Bridgerton Fans Are OUTRAGED

Discussing the latest talk in the Bridgerton fandom and all of the problems/issues that have been swirling since the part 2 of season 3 has been released.

[@twinkletwinkleproductions4059]

**Correction! Since uploading Jess confirmed Benedict is pansexual**

[@denisadellinger4543]

Then I'm done.

[@Multifandom04]

🙄🙄

[@katrinarichards7891]

Last season side plots took away from leads including no backstory for Kate same mis opportunities this Season Plotline Kanthony needed more screentime do u agree

[@alelid9088]

​@@katrinarichards7891 I agree. In fact I stopped watching after failed S2 how much screen time did Anthony and Kate had? So many scenes in the book! We didn't get to watch the most important of those. Also Kate's over entitled sister? Ugh

[@cyrilmarasigan7108]

What? (In my Oprah Winfrey expression) Like the reason why we get the Bridgerton musical is because of one line between Benedict and his lover then we get Benedict is pansexual? When clearly his sexuality is already established in season 1

[@slitherclaw420]

How could they give us this crap after Queen Charlotte 😭

[@ange7679]

Fr, youd think after Kanthony & Queen Charlotte things would only get better

[@LNOTUE]

Thank you. After Queen charlotte and previous seasons greatness, they let us down

[@Jomama-man]

⁠ that’s why I was so excited. It was getting better an better

[@sweetnesstwilight]

I am P*SSED! Jess absolutely BUTCHERED this season! It's like she forgot the core value of the show is THE MAIN LOVE STORY! 1st half was dominated by side plots, 2nd half still had all those side plots take over PLUS the whole Lady Whistledown scandal, we barely had ANY romance between Colin and Penelope! SO dissapointing!

[@ojasachitre7017]

Yeah! What was sad was that Nic said in interviews that it was a romantic season and I think she probably said that based on the scenes they filmed! Which is sooo sad cause I’m sure it actually was very romantic!

[@jolie7751]

I agree so muchhhhh, they have to return the old show runner, I remember it was a man , he had so much taste and knew what to do

[@theliterarytarot]

I thought that since the first half was very slim with the main story (my FAVORITE STORY, POLIN) so I thought for sure the second half would be better and yet it was worse! All the Benedict and everything else!!? I still love Polin the most but that was abominable

[@rebeccallanes797]

While I agree that we needed more Polin, I would argue that the whistledown scandal plot is integral to the Polish storyline

[@ginger5872]

Well.......when your whole sexuality and identity has NOTHING to do with TRUE, NATURAL love, you've got to either ruin it for everyone else or try to force them to be as miserable as you are. 🤷‍♀️

[@Multifandom04]

Female Michael should’ve been the one to be flustered not Fran bc to me it made it feel her and John was wasted. It feels Fran is emotionally cheating and makes me not like her anymore. John deserves better. Would’ve loved to see infertility, grief, and finding love again with Michael.

[@rebeccallanes797]

I do agree that Michaela should of been the flustered one but that also wouldn’t make sense with the persona that Michael/Michaela presents themself with, all of that pining and yearning was extremely internal for obvious reasons. I wish it was just more subtle to show that Franny recognised that Michaela is extremely attractive and then have her move on like the book. Personally I love the gender bend change, but I don’t like the way John and Franny are being handled right now. Would I be terribly pissed if they go for a comphet story? Honestly no, but I know it will not be well received and open the actresses up to extreme amounts of hate (like what we’re seeing and have seen in the past for this show). I would rather they stay more faithful to the book in plot, allow for Francesca and John to struggle with infertility within their marriage and have their love for each other be the thing that gets them through it before he dies. Let us see how Michaela is secretly pining for Fran during next season but do not have Fran pining back (yet). Have in John’s will the tittle being passed to Michaela and their future child (we know this is possible because the Featheringtons do it albeit forged). That I think could work, people will still be pissed because any change makes people mad (you should of seen me with season 2 I was yelling at the screen when Anthony got down on that knee) and also because unfortunately homophobia is still rampant in our society.

[@ellem8990]

They also could've just not make either of them flustered and let the attraction appear slowly. I get that she probably thought she needed to leave a cliffhanger and make what was going to happen super obvious to the people watching, but she really didn't need to do that and it felt cheap. It almost feels offensive when creators think the viewers are either too stupid or impatient, so they do things like this. So it feels like she's just trying to hit these points in story telling without consideration for the characters or the actual overall story. Unfortunately it's already been done, but if they change the showrunner I might be able to pretend that it never happened.

[@Multifandom04]

@@ellem8990 agree. Same

[@hermionegranger1096]

i was PISSED when i found out they deleted POLIN SCENES? Like wth? I heard the showrunner mention she identified with Fran the most and loved her book the most that's why she focused a lot on her, but I'm like that's not the point. If it's Polin's season you focus on them as a couple and their growth, you don't just add scenes of the one character you identified with! Like how do these people become showrunners of such high budget shows? Jess brownell the new showrunner has just ruined this season for me as a Polin stan

[@Waywardwindfall]

Had this actually be confirmed by anyone from the show? I keep wondering if people are saying “scenes were cut” because Nichola said there was a PG version for her family and then a sexy version. I just wonder if that’s getting taken out of context?

[@hermionegranger1096]

@@Waywardwindfall There were people that had premiered the show uncut before the netflix release, and in that premiere there were 4 very important spicy/sensual romantic Polin scenes cut so it has been confirmed which is why people are asking for the uncut version. Polin's book is my favorite so this whole thing has been disappointing

[@LNOTUE]

Even if they focused on Francesca, they ended up ruining in too😭 à total flop

[@CosimasNiehaus]

The 'cut scenes' is a rumour, the director and Nicola confirmed they're fake. Don't trust some anonymous tumblr user who claims to have watched something not even professional critics had access to.

[@happydaze7976]

Jess Brownell said she made the changes because she wanted to see herself reflected on screen. Can someone please tell her that Bridgerton is not about her personal desires?

[@roguered706]

The Michaela controversy is half the gender swap meaning her while storyline will have to be changed- for the reasons you mentioned. The other half is the fact that they spent this whole season arguing that love can be quiet and gentle. Francesca genuinely loves John and we are thrilled for her. Then they blow it all up in the last few minutes by showing her negative reaction to the wedding kiss and making her immediate attraction to Michaela obvious. Why make us like John if they are going to eff him over immediately after his wedding? Badly done! Edit- ah, glad to see you circled back to this towards the end.

[@fizzy6412]

SPOILER ALERT-----well he dies in the books and then falls in love with the cousin

[@tom97009]

@@fizzy6412doesn’t matter. Keep the story how it is. We don’t need this ridiculous self inserted agenda cause this chick is on some bs. You wanna see representation of ya self then make a separate plot. Stop changing already established characters to fulfill your selfishness. Pathetic

[@tan2365]

I can almost bet that Francesca doesn’t know how she feels about Michaela, and it’s going to take time before she does-perhaps after John goes. You don’t fall instantly for your first queer crush. There’s a whole process you go through before you even realize that what you feel towards them is attraction because you spent your whole dating life moving through relationships not knowing that is what it feels like.

[@chaeyoungsstrawberryfarm3327]

@@tan2365 especially with the time period, she wouldnt know queer love exists

[@yulisagarcia2475]

@@fizzy6412yes but she could have waited till he died not act all taken by another person, IN FRONT OF HER HUSBAND.

[@dcndiamonds]

I am bisexual but I gotta tell you, I don’t need to see my lifestyle represented in this way, the show runner seems to think we’re offended by all straight people 😆

[@Peayou...]

I'm offended how obvous shoved in it is. Benedict makes so much sense, but they did it in a REALLY bad way

[@The-Busy-Beeeee]

​@Peayou... LITERALLY that's what pisses me off tbh

[@Anna-w2k5y]

And they way they degraded Fran/John love story with Fran's sudden bisexuality (or is she supposed to be lesbian) is just so sad😢

[@Tudleyn]

​​@@Peayou... Yeeess. At first, i thought Benedict was bi. But now, he actually being Bi, forced as this way, i don't feel the same 😢

[@Peayou...]

