Bring Back the Land Yacht!

[@TheSolidSnakeOil]

I DEMAND STATION WAGONS BACK!

[@killer13324]

i demand body-on-frame sedans like the Panther platform cars

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

YES!!!

[@captainsinclair7954]

A THOUSAND TIMES YES

[@charlessutherland274]

VW brought them back briefly, in the form of the Sportwagen

[@Steven-gv1ke]

The Dodge Charger Wagon was still made up until last year I believe. It's a fullsize wagon. I believe you have a high output V6 option or multiple V8 options including a Hemi and a Hellcat supercharged V8 version.

[@bobowon5450]

stationwagons were the ideal car. they were a reasonable size with great cargo capacity. Trucks in the early 2000s were also very ideal, they handled well, had a good cargo capacity. Modern vehicles seem to be very large to a point where its hard to even maneuver them into a driveway let alone a parking lot, but yet have even less cargo capacity than the smaller cars of the past

[@machinist7230]

Youll pry my 3/4 ton Suburban from my cold dead hands.

[@Eluderatnight]

Frontal surface area is the biggest factor in wind resistance. A wagon makes more sense than a SUV

[@bobowon5450]

@Eluderatnight honestly you couldn't pay me to take an suv. They're as big and cumbersome as a truck with the capacity if a car and the fuel efficiency of a tank. Basically the worst possible vehicle

[@Eluderatnight]

@@bobowon5450 both my bmw x5 and honda pilot are pretty nimble. The pilot gets 22-27mpg with normal driving on 87.

[@bobowon5450]

@@Eluderatnight you say that like 22-27 mpg is good.

[@CowCommando]

"There are no solutions, only compromises." - Thomas Sowell

[@spiffygonzales5160]

"Treat every frenchman as if he were the devil himself!" - I forget who but its some british guy and the quote is funny

[@SomeHarbourBastard]

@@spiffygonzales5160 Vice-Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson.

[@Mythhammer]

Exactly. He is a very wise man. I heard it as "There are no solutions, only trade offs".

[@Ozymandias2x]

"There are no solutions, only compromises." - A Guy Who Says Things That Sound Wise Until You Think About Them

[@SomeHarbourBastard]

@@spiffygonzales5160 Vice-Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson

[@Trainfan1055Janathan]

The issue is that large pickups are SUVs have blind spots, but their drivers aren't trained to look for someone in those blind spots. Commercial vehicles don't really have this issues because we're trained to look for people in our blindspots. We're also trained not to move the vehicle until we've checked all the way around the vehicle.

[@HenshinFanatic]

And yet I've seen so many Commercial vehicle drivers who act as if they think like a certain portly jerk from Austin Powers 2.

[@catladycatlady7359]

Written from the perspective of a commercial driver with superiority complex. 🙄🙄 I love that commercial truckers do what they do so we can have goods in the world keeps running, I have many friends that are professional truck drivers, but that attitude is overconfidence and it's going to bite you someday. Not all four wheelers are a**holes on the road.

[@BrettShadow]

All vehicles have blind spots. Your issue is with driver training, not vehicle design.

[@a64738]

Yes they are trained to look in the blind spots if they have a drivers license... All cars have blind spots, my Ford Transit box van for example have a blind spot like all big rigs where you can not see a car driving to close behind you, and the blind spots on the sides is like on any car or SUV (except I can`t turn around and see out to the right to see if anyone is in the blind spot there, but that is what the cars wide angle blind spot mirror is for) . Or maybe the drivers license education there is horrible bad? Not being trained to look in the blind spots would be a fail at the drivers test on any vehicle including motorcycles here in Norway. Here they hammer it in you from day one to check the blind spot, check the blind spots again and again and again ...

[@Trainfan1055Janathan]

@@a64738 Here in Pennsylvania, they only check if you know how to parallel park, then they take you once around the block and you pass.

[@ingenparks]

And land yachts would likely be safer for pedestrians. The issue with SUVs is that their tall bumper tends to shove pedestrians under it, whereas the shorter front end on a sedan means that pedestrians are thrown over the top. Getting faceplaneted into the windshield isn't great, but getting smoothed by the wheels is worse.

[@HenshinFanatic]

And a tumble overtop is potentially survivable, unlike becoming street pizza.

[@enterprisethesylveon5787]

Not to mention that most sedans can deflect the victims better because of how low their bumper sits... Compare a Corolla to a Silverado, and immediately you can see it's like getting hit by a scooter vs a giant Sledgehammer. The force applied from the initial impact might kill you first, and if that doesn't the weight under the tires will

[@matts1166]

@@enterprisethesylveon5787 Actually, this isn't exactly true. The Government mandates MINIMUM hood height because getting flung onto the hood is less survivable.

[@mikegillettify]

2:54 got nervous that we wouldn’t see Florida man!

[@jasonligo895]

I'm happy that the CAFE loophole for SUVs was mentioned. Thank you.

[@samuelmatheson9655]

Im just gonna drive a 6 Ton truck

[@jsquared1013]

It needed to take center stage for this discussion, to be honest

[@ericgelinow]

I’ve owned small and large cars, small and large trucks. You can have my Buick Park Avenue when you private from my Cold, dead hands. It seats six people in actual seats that aren’t just a thin piece of fabric stressed over a lightweight aluminum frame. Feels more like a couch. Absolutely quiet inside the vehicle, and despite having a 3.8 L pushrod V-6, I have on multi thousand mile trips averaged above 35 miles per gallon for the entirety of the trip, that’ll be fair, most of that mileage was interstate driving. Around town I average around 24 miles per gallon, and this is on a 21 year old Buick. I also own a three-quarter ton truck, a diesel, because no small vehicle is gonna Safely and effectively pull a 12,000 pound trailer/RV

[@killer13324]

i'm keeping my 05 lesabre on the road as long as i can financially afford to

[@blargcoster]

Three quarter ton truck? That's 1500 pounds. Most sedans weigh more than that.

