🇬🇧BRIT Reacts To BODYCAM FOOTAGE REVEALS A 10 YEAR OLD KILLER!

[@debbiewashabaugh9891]

Sometimes the abuser has one specific child they target and the other child or children see that as normal because “mom/dad says they are bad.” So for the daughter to have a different relationship with her mom from Joeys that is understandable. Joey may never be able to have a “normal” relationship because he’s never had one so far in his life.

[@lkayh]

When a 10 yo kid is getting into physical fights with adults, that ought to send up flags that an intervention is needed. That high level of anger at authority figures should trigger a check-in with a school counselor at the very least. Younger kids don’t always understand the concept of death-the permanence of it. It’s not clear whether this boy does or not-seems like he was just hoping to get his mom out of the picture so he could live with someone else. It may not have registered that he was taking a life. Seriously, though, why does this boy have three rifles-and why is he keeping them in his room? If this was a hunting family, I could see designating a rifle for his use at age 10, but always keep all firearms locked up in a way children can’t access without a parent. This is why I don’t understand why 2A nuts have such a problem with requiring basic gun safety courses for gun owners. Clearly some people are clueless and need the education, which should be a prerequisite to taking home a firearm.

[@lkayh]

@@tatsmcgee3712 Right?

[@bracejuice7955]

Violent abusive parents who allow a 10 year old to have multiple firearms just sitting in their room… what a shock that the kid did what he did. I hope he gets the help he needs… and to be honest I hope the mom had a moment of realization before she died

[@wendellgee11]

Asking a family member to fetch firewood on a cold night is not abusive! If the mom was nagging him every day, she was obviously overwhelmed and it wasn't ideal; however, murder isn't the answer. I feel like the village mentality has been lost. The child should've had someone to vent to without criticism and the mom should've had back up to support her. I've witnessed a lot of rage farming from kids today which is extremely unhealthy! And any parent outside of living on a farm, buys a kid guns, WTF?! It breaks my heart to hear that she was so harsh with him. They were both overwhelmed. Where was dad?

[@shayla106]

@@wendellgee11 She wasn’t overwhelmed, she was selfish.

[@wolfe6220]

I grew up in a similar home to Joey's. For everything that was said, you can believe it was 10x worse. I bet he got the full spectrum of abuse: physical, verbal and emotional abuse. Yeah, the kid theoretically knew shooting her might kill her, but the impulsive part of the brain doesnt mature until a decade later. Plus, he saw his parents being physically abusive to each other. If that's all this kid knew, then it's not surprising that his control snapped. And parents are very capable of being nice to one child while the other takes the brunt (and it's usually the youngest). For people saying thousands of kids are abused but they dont kill their parents: not all kids have the same tolerance for pain (physically or emotional). What another person may shrug off, may be overwhelming to someone else. I bet the grandma is the only person who treated Joey in a caring manner.

[@jamesridley8565]

​@@tatsmcgee3712I agree with 💯

[@jamesridley8565]

Y'all just giving this kid an excuse. It couldn't been too abusive if he was allowed to have guns period. Anytime he's willing to fight an adult that kid wasn't afraid of his mother at all. Kids grow up everyday knowing that their parents may favor one over the other it doesn't cause them to kill. I could understand if children services had been called on her before or him showing she had physically abused him. But in all his talking the kid never said his mom had been beating him.

[@wolfe6220]

@@jamesridley8565 Just proves you know zero about childhood abuse. And for that you should thank your lucky stars. I've seen way too many people that it has happened to. And their friends, other family members, teachers, they never had a clue as to what was actually happening.

[@jamesridley8565]

@wolfe6220 i know as much about abuse as u do my friend and I stand by my statement. I had both my sister and brother removed from our family home by the state because of child abuse and parents arrested thank God it was only for a few years went through counseling and everything. Like I said some kids have a hard time dealing with discipline and only harsh reality of consequences can save them.

[@jamesridley8565]

@@tatsmcgee3712 thank you! 💯 Percent 👍

[@leeneufeld4140]

I am a little concerned by the fact that the police continued to question him after he said he wanted a lawyer. All questioning should have stopped at that point.

