Brief Oliver 2255 History

[@66Oliver]

Your wealth of knowledge never ceases to amaze me. Keep Makin em! Now project wise, I think my junker 1950 is gonna take a while longer, no competition though, lol.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Probably stuck or broken rings. Detroit’s are famous for that.

[@66Oliver]

Oliver66FarmBoy I haven’t cracked her open to see yet, but hoping neither since it spins when being pulled in gear, but it may still have them. Considering it’s missing the blower rotors, and many other pieces, it’s a project for later. Edit: Wouldn’t ya know it, I sold it, lol.

[@tonyveroude6952]

One of my favourite Olivers! Here in Ontario more red 2255's. Early 80s I spent alot of time in my neighbors 2-180 mfwd. loved it. He had a 2255 as well which I used to pull wagons to the mill. Did'nt spend much time in it but every time was a privilidge. I'm an IH guy but when it comes to V8 power I'll take the Cat power, I had a Massey 1155 for a short time and love V8 power and sound.Thx for that Ethan, keep em coming:)

[@hughperkins707]

Your knowledge of Oliver and White is unbelievable, ,I enjoy learning the history of old tractors.

[@coryisrael2406]

you probably dont give a damn but does someone know a method to log back into an instagram account? I was stupid forgot the password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me

[@allenkhari3760]

@Cory Israel Instablaster =)

[@justinphillips6136]

Love the backstory.. your knowledge of Oliver is beyond your years. Keep it up brother.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Thanks

[@dschefers9700]

Nice video, I remember in the 90’s you could buy a good running 2255 with MFWD for under $8000 from dealers because they where looked at as dinosaurs. Now it will cost more than that to get the old girl running again. Even if its a few years I can wait. I like to watch a good tractor restore.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

You could buy a lot of high dollar tractors for pennies back then. Would have been nice to get started collecting that soon.

[@natejast1971]

Can't wait for your interview with the remaining workers of the Oliver plant. I hope you can get it done. My knowledge is hungry.

[@LordMuck]

Now that's an impressive piece of kit. Really nice to now know a bit more about them.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

They were a horse that’s for sure.

[@slickdoglong3669]

Great job brother God love ya need get cab back on my 2255 4wd been back tracking 2 much tis the season hope 2 shake your hand someday greetings from Ohio farm lands miami County ❤

[@stevenfournier8702]

Glad to see you back on here! I in subbed and just found out your back! Re subbed!

[@Andrew81au1]

Fast becoming a fan of the 2255 tractors.

[@wademills1616]

Oliver’s suck really bad on entry when you have a cab. The door bottom hits the tires and doesn’t open far enough. I have one on my 1855 and I am hopefully buying a 2255 with a cab. I can barely squeeze into it.

[@kennyz6533]

I think I saw that test video here on KZbin a while back. I've never really been around anything but 20 series Deeres and some old farmalls.Those 404s really aren't a good cold starting motor. The synchro 4020 we have with a turbo does fine because the pump is timed ahead but the 4020 power shift without one can be a bear to start when it gets cold. I just look at the way your 1955 starts cold and it amazes me every time. Thanks for taking the time to explain some Oliver history. We're not really Oliver people around here and all we've got is a potato digger and a running gear that was rebadged as Oliver but it's still really cool to learn. It just makes me mad at what happened when white got their hands on Oliver. That cvt would have been in a league of its own. Thanks again.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Yea it’s on here. I have yet to see a good cold starting Deere. They cranked them so damn slow I think the injection pumps would barely build enough pressure to pop off. Even through the 60 series the starters are so damn anemic. My buddy just bought a nice tight 4320. That thing will hardly start if it drops below 50 and it’s a strong runner.

[@NEAFarmKid4010]

Yeah, them Deeres dont start great in the cold, we've got a 4010 with a 404 kit in it, and it dont start good below 45 degrees or so. And we live in the south lol, and it wont start well pretty much all winter. The 1066 International we have isnt much better. I'd love to have a late 1750 Oliver something fierce.

[@brouteforce]

Im So happy you are making videos again. We dont have Olivers in sweden but i love The fact that you know all about them. We also have a brand of tractor that died The Volvo Bm. Ran a 400 buster when i was a young kid and I am hoping to own a 814 before i die

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Volvo made some nice tractors.

[@ash7700]

Nice overview of an important, and handsome, Oliver. Hope you'll get to it some day soon, though I realize you've got plenty of projects, not to mention a time and money budget to contend with. Great channel, and great clip. Thanks for what you're doing!

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Thanks. Hopefully one day.