[@ericgelinow]

@@blargcoster three-quarter ton is the weight designation. An F150 is a half ton. It obviously doesn’t weigh 1000 pounds. My three-quarter ton diesel weighs 7000 pounds. A good example of a three-quarter ton truck is an F250, and an F350. You go up to one ton truck with the F450. and no, that doesn’t mean that it’s all a can hold. We had an old ranger that routinely took 1 ton loads in the 7 foot bed. Different terminology for different types of vehicles

[@2010hyundaielantra]

@@killer13324 I have an 02

[@a64738]

The most fuel economic car I have ever driven in the speeds I go when on long haul (100 to 120km/h) was a 1990`s Ford Scorpio with 2,9L V6. My 1,6l Opel Astra used more, same with the 2 liter Astra, and worst was my Mercedes 190E 2 liter...

[@Richardzmaxdragway]

and that is why I bought a Lincoln Town Car and don't ever plan on getting rid of it

[@Winters_Folly]

They're great

[@EyePatchGuy88]

Cannot go wrong with the Panther Platform.

[@2010hyundaielantra]

Good for you for buying a pedestrian-friendly truck

[@ContentEnjoyer-gm3ky]

Dude, Seamus in this show is literally always prepared to instantly counter a small rebuttal with a enlightening verbal chapter book.

[@rainynight02]

That's... That's literally the point of the show.

[@nemoexnuqual3643]

I have yet to be caught off guard while arguing with a Democrat. They are the most monolithic, group think, unoriginal crowd out there. They all repeat the same tired straw man points or bad statistics. I’ve gotten so bored with their conversations I’ve actually given some help at least asking an interesting question. You can bring up any subject you want around a leftist and it’s like a “choose your own adventure” story where once you’ve read it a couple times you at best are just reading the same pages in a different order and always having three endings. They scream out ad-hominem attacks They look confused and say they have to go Or rarely they think and actually agree with you but are too afraid of loosing their friends that they go back to the same points they now understand are wrong but won’t admit it to anyone but you. Ultimately either Society is doomed Or They don’t have kids so conservatives inherent the earth.

[@ContentEnjoyer-gm3ky]

@@nemoexnuqual3643Tell me about it, I’m not one who likes to identify as a rightist or leftist, but every time I talked to a mainland NPC, they would resort to using the same ass talking points and if not raising their voices, they’ll literally IGNORE a real good point you just made. Now I was guilty of raising my voice as a middle schooler (because they would set the tone) but now it’s actually sad, I too, have yet to encounter an actually talented debater- OUTSIDE the internet, I mean, I did encounter some nerds here and there with good points, but they were fricking Redditors. And well, apparently, there are indeed some liberal white girls who can breed- and women in Communist countries can also breed- So it’ll be a while before we can get our planet back.

[@ContentEnjoyer-gm3ky]

@@rainynight02I know, I love that, and I just decided to really notice it.

[@nemoexnuqual3643]

@@ContentEnjoyer-gm3ky part of the problem is the short attention span. Online a person will make a statement or ask a question that can not be adequately responded to in one sentence. For example: The electric car. Democrats think they will save the environment, they won’t. Conservation of energy and combined inefficiencies of the grid and power plants actually make them about 12% less energy efficient than a comparably sized modern gasoline powered vehicle. Republicans tend to say: they suck and they are useless. They aren’t. There are significant advantages to electric cars for people who live in cities in temperate areas with short commutes. As a suburban grocery getter in western California they would be great but no they can’t tow a horse trailer through a sun zero mountain pass in Wyoming. So often everyone jumps to the farthest possible conclusion when the truth is usually a bit right of center by 90’s standards and “far right” by today’s (but so is a glass of milk). The left is just especially bad because they attack each other for any deviation from the prescribed talking points and opinions. Their political orthodoxy is far more strict than the Spanish Inquisition was, they could at least disagree on farming practices. This has lead to the most extreme in the box slogan regurgitation since the communist required political meetings of the Cold War where all questions and responses were basically scripted.

[@joshbenik9694]

If China is building hundreds of coal power plants I shouldnt have to pass emissions

[@Angrade]

Who smelt it, dealt it

[@BuddyTheWolfYT]

My cats went smashy smashy I live in Florida

[@SSODP]

If temp' goes up, there less ice? Less ice mean more trees, where ice was? Grug doesn't think the Watermeloon people speak truth 'bout the whole "cluh-mut kshang"! Dey green on de outside, red on de inside! Seriously tho' higher temp' would mean longer "vegetative season", so less "off time" for plants. Also I remember a piece of news, about the increased CO2, allowing plants operat in less humid areas... which would further demolish the whole "cluh-mut kshang" narrative, but as the name suggests it's tribal magic... As a great philosopher once said to a "cluh-mut denier": - Sticks and stones may break Your bones, but it's the Animal that will eat Ya. Really great guy, a true inspirations for the melon-masses. Greetings

[@uberpinkwarrior]

Wanna hear something fun? China actually wants natural gas plants, not coal plants. They lack the natural gas to do so, and don't want to buy from Russia. Canada is one of if not the biggest target for potential buyer. Natural gas is 60% cleaner than coal, and Canada has bordering on infinite amounts. If Canada were to sell china enough natural gas to fully transition from coal to natural gas, total CO2 emissions would drop by something along the lines of 2.7 billion metric tons a year, just from China transitioning to natural Gas. Canada meanwhile would make billions doing this and create thousands if not tens of thousands of new jobs. ...Our Prime Minister has said that exploiting natural gas would not make financial sense.

[@huntsbychainsaw5986]

Facts.

[@ThatGuy-te9wh]

Remember that Ice Cube drives a 64 Impala

[@spartaninvirginia]

I miss my land yacht....

[@killer13324]

i'm keeping mine as long as i can, though im pretty sure the 05 lesabre isn't much of a land yacht unlike the crown victoria

[@spartaninvirginia]

I had a Grand Marquis, the mercury branded crown vic. Loved that thing.

[@killer13324]

@@spartaninvirginia i love my lesabre. it's my first car and i'm keeping that bitch on the road for as long as i can afford to

[@ImBulletm9]

Same :( 99 DeVille with the head gasket fix.

