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So it turns out there's a secret stealth party in the UK's political system. They've got 26 MPs in the House of Commons and members across the devolved assemblies. Despite being bigger than the Liberal Democrats you've likely never heard of them (the Cooperative Party). So in this video we explain who the Cooperative Party are, what they stand for and why you don't know anything about them.
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[@TLDRnews]

CORRECTION: This script was written & animated before the changes in the Labour party, so we incorrectly said Anneliese Dodds was the Shadow Chancellor. She no longer is, being replaced by Rachel Reeves on May 9th

[@armadillito]

Pin your own damn comment chaps

[@stopmotionpanda4434]

@@armadillito lol

[@aidangarner1181]

You also said that Co-op Party members are only allowed to also be members of Labour and not any other party. This is not true! They can also be members of the SDLP in NI.

[@thest3alth]

Also Croydon South has a Conservative MP. I think it's either Croydon North or Central which has a co-op MP

[@anomolyreport]

Ok, but you need to buy a good quality mic first. Audio is very muffled

[@meganmasters4726]

Is this why I sometimes see "Labour and Co-operative party" on the ballot? I've always wondered!

[@okok72277]

Yes that's exactly it :)

[@paulwilson2651]

@@okok72277 Yes so not a distinct party but part or indeed the Labour party!

[@molybdomancer195]

Also many labour members are members of both parties

[@bamalam5762]

@@paulwilson2651 separate parties with similar ideas who have an electoral pact

[@paulwilson2651]

@@bamalam5762 Can't obviously stand on their own mind you having anything to do with the Labour party is getting dodgy.

[@Jsicana]

I was going to make a joke about the co-op having a school, funeral service, supermarket and political party but it turns out they sort of do

[@saturnsandjupiters358]

The logos are so perfect, considering the alliance, like how bees and flowers rely on one another for survival!

[@SetSenet]

omg you genius

[@danguee1]

Except the co op logo is not of a normal honey bee, is it? That is some sort of other bee - or it's _almost_ a honey bee drone (which is pretty much useless - apposite!). I'd be interested to know what species of bee it is.

[@germanicus1994]

I've always wondered why my MP ran under "Labour and cooperative", but always thought it was just the full name for the Labour party. Thank you for the insight TLDR!

[@hhs_leviathan]

Me before clicking: it's the greens isn't it? Later: Ok, now you have my attention...

[@jamesoakley4570]

Same here 😂

[@PStaveley]

There is an error in the graphic around 1:09. Croydon South is a Conservative seat, he meant Croydon North. The constituencies are listed by the MP's surname, as on Wikipedia

[@gartut200]

These guys just throw up constituencies graphs all the time and 70% they are wrong

[@josephbrennan370]

Finally Croydon has been mentioned online. Even if it is just for a politics video.

[@alexpotts6520]

Also, there is no constituency called "Birmingham" (way too big to have just one MP), and Batley and Spen doesn't have an MP at all at the moment, as of a couple of weeks ago Tracey Brabin was elected Mayor of West Yorkshire and had to give up her Westminster seat.

[@thedarkwolf2525]

@@josephbrennan370 A fellow Croydonian?

[@josephbrennan370]

@@thedarkwolf2525 yes. Although I have never been called a Croydonian before.

[@scotandiamapping4549]

When you said "7 in Scotland" my mind went to the Greens

[@elliotwatson3754]

Probably them and Labour

[@diabl2master]

But it would have been very unreasonable to assume that this channel's audience wouldn't have heard of the Green Party. And not worthy of a video 🤭

[@scotandiamapping4549]

@@diabl2master Oh cmon the thought lasted about 12 seconds there wasn't enough time for that to go through my head

[@craig8399]

So every time I buy milk from the local shop I'm indirectly funding a party I've never heard of. UK Politics is weird.

[@elliotwilliams7421]

Everytime you use fuel your funding big corporations and dodgy MPs.