[@Sandman60077]

I don't think he ever actually asked for one. When questioning a minor most states require a guardian to be present, which his grandmother was, and it would be the guardians responsibility to request an attorney. Different states have different laws though, and laws can change from year to year.

[@alysonbowler9040]

This child was systematically abused throughout his whole life. Even children have a right to defend themselves.

[@jimmymapes3411]

I agree Kabir. Nobody sounds like they are grieving.

[@GenXfrom75]

The kid having access to a firearm is irresponsible parenting at it's finest. Add abuse into that mix, it's a recipe for violence and disaster. I hope he's able to heal.

[@gamesman0118]

Some people should never have a gun.

[@jamesrippy1161]

A lot of times child killers are found to have a deformities or abnormalities in their brain chemistry some parts of the brain that are responsible for the emotions of empathy and sympathy and things like that just don’t work

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

Sadly so many in these comments were obviously never abused as a child. Just assuming the kid is the psycho and the mom didn't play a role. It's an insult to us abuse victims who know full well what its like to have an abusive parent and having dangerous thoughts because you feel stuck with them.

[@nanner3200]

Mom most likely played a role. A big one....but for a 10 yr old to have 3 (that we know of) rifles in his bedroom? That's as messed up as mom. This whole story is really messed up.

[@gwenna1161]

abused kids do have a breaking point. if his mother was abusive all his life... it had to be pretty bad for him to make it stop at 10

[@jamesridley8565]

Someimes kids are problematic from the start and does not matter how u have raised them period. The fact is some kids are bad seeds, they just come out wrong and it takes prayer and God to save them.

[@ChronicF]

This kid was abused by his mother. Even the grandmother said she was really hard on the kid. Since he’s getting that treatment day in and day out with no one advocating for him or even trying to help him get out of that situation, he was overwhelmed and this was his only solution to make her stop. Is it right? No, but the kid was definitely being abused. It’s not that he was just a bad kid and the fact that you don’t see that is concerning

[@rittherugger160]

Kabir, 10 years is plenty of time to do enough damage to someone that they become a killer.

[@nanner3200]

Totally agree......but the guns sure didn't help

[@PaolaBarrientos]

A 10 year old doesn't know how to reason he reacts.

[@kimson305]

If this kid was black you wouldn't be saying this. He knew enough to pull the trigger

[@ChefDeCuisine_Bubba]

Ok at 10 years old I got a 410 shotgun for my birthday, and we went squirrel and rabbit hunting. At 12: years old I got a .22 Lr marlin, and we did the same. At 14 years old I got a 12 gauge, and went dove hunting. At 16 I got a Winchester leaver action 1894 in 30. 30. Went deer hunting.. at 22 years old I was handed an M-16 A2 by my government and told to hunt bad guys..... Those who are raised with weapons in their hands usually don't turn the weapons on another human because they understand the implication of once you pull the trigger there's no calling the the bullet back and they've seen the devastation that that firearm can actually do

[@jwb52z9]

Kabir, too many Americans have so many firearms that they don't bother to lock them up. Rural kids are often raised to use all kinds of firearms, unfortunately. It's why you see those creepy family pictures where everyone is armed.

[@MaRodney07]

I recognize that narrator anywhere...that's Explore With Us (EWU)...they have more than 1 channel and there's SO much that you could easily spiral down a rabbit hole and some of it is absolutely horrifying

[@brandonaston301]

The fact a 10 year old had loaded rifles sitting in his room. Gun laws in the US are a joke

[@lynrossi8409]

Of course killing your mother sounds like a bad thing. But that's from a normal life perspective. I grew up in foster care because of abuse. I was removed from my mother's care before I was 5 years old. I've struggled with mental and emotional issues my whole life. While I'm able to recognize triggers and use avoidance or coping mechanisms, I'm able to identify with this kid. You can hear the despair in his voice. You can hear that he felt things had been building until they just spilled over. I think he just wanted the mental anguish to end and how does a child force his mom to get off his back already? This was never going to end well. If he hadn't shot her, he might have shit someone else or even himself. When you speak and noone listens, you turn to actions. You walk on eggshells in hopes you won't set her off and you wish you were invisible. High stress and anxiety over sustained periods breaks you. Honestly, I don't think think kid had a chance for a normal, happy life. Lord be with this child!

