allow for an overly large human being to lay out with the above? Or should we just go with a 6 man? Thanks.

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

You can get by with the Redcliff, but I would much rather have more room with the 6 man or 8 man. Especially, if you know you are going to have the needed flat area to set it up. More room is always much better than not having enough. The Redcliff would be pretty tight since it sounds like all of you men are taller and bigger than we are 😆.

[@nathanielh468]

@@GrittyGearAndPodcast Thanks for the response, love what you do!

[@petwwag]

Love your videos! Keep them coming!

[@jerrodking9763]

Thanks for the great video guys. How do you deal with condensation in the tipis? Even while running the stove I still wake up in the morning with condensation on the walls and my bag is a little damp, never enough that it doesn’t dry by the next night though. Is that a big issue for you or do you just learn to deal with it?

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

It's not a huge issue for us. Most of the time, as long as it isn't very windy, we can raise the tipi up a little and get the bottom off the ground a couple inches allowing air to flow under it. Also, we will leave the door cracked a tiny bit if we need. Another option, is to get a bigger stove. I'm not sure what size you have.

[@abasin08]

Seek outside liners, work great

[@lifson22]

Great video, love the details, and real world discussion, but I have to say, calling the Hilleberg a 3 season because it doesn't have a stove jack is ridiculous. People have been camping in extreme weather, well below zero, and above treeline in extreme wind long before consumer hot tents were a thing. A stove to dry stuff out is amazing, and the extra comfort it provides is definitely great for hanging out in nasty weather, but my -25f western mountaineering bag is what will actually keep me warm when things get extreme. A stove in those conditions has to be fed constantly, so relying on that and not bringing a proper sleep system is a risk. Nothing wrong with stove tents, but a stove is not the determining factor for a 4th season tent.

[@HuntinTheSip]

I ❤️MY SILEX 🏆

[@tallen4880]

Hope this doesn’t sound too nitty “gritty” but can’t find any good views on a very small niche, the mosquito head gear…a simple answer would be fine by me. Just wondering what you use and/or what you would recommend? Thanks bro, appreciate ya

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

We usually just snag the cheap $4 ones at your local sporting goods store. Nothing too fancy.

[@tallen4880]

Thanks pimp, keep pimpin

[@sheerwillsurvival2064]

Love gear wish I could win power ball

[@janiedillingham3190]

Those tiny little bugs you were trying to name? We call 'em "No See'ums" here in Alabama. And they will drive you freakin' crazy if you don't have some kind of bug protection.

[@Mark-dj5qf]

Do you guys use bug repellent?

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

No. But we use this: www.amazon.com/Thermacell-MR-BPR-Backpacker-Mosquito-Repellent/dp/B077ZMVMGD/ref=asc_df_B077ZMVMGD/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=242009199808&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15478372425350053665&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030233&hvtargid=pla-436204975154&psc=1

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

The Thermacell Backpacker Releller is legit.

[@Mark-dj5qf]

Thank you

[@rossw_LWR]

Thanks for the link. I was trying to figure out which thermacell you were talking about in the video.

[@robertgarrett8212]

In the market for a new tent and was looking at the new guardian from Seek Outside. Only thing I’m worried about is we are hunting in Rattlesnake country in early Sept. have you ever had problems with Rattlesnakes in a floorless shelter? Or would you simply not use floorless in that type of area.

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Not yet, but if I know I’m going to be in a very heavy snake area, I would recommend adding the nest system.

[@working_to_hunt]

Unless you’re solo. The DCF Redcliff is the choice!

[@allendunfee5725]

Great video. I hose down my footprint for my tent and all my gear and clothes with Permethrin. Also use a thermacell! Be glad you don't live in Georgia. North GA mountains are nice but south GA is like hunting on Mars but with lots of bugs and snakes and spiders. Come on down buddy! 😂

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Bugs, snakes and spiders… yuck! 😆

[@brettbehm3486]

I really need to invest in a teepee

[@southwestsenderooutdoors7320]

hit us with a garden tour!!

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Ha ha! Ok… but it’s pretty ghetto! 😁

[@LoveMountainAdventures]

"FIIIIIRRRE!!!!" 🙂

[@bobwilliams3634]

I was looking for the tarp web page, or look on Amazon? Thanks!!

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

zpacks.com/products/flat-tarp-8-5-x-10-w-12-loops The price just keeps creeping up. Less than six months ago it was $229.00

[@rrzoutdoors3664]

Is there ever a concern for ticks in shelter? Watch a lot of spring bear hunts with guys picking off ticks all day- that reason alone would make me lean toward nest or screen. Wondering if you are ever concerned with that

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Ticks can be thick sometimes and they’re annoying. But we still won’t use a shelter with a floor-we perform regular “tick checks” and we pick the ticks off of ourselves. To this day, I have not been gotten by a tick.

[@rrzoutdoors3664]

@@GrittyGearAndPodcast 👍 did my first spring bear hunt last spring. Planning another trip this next spring- and taking the wife. Just the 2 of us- and so I need a shelter that will comfortably sleep 2. And I think for her sake it’s gonna need screen of some kind. I’m leaning toward the tipi with a nest…. So your video helps. As for no tick bites- thats impressive. I do some part time taxidermy and get a lot of bucks from southern states- covered in hundreds of ticks. Been hit 1/2 dozen times over the years.

[@wendelllamotte7834]

Great review! With all those tent options plus the other gear, how do you organize and store it all properly?

[@TGriffiths86]

Are you referring to "No-See-Um's" ???

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

That's what they're called! lol

[@allendunfee5725]

The true name is a midge but no-see-ums is a nickname. I hate em. They love me.

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

@@allendunfee5725 - I hate them too! 😡

[@roncox8758]

So if you don't have a washer with an agitator, several as in 5 or more heavy rubber dog toys and hot water do work well to beat the shit out of the tyvek and break it down.

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

Absolutely! You are spot on Ron. When I didn't have a washer with a tumbler, I just went to the laundromat.

[@joek5800]

That tarps like $400 now!!

[@squatch2461]

🍻

[@kevtom1686]

TP ? 1 ply or 2 ? Sock or shirt sleeve ?

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

LOL! Never sock or shirt sleeve! Rub a little dirt on it and you're good to go.

[@kevtom1686]

Love the work you all do. Thank you.

[@jameshurd4815]

Seek outside is too pricey for me. I went with Luxe for my hot tent. It's about 1/2 the cost.

[@GrittyGearAndPodcast]

That's a good option.

[@deerloversheridan3038]

which model?

[@jameshurd4815]

I went with the minipeak xl with the large titanium stove. Took 2 months to receive it but worth the wait for the savings

[@sentineloffreedom]

let's play a game where you can only talk when the camera is looking at you...

[@markcrawford2896]

Noseeums

[@northdakotawaterfowlersbla2358]

Bro… quit interrupting! You’re not that cool.