Bringing down the Turnbull government | Four Corners

Liberal Party elders have condemned Tony Abbott's role in bringing down the Turnbull government, saying the former prime minister's behaviour has been "lamentable".
Conservative supporters of Mr Abbott have also told Four Corners that he had "unfinished business" and he actively contributed to the volatile climate in today's Liberal Party.
Former foreign affairs minister Alexander Downer said the party has been wracked by bitterness since Malcolm Turnbull rolled Mr Abbott as prime minister.
"That in turn can lead to acts of attempted revenge," he said.
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[@NxDoyle]

If only they were this passionate when it came to serving the people who elected them.

[@jinchey]

Don't elect them again.

[@peterkirgan6850]

I agree

[@beagle7622]

Stuck with the worst a Government in my lifetime.

[@MrTrinitius]

Give me John Howard any day. He looked after Australia’s interests but had the sense not to chuck stones and bring down the glass roof on hapless hardworking Australians.

[@australiabelongstoafricans7078]

African apartments for the Africans, Asian houses for the Asians but Australian housing is for everyone

[@greymouser8659]

Turnbull joined the wrong party.

[@goodmortgageguy]

Indeed. He was the greatest Labour PM Australia never had .. destined to be a 'forgotten figure in history' from the get go.

[@russellhumble9561]

He tried to join the Labor Party but Richo blackballed him. He wanted to join Labor and be granted a Ministry and he was knocked back.

[@TheBaz1944]

@@russellhumble9561 It is quite possible that the politically astute Richo got him to become a Labor mole in the LNP.

[@helenhood69]

Turnbull was a labor minister in his fat days.....

[@redlightmax]

@@russellhumble9561 "He wanted to join Labor and be granted a Ministry..." To be fair, in order to be granted a Ministry, you should do more than just join a Party.

[@johnpaterson24]

The difference between the ousting of Abbott and the ousting of Turnbull is that when Turnbull was ousted, the Liberal Party lost 5 points in the Newspoll, but when Abbott was ousted, the Liberal Party gained 5 points in the Newspoll.

[@frankspeaking2630]

Shhhhhh

[@shockwave2291]

Turnbull was also an immensely more popular Prime Minister than Bill Shorten both after he overthrew Abbott and before he was overthrown himself. Scott Morrison is now trailing Bill Shorten by 6% in the latest polls.

[@shane-wk6bi]

How the hell do you work that out! Abbott was voted in with a 30 seat majority! Turnbull scraped in with one seat! the only reason Turnbull was slightly up in the polls is because Shorten is a dead set dick!

[@timblizzard4226]

Everyone, including myself, hated Abbott.

[@browsertab]

The impression when Abbott was ousted was that Turnbull would govern the country with his unique vision. Sadly several months later, no vision was identified. A complete inconsequential waste of time and another notch in the belt of instability that has infected this country since Howard was kicked out.

[@dupeyou2474]

Props for having the balls to leave the comment section open, unlike many other outlets.

[@KarrasAlexandros]

Absolutely disappointing how they treated a prime minister who actually tried to change our energy policies without a significant cost and guarantees that these changes will only be made if prices won’t rise and jobs won’t be lost The liberal party lost its chance, I hope there is a better alternative in the next election

[@MD4564]

This is no different from the Gold Industry and John Howard.

[@Coolsomeone234]

@@MD4564 what happened there?

[@MD4564]

@@Coolsomeone234 Back in the days when John Howard was opposition leader the Mining Industry - particular the gold industry was lobbying to stop taxes on the gold industry.

[@Coolsomeone234]

@@MD4564 reminds of Hawke and the gold tax and Mark McGowan and the gold tax. Damn this happens a lot

[@tFER998]

These liberals avoided climate change until it was too late - Turnbull tried to change that.

[@willstorm8331]

When Joyce said "if you don't play the dark arts of politics you won't survive in government" all while saying I'm telling the truth here which makes you think telling the truth is a rarity in Canberra. While this may be a reality its one of the reasons why the voters are sick of knife in the back politics with a feeling like they pay very little attention to the jobs they were elected to do. They change seats and very few things ever get better for the voters.

[@luisecawthorne1025]

I think what happens is they go in with good intentions, find out the system is like Snakes & Ladders, and some make decisions based on Number 1 instead of the people.

[@crypticTV]

10:30 30 news polls 11:00 Tony Abbott 13:15 Turnbull enters 16;49 "assassinated Abbott" 17:10 2nd problem 18:52 Abbott not team player 19:49 Same sex marriage 30:10 opinion poll obsession 31:40 3rd mistake - leadership contest 40:13 ScoMo backstabs 42:54 challenge again 44:00 Betrayal 46:22 House adjourned 47:05 Turnbull fights back 47:58 "form of madness" 49:00 53:00 ScoMo underdog wins 53:23 Turnbull gone 54:20 55:30 John Howard last full term 56:00 Fam 56:05 Country without vision

[@chessman19]

Love the way Joyce puts his foot in his mouth "can never trust a politician" that's probably why people across Auz have a serious dislike for him

[@07headshot]

You don't like Joyce because he speaks the truth. Facts always upset the left. They can't handle the truth, lol.