[@rustybuttrusty9960]

thanks my young friend You have forgotten more about Olivers than Most of us will ever know. You are one of the few who will keep the old alive. I grew up amongst old Oliver people and never was interested . If I could turn back time... Thanks for your return................

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

I wasn’t even there and I want to turn back time.

[@jessefoster2960]

I always just liked tractors in general but you are slowly turning me too an Oliver fan. You could have been a salesman you make me want one keep up the good work

[@billknoderer8202]

That’s gonna make for a really great project. I wish I lived closer. I’d love to donate some time to seeing that thing rightfully restored.

[@jdharvester7719]

Wow,, Another great Oliver history lesson. Thank you !! I made some calls today on the 4-150 dealer. we'll see what we can turn up.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

I already got an answer. There’s a guy from Caledonia that watches my stuff.

[@jdharvester7719]

Sounds good. Have a good one ..

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Thanks anyhow!

[@jdharvester7719]

No Problem. You're one of the good ones. Your folks should be proud.

[@LynnKorte-ve4qf]

The 2255 was nice with the cat in it , thirsty as hell although but it pulled good if you added weights to it when plowing etc ,it had more power than butt weight and thats a problem if your bull gears cannot handle that cat engine.The surface of the gears start flaking on their meshing surfaces.,another problem with them. The cat was a over torqued beast , putting engine torque load on those Oliver designed gears that couldn't handle it for too long ,under extreme loads.Although a nice tractor.. Short on the butt gears although with the Cat..My dad traded in for a 1370 case,,heavy beefy sob

[@aaronkaraszewski2749]

Very good info on the 2255's. It would be nice to have one someday! I understand what you mean about how much work it would take to get it up and running again. Most of our tractors are that way. lol There are 3 of them on a local auction tomorrow all are in nice shape they each have fender tanks and all came from the same farm here in NY.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Weird to have three horses that big in New York of all places.

[@aaronkaraszewski2749]

@@Oliver66FarmBoy yes it is. There is a pretty good following of Oliver's in western and central NY. But 3 of them at one farm is rare, and all 3 in good shape.

[@martinkandell5295]

Does your 2255 have Mechanical Front Wheel Drive assist axle?

[@markhertzog6636]

Awesome. We are putting a 466 in a 4630 right now. Good history.

[@mattprater7184]

I liked your video glad you got to save the old tractor my friend Jared Lawler he has one too he has been in that oliver magazine you showed us you might look him up he farms with oliver tractors too

[@leeoeltjenbruns9929]

The other thing to consider to check is the crankcase depression regulator I as a diesel mechanic I had to take the hose off and put a pipe plug in the intake manifold and put along pieces of coolant stick hose basically cdr. Delete

[@217daryl]

Great history about the 2255, but how did you come across this one that you have now? When did you get it? How far away did you have to go get it? Does it run? Answer these when you can thanks again for coming back to you tube glad to see you here telling the history of the Oliver again!

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

It’s dead. I got it from a friend in Indiana.

[@nellsonstout7001]

My great uncle by marriage’s brother owns the 2255 FWA that sold for 30k from the duroe collection

[@dehavenfamilyfarm]

That is a cool piece of history- thanks for sharing!!!

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Thanks.

[@Fordfarmer9700]

The history is always neat on the old equipment and how it came to be. There was one prototype ford that was a v8 with a 3208 cat known as the 10000. Not much history on it or info as Ford junked the project fairly soon after it was built. I've heard the reason being is it took too much weight to balance the tractor out due to the center of gravity and shorter wheel base vs the 401 inline. 15-20k is a good starting point lol I have that in my 9700 and its still in 4 sections lol thanks for sharing!

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

I have a picture of that on my phone. Didn’t look like it would be to hard to recreate if a guy really wanted to. Just a 9000 rear end with a 3208 strapped to it can’t be that hard with some fab work.

[@Fordfarmer9700]

Oliver66FarmBoy if I had a 9000 with a bad 401 I'd probably entertain the idea. Would definitely be something cool. I guess thats what really paved the way for them making the tw30 with an intercooler and get the most out of the 401

[@garybridger6707]

I believe there is 3 of these selling at a auction on Saturday. McFadden and sons in sharon springs ny.

[@QuinMorse]

I was there for that. They all went for around 12000. Really nice shape

[@danjosephson6910]

In 2015 the Oliver Hart Parr Colectors held their national show at my town of Albert City Ia. The last 2255 was one of the featured exhibits. Don't recall who owned it.