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

I'm still sticking eith my 05 Lincoln town car. Love that power, room and ride.

[@Zachary5211]

Driving a small car, I'm looking to get a somewhat bigger car next time. Being surrounded by all these big trucks, it gets nerve-wracking.

[@classicrockonly]

Coming from a Crosstrek, being up in a Yukon feels much nicer and safer. But my wallet isn’t safe. I joined the $100 fill up club lol

[@canisblack]

There's also another safety issue that wasn't brought up. Small cars have their visibility cut down by larger SUVs and trucks. I've actually had impatient drivers honk at me because I'm playing it safe and not going around the big SUV in front of me because I can't see what's coming the other way.

[@jingles123456789ify]

​@@canisblack And these giant pickup trucks have their headlights extremely bright and directly in your face

[@killer13324]

@@canisblack that's when i wait for that SUV to hug the right line so i can hug the left and get a better visual on what's in front of them.

[@xr90580]

@@jingles123456789ify You do realize that ALL cars have painfully bright LEDs pointed into your cabin, right?

[@mcfarvo]

As usual, the government comes in to "help" and it hurts us in ways they predicted as well as ways they did not predict

[@rtyria]

What was it that Reagan said? The scariest words in the English language: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." and something about governments don't solve problems, they are the problem.

[@HenshinFanatic]

@@rtyria the "myself" is ever silent.

[@adamhauskins6407]

My grandfather was a paramedic back in the day The worst things involving cars where the small ones

[@jonathanjones3126]

Geo metros got great mileage but where death traps due yo the design.

[@BrettShadow]

​@jonathanjones3126 drove one through high-school and never died once. Your theoretical paramedic grandfather's experience is useless in the conversation of vehicle design, mass, operation, and safety of vehicles today.

[@adamhauskins6407]

Well u got lucky

[@BrettShadow]

@@adamhauskins6407 No. I drove responsibly, alertly, and competently. Ya know... the thing that would solve every problem you idiots are blaming on vehicle shapes and sizes. This is a gun control debate for people too stupid to realize they are debating the same damn thing.

[@autisticreactions4397]

“Science that we know that is subject to change” That’s a good one. I have to remember that.

[@ZontarDow]

Except it's a terrible point since there hasn't been a change in decades and all people cite are people like Al Gore or other politicians/pundits who lied about what the data said rather then any actual change in the data.

[@veganconservative1109]

Science is supposed to change based on new experiments bearing fresh evidence. Where someone got the idea that science was settled, I don't know.

[@ZontarDow]

@@veganconservative1109 It stems from the overwhelming nature of the evidence and complete lack of evidence against it, it could hypothetically be disputed but the sheer amount of evidence needed would basically upend what we know about science in terms of just the sheer volume needed. It's like disputing gravity, a theoretical possibility but not realistic in practical terms.

[@goldengryphon]

@@ZontarDow People in my circles (science) argue against gravity as a theory all the time. I have seen the whole "Climate Change" controversy switch from hot to cold to hot and now? Yeah, no. The "preponderance of evidence" might be interesting, but when it's lay people talking about how it *feels* hotter now than it ever has before, I have to push my "I believe" button and just nod and smile. I have yet to see the overwhelming tide of evidence that all the climate change folk keep telling me exists. Just wait a few years. The data will change. That's the fun of actual Science.

[@101jir]

​@veganconservative1109 The contrast is "know" and "subject to change." You are right, science isn't settled, but all too often people arrogantly presume that the newest studies that haven't even had time to be duplicated must be right because it is new, and everything before it must be "debunked." When it changes, those same people that were so smug before then respond to smugness directed at them with "it was the best we could have known at the time." No it wasn't, you jumped the gun for gotcha points and paid the price. Same thing the news does essentially, people just parrot that.

[@mikehenthorn1778]

Smaller trucks too. The hood needs to be lower. That is the biggest factor to harming pedestrians .

[@matts1166]

Oddly, safety standards for cars require a MINIMUM hood height.

[@BrettShadow]

Just like a firearm has never ended anyone, a vehicle of any kind has never offed a pedestrian. 100% of pedestrian collisions are caused by one of two factors. Poor training or judgment by the pedestrian or poor training and judgment by the operator of the vehicle. Period.

[@jsquared1013]

​@@matts1166because in a car there is very little room between the top of the engine and the hood, so higher hood means more space to deflect before impacting the engine. This is not the case for trucks.

[@jsquared1013]

​@@BrettShadow that doesn't have anything to do with most aspects of vehicle safety, because the safety standards are largely written to mitigate the damage after the human driver inevitably fucks up. "People are going to make mistakes and crash no matter what" is a stupid reason not to want improved safety standards for when those crashes happen.

[@BrettShadow]

@@jsquared1013 Not sure where you read that I disagree with improvements in safety. Did you just make that up? And I would think since you seem to be on board with safety standards, then you would want to probably recognize the key factors in vehicle accidents. And if a common thread or theme comes up in the data and statistics and investigations over and over again and is BY FAR the greatest contribution to vehicle accidents and vehicle deaths. Wouldn't you likely want to at least try to address sole cause of say....85% or more accidents. Or would you sway forget all that and focus on something that causes 5%?. ..3%? 1%?....0.5%? Because while there are many factors that would qualify as a sub-category or sub-clause of... Driver training (which covers safe operation of the vehicle, traffic laws, "rules of the road", distracted driving, improper equipment maint., Driving while Intox, and on and on and on.... Driver education and training

[@matsv201]

One thing that is often ignored, and is also ignored here, is the size of the crumple zones. Having very deep crumple zones, Like on a volvo V70 increases crash protection for BOTH the person IN the car, as well as persons in OTHER cars.

[@Harley_Mitchelly]

Not that it doesn't matter at all, but the argument here is rather, take your V-70. Make a compact version and a land yacht version and standardize your variables as much as possible. The land yacht will be overall safer than the compact purely due to the excess bulk the land yacht has to add more safety features and absorb the forces applied to the vehicle and drivers when a crash happens. Of course getting in a wreck with a 60's Suburban vs. a modern one will be more dangerous, no one's really contesting that, but rather we need to compare comparable cars.

