Britain’s New Fringe Parties Explained

[@Claymunism]

Something fishy is going on between Salmon and Sturgeon, not sure exactly what it is yet.

[@ASocialistTransGirl]

fish are so cool 🐟🐟🐟🐠🐠🦈🦈

[@gordonstrong5232]

I do love a fish pun, sometimes I make one just for the halibut. (Yes, I did nick that off a penguin wrapper)

[@bryanalexander2508]

Let’s hope that can of worms isn’t opened any time soon…

[@benji.3002]

@@ASocialistTransGirlI've seen you in so many comment sections recently and it's great, go off girl!

[@Weirdisjustabrownandyellowword]

⁠@@ASocialistTransGirlI love fish 🦈🐟🐠🐡

[@MacrobianNomad]

Fox got beat by a trolling KZbinr 😭

[@SquidgyPixel]

He got so salty with Max Fosh xD

[@realhorrorshow8547]

Last I heard, Fox submitted his paperwork for the Mayoral election with mere hours left before the deadline. So, if there was anything wrong there would be no time to fix it. There was something wrong. He won't be a candidate this time.

[@zaksharman]

@@SquidgyPixel I thought that was Niko Omilana?

[@MrMister64]

​@@zaksharman both ran, Niko got more votes though.

[@tomrogue13]

Yeah Max can't second to last

[@petertaylor4647]

Britain will always be a two party system as long as first past the post isn't changed to another type of voting

[@davidz2690]

Well we did vote on it but the propaganda from the 2 parties it benefits was always going to be hard to beat

[@Emsworth377]

Yep, none of this matters until a system that supports proportional representation (such as MMP) is implemented

[@nealrigga6969]

After seeing how pathetic some of these smaller parties are like Reclaim, maybe we should just stick with the two parties

[@celtic69]

England*

[@useodyseeorbitchute9450]

​@@nealrigga6969 Well, when think about it, especially with hindsight it opposing lockdowns may give them bragging rights...

[@timgwallis]

American Republicans get compared to British Conservatives, but Republicans and Reclaim sound way closer to each other

[@frederickthegreat3912]

Republicans are basically far right at this point, the Conservatives are far less extreme overall (of course both parties have a range of different views within them, but you get the idea)

[@pretty7995]

@@frederickthegreat3912 Lol republicans are nowhere near far right.

[@swausgebouwen143]

@@frederickthegreat3912''basically far right'' lmao

[@wile123456]

No, the conservatives are far right extreme. Sunak is full in on the racism and transphobia, and the rebels in the party keeps getting louder.

[@Paul-bs5wl]

@@frederickthegreat3912 Friendly reminder that the Republican platform on the national scale is effectively the Democrat platform from 30 years ago. The leftist parties are the ones that have changed, but I guess if you don't pay attention you might be convinced otherwise.

[@ML-ir5vo]

Labour have hardly been socially liberal, particularly on trans rights, to be fair.

[@bababababababa6124]

Reclaim party is such an embarrassment that they were beaten by a KZbinr doing it for shits and giggles 💀

[@wile123456]

Neo-nazis live for taking L's

[@Paul-bs5wl]

Yep. In a shithole city with totally broken ethnic politics, a man opposing the rot with the entire media and political establishment against him managed to lose, big surprise. Even ignoring that, it is a more relevant reflection of how little people in London (probably under 25s) respect their role in their society that they voted for some guy they know off the internet who has no intention of taking his role seriously.

[@hmishfiddy]

Not surprised since the whole niko for mayor thing was extremely popular… Its not an embarrassment you just don’t understand politics bud

[@bababababababa6124]

@@hmishfiddy”bud” 🤓 Imagine voting Reclaim 💀

[@Rho507]

​@hmishfiddy it was popular but you know who wasn't? Lawrence Fox

[@t1metzger]

First past the post makes everyone except LAB CON virtually irrelevant. LAB CON could change this terrible system, but they hate each other LESS than the idea of opening up their duopoly to a new party/parties

[@scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501]

There was a referendum on changing the system but people frightened into believing that this could usher in fringe parties. I say good. I believe that had UKIP gained seats, people would have been able to see how useless in power they are. In a way, through Brexit and Johnson's purge of moderate Tories, UKIP style Tories did get power and the result was, as we have seen, awful. Sadly, Farage and co have capitalised on this, using Tory failure as cover for their own policy failures.

[@sfactory8253]

They would form a grand coalition if threatened. Unless of course the Tories get completely wi ped out at the next election

[@dafyddroff8084]

Any party that wins an election has won their election on the back of FPTP so they have no incentive to change it to PR.

[@dutchmapping1]

2:30 imagine being beaten by a KZbinr

[@yusaki8064]

I voted for that KZbinr. A much better choice for mayor.

[@Oxijinn_]

I knew I recognised the name Laurence Fox, I find it somewhat karmic that he lost to a KZbinr in kids sunglasses.

