🇬🇧BRIT Reacts To A KILLER WHOSE VICTIMS HAD TO PLAY HIS EVIL GAME!

[@wandahenry3606]

The murderer lived 3 miles from my house and my friend used to babysit the children. Mr. Hansen owned a bakery. So, being afraid to go with a “photographer” in the years spreading from 1971-1983 was considered an “opportunity”! Back then, hitch hiking across America was a mode to see the world for the free spirited. Hansen died just a few years ago while remaining incarcerated here in Alaska!

[@katharrell3737]

So many things fell into place to solve this. Cindy was absolutely amazing!!! So brave, to keep her wits about her to remember all of the details in the midst of such terror. John Douglas is such a hero of mine.

[@cattfink5036]

Personally, I would never ever consent to a polygraph. Not ever. "Lie detector" is a misnomer. Polygraph is unreliable at best and examiners and technicians are human so...ya know. Declining one of these should be viewed with no more suspicion than someone refusing "truth serum" or a punch in the face for honesty!

[@TheresaGreenwald]

Agreed. And she shouldn't have to be treated like she's the criminal. That was really upsetting.

[@NurglesFavoured]

@@TheresaGreenwald she wasn't they just stopped believing her. I have no idea where you pulled that from

[@TheresaGreenwald]

@@NurglesFavoured from the video. Guess you missed that part or didn't find it troubling that they asked a victim to take a polygraph like they would a criminal.

[@LA_HA]

@@TheresaGreenwald [Edited] I may be wrong, but I took it to be that the test was less about treating her like a criminal and more about making sure she wasn't lying for some reason or to solidify their belief in her story to have the proof to move forward. Perhaps with asking the suspect's friends to also take a test to break the alibi to focus on Hanson/Hansen. Police work Must be precise and check all the boxes, dot every i, and cross every t; because criminals walk free on technicalities All. The. Time. And when they do, guess who gets the blame? Of course, I don't blame the victim for getting scared and bailing. But, we don't ever think deeply enough to see things from the polices' point of view. Once she did that, what were they supposed to do or think? Even if they still believed her and understood why she did what she did, all strings attached to her testimony had to be pulled because the evidence of the prosecution has to either be ironclad or meet the definition of beyond reasonable doubt. Especially for murder. Specifically for Murder 1. "Innocent Until Proven Guilty." Remember? This Constitutional Right is the reason why Prosecutors must have a certain amount of evidence Before they even think to take a case to court. Not enough evidence? No court case. Why? Because the Prosecution bears the burden of Proof. Legally, the accused doesn't have to say a single word. It's just like The Joker (or some arch villain) said, he never has to follow the law or any rule of society or personal honor. The good guys, however, are bound hand and foot by the laws, rules, and honor. The good guys are fighting a war with significant disadvantages. It's a game of Cat and Mouse where the mouse is hunting the cat. Anyone who died after the victim left town...well, that was rotten luck. The police were still investigating the case, doing what they could, but they're starting over because everything they had left the State in fear. We civilians make a Lot of assumptions and treat the police like psychics and fictional movie characters that don't have to answer to real questions or face real life repercussions for their actions. We blame the good guys and have a high level of disdain for them when we, the public, have no idea what we're talking about, how anything works, couldn't do one thing better, and wouldn't be able to pass the exam and physical to be police officers and detectives even if it would ever cross our minds to try to put our own safety ahead of everyone else's. But, as I said, maybe I'm wrong

[@xzonia1]

@@LA_HA Polygraph test results are not admissible evidence in a court of law in the US because they are so unreliable, so there is nothing gained by any witness in agreeing to take one. It's just a form of police harassment, honestly. While usually it can help get a criminal to confess, it does nothing positive to give a witness a polygraph test. She was right to refuse, and I wouldn't agree to one either if ever asked, and I'm as Pollyanna squeaky clean as people come.