[@humeragondal2135]

yeah with everything we do, the banks/building societies or co-ops we but our money in we are funding domestic and international governments and corporations/business currently there is a campaign for HSBC to stop funding deforestation

[@isnitjustkit]

@@elliotwilliams7421 They arent dodgy, they just advocate for something the main labour party doesnt

[@Theorimlig]

@@isnitjustkit He wasn't talking about the co-operative party.

[@craig8399]

@@elliotwilliams7421 Fuck. I didn't think of that. I can't win, can I?

[@Epicbird-hb5eg]

I live in one of those constituencies so noticed their existence a while back, but this is far more than any research I bothered to do on them

[@thomasgray4188]

Me: can't see the thumbnail Is it the cooperative party? Reads description: Sometimes my genius is almost frightening.

[@siyabongamchunu4342]

When you were describing what the party stood for (before the big reveal) I thought "yrrrr, this sounds like Labour".

[@colindelabie9734]

Maybe labour scaled up to 100

[@coolio2000]

Not anymore

[@hhs_leviathan]

The old, pre-Tony Blair Labour, that is. More about the working class, less about the filler...

[@jedaye47]

Labour stopped standing for that 20 odd years ago

[@coolio2000]

@@jedaye47 I think corbyn and to a certain extent miliband could've matched the description

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

It’s a like a secret club nobody knows, but knows from the outside.

[@ketch_up]

Great video! I'm a member of the Co-op party, and there were things you explained which I didn't know. Thanks!

[@rdevil5330]

I'd support the coop party if I were British

[@idklol781]

i was literally about to make a joke about the co-op party owning the supermarket and then i was told they actually do

[@kets4443]

"Batley and Spen has a Co-Op MP" *laughs in by-election*

[@highpath4776]

Might do better if stood as Co-op on own. Would prefer that Co-op signed up with Libs or Greens.

[@kets4443]

@@highpath4776 if brabin ran as co op by itself she would've split the leftist vote and lose supporters to labour

[@highpath4776]

@@kets4443 Not if Labour stood down (not policy, but I wonder if its time for change following Hartlepool and the red wall?)

[@gamriii]

@@highpath4776 I'm a member of the Co-operative Party, honestly the greens seem too left wing for most Co-operative members, and with the Lib Dems, well they appeal to more Co-op members but they are on the more centrist side. With all of that considered, Labour seems to be the best fit.

[@ipadair7345]

I literally had the idea for multiple years that co-operatives should exist, and everything about them, but I never knew they existed, and there was already a party vouching for more of them.

[@0000-z4z]

Not all coops are owned by the employees. Many are owned by their customers.

[@ipadair7345]

@@0000-z4z So is there a different name for such a establishment?

[@0000-z4z]

@@ipadair7345 Worker cooperative

[@ipadair7345]

@@0000-z4z Thank You :)

[@asillypiggy]

@@0000-z4z A business owned by the community for the community, doesn’t that sound way better than a business owned by a multi-billionaire that hide his money in the British Virgin Island?

[@ewanknight3015]

Love how you can have a logo for the Monster Raving Loony Party in the video but you still can’t put one for the Scottish Greens

[@aidangarner1181]

INACCURACY at 6:37 "rules bar them from being members of any other party" Co-op Party members can also be members of the SDLP.

[@minui8758]

And obviously the Labour Party. I’m in both

[@LordBillington42]

Thank you for making this video. I was lucky enough to be friends with Chris Herries, former chair of the party. She was a truly inspiring person who devoted her life to making the world better for others in real, measurable ways. She unexpectedly passed away last year. There isn't a day that goes by where I don't think of her and am grateful for having known her.

[@dreamer2260]

@Luís Andrade Go and be vile and obnoxious somewhere else (actually, preferably nowhere).

[@dreamer2260]

@Luís Andrade I don't like people being disrespectful, dogmatic and selfish.

[@curtgavin7845]

@Luís Andrade Shitting on a dead person just makes you an asshole, especially if that person never did anything to you & your doing it on a post made by somone remembering them.