[@MajesticLGBT]

@@yusaki8064based 🫡

[@MajesticLGBT]

@@Oxijinn_I love it. Fox is so big headed too. like you’d think losing to a KZbinr who’s not even trying to win, and also losing £10,000 would humble him. But no. He’s still at it. Still thinks he’s super popular with the “silent majority” he’s so annoying lol. All of this is just for his ego doesn’t care about anyone or anything.

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

​@@Oxijinn_ Laurence Fox is now a KZbinr in sunglasses

[@third7715]

Looking like green and reform will get around 25% of the vote and no more than a handful of seats between them. Democrazy.

[@MatthewJBD]

Same happened to UKIP a few elections ago.

[@lenabo9929]

To suggest it is undemocratic is crazy. The system is very much democratic, it asks people in a smaller geographical district what they prefer and the candidate that has the plurality takes the seat. In enhances a two party system according to Duvergers law. It is a majoritarian system at hart, which means it result in more higher likelyhood of a government straight after election. I'm fine with the criticism of majoritarian systems. Id rather have more proportionality, like a mixed system. But to suggest it is less democratic than proportional is stupid. People need to understand the system, and understand that if they vote for a party that is polling poorly in their constituency is fine but dont get annoyed if they dont get elected you could of voted for a larger party and it would not of been wasted. But on to the issue of proportional system. They do have benefits to allow a more wider proportion of populations views to be taken into account. However, then you are very rarely voting for a party based on what policy they will implement and more if you agree with them on the whole. Because coalitions can take time to form and there is no guarantee to get the policy a proportion of society want. Additionally, people will then need to learn that the outcome of the system is also different. The largest party is not guaranteed to govern. Like in Poland, which for many in the UK would be perceived as unfair. I bring this point up because if we changed you would get conservatives winning elections then complaining why are they not in government.

[@ShieldToad-mk2rp]

@@lenabo9929I disagree

[@sfactory8253]

@@lenabo9929 why is it no-one else uses it. Fptp has brought us disaster in the UK. Even Brexit Ref was decided with the UK basically half and half.

[@MiningForPies]

@@MatthewJBDUKIPs best ever result was just over 12%.

[@marionettekent]

2:28 Losing to Niko is probably a sadder thing than losing the deposit

[@doxologist]

I guess they're called "Reclaim" because they're still trying to "reclaim" their deposit

[@RoyalLegend1000]

this is so real lol they lost to a yt who was just trolling (ok tbf he tried to make young people more intersed inn politics)

[@BlueBird-wb6kb]

You're just a hater, Reclaim would help Britain.

[@pewgarpolls]

@@BlueBird-wb6kb nah, max fosh would

[@idcgaming518]

​@pewgarpolls what about Niko?

[@boozecruiser]

@@BlueBird-wb6kb They'd help make a small number of awful people very rich at the cost of hurting British workers and harming our international reputation irrevocably

[@Superwawa1911]

Calling them “fringe parties” is hilarious they believe basically the same things as the others

[@diemasshawkins]

Niko coming in fifth in the London Mayoral Election will never not be funny

[@pewgarpolls]

agreed

[@nnkk7742]

Crazy that the guy with 20 SA cases just slipped away. Either he's a prolific rapist that escapes justice or someone organized a political attack using the judiciary. Either way someone should be in prison.

[@howtoappearincompletely9739]

For none of the charges to stick, the allegations must have been particularly weak.

[@BurningTNT]

@@howtoappearincompletely9739 depends on the nature of the allegations really. SA allegations can be hard to prove given how likely it is to be X says one thing happened, Y says it didn’t, there were no witnesses to reinforce either side. Unless someone comes clean, has accomplices that do, or someone happens to witness it and choose to say something then it comes down to he-said she-said which isn’t strong enough for.a court to convict. 20 allegations is a lot, though the wider political ongoings means it’s worth assessing whose making them and what the given occurences are. Outside a political setting, that many allegations means they’re probably not the quite unpleasant even if they mever do anything illegal.

[@BurningTNT]

*are probably unpleasant to be around even if they never do anything illegal, is what the last sentence was supposed to say

[@A_massive_wog]

@@BurningTNT And yet on the assault and breach of peace arguments he was found not guilty too.

[@TheWebstaff]

Well given Sturgeon's record of association with criminals including her criminal husband who was in charge of the purse strings, it's safe to say those at the top of the SNP all smell funny. Salmon was lucky to get out before they crashed the ship.

[@merrymachiavelli2041]

I find it interesting to the extent to which transgender issues constitute a unique wedge social topic in British politics. It splits and left and centre in a way it really doesn't in the US, because the issue is often framed more as sex-based vs. gender-based rights than as social conservatives vs. social liberals. It also touches on areas like the NHS and what constitutes hate speech, which are also obviously very different. The contrast between British and American political debate over the same topic, driven by the same cultural shifts, says a lot about other ways British and American politics differ.