[@jefferytrice9180]

Could you just imagine if Oliver was still producing tractors under there own name and white never got involved. With all there research they had especially with there version of CVT transmission already back in the day.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Would have been something to see.

[@timsnook7924]

Question i found a 2255 near me with a bad motor.... will it handle a 5.9 12v cummins like drive train that.. I got 12v laying from my truck got wreck..

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

If you want to do a Cummins swap find something less valuable than a 2255.

[@nellsonstout7001]

Oliver66FarmBoy I agree. The V8 cat is what makes it unique

[@oliversorensen5178]

Nice information good job

[@farmalloliver58larry38]

My uncle had a 2255. He loved the tractor but had lots of trouble with the Cat 3208 including a cracked crank. CAT had come out with some modifications for the 3208 but his dealer failed to install them.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Cat had a crank machining issue that affected the real early engines. It was quickly corrected in production but the ones that made it out first still had failure issues.

[@chrisrickets9873]

What a badass history lesson that was a great video really enjoyed that. Can’t wait to see her moving under her own power.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Me to. The bank account on the other hand says nope right now.

[@bryanG4020]

The cab on the mf 1150 were noisy, just good for keeping the wind an rain off of you! Dad had one on the farm when I was a kid into my younger teens and I put a lot of hours behind the wheel of that tractor plowing an chopping! Good power an good on fuel but it left an got traded in on a 4wd

[@Ham68229]

I think and correct me if I'm wrong but, it was wise for Oliver/White to go with the Cat engine. I've always been a huge fan of the 2255. Like with any tractor, still had it's issues which, I believe Oliver quickly worked those out. Just imagine where Oliver would be today had White stayed away from them... Would love to have a pair of 2255's, were an awesome tractor back in the day. Weren't the cab options a choice between Hinniker and Diamond? Thank you for this information. As always, great video. Cheers :)

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

It was an Oliver designed and built cab.

[@leorapsonjr7659]

Growing up our neighbor had an old Oliver, I want to say it was a 1955.

[@lynnhavenfarm8514]

I always wanted a 2255 hopefully I can find one before to long thanks for the video I wondered about yours

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Get your wallet out. Lol

[@lynnhavenfarm8514]

I believe it lol but I think it would be worth it

[@bobearl7859]

I think that's the sharpest tractor Oliver ever made

[@Drewsadventures00]

Nice video I like the 2255 and this is hard to keep watching the videos since my old man passed on my birthday he lived the videos and always ask if there a new video from the Oliver kid he enjoyed all your videos and like to see them work

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Sorry for your loss.

[@peanutsmith1462]

History love every min of it cannot wait to see it in the Field

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Thanks

[@roadhogg1418]

Hey Farm Boy. That's cool knowledge. I ran an Minnie G1000 on propane back in the 60's for a while moldboard plowing. She was a horse. I never did like anything propane though. Got to run a 2255 with the 3208 a few evenings chisel plowing maybe in the 80s? Loud? Woom, woom, woom but not all that terrible. Seems like it had a range and transmission gear shifts in it but cant remember for sure. Would that be a fact? Stay healthy.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

It was a 6 speed with the over under like the rest of the 55s.

[@cesmith4566]

$20,000 that's pretty steep with $3.00 corn ! It would be nice to see the old girl run again and you'll do it right!

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Is what it is. Can’t do it half ass.

[@joshmoorefield1913]

Still the most beautiful tractor ever built!

[@ev1558]

I would have loved to have that tractor back in the 80-90's

[@oliverfarmer-dx2qs]

i still love those old oliver no matter if it’s the 50 series or the 55 series but my favorite series would have to be the 55 series because they were so modern for there time

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Still think the 660 with the checkerboard decals was the best looking tractor they ever built though.

[@Nick-tz2vl]

2255s are neat. Myself tho, im a John deere guy through and through and will always love a soundguard cab. 15k to 20k is allot. Is that just mechanical or is that cosmetic too?

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Mechanical, pain, and tires

[@PaulHigginbothamSr]

Looks to me like after the rebuild to get a shiny piece of curved stainless between the exhaust pipe and the oil pan clipped with metal clamps to the exhaust pipe. The air blowing from the fan would need to hit the stainless to carry the heat away. How is the transmission on this tractor?

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

It’s getting a 2-180 exhaust system.

[@caseihfarms3408]

where can i subscribe to that magazine or find them?

[@caseihfarms3408]

@@SchnelleKat thanks

[@mikeschwandt6050]

Very interesting, thanks for the history.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Thanks.

[@michiganfarming1955]

Thanks for another great video buddy. I’m surprised white didn’t destroy the records of the prototype 2255. Still wonder where Oliver could be today.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Probably would have gave Deere a run for their money.