[@wendellgee11]

A firearm his mom bought him....disgusting!

[@dianecomly6132]

Tragic, just Tragic

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

Within the first few seconds of seeing him on the bodycam, you already could read the room and Joey. You could tell this was a case of an abusive person finally causing someone to kill. Seen it all to often. Including a parent being killed by a child. And in most cases the child indeed has anger issue from being raised by a toxic/abusive parent. So really while Joey killed her, the mom literally brought it on herself by being how she was. Thus letting him only know how to become anxious, then aggressive and then kill. As for the lack of anyone showing any real emotion (aside from Joey a bit), also normal. Everyone is used to the abuser and if something happens, they don't really feel much. While it was terrible what he did, its ultimately to common of a scenario. He probably will lead a better life now in some ways. But of course he will have to live with the fact he killed his mom regardless. My ex friends mom was bipolar and made him do everything. He had rage issues and had no social cues that most had. He couldn't wait until he had money as an adult to leave his parents and be free. I myself had an abusive mom growing up. There were times I wish he would die for sure. Would I do it to her though? I thought about it. But never would do it. Mainly because I was a late teen by that point and knew it was wrong to even think that way.

[@WhodatLucy]

As of August 2011, Joseph McVay has been deemed not competent to stand trial, because he does not fit the legal definition of competence. Joseph was evaluated by two psychologists who stated at the time that he is mentally unfit to stand trial for his mother's murder. They said Joseph suffers from anxiety and depression, he has a learning disability, and he has trouble talking about his mother's death, which impairs his ability to communicate with his lawyers for his defense. Both of the psychologists agreed that Joseph would benefit from counseling.

[@jamesridley8565]

The kid just has a problem with authority period. He doesn't like been told what to do.

[@ViolentKisses87]

Lots of kids have firearms in their room in the US. It's exceedingly rare for this to become an issue.

[@TreyM1609]

Yup I had a .22 and a .410 shotgun when I was 7. And yes they were locked in the rack but I had a key. The only reason it was locked was because I had a 3 year old brother.

[@kikibigbangfan3540]

The father knew that the mother was abusive but didn't try to take the kids away from an abusive situation. Just sit there and let it fester to the point your child commits murder. What?!

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

That is a good point. But the mom may have been one of those people that if you reported her, she would just kill her kids to retaliate. Hence os many spouses (and kids) won't turn in their own parent. The abusive parent threatens things if you do. Though I will say, the dad sounded like he was drunk or didn't care much really.

[@NolmDirtyDan]

A kid having a firearm here ion America is not all that uncommon, they were hunting rifles, tons of kids are properly trained to handle firearms here in America

[@dougbowers4415]

Clearly because of his history of anger issues he shouldn’t have had access to guns. Just because its common for kids to have access to guns doesn’t make it right.

[@btnhstillfire]

I dont know any kid that had them in their rooms to be accessed at any time. Even hunters kids have their guns locked away until they head out to use them. You dont have a fn gun sitting on your 10 year olds wall. Nobody does that shit. At least nobody w a brain.

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

Especially since it looks like they lived in a rural area. Probably were hunters.

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

@@dougbowers4415 Well given the fact the mom was nuts, she obviously didn't care if he had a gun or not.

[@jamesridley8565]

Please 😏, how abusive could mother be to allow him to keep loaded guns in his room. Parents butting heads with their kids that doesn't give kids the right to take them out. The kid has anger issues period.

[@hocuspocus5481]

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[@WhodatLucy]

In in Louisiana children that have reached the age of 10 can be charged with a crime. The courts can decide if a child can be charged as an adult when it comes to murder if there was an a tent, doctors will decide if the child was incapable of determining right from wrong in determining if he will go into a hospital type prison or into a regular prison for murder.