@@Tudleyn the buildup was awful and the reveal just as boring. Could have done a slower build but instead it felt forced. Since season 1 I thought "yeah he probably is" but this felt cheap

[@madelion24]

There are ways around the gender swap of Michael....BUUUUT....the problem with the story shown in season 3 isn't that Michael is a girl. The problem is that Francesca doesn't appear to actually love John after they get MARRIED. The first kiss at the wedding she looks confused and disappointed. Then she meets his cousin and is stumbling and stuttering all over herself...NO. Michael always fell first for Francesca. The show could have made Francesca bi like they did Benedict, but they decided to make Francesca's story Sapphic. Huge mistake and missed opportunity for representation. Most of even the book readers didn't much care for Eloise's love story, and had the show runners changed HER love interest to a Widow instead of a Widower it would have made a lot more sense and also could have had a hilarious moment of all the Bridgerton men rocking up to an estate to check on their sister only to find her in a house full of women and children and not knowing what to do with themselves. With Michael being Michaela it also means they have to get around the Killmartin title, the infertility storyline, which a lot of woman were looking forward to having representation on, and the whole Francesca actually having a deep love for John and then years later falling in love with his cousin who was their best friend. The show could have even introduced a new character completely that wasn't a Bridgerton at all as they already have side plots and characters that have nothing to do with the original story. I just find it annoying when showrunners/writers come in and are like "Oh I see myself in this character so let's tell MY story instead of the character's already established story that is loved by the fans of the books."

[@tom97009]

The problem is them changing already established characters and plot to promote their madness. Leave the story alone and let it be told as it is. Utter foolishness. Everything is now queer queer queer gender race swap like dammit leave the material alone man

[@anti.idolatry]

That makes waaay more sense and makes both book fans and keeps the same representation. Francesca is so sure of herself and her relationship and for all that build up for it not to pay off and be oops married the wrong person. yikes After an entire 8 hours of show time I still have no idea why Polin love each other. 8 hours and all I got was nothing. Pen looks hot in a french dress that's what moved them from friends to lovers.

[@ginger5872]

Nah. BOTH are problematic. Gay washing ISNT cute. It's disrespectful.

[@madelion24]

@@tom97009 I'm a queer woman so the queerness in the show has not really bothered me. It's when they fundamentally change a character's personality/character that I will have issues. The races being different don't really bother me tbh. As this is a stylized version of the past not fact. And everyone on this cast is fine as hell and can act. But they(production) have completely messed with the timeline of the characters just to keep the queen around. She has been dead for 6ish years by the time Colin and Penelope get married. Pen would have been writing as Lady Whistledown for 11 years and chosen HERSELF to stop writing. Also they taken away the loving/mutual respect relationship between Lady Danberry and Pen by keeping the Queen an active member of the plot. Pen was supposed to be 26/27 in her HEA. Also she never was vicious to those she wrote about. She was kind to those whom society disregarded or cast aside. They had Colin talking shit about her to randos when it was supposed to be a private conversation between brothers after his mother was being a bit much with her matchmaking. I don't know what they hell they are doing with Benedict. He would have been the one to catch feelings. He should be bored with society people by this point. Feeling restless, but still closer to his family. He takes on a lot of the emotional burdens in the family. That's honestly what's missing most on Bridgerton....the actual relationships between the siblings and their mother. They have made side plots that add nothing, and if this was a 24 episode season I wouldn't bat an eye, but it's not. It's only 8 episodes and Polin was an afterthought. They had less screentime together than all pervious main couples. There was no foundation built this season. It was a poorly executed season because it was complete character assassination for every Bridgerton. Even Anthony was off, with not immediately blabbing to his whole family that he was going to be a father and then NOT ATTENDING HIS BABY SISTER'S WEDDING? I'm sorry...in what scenario would that have EVER happened?

[@tom97009]

@@madelion24 I agree I agree I agree

[@slymaedox]

IT LITERALLTY IS THE OPPOSITE REACTION: Michael's character hinges on him being AN ETHICAL rake, which he uses as a cover to hide how he fell for Francesca right before she marries John (which is when they met - at her wedding). HOW DARE THEY MAKE HER FLUSTERED AT THE COUSIN - it is literally the opposite! He has a one sided yearning for YEARS, and then the whole issue is that Michael, who had no title nor social expectations and was happy about it, now is basically having to occupy his cousin's life, and THAT is an important aspect. A woman in this setting could NEVER be able to have the same poignant plot - especially because she simply has no position to have the same story, because she would not inherit the title and the position in politics. Which is what Kilmartin has, ffs.

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

Thank you for encapsulating the purpose of the story so succinctly. Jess should hire you as an interpreter as she missed the mark by the widest of margins. Or, perhaps, she just doesn't care that she's largely offended the core fanbase!

[@redlioness9782]

Benedict’s book revolves around the fact that he is “the perfect gentleman”, he and Sophie had a love at first sight moment, and then she leaves and disappears from his life, when they meet again and he didn’t recognizes her, he asks her to be his mistress and she refuses because she fears that in doing so she could condemn a child to the same fate she had (seeing as she is a bastard child), if they turn her into a man or into a transwoman the entirety of her plot looses meaning, the people that don’t see the problem with that are either morons, hadn’t read the books properly, or are just joining in because it’s a Netflix show that had good seasons in the past, BESIDES ALL THAT, Bridgestone is Woman Literature, it was not written as a queer story because it’s not a queer story, it’s like getting Heartstopper and changing the main couple into a heterosexual one, it’s like grabbing Emma or Pride and Prejudice and turning the main characters into a homosexual romance, it’s a slap in the face of all Quinn’s fan base that had supported her work through out the years

[@delightful999]

Exactly!! This captures so aptly what I feel.

[@crystaleefyffe1230]

If Sophie is a man that's where I'm done with this show. I signed up for romance between the main couples, not any genderbent storyline that doesn't make sense that no one but Jess wants. Netflix always does this with successful shows. Look at the Witcher, no one talks about that series anymore. It's almost like it never happened.

[@Lime1958]

And Julia Quinn the author gave Jess the green light to make it a queer story. If the author wants to make it inclusive who exactly is the audience to stop her again? ITS HER BOOKS. Women have 4 seasons of a heteronormative couples. If she wants to make 3 couples queer more power to her. If women are so offended by our queer love stories then tune out. We'll support the show whether it's hetero or queer either way. The entitlement you people have is INSANE

[@redlioness9782]

@@Lime1958 It was OUR BOOKS FIRST!!, the entitlement is from the Queer community that thinks it’s ok to grasp at every little thing of enjoyment of the world and make it about yourselves, just because “Quinn’s gave her approval” doesn’t mean that we, HER ORIGINAL FANS have to support every little decision she made to bend over a stupid agenda from people that fell hurt by only talking to people that have different views as them, why do WE as woman always have to bend over and just accept the fact that, ONCE AGAIN, the queer community feels the entitlement to take something from ours?, first our sports and bathrooms, now EVEN OUR MEDIA of entertainment, the series and books WE love as a whole are being taken from us, what’s comes next?, will Netflix also go for “A court of Thorns and Roses” next and also take that series from us?, will they take “A Touch of Darkness”series too and turn it into a queer romance as well for “more inclusivity”?, You all may support the atrocities that Jess has developed for the rest of the show, that’s fine, and if Quinn wishes to be a little gremlin like this pathetic excuse for a director, she can do that as well, after all the series is hers, but I, as HER fan, a fan that had supported her work NOT ONLY with her Bridgerton’s series, but also with the Rebel Dames trilogy and was hopping to conclude the Belvestok one, ALSO have the meanings of just stopping MY support over her work, I just hope she realizes that slapping the face of your community over an overestimated agenda has it’s consequences as well.

[@redlioness9782]

@@Lime1958 It was OUR BOOKS FIRST!!, the entitlement is from the Queer community that thinks it’s ok to grasp at every little thing of enjoyment of the world and make it about yourselves, just because “Quinn’s gave her approval” doesn’t mean that we, HER ORIGINAL FANS have to support every little decision she made to bend over a stupid agenda from people that fell hurt by only talking to people that have different views as them, why do WE as woman always have to bend over and just accept the fact that, ONCE AGAIN, the queer community feels the entitlement to take something from ours?, first our sports and bathrooms, now EVEN OUR MEDIA of entertainment, the series and books WE love as a whole are being taken from us, what’s comes next?, will Netflix also go for “A court of Thorns and Roses” next and also take that series from us?, will they take “A Touch of Darkness”series too and turn it into a queer romance as well for “more inclusivity”?, You all may support the atrocities that Jess has developed for the rest of the show, that’s fine, and if Quinn wishes to be a little gremlin like this pathetic excuse for a director, she can do that as well, after all the series is hers, but I, as HER fan, a fan that had supported her work NOT ONLY with her Bridgerton’s series, but also with the Rebel Dames trilogy and was hopping to conclude the Belvestok one, ALSO have the meanings of just stopping MY support over her work, I just hope she realizes that slapping the face of your community over an overestimated agenda has it’s consequences as well.