[@sheilamclaughlin963]

They produced them for a while, I have seen several

[@Fieldman12]

That tractor sure is a beast. Cant wait to see it someday running again. Any idea how the White tractors became silver colored? I like the color but wondered if there was a story to it.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Would be a better question for Chris.

[@wysurvivor]

Other than the Exhaust manifold what else do you need to get that thing running.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Won’t know till I tear it down.

[@wysurvivor]

@@Oliver66FarmBoy there's a lot of Oliver tractors sitting our here in the west Wyoming. When you get started I'd be happy to put you in contact with some guys

[@Adam-qe9br]

Does anyone know anything about the 2255 that was painted in the White paint scheme? I've seen pictures and it was tough looking.

[@caseihfarms3408]

i thought you had a motor for that thing already?

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

I do

[@caseihfarms3408]

@@Oliver66FarmBoy wheres the 15k--20k coming in then?

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Rebuild the hydraulics, rebuild the three speed, fix the tin, go through the cab, all new seals and gaskets, exhaust system, anything that could be broken that I don’t know about yet then paint and 6 new tires. You don’t just take a tractor that’s sat outside for almost 30 years drop a new engine in it and see it.

[@caseihfarms3408]

@@Oliver66FarmBoy ahh. and just as well rebuild the rear axles as well and the transmission. forgot about tires too

[@pistonringfarms8107]

If i wasnt a die hard john deere guy i would be a oliver guy but i would never be a red paint guy unless it was a massey. I bet if oliver was still in business oliver and john deere would easily be neck and neck and there would be no newholland or case

[@eastpantherbenz]

We've had an 1850, 2-105 and 2-135. What's the story behind using the Perkins and Hercules engines? It's been awesome to have you back on here!

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

White owned Hercules. Don’t know how they got hooked up with perkins.

[@eastpantherbenz]

@@Oliver66FarmBoy I found it odd the Perkins was in the 1850 then went away while the 1855 was out and came back again in the 2-85 and 105.

[@435now]

Quick question, would those tine bars off that 8 row work on your 540? I remember you saying something about not having to work ground in front of it with those tine bars on

[@ZYoung-xv9dn]

It is hard to beat a soundgaurd cab especially for their time and the cab air works and still does

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

They were good at that time but once everybody got caught up they were pretty quickly outclassed by 1980 or so in my opinion.

[@ZYoung-xv9dn]

@@Oliver66FarmBoy Yes I will not disagree with that one bit, by the time they changed from the soundgaurd in the 90s they was extremely dated compared to everyone else.

[@Masseydriver]

Thanks for the background on these tractors, did they make these in 4 wd also?

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Yep

[@larjomack8576]

Interesting video. In a perfect world will you restore it as an open station model with fuel tank fenders or as it is now with cab?

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Cab tractor.

[@martymurphy7477]

cool video

[@jimbreedlove1342]

Great video

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Thanks

[@savannahbrock372]

when are you going to cab swap the white 4x4

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

It’s on the list

[@kolewiebensohn]

You forgot about the Case 1370 to go against a 2255, shame they never ran them side by side for comparison.

[@rustyrelicsfarm2406]

What were the results?

[@7viewerlogic670]

Great info!

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Thanks

[@ghenry85]

Thanks for the history lesson. Would love to see the videos of the repairs on that tractor, and see her work. Do the 2255 have a similar drive train to the 2-150s?

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

2-150 is just a G-1355 Moline.

[@ghenry85]

@@Oliver66FarmBoy I had to look that tractor up, not familiar with the Minnie moes. Seems like the G1355 was an 2255 from the bell housing back. Maybe I just made myself a heretic saying that though.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

The G955 and G1355 Molina’s were both Moline motors strapped to Oliver rear ends.

[@natejast1971]

What is one dream Oliver tractor that you wish you could own?

[@michael7423]

God forbid you ever cut yourself but I bet your blood runs Oliver Green, you should be president of the Oliver historical society! I really enjoyed this vlog. Thank you again Ethan!!!

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Thanks

[@codymulford6076]

I think there's a video on youtube of that cause that sounds so familiar

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

There is.

[@farmboy5442]

It looks like that it going to be a big project but in the end it it will look good can't to see it back in the field when it's all done

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Me either

[@Samschannel-xi2ev]

If this is “brief” I would hate to see the extended cut version.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

I’m sorry you found it to long.

