🇬🇧BRIT Reacts To OVERSIMPLIFIED THE PROHIBITION PART 1

[@Ed70Nova427]

I read somewhere that at one time in world history the population was outgrowing clean drinkable water as well. Most drinks were of something of distilled spirits of some kind. They could safely store it and drink it at every meal meaning breakfast, lunch and dinner, including for the children. Of course you can scoop it out of a river or stream or dig a well back then and scoop it out with a bucket, but you never knew when there was a dead animal up stream or something fell into the well and died or if something was contaminating it until someone got ill or worse. So of course they would boil the water to make it safer but I think that does not guarantee it is safe to consume and you can't store water like you can store spirits. I'm talking mostly about beer and way before prohibition like fifteen hundreds and before, so "Drinking" (beer) was as normal as getting dressed (from the way I understood it). I should have looked it up and provided some source of facts but I believe humans drank beer instead of water "Back in the day".

[@JPMadden]

I'm always amazed how quickly American society recognized the failure of Prohibition and ended it. IMHO, admitting we're doing something wrong is a chief obstacle to solving our problems. For example, we cannot bring ourselves to end the Drug War, which is really Prohibition 2.0 and has been just as big a failure as the first against alcohol. If you want to learn more, watch the Ken Burns documentary "Prohibition." I would imagine it's available in the UK.

[@jeffburdick869]

My grandma was the daughter of German immigrants. Her dad would brew his own beer during prohibition. Their next door neighbors were Italian immigrants who would make their own wine and they would sometimes trade with each other.

[@rich_t]

I used to live in a town where Carrie Nation visited in 1908 and smashed all the saloons and was arrested and thrown in jail. Now they have a festival every year in her name. 😂😂🤣🤣

[@Fergus_0703]

“All nations welcome except for Carrie”😂

[@cordiagabert2573]

I don't drink and know how over use has ruined families, but banning it in our huge country did not work as history showed us. In the day it was out of control giving it to even babies in their bottles to get them drunk and not cry(saw it with a cousin of mine) and cause men to leave families and spend money at all male bars and beating of wives.

[@aauwhatitdo1582]

@@cordiagabert2573 It is the ever lasting clash of freedom and safety. To be honest I really have a hard time believing there is a thin line too.

[@imvandenh]

Im certain you have the year wrong. Carrie was through with activism before 1900, her days of tearing up saloons were long over in 1908, she was not healthy and died in 1911

[@donnaroberts281]

A big motivating factor in women’s call for prohibition was domestic violence. Husbands would get drunk and beat or sexually assault their wives. Since women didn’t have much legal standing - it wasn’t even considered rape for a husband to force sex on his wife - they went after what they thought was the impetus to this behavior.

[@ginzingtonschnizer2330]

also, oversimplified doesn't talk about this in his video, but NASCAR grew out of prohibition. The people who use to drive large amounts of illegal alcohol around the south [bootleggers] basically would talk smack about who was the best bootlegger till they started racing each other in a some what organized fashion. something like over 80% of all the original legends of NASCAR were invovled in running illegal alcohol around state lines.

[@shaftshaft]

They always got caught once the police figured out they were just going in circles.

[@DaremoTen]

"They just allowed this to happen? Nobody stopped her?" Yeah, you go stop the madwoman with the axe, I'll wait here under under a table for you. Good luck.

[@nothinghere7391]

Oh yeah. Getting into the mob stuff. Some very cool and intriguing stories related to that topic

[@kabirconsiders]

Yeah it’s a really fascinating piece of history!

[@LarryHatch]

Many of us confuse temperance (advocating moderate or light drinking, certainly medicinal alcohol being okay) with prohibition (total abstinence). It's difference between visiting only one hooker a week and being a virgin! The temperance movement of the WCTU got highjacked by the moral crusaders who wanted alcohol banned. And like any movement going too far, too fast....it failed.

[@kathyp1563]

I've interpreted differently. The "moral crusaders" wanted temperance. It was the women who just wanted their men to not come home drunk, then beat them or spend the food & rent money on booze. They wanted temperance. At least that is what their movement was called. Yes, they wanted the taverns closed, but that's because the men would go there for hours & hours & come home drunk & beat the wife & kids. But, those praying women did not expect the at-home alcohol to be banned. It was when the government got in the way. It was the government who wanted all alcohol, even in the home, to be banned.