[@Sandman60077]

It's not hard to see what happened here. The type of people they are, they way they lived. I have a feeling it's the type of household where yelling was the primary source of communication and everybody blamed everyone else for everything. It sounds like mom was lazy and didn't want to do the things a parent in the household should be doing, so she would yell at the kids to do the things she should be doing.

[@kimson305]

So that's a reason to kill a parent? Tell us your white without saying your white

[@manicmisfit1206]

Exactly. I'm sure the mother was just sitting on the couch all day smoking cigarettes, watching tv, and yelling at the kids to do all the chores she should be doing.

[@bracejuice7955]

They let a 10 year old have multiple guns in his room.. they probably thought of .22s as a starter rifle for kids. Trash.

[@lynnegulbrand2298]

People do things they probably wouldn’t do if they weren’t enraged to the point they want to kill. It’s a sad situation for the whole family. She may have bullied him and he snapped. So tragic for the boy and the whole family. I remember the James Bulger murder that those 2 10 year olds in England. They didn’t serve much time until they were set free. I know one of them ended up back in jail, can’t remember why. Do you remember that murder. What those boys did to that lovely 2 year old was atrocious and turned my stomach. They were the kind of boys that tortured animals for fun, just sick. Can you do a report on that. Please, there’s probably some people that don’t know about it.

[@dougbowers4415]

It sounds like the whole family is screwed up. The fact that he had access to the guns is a huge problem.

[@TreyM1609]

Not true at all. I had a gun when I was 7. Yes it was kept on a rack that was locked but I had a key for it. It was locked up because my little brother was 3 at the time.

[@patshore4359]

Off topic....you have the most beautiful skin! Love your voice too

[@dlinkster]

He really does.

[@kikibigbangfan3540]

I don't know if the mother was as abusive as Joey made her out to be. The daughter didn't seem to have any major issues, nor did the Grandma. Maybe Joey was just not all there and right in the head. And this is the end result. Remember he acted out in school against authority figures as well. This isn't just him to his mother rage. It's to anyone that forcibly tells him what to do rage. That is really dangerous.

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

When you bipolar sometimes your meaner to certain people. She also could have hated men, as she seemed to abuse her own husband.

[@kikibigbangfan3540]

@@ThatShyGuyMatt we're out here diagnosing people now. No thank you. Or maybe the whole family dynamic was screwed up....who knows. But one thing for sure, this situation is 100% messed up. If you're right, then how come she didn't seem to exhibit signs of hatred towards men she worked with?

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

@@kikibigbangfan3540 Because nuts are good at keeping their private lives separate. My abuse mom, her father was molested my mom and the other kids in the family. He also abused them physically. But not a single person knew about it until after he died of old age. They just knew him as a very friendly guy who was down to earth.

[@wolfe6220]

@@ThatShyGuyMatt That described my parents to a t. If my classmates had rolled up my sleeve or pants leg one inch, they would have seen nothing but bruises and welts under my clothes.

[@cripplious]

Juvenile detention is for ages until 18. The court might send him to a psych ward

[@WhodatLucy]

After the night of the shooting, Joseph had been staying in the Richland County Juvenile Detention facility. In August 2013, Judge Thomas Lee ordered him to continue his stay at the residential treatment facility so he wouldn't face any setbacks with his therapy. Currently, no new trial date has been set and Joseph McVay's whereabouts are unknown; it's unclear if he is still in the legal system or if he has been released. His father gave him the six guns that he inherit from his grandfather

[@cs5384]

That part they're talking about "Joey's past" he was a kindergartener/first grader when those incidents happened. Little kids sometimes do things like this. My daughter decided she didn't like school anymore and just walked out and they didn't know she was gone until we found her. My son is autistic and he got in trouble for refusing to take off his backpack and screaming at the bus driver. This shouldn't even be part of this. It's just added to make him look like he had such a violent past. A kindergartener got in to an "altercation" with a bus driver? Come on. That's what frustrates me about these shows, it's exploiting kids and victims' families for entertainment. You don't get the real story, just what they want to include for affect.

