Bridging Spirituality and Cognition | Transcendent Naturalism #13 with Matt Segall

In Episode 13 of the "Transcendent Naturalism" series, John Vervaeke, Gregg Henriques, and guest Matt Segall engage in a deep exploration of the intersection between spirituality and cognitive science. They delve into how concepts like etheric imagination and process philosophy, particularly in the works of Schelling and Whitehead, can broaden our understanding of naturalism. The dialogue critically examines the constraints of traditional naturalism, highlighting the significance of imagination within scientific frameworks, and discussing the ongoing evolution of human perception and cognition. The episode bridges scientific inquiry with profound existential questions, offering enriched perspectives on the interplay between science, philosophy, and spirituality.
Matthew T. Segall, Ph.D., is a renowned philosopher specializing in Alfred North Whitehead's process philosophy. He earned his doctorate from the California Institute of Integral Studies in 2016, with a focus on post-Kantian process philosophy. His academic work emphasizes the integration of science, spirituality, and ecology, contributing significantly to contemporary philosophical thought​.
Resources and References
Gregg Henriques:
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Facebook: / gregg.henriques
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Matt Segall
Website: footnotes2plato.com/about-me/
Patreon: / footnotes2plato
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Facebook: / matthew.david.segall
John Vervaeke
Website: johnvervaeke.com/
Patreon: / johnvervaeke
Facebook: / vervaekejohn
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KZbin: / @johnvervaeke
Resources and References
The Vervaeke Foundation: vervaekefoundation.org/
John Vervaeke KZbin
Is Free Will an Illusion? Navigating Kantian Thought with Dr. Vervaeke & Matt Segall: • Is Free Will an Illusi...
Dynamics of Modern Paradigm Shifts with Jordan Hall: • Dynamics of Modern Par...
Books, Articles, and Publications
Crossing the Threshold: Etheric Imagination in the Post-Kantian Process Philosophy of Schelling and Whitehead - Matthew David Segall: www.amazon.com/Crossing-Thres...
Process-Relational Philosophy: An Introduction to Alfred North Whitehead - C. Robert Mesle: www.amazon.com/Process-Relati...
How the Body Shapes the Mind - Shaun Gallagher: www.amazon.com/Body-Shapes-Mi...
Modes of Thought - Alfred North Whitehead
Distributed Cognition and the Experience of Presence in the Mars Exploration Rover Mission - Dan Chiappe, John Vervaeke: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34234...
The Enactment of Shared Agency in Teams Exploring Mars Through Rovers - Dan Chiappe, John Vervaeke: philpapers.org/rec/CHITEO-23
The Experience of Presence in the Mars Exploration Rover Mission - Dan Chiappe, John Vervaeke: direct.mit.edu/pvar/article-a...
Quotes
"Bringing in the complexity sciences and emergence in a contemporary context is exciting." - Matt Segall
"Transcendent naturalism is trying to incorporate elements traditionally considered supernatural." - Matt Segall
"There's a needle to be threaded in understanding new age movements." - Matt Segall
"The imaginal is crucial for understanding how we connect with the world." - John Vervaeke
"Language plays a key role in connecting different perspectives." - John Vervaeke
Chapters with Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction of Guest and Topic
[00:01:32] Discussion on Etheric Imagination and Process Philosophy
[00:04:48] Exploring the Limitations of Traditional Naturalism
[00:14:35] The Role of Imagination in Scientific Contexts
[00:20:05] The Evolving Nature of Human Perception and Cognition
[00:25:27] Exploring the Concept of 'One World' in Naturalism
[00:43:33] The Integration of Different Forms of Knowing
[00:54:55] Concluding Thoughts and Perspectives

[@mills8102]

That point about an internal religious pluralism I think is something very core to what is happening right now and will require almost superhuman finesse.

[@badreddine.elfejer]

Yes !

[@KingNigelthegreat]

You're Satan. I amS and dogfood.. superhuman finesse. What like you've all done so far which is default to Satan and Ai and get surprised you're not all-knowing and I know more than you and Satan and all your ideas combined. So by all means keep thinking. You and that parasite in your mind. Other you. U u. Meme

[@KingNigelthegreat]

Superconductor. Yea that's me. Frontlines all my work. Transformer. Virgin. One look you got to die. Xx. Yes. Keep my wife's name out your mouth and you didnt

[@KingNigelthegreat]

I replaced you with math so you could never be the answer. You'd default to math and keep defaulting the more you learned how to read. It. 1. 😂

[@KingNigelthegreat]

You got aborted second trimester. Look it up

[@devilinlee]

Matt, I’ve followed you for 14 years or so. It is so fun to watch you on this stage with others I respect and admire! Keep up the good work, you are so deserving!