[@nininoona]

My Great Grandparents were moonshiners in the hills of NC during prohibition. My grandma used to talk about going out to help her mom with the stills and watching out for anyone that might have followed them.

[@terryyy1944]

Prohibition still exists in the US, but at the county level. 83 counties in 9 states still prohibit the sale of alcohol. Most of these states are in the South. Here is a bit of trivia, Jack Daniels whiskey produced in Lynchburg, Tennessee, by the Jack Daniel Distillery. Jack Daniel's home county of Moore is a dry county, so the product is not available for purchase at stores or restaurants within the county.

[@LarryHatch]

The problem was that brewers and distillers did not understand they needed powerful, money-dispensing lobbyists in Washington and every state capitol. That was Step No. 1. The success of alcohol was cemented with Step No. 2, politicians becoming addicted to the taxes that alcohol generates for their pet projects. Step No. 3 was public opinion, making sure any neo-prohibitionist efforts would get you kicked out of office or never getting there in the first place.

[@corvus1374]

Well, there are some cases where draconian cases were brought against people who technically violated the law. The guy who ran lyrics.ch got his servers taken and his website shut down because the music industry got the Swiss police to raid him and shut him down just for posting lyrics to songs.

[@laurataylor8717]

I believe it was my great grandfather who worked at a beer brewery, so time wise it was probably after prohibition ended I imagine. It was a perk of the job that employees got all the beer they could drink and always drank on the job. Apparently the reason people drank all day long in the early days of the country was because the water was not safe to drink but also the alcohol content of beer was much, much less than today so that's why they believed it was safe enough to give to kids.

[@kabirconsiders]

Sounds like one hell of a perk!

[@stevenhedlund5009]

I just want to make sure you get a chance to read this from an American football (soccer) fan. The MLS is a young league with only a few teams from the old NASL days (Seattle, Portland, San Jose, Vancouver) still around. The famous New York Cosmos of the 1970s (remember they had Pele and Franz Beckenbauer on the team) is still around but playing in a very low division league. So I have compiled a list of MLS teams that I think that are comparable to English football teams. Not perfect comparisons but it should help you pick your favorite MLS team. . #1 thing to know about MLS is that New York, Atlanta and Los Angeles are the major media markets of the US. The national football pundits (ie ESPN) always say teams in those markets are better then they really are. With the exception of Portland Timbers. For some reason, Portland can not do wrong in their eyes even though you will see they are complete crap as a team overall. . The elite teams in MLS are: - LA Galaxy - 29 honors won.... they are the standard of the league, deservedly so, To me they are like Liverpool - Seattle Sounders - 26 honors won (since 1974)... they have been to the MLS Cup Final four of the last five years, won multiple US Open Cups. To me they are like Arsenal BEFORE they left Highbury. BTW, the very first MLS player that the Sounders signed was Freddie Ljungberg - Columbus Crew - 6 honors. not very flashy but once in a while they'll win a big trophy and they are always a tough team to play... like Leicester . The next level down: - DC United - 13 honors but like Aston Villa, they won 9 of them back in the early days - LAFC - a young club that have not proved anything yet... but backed by Hollywood elites. Their biggest rival is the Galaxy... so they have to be Everton - Portland - 5 honors. Sometimes they play well and most of the time they play terribly. They are here because, like Tottenham, they have a devoted following and they are the Sounders #1 public enemy. And like Tottenham, their hiring of managers are like a revolving door (the Sounders have only had 2 MLS managers since 2009). - Real Salt Lake - 1 honor.... they are very similar to how Burnley is like. Somewhat relevant - Toronto - their day in the sun is now over and they are the worst team in the league (again) and should be demoted, if the MLS ever had one. They are just like Blackburn - Sporting KC - 7 honors... very tough to play at their home field but sometimes they just get lucky against better teams. Reminds me of Wolves - Atlanta - 3 honors... a team that plays in front of huge crowds and every year they think that this is the year but they have no idea what to do on the field... just like Newcastle . Promoted teams: these three teams are brand new and it is too early to figure them out. - Austin, Inter Miami and Nashville . These teams are MLS founder teams and they have done nothing except disappoint. Utter rubbish and not worth your time looking at them - Colorado, Dallas, Houston, New England, New York Red Bulls and San Jose. Colorado and Dallas have the worst stadiums and worst attendance since they are located in the middle of no where. . These teams have come into the league since MLS started and are utter rubbish as well - Minnesota, Montreal, Chicago, Cincinnati, New York City FC, Orlando, Philadelphia . There are no Manchester Uniteds or Cities on this list because the league is still too young. I suggest that you look at the Seattle Sounders because: #1, we started the march to the match in MLS. #2: We started using TIFOs at games and they are the best TIFOs in MLS. #3: We have the loudest crowds. #4: we have supporters at every away game. #5: We have supporter groups all over the US and one supporter group in Europe... which I don't think you can find with any other MLS team: "European Sounders Federation" #6: We have sold out every game since we started playing in MLS in 2009 with the exception of during the pandemic. #7. One of the original Sounder owners, Paul Allen, created the Experience Music Project near where the Sounders play. And it is devoted to the music of Jimmy Hendrix. #8. The original team sponsor was XBox... how cool is that! (Now we have Zulilly which is a kids online clothing company). . Take the leap and become a Sounders fan and wear the Rave Green! BTW... 12 games into the season: 7 wins, 5 ties and 0 losses. And that is without our starting keeper, our starting left back and without our team captain/team MVP, Nicolas Lodeiro.