[@alanbrookes6637]

@@07headshot , I believe his wife and daughters might disagree with you Bill.

[@australiabelongstoafricans7078]

African apartments for the Africans, Asian houses for the Asians but Australian housing is for everyone

[@Whoisthis1111]

@@07headshot Joyce is a fool. I will always dislike him despite liberals being my go to party. I used to support labor but after bill left and after watching albanese continuing the politicisation of every issue relentlessly and switching back and forth on his own ideas and always being steadfast against action that would appease labor, i have grown weary of the party.

[@neostrax3646]

@@07headshot Joyce wouldn't know truth if it punched him in the face

[@asdasdasdasd8970]

27:55 - 28:25 Never has a more honest answer ever been given by a politician

[@theoutsider8745]

I agree with the guy who said Australia is a country without a vision...we're a bit too laid back and enjoy that fact a bit too much...myself included :L

[@redlightmax]

@Seathe Linden 56:04 "I think half of the... reasons why we've had this turmoil over the last decade is because we're a country without a vision." That was Jeff Kennett, former Premier of Victoria, and I agree with him too. What's the vision for Australia now that PM Scott Morrison has won the May 2019 election? Something something franking credits, and that's it.🤷‍♂️

[@bev9708]

Interesting!! And more true than ever today do you think?

[@patrickratkinson2025]

It's the Land Of Lies.

[@dpf2122]

I'm watching from abroad and I must say that ABC News consistently produces excellent documentaries. Amazing that they were able to put this together in such a short timeframe.

[@PattoDan88]

Why do you think the LNP loves to defund them? To be fair, the defunding of ABC began under Labor with Bob Hawke. Eventually even Labor realised continued cuts to ABC within the current media climate is corrosive to democracy.

[@leongt1954]

It depends if your from the Left or Right of politics , The ABC has always been and still is a leftist news media channel just like the Labor Party is these days

[@australianews]

@@leongt1954 Show me ABC bias to the Left . Always hear about it without any evidence .

[@glenolsen7888]

are you Turnbull's family? world Gov. ? just askin?

[@glenolsen7888]

@@australianews there is so much ..where do I start? the left is globul warming rubbish and the ABC + SBS is a globul warming propagandist lie factory ...but you know your on the left and not the center or right when you say what you said? and the left people need a white stick with a red ball on it politically speaking ...white for giving up all freedoms and rights .....red as in promoting the Chinese utopian system ...

[@ozman9353]

When a political party is in turmoil which both major parties have been for too long, i truly believe that when a leader is dumped, there should be a snap election rather than a fill in. Let the people choose who governs. 7 PM,s in 11 years and only 2 voted in. What a disgrace.

[@Ace_Larrakin_Productions]

Can I commend both the Four Corners team specifically and the ABC more generally for this special program and all their excellent coverage of the #LibSpill. Really excellent work guys, so thank you.

[@shaneo5436]

As always

[@andysorensen1737]

As an American, this is a very good look at what happened.

[@aughalough1]

Yes outstanding ABC

[@nicklennaerts4791]

"August and Spring is on the way"... that's when you know you're not in the northern hemisphere

[@nicholasstewart6586]

Barnaby’s circular logic at it again “By its very nature, Parliament (sic) has a nefarious aspect. And to deny that is to lie, which is not trustworthy.” I think the current public sentiment is that the ‘nefariousness’ that Barnaby sees as necessary to the job is why the public sees politicians as being untrustworthy.

[@australiabelongstoafricans7078]

African apartments for the Africans, Asian houses for the Asians but Australian housing is for everyone

[@brinjoness3386]

Barnaby managed to get a full sentence out without lying. You certainly wouldn't trust him with your daughter.

[@Jason.cbr1000rr]

Well, we shouldn't trust any man with our daughters........ especially a old bugger like them. (Those old men in suits really do like young girls) and idk why.. its disgusting.. if one oldie is say, 50+ or even 40s, they always go for the young whoses.. like 20-24 year old girls 😑 its disgusting man. I would be mad if i was a dad whose 45 years old and one of these old men in the video (50+) goes out with my daughter 😠 But serously, genuine question. Why do they go for such young girls? Even when there was a acandal where one of the politicians got caught with buying or solicitation 19-23 year old escort or prostitutes lol. Why cant they date and go out with someone in their age group? There are many wonderful beautiful 40 year old women out there. Even 30+ Also, i guess i can "trust him" with my daughter if he gives us millions tho 🤣😄😃🤑

[@themcfunnel]

Should've been called "How Abbott got the last laugh"

[@rolandbraun1197]

Excellent Four Corners podcast on the anatomy of a political coup that will now strengthen the ambitions of the Labor party at the next Federal election . Turnbull's biggest mistake was to appease the conservative wing at the expense of his own beliefs and the moderate wing that supported him .The huge tax breaks proposed by Turnbull for banks and corporations initiated the loss of confidence in the electorate and the defeat of the tax bill at the Senate level reinforced the moves for his removal .A revengeful Abbot and a highly ambitious Dutton played all the moves in this Chess game but still lost to the moderates when Scott Morrison got the nod as the new Prime Minister !! Who is waiting for Chapter two of this never ending saga ?