[@matsv201]

@@Harley_Mitchelly you are just wrong about that. Heavier cars are not safer because they are heavier bur because they are larger

[@Harley_Mitchelly]

@@matsv201 ... That... was the point... A subcompact is small car. Land yacht is big car. Big car have more bulk for crumple zones, air bags, and sheer cubic feet of car to take force instead of squishy person inside. Subcompact does not have room and bulk for that. You... corrected me and then agreed with what I said.

[@matsv201]

@@Harley_Mitchelly bulk and crumplezones is not the same thing. A modern normal 2024 sedan actually have lowe density than a 1960 eqvivalent sedan. Its the reash protection. If two cars run into each other they share each other crumple zone. So say a very small car,.like a C1 that is say 1 ton and 20 cm crunpoe sone. And it crash with say a S90 thst is 2 ton wirh 50cm crample zone. The C1 will actually crunple into the S80 taking advantage of the S80 crumple zone. The net result is that a C1 that run into a S80 will be better of than a tree, even if the S80 is moving to it and its a fron accident.

[@Harley_Mitchelly]

@@matsv201 So... uhhh... I was never talking about weight or density. Like... you're making this wonderful argument... and I was talking about actual, cubic feet of size in the car. The S90 can have a 50 cm crumple zone because it has 50 cm to crumple into. That's a space question, not density.

[@blazingfuryoffire1]

My sedan is about the weight of a small SUV, but the handling and acceleration/deceleration have saved me from other reckless drivers. Defensive driving should be a standard course.

[@DesFTW_]

Likewise, what do you drive?

[@blazingfuryoffire1]

@@DesFTW_ an Impala, with performance aftermarket parts for brakes

[@DesFTW_]

@@blazingfuryoffire1 So not an economy turbo 3-cylinder then haha

[@blazingfuryoffire1]

@@DesFTW_ Where I live, you need a fast 0-60 to survive these idiots. Anyone who says 0-60 doesn't matter for personal vehicles has not been stopped on a highway on ramp.

[@ScottWaa]

America sold chickens better than any other country leading to tarrifs in small trucks/vans, then government continued to "help" with CAFE standards and vehicles have been growing in size ever since.

[@Johnny_Cash_Flow]

Anecdotally, I found this to be absolutely true. I drove a Hyundai Veloster for 10 years; it was a great car and it served me well. That is until one day a guy in a pickup truck came into my lane and hit me on my front right panel, just in front of the front tire. The guy got a small dent in the side of his rear metal bumper, while my car limped home, a couple miles away. What should have been a small fender bender resulted in my car being totalled. I promptly went and bought a pickup truck.

[@GrumpyWolfTech]

Yea, and were you hurt? I think you missed the point.

[@blazingfuryoffire1]

​@@GrumpyWolfTech Something dear to him was hurt. You keep that same vehicle for long, and you'll see it as something dear, like a favored horse.

[@Johnny_Cash_Flow]

@@GrumpyWolfTech The car was totalled while the truck had a minor dent from a fender bender. I think YOU missed the point. If you're going to comment, you should probably insure that you don't make a fool of yourself.

[@Chris_Troxler]

I'll do you one better. Last summer, a guy in a 1st gen Toyota Tundra rear-ended me at a stoplight. I was in my 94 F-350 4x4. His truck was totalled while my truck literally did not have a stratch on it. I felt sooo bad for the guy.

[@578tails]

So you decided to contribute to the problem?

[@nickswildweather1308]

I want the little trucks, too. Ranger, S-10, etc

[@Brent-jj6qi]

I feel like there is some points missing, such as the SUV/light truck insanity causing more kids to be run over in their driveway, to the problem of taller vehicles not having their crash zones mesh properly with smaller cars

[@abyssaldragon2442]

...well the thing is... he kinda does mention that it is just that he worded it differently specifically when he mentions that on average larger vehicles kill on average 50 more pedestrians per year, but he also points that more children are killed each year in bike accidents to help give a better comparison, and for your second point he also addresses in 0:58-1:44 where he mentions that if it was purely case of larger vehicles keeping their passengers safe at the expense of the passengers in the smaller vehicle it would be a moral dilemma, but the problem is that if you hyperfixate on only that you would miss out on the fact 1/3 of all fatal collision don't involve another vehicle at all in which if you were in a larger vehicle you and your passengers would more likely survive. The thing is when rating the total safety of a vehicle it is very important to include all the categories for both the driver/ passengers and other people to get whole picture because, if people exclude certain categories it would lead to bad results where a few people would be saved in a certain areas but a greater amount of people would be killed in others.

[@Brent-jj6qi]

@@abyssaldragon2442 I honestly have no idea where he got that 50 number from, especially with pedestrian deaths spiking across the entire US. Additionally, the moral dilemma doesn’t go away when only 1/3rd of collisions are with objects, especially when you are ay more dangerous in the other 2/3rds of accidents

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

0:27 NotJustBikes will not like hearing that 😬

[@strangelyukrainian7314]

Bicycle related accidents includes deaths from cars and the deaths not from cars, of course there will be more deaths from bicycles in general. For context, bicycle/vehicle collisions resulted in the deaths of nearly a thousand people in 2021. A number of those were children, and the time of day they were most likely to be killed, was 6pm-9pm, later in the evening when drivers who don’t pay enough attention at night hit them with their cars. Sorry, but the stats don’t lie, cyclists die because of arrogant and irresponsible drivers, not because bicycles are dangerous.

[@blunderingfool]

And what of selfish cyclists barreling down the pavement hogging all of it's width? (Who by UK law should be on the road.)

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

@@strangelyukrainian7314 thanks for clarifying that

[@jonaspaliskis294]

Yes

[@ZontarDow]

Honestly the last line kind of killed the whole video since it puts into question the data being used.

[@fluoridegood4you622]

I was in an accident in a MMMMMMM-BIG CAR with family filling the seats including babies; nobody was hurt & literally nothing in the car damaged but the car itself, everybody was shocked & thank god the worst part was the inconvenience. I can approve big ass cars as having saved lives that day.