[@keegansmetanko3755]

What is amazing to me is that it was able to be passed as a constitutional amendment and not a law. This is insane to me because passing an amendment is meant to be damn near impossible hence why there is only 27 of them in our nations history one to ban alcohol and one to unban it.

[@Ira88881]

The main summary of this…which you’ll learn in part 2… Is that the women led by Carrie Nation started the whole Prohibition ball rolling. But they were women responsible for repealing it.

[@Garricher5958]

A couple of good documentaries on 'The Real McCoy" are fascinating. They deal with Rum Row on the eastern seaboard. He was a straight up guy!!!

[@dilbertdoe601]

Watching this while getting my drink on.

[@kabirconsiders]

😎🍻

[@kathyp1563]

The video commented that the reason that Women spent less time working on the Temperance movement is "over simplified". Yes, the neglect of their housework was a strong reason. No that this is to be mocked. Everything took a really long time to do back then. There were no short cuts or getting take-out for dinner. Also the Women's Temperance Movement merged into the abolition Movement (anti-slaver), care of the mentally ill, women's rights, treatment of prisoners, etc.

[@rhondaturner9494]

Something I didn't hear them add - the women were also keenly aware that the more their husbands drank. the more often they became violent.

[@parsifal40002]

I can understand the reason for Prohibition. I don't drink alcohol at all. Never did. Never will. Don't like the taste nor the smell of beer.

[@chijason6630]

Can you react to "Visit Chicago - The DON'Ts of Visiting Chicago" by Wolter's World? Chicago has quite a bit of history regarding Prohibition, including a famous jazz club where Al Capone often visited (The Green Mill). While my suggestion doesn't cover it, it has quite a bit of useful information about visiting Chicago, Illinois! P.S. Lawrence (from "Lost in the Pond") also lives in the Chicago area.

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ll put it on my list!

[@jeffburdick869]

Are you a Chicagoan? Laurence lives in my neighborhood.

[@chijason6630]

@@jeffburdick869 I am not a Chicagoan - I live just outside the city limits, so I consider myself a Chicagoland native. I do spend plenty of time exploring the neighborhoods in the city, and am very familiar with the grid system!

[@kathyp1563]

Further explanation as to why the praying women took it upon themselves to close down the saloons. It is mentioned that their men were spending all their money on booze. True. It does not mention that their men were coming home drunk & beating them & their children. There was no legal recourse at that time against an abusive husband/father. So, their husband's had good paying jobs, but they had no money for food & they were getting beat. The women were taking care of their own. Why the saloons? The Temperance Movement was not about prohibition. It was about taking personal responsibility in your drinking...except for the saloons. They wanted the saloons closed. During that time, saloons would offer free lunch, as long as they paid for a drink. The free lunch was all salty food. There were other things I can't think of, but the saloons culture was not just casual drinking with the guys after a hard day. The women would not had made a fuss over that. It was encouraged to go home completely drunk.

[@kabirconsiders]

Awesome, thanks for explaining this Kathy :)

[@markbell4982]

My man Kabir getting stuck on over simplified videos. I am not complaining.

[@kabirconsiders]

I just love their channel

[@theblackbear211]

You are right about there being a religious aspect to it, but there is no way at all to simplify the complexity of how that all tied together.