[@tyranneous]

@Luís Andrade Regardless of whether being a clown is your job or not, you're clearly a gifted amateur. Casually flipping the term socialism/socialist around as if you know enough about it to actually criticise it is clearly disingenuous, and quite obviously there for one purpose only. By the way, how is that socialist market economy produced device you're trolling through working out for you? :)

[@prometheus7387]

@Luís Andrade The statement wasn't made on an ideological basis, they said that the person was a genuinely good person to hang around and legitimately did some impactful work on society. Try to be even 1% as impactful on society. Tough challenge, yeah I know.

[@elitedavidhorne8494]

Never heard of them before this. But they've got my vote. I might even shop in coop from now on.

[@nadeemchaudhry6585]

My local MP (Ealing North) is essentially a Labour MP that just uses the name 'co-OP' with no meaning. All his campaigning in the past was based on Labour policy and I suspect 99% of locals have never heard of the Coop party. However if they choose to stick with Labour, good luck to them as they will need it!!

[@samde9922]

If the cooperative party broke off from Labour I'm sure they'd do well

[@minhyukjang]

I would be so excited to see this happen

[@stuartsummers1303]

I doubt it.

[@venusianblivet9518]

I think sticking within labour is actually very smart for a small party in first past the post system.

[@liamsweeney4754]

With ranked choice voting they'd do alright, but with this system they would be lucky to get a single candidate elected

[@pontifexcellence6648]

Britain’s biggest group is currently non-voters - bigger than any single party. Register to vote!

[@humeragondal2135]

think there are many registered voters who are not going to the polls; need a non of the above box

[@Xentillus]

@@humeragondal2135 It's called spoiling the ballot, where you deliberately make it obvious you're voting for no-one. You can do anything from voting for everyone to an obscene picture on the ballot, but it'll get recorded as spoilt. It's something more people should know about and do, infinitely better than not voting at all.

[@gibospartan6185]

@@Xentillus Actually it’s better than that. In the UK you can write ‘Protest vote’ on the ballot and it will be officially counted as a protest vote instead of a spoiled vote.

[@Phelena]

Voted for the first time this year! Its really not that hard to fake your identity and to vote as a 5 year old!!! :)))

[@pontifexcellence6648]

@@humeragondal2135 This is a very good point - there is a mechanism for this. You can spoil your ballot by writing on it ‘none of the above’, drawing a new box and putting a cross in it. It’s counted along with other spoilt ballots and can show dissatisfaction amongst voters in a particular constituency.

[@cukuwaekele]

1:05 CORRECTION: Croydon South’s MP is Chris Philp from the Conservative Party. I think you mean Croydon North’s Steve Reed.

[@prometheus7387]

I thought the coop party was a coalition party, but this is still fascinating!

[@Quick_in_and_out]

Your audio is quiet compared to other channels by some margin

[@LOLE_Editz]

Never knew my local supermarket was the 4th biggest political party in the UK

[@redwards5000]

Technically Batley and Spen doesn’t have a Cooperative MP because they don’t have an MP, Tracey Brabin resigned when she became Mayor of West Yorkshire after the recent election.

[@TheYopogo]

I'd heard of them 💅

[@ipadair7345]

I didn't, and isn't that what matters. ~By a fellow narcissist.

[@TheYopogo]

@@ipadair7345 Ha. Just wanted to show off

[@hoi4noob765]

@@ipadair7345 cope

[@JackTheSlayer-ok5eq]

@@hoi4noob765 man he literally called himself a narcissist, i don’t think he’s coping

[@harborned]

This party speaks most to my political values and I didn't even know it existed.... they need to do a bit more advertising!

[@jakubekch.3621]

Me who has no idea on British politics "I've not heard about remaining 3 bigger ones either before this video"

[@surprisedlobsta8543]

I wish co-operativism was more well-known

[@koalasquare2145]

@@Michael-mh2tw what was your reason?

[@sharktamer]

@@Michael-mh2tw thanks for that reply, it was really informative

[@ipadair7345]

@@Michael-mh2tw thanks for the reply, I understand your reasoning. Though I do say that the monopoly aspect is also shown in Private buisnesses, in order for a Co-Op to exist equally, new developments, and models would be needed for making it worthwhile, and most importantly new policies on education,etc in order to remove some of the bad.While I think the good outways the bad, I understand your viewpoint.