[@Sarutaru06]

When you have enough kids to need a van, none of this matters apart from government regulators feeling the need to tell me that my children's existance is a threat to polar bears or something.

[@Modikie]

Well, its not wrong. But it is pretty unnecessary because higher emissions and energy usage is almost guaranteed with progress. what changes is how efficient we use energy but adding anything to the scale of consumption (which kids do) will cause more of a threat to the environment than not. However having more kids means more potential for innovation to make the world cleaner, but generally because children are so energy and time sensitive to raise, takes more than it gives but everything is a tradeoff and the decision to have a lot of kids is generally not a decision you make based on financial or energy reasons. if you want a lot of kids, you're probably going to have a lot of kids unless you physically cant sustain it. However, you know what also does just this? our species existing and expanding in the first place. So bringing it up is pretty useless since if we said the same thing thousands of years ago or regulated the number of children people could have (like China), we wouldn't be here today and its possible we may even be wiped out or struggling to survive and progress. China is already experiencing these problems and thats just within our lifespan.

[@veganconservative1109]

You mean those polar bears on icebergs because it was the height of summer in that area they took the photo... in other words, a normal happening for the season?

[@norger]

all this jargon has one simple question why aren't climate activists forcing regulations and protesting in third world countries that contribute to 70% of carbon footprint?

[@RyanNelson0402]

Just wait until the next ice age.

[@supersword44]

I just bought a 2014 toyota Venza which is a "crossover", but in reality it is a camry station wagon. It drives like an old scool highway cruiser and I love it!

[@yantzee0014]

As someone who rides a scooter, how worried should I be about a tree lol

[@TheCharleseye]

Depends on how bad of a scooter driver you are.

[@jasonswiatkowski9127]

Just dont hit them and you will be fine. Cn250

[@clericofchaos1]

Sounds like somebody is a Cadillac man. Anyone remember the Coup DeVille? Oh, that was a big, beautiful car wasn't it? 18ft from tail to hood, 6 and a half ft from one door to the other, 5ft tall, 300hp GM Northstar double overhead cam, four valve per cylinder, aluminum block/aluminum head V8, 295;b-ft torque, 4000lbs, oh i wish you could grunt over text but i'll try AGH AGH AGH! Amazing body designs, some of the best-looking cars in history have been Cadillacs. What in the world was this originally about? I could drool over Caddys all day.

[@queenbunnyfoofoo6112]

I love my Caddys, but only with the 307 Olds small block V8. I learned my lesson with the 4100 and the 4.9.

[@clericofchaos1]

@waitwhat1320 i was born in 92. for me, those are the classics. Don't get me wrong, they've never made an ugly Coup DeVille, but the 90's are where my nostalgia lies...we also had the best cartoons.

[@LuwiigiMaster]

​​@waitwhat1320not just the Northstar engine, but also a FRONT👏WHEEL👏DRIVE👏 "luxury" car. Squeezing a massive V8 sideways into a car smaller than a crown vic just so that it gets 20 feet more per gallon is part of the reason why Northstar is so awful. There's no space for the head screw surgery needed, you need to pull the engine out. Had they been RWD applications they instead would've been your typical badly engineered GM product that gets crushed once warranty expires, and the surviving 10% will be sold for 25 grand 30 years later.

[@clericofchaos1]

@waitwhat1320 Absolutely, mine were probably the worse looking, it's really hard to beat the look of the old school Caddys, but the 90+ models still strike a chord for me.

[@ryanelliott71698]

He kinda forgets the part that a bigger suv/ pickup results in a higher chance a pedestrian outside said car is going to get run over instead of hitting the hood due to the heightened ground clearance

[@Harley_Mitchelly]

Because that's not what's being defended. A bunch of SUV drivers ultimately wouldn't exist if large sedans, which are being defended, were allowed to be made. In order to make this point though, you do need to explain why people may see SUVs as safe in the first place. Given a sedan's ride height is... well... a sedan's, there's no reason to bring this up since, if you're driving, a big car is going to be safer than a small car, all else being equal, and that's why SUVs are a popular choice. So it's not that you're wrong here, just that it's tangentially related to the actual point, which is to say that while both options may suck, you're relatively better off getting hit with a 90's Crown Victoria than you would a 90's K-5 Blazer, but no one can really make and sell the Crown Vic anymore so everyone goes to the Blazer for driver safety. Just rinse and repeat for your model year.

[@killer13324]

he pointed those out in a previous video, it's yet another thing for which you have the government to blame due to the EPA's CAFE standards.

[@BrettShadow]

A truck or SUV has never been responsible for a pedestrian termination. Not one time

[@worldofdoom995]

Malibu is getting discontinued so no more American sedans besides Tesla maybe Lucid Air.

[@tenhundredkills]

At least the Malibu was somewhat affordable. A Lucid Air though? Yeah right!

[@DPRK_Best_Korea]

I love not being able to see crossing traffic while preparing for an unprotected turn because there's a massive truck/SUV blocking my vision.

[@jfangm]

Even the SUB rollover risk is grossly overstated.

[@judgedeath1974]

Yeah it usually involves excessive speeds in a turn or emergency maneuvers. Being aware as best you can can prevent a majority of rollovers.

[@madogthefirst]

So true I mean this isn't the 90's anymore your current year bronco ain't flipping without some serious effort..

[@jfangm]

@madogthefirst Even back in the day, rollover were rare. "Unsafe at ANY Speed" created a LOT of myths, such as Jeep CJ-5s being prone to rollover and the Ford Pinto being prone to catching fire in rear-end collisions.

[@grimjhaixus]

*Chuckles in '72 Galaxie

[@dogge929]

Mine is a 74 with a 300 straight 6.

[@ragingmoderate6791]

My parents has a 1984 buick lesabre when i was young and even with a family of 6 there was so much room in that car. Not to mention enough trunk space to fit all of our luggage for a week long road trip.

[@lachlanmc2335]

never clicked a video faster

[@draketheduelist]

Yachts aaaare a human riiiight...