[@markporter9738]

Good synopsis.

[@frankspeaking2630]

When they lost simply because they did not understand bully boy tactics backfire, and the big one - they can't count

[@justiceO8149]

I'm not sure what chapter it is but it's finally over * breathe*

[@davidedwards3361]

There was a federal election for all 25 million Australian voters. The result was the Liberal party was elected. The party that was elected was led by Malcolm Turnbull. Now, 85 politicians have had their own private vote and decided that Scott Morrison should be the party leader. NOW, my question is, does the Liberal party still have the right to run the country? After all, it isn't the team that was elected. This gives the idea that perhaps a party could have someone who the people love and will vote for, but once in power, dump them for whoever the party wants to run things, and stuff what the people want.

[@thecanberean]

So when Turnbull does it to Abbott he's performing a service for the nation but when his colleagues do the same to him it's a form of madness. . . There's a word for this view. Starts with N.

[@thecanberean]

@@patorr69 No it isn't. The ALP shouldn't have done it. Neither should've the Libs. It's a flaw in our system of government. I hate it. My comment was purely about Turnbull.

[@tylersmalebox]

..another PM we the public DIDN'T vote for ....our govt just keeps on treating the people with utter disdain.... it's just not right.

[@iL1keTurtlesPoker]

tyler st james his constituents voted for him, that’s how our system works

[@markvines7308]

The Party chooses its leader, the people choose a Party.

[@tylersmalebox]

semantics. perhaps this is the issue..

[@goldenages7089]

I get it. The people have no say in who leads them. This is a shocking form of governance.

[@tylersmalebox]

Golden Ages that's what I mean 😒

[@stephentennant3019]

Brilliant ...one of a kind journalism and what do they want to do?? Slash your budget!

[@garethhutchings4045]

But ths is the natural reaction of a party beholden to vested interests, and money, i.e. Murdoch's media! Wanting a 'free market", but on their terms, and their terms alone.

[@Squashed8Ball]

TheEndTimes BS! The only propaganda is the suggestion the ABC is biased. It’s not. Murdoch and Co don’t want competition so that if you want to read or watch any news in this country you have to pay for it directly or through advertising. It’s nothing more than a attempt to stifle competition to increase private news profits and also increase the power and influence Murdoch has.

[@AppreciateBacon]

@TheEndTimes lmao, when the world's largest and most malicious English language media empire isn't enough

[@AppreciateBacon]

@TheEndTimes btw this is how you know you're an extremist back to your containment board

[@Squashed8Ball]

TheEndTimes Oh I’m sorry, you must have misunderstood me. I said the ABC is not biased. So how do you suppose I show it’s not biased by naming a “right wing” show? If the ABC had a right wing show that would display bias. So I repeat, the ABC does NOT air right wing or left wing shows. You’ve just been brainwashed into believing it does.

[@marylee2828]

Are you surprised that no elected Australian prime ministers in the last 10 years have stayed in power till their next elections? Back stabbing has been the Australian culture. The politicians gave themselves pay rises when the rest of Australians are struggling with the increasing cost of living, no wage increases, abolished weekend penalties, homelessness, incompetence in addressing the high crime rate for a small country like Australia and the list goes on. Did you know that in 2014, the federal bureaucrats alone cost taxpayers $58 billion, which equates to nearly $159 millions per day? That’s about 14 per cent of total government spending and about 16 per cent of its revenues. I dare not imagine what the federal bureaucrats would cost the taxpayers now. Clearly, there is lack of vision and directions from the politicians. In short, the politicians cannot govern. So, Australians, you get what you vote for!!

[@Bluehealer123]

No wonder they keep digging up Australia by all means possible!I mean by who or Where do they get such enormous salaries? The Pope?

[@harryboyes2812]

The madness began the very moment Malcolm Turnbull thought about backstabbing Tony Abbott and then decided to go through with that idea. He should have remembered what goes around comes around - and it did, didn't it?

[@rossfranklin2782]

Yes but dumping Turnbull will haunt the Liberal party for a long time yet… while Dutton is at the helm, Labor will govern for a long time.

[@Ozipeter]

“Mathias, at a time when strength and loyalty were called for, you were weak and treacherous. You should be ashamed of yourself, and I well understand how disappointed your wife is in your conduct,” (Malcolm Turnbull text to Mathias Cormann

[@nkelly.9]

Der vibble vobble man is a but a skid mark on the underpants of Australian politics and has made life harder for ordinary Australians.