[@benjaminjoshua]

I've been following Matt since the early days of KZbin and Stickam and am proud to see him receiving attention for his ideas!

[@colorfulbookmark]

I have been thinking that Dr.Vervaeke and his fellows are great people, spirituality and cognitive science are what we are learning from life, and process and philosophy are existing in this way, although someone said it is "desire of knowledge", it is why people have to walk longer distance in their journey.

[@DavidRooneyKnowledgeAndWisdom]

I like Matt’s call to do something to move epistemology forward relative to concerns that transcendent naturalism raises. The path I have thought about is shifting from epistemology to what might be called phronesiology, that is, developing a practical wisdom informed approach to creating knowledge (and practice). An assumption that you could build into phronesiology is that it subsumes Sophia into its underlying perspective. It could hold some promise for a reformed social science.

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[@johnvervaeke]

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[@leonstenutz6003]

Imagination; Imaginal; Knowing; Precognitive Knowledge; 40:15 Traditional Naturalism; Transcendent Naturalism; 41:30 Romanticism; Imagination & Holiness; Art, Science, Poetry, Nature; 42:00 Imagination as an Organ of Perception; Phenomenology of Religion (James); ... John Vervaeke; Greg Henriques; Matt Segall; CIIS; Consciousness;

[@chyfields]

Either we are in a virtual reality, that creates the sensation of a physical reality or we are in a material, physical reality; both would have evolved organically - naturally - one by design, the other by a miracle of multiple coincidences.

[@chyfields]

One path is lovingly loaded with design and purpose, the other path is meaningless.

[@Sampsonoff]

Why isn’t Matt on the thumbnail picture? You shouldn’t skip him, he’s the most handsome of you three ;) 😂

[@notmyrealpseudonym6702]

While i agree with the pluralism argument, for my self understanding, what about the costs/risks of those that are monofundamentalists around pluralists? When an oppositional mindset (the utility and value of left and right or insert religion and insert other religion) meets an antagonistic mindset (wrong and right or insert religion and everyother is heretical). Is it possibly necessary to consider it at a more process level of integration (plural) and non-integration (mono) or differentiation and encapsulation? Would naturalistic transcendence be able to be a population feature and "bind" the differences of the individual in a manner that opposes monotheism, regardless of if seen as antagonsitic by the monotheism? I hope that makes sense.

[@notmyrealpseudonym6702]

I suspect there is a strength in the concretisation of a deity that makes it feel real/substantial that I am unsure naturalistic transcendence can provide ... Without falling into the trap of guru/person-ism or sacrament/book-ism

[@Richard_Paradise]

[@oliverjamito9902]

Students what is the difference unseen nor seen? Many talking to unseen yet if Who comes? Who ye are talking too? Liken unto a little Child "i" asking all Fathers shared HIS AM! What is dizziness nor fainting. Remember these comes from thee all! Fear to whom? All the shared I AM will say instead Fear Him. Who can take thy lives shared and can take thy souls. What is kill? Replace "take"! What is conversation without another? How's thy conversations given just for thee?

[@oliverjamito9902]

A little Child "i" will say. After....thy body and can...thy soul. Who can do such? Nor why share a gift of life? For the OLIVER JAMITO BORN DECEMBER 29 1976 SIGNITURE. The New Day. Through HIM, by HIM, and for HIM. Innocents little ones surrounding about from here. Yes, to remind and comes with comfort unto all the old minds. Without force! If ye Will. My beautiful what hurts thee? From the past can learn. Ye provided space, room, and came with time given and took a HOLY blood stains to cover all existing in front of the "i" AM. All set UNDERFOOT in front of the OLIVER JAMITO BORN DECEMBER 29 1976 SIGNITURE. The "i" AM. What is limit? Limit will say remember WHO IS SITTING IN THE MIDST. Even scientists can't exist...but to bring forth clarity, coherence, adequacy, evidence, and witnesses together! Remember what is conversations? Besides one another. Remember thy shared "i" AM. How else can ye all even to be given...to conversations unto one another. 1ST. Desired all thy lives.