[@jamesridley8565]

U could make that same argument for his mother who is no longer alive to defend herself. Besides most people in this comment section are eager to overlook his sister's statement and she was there!

[@ChronicF]

@@jamesridley8565the sister was also an adult and some parents actually focus their attention on a specific kid. Could be he reminded her too much of his dad so she took it out on him. This actually happens a lot, to the point where the other kids are desensitized to it because try here now convinced the kid is just bad cuz that’s what the mother kept saying. I’m taking that with a grain of salt because one, the grandmother even said the mom was way too hard on the kid and 2, she doesn’t live there anymore. She an adult and gone.😊

[@TaeAlpine121]

Give him life

[@josephheitzmann7745]

Strange..Same last name as the Oklahoma bomber..Timothy McVay

[@BeccaM24]

They go to Juvie usually until their 25 then their records are sealed.

[@jamesigorreilly979]

He’s going to do at least 30 years before any type of parole or probation ❤

[@carolinagallegos3926]

Seems to me that everybody involved in this boys life let him down!!

[@pamelahoracek]

Guns in the bedroom of a 10-year-old, I think certain areas in the south where hunting is common (I assume the parents discuss the dangers of guns and how and when to use them. Also, reality is not like the cartoons, the person who gets shot does not sit up and everything is okay the next day). I think about the sounds of the voices of the family members, I believe the police try to interview the witnesses and the criminal as soon as they can for better memory abilities. Sometimes after a crime/death, the people might be in shock and have not come to terms of losing a family member. The police can interview the people, especially the suspect for hours to break them down and tell the truth. Unfortunately, breaking them down, they might give an untruth to make the interview stop by admitting guilt. Anyone in that situation, just ask for an attorney. Supposedly, the police interview has to stop. I can see blame with poor parenting skills or mental illness, not talking to the kid and work with them than yelling at each other or calling each other names. I can understand the frustration of a kid in the home being punished or yelled at and taking their aggression to people outside the home, since they would not hit the parent. This family probably was not too shocked by the events but did not ever think it would go that far in the causing of death. The grandmother was the boy's paternal grandmother because she had the same last name as the father. This family needed a plan. Family therapy, time out for the kid and mother to cool down before discussing the issue, maybe grandmother taking the kid out of the house overnight to calm him down and talk to him. I assume he was tried as an adult since after he reaches a certain age, he will continue his punishment in adult men's prison. It seems after a psychologist can clear him and feels he is not a danger to himself and others, knows how to handle his frustrations and hopefully not allowed to own a firearm, he can be released from jail. Today, the kid does not want to talk about the incident, and I do not think he will be leaving the jail until he can face the reason why he is in jail and what he did with his mother. I hope the sister got some psychological help with her witnessing the death of her mother and feeling her brother could have shot her that night. She is a strong girl with a good head on her shoulders, to look at her brother, say do not shoot her and put the gun down. If she got crazed, he might have shot her to stop the sister yelling, arguing like his mother did to him before she was shot. If he shot the sister, maybe he could have used an insanity defense and get a lesser jail time, especially the witnesses on his home life with his mother.

[@kennethmasters9329]

I had guns in my room growing up got my first .22 at 8 yrs. old and I had gun rack in my truck and used to take guns to School all the time in my truck right in the open. This was in the mid to late 80's graduated in 88 of course so different times.

[@jimmymapes3411]

Well you know he did have to carry wood in.

[@alysonbowler9040]

He behaved exactly as abused spouses do when they reach their breaking point. This child had literally no other way out. At least with an abused spouse, they are legally able to leave. Joey had no choice but to stay with his abuser. What was he supposed to do - run away and make a life for himself at age 10? He probably knew that even juvie would be a better option than his abuser.

[@reneehomen2226]

I dont know why doctors are reluctant to label a child a sociopath, but they do exist. Who gives access to a rifle to a ten year old????

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

A product of his mother. She brought it on herself. Looks like the typical lazy fat trailer trash mom who abuses kids because she hates her own life. As for who gives a kid a gun, in America this is normal. Especially if you live in the middle of no where and hunt stuff.

