BrightDrop EV600 -- EXCLUSIVE first look at GM's electric van

[@saxachewon8062]

As a former courier, you did an excellent job describing the features of this vehicle that would be relevant to the people who will actually drive this. Refreshing to say the least.

[@loneric550]

I wouldn’t mind turning this into an RV Van that’ll be nice!

[@donotinvite]

nice

[@j.r.walden9937]

I'm definitely gonna convert one of these bad boys.

[@MrJFoxProductions]

You read my mind👍🏾

[@nickgermanic8505]

With only 250 miles autonomy then wait hours to charge the batteries again?

[@alexba1ley]

@@nickgermanic8505 250 miles range sounds like a lot to me. Do you know of any electric cargo vans with greater range? I'd love to check them out if so.

[@antster7]

this would make a great sprinter alternative for DIY RV build if it has AWD

[@slee2586]

it has AWD.

[@ashton9699]

2:50

[@alphawolfadventures1470]

I believe all electric vehicles do

[@fitnesswithsteve]

The ups version will look the same but it will have headlights from a 2002 oldsmobile alero.

[@gyneve]

😂

[@PaulHo]

This could be the coolest food truck.

[@dontudude]

Can individuals buy these?

[@Tommaso77777]

Looks like one of the best in class!

[@osacagatos4179]

This is Good for RV

[@elizabethcherry920]

I can see one of these vans turned into a RV, nice rig

[@roguedogx]

0:06 let me stop you right there. You just threw a box, that's an instantly fireable offense at FedEx. So, no you wouldn't. Or you would for the 6 seconds you are employed. I know because I use to work there. Good introduction though.

[@creedg6075]

Well you did a great job explaining his joke...

[@kourtneygriffin7013]

Did you get fired for throwing a package? Lol! I kid. I kid.

[@roguedogx]

@@kourtneygriffin7013 I did get fired, but not for that. Another coworker was fired for doing that.

[@Cal56347]

There is no way that thing sells for 49k. Try 65k or 70k.

[@j.r.walden9937]

That's what I thought too. But as of today (6months later), you can buys Ford's electric van for under 50k.

[@brandonsaunders3871]

EVCAMPER wet DREAM!

[@ejd1984]

(Like Ford has done with the range estimates of the Lighting) - The 250mi range is most likely loaded with 1,100lbs.

[@bahamatodd]

The range is rated at 50% payload, which is similar to what Ford did.

[@rand49er]

Electrifying delivery vans is a perfect application. They have frequent stops and slower average speeds. Too many resources are dedicated to maintenance of ICE-powered vehicles which can now simply concentrate on a much less complex drivetrain. Once the transition to these vehicles is accomplished, we'll wonder why it wasn't done before.

[@12vLife]

It's got great curb appeal... But this big will likely have curb peel too. I wonder if the EV410 fits in a regular parking spaces and if real world range could be much better. Price, Range and Charge options are not going to tempt me yet, but I'm watching carefully.

[@Rhaman68]

“Fit in a regular parking space?” It’s a commercial delivery truck to replace gasoline powered FeEx step vans, similar in size.

[@12vLife]

@@Rhaman68 Yeah I know, but the EV410 is much smaller and talking about some consumer vans that are coming.

[@DougGrinbergs]

Wondering why GM didn't bid on USPS NGDV project with a custom version of this. DeJoy's USPS wants to buy 15 MPG gas trucks from Oshkosh Defense. (:-(

[@thebigdoghimself]

Looks like it would make a pretty sweet class B rv.

[@cojaro87]

I would argue that range would be reduced due to added weight, so you'd have to stop and charge more often, but when you're in a house-on-wheels, is that really so bad? :)

[@americanrambler4972]

Van looks good. But this one is using leaf springs and a drop beam rear axle like the Ram Promaster. It has poor running ground clearance. And with a base empty weight of 8,000 pounds and only a 2,000 pound cargo capacity for its size, its a heavy brick. The one in the video looks to only be front wheel drive, not all wheel drive. If and when this van comes to market, my guess it’s starting price is probably going to be $70,000 to $75,000. An out the door price is probably going to be $90,000 to $120,000 per unit.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Craig, Let' hope GM's battery issues are in the past by the time these hit the market.

[@ma7mgte]

Well, it was LG Chems' issue to solve, which also affected Hyundai...