[@melissaisloud7404]

This new Showrunner took the franchise’s biggest fumble with how she disregarded Polin in their own season. It’s giving the last season of GOT.

[@jtarwa4088]

Not to mention, the editing was terrible! The air balloon scene, what was that? The transition to other character subplots was jarring. The costumes, makeup and fake nails were giving Hunger Games. All the technical changes really took me out of the show when watching it. Totally different from the first two seasons and Queen Charlotte. 😢😢

[@pettybee3860]

Righhhhtttt. Not to mention the weird threesome splicing into other scenes😭and I'm thinking how long was this boring ass threesome cause it's morning on the other scenes and he got jiggy with them at night- like 😭😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭

[@roguered706]

When Netflix (or anyone) decides to adapt a book series they do so because they expect a built in fan base to give them a leg up in ratings and sales. They should therefore really have more respect for the fans and not stray too far from the source material. If the show runner wants to create a beautiful queer love story, great. Then write an original story, or pick from one kf the many already written. By choosing to change a book with a straight character into a gay one, aren't they essentially saying that the books written about gay characters arent good enough? Can anyone give an example of a movie or tv series where they went drastically away from a beloved source story and people were thrilled about the changes?

[@Mimakirigoe298]

The Witcher is a great example of what happens when showrunners think that they can do a better job than the author. Their main star left, and the last season flopped.

[@bda2444]

​@@Mimakirigoe298yep

[@bda2444]

Also suddenly they were hating the source material. The last of us video game led fans astray for 7 years the same. Writer dissed his own org material and hired gay_militant feminine + violence for some sort of lesson of teaching gamers revenge is bad. Translated to replaced lead already gay girl with a comical overly muscled bitch heteo.... talk about a hot mess. then did the same for the show __to show a gay lovescene of a minor char. And the gay producer said, I was going truck and force them to like it. Um...pretty sure the game was about zombies by virus, not political agendas. Bleah

[@alondrahernandez1882]

Franchael is my second favorite pairing right after Polin, to say I’m disappointed is an understatement. She first butchered this season with the many subplots and left dust to the main couple then replaced one of the hottest leads of the Bridgerton series (yes, I said what I said) abruptly without any type of explanation or build up to, at least, make us go “oh, so this is why it happened”. I was so EAGERLY waiting for Michael like y’all won’t understand how I lost it when John first appeared on screen. Francesca’s story is so heartbreaking, vulnerable and the exploration of grief evolved to allow yourself to love again without really erasing that first love completely was explored beautifully, I hope this backlash can at least strike a chord and knock some sense into her

[@delightful999]

The way they set up Michaela intro scene was clearly a nod to the book readers, because without the context of the book, the scene doesn't really make any sense. And then they go ahead and disrespect the book readers. Like make some sense Jess

[@imscanon]

I fully agree, Michael is the sexiest person in the whole series and I was SO looking forward to seeing him onscreen. Even setting that aside though, of all the characters in all the books, Fran and Michael are the two least changeable as their story fully centers around his BEING a man, as a woman can't become the new Earl or feel like she's taking over John's life and his wife and Fran can't very well obsess over her infertility for years if she's with a woman. NONE of her story can happen with this change. They planning to get Fran hanged? She and Michaela gonna go live with Anthony when the new Earl takes over John's title and lands? Or are they gonna be a threesome and live happily ever after because John doesn't die? Considering she inexplicably decided she didn't love John anymore within 2 mins. of marrying him, I don't see a threesome being viable, so what is the plan here? It's the most ill thought out ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Of all the characters, this was one change that just can't logically be made.

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

@@imscanon I'm expecting Michaela to be revealed as a trans woman but I no longer care, so won't be watching future series.

[@elham777]

they seriously need to redo it it was such a disappointment after 2 years of waiting. so upsetting

[@elham777]

and the fact it was so focused on francesca when we don’t even know anything about her, we don’t know anything about colin’s personality to root for him to be with penelope, i wasn’t as invested in them as much as i was with kanthony and simon/daphne

[@elham777]

yea and sorry not sorry but benedict and his threesome storyline?? no thanks

[@pettybee3860]

Literally. You hit the mark on this fr

[@a.m4863]

I am all for inclusivity but I just feel like this season has made it unnaturally forced. Also wayy too many side plots which defeats the purpose of Bridgerton as a show. That's literally the point of the show! Ugh.

[@isa12rae]

Michael into Michaela is forced and beyond unnecessary.

[@ginger5872]

So was Benedict being bisexual when he was NEVER bisexual to begin with and being goofy, artistic, and eccentric, DOESN'T " magically " make a person gay or bi. It's like NORMAL actions , personality traits, and people, can no longer just be, they have to he labeled and forced into some made up, stupid, sexualized box.

[@orsolyamihalyfi4197]

Everybody says if you don't like this gender swap, that is certainly because you're homophobic. Which is utter nonsence in my case. I am heterosexual, but really enjoy reading about, watching of and meeting LGBTQ+ people. My problem with this change is Michael being a man is an important and crutial aspect of his character. He is who he is, because he is a man. I know it maybe sounds stupid and dreamy, but these characters have been with me for ages. I discovered and enjoyed Julia Quinn's books in my teenage years, and I loved her writing instantly. I love reading gay couple books as well, and I think and hope there should be and would be more gay lead couple shows and movies, but this character in this book was not the right choice. You see, it would not be Francesca's story anymore. It was Miss Brownell's idea of a queer woman representation because she saw herself in this story. But it is not her story, it should be Francesca's, but it never will be. And that's the reason I feel like I was robbed from a really true, emotional and good story. There are many very good LGBTQ+ romance books, which could be valid source materials for tv shows, films. And those would be authentic because those are written from a gay couple's perspective. The industry should do more shows like that, but this was not the optional and logical case for that. I'm sorry if I offend someone, it is truly not from a homophobic perspertive.

[@The-Busy-Beeeee]

I am bisexual and I got the exact same issues with this story from the points you said. The people saying your homophonic probably haven't read the books or just want to excuse it because they feel so starved for rep which is bs

[@orsolyamihalyfi4197]

@@tan2365 well, I would totally watch that show! But this story should have not about them 😔

[@crystaleefyffe1230]

And Fran finally got pregnant and brought her son home to meet Voilet. Will Michaela be impregnating Fran, or has this flew over Jess's head, and she'll just insert an orphanage where Fran goes to adopt a child?

[@otashu26]

I’m just going to say this, my heart goes out to you that you feel that you have to apologize just because someone will be offended when that’s not even your fault. You’re allowed to have an opinion.

[@orsolyamihalyfi4197]

@@otashu26 thank you ☺ I wanted to make a comment that's not offending anyone, but it is truly hard.. there will always be somebody who doesn't agree with you, or takes your comment the wrong way, but I tried nonetheless...

[@mirrorreflex]

I enjoyed the Lady Whistledown stuff and the Portia and Featherington plots. However, there was not much of a focus on the romance. The season was more Penelope focused than Penelope x Colin focused.

[@alexandracastillo340]

What I missed was Colin’s internal struggle with his feelings… that gives him more depth and make him a complex character…

[@Multifandom04]

Would love Chris to come back or Shonda to take over. Or a better show runner. Jess is awful and will kill this show. Hope she listens to the fans though for season 4.

[@sandratcunha]

100% agree with you.

[@embodyingmysticalmac]

On a lesser note, the range the costuming and MU department were given to stray from historical accuracy was VERY distracting to me. I recognize this may be a personal problem, but I genuinely loved being able to see the regency era reflected amidst the newness of BIPOC representation they made room for. Love your takes. As someone who’s read all the books, I am disappointed about the choice to gender swap Michael because there are not very many ways infertility can be explored with a same sex couple in that time period. I also agree that Eloise would have been the best choice for the queer storyline. This season was just very disappointing to me all around 😣

[@pettybee3860]

Thank you. I also agree. It wasn't super accurate to begin with but it wasn't to the point where I'm seeing miss girl with ACRYLIC NAILS?????

[@redlioness9782]

Also, there’s a difference into making minor changes into a story and major ones, making Anthony and Edwina almost marry in season 2 was a minor one, it doesn’t really affect his stories plot as much, changing a character’s gender just to serve an agenda that we as fans didn’t ask for is NOT a minor change!

[@candymax2065]

Actually changing the gender of a character is the least amount of change you can do to a character in my opinion. Changing their motivations and morals is a bit more serious. Like there were deceit and cheating towards Katețs baby sister in season 2, that was not a small tiny change.