[@badgodsit]

This is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of what I meant in the comments of your death row episode, about how the particular crimes and the victims (or families of victims) left behind should be considered when doling out the punishment. Many people want to have conversations about the morality of capital punishment, but what’s always lacking from that discussion is the victims and what they endured. Should taxpayers really be meant to pay for the food and boarding and to keep alive a man like this? What has he ever done to prove that he should have the benefit to live amongst anyone? Some of the families left behind feel very strongly about religion and redemption and don’t believe in anyone other than God passing judgment. And I feel like that should be taken into account. But if we are strictly talking about the victims, they had no voice and no opportunity to live out their life. So why should he get those privileges that he denied other human beings? Its just one of those moments (like you, yourself Kabir have said) where if you had been the father of the victim, just give me one hour alone with him. It’s a lot to think about. 😔

[@karyngreen5840]

This was a very insightful review and I appreciate it. I also agree with your opinion and am like minded 👍

[@Adplusamequalsadam]

Studies have said over 4% of people sentenced to death in the United States might be innocent. The death penalty cost millions and could cost more than keeping them alive, many will want to be dead anyway after the prisoners find out what they did.

[@TheresaGreenwald]

A victim shouldn't have to be treated like the guilty party. He should have been the one given the lie detector. She's a traumatized victim. And a teen at that. The police were wrong for that and so the further deaths are on them as much as him AND his piece of shit friends who covered up for a rapist murderer.

[@kimberlyrice4294]

Kabir, unfortunately many, many of the kids that run away from home are eventually seen as easy prey for pimps on the street, who do this for a living and know just how to get them hooked, and keep them forced into continued sex work. A disproportionately high number of unsolved, unidentified female bodies are believed to be prostitutes, and unless it’s a serial killing spree, they just don’t get the polices attention or time need to solve these cases. So, feel sorry for them, yes, but don’t go thinking it’s usually “their choice” to be there. It’s life’s circumstance and a lack of options and means.

[@diannen4225]

NEVER GO ALONE WITH ANYONE!!!

[@IcePurpleX]

The two officers that didn't believe the girl who escaped should also have gone jail because of their failures more innocent girls got killed and hurt because they actually believed his loose alibi, Even though everything that girl said about what he looked like,his home and all the other overwhelming evidence she gave, Like I said any and all officers that didn't believe her story after such massive evidence should have gone jail for being so bad at their job and for failing to actually do a proper home investigation, like how the fuck they didn't fund the basement is beyond me, pure trash police over their Jesus Christ, So many dead because of crap police who don't know how to do their jobs, This one actually made me so angry

[@Bjwuv]

John Douglas has written many books explaining how the fbi comes up with criminal profiles. He is one of the founders of the BAU and wrote the book Mindhunter that the Netflix series is based off of. His books are fascinating

[@danajohnson4757]

Kabir .... try to look at Cindy's POV. She had just been horribly victimized/violated and you go to the police expecting to be believed and the perpetrator to be arrested, only to have others saying he didn't and the police now looking at you possibly lying. At this point I'm sure she didn't feel safe and probably felt violated all over again! I can understand why she just wanted out of there.

[@xzonia1]

Agreed

[@brandonwolfe7644]

Mr. Ballen is so good. Truly horrifying but intriguing content. Kabir you are the sh!t too. I would love more reactions like this. Keep up the great work friend.

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks Brandon :) more on the way!

[@Sota_Pops]

They made a movie based on this story called"The Frozen Ground" that starred Nicholas Cage, John Cusack, and Vanessa Hudgens. It was pretty good

[@stingtail9787]

I really enjoy you posts.thoughtful & reserved good on u mate.

[@lonerangerak5232]

They made a movie about him . It’s called The Frozen Ground with Nicholas Cage and John Cussack . They filmed it here in Anchorage and its a good movie .