[@CMF-qh1rw]

The creation of the income tax is an interesting turning point. Now we have taxes on income, property, gas, anything you buy or sell, even a death tax. We also have a modern version of the stamp act with the fees for most government permits. Taxation without representation is becoming an issue yet again.

[@KalEL224]

We have representation it’s not remotely close

[@SherriLyle80s]

NASCAR was started as a direct result from prohibition. Runners would have to be fast to loose police when bootlegging.

[@empirejeff]

My local casino people have to pay for alcohol beverages, they are not allowed to give those drinks away for free.

[@prometheuszero9]

This OverSimplified dude is outta control with how sneaky his sponsor messages are lol

[@MrTommygunz420]

1:30- I completely understand that you don't know about it (as this is a rather uniquely American experience with the closest thing elsewhere being drunk in some middle eastern countries,) but before you even get through it I would like to apologise for the women of Ohio and Wayne Wheeler ruining alcohol for everyone (and for every US citizen having to pay income tax for that matter.)

[@kingjellybean9795]

There's an old pirate shanty called whiskey johnny should give it a listen lol pirate shanties are the best drinking songs

[@jeffhaas933]

Oversimplified has a ton of great videos. You should check out the American Revolution next.

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ll put it on the list!

[@bigussmokesus8866]

Just so you know and when you get to it, react to the French Revolution videos before the Napoleonic wars video

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks for the heads up mate

[@nochannel1q2321]

@@kabirconsiders Check out "NHL Players vs Fans" by Delta Highlights. It's a riot.

[@kathyp1563]

Some off-handed observations as how the Temperance Movement & Prohibition permanently changed US culture. 1. Public Water Fountains -- 1874, the Women's Christian Temperance Movement called for the members to erect free drinking fountains in the most at-risk areas. 2. Water Drinkers - I believe US is drinks water way more than other cultures. I think it is a result of the Temperance Movement 3. Non-drinkers -- There are a lot of non-drinkers in U.S. We are minority, but there are enough of us, that we are "normal". 4. Nascar - See below comments.

[@defftony]

Hmm, most consider the ban to be a massive failure because it created ruff times and people drank during it. Yet in modern times we drink 1/3 as much alcohol as back then despite our current overall moral state. So maybe for those whose motives were sincere it actually was a success?

[@kathyp1563]

I recently saw "Ken Burns' documentary on Prohibition. Obviously, it goes into greater detail. There were positive & negative things to come of it...as most things in life. The reason we have public water fountains everywhere is because of the Temperance Ladies. As Americans, we drink more water than most other cultures, which I think is a result of prohibition. Or at least the Temperance Movement. (Temperance Movement & Prohibition had two very different cultural impacts) We do have a large non-drinking culture in the States. I think we're the minority, but we are "normal". I do consider it was a failure, because gov't shouldn't create laws that are so overbearing that they are too difficult to obey.

[@ThumperKJFK]

Three states-Kansas, Mississippi, and Tennessee-are entirely dry by default: But United States, the states with the highest number of dry Counties include Arkansas, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, South Dakota, Tennessee and Texas. Kansas, Mississippi, and Tennessee are the three states that are wholly dry by default. And 500 municipalities in the United States are dry including 83 in Alaska. Three of the 67 counties in Florida are dry. No Alcohol. Kabir Consider this crazy Fact. Despite Moore County's found in Tennessee that are Dry, is interestingly enough also the home of Jack Daniel's, a chief distillery of whiskey which is operational. Say What? LMAO Thanks. that was fun.

[@MegaFoghornleghorn]

Hancock, Harrison and Jackson county's in Mississippi definitely are not dry. You can buy beer 24 for hours a day 365 days a year. Bar's don't have a mandatory closing time. They can say open as long as they want. They do limit the sale of liquor . you can buy it in the bar's all the time but to purchase it from a liquor store you have to buy it by midnight and no liquor sales on Sunday .

[@MaestroMuerto]

I cant wait for part 2..... This is gonna be awesome!!!!

[@kabirconsiders]

Me too, should be a fun one!

[@josephdillon5203]

Speaking of Prohibition, you should do a reaction to "robin and the 7 hoods "Mr.Boose"! great song!

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ll put it on my list!

[@annarae2396]

In Campbell, California there is a bar named Carrie Nations.

[@michaelmalmgren431]

"We just want to talk..." "It's a trap..!"