[@winterfire1097]

ALL anger, flames, and vulgarity should be squarely directed to the showrunner. She has chosen to anger the devoted fans. Just as in TWD when Scott Gimple "The pimple" killed Carl Grimes. We lost it with him. That he literally killed off the future of TWD. So far I'm glad to see Michael's genderbent actress is not getting hatred which makes me happy. But the writers, Showrunner and netflix are fair game imo. Also, even if it was a gay relationship it will not be as forward as Daphne and The Duke, Kanthony, or Polin. Look at Brimsley/Reginald. They jad to keep their love in the shadows. The marriage mart for peats sake is so important when Daphne gets "compromised" by Simon they have to immediately marry! Make it make sense. Also yes to Eloise being gay, she'd be so much happier, but only with another intellectual eoman like herself. Franchesca and John forever.

[@crystaleefyffe1230]

As a bisexual person, I dont need to see a hubdred meaningless orgies to feel validated. I watched Bridgerton and enjoyed it because I know what I'm getting, and I happen to like the stories. I don't need to see heterosexual stories turn queer to satisfy me. If I want to see a great family drama, I'll rewatch Modern Family. I love Bridgerton for the ROMANCE, and Jess seemed to have forgotten who her core audience was. What I want are new Bi characters. Anyway, Sunday can't come fast enough so I can watch episode 2 of House of the Dragon. At least Ryan Condal knows how to do adaptations and make minor changes without butchering the source source material.

[@jessicaponticello8937]

I read the books and changing Michael to Michaela completely changes the whole dynamic and I can’t imagine why they did it. It literally changes everything and I’m not sure it’s going to be very good. Guess we have to wait and see .

[@MsYugiboy]

why butcher something that already has a set fanbase!!! its doesnt make sense!! the decision as well doesnt make sense!! the whole relationship between michael and Francessca is about infertility!! that doesnt work with a queer couple!!!! she would kill to be a mom. it seems they dont care anymore since they make the big bucks with Bridgerton!! its so stupid!! if they want to do a queer couple than it would make sense to be Eloise. It wouldve been perfect considering her own story. This was just done out of selfishness!!! It disrespects the characters and invalidates the relationship between Fran and John as well as Fran and Michael.

[@juliaseibs8840]

Wait how tho cause she could obviously have infertility issues while with John and then she can’t have children with Micheala so idk how that makes a diff. If she’s bi it’s not invalidating because she loves them both plus if we are caring abt the books why would it be okay to change Eloise story. I just think people believe Eloise is what a stereotypical queer person it and yall don’t see Fran that way

[@jenjen208]

Wasnt she pregnant in the book when John passes and then she suffers a miscarriage? If she wants children how is she supposed to have them in a lesbian relationship in this time period? They build Her and John up this WHOLE season just to tear them down at the end. No bueno imo

[@ev342]

do you really think queer people cant struggle with infertility? even then, im glad Michaela is a woman now because she wont be threatening to trap Fran via impregnation for the majority of their season.

[@roguered706]

​@@juliaseibs8840I think it's because Eloise's story in the books kind of sucks and few people really connect with it on an emotional level. On the other hand, Francesca's story is unique compared to the rest of the books so people got extra attached. If Hyacinth or Gregory were old enough maybe people would suggest giving one of them a queer love story, but they are not so Eloise is the only one left to play with right now.

[@tom97009]

Spider-Man is my favorite hero, linkin park is one of my all time favorite bands and Justin Timberlake is one of my favorite artists. I don’t need to to be black for me to appreciate their craft. You wanna see representation of yourself? Then make your own. It’s annoying that they are talking already established characters and changing them. I had one person say “well I guess you don’t like race swap? The book is majority filled with white characters so they had to change to fit with the times for inclusion “ Yes a book that was created by a white woman had predominantly white characters…Shocker!!! So I guess we should be shocked that Chinese people make Chinese food? Or do we race swap hip hop cause majority of the artist are black? Like wtf lol ya really hear guilt tripping people who don’t look like you to validate you? Good lord.

[@lyannamormont1473]

Agree, too many subplots to little Polin. 🤷‍♀

[@anon35423]

As a book fan I will say Michael vs Michaela is a huge change to the story because of the infertility issues Fran goes through. I've seen the arguement that queer people go through infertility as well which I respect and understand, but it is very different exploring this topic with a same sex couple vs a straight couple and I was looking forward to the story being explored through the original pairing as I know women who have had this struggle with their husbands and can relate to this. I also think Eloise would have been the perfect story to explore a queer romance with since Phillip was such a bore

[@hilda666]

They could literally still explore it through frans relationships with john too

[@anon35423]

@@hilda666 they could but unfortunately it does go beyond her relationship with John and is a main plot point with her and Michael and their relationship, it will be completely different with this change here, and I do understand queer people have infertility issues as well but again it will be a very different situation here and something that others won’t be able to directly relate to anymore

[@anon35423]

@@hilda666 I do think it would’ve been great if they made this choice with Eloise and with Benedict as well, it’s just this particular story that as a book fan I just would’ve liked for it to remain the same

[@hilda666]

@anon35423 i don't really understand your point. We all know that they've thrown book accuracy (and historical) out of the window there's so many changes they could do and even without the lesbianism (used as umbrella term) it's gonna be a very different story. I still hope they're gonna include the infertility plotline but it's obviously not gonna be the same either way

[@hilda666]

@anon35423 also about what you said about queer people's infertility problems being very different that's just incorrect. In some ways for some people yes that's the case but nobody's infertility journey is gonna be the exact same. It can still have a lot of similarities. I would also love it if Michaela was trans, don't think they're gonna do that but it would be interesting to see how they explored their love story and infertility journey with that included. Historical accuracy has already been abandoned long ago so they can kinda just make up whatever they want

[@marystombaugh2282]

It just kind of stunk to watch them undermine the entire point they made with Violet realizing that there are different kinds of love/relationships and that they are all valid. To have Francesca immediately meet someone she fell "passionately" for, implied that she had somehow found the right one and had settled with John, the "wrong" one. It's silly.

[@VirginiaRancier]

For me, the problem with Francesca is not that she is a queer, it is that she does not love her husband. An important part of her story is finding love after losing love... but now, she never loved the guy, they make it seem like she only married him because she wanted to get out of the house and the guy is pretty easy going, like she is using him. But the biggest crime of this season is the lack of polin.

[@VirginiaRancier]

They should let Francesca and her husband be happy, maybe have fertility issues but eventually have a boy and then he dies. After that, Mikaela helps her they fall in love and since she already had a boy with her late husband, they get to keep the house and everything

[@VirginiaRancier]

They could have have her hole relationship with John play on the background of next season and for her season we get her love story with Mikaela... like at the beginning of her season we get to see a bit of her happiness with John and his death (like ep 1), and then we get her relationship with Mikaela to be the main focus of that season.

[@allier1867]

yeah it annoys me so much they made her look confused and conflicted when she married John like come on!!

[@vart88]

People can argue all they want but Netflix needs to leave main love stories, as they are. Simply because, if you're going to change the main love story, it's no longer, Bridgerton story, it's just a new story. People want to see Francesca fall in love with Michael and have 2 children with him, because that's their story.

[@80sdreamwave32]

This show going down hill for me

[@The-Busy-Beeeee]

It's going down hill for a LOTof people tbf

[@brendatomines8171]

I'm sick and tired of the woke culture, it's not the same as I'm saying I'm homophobic, i love shows like heartstopper, love victor, young royals, because this are authentic shows, not a something that already exist that get changed to fit an agenda, why woke enjoy so much to ruin things that are already established?!?! Everything get political or gender bending or racial bending, I'm not all against changing the gender but we have to listen what the audience wants, like I've said in other videos, i was ok with Eloise and Benedict being queer, because since season one they were already given hints of that possibility, it feels organic, but with Francesca's it's out of nowhere and it ends up ruin her journey in the books.

[@tomatosoup1304]

I get so mad when people say fans are homophobic for being upset about the genderswap. I'm not denying there is some homophobia but a majority of fans are very happy with Eloise having the queer storyline and are very happy to explain why they're upset and give very valid points in regards to seeing Fran's fertility especially since it's something that many women suffer from and in her time period, she would've been seen as 'broken' or 'defective' so it would've been really emotional to see on tv. And then show fans are confused as to why the writers built up the beauty of 'quiet love' with her and John only to undermine it last minute

[@candyrox1493]

"You make a straight character gay and no one bats an eye... but you make a gay character straight, and everyone loses their min-"

[@ellem8990]

Have you not read these comments, because I see a bunch of people losing their minds over the gender swap/making fran gay....