[@damienhamilton944]

Have a look at the election result with the benefit of the passing of time. Turnbull was hugely unpopular in Queensland and that is where there was a huge swing to the libs. No way the LNP woould have achieved that or won the election under Turnbull.

[@mtl-ss1538]

@@nkelly.9 Every Straila prime minster should wear a name tag & a Number like the cricket team.. !!! .. lol

[@garyhost6289]

*[CITATION NEEDED]*

[@australiabelongstoafricans7078]

African apartments for the Africans, Asian houses for the Asians but Australian housing is for everyone

[@samanthony6282]

It’s only “a form of madness when it’s done to him” but in the best interest of the party and national interest when it’s done to Abbott.

[@leooostveen4435]

enjoyed the interjection correcting that Labor bloke's pronunciation of 'extraordinary' at about 46:25

[@Sunny-jj6tp]

These videos are so well done.

[@beagle7622]

I am curious a week before this happened I heard about an email between News Ltd & Kerry Stokes ,, saying that Turnbull must go . Am I imagining this. I am 99 percent sure I am right. Turnbull had made fun of Trump which clearly upset those at Sky News.

[@SkinnyCow.]

Turnbull could have been a 10 year prime minister if the Liberal Party from the start was unified. Turnbull couldn't lead because the guy was forever trying to placate the two wings of his own party.

[@phinix250]

to be fair he is more of a labour leader than a liberal leader.

[@michaelg2478]

The only decent man left in politics, and they throw him out the door. Insanity. Now the liberals have Dutshit and FatMo. Never thought much of Shorten, but it's hard to see him in such a bad light anymore after what the Liberals did last week.

[@cathymadsen2930]

If he was that good why didn't the ALP take him when he asked to join them? Why go to a conservative party when you are a socialist/globalist?

[@mentalmelonhead2249]

Regardless of affiliations have you ever considered what Turnball did to Abbott?

[@charles1379]

Turnbull came to the Liberal Party by branch staking a sitting member, Peter King in Wentworth. Since then he backstabbed party leader Brendon Nelson and Prime Minister Abbott. He was rejected by Labor and for good reason. The Liberals were wrong in supporting that low life in the first place. Good riddens to him, now we can move forward on a respectable base as long as Morrison does not surrender to the power brokers and support the renewable energy clients of capital Hill

[@stephenlong8379]

I can't keep up with all the PM changes lol

[@raymondbeer505]

We need one more except there all tard with the same brush

[@Jason.cbr1000rr]

hi, what is so bad about turnbull? I agree i never liked him because my intuition/guy instinct says he is a bad and crappy person which appears to be true. But I'd like to know more as to why in detail. And imo i think Scott Morrison is ok, he seems pretty cool. Thanks sir. Or ma'am.. or both, or other, or gender x, or genderless or transmission 😃 whichever you i.d your gender and sex as. And why do they keep changing pms insyead of a official election?

[@mikebarton]

Worrying that Australian voters will, in the first place, cast votes for the likes of Dutton, Abbott, Turnbull, Morrison and Bishop.

[@redlightmax]

27:54 "Do you trust [Turnbull]? Barnaby Joyce: "Uh, look..."

[@Lucas-yy3dh]

Please leave the comments section open on more videos.

[@woohzal]

Barnaby's words about open, transparent politicians having no place in Australian politics, says a lot about what the people have allowed our administration to become. Vile.

[@redlightmax]

22:47 He Who Shall Not Be Named.

[@ernest0bolivar28]

Murdochs and cia role ignored.

[@NxDoyle]

We hear them say repeatedly that the party is a 'broad church'. They say it so often they begin to sound like 'fair and balanced' Fox News, or North Korea, the Democratic Republic of.

[@TheShadowParliament]

There has been no real steady leadership in the country for 10 years, it's a good comment from the documentary that there's a so called ''lack of direction'' for the country. Does help to explain things, I do hope things can get more unified because there are a lot of problems that Australia now faces.

[@wisepersonsay3142]

The same phenomenon - continual removal of PM happened in Japan in the early 2000's. Nothing new or wrong about it. Incompetent PM and politicians should be sucked. That is so-called democracy. Ideally, PM should be elected by direct vote by the citizens. Party politics have more flaws than benefits. Every important issue must be decided by referendum, as done so in Switzerland, the oldest democracy. Whatever it may be, politics will not change the world for better. ''You've got to be a crook to be a politician''. Better to be a business crook, I think.