[@kimberlyrice4294]

I once read a book by an infamous FBI profiler about serial killers, and it scared the shit out of me. You have to think that, for the killer, this is like a full-time job. It’s an obsession and all they think about. So the planning, the preparation, the unbelievable lengths they’ll go to to set up a scenario where they get you at a disadvantage, ie a fake cast trying to carry his puppy food to his fan for his new puppies - who wouldn’t help him? Then he gets the side door open for you to set down the groceries and Bamm! You start to turn around and he cold-cocks you or tasers you and you’re Out! There is nothing you can do! That was paraphrased from the longer version but it always stuck in my mind about how they know they need their prey to trust them - sometimes even for just a minute - but when they’ve got you, they’ve got you. So hell yes, you better run, scream, grab eyes, kick him, hurt him, Anything can be a weapon if you look around! And for god sakes, after he’s out, don’t drop your weapon and stand there, mind numb, & waiting to see if he’s going to wake up! It’s fight or flight, man! Do one!

[@kbbeers4274]

He’s known as the Butcher Baker here in Alaska. As many mentioned, the movie Frozen Ground was based on him.

[@NancyElizabeth-n9n]

FBI Profilers are the best. It’s amazing what they can tell you about a perp. I’ve seen shows where they describe the car they may drive or facial features etc. it’s crazy.

[@briankirchhoefer]

They made a movie about this serial killer called "Frozen Ground" . Pretty good movie too.

[@g.r.rent.345]

The inventor of the lie detector even said it was ment as a party thing and not to be taken seriously by law enforcement

[@jimmyrodela5515]

Hello Kabir again, they were called the "Gainesville Murders "👍❤🇺🇲

[@planthungry]

I'm so addicted to mrBallen's channel. It's so good.

[@Serenity_Dee]

when teenagers turn to sex work of this super risky kind, it's literally because it's the least bad option they can find. for whatever reason, maybe because their parents are abusive, maybe they're in the foster system and cannot trust foster parents, maybe because they're LGBTQIA+. in fact, unhoused youths, especially those who support themselves through sex work, are disproportionately LGBTQIA+, with a particular bias towards transgender youth. (This is a trend that continues into adulthood, sometimes even more disproportionately towards trans women in particular.)

[@hannabertrand4460]

I read all of Douglas' books and he is way more fascinating and brilliant than any of the serial killers he helped find. The studder is usually something that he associates with awkwardness and lack of confidence, especially around women. There was one case where he told law enforcement the unsub would drive an orange VW and he was right.

[@pollypocket3508]

10:43 it's not a picture of her. When Mr. Ballen has a real picture of a person or place, at the top or bottom of the picture, he will put: (Real picture of person/place).

[@towanda2947]

He's one of the few I trust n brilliant story telling✌️♥️

[@greggwilliamson]

John Douglas has authored several books and I've read a couple. The one that talks about this case among others is "Mindhunter". I've read it and one other named "Journey Into Darkness" where he talks about OJ Simpson, John Lennon, and others, including child killers. I think he did Jeffrey Dahmer in this one. He basically invented profiling.

[@tracialx]

Mr ballen is the goat storyteller, keep them fire reactions comin 🔥

[@ellenlanderson]

Woo-hoo first one here. You and Mr Balien are my favorite video hosts.

[@christopherhoy5916]

It’s a movie on Netflix called The Frozen Ground, with Nic Cage, John Cusack, and Vanessa Hudgenson (Idk how to spell her name right now.). Really good movie. Sad it was based on this video.

[@Serenity_Dee]

this case was the basis for one of the most memorable and terrifying murderers in the TV series Cold Case

[@Serenity_Dee]

that still of a dude in a hoodie silhouetted by a backlight is from Cold Case

[@xzonia1]

I saw a movie a few years ago called The Frozen Ground about a serial killer killing prostitutes in Alaska, and how this guy killed women is pretty much how it happened in the movie, so I think that movie was based off of his murders. Might be a good movie for you to react to.

[@ScottMaresh]

Check out the Green River Killer, Gary Ridgeway from my area, Washington State. Unbelievable stuff.

[@Thetequilashooter1]

“What a POS” Exactly!

[@carolyn512]

Criminal profiling is such an interesting science. If you can, watch a series called Mind Hunter. It’s up your alley and lays out how profiling came about. It’s on Netflix in the US.