[@candyrox1493]

@@ellem8990 i meant in general hun. You show this video to those that dont actively search this drama and they'll flip out

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

The series has turned to shite. Read the books instead!

[@barbaraadams2237]

I agree! The books are so much better!!❤

[@Starlight_fr]

the correct ranking of the seasons (the gap represents how good they are COMPARED to each other) 1. Queen Charlotte 2. bridgerton Seaon 2 3. Bridgerton season 1 4. bridgerton season 3

[@keienn7259]

After a while, I came to accept genderbent Michael. But I wondered why I still wasn't really feeling it and it was because of what they did to Fran and John. The whole part 1 showed how wholesome their quiet love was. Part 2 showed Fran fighting for their love despite it being different from what her family is used to. We saw Violet learn something new from her daughter and accept that she was wrong about her only perception of love. And in the last episode, they just threw that aside and said, "Sike!"

[@maribelestrada9063]

They missed an opportunity to tell a story of a widow and falling in love after it would have been a beautiful story

[@Heaven420Leigh]

I wish she would have given us backstory information to sell their love story more. Ive decided to read the book series to see how it actually played out 🙃

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

Other than the first series which, in my view, improved on the book, the novels are infinitely better than the Netflix version. I've stopped watching the series. I fast forwarded so much of series 3 that I watched it in a fraction of the time.

[@lilliesinthegard32]

Listen if i was in charge of a show and i related to a character so bad that i wanted to change their original story to make them end up with someone else or have a different kind of romance, i would just write a fanfic about it under a different name. I would *not* let if affect my job or my professionalism, much less risking more job opportunities by trying to entitle myself to change it all to fit my taste and angering book fans

[@theliterarytarot]

I agree. I love Nicola and Luke, they were amazing, passionate, my favorite couple, but their scenes were soooo slim and the changes from the book did NOT help. Do NOT like the myriad sex scenes with Benedict in the last crucial episodes (did feel thrown in there) and everyone else on the planet taking over. Also in the book Colin can’t help but be intimate with Penelope even when he’s mad/jealous and that doesn’t last long so this just feel inauthentic to the love story and their clear chemistry. I am annoyed with “Michaela” too as a book fan who had my own vision for the most passionate story of the series. Sheesh. I can’t stand social media (besides of course YT) but I can imagine the heat.

[@aoifeandginny5569]

Nothing happens in it, Colin is mad at her for about 5 minutes, I thought it might be interesting to have that be more of a slow burn, have their marriage rocky over a season and how they both cope with it.

[@misscharmingx]

jess when i catch you jess

[@dumitrita12ani]

I just loved Francesca’s book… and from what is see her book is a fan favourite. Why change one of the best books in the series?!?

[@zelulu1000]

Queer baiting. If you don't know Hollywood has one unique objective push an agenda. They saw how we were so eager for romance so now they push their agenda in our throat. They literally showed more of Benedict bisexua fucking that Poline in their own show.

[@imscanon]

Jess, the showrunner, clearly didn't have any interest in Polin's story at all and filled the season with everything she could BUT their story then had to rush their story by shoehorning it in, in pieces, here and there just to get the main plot points of it in there. It was ridiculous and insulting to Quinn, to the book lovers and the series lovers. She must be fired before she does any further damage to the revered reputation of the series and the books. And why for the love of literature did Fran meet and marry John during POLIN's season? She has her own upcoming season for all that. Polin was clearly an afterthought this whole season.

[@zuhasajid900]

I am glad people are outraged hopefully next season will be better ! Also i don't like when they put queer storyline just for diversity like without any build up!

[@denisadellinger4543]

If you are going to talk about Bridgerton you need to read the books. We feel betrayed by Franchesca and Michaela story because Michael is our favorite. The Benedict sandwich story was just salacious. We book fans dont mind some change and adaptation but this is just the limits of enough. I could write a book on the outrage. We loved the world Shonda created of diversity. But modern day views on gays is not right. Homosexuality was illegal. You had to live lies and it was not safe. That is a sad story. Bridgerton is not sad!

[@chloeharmer2403]

I am gay and I don't need representation in this way. don't butcher a straight storyline that is so loved. We have gay erotica to. i'm not bothered about being represented in what is supposed to be a straight story for a straight audience. It actually feels a little disrespectful of Jess Brownell to introduce a forced gay storyline just for the sake of inclusion

[@andyexe2213]

People wanted queer Eloise and they butchered it on season 2 with Theo. Now I thought it was going to be Cressida but it wasn’t????

[@Lime1958]

Im a polin girlie and i identify as pansexual. I wouldnt say they butchered it but so many things went wrong with this season. The pacing was off Unnecessary characters THE COSTUMES.😬 what they did to Francesca. Francesca being queer is completely fine but id prefer that she discovers this after her time with John. It seems that they're giving Violet the 2nd love storyline. Francesca should also have that and shes just the queer version.

[@ciminot1222]

If they change Sophie it won't change Benedicts part but it will change Sophie, it would be sad for me because she is my favorite love interest in the Bridgerton universe, I was so invested in her character and arc.... Book Spoiler here.... Sophies biggest fear in her relationship with Benedict is falling pregnant and having his bastard children (since Sophie herself is a bastard)

[@Willow-cw9te]

Benedict is my favorite Bridgerton and they have been doing him so dirty in the past seasons, so if they do his season like season 3, I’m going to be so disappointed. 😢

[@victoryv116]

I don't care about genders ..but the thing it should be romantic , you should have butterflies in your stomach whole watching those couples ...but this time briderton lack that romance passion and longing . I am not here for education of different sexuality and different plot ..bridgerton was sex filled romance fantasy for female gaze and I wanted that .. Benedict is just reduced to his sexuality ...like okay fine ..where his passion of art and how it defined by his sexuality ..mean the sex was boring ...the biggest disservice is done to Penelope ...poor girl ..they couldn't even give her proper show .there was no romance , all I see her tensed ..her character arc was showing through her struggle with lady whistle identity however there is no character arch with respect to colin .which should be crux of the show and lady whistledown identity was a sub plot to it This new maker just remove the element of "romance" from the series ..I am not here to see real relationships , I am here for FAIRY TALES If they really want to improve the Benedict story line , they should introduce the transgender person who is struggling to adjust in society , shamed by their parents , has to keep their true identity in secret and only Benedict could make them feel loved , accepted ...I think it would be great story plot which could also resonate with real novel too

[@kissofarose100]

Butcher also Sophie and the third volume! Seriously?! 🤦‍♀🤦‍♀

[@victoryv116]

@@kissofarose100 now bringing Sophie as the real novel outlines and designs will not be fit into the series given that now benedict character is changed ..how do they fit Sophie ...i am thinking that show maker might not give monogamous relationship to benedict ...really i have no problem with gender but what they are doing is butchering character , intentions, archs

[@fj1482]

Its Brigerton in name only now. Instead of making a sweet story about dealing with the lose of a child and the emotions and depression that can come with it, which 23 million woman world wide experiance each year, they decided that wasn't important and wouldn't resonate with the audience. That lets us know Bridgerton wasn't made for millions of people. That's okay Bridgerton wasn't made for me. I'll just stop watching along with the other millions who this story is what we have lived through. They can rake one of the series make characters and make them gay and be the center plot. They can even make a spin off that explores same sex relationships in the Bridgerton time line. #dontpridemybridgerton

[@ev342]

homophobia in the year 2024? yikes. embarrassing.

[@Multifandom04]

They shouldn’t have changed Fran story. Should’ve wrote another original story/ change Cressida or Eloise.

[@heathermerizan3890]

I’M PISSED!!!!! Love the books and this did make me very upset. I feel like this season is an entire mess. I watched some of Bridgerton and then went and read the books. Loved the books and then came back for the show..and then this happened. I’ve sid to others that Benedict doesn’t really bother me too much as they were hinting at it, but they threw this in for the sake of having, that’s it. Francesca’s story is so messed up now and I agree with what you said about the book lovers issues as I see it. The other travesty is Polin. The book is so sweet with Colin LOVING Penelope even as he battles with know she’s Whistledown. In the end he saves Pen by orchestrating her basic debut. Their story about Colin’s writing was mostly removed. He trusted Pen with his writing because of her amazing writing she done. Plus he feels a little overwhelmed that Penelope is this great writer and he’s not sure of himself, but she encourages him and it’s a wonderful intimacy that they pretty much got rid of. All in all, I doubt I’ll watch anymore seasons. Best to just reread the books and enjoy them!