[@bbqujeh]

year old kid in Montgomery Alabama carjacked a women, and lead police on a chase.

[@wonderweasle2212]

Kids fight wars at 10. It's not un heard of for one to be responsible with a weapon. This one just wasnt

[@janetmoreno8909]

I think they go to juvie correctional facility until they're of age then they go to adult prison.

[@cripplious]

If its America. There are areas where kids gets a gun as soon as they can walk.

[@randalmayeux8880]

Hi Kabir! Good reaction. I had my own .22 rifle when I was 8, though I wasn't allowed to use it without supervision, still it and the ammo were in my closet. I didn't have abusive parents, sure I'd get whacked with a belt once in a while if I did something really stupid or dangerous, but it never ever crossed my mind to shoot my parents (or siblings). This kid though was a different story, I could see why he finally snapped. Hope he turns out OK.

[@raylewis2121]

Intermittent explosive disorder

[@XRP2020]

Texan here; didn't start hunting whitetail deer till I was 13. Lil bro shot first whitetail while he was 5yrs old. Yes, we own a plethora of weapons but everything's locked up. Not judging this family but we're all HUMAN. Lock up your guns!!!!

[@laurataylor8717]

I don't know how old you have to be to go to juvie. We have a place near me my friends and I call baby jail. It's so weird because there are dorms, school building, a church, play areas surrounded with barbed wire fences.

[@fannybuster]

Maybe they have a baby electric chair too, Joey needs to test it out

[@josecarbajal5710]

Murica. Got guns everywhere. You never know when u gotta need one.

[@George-ux6zz]

This seems like a messed up family.

[@jesseford2213]

They're not to young for juve bro. That's for kids

[@Benjifan2000]

I dont even blame the kid because it sounds like the mom had it coming.

[@BadAssSykO]

What a horrible thing to say. If she needed any type of punishment, it should have been up to law enforcement and the court system.

[@kimson305]

Sounds about white. Y'all think y'all mother telling y'all what to do means she should be killed.

[@Boodieman72]

Sounds like he was abused and he had enough.

[@sherryheim5504]

The kid is obviously not sorry and if he hadn't had a hunting rifle, he would have probably stabbed her to death. He is a kid with a lot of rage and should have already been placed in some kind of care. I highly doubt that this was the first time he showed violent behavior. He is not too young for Juvenile Hall, but because of the nature of his crimes, he will probably go to special confinement in a high security prison. I grew up around guns because my dad was a police officer so his duty gun was always accessible and he wore a small pistol at all times. Those were the rules back then. We all knew better than to touch my dad's guns, we also all knew gun safety and how to shoot, and care for guns. Being from a country that prohibits gun ownership or at least discourages it, it may seem strange but a weapon is a weapon and the only danger is when someone has a disregard for human life, not how many knives, swords, cars or guns are in their home or area. You either teach your children to respect people or you don't and their behavior will reflect that. If you live rurally in the US, chances are very good that there will be a rifle for defending your property against invaders, be they large animals like boar, bear, mountain lions, wolves, coyotes or even rattlesnakes or human predators, in some areas even alligators can be a threat. If one of those creatures are between you and your child, trying to get to a gun safe and load your rifle would probably result in the loss of the life of your child. Even moose and elk can be very aggressive, a bear will break a window and enter your home. A fox can wreak havoc on a farmers chickens or rabbits so it is common practice to have a loaded rifle where it is accessible. There is a lot of wilderness in the US and a lot of scary animals, I have seen many myself. Unfortunately, this is not as unique of a situation as you might think. Kids kill people all the time and even their parents or grandparents.

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

But the kids usually do so because of the parents treatment.

[@lynnegulbrand2298]

Seems like she was a bully and he had some mental issues. Tragic situation all around. I hope he gets some guidance in jail and some good medication.

[@lindarogers2271]

Kabir this was a bad case of mental abuse . It sounds as if he was used as the family punching bag and slave . Then calling him names when he doesn't move fast enough .