[@xzonia1]

I really wish Netflix would return and finish that series. It was incredible.

[@carolyn512]

@@xzonia1 I couldn’t agree more!!

[@fionnmaccumhaill3257]

The made a movie about this with John Cusack, Nicolas Cage, Vanessa Hudgens and 50¢. It's definitely worth the watch. It's called "The Frozen Ground".

[@lkayh]

Keep in mind this was a very young woman in an illegal profession, and she likely engaged in other illegal activities, like drugs. She had everything to lose if the cops decided to look into her life. So of course she didn’t want to take a polygraph, and of course she got out of there when it was clear that a) the cops were looking more closely at her, and b) her attacker was free to find her and kill her. There was a TV docudrama about this guy, with some of the stories re-enacted, and I think the pictures you wondered about are stills from that show.

[@sharistevens7755]

All I have to say is wow. Well done, thank you!

[@nightdog8910]

Since the beginning of time mankind have done some horrible things to each other . Slavery, torture, death living in the 21 century is not going to change anything. Even when you hear stories like this in today time you are reminded the fact that its an sad part of reality.

[@stevebrewer5470]

If you're interested In this twisted story,Kabir, there's a movie about it called "The Frozen Ground" starring Nicholas Cage and John Cusack. It's quite good.

[@dillowman8]

Again, Ball-In. Like a ball you throw. Ball-In

[@newgrl]

Unless the picture is specifically marked as "real" in MrBallen videos (like the one of the hunting trophy room), it's most likely not a photo from the crime. He usually uses photos just for description. I've seen many many stills used from "The Walking Dead" and other movies and television shows.

[@dsgm10]

I am totally addicted to this man's stories.

[@kathyjenkins8920]

There is a movie with Nicolas Cage and John Cusak called The Frozen Ground about this killer. It was made in 2013 and is a pretty good movie though I don’t know how much creative license they take. It’s worth a watch.

[@euginate1344]

This story is quite analogous to Robert Pickton in British Columbia.

[@mansoryO]

the photos are from a dramatic recreation by a show called the FBI files. its on youtube. its called "model killer"

[@marygeiger7409]

Alaska is our biggest, most beautiful state. Worst crime rate.

[@melrest3453]

There is a movie about this. Can’t remember the name but John Cusack plays the killer.

[@aaliyah7792]

In Alaska, the death penalty is illegal however to make up for that a life sentence is 50-100 years. I think the death penalty should be allowed but they got rid of it in the 50s. This story is a warning children get told in Alaska so they don't end up getting kidnapped raped or killed. -an Alaskan

[@alliea9613]

I love watching you and Mr Ballen, so watching you watch him is amazing. Also if you like to read check out John E. Douglas's book Mindhunter Inside the FBI's Elite Serial Crime Unit. He talk about this case and how he knew the killer would have a speech impediment. Great video love you both!

[@jacobgiles4712]

Amazing storytelling. It’s just hard to believe there is people around us like that!

[@timhuffmaster3588]

Guys taking pictures of young girls alone rarely turns out well.

[@ogkushnick1121]

The movie Frozen Ground is based on this case.

[@elizabethescalante7866]

Kabir, I don't mean to sound pissy, but most of us don't use the words "probably" or "maybe" in that sentence anymore. We just say "If something seems too good to be true, it IS." Because (at least it's how I feel) saying the words "probably" or "maybe" gives people the false hope or impression that "maybe there is no catch or hidden agenda" when we all know damn well that there is. Because in the real world, NOTHING is that easy and NOTHING is free! And what you said about that stupid neighbor who lied for him is very true. It's called obstruction of justice and, yes, you can get in serious trouble for that. Including jail.

[@Serenity_Dee]

I think the putative photos of Cindy Paulson are from the film adaptation of the story (which gets a lot of things wrong)

[@2WayJdot]

I need more Mr.Ballen

[@wampumscout]

Yeah I have just recently found MrBallen , i have been addicted to his channel all week .