[@noahlibra]

Co-operativism would basically be a disaster as it would make British equity markets effectively redundant. Much of new capital generation relies on financial investors from banks to ordinary consumers. These people wouldn’t be able to trade equity in a completely co-operative system as there would be none to trade and issue as only workers would hold the shares. So although this would mean workers would receive greater dividends off of the shares giving them higher pay, it would also mean that raising funds for the company (especially for any new, smaller business) would be virtually impossible. This would massively slow down innovation for only a very marginal benefit to workers.

[@Michael-mh2tw]

@@sharktamer Well, it wouldn't have been very consistent to say I wanted more criticism, and then not criticize. Glad you got something from it.

[@dazzlerweb]

Mic level could be upped a bit to match intro music level which is higher. :)

[@liamhalliday8437]

For me, the Co-Op end of the Labour party would be more appealing (I speak as a Classical Liberal, swing voter, who spoiled my last national election ballot). I like that it still focuses on the individual, but how individuals can come together and co-operate. That's admirable, and feels quite centrist, appealing to the benefits of the individual and community. Too many left leaning ideologies, from Communism, Progressivism and Socialism, sacrifice the individual too much at the expense of the collective, for example with "positive discrimination"/quotas that make it difficult for me to support. I've honestly never heard of this party, but I hope they continue to do well and get more attention. Thanks for sharing!

[@afgor1088]

I hate to break it to you but if you like coop policies you're not a classical liberal you're a socialist Most of what you hear about socialists is just flat out lies most socialists generally align with the coop party

[@diesel92kj1]

Keep spoiling that ballot.

[@dreamer2260]

Co-ops are pure socialism. It's giving workers control over the means of production; empowering them. And it's a good idea. Just ignore the propaganda that's biased you against the left.

[@tomfoolery2913]

co-ops are socialist...

[@afgor1088]

@@tomfoolery2913 ok fine... so? if it works it works call it what you like

[@metamask462]

*Hey mate, I just turned 43, and I’ve decided to invest in the financial market, I have over $200k invested, I need tips on how to grow that’s to $1.5million in two years and retire at 45*

[@patriciabolivia1601]

Making such gains from the market are actually possible, you just need to be dedicated and do a lot of research.

[@lauragomez2606]

Quite impressive gains, does this wealth manager of yours work with just anybody? Mind sharing some info ??

[@PínnédbyCryptóRévölutíön-o9t]

that is crazy awesome!!!!

[@Sorrycomrade]

EVERY COMMENT ABOVE THIS ONE IS FAKE TRYING TO PROMOTE SOMEBODY FALSELY. AVOID.

[@Sorrycomrade]

Notice how all the names are perfectly written with a photo too? Too good to be true for KZbin.

[@leftgrrl]

Weird thing: constitutionally the Co-Operative Party is not a co-operative.

[@nadeemchaudhry6585]

Another great video! I think the real question to ask here, are they really the 4th largest party? If their candidates stood on their own solely under the banner of the Co-Op party, would they retain their seats? Loose those seats or even gain more seats?

[@oorrossie]

Ah! Sean Kippin was my lecturer at uni - Great guy and glad to see his work is doing well!

[@mausklick1635]

Sounds pretty based tbh.

[@ForestKicks]

Very informative, thank you

[@tomazou2010]

The fact more people didn't know this really says a lot about the state of our democracy.

[@solfennell8981]

Damn, I can't believe I didn't know about them. They sound pretty cool.

[@eugenelubbock5478]

I agree

[@dalfkssafetillity5570]

Now they are not . Typical leftists

[@eugenelubbock5478]

@@dalfkssafetillity5570 as you can see, as with the co-op, cooperative businesses can be just as successful as their non cooperative counterparts. And give them better working conditions, better hours, better pay, and a democratic say in how the business is run. I think we should turn most businesses cooperative.

[@dalfkssafetillity5570]

@@eugenelubbock5478 So... Socialism ?

[@eugenelubbock5478]

@@dalfkssafetillity5570 yup

[@proxyanon6102]

This was really cool and informative. I love how slick the production is.