[@ozzy7109]

He will go to juvenile prison

[@videogamevalley7523]

……honestly….idk what to say……

[@xenotbbbeats7209]

My mom was way worse than Joey's mom, but none of her four kids tried to kill her, even though I witnessed my mom attempting to kill my sisters. My brother and I stopped her; once, choking out our older sister, and another episode when she was straddling my oldest sister on the kitchen floor with a huge knife to her throat.. In the end, I took care of my obviously severely mentally ill mom when she was declining from advanced age. I think you were right about the apple not falling far from the tree. They both likely have intermittent explosive disorder. It's a myth that children who are abused become abusers. If that was true, all of us, and many of my friends would have been mass murderers.

[@sheerri]

Myth is way too strong of a word. There is a correlation between being abused and becoming an abuser but correlation does not equal causation. Just as it’s too strong to say someone who is abused will definitely become an abuser, it’s also too strong to say someone who is abused will definitely not become an abuser. And while I’m sorry for your situation, not everybody has the same tolerance level for traumatic situations. Everyone will react differently. Some people will snap and kill their abusers while others will not. It’s a case by case basis.

[@theshadowfax239]

Yes, because every human being in the world responds exactly like you do.🙄 Are you really that dense?

[@nwmonk3105]

Police never should have interrogated the child to illicit a confession without counsel or a guardian being present. That being said, evil is incarnate.

[@copeboy25]

He confessed it without a interrogation in the first 20 seconds and the grandmother was there so a guardian was there

[@JonBroun]

All humans are evil. I have never met one that is not.

[@kimson305]

His grandmother was there so try again

[@gotham61]

Statements made before he is read his Miranda rights are not admissible at trial.

[@Elevatedzebra96]

Boo hoo, so he had it rough at home.. I did too with my military step dad and spent many a night at friends houses, I didn’t find a gun and shoot anyone even though I had a learning disability, bipolar, depression, and anger issues.. me and dad get along fine now.. that kid should never get out..

[@WhodatLucy]

This will depend on how the child was raised. At this point in the case we don’t know if he was abused, or if this was just him, not wanting to get firewoodd

[@mikehunt368]

it’s hard for me to have sympathy when there are guns out in the open and kids around… 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@PenelopeFrank]

Just a side comment: our prisons are not made for reform. They are cruel, torture chambers. If there were far less life without parole sentences, maybe, that changes the psyche of the whole. Then maybe we can actually focus on reform, especially for children. Hope, with or without it, is powerful.

[@Alice-xy3fi]

I had to stop watching, I got so frustrated with your judgment of this kid from the getgo and being, this being virtual, unable to sit down and discuss it with you. So instead I'll just vent, with apologies in advance.. First, as at least one other commenter has pointed out, most, if not all, kids this age are not capable of anything like the adult concept, of death, murder, or even consequences. Second, people do things for two reasons: heredity and environment. If it's heredity, he cannot be blamed. That is, this kid was born with some kind of brain disorder or something else that predisposed or caused him to behave in this way, then he is no more to blame for that inheritance that he could be blamed or held responsible, for being born with webbed toes, brown eyes, autism, blonde hair. And being 10 years old--and especially given what his upbringing sounds like (at least as far as I watched)-- he hasn't the maturity/ tools/help/experience/understanding etc. to have the wherewithal to control whatever disoder, etc. he might have, assuming it's even been diagnosed, and assuming it's potentially within his control, unlike, say, certain brain disorders. He may not have even been introduced to the concept of self-control (again, esp. given what his background sounded like so far as I watched.) If it's not heredity, it's got to be environment, right? So generally, whenever we hear about a child committing some shocking act of violence or cruelty, if this is not due to something they were born with (or without, as in the case of sociopaths born without a conscience, a capacity for empathy, and more), we need, imho, to work on the assumption that something has gone seriously wrong in the conditions that formed the child since the child's birth-- whether it was being dropped on their head as an infant (I seem to recall a study of prisoners that indicated this was far more common among convicted felons than among members of the general population), being physically abused, or being mentally/emotionally abused (although the officer asking, after being told about the mother's screaming, ask, whether she'd ever been seen being physically violent may--or may not--have believed that her physical violence might have been some kind of explanation for the boy's action, anyone who's experienced emotional violence, especially prolonged emotional violence, and has any self-insight, knows how profoundly damaging and distorting it can be, and the desperation and rage it can engender, such that it can equal and perhaps even exceed the effects of, and the reaction elicited by, phsical violence. None of which most, if any, ten year olds are equipped to understand or deal with, at least not without excellent and intensive assistance, and even then there's certainly no guarantee. So although it may of course be necessary to contain a child, in order to protect others and to (would that it worked this way more often) give him what he didn't get from his environment in order to develop into good citizen, a conrributing member of society, a moral and kind person capable of living up to his full potential, what he did cannot be deemed his fault. It is always a case of his being either a victim of his genes (or some kind of accident in the birthing process) or of his environment (not necessarily the parental aspect of his environment, as seems to be the case with this child, but whatever it was that led him to behave as he did). And now let the "Snowflake" hurling begin...