[@christiansmith-of7dt]

What about a home attached to a grocery store

[@keysemerson3771]

Sorry Matt, but I think real religion(a sense of the divine and love for our fellow human beings) gets lost when ritual plays a major role.

[@KingNigelthegreat]

The toilet is a speciesm and you spokeperson of toilet and it and superorganism with teal swan and link up match up slave master's same dead mom. Priceless.

[@KingNigelthegreat]

Ive had the number 1 spot in advertisement too. I still do. when I give you the second spot its only as a joke but you used to be there. b east

[@KingNigelthegreat]

thanks for helping yourself to me and my life thru my house walls like an invader. no problem bro. karma up. no angels. equality. artist

[@KingNigelthegreat]

Im only into orphans. Babylon, herod and apocalypse-dalai lama. Chinese soccer

[@KingNigelthegreat]

xx 2 week fast periodt

[@KingNigelthegreat]

the future was wormwooded and the past exodus 1 over a singularity. the pharaoh cant drink more blood than me. i always knew that .

[@KingNigelthegreat]

i would make the antimatter version of your lower self with your ransom God has and higher self. im too good at this unlinear transformer stuff is Y

[@rsandy4077]

I don’t think that inter faith dialogues will make religion relevant again. Why so? To whom? My religion became relevant by preaching it and spiritual persuasion of its truth that changed lives for good.

[@KingNigelthegreat]

I poured your blood out on the GROUND. X lol you finally found the ground space boy ll

[@KingNigelthegreat]

washed away your sins kids and everything in a flood . a sweep /.

[@KingNigelthegreat]

i will take over your word you will not take over mine.

[@KingNigelthegreat]

Deteriorate in the mental consciousness cognition hole. Your abyss. Melt. You must be new to me. You and your invisible enemy. You. Injected with u u. 4 the brand. Mark.

[@KingNigelthegreat]

Gain of function over activating

[@KingNigelthegreat]

it kept turning on me out there. what the clock? X. PRISON FOR U LETS GO SATAN AND COMPANY. THE WHOLE WORLD> BYE . SHUT OUT

[@KingNigelthegreat]

your god made the universe something or other palce in three weeks xxx and saw that it was all fucked up. i cured his blindness.,

[@KingNigelthegreat]

your only option was to rob me and find out death lol

[@KingNigelthegreat]

Al Hussein up. east to the west to the

[@KingNigelthegreat]

Taking a neutral and nothing into the bank is worse than taking a loaded gun and weapon into the bank. Just ask Socrates all about nothing. Oh thats right. Portals to purgatory. So funny

[@KingNigelthegreat]

Double dealer. Double crosser. But i need more apples. Its dead. Brains. All gone. Buried under a tree it. Thats why it ate your brain 😂 Hermes

[@KingNigelthegreat]

This is a weird book. I wish i could close it now and be like Daniel. After all i played it so far like im greater than moses to look death in the face near a burning bush is it? And in that day it says we will look for death and death will escape us. Like breath itself. Cut off the Bible to your oxygen supply n brain. Why would i want to see that and find death? I dunno but i better hurry. Tiktok stitches lol. Strange book. -Eric Wrinstein

[@KingNigelthegreat]

I treated you with you early. you didnt make it. I did though. how?: by flushing garbage

[@KingNigelthegreat]

You would never get to your higher self and I would confesss you all out backwards before you even woke up to prediction or self fulfilling prophecy aka rob me

[@KingNigelthegreat]

so why does God allow evil to exist? he doesnt. and if you think he does thats Y. vyou shouldmnt think . periodt

[@KingNigelthegreat]

look what you did to your kids. aka audience with hollywood and spychology the beast . head like a hole. deluge. consciousness. no volume

[@KingNigelthegreat]

I defy imperfect matter and all sick jokes and philosophy. the what is "life" the scribe and his stupid pen impaled on divine instrument. science planning vs God's planning. no match

[@KingNigelthegreat]

you even died in bilingual. second coming of missed it multilingual. lo ok and you will find.

[@KingNigelthegreat]

you aint transcending death and youre gonna try and transcend holy spirit and God. whatever you can in your ignorance and castedf to outer darkness over a wedding band

[@KingNigelthegreat]

your IQ was so high too mine was so lo. you gonna be wiser than solomon. DARK BRANDON RISING

[@KingNigelthegreat]

lemm peak your interest. no thanks. bYe

[@KingNigelthegreat]

thats racist and newton gravity owes reparations not me

[@SteveShine]

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