[@johnnyfortpants1415]

Is TLDR a cooperative or does it seek to concentrate wealth to its owners? Ironically, the video ended with an ad for developing my shares portfolio...

[@koalasquare2145]

@TLDR news could you do an interview with the head of the cooperative party?

[@louisjohnson3888]

This is weird, I literally just found out about the cooperative party the other day in my A-Level politics lesson

[@Paranoid_Found]

before watching the video let me guess: is it the Co-operative Party?

[@JackTheSlayer-ok5eq]

you got it right

[@gregoryfenn1462]

I thought they were a subset of Labour?

[@wafflesingsong6715]

@@gregoryfenn1462 They’re an independent party that’s in union with Labour, much like in Germany where CSU is in union with CDU

[@abraham9324]

Please increase the volume of your videos. Most of the time they are lower than other channels. But this one borderline unhearable without Volume Master.

[@jsbarretto]

Us Co-op party members are the true entryists. Jokes aside, we're always very proud to campaign as co-op candidates and members too.

[@ILikedGooglePlus]

co-ops are based

[@keithveness4679]

I have been a member of the Cooperative Party since 1972 and was branch secretary of Islington Borough Coop Party from 1983 until 1989 and still a member down here East Kent. If you want a different take on public ownership, think about joining the Cooperative Party.

[@SeverusFelix]

In America, we call this concept "employee owned," while a "co op" is owned by shareholders, who are the customers. I belong to a farm supply co op and get my electricity from a co op, but I've never worked for either. I did work for an employee owned company for a few years. It is a very different sort of company culture from the corporate jobs I've held in the same industry. People take it personally when they see other workers slacking off.

[@Froge0]

Yeah I knew of this party but knew nothing about them. Interesting video.

[@fiddley]

This really confused me when I saw it on the recent elections. I was looking for Labour and I thought "The Co-operative Labour" was some kind of con!

[@torspedia]

I have a feeling that the Coop Party, within a few years, could eventually leave Labour... especially with the way that Starmer and co are going!

[@flappetyflippers]

This is actually really interesting, I really like this!

[@jacbug-7349]

Isn’t this just market socialism?

[@theblackswordsman9951]

Worker Cooperatives are ideologically most associated with “Market Socialism”. However, when not the dominant economic model, they can certainly be seen in Social Democracies. TLDR Both SocDem and Market Socialist.

[@ietomos7634]

When I worked for the Co-operative company they almost went bust buying about £600 million of debt. They also built a new HQ across the road even though there was nothing wrong with the original. Plebs.

[@theonesparrowhawk]

I knew it was Co-operative before the video, but only because I read a bit about them before the elections

[@nadrini300]

Same here.

[@nadrini300]

Known about them a while back. It really pays to read. Informative video as always!

[@RalphyNoPants]

Minnesota has something similar, it has no Democrats but rather a Democratic-Farmer-Labor party.

[@antonyslack1]

As a Labour coop member I'm happy with this video x

[@matthewo5572]

To confirm from a co-op member then, is the goal to make every business a co-op? If so then why can't you make such a structure be a popular one through free market results? My current impression of the party is state mandated private business structures.

[@diesel92kj1]

Don't admit it.

[@antonyslack1]

@Matthew O Not EVERY business but to highlight the importance of a cooperative approach to business development and that there are better models in business than a purely capitalistic one.

[@Timathius17]

@@matthewo5572 Free market results only reflect profits, not social benefits. Unfortunately, not everything van be valued in monetary terms. In a completely free market (0 regulation), it is the least socially responsible and exploitative companies that do best.

[@armelfrancois7009]

@Tim Jones well, it's not so black and white. whilst many private firms do often outperform coops, it's important to note that we're looking at successful private firms. effectively only 40% of private businesses are successful, compared to 80% of cooperatives. furthermore, coops tend to fair better during recessions. this is even more so the case with credit unions (the cooperative versions of banks) doing better than regular banks due to having more automatic stabilisers (in the macroeconomic sense)

[@bertaroo]

I have heard of them and always wondered the difference between them and Labour thanks for this video

[@SDM-Zone]

Its a bit silly that they only work with labour. I think the SNP and Scottish green party could both benefit from cooperative party influence. It would mean they would have to ignore labour getting thrashed every election in Scotland but more left wing unity the better.