[@JonBroun]

I know of quite a few children that have access to their own fire arms. Some of these gun rights, far right lunitucs are nuts

[@NickAtNite666]

And some of the far left lunatics are even nuttier

[@reneerollins4433]

Aren't you special. You automatically know that they are "far right lunatics " because they own firearms.

[@raylewis2121]

GOP: one less voter

[@dlinkster]

I'm sorry, but my parents were mean, but I never wanted to kill them. I wanted to run away at times, but that was about it. That little psycho supposedly pointed the gun at Shawna. I feel absolutely no sympathy for Joey. Maybe I'm just desensitized or something, but my tolerance for people ends when they decide to kill.

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

You were obviously not abused then. If you were, you would realize how easy it is to want to kill an abuser.

[@dlinkster]

@@ThatShyGuyMatt first, I never said I was abused. I just said they were mean. Second, people who think like that are psychotic. Sure, if someone really abused someone like Gabriel Fernandez or worse is probably one of the few times that I would ever want a child to murder their parents.

[@pennymcneela7095]

I could tell a story what my grandson has done to me, I'll just tell a few snippets. Firstly, I've raised my grandson from the age of 7mths, he had so many congenital deformities through his mother's life style. Once my g-son became 9/10 he started to manipulate and controlled me, has another year or two passed by I knew what he was doing and had to put a end to it there and then. I wasn't abusive towards him, yet he was abusive towards me. He would punch all my doors in and throw things at me, I remember one time where he threw half a brick at my head, I questioned him why he did that ?, he replied, I haven't done anything, he also said prove it was me, I couldn't because I was walking in front of him. When I reversed psychology I had the better of him, he was losing control, he couldn't control me anymore. To cut the story short, in october 2019 at the age of 16 my boy was assessed for Autism, yes, my boys was diagnosed with Autism which explained a lot of his behaviour through his adolescent years. And today I'm still in control and he's 18 in 2 months. Some times it's better to work with a child than being against them...

[@valkyrie1066]

Ugh. So much wrong here.

[@fanny_g]

That was waaaaaaay in 2011 knowing these chumps he's probably back out on the street.

[@solomoon3083]

Whatever anyone is, they were born to be. That is why there are flukes in all studies. You are born to be whatever it is that ya are.

[@Whoozerdaddy]

Dude, your constant questions to the video are *_really_* aggravating. You must be a treat to go to the movies with.

[@katw3070]

I agree. He interrupts too much. Annoying.

[@ASaaaxxx]

Errr how did anyone so young commit murder. … have you forgotten the child killers here in the Uk ???? John Venrables and Robert Thompson both 10 when they killed the 2 year old James Bulger ????

[@sweetdulcesunshinenyc]

The compassion empathy that the cops have towards that boy would not happen if he was a non Caucasian...they would not asked anything..they, the police would've escalated the situation plus gotten aggressive even shoot...it's so shocking how the police are so gentle kind with the child murderer as they do with mass shooters (which the police have taken the mass shooter to burger King to eat)..