[@Mimakirigoe298]

I literally skipped Benedict's scenes, they were boring. This season was confusing, it was supposed to be: Polin's season, as a main couple like other seasons. Also I love how vocal fans are about Michael's gender swap, I don't support it because 1 they will change Francesca's story, and 2 it feels cheap or lazy. They gave us Brimsley and Reynolds in Queen Charlotte, and it felt authentic, something that was created with love. I personally don't feel the need to feel represented as a bisexual woman, I feel happy with any type of couple in media as long it's cute/romantic and doesn't involve any disturbing topic.

[@snoopygonewilder]

Part 1 was okay, but then they pretty much ruined the whole thing with Part 2. I didn't even care about Pen and Colin's relationship by the end of part 2. They honestly spent way too much time on the Mondrich family, and it was pointless, they are not important. Honestly, I was more interested in Francesca and John's story, which was pretty much perfect until they kinda ruined with Francesca's reaction to Michaela. I'll start out by saying that while I can see the issues in her story by gender-bending Michael to Michaela, that's not what really bothered me. What I'm not okay with is Francesca having anything but a friendly reaction to her at this point, it reduces her relationship with John to less. The point of her story, besides the infertility, is that there can be two great loves in your lives, both very different, but both as important, and both exactly what you needed at the time. At this time, Francesca should be all about John, and Michaela should be nothing but her cousin by marriage. I do want an honorable mention to Cressida, the show did her dirty. I was starting to really like her character in the show and then they just F'd her over, and everyone abandoned her, maybe what she did was messed up, and I don't condone it, but I get it. She was being forced to marry that old creepy dude who was older than her father, and from what she said, older than her grandfather, or moving to Wales to live with an aunt who seemed to be worse than her father. P.S.: Another book series where they deal with infertility, which has a show is Virgin River, in case anyone is interested.

[@abcdef-nz7qz]

As a person who has not read the book and did not know about francesca's story while watching the episode, i became sus when she stammered while meeting her, but i was okay with her being queer cuz i barely knew anything about her in the show. (which after knowing the book story makes sense as to why ppl are upset) Benedict on the other hand being a RAKE, suddenly into guys made it seem like they did it for the viewers being upset cuz he wasnt gay in S1, it was too forced

[@Willow-cw9te]

I haven’t even read the books, so I didn’t even know Michaela was supposed to be Michael. I just didn’t like how Francesca spent the whole season convincing everyone, including the Queen that she didn’t have a dramatic, edgy type of love, but her love for John was real( a very reasonable argument). Only for her to be stammering for his cousin two minutes after she married John, like what the heck???? Not only did that ruin the entire premise of her love story but it made her whole romance arc redundant (wasted time), because now it seems like she doesn’t actually love her husband, but this was just screen time that could have gone to Polin as a couple because we barely saw them due to all the subplots, even though it’s their season. 🙄🙄

[@slymaedox]

Also, Eloise book doesn't suck! It is a specific type of romance, and gods, I love Phillip Crane IN THE BOOKS. They ruined my bear of a man botanist who could so easily be neurodivergent coded - socially awkward, more taciturn and with a special interest he has specialized in and devotes a lot of time into. Because even after the romance and marriage with Eloise, it is a CHARACTER aspect of him from his childhood, gdi.

[@imscanon]

1000% the showrunner must be fired before Day 1 of the next season films a single frame. She had zero clue and zero fucks on how to DO her job, wholly unqualified. Didn't know even the basics of storytelling like precedent, foreshadowing, consistency, congruency, pace, tension building, chemistry, absolutely nothing. Did they pluck her out of the crowd on D1 of film school? This season was a sloppy, choppy, disorganized mess. I've never seen such bad outcome of stellar source material in my life. Only ONE thing was actually good and that is changing the LWD reveal to be done Pen's way rather than Colin 'rescuing' her. It was much better fitting that she got to do it her way and in the process, let the Queen save face, apologize to the ton and get their forgiveness and admiration, get Eloise and Colin both back in her life, get the respect of her sisters and her mom and handle her Mom's solicitor problem - all on her own to show the badass she is. No rescuing required. I loved that so much. Only part of the whole season that made any sense at all. Obvs. too many subplots that had no purpose and stole way too much time that should have been building plot between Polin. The #1 ridiculousness though is changing Michaela to Michael. When I read about the showrunning saying essentially that she just decided she wanted to change the gender and didn't care a whit what anyone had to say about it, I vowed right then not to watch that season. I will not be disrespected like that, nor should ANY fan of the books or the series. WE MATTER, Jess, WE are the reason you got a paycheck. OUR SUPPORT of the series is why it exists at all. F-U for fucking it up on a whim with zero regard to established precedent, character development that already occurred, elements of the actual story to be adapted that cannot occur with this change, and so much more that makes this change just ridiculous and done with zero thought to the books, series, story, or the fans who love it. If you wanted to make one of the Bridgertons gay or bi, Fran wasn't the right choice esp without laying any groundwork to counteract the precedents already set for her and the series. We gonna see her hanged? Because Benedict's art friend already said one got hanged for that. We gonna suspend the fact that she loves quiet people and has said all she wants is a husband, kids, and quiet? That she loves John so much? That he's an Earl so if he dies, as he does in the book, a male relative needs to assume his title and if it's not Michael, then she's likely out on her ear? She and Michaela gonna go live with Anthony? Michaela certainly can't be the Earl or inherit - that precedent is already stated. The Featherington's already set precedent that a male heir from somewhere gets to take over. Or doesn't she care about precedent? Doesn't care how she insults our intelligence with that? ALL of Fran's story centers around Michael agonizing about usurping John's life and not wanting to erase him entirely by taking his wife as well since he had no choice but become the Earl and taking his title and lands. Fran friendzoned him and needs to figure out that she can love him. Fran is baby obsessed and spends most of the book agonizing over not being able to conceive then her Mom 'absorbs her pain' and she ends up with two children and happy. NONE of any of that can happen if you change the gender. You toss aside the entire story and write a new one? That's not an adaptation, that's an original screenplay now and highly disrespectful to Julia Quinn, and I'm sure goes against her agreement for the adaptation. Some license to change things is acceptable, but not the disregard to the ENTIRE story and not without at least some foreshadowing or precedent and consistency. There should have been some nuggets laid and they shouldn't have made him an Earl, shouldn't have had her aversion to loud people, shouldn't have stated one gets hanged for it, etc. if this was the goal. You can't just plop in something that goes against everything that led up to it and expect no one to raise an eyebrow or be insulted. Fire Jess immediately. She ruined S3 entirely and this mistake in judgment to take a chance on her needs to be rectified before she ruins any further seasons as the loyal fans of the books and shows simply will not tolerate a repeat of S3 mess. She single handedly ruined your series and this must be rectified before the series continues. It's not too late to get back on track. Have Eloise have a tryst with Michaela and Michael show up once in Scotland. Problem solved. Then, if you must, you can change Philip to Philippa, a widow with 2 kids, without changing Eloise's story overmuch as her story doesn't 'require' Philip to be a man really as in large part she mostly just reforms the children and helps him get over the death of his spouse. He can be a She without a story-tossing necessity. But, Fran's story requires Michael be Michael. It just does. Fix it. Please. We beg you.

[@gems3604]

I agree with you. But the author posted on Instagram that she was 100% on board and that fans should "trust" the showrunner. The author has been a guest on a few different forums cheering and applauding Shondaland. The author has made a lot of money as a result of her Netflix collaboration. Her positions seems to be that she can reassure her fans. It would be interesting to see what the terms of her adaptation deal entail. Already she has new books based on her collaboration with Shondaland/Netflix. I wonder if she is able to do another deal with another production studio that more closely aligns with the original concept of Bridgerton or at the very least doesn't "butcher" the source material as blatantly as the current showrunner. But I don't think the author has any say either way at this point. Netflix/Shondaland will assess the gravity of the reactions and act in some way. I think a lot of people, not just book fans are unhappy about Season 3. It's not just the English speaking fans, either. Netflix makes its money from streaming. Are fans angry enough to stop watching?

[@imscanon]

@@gems3604 The author's words have been in support of inclusivity and diversity specifically, not, I noticed, in support specifically of changing Michael. That's telling. I get that she had to say something in support due to all the backlash, but one can infer from what she said specifically that she may not be on board with the specific change they made. I am certainly angry enough to stop watching if they don't fire the showrunner and bring Michael back and respect Fran's marriage to John. I'll also wait to hear how the next season is laid out before watching it to see from reviews if it's worth watching or if it's the same mangled mess S3 was. With this showrunner at the helm, it likely won't be worth the time. They need someone who is experienced and knows how to do the job if it's going to be worth watching.