[@danielbentham758]

Guessing this is the co-op party whilst the adverts are still playing

[@omarfoster5763]

Really informative video. My mp is in here Steve Reed for Croydon North and I never even knew he was

[@josephbrennan370]

I live in Croydon North too and I only remember Steve reed as he came to my school and is still in power lol.

[@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus]

What the hell is a "Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer" That sounds like something from a fantasy book.

[@TheRambunctious]

The UK has two major parties, labour and conservative, when one in is power they form a cabinet, made up of chancellor of the exchequer, home secretary, foreign secretary etc. The party not in power, the opposition party, also forms a cabinet, a shadow cabinet. They have no power, it is kind of like that party saying "if we get into power, this is what our cabinet would look like". For example, the shadow chancellor draws up labours economic plans and criticises the tory ones, despite having no actual influence on which becomes law, unless their party is elected at the next election. Not sure if the USA political parties have a similar system. Oh, and chancellor of the exchequer is like "secretary of the treasury" in the USA I believe

[@redswanmusic3627]

The Co-op party? Edit: yep

[@planexto9554]

This should’ve been posted on April 1st, many people would then doubted this video.

[@caincotterill5493]

Everyday is a school day🇬🇧👍🏻

[@neuralwarp]

Actually, I believe the largest UK party is the Abstainers. God help the old parties if the Abstainers ever get into power.

[@problemsolver3254]

Co ops based

[@gilesfitzherbert7725]

The Cooperative party is part of the Labour party. There are no MP's who are just Cooperative MPs, they are all Labour MP's.

[@TajiriOli]

"The co-operative" Sounds like a villain in a hollywood movie or AAA Game xD

[@dafuzzymonster]

You guys wanna get into co-operatives you should watch Philosophy Tubes video on shitty jobs.

[@theblackswordsman9951]

Philisophy Tube has some painfully stupid takes about economics. Watch Unlearning Economics' response video "Breadtube vs Economics". He's an actual Economics PHD so he knows what he's talking about. And im not a Econ101 type btw. He even talks about that in a different video.

[@robertwinslade3104]

@@theblackswordsman9951 love Unlearning Economics. On this issue though PT and UE come to roughly similar conclusions (via VERY different arguments); they both advocate for co-operatives

[@dafuzzymonster]

@@theblackswordsman9951 I haven't seen that video. I just like the way he broke down how some people make money from working and some people make money from ownership. Its kind of the best arguement the co-operative has.

[@jacobvanstone6839]

Mm not a great video, I haven’t seen Philosophy Tubes other work, but that video and the one on housing kind of put me off.

[@dafuzzymonster]

@@jacobvanstone6839 are you a landlord?

[@johnchessant3012]

1:50 The country is called Colombia, not Columbia.

[@DW-dd4iw]

Interesting.

[@Tay12345]

I already knew this because my MP is one of them! When I saw the thumbnail I guessed it would be about them.

[@3bydacreekside]

Found my new party

[@James-sk4db]

So after leaving the Labour Party you are joining.... the Labour Party. With voters like this no wonder they only offer terrible policies it doesn’t matter.

[@ipadair7345]

@@James-sk4db I mean voting Co-Op shows that people like their ideology, this means their ideology gets more of a front seat in upcoming labour elections.

[@RossTaylorific]

The co-op is the worst supermarket in the UK, evidence that perhaps the model doesn't work.

[@RafaelW8]

I will be voting cooperative from now on.

[@RickProcterLane]

Thank you so much for this guys 😊

[@sean9321]

So is John Lewis also a co-operativism organisation?

[@isnitjustkit]

Yes, the largest in the country in fact

[@armadillito]

Yes, it's workers are (almost?) all partners in the business

[@cmecoo3109]

I used to be a member of the Co-Op party, very flimsy membership card :(

[@AgnesHOWL]

Sounds fun, where do these kids hangout?