[@Scott65J]

LOVE MrBallen

[@VorchaKali]

I absolutely agree if something sounds to good to be true i would never do it. However if a so called professional photographer/serial killer said the same thing to some inspiring model or actor or something i could see how that ploy would work.

[@joannamcpeak7531]

I can too, but thankfully I had suspicious parents who didn't readily trust just anyone. I inherited their skepticism.

[@jimmyrodela5515]

Hello Kabir from Palm Bay, FL 🌴 👋 I had no idea you did these kinds of videos 👍 I live in Florida and there these 5 students from Gainesville, FL. were murdered in a matter of 5 days which created a panic amongst the state. Don't know if they have a condensed version but that would be cool if you found one ❤ have a wonderful night 😊❤🇺🇲

[@janahumphries3490]

I swear they have turned all of these stories into episodes of Criminal Minds. I have seen all these episodes... horrific

[@ClaireRader]

I agree with others saying they wouldn't do the lie detector test either. They have been known to falsely detect lies and it leaves the person who took the test in trouble with the law for lying to the law enforcement. Even though they didn't.

[@xzonia1]

Exactly. All Kabir has to do is watch that Netflix mini-series Unbelievable to see how cops treat witnesses / victims they don't believe. It's terrifying what happens to some people when the cops just don't believe them. :(

[@Utoober729]

Nooooo!!! 😭😱 Also I read that lots of women are murdered in Alaska. 59% of women there have experienced violence.

[@deenaschilling7085]

Kabir, look up John Douglas..the FBI profiler...his story is amazing!!!

[@carlaleonard5693]

Everything she described was spot on abd the tag number was his so how ypu gonna doubt her over a lie dector test when you know they are not depenable

[@zk97383]

Yes please keep reacting to mrballen

[@charlenemorris5516]

In Alaska they have few police to call

[@charlenemorris5516]

They made so much money it was hard for them to leave.

[@ricky-h1i]

They made a movie from this story it has nick cage and John cuchak

[@AK-American]

This is why I believe in the death penalty

[@spellofoblivion313]

knew you would like him broski ;)

[@laurataylor8717]

This guy again. His videos are interesting and horrifying.

[@karyngreen5840]

Mr 🏀 en is a great storyteller!

[@SansAziza]

My heater just failed. It's 15F (-9C) outside right now. YAY!!! (We'll be fine.) How goes for you, K?

[@joshuabolton3866]

The killer looks like Allen from 2 and a half men

[@sdstewart100]

You really need to do a reaction video from Mr. Ballen titled "this man is the reason the death penalty exists". What this man did is just....disturbing.

[@scotthill1600]

The frozen ground movie about this with Nicholas cage I enjoyed watching, kinda hard to watch knowing the true story tho

[@reneehomen2226]

He is a good story teller. FYI.. he was a Navy Seal. The stories he tells that are so creepy. Is that they are true. Eeeewee.. You're right Kabir. " if it's too good to be true. It usually is,:... oh my gosh. I know this story. It was a baker that flew these women and hunted them like an animal. Was makes my blood boil, is not the women who resort to prostitution. It's the men who seek them out to use and abuse them. There is a documentary about this story. She is a very brave woman. God bless her. I hope her life is better now. John Douglas is the best. He is the pioneer of behavioral profiling..His book is amazing. I hope his life in prison was as terrifying as his victims were.

[@kabirconsiders]

I didn't know that! He must've seen so much being a Seal

[@reneehomen2226]

@@kabirconsiders there is a video he put out telling of his time as a Navy Seal. Really cool.

[@mr.saladman5386]

A new oversimplified video is up, its about america and britain, i think youd like it

[@xenotbbbeats7209]

I think I've heard every story and have seen every crime show that duplicated it.🤣 You ought to find a video on the German guy, Armin Meiwes, who went on social media looking for someone he could eat. A guy named Dieter actually answered Armin's request and they both ate Dieter's penis, and finally, the guy was suffering from blood loss so Armin Meiwes killed him, sliced him up and packaged him like a butcher would, and continued dining on him as he searched the internet for another willing victim. The story is so disgusting, yet fascinating. It absolutely satisfies one's morbid curiosity.