[@nervepain7972]

My first car in high school was a '78 chevy Nova 4 door with 305v8 and 4 speed tranny. I miss that car.

[@EyePatchGuy88]

One major gripe among many with SUV's is the unnecessary height, which not only has a higher centre of gravity making it tip easier, but the headlights shine into the eyes of others cars that aren't SUV's, like my Maxima. Paired with 85% of them having very bright white LED's instead of the traditional softer yellow of older cars, night time driving becomes a pain.

[@SilverStarHeggisist]

The headlight issue isn't from tall vehicles. It's how they're focuses (or not) and aimed (or not). Properly aimed and focused headlights don't blind you almost regardless of how tall they are. Also same for brightness. High beams aren't used when in traffic not because they're brighter (they're not brighter) but because they're aimed higher letting them shine further. Low beams aren't dimmer, they're aimed lower. The issue is few people know how to aim headlights or that it's necessary and they don't even know it's possible. The number of even mechanics who tell me it's not possible to aim modern headlights is staggering, it is and I have done it. A lowered car with the headlights aimed improperly will blind you just the same as a lifted truck.

[@BrettShadow]

This is a driver training and competence issue. Not a vehicle design issue.

[@WrathofDash]

"If he gets older." Dark... lol

[@deckardcanine]

He says "2000," but the writing reads "2002."

[@missushoneybee]

Perfectly acceptable rounding.

[@veganconservative1109]

The 'two' sound got cut out during editing?

[@the_SolLoser]

I see nothing rong here.

[@EchosTackyTiki]

Bring back the sedan of the 40s and 50s, and build it like a tank too.

[@packardcaribien]

As an emissions engineer at an auto company, I am not supposed to have an opinion here, but... I like my classic Olds Cutlass and my new Dodge Challenger, and would probably still be daily driving a Lincoln Town Car if it hadn't spilled its transmission guts on the interstate.

[@tuvarkz]

It's simply moral to care more about your family than random strangers, there's no dilemma in increasing your survival rate at the expense of others'.

[@cristianomarinelli3252]

I'm just gonna keep driving my 1948 sherman tank lol

[@Imber_Pluma]

i miss my station wagon. had it as a teenager in college and drove the heck out of it. back then it was getting 27 mpg and was built like a tank. imagen a wagon style vehicle with todays fuel efficient tech or as a hybrid. if we all got more efficient vehicle we might be able to keep up with the rising demands.

[@cjfauxx6266]

I dream to own either a 1973 Cadillac Fleetwood or a 1977-79 Lincoln towncar / Continental. Though at the moment I am looking at to restore a 1988 Volvo 240 Wagon with a 5 speed manual.

[@TheSpicyLeg]

You wouldn’t catch my corpse in an SUV. Nothing quite says “I sit to pee” quite like choosing to drive one of them.

[@conservativemike3768]

My 2003 Lincoln Towncar agrees with this message.

[@Tigerfire75]

I loved my two 1980's Lincoln Town Cars

[@mikegillettify]

Also Seamus didn’t say “Actually.”

[@properfunny]

That last line, pure chef’s kiss.

[@crazycoffee]

Owning a 68 Oldsmobile Toronado a land yacht. As well as my love for 70s-late 80s luxury cars. Id much rather have a big car. When i drive my truck i see a smart car and i think why would someone drive that? One crash and youre dead

[@ethanford4402]

GHAA! She's turning into RON!

[@Red-jt6uu]

Is 2:53 a lore drop on Bob or was he always the blonde lady’s sister? I just thought Bob and Seamus were friends with the couple.

[@CowCommando]

The blond lady's husband is in jail.

[@the_SolLoser]

​@@CowCommandoNobody asked about the husband. 😂 And to the original poster, Im pretty sure Bob has always been her brother. I think it was mentioned, or hinted at, before. Dont know when though, i don't write this stuff down.

[@Red-jt6uu]

@@CowCommando I knew that. I just never knew that Bob was her brother. I just thought that the blonde lady and her husband were simply friends of Bob and Seamus.

[@Red-jt6uu]

@@the_SolLoser The biggest hint that I can possibly think of is that Bob is usually playing with the Blonde lady's kid since the husband went to prison, which makes more sense now that I know Bob is his uncle. It would also explain why the blonde lady hasn't kicked her jailbird husband to the curb yet and got with Bob considering he is less of an idiot and is a better male role model for her kid.

[@stevenscott2136]

​@@Red-jt6uu Her husband might simply be hotter. Plenty of women remain reasonably loyal to jailbirds, despite having access to objectively better husband prospects. Same as men continuing to chase models and cheerleaders, and then complaining that they spend too much on clothes and can't cook.

[@stevenfrasier5718]

Following this line of logic just begs the question as to why our Government dictatorially banned the "Muscle Car" ??

[@illjoe5183]

Went from a jacked up tahoe to a nissan altima. I parked between my coworker's trucks the other day, now i know what it feels like to be a hotdog

[@treyjordan3168]

As someone who owns a SUV, I am now wanting Ye Olde Land Yachts to come back

[@timothyferrelli8274]

This is true. My wife was driving a carolla hatchback. She now has back issues. The vehicle that hit her = Ford heavy duty. Driver was just fine.

[@barryelverson9486]

Bring back parking lots for land yachts! Make all spots scaled for land yachts! Less damage to cars being badly parked. May even see outside the spots, easily enter or exit the vehicles. Just saying.

[@theTeslaFalcon]

The only thing I'd change in that script is the last few words: "...2 degree temperature change hundreds of years in the future."

[@hozn]

If you never seen an episode of MCM on KZbin you may not appreciate what nuggets are out there.

[@classicrockonly]

My wife and I bought a Yukon because we needed a bigger family vehicle. One of our cars legitimately could not fit a baby seat. And it’s not even that small of a car! I feel safer with the V8 too. It allows for some defensive driving that the small 4 cylinder cars just can’t do

[@strangelyukrainian7314]

Having driven a Yukon, it feels more powerful, but the acceleration isn’t nearly as impressive as you think. If it’s power and space you’re after, you’d probably be better suited with a crossover or wagon. Though of course, you can’t hardly get good ones of those in America anymore either. Just saying, most of that V8 power is going to be wasted on moving the increased weight and size of the vehicle.