[@billylauwda9178]

Well in parliament

[@nomoremrniceguy8106]

You can find them outside of voting stations handing out leaflets. You have to be quick though before they get chased away. Either that or they'll be getting kicked out of pubs and then shouted at by the landlord :)

[@georgemacpherson1992]

Both the Labour and Cooperative parties agree back in the 20’s that they won’t stand against each other in elections.

[@circadianizzy]

1:07 Damn, I'm actually in one of those!

[@moonam8389]

Always wondered what was going on with the co-operatives

[@captainnice1881]

I prefer the shop co-op

[@cathlaurs9754]

Sounds great to me. I'm certainly in favour of fighting Capitalism on all and any front.

[@likklej8]

They are more labour than Sir Kier too!

[@Bushflare]

I wouldn't mind there being more Co-Ops in the country but I wouldn't want them enforced because private enterprise is as moral in principle as a Co-Op and it's just a matter of which system is better for which company.

[@koalasquare2145]

Yeah, no one is advocating for forcing everyone to become a coop, most of the legislation aims to allow them to complete with traditional enterprises.

[@Bushflare]

@@koalasquare2145 What is preventing them from currently doing so?

[@koalasquare2145]

@@Bushflare they struggle to find Investors because they are more focused on benefiting the workers than the shareholders. So even when they are just as profitable, they get less development. They also tend to lack infrastructure, banks and lawyers know less about coops so it's harder for them to work with coops. I think a small subsidy and enough public exposure could allow coops to be a major sector as influential as the private or public sector. I think the main problem is just public exposure though.

[@Paul-zk2tn]

@@koalasquare2145 But thats government intervention. Why should co-ops receive government funding just because their chosen system is worse at raising money?

[@Bushflare]

@@koalasquare2145 Why would anybody complain that Co-Ops struggle to find investors? Of course they do, they're fundamentally opposed to the shareholder model. Shareholder model is just top-down version of the Co-Op model, they cannot coexist. That's not something legislation will fix, that's just how Co-Ops naturally work. And subsidising Co-Ops is just poor legislative principle. I'm all for encouraging new businesses regardless of their structure but it shouldn't be the duty of the people to fund these start-ups. If the Co-Op party has been around for 100 years now then surely the lack of public awareness and infrastructure's gotta be laid at least a bit on their shoulders, right? Why not construct a list of banks/building societies who are able to work with Co-Ops and form that infrastructure naturally over time? It just strikes me that Co-Ops are less being disadvantaged by the government and more that they're being disadvantaged by the quality of their advocates/community.

[@expelleddux]

I've heard of them, they were once a party in New Zealand

[@Michael-mh2tw]

I wish non-Americans would stop using the phrase 'green new deal'. The phrase is supposed to reference the 'new deal', a set of policies by FDR. It's a mark of imported American political attitudes having people use it in Europe.

[@charlieallen6425]

Great video ! I learnt a lot - just a typo: *Colombian*

[@linasg90]

Thanks for pointing that out lol!! as a colombian fellow I cringed a little bit

[@beardtrick3739]

Thank you so much for this, i'm centrist (neither left or right wing) and this party fits me perfectly !!!

[@Maussiegamer]

arent you left wing then?

[@walnutmanlastname5302]

This is definitely a left wing thing my dude

[@walnutmanlastname5302]

@@marinemanaphy101 to be fair, a lot of the time it's people who aren't too politically literate trying to say they're for pragmatic policies

[@aidy6000]

@@marinemanaphy101 the beauty of centrism is deciding your feelings based on policy as opposed to a blind faith in ideology

[@tomio8072]

You are a socialist then :) socialists have championed them for centuries, look up Robert Owen :)

[@Jenkowelten]

If the UK adopts PR (and it should), will the co-op party and labour split?

[@elibolton6235]

Co-Op party seems so based

[@devon896]

This channel is so bloody left wing.

[@TheRambunctious]

It is a video about a left wing party, if you want propaganda where all they do is bash them go watch GB news or something