[@bigbowlowrong4694]

Remember when the Liberals were going to stop the “revolving door” of prime ministers? lmao And remember how everyone thought the voting public gave a shit? Only for the Liberals to be rewarded each time they did it at the ballot box. We get the leadership we deserve🙄

[@jimreily7538]

Yes, all that "stab in the back" crap that Tony Abbott was putting out in the media, about the Labour Party, was just blatant hypocrisy

[@izzi7438]

Whating this 2 years ago, I'd never imagine the shitstorm that's happening right now

[@charlesjensen1002]

No it isn’t rubbish. Remember a comment Sarah Henderson said about her electorate’s view about Peter Dutton as PM. Sarah Henderson if you are watching? Good on you for listening to your electorate. I hope you get the Senate vacancy. Craig Laundy if you are watching. Wish you were still in Parliament. Both you and Sarah have a lot going for you both.

[@officialspock]

Still confuse where did Scott Morrison came from? I thought its Turnbull vs Dutton

[@cuchitp]

I have not watch TV or kept withh Australian news for over 3 years, and this just came to my feed... hahahahaha... I can't stop laughing. The Libs are like vipers - true children of Nahash

[@sarkiesarkie4918]

cuchito : totally agree but who are the children of Nahash.??? Thanks anyone !!!

[@Murrangurk2]

mythology. Google it.

[@helios8459]

@TheEndTimes wow! such an original and true statement! it's not like labor gave us some of the highest standards of living in the world, limited immigration(the libs are pro mass immigration to give their donors cheap labour), gave us free uni and helped us avoid the GFC

[@australiabelongstoafricans7078]

African apartments for the Africans, Asian houses for the Asians but Australian housing is for everyone

[@chookin1]

How does this look now, 4 Corners? with the reelection of the Libs and SCOMO in the drivers seat.

[@1969cmp]

Yoohoo

[@elizabethblackwell6242]

To most Australians, it looks like the ABC should stop being funded.

[@chookin1]

@@elizabethblackwell6242 At the very least there should be a dedicated watchdog aimed specifically at bias. There is no room for editorials in publicly funded media. It's their job to report, analyze and also to hold the government AND opposition to account. Their appalling pre poll and exit polls were as bad as the Trump, Brexit predictions.

[@philscott116]

So glad this narcissist has gone

[@drantsplants]

hahaha! ABC is shit. Go ScoMo!

[@danielrichardson3613]

I'd love to see a follow with the people interviewed in this one.

[@janeallan3901]

Mal was at least educated and eloquent, and tried to make a show of female equality, unlike his compadres. Now spud runs the numbers from behind and the puppet boy jumps.

[@cim888]

I totally agree, saw him on Q&A was blown away how good he was. Scomo and Abbot just seemed to care about their own backsides.

[@australiabelongstoafricans7078]

African apartments for the Africans, Asian houses for the Asians but Australian housing is for everyone

[@MarieInnes]

56:05 - first time in my life I’ve ever agreed with Jeff Kennett

[@dalang666]

It's an uncomfortable feeling, isn't it? 😂

[@MarieInnes]

@@dalang666 Eerie, even.

[@joechiato5278]

funny to watch this now, who has the last laugh? Peter Dutton

[@Gusto0172]

Yeh, which TV station overdosed on lemon sandwiches?

[@Blackheathenly]

And ScuntMo.

[@Takkunanome]

Certainly not the former member for Warringah

[@australiabelongstoafricans7078]

African apartments for the Africans, Asian houses for the Asians but Australian housing is for everyone

[@Smorgs01]

“Not a good practice professionally”... what did the Libs just say!!

[@Edward-qp9ur]

Malcolm Turnbull went to early to say that Abbott lost 30 newspolls. Because in 2018, when Malcolm struck 30 news polls, his party turned against him....and did the same thing he did to Abbott 3 years earlier.

[@alexajessop4803]

Tony Abbott is a Sociopath. Of course I am not a Psychiatrist. However he certainly harbours many grudges against his perceived enemies. A 1 seat majority is no majority at all. When you need the support of your colleagues and you don't have it then the game is over. .

[@spinks31]

Turnbull was a real enemy. Not a perceived one

[@alexajessop4803]

😀

[@alexajessop4803]

@@spinks31 Turnbull is not the only one. I wonder if he really wanted the job in the first place or was it just another distraction for a Bully.

[@shaneo5436]

@Mr Awesome pompous

[@alexajessop4803]

☺

[@ajmage5319]

Funny how even Trump could tell Turnbull was a waste of space - slamming the phone down on him during their first call hahaha

[@alexbaseball4684]

Tony Abbot was a boss.

[@helenhood69]

All of the ex pollies have lots of hindsight about what they should have done....BUT these were never policies they put forward or were totally against when in office.....

[@TheBaz1944]

Turbull's greatest skill (beside backstabbing), is his masterly ability, to continuously shoot himself in the foot.

[@markcasey2517]

A kin to your spelling, of his name.