[@classicrockonly]

@@strangelyukrainian7314 Yeah, it isn't a Mustang that's for sure. But I might say my 2013 Yukon is faster than the 2003 Mustang I had (stock). The thing that peeved me the most about the Yukon is Active Fuel Management (thanks Obama). I put in a $250 OBD-2 device to disable that crap. Made the Yukon a totally different rig. Worth it.

[@woofwoof4795]

Dear reader, if you want to comment: "SUV this unsafe that unsafe". STOP. What's ultimately being defended here is not the SUV, but the large size sedan that would be safer to pedestrians relative to an SUV. Thanks to regulatory issues, the large-size sedan offerings don't exist while the market still does. Last sentence I copied from Harley_Mitchelly's reply to such comment.

[@Harley_Mitchelly]

Citation needed. :P

[@jordanmatthew6315]

He forgot to add "bitch" at the end of his logical roast. Love these common sense soapbox video.

[@Gottaculat]

Man, I'm 6'4" and wear a size 14 4E shoe; I can't even get into some of these compact cars, like the Ford Focus. Literally can't get in it; I'm not that flexible, and even if I were, I'd be so cramped, I couldn't work the controls effectively. I drive a 2020 Chevy Impala Premier, a great big, comfortable, smooth driving sedan with plenty of power. Fantastic car, and I'm averaging 22 mpg (in semi-mountainous area). Unfortunately, Chevy discontinued the amazing Impala in favor of that cramped Malibu. Don't get me wrong, the Malibu is a decent car... if you're a 5'10" midget wearing size 9 shoes. My only alternatives are pickup trucks, or old cars. Surprisingly, I can fit in a Mini Cooper just fine, but now I'm in a death trap, so not gonna drive that, as per reasons listed in the video. We need more big, powerful sedans. Just stop charging insane new sticker prices for them. I think the 2020 Impala I have when new was over $40K, but I sure af didn't (and both wouldn't and couldn't) pay that much for it. Bought mine for $25K, and I've put enough miles on it in one year that CarFax says it's now worth $16K. Anyway, big sedans and pickups are the way, in America.

[@travissmith2848]

Drive like Bob Parr to save the planet! Sure everyone will wonder how you got in, and your not sure yourself. And I suppose you may be stuck once you're in. But we gotta think of the children!

[@rtyria]

When I was a college student and relying on the city bus to get to classes, a well known area for a lot of vehicle/pedestrian accidents was the major bus stop downtown that was split in half by a major intersection. In order to catch my connecting bus and make classes on time I couldn't always cross with the light - leading to a lot of people running between vehicles. At some point a main hub was attached to the downtown train station, which made things significantly safer for everyone. Everybody likes to blame vehicles (or pedestrians) for accidents - but what role does locations of things play? Is it even possible to categorize those sorts of things for studies? I'm genuinely curious because more and more I see bicycle lanes right next to roads - looking indistinguishable from the road and I can't help but think that is a recipe for disaster. All it takes is for some poor sap to need to rely on a bike to get to work and miserable visibility combined with someone who doesn't know the area.

[@patriotoftruth]

Oh yeah, I'm looking to get my son a mercury grand Marquis for his first ride. But he's not too into that idea sadly. The kids won't get the beauty of the smooth ride of the land boats

[@asheswillfa11]

The cries of “if it saves one life” disappeared a couple years ago.

[@raduchetraru7331]

best channel I've encountered in a while

[@dillonwagers2975]

That last line was a complete mic drop!

[@maestrulgamer9695]

1:41-Is worse that some people got so crazy they would consider this a good trade off.

[@Sohave]

Small popular cars, such as the Mini, VW bug and the 80's hot hatches in Europe had one thing going on for them. They were never forced upon anyone, and as such became cool and desirable on their own merits. Deregulation might even help small cars. Just look at the restrictions people importing Kei trucks face in many states as well as them being banned on highways.

[@yankychannels]

I would like if light trucks would come back, much better for off-roading

[@AtarahDerek]

I'm an amateur storm chaser, and I got stuck in a prairie haboob back in April. I didn't end up going off the road or hitting another car because my SUV was too heavy for the wind to do much more than try to flip it (also my foot was already hovering over the brake when I saw the dust cloud approaching). While it is true that the higher profile of my vehicle means that I'm more likely to roll if a strong wind hits me broadside when I'm going highway speeds, it's equally true that when I'm driving slowly through a storm, I'm LESS likely to be flipped and rolled, or even straight up tossed, because my vehicle is heavier. And if I DO roll, I'm much more likely to survive compared to a compact car. A boy and his family recently survived a rollover in a truck that was tossed by a tornado. He walked away without a scratch, and his parents lived because of the sturdiness of the truck (granted, they both suffered multiple broken vertebrae).

[@peterpinkous8555]

Are studies certain they haven't had fewer deaths because the roads have gotten safer like to better guard rails and those barrels they put in front of them?

[@TheToasterPope]

I knew buying that charger pursuit was a good idea

[@johngalt5205]

When I drive my Model 3 it feels like driving in a canyon with all these SUVs around. I'm tempted to get a taller car just to be able to see. I'm sure that thought process enters a lot of consumers' minds. So we end up with a never-ending 'height war' where no-one wins. My favorite 'car' to drive now is my 30' Class A RV gasser. Sure, it gets 10 MPG, but the visibility is awesome.

[@mitchf.4450]

Small trucks are better though, as they are more useful for actual working people hauling things like lumber, stone/soil, equipment, etc… rather than the giant trucks which people only use to go grocery shopping or turn into toys which they break trying to use it like a regular truck. Chicken tax, epa, and monoparty have destroyed the small truck.