[@a00141799]

I don't think the drinking culture of the UK is present here at the save level Kabir. Personally I've tried alcohol one time in my life and that was enough for me to decide that it wasn't for me. The same with cigarettes. I can truthfully say that I've never purchased any alcohol in my entire life. The time that I did try liquor was at a bachelor party when I was in my 30's. When my daughter turned 21 her friends bought her a number of bottles of wine to celebrate. She called me from her party to ask if it was okay to bring them home. I think she ended up giving it away. Funny that none of my friends or relatives drink either.🚫🚫🚫 I guess non drinkers gravitate towards each other. 🍸🍸🍸 Back in the early 80's my (US Navy) ship stopped in Oman and we were told that alcohol was strictly prohibited on religious grounds throughout that country. Well needless to day a lot of guys came back to the ship drunk every night. So I guess that pretty much anything can be had for the right price. I guess some aspects of human nature are universal. It is said that we are all born with a fondness for profit. 💰💰💰💰💰

[@kabirconsiders]

Your days in the navy sound awesome, I bet you formed a lot of very tight bonds

[@jena6587]

Key word is moderation. There’s a lot of my friends and family, that can’t do it in moderation. Some one I know personally, has no moderation at all.

[@kabirconsiders]

Absolutely, balance is key

[@ScissorsRockinPaper]

The city I live in in Texas legalized liquor back 2006

[@rebeccawyse5562]

So we are no longer under prohibition, so why is there still an income tax...dunno

[@theblackbear211]

Carrie Nation was wrecking illegal saloons - when it was taboo to strike a woman who was not your wife. Besides, she was a "crazy lady" with a hatchet.

[@everypitchcounts4875]

Apple pie moonshine is really good. The real moonshine though. Blueberry, strawberry moonshine. White lightning is the strongest.

[@bumblebeeyellowdragon]

The reason alcohol was massively consumed in old America and the colonies is because water wasn't freely accessible in many places so they used it as a substitute.

[@blake7587]

It’s kinda like marijuana in most of the world. Here in California it’s legal to anyone over 21 and can be bought openly at a dispensary. But in the UK it’s illegal but people still smoke it regularly.

[@jerrysantos6484]

Dam do gooders!

[@kabirconsiders]

😂😂

[@mikegoin6023]

I live in a town that is still dry. Haven't been able to buy booze since prohibition.

[@theblackbear211]

You are going to have fun with part 2.

[@kabirconsiders]

Can’t wait!

[@timhuffmaster3588]

We took the alcohol back and chased it with a future full of corruption.

[@Pyth0n313]

React to Potential History's Operation Barbarossa series

[@SaifeddineElyamoune]

Every Arab country rn: bruh

[@quinnlay2150]

Little nascar fact for you nascar was started by the end of prohibition

[@kabirconsiders]

No way! That’s a cool piece of history

[@nadeau]

Anything by Internet Historian you should react to.

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ll add a few of his vids to my list!

[@mattpaonessa]

you should react to What's Up With The 14 US Territories. just got released a few days ago :) think its something you would enjoy

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ll put it on my list!

[@Happymali10]

12:18 Totally american. Wiiith an eastern Block rifle.

[@kabirconsiders]

Good spot 😂

[@ronluk76]

Hey dude, please react to the Infographics show channels video on the Deadliest Gangs in the US.

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ll put it on the list!

[@gxthblxde]

Marijuana is much more sufficient medicine you should so a vid ab the hsitory

[@shrekeatscupcakes3918]

In 2005 I wasn't born yet

[@dilbertdoe601]

It's funny he says woman instead of women.

[@kabirconsiders]

I know right 😂

[@amywells8609]

His incorrect pronunciation of women is making me insane

[@willardwooten9582]

Am I too High , was this 3 vids in one day.

[@kabirconsiders]

Nope you got it right! I did a music vid today as well

[@gilligan1350]

"...and, obviously, when you ban something you only create a black market..." Can you repeat that little louder for the people in the back, please? Everybody needs to hear it. Thanks!

[@kabirconsiders]

It should be so obvious to government, is like they know but choose to ban stuff anyway

[@firstnlastnamethe3rd771]

Lotta Karen's 100 yrs ago. Yep, I definitely smoked more pot before it was legalized here.

[@jefferybeckham9053]

Sounds just like the Democratic party in 2021. Think about it 🤔