[@australiabelongstoafricans7078]

African apartments for the Africans, Asian houses for the Asians but Australian housing is for everyone

[@Jason.cbr1000rr]

hi, what is so bad about turnbull? I agree i never liked him because my intuition/guy instinct says he is a bad and crappy person which appears to be true. But I'd like to know more as to why in detail. And imo i think Scott Morrison is ok, he seems pretty cool. Thanks sir. Or ma'am.. or both, or other, or gender x, or genderless or transmission 😃 whichever you i.d your gender and sex as.

[@glencau]

His son says he is not going to vote for the Liberal Party 👋. Like father, like son.

[@spinks31]

Good - we don't want him anywhere near the Libs

[@GoTfan-eb8tk]

He donated 1.75 million to the Liberal Party in 2016.

[@stevewhittall211]

probably will vote for chinese communist party

[@danyoman5617]

@@GoTfan-eb8tk Because the base/volunteers left in droves after he knifed Tony. He was just picking up the shortfall other the party was broke.

[@L0b0ts]

The Morrison government is so bad it's worse then the Turnbull government.

[@lucasgroves137]

46:00 What exactly is Craig Laundy talking about here?

[@greyhairedphantom4038]

When a politicians in Australia says they back you unequivocally. Wear a good bit of steel on your back!

[@DM-ol9ne]

Thanks to the reporters on this. There is a lot of stuff to get through so not surprised 4Corners didn't go into how Dutton an co managed to blunder things. Was it a mistake, or did Morrison and friends manipulate things? Please do another show if you find out.

[@dudikuswanto4310]

Pardon me, but where is the Subtitles?

[@markyoung01maccom]

The vacuum created by the major parties has created fertile ground for extremism.

[@michaelhains2291]

History has now shown this show to be a load of tripe. The best thing the Libs did was get rid of Turnbull, a big factor in winning the election in May 2019. ABC award yourselves a dunce hat, it is well deserved.

[@michaelhains2291]

@Sue Blue Only half? I say to 1/3 to look after rural and county viewers. Those within a bicycle ride of ABC studies can still access Fairfax Media (now Nine News). I really wish taxpayers had a say over 1/3 of the ABC and SBS funding. A simple yes of no question on tax returns. Put real power in the hands of taxpayers.

[@g1598]

is this thread a bunch of IPA hacks?

[@michaelhains2291]

@@g1598 No just people who believe in free speech, clearly you think such people should shut up. Like usual, you hide your identity, when posting unsubstantiated rubbish. In Australia Fake News is as simple as ABC.

[@acd6835]

@@michaelhains2291 If you believe in free speech, then that means the ABC can say what they like in their reporting without threats.

[@michaelhains2291]

@@acd6835 The ABC is taxpayer funded and has a statutory duty to be fair and unbiased - which it is not. Instead of reasoned argument you make up stuff about threats - complete Fake News.

[@MRBW1001]

Who did Obama and Hillary meet with whilst in Australia on their visits just months ago.???

[@MRBW1001]

You'll work it out with more research.

[@ansom5805]

cover ups big donations given to Hillary they tell us what and when to do it.

[@rhythmandblues_alibi]

Secret meetings to turn the fish gay.

[@imantisocial3179]

you cant trust Scott Morrison, hes a Ford Territory driver!

[@lachlanholidayaccessibletr6758]

wotdusthathavtodoowitheniething

[@imantisocial3179]

@@lachlanholidayaccessibletr6758 i bet youre also a ford territory driver.

[@123brownjames]

They regret getting rid of Malcolm, they’ll be out of power in weeks

[@adamwilliams2253]

And thank god for that. The liberal party is broken and it all goes back to this event. The libs are meant to be economically conservative not all out conservative

[@JC-oy9ou]

Malcolm Turnbull was the architect of his demise.

[@gaittr]

The wonderful, beautiful Australians don't need this. I'm from the United States of America and I envy the people of Australia, but I I'm so sad that looks like politicians are going to destroy their country. Who gives a rat's patootie about liberal vs conservative? Can't we just be concerned with common sense and serving the people?

[@aussiegardener5703]

this helped me really understand what happened during that time.

[@australiabelongstoafricans7078]

African apartments for the Africans, Asian houses for the Asians but Australian housing is for everyone

[@danyoman5617]

This was not a form of madness. This was all about election survival for the Coalition and they succeeded. Well done to Dutton and ultimately Morrison.

[@danyoman5617]

@Kevin You Correct. Turnbull was the one that introduced this culture into the Liberal Party in the first place.

[@nextfall1047]

@Kevin You Good Lord. Abbott was on the nose everywhere, if he wasnt replaced the Liberals would have been slaughtered at the election. Credlin one of the biggest problems. Stop being one-eyed and look at what is actually happening in the world

[@rhythmandblues_alibi]

🤢🤢🤢

[@Wayner71]

@@nextfall1047 Correct. Abbott stank on ice. He was the least competent Prime Minister in living memory.