[@quentinking4351]

I just took a vacation in a rented Nissan Altima and it has ruined any possibility of buying a new car. I tried to reverse it towards a flower bed so that I could turn around in my own yard to start the trip. It applied the brakes and disengaged the throttle linkage. I hit the accelerator and nothing happened. Because it was afraid I would hit some multicolored weeds. I got to the hotel that night and reached for the trunk without remembering to unlock the trunk (or front doors) first. I'm no muslce man, but a weak tug overrode the trunk latch, opened the trunk, and did not set off the car alarm. I slammed it shut and immediately replicated the problem. They can have my shitbox '08 HHR after I trade them a belly full of lead. AND I HATE THAT HHR!

[@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory]

Great video! I didn't know these things, but now I do. Thanks for these insights!

[@Asinine_weeb]

I shared the other vehicle related video to people on X that were saying the exact same arguments in this thank you

[@smileemailee]

Cars should be made out of Nerf. That way crashes are fun.

[@mikegillettify]

It’s NERF or nothing!!!

[@psykoklown874]

Wasn't that a Rick Overton bit?

[@griftymcgrift4333]

A key factor alot of people ignore also is the actual frame of the vehicle its self. Most suvs or cross overs are actually on a truck frame which gives it alot more strength in impact. It's also why suvs a more popular as the truck frame makes it easier to write it off as a buisness expense.

[@davidburnett5049]

Tiny compact cars are cool. Efficency is its own reward

[@metalman691991]

Gotta love Cafe Standards.

[@cagthetism]

1981 k30 crew cab long bed land yacht ftw.

[@cammando2363]

I miss my land yacht. I had a 86 Cadillac sedan that I inherited as my first car. It was big, it ate fuel, but I feared nothing on the road.

[@hacker4chn841]

Buddy of mine drives a VW Sedan and got into a collision with a tractor trailer that changed lanes improperly (driver didn't look before changing lanes). My buddy's car spun out and ended up facing the wrong way on the highway. Completely totaled but him and his infant son were completely unharmed. I think that's a testament to how far we've come in terms of other safety features. Imagine if we had modern safety standards with land yachts. My bet is you'd reduce fatalities significantly.

[@SoybeanAK]

Fortnine, a motorcycle channel of all things, did an excellent video recently covering the problem of hood height and pedestrian fatalities. There's a lot more than one study showing cars (trucks and SUVs mainly) becoming more deadly to pedestrians (and random people standing near the road or even in their own houses, all too often.) Being built stronger might make their interiors safer, but the only reason they need to be shaped like locomotives out front is marketing.

[@BrandanZ]

That's what I'm saying! Bring back the massive trunks!

[@huntsbychainsaw5986]

First thing, thank you for shedding some truth on the subject. Second thing, there is an actual IIHS video on KZbin about which sub compact car a consumer should buy if they want to be safe and the conclusion drawn by the engineer is simply don't. Don't buy a sub compact car at all. Thirdly, I drive a full-size truck and van, and both vehicles achieve fuel economy equal to that of midsized suv or sedan, and I'm not sorry. I'm a professional driver, and statistically, I'm more likely to not be at fault in the event of a collision compared to the average driver, and I'm not getting killed because licensing standards are too lax and most of you can't drive.

[@SethDaMeth]

I thought i would never see the day that this channels argue against tiny cars and for big cars.

[@TheAstyanii]

I can understand how a heavy vehicle is safer in person-to-person crashes, but I'm not so sure about person-to-object crashes. Increased weight means increased momentum, and increased momentum means more thorough pancaking when faced against an immovable object. Part of why heavier vehicles had better survivability back in the day is that they used different materials, and those materials have been largely phased out for cheaper ones that can barely compare. It turns out that nobody blames the car company when a family member dies from wrapping their car around a tree, so making it out of tin foil is the most competitive business practice.

[@JediMIndaugas]

This a bit disingenuous, is it not? The 1/3 of accidents involve an inanimate object, but what about the 2/3 then?

[@Harley_Mitchelly]

It's disingenuous when you remove the stat from the context. If all car accidents were with cars and you wanted to measure the safety of car riders, a global reduction in car size wouldn't produce any statistical noise. All cars are less safe, but all collisions are less forceful, and everything would come out relatively equal. But with that 1/3 being with inanimate objects, the tree, telephone pole, median, etc. are not getting smaller, meaning the driver and passengers are more at risk. "But internet commenter, what of SUVs!?!" Look at the title of the video. What's ultimately being defended here is not the SUV, but the large size sedan that would be safer to pedestrians relative to an SUV. Thanks to regulatory issues, the large-size sedan offerings don't exist while the market still does. If you want a big car, your options that used to be SUV, Truck, or Sedan are now SUV and Truck. There are now more Trucks and SUVs on the roads, threatening pedestrians more than a sedan would, because regulation soft forbids the large sized sedan from being manufactured. Being hit with a Cadillac El Dorado probably isn't going to be nice regardless, but if we're speaking relatively, I'd probably prefer getting hit with a modernized version of that over an F-250.

[@jacobpinson2834]

The point was made after the note that studies show that since 2002 bigger cars have increased pedestrian deaths by about 50. The point being made is that 1/3 of accidents is a number larger than 50 by enough to assume that the net change to human life is positive (based on studies showing that people are less likely to die in an accident if they are in a bigger vehicle). Whether or not you agree that 1/3 of accidents is larger than 50 by enough to make that assertion when paired with the data on fatality rates is up to you.

[@draighodge6039]

1/3 of collisions relate to drunk drivers, we never hear plans to reduce the other 2/3. Government focuses on the conditions that generate more revenue, if citizens are made safer then that is a nice side-effect.

[@The_NonDescript]

I'm guessing some involve wild animals

[@____________________________.x]

I love my European estate car, but I wouldn’t say no to an SUV if I could afford the fuel

[@onedanik]

This is why I love my cybertruck

[@Mikethemerciless11]

Heck, I'd love to have small pick-up trucks again.

[@yummyherbicide7296]

Let's just keep making cars bigger every year so everyone that isn't a pedestrian is safer! Abolish cafe standards and suddenly "the market" isn't so into giant cars. It's not a market choice it's a producer choice to avoid taxes.

[@arandomfox999]

Station wagon supremacy

[@nobody8717]

I want a 1977 Lincoln Continental. In cherry red. with leather seats and electric windows.