[@starlette570]

Heyyyy there, new subscriber here. Mr. Ballen is fantastic, I've been watching him all year. Are you sure you want to watch his videos before your visit to the U. S.? 😳😂

[@kabirconsiders]

Welcome to the channel :)

[@d1ndad0r95]

Well this is pretty horrifying

[@8cladgamer210]

Keep the mr.ballen coming! I watch his stuff every day or so, and I love your content as well, so both in one place is wonderful. Also it’s ballen like a Ball 🏈 (not an issue just figured I’d mention it)

[@Karli4Sure]

Mr.Ballen tells the stories of horrible things without the really ugly pics…

[@ricky-h1i]

The frozen ground

[@bryang6271]

Do Mr. Ballen - Israel Keyes.

[@noni5961]

Why are you watching this now hey 🤷‍♀️.

[@turtlegirl399]

Was it this guy or another that a movie was based on, I think it was called frozen ground saw the movie a few years ago and something about this story just sounds Familiar.

[@ArtheniaPendragon]

It would be awesome to get your reaction to Rising From The Ashes by the TVG Network. It's a different point of view for the effect and recovery of the California wildfires.

[@tammyharris6645]

If it was a real picture he titles it actual picture

[@tjo3410]

This is why legalization of sex work needs to be the standard, worldwide! You cannot say "oh id just leave the area"...most street level sex workers cannot just leave. Means, money, homelessness, addiction, pimps, etc all stop the protection or even establishing of safe work. Its in fact amazing this young 17yr old even called the police, because what most often happens is she would be arrested for prostitution. Charged. And then released back to the streets. And the cycle continues. Too many sex workers disappear every single day with no one to even notice. That's why they are so often targeted. Legalization can bring so much safety. And can help separate consenting adult sex work Vs trafficking/non-consensual sex work. This is my life's work, the fight for legalization and sex workers rights. Because sex work is real work, and sex workers deserve safe working conditions! I'm also a former sex worker, current owner of 2 adult businesses, a Sexologist, and activist. Stories like these are all too common. :(

[@raymondmoore5476]

Sorry but I totally disagree. She is not brave. There's nothing brave about doing what you have to in order to save your own life. It is simply "do or die". Now as far as going to the airport, his house, areas in the woods he spoke of and face him again, even with the police there, I can agree that it does take some bravery to put yourself in that position. After all, if he were to some how kill the police with her, she's now at his mercy so yeah, bravery in that. But doing anything she has to in order to keep herself alive is not brave, it is self preservation, nothing more, nothing less. Least in my mind.

[@LA_HA]

Raymond Moore: Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems that there's more to it. As young women who are placed into an extreme situation, the overwhelming experience is likely to be a sense of unreality, that it's not happening. The other is based on the idea of Pity -- if they do as they're told without making him angry, he will let them live. Cindy running to escape could be seen as brave because she might have done what none of his other victims did. She took control of her fear enough to act against remaining in the freeze response. The majority of us will never be in this situation. However, it's worth noting that we can never know how we'll react if forced into such a frightening, life threatening dilemma unless we're trained in overcoming our fears and fight against a dangerous predator. Just a thought

[@modostig67]

Mr. Ballen uses real event photos as well as some staged sample photos to give the story visual life. Not all photos are of the actual story.

[@bradb3248]

Please react to Mr Ballen, This Island Kept a Dark Secret Until 2004, thanks

[@heididietrich9800]

Kabir, my mother used to be a telephone operator in a rough area of Boston. The prostitutes in that area used to walk the operators to the train station to make sure they got on safely. She said that you never know what a person faces to have them get in that situation. You should read Mindhunter by John Douglas. This is one of the cases he talks about. He was an FBI agent. It angers me that the lady wouldn't take a lie detector test. She could have saved lives. John Douglas said he knew he had a speech impediment because of the way he attacked the women.