[@four-plexforever1300]

This would be great for contractors too. If they could put a ramp on the back to large equipment like lawn mowers and snowblowers, That would be great! Maybe I could put a 4 wheeler in it to go somewhere instead of driving a gas guzzling truck. Or it could be used as a moving van 250 miles most people would only have to charge it once or twice at most. I would love to be able to get one of these. To bad the payments would be $2,500 a month after taxes, insurance, & registration. How are they going to do an emissions check for the states that require it? I'll buy a used one once it hits the $10k mark. I guess I'll have to wait a few years...

[@mike4769]

The rv market is next

[@foreverendeavors6210]

Very interested

[@Rhaman68]

I wonder why this company is labeled as GM as it’s based in Ontario, CA as a separate business.

[@tigwelders-1076]

Is there any way this will make its way to private parties?

[@netposerx]

Here for all the "turn it into an RV" comments. haha

[@theonlyalexoliveira]

Pricing was nearly double what he guessed

[@Travisb238]

Arrival Van looks much better and has 10,000 UPS orders. Only 500 from FedEx? We'll see how that goes.

[@theflew]

Good luck to UPS and Arrival. I think you'll see a lot more Bright drop vehicles on the road. GM will scale a lot quicker than Arrival can.

[@vicenteramirezgarcia]

@@theflew arrival will cover most of Europe. There is market for every region.

[@nicholaslandolina]

Delivery vehicle review... ghost town

[@marks6663]

Looks like a bread truck. What about us contractors? What do we get?

[@iconicspot6787]

That small steering wheel. The turning radius is going to be so bad.

[@sphan6949]

Van life

[@southhillfarm2795]

The range just doesn’t cut it. Need at least 600 km’s for range.

[@theflew]

These are last mile vehicles. Given they are mostly in business districts and residual areas their range is more than enough. You can easily drive an EV all day if your in averaging 25 mph.

[@GrymeJr]

I put 15 miles on my truck daily, this is way more than enough, add in our new solar roof , and that's a ton of savings, maybe it'll get raise 🤪

[@thecountywilliams5098]

Add yearly road taxes ( about 50% of ICE fuel cost ) . Roads don't maintain themselves, so you the taxpayer will.

[@Spudmechanic]

I mean, we already do just at the pump instead of up front. So just add it into the registration cost of an ev

[@Kirikaahurpiita]

Dude needs a couple sandwiches

[@googlreviews7813]

Only downside is that it's a GM

[@davefroman4700]

Be interesting to see if GM can compete with the BYD trucks and vans. But knowing that BYD is now the third largest battery manufacturer in the world? I highly doubt GM can scale its production fast enough. Especially since they have done nothing to secure their own material supply chains and rely solely on third party suppliers.

[@CSHarvey]

1:25 Laughing at another "DC fast charging optional" GM EV.

[@theflew]

Why would you fast charge these in general? They start with a full charge, they do their routes for the day, you plug it in for tomorrow. Before they leave the package facility they know how far it's going to travel that day.

[@ashton9699]

Only 120kW DCFC is a bit weak...

[@theflew]

Given the duty cycle for these types of vehicles, it's perfect. They go back to the depot and sit all night.

[@protovack]

in the first shot of the van driving, did anyone else notice the distinct sound of a gas engine, and a shift point that was clearly audible?

[@stangmatt66]

2:43 "supports 125 kW DC fast charging" yet doesn't appear to have a CCS DC charging port

[@TheVoice010]

Yet another tool to feed the great Machine called Capitalism....

[@waterheaterservices]

Our Great Helmsman, Chairman Bei Jing Biden, and The Party, are doing a glorious revolutionary job of rescuing us from counter revolutionary prosperity.

[@Mapavia89]

That’s it? Save $7000 year? What’s the point?

[@Mew-ip3iy]

The point is you multiply it by 100 or 1000 vans

[@OneManOnFire]

You also forgot down time vs up time. With a EV you'll have more up time on the road use compared to a regular van that needs maintenance

[@rodhorne3281]

So $7k a year is nothing to you? If you keep the vehicle for 10 years, you will have saved enough to buy a brand new one again with money left over. That is like getting a free vehicle. In addition, if you listened to the video, these are fleet vehicles, with the first 500 going to FedEx. That means FedEx will be saving $3.5 million per year just on these 500.

[@ashton9699]

A fleet. And that you earn more money during the lifespan because there's much less downtime for maintenance.

[@theflew]

Companies like UPS, FedEx will run these vehicles easily for over a decade. So if you're saving $7k per vehicle per year for a fleet of 100 vehicles that's $700k a year in savings. That's a big deal for package delivery services where margins matter.