[@Samschannel-xi2ev]

Oliver66FarmBoy very good content thank you for posting I am glad you are back on KZbin

[@kevinroman9039]

What's the deal with cockshutt 2255s. I have read that they never made any but then also read that they made a few.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Now theres a can of worms that guys a lot smarter than me are still arguing over.

[@timminch8898]

Great video. Are you going to leave the cab on or make it an open station?

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Leave the cab.

[@mrbill4187]

I believe the Allis Acousta cab in the 7030 and 50's were quieter than the deere. I'd rather sit in a soundguard all day though if I had my choice. Lol The red vs green always confused me because I always figured red weren't even third best by the time ih went under. I never hated IH or deere equipment just the people. Lol

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

I’ve sat in an acusta cab on a 7040 I think it was. Them monster ass cab pillars made for blind spot city. Lol

[@mrbill4187]

@@Oliver66FarmBoyYup, I got a 7040. Not sure what they were thinking. Lol The 80 series cabs were nice.

[@mcleanfarmsryan3897]

I wish I could go back to the seventies when these big hoss were the best in farm machinery which they still are

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

You and me both

[@mcleanfarmsryan3897]

Oliver66FarmBoy remember if you build a time machine give me a shout first k

[@mikevandyck8291]

This is the link to the USAC testing video, Enjoy!

[@rustyrelicsfarm2406]

Your 140 Grain Cart will look like a toy on the 2255. You are the Oliver Scholar and Chris Losey is Oliver University.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Not going to pull the cart with it.

[@thepubliceye]

I like the 1979 WHITE MODEL 4-175 FIELD BOSS

[@samtalley791]

I hate to say it but I think I would have had to buy a JD new back then. The 30 series was much more "refined" then compared to Oliver or MF in my opinion. But coolness factor 2255 wins everytime with a 1155 in close second.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Deere arguably had a better cab but that’s about it. Only a 16 speed in the quad range compared to 18 with the over under. Oliver had a better three point and draft control, ran regular pioneer hydraulic couplings so you didn’t need Deere’s leaky bastard fittings. Oliver was overall heavier on their base weight. Was getting better fuel economy. Changeover on PTO speeds was a lot nicer. Drawbar was bigger. And 10 times easier to work on by far. And an Oliver will out cold start a Deere hands down any day of the week.

[@karldensch4213]

4630 is way better tractor and a 6030 well will out work both by a long shot deeres hydraulic pump is way better and the brakes and cab are way better. We bought a 1950 t new it was not the best but run good and pulled good the bought a new 4630 sound gard cab been Deere ever since.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Ha, you’re funny.

[@samtalley791]

Karl Densch there’s a big difference in a 1950T and a 4630.... age, horsepower class when new... of course a 4630 was better then on pulling your comparing apples to concrete...

[@karldensch4213]

@@samtalley791 I am not comparing a 4630 or the 6030 to a 1950 t i am comparing them to a 2255 .

[@joelwindsor525]

Found a nice 2255 in Wooster Ohio at Scott farm equipment for $5500 wish I had the cash

[@Murphyslawfarm]

G'day mate

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Hey murphy

[@minnesotaoliveranddeere5919]

Ever thought about just going crazy and put a Detroit in it?

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Why on earth would you ruin a 2255 like that.

[@minnesotaoliveranddeere5919]

@@Oliver66FarmBoy well there is a guy that put one in a 2255 and people would just talk about it and out pulled everyone one. But has since sold it

[@kevinmcphail1329]

I have that issue,...in a stack.....lol

[@Andriod846]

You could easily make that a 200horsepower tractor.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Not really. You’ll blow the rear end out of it.

[@bobrhonda4375]

Wonder why they didnt test An AC? We have orange blood but love some REAL green and grey!

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

I don’t know. Figured they should have had AC and Ford both in there.

[@Daniel-ul8py]

For been a red guy the IH 1468 was one of the worst tractor international made. They just could not make a V-8 powered tractor.

[@Fieldman12]

When I was a kid we had Ford, Deere, IH, Case, MF, Allis Chalmers, Versatile, Steiger, and White still being made. I wish I could have seen Oliver and MM being made also. I was born in 76 so by then MM was done and Oliver was coming to an end. I miss the days of all different colors. I am not loyal to just one color but that has a lot to do with being around a lot of different brands as a child. They all had there good and not so good ideas.

[@gerdesoto262]

That tractor needs paint

[@TomBoillat]

if they would have picked the 8.3 cummins it would have been a true rockstar

[@slickdoglong3669]

Mine has 3208 and big estate steps with 2 gallon extra lube finder mounted out there it is all oliver staying ahead of the curve this one might be close 2 the last 1