[@garethhutchings4045]

I have made the mistake of calling Abbott an idealogue in previous posts. For this I apologise. His use of ideology is all about power for himself. And it is power for powers sake, not for anything constructive, or creative. He learnt from his master, Howard. Keating's opinion of Abbott was correct, Abbott is just a nasty, small minded head kicker. Together with Howard, he has gutted the Liberal Party of any sense of purpose, other than for gaining and holding on to power, for the benefit of their corporate masters. I see few prospects for Australia's future, whilst it is in the Liberal Party's hands.

[@timblizzard4226]

I don't know if I agree completely. I think he does have a strong ideological base, but he is also a bastard. The two are not mutually exclusive. Sure, in the Howard mould he does emphasise, maybe exaggerate, his beliefs, but that doesn't mean he doesn't believe them.

[@Blackheathenly]

Argh. i totally just imagined Nola Marino in latex with whips.

[@harassment100]

That would be heaven

[@tobyargall8202]

Turnbulls comments on Barnaby Joyce ,,. Look at the facial expression. What a load of tripe. He’s speaking like he’s takin the moral high ground. Turnbull should have pushed Abbott put of parliament or pre selection but he didn’t have the balls or brains to do so. Being a boss and running a bank is a lot different to managing people elected by their districts. He was a terrible politician. He was a terrible PM. Had three years to call upon the Australian people for a republic and he never even mentioned it. As Keating would say he’s a dead beat. Abbott is no better. Had a bucket load in majority when he governed and burnt no political capital at all. Malcolm can tick off his bucket list his PM ambitions. Absolute dead beat. Having the power and actually using it are two seperate things. Deadbeats all of them.

[@henrykerr4623]

He can’t push him out of parliament, nor can he take his pre-selection. You obviously have no understanding of how the party system works.

[@wilkie1011]

Just look at all of these ABC Turnbullites. Completely ignored what Turnbull did to Abbott in 2015.

[@nanesmith8405]

It's great to look back and now it was justified getting rid of Turnbull.. thanks to Abbott and Dutton, shorten was foiled and Australia avoided a catastrophe in having shorten as our pm

[@redlightmax]

@nane smith Preventing Shorten from becoming PM is all well and good - but what's to stop Dutton, or someone like him, spilling PM Morrison before 2022?

[@gtopa1]

lol. ScoMo won; this was rubbish!!

[@frankiedogturner1516]

Hello gtopa1 ... "First they ignore you - then they laugh at you - then they attack you - the you win". It seems that the words of Gandhi are more true now than ever. ScMo will be PM in 2022 and still be there in 2025 and beyond. So I guess you will be doing a lot of laughing out loud before your precious Labor Party will see government again. Unless there is a serious change in the party they might never be in power again ...EVER.

[@TheJessefuji]

I've voted liberal in the past. I will never vote for them again. I will be voting Labor

[@bantay747]

What people wanted is not a person who is only good as a Speaker, but an exceptional Doer!, a Leader!

[@cyao5999]

Turnbull's political believe is more Labor than Liberal.

[@craighill746]

Cui Zhen Yao ...except for industrial relations. Old school anti-worker silver spoon on that score.

[@dalang666]

I wouldn't go that far. He has some lean toward certain socially liberal ideals (climate change, same sex marriage etc) but economically he's very conservative.

[@akbarrauf2741]

tony abbott is a hack . he signed the useless paris accords and now wants out. show that this was all personal and not about ideology

[@TonkaGoldman-xd5iw]

Akbar rauf - What the fuck has it got to do with you, bum sniffer? How about you fuck off back to your shithole country. We don't want you here ok?

[@meeeka]

akbar rauf Tony Abbott is Donald Trump without the massive combover: he’s as corrupt and snakelike as the current occupant of the Oval Office.

[@williambroadstreet3353]

akbar rauf....hey dip shit did you wanna yell a few 'Allah is great' while you are at re writing history? vent impotent irrelevant lefty vent....fuck off back to where you came from while you're at it too. You 'may' live here and have a piece of A4 paper as a 'legal citizen' but you are NOT one of us.....NEVER will be considered Australian....ooh I await 'racist' calls now.....LMFAO...advice, the term has been used SO often it's like water bouncing off fucking gortex......blow me dick head with ADS.

[@glencau]

Fake news!

[@williambroadstreet3353]

michelle stein-evers frank.ok slag can you outline a fact based argument to back up that Tony Abbott is as you claim "corrupt"? cos all I see are the rantings of a fucking weirdo fanatic. over to you extremist. let it rip SLAG......emotion will ALWAYS get you fucked up when faced with facts and evidence, and your POTUS TDS is SO delicious as a cherry on top...feelin a little frustrated cos DJT's gunna win again in 2020.....ouch slag..

[@mudchair16]

Beholden to international creditors, and a moral void. Australia is done.

[@spenserkao]

Still feel that Turnbull joined the wrong party. Every time watching Jeff Kennett speaks, I can not help wonder why this guy could be the head of Beyond Blue, he himself actually causes blue! It's beyond me, totally!