[@gems3604]

@@imscanon I agree with you. It's just that I read an excerpt of the author's instagram, not the whole thing, and I got the impression she was 100% on board with all of their changes. And even if she were not on board, I doubt she has much leverage now to say anything that would lead them to course correct. The showrunner has been involved with the previous seasons. There are some things she did well, for example the Featherington family arc and even the courtship of Francesca and John. And then I don't know, she went off in her head and unleashed ... what she did.I think it was a big mistake to change the order of the books. Benedict and Sophie should have been Season 3 and then Polin. But you know what? I think the showrunners are pursuing a direction I don't want to follow. It's getting sordid and that's not what the books are about. But what do I know.This series is reaching people all over the world and is one of the top 10 productions in the Netflix franchise.

[@imscanon]

@@gems3604 What would YOU say if you stood to lose millions of dollars if the series didn't continue? You'd say whatever the hell they told you to...

[@gems3604]

@@imscanon I know my husband would find some way to coerce me into going along with the Big Boys and say: "It's just a book!" She has more than doubled her net worth in the short time she has collaborated with Shondaland. She's worth $10 million now. For me $10 million is a nice chunk of change. I could live comfortably and take care of my family. For me making more millions would not be worth going down some slippery slope with Netflix/Shondaland. I say this as an aspiring novelist thinking right now about the possibility of selling film rights to my book. I know if Netflix would change my book the way they changed Julia Quinn's novels I would fall into a heavy depression. That said I know my family would put a huge amount of pressure on me to keep the money flowing no matter what. I know for Julia Quinn it's not just that she has doubled her net worth. Different doors have opened for her. People are paying attention to her. She is making appearances. She is selling merchandise. Things are popping. That is hard to walk away from. I am sure her book publisher has something to say too. They probably have a bigger stake in the books than she does.

[@Kayqute]

Honestly I'm not gonna continue watching Bridgerton because the are ruining it 😢

[@pettybee3860]

Francesca's storyline came out of NOWHERE, especially since her main storyline was fighting for her love for John and how it's okay to have a quiet love story. They messed up so bad when they threw all of that out the window and now she's seen as emotionally cheating on John with his cousin and that's not how it was in the books. There's no reason to change Francesca's story just to check some woke box because Jess Brownell sees herself in Francesca. It doesn't make us homophobic to just want a story about infertility. In the 1800s, that would not be possible with a woman. We as an audience can tell when it's contrived and forced, especially being used to Hollywood nowadays and it's very easy to spot when season 3 was hot ASS.

[@ncz7]

I agree to all of that. Its starting to fall like what happen in the witcher. Deviating too much from the books will be a disaster.

[@annejusttryintobecreative9934]

I had several problems with this season. The main thing is that Netflix made this because of the popularity of the books. Now it feels like bait and switch. Putting all the PC/ woke (whatever the preferred term of the day is) characters and plotlines in that simply DO NOT EXIST in the books make this show cease being Bridgerton. Write another show if you want all this other stuff. Give us Bridgerton, please. I mean, Queen Charlotte isn't in the books at all, Colin finds out about Lady Whistledown just before the carriage scene, and Eloise doesn't find out about Lady Whistledown until after her own wedding - with no big, long fallout among friends. And just how exactly does Colin being with the prostitutes bring him closer to Penelope? Those scenes were just out of character and seemed to serve no purpose other than flesh on screen. Unnecessary. And they just left so much out with Colin and Penelope. The hand cut scene NEEDED more to make it make sense. They needed to talk more about his writing. And so much time was wasted with the feud wih Eloise. Oh, and how is it that Colin has this home that's been in the family for a very long time just waiting for him and Penelope, but Violet can't find a dowager house to move into? And poor Felicity Featherington ceases to exist. And soooooo much more.

[@isa12rae]

The new showrunner did not do a good job at all. Bad writing, bad pacing, bad editing.

[@J.A.LewisWriter]

The gender swap is not a minor change, though. It's a major change. Michael and Francesca spend a lot of time feeling guilty about their feelings and trying to avoid each other, but it's difficult, since him inheriting the estate kind of forces them to live together. Michaela can't inherit the estate because she's a woman, nothing is forcing her to stick around. She can leave and take her guilt with her. The plot is gone.

[@marusamulej6878]

1. Part 2 was fine, but i also wanted more romantic scenes between Colin and Pen. 2. Benedict's plot was not it for me, but maybe it can be saved. But characted development where? Next season it's his for sure with the mascarede ball forshadowing and all the love talking of his. 3. Francesca's plot was fine and I could see that she adores John. I am not sure, if John's feelings are as deep, but I knew that Michael is coming in the future. So I was so exited when he said let me introduce my cousin. I was so confussed when I saw that they switched the gendres. I hoped that her reaction was the cause of John not telling his cousin that he married her (like wtf haha). I am open to her being lesbian or whatever, but i am not sure how her season would work then. Also her book was one of my favorite ones so i am a bit sad that I won't see that on screen.

[@sameenshahid7457]

I skipped all the scenes featuring Benedict and tilly as well as the ones about the mondrichs

[@posemwen]

The ONLY reason I hate that they changed Micheal into Michaela is because it changes Francesca’s story completely. Her fertility issues and finding new love after the death of her great love were so important. These are issues that are rarely explored. It would have been great to see this story. I agree with changing Eloise to a lesbian live story. So annoying that the show runner is messing everything up.

[@bassgirl6678]

As a fan of the books I gotta say Bridgerton veers off left quite a bit from the books. It’s to the pint where at times it feels like the writers just used the tropes from the book and the character names then just looked up on like google what scenes the fans like and ignore the beats in the story. Season 1 fairly good adaptation, Season 2 why was there an Edwin-Anthony wedding and the second half was kinda like wtf, Season 3 far left field, I fear it’s just gonna get worse and worse. They are taking away aspects of the story or personality aspects of characters that fans adore and fell in love with. I think they could have Francesca and Michaela but they should really really really try and stay as close as possible to the book still to make it work because otherwise it could easily become a completely different story.

[@itsmissalina222]

We hate that Francesca and John had fought over other types of love to be represented in the plot only to confirm that no it still looses to passion literally 1 day after the wedding 😂 and if you don’t wanna tear persons clothes off and if you don’t stumble on your words LIKE IN REAL ROMANTIC NOVEL babies it ain’t true love 😂 ✨waste of time✨

[@cyrilmarasigan7108]

I thought that Benedict is the one who is bisexual but then we got Michael turn into Michaela for Francesca after making us like John the half of season 3 then Fran lusting over Michaela in the EVENING PARTY OF HER WEDDING!?!? The ink wasn't even dry though also Fran's love story is a representation of people going to fertility and remarried people and how we can found love for the second time so why butchered the plot even though they take some liberties from the novel and incorporated new plots in the show why make it so butchered though? They could've just made a completely new show though

[@ginger5872]

Why? He was NEVER " bisexusal " to begin with. Neither was Fran or Eloise. People need to stop forcing their own agendas , kinks, and perversion on others. It makes people literally hate and loathe them.

[@cyrilmarasigan7108]

@@ginger5872 first of all, HE WAS. In the first season, the man that he loves tries to find a wife and wants to settle down, their dialogue inspired 2 girls to create a unofficial Bridgerton musical second his book literally gave him a wife and that is Sophie and their love isn't forced by his mother Violet to straighten him, he married Sophie because he love her same with what his other siblings did which is marry the love of their life so what did I misunderstood? He is bisexual it's just erased now for making way to his story arc

[@safy907]

Why does in every single show today, there must be a gay main couple? Sometimes it makes sense, but others it's just forced, like in the case of Francesca. I big part of her story was dealing with infertility, it would've been interesting. I don't see her solving that with Michaela. Unless Michaela is trans.

[@itsmissalina222]

Also Francesca’s character is just disrespected because they show her as an inconsistent girl who cannot understand her feelings 🙄 in the books she was married to John for 2 years and SHE WAS MORNING HIM FOR 4!!!! John is disrespected. And Michael is disrespected because for 6 years his whole being was concentrating on loyalty to his love and respect for his brother. And here Francesca seemed to fall first 🙄 for whyyyyyyy!? we loved John in the show! We love Michael in the book! Make them have their love stories without adding cheating two bloody minutes after the wedding! I loved autistic and calm character of Francesca but if she will be so obvious with Michaela while John will be alive she will become unlikable. Same for Michaela. Imagine if they will kill John right away just for the lesbian representation 😖😖😖 THEN WHY JOHN WAS EVEN THEIR. John was not even present in the book past chapter 1! If JOHN was JOAN we would enjoy their romance sooooo much. And of course they wouldn’t have kids. And when Joan would die TA DA 🎉 her cOusin makes his way in. And it could’ve started as «I want a man just for kids and I will not love anyone else» but it would’ve changed slowly… anyway ❤️‍🩹💔🫠

[@hollyeve2465]

francesca with michaela makes NO SENSE FOR THAT TIME PERIOD! Homosexuality was not condoned back then. also 2 women couldnt get married back then. and women couldnt inherit property so how could michaela inherit john sterlings property? also francesca struggles with infertility obviously she wouldnt have to worry about that if she was gay cuz ivf and sperm donation wasnt a thing back then. jess brownell just trying to be woke. I was cool with benedict being bi cuz he still will wind up with sophie. BUT LEAVE THE MAIN COUPLES ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@munno4041]

My opinion was that this was supposed to be Pen and Colin's season. They had too many side stories cutting in for no reason. Why is Francescas' story being told while they were parts of the book I was looking forward to for Pen and Colin. As a fan of the books, I was really looking forward to their story. Jess ruined it for me, and Quinns responses made it more obvious to me it was not her choice either.

[@gabrielafernandes6096]

i cannot watch with the blink lights at the background

[@jolie7751]

So that is why i thought, there is something missing here, the magic that the 2 first seasons had and the side story too.SHE did this garbage, this mess of stories, didn't give the main couple the right amount of time, changed the story of Francesca and ruined it so much, ruined the character of Benedict ,alll for whattttttttt? Am am so done, how can a person be so selfish (what about the fans???) the show is not for you is for the people

[@sikigrg7057]

Over all i feel so bad for the writer of the bridgerton book julia like i can't even imagine how she must be feeling after seeing her work getting destroyed by this series god 😔😭

[@loverrlee]

I’m all for queer representation, but I have to say I’m a little disappointed it is Francesca who gets a queer love story and not Benedict or Eloise (at least, not that we know of yet). I think most fans knew Benedict was queer, so luckily that was confirmed with his throuple. But I think most people assumed Eloise would be the character who would get a queer story, because it fits her character more. But I’m personally not outraged about it or anything. I’m holding my judgment until I see it. Happy Pride everyone. 🏳️‍🌈

[@chaeyoungsstrawberryfarm3327]

As someone who hasnt read the books, I live for the inclusivity and doesnt care about the changes. I absolutely get the feeling of a movie/series not sticking with the plot of your favorite book, so it makes me sad for all the book lovers:/

[@vickimiller1669]

The new show runner needs to be fired what a bad job she did we did not need a Michaela we NEED MICHAEL. Stop with always being so WOKE.

[@andreazavala4193]

Why do show runners seems to think we need representation? In that case, I demand a Latino couple 😂 I don’t care AT ALL. In fact, if they were to throw a Latino couple just to represent us. I’d be pissed bc I don’t think a lot of Latinos were around the UK back then. Please stop trying to please the “un represented” we just want a true and engaging love story!

[@AJLovesMC12]

Hiii! Loved your analysis! Am I tripping, or did you used to have a reaction channel? I remember your Euphoria reactions, sooo good!😆🔥

[@ckaydw]

Mad at the fact it was suppose to be about Colin and Penelope and she had so many other things going on. I think Benedict had the bigger part in the second part. Plus he is going to be about him on the fourth season. So why show him so much in the second part season three. I say do a spin off of Colin and Penelope and tell their whole story. They did that about the Queen so do for Colin and Penelope. I waited three years for Colin and Penelope only to be disappointed. Luke and Nichola are so excellent in their parts and deserve to have their story told. Back to when they met.

[@cynealey933]

I’ve read all the books and Francesca’s book is my favorite one. I’m extremely disappointed with the gender swap.😕

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

A) am one of the people who hated lack of Polin B) am ruined they are ruining the romantic side of bendetict that was set up in the previous seasons. And if Paul was introduced earlier, I would not have a big issue with his storyline. Paul felt shoehorned in and Tilly’s dialogue in that one scene was just pandering. C) with Michaela, a) she was supposed to be sophie aka Bendetict’s love interest so that is where my anger and confusion lie. And b), she was introduced too early. Why build up John and Francesca for the whole season just to demolish it in one ten second scene. Jeez. Let them be happy. Also, the heart of it was the trio friendship and the memories Francesca and Michael had of John. We needed that set up first before we see Francesca’s and Michaela’s relationship. And I do feel the infertility storyline is hard to write about in a regency era standpoint considering they did not have the modern entities that we have now. But I just care about the essence is there and considering the essence of Polin’s book was lost in part 2, I do not trust how Jess is going to handle these future seasons. She is only focusing on what she wants instead of focusing on the characters that need to be focused on. I don’t know where to stand with her because every time her interviews are brought up in discourse, she contradicts herself so much. I can’t trust her.

[@ncz7]

Omg same. I find her egotistic as some point. Francesca is really her favorite and she's focused too much on sexuality like gurl this is romance and not euphoria type of themes. She destroyed so much stories.

[@heathercontois4501]

I don't care if Ben is bi, he is canonically a RAKE, R-A-K-E, when he meets Sofie, when he saves Sofie, when he "courts" Sofie and when he insults Sofie; so the bi aspect will never be an issue. They will have to erase Frans whole story and arc by changing Michael to Michaela. right now it is completely gone and Quinn should know better than to do that. Her books are what is selling the show. EDIT: sorry it is also part of Michael's arc that he needs to be male in the show. For the time period and social setting of the story, it's pretty key info.

[@mikeladonnelly4924]

I honestly just don’t want to watch the next season, I was so Underwhelmed this season

[@theCommentDevil]

Bridgerturd 😢

[@LizGreyLove]

I was excited to see some neurodivergent characters and representation of infertility. I understand we want to represent everything but why not do that w Benedict and Eloise like you said and let Francesca represent being on the spectrum and having fertility issues AND a representation is dealing w a loss of a spouse.

[@millsenberry]

i don't understand why they didn't give violet a female love interest. especially as violet didn't have a second love in the book series, would have been the perfect opportunity

[@sol848]

I can not comprehend the decision with francesca. Not from the lgbtq angle (although I do belive Eloise is better suited to a Sapphic romance). But why would you introduce micheal/MICHAELA NOW? Seriously she just gave her mother that speech about how her love for John is just as valid and important as what violet describes. Having that mirror undercuts all of that and makes it clear that John is just a place holder.

[@Multifandom04]

My ranking: S2,S1,QC,S3

[@maribelestrada9063]

Bridgerton season one was great queen charlotte was beautiful season 2 was meh compare to the other 2 and this season (3) we could of done without

[@robinperkins6305]

1 st of all I don’t like how pen was revealed as lady whistledown and then she got blackmailed, oh hell no! 2nd there wasn’t enough screen time with Pen and Colin in the 2nd part. 3rd why did they switch with the gender swap? With francisca story…🤔 4th I didn’t like how Eloise character this season and then she was hang with Cowper out of all ppl. Since they were switching things around and shit, Do you know what would’ve been cool if at the end of season two when Eloise realized that pen was ladywhistle down, she could of join pen and both of them could of been writing ✍️ the gossip. That would have been fucking coo right there…

[@itsmissalina222]

I am all for gay couples in the tv show BUT introduce new characters! Like I believe they did with Paul and Benedict. Or do this with characters that are not otherwise involved like Cressida. Her and Eloise would be cute And New. As i know just few fans want her with Crane. Why butcher the character that EVERYONE who read the books loved? Also it’s just disappointing that it seems that the lesbian show runner chose to turn into a woman the men who was described as literally the hottest and the most handsome MAN out of all those poor London women have seen. Even Violet at one point flirted with him!

[@ddebarre7192]

My concern with the Benedict subplot that they chose that over Penelope/Colin is that they picked that for the romping sex because of the "fat shamers" of the world. I too have not read the books. I do read historical romance however and know that usually sex is a huge part of the love story. I did enjoy how passionate yet gentle their story was portrayed, but if it was different in the book and they threw in Benedict so the tv viewers could get the sex scenes, then yeah, that would p*ss me off. If any readers of the series could let me know if they purposefully changed the main characters dynamic, I'd appreciate that.

[@ruthrivera6199]

I agree I felt like their story was to short. Loved Luke and Nicola in their scenes but felt cheated once I finished season 3. Wasn’t to happy with other plots.