[@petermcculloch4933]

He closed mental health institutions, told Victorians the patients would be better served learning to cope in public, sold the property to private developers and ironically, became head of Beyond Blue after the voters removed him from government

[@UDimwit]

Its never about the people, as this video proves, its all about themselves.. The biggest mistake you can make in politics...

[@DonJuanMarco1994]

This is the real life House of Cards or Game of Thrones kind of political skulduggery.

[@redlightmax]

@Juanico Marco House of Thrones?

[@MD4564]

Now you need to do a downfall for Scott Morrison and the Liberal Party.

[@gg-gg-gg-gg]

Barnaby speaking the truth here. I wish the public would wake up and listen. Politicians are not to be trusted under any circumstances.

[@notquiteatory971]

I’m British...and right now I’m thinking “why can’t the BBC be as good as ABC?”

[@CarlosDeSanta]

Well said👍

[@CamperKev]

Mr Turnbull was a very popular conservative party PM amongst the Green and Labor party supporters. Also popular amongst the biased leftist ABC. However they are not the type of people that would vote conservative in the first place. Conservatives vote conservative and Mr Turnbull was a terrible do nothing choice as PM and it was a big mistake for the Liberal Party to appoint him PM in the first place, after Mr Turnbull knifed Prime Minister - Mr Abbott for the top job. The rest is history. As it turned out, removing Mr Turnbull was a great choice and it was done just in time. I hope a lesson was learnt. Don't take the Liberal National Party down the left wing road. That road is for the Greens and Labor Party to share.

[@Coolsomeone234]

How's that working out now?

[@CamperKev]

@@Coolsomeone234 They Libs won another election after removing Turnbull but then drifted too far left again and lost the following election. They deserved to lose. Weak, politically correct, rather woke and no real direction. They became a Labor lite kind of government. Hopefully they are learning their lessons.

[@jasonezekiel3250]

Oh and go ask Mr Turnbull what he stands for in person, man to man, I bet he'll turn around and say something like "depends on how much you're donating"

[@elbee2324]

Hmmm... as a nation and as a Coalition, no one really learned. It's so ironic that we can now see that Craig Kelly was adamant that the Coalition needed to push hard to the right in Queensland, so hard that he left the party, doomed his own political career and pushed Queensland and the country further left than what it has ever been. It's ironic that so many politician said that they could never stand behind Dutton, and yet now Dutton leads the party in a greatly diminished opposition. It's ironic that though Scott Morrison sold himself as the balance between the left and right sides of the coalition, and even though he won his "miracle election", it's now come out that he secretly appointed himself as minister to so many powerful ministries, making him not a unifier, but potentially to be remembered as a narcissistic possible would be dictator who thought he did not need anyone else at all. It feels like the Coalition has written itself it's own worst history, not only by choice but seemingly by design. The "coalition" has never felt more "disunified" than it has ever had to this day. And if it keeps pushing for a far right political future, the majority of Australians in the middle will keep turning their back to them.

[@Dreama40]

Abbott destroyed Turnbull, full stop.

[@fubarru2]

No Abbott and TurnBull DESTROYED AUSTRALIA ... and in so doing Destroyed the LIBERAL MOVEMENT

[@shane-wk6bi]

Turnbull stabbed him first so fair's fair! Turnbull killed the libs, not Abbott!

[@shane-wk6bi]

Crap! Abbott had a 30 seat majority and was doing fine! trouble was..he forgot to watch his back.

[@timblizzard4226]

@@shane-wk6bi The only reason Abbott won that election was because of the leadership turmoil in the labour govt. He was one of Australia's least popular prime ministers.

[@shane-wk6bi]

@@timblizzard4226 It's LABOR not LABOUR...which immediately proves how uneducated you really are. You are destroyed by your ignorance dude.

[@69digs59]

Just bring back John Howard and Peter Costello and move on.

[@calinmarian98]

They are old now.Out of touchscreen.

[@stevewhittall211]

and if Howard had stood aside for Costello rudd gilard would never have been in history books and this mess would not have happened Howard was selfish

[@peterjongsma2779]

4 Corners doesn't usually have a Comments Section.

[@knight099159]

The Howard Government was atrocious lol

[@stuiley424]

It is funny to see that the guy Australians vote for can be challenged or stood aside so easily without consulting the people and it is all done on the will of such a small group of people.

[@Sippajo1]

We actually don’t vote the prime minister in we vote for the party and. They are represented by the leaders of the party

[@stuiley424]

@@Sippajo1 that is true but it does not make it right and most Australians vote based on the guy in charge or the face they recognise. The parties know this all to well.

[@isaacnaughton5206]

Doesn't seem so mad now after the 2019 election.

[@PhilipCunningham1788]

What language is Hinch speaking?

[@p8entlyobvious383]

Malcom was against Ruperts FOX LIES and had to go ! !