[@Mom-rx5sw]

The goverment telling you what "hate speech" constitutes is insane.

[@martinholmes-ue9ko]

Most people do not care.

[@NK-vd8xi]

Left wing economic but socially moderate/conservative seems to be a very untapped demographic. If George Galloway wasn't so polarising then that formula could be deadly for labour.

[@thesmithersy]

True. The majority of the UK is conservative socially but its the economics that usually cause the divisions.

[@Gfynbcyiokbg8710]

Parties across Europe have seen a lot of success by tapping in on those voters (though they often go for far right socially)

[@BlueBird-wb6kb]

Left wing economic and conservative sounds amazing, I want a party like that for Australia though anti religious

[@RextheRebel]

It's just a shame he's backed by the Islamists.

[@boozecruiser]

@@BlueBird-wb6kb Finally, a party for kissless virgins

[@ganrimmonim]

So basically, these are vanity projects of grumpy old men.

[@rhynoctapus]

Welcome to politics

[@fusionsub]

That's how political parties have been created and will continue to be created until the end of political parties as a concept

[@howtoappearincompletely9739]

Though Fox isn't that old, that's a depressingly accurate description.

[@Wackaz]

The Workers Party has a swiftly growing youth organisation actually.

[@artrandy]

If you're from Scotland, then that ageist remark should be reported under the new hate law..........

[@ashg9023]

Gender reform has nothing to do with left or right wing, it sits on the progressive-traditionalist spectrum.

[@savethebeesplantherbs8809]

unpopular then and no seats either

[@joshuawells835]

I've read that another difference between the SNP and Alba is that Alba is not just calling for Scottish Independence, but for a Scottish Republic with a president modeled after the President of Ireland.

[@lewissmith350]

So would you say alba is maybe to the left of the snp on some issues, probably they will merge like Jim sillars party, one day, to the snp again. Unless pr suits them otherwise.

[@dairebulson7122]

Wait, is that to suggest SNP proposes keeping the monarchy for an independent Scotland, or at least is open to the idea? (And thus, Alba, being explicitly republican, is opposed to)

[@joshuawells835]

@@dairebulson7122 To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what kind of government the SNP desires for an independent Scotland. I have heard it described as repealing the 1703 Act of Union and having Charles III be King of England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland (Wales is part of the Kingdom of England) Edit-Upon further review, the SNP favors Scotland retaining the monarchy as a commonwealth realm, similar to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica (for now), etc...

[@dglenday8705]

@@joshuawells835 Thanks for looking into that. I'm in Scotland and was getting confused by the whole thing !

[@Kelfaless1]

Mainstream parties: “Who are you?” Fringe parties: “I am you but even more transphobic”

[@alistairmonro]

Like the rest of the population then?

[@ronmastrio2798]

The Lab Tory Uniparty loves troons.

[@elpito9326]

That's what pains me the most about Galloway and his party tbh...

[@alistairmonro]

@@elpito9326 trans and gays have some very strange allegiances. Mostly with people that hate you. It's bizarre.

[@cheekypop]

​@@elpito9326because he's against self-harm?

[@NoJusticeMTG]

For what it's worth - the WPGB endorsement camt from CPGB-ML, not CPGB (easy mistake to make)

[@michaelthompson679]

The peoples front of judea apparently endorsed them too

[@ComradeLibertarian]

@@michaelthompson679 you mean the judean peoples front

[@Sky-pg8jm]

@@ComradeLibertarian No it was the Popular Front

[@_MrMoney]

​@@Sky-pg8jmPEOPLE'S Front, the Popular Front are a bunch of splitters

[@Mrjmaxted0291]

The CPB actually. They sent a contingent down to support Galloway during the Rochdale by-election and ran positive coverage in the Morning Star. The CPGB-ML were originally in coalition with the Workers Party, and helped found it back in 2019. They later split due from the party due to an internal power struggle, which saw the Brars expel the sections that lead the WPB.

[@Cantskatemcd]

The mental strength to talk so neutrally about Lawrence Fox is incredibly impressive

[@uvabnormal]

please allow the smaller parties to win seats and put an end to this 2 party, corrupt, monopoly system. I'm voting for the Green party, any party willing to tax the rich and nationalise all public services including water, energy, and NHS gets by vote. Labour and Conservatives are both funded by rich private equity firms, as long as they stay in power this country will become highly unequal third world country

[@Monkey-fv2km]

to be fair though, any party that gains significant power will be corrupted by corporate influence...if the greens were in power they would see themselves gradually become a variation on Con. and Lab. with slightly differing superficial policies. And having a PR system over FPTP wouldn't improve the corruption in itself, if other countries with such systems around the world are anything to go by.

[@pewgarpolls]

NDL

[@martinholmes-ue9ko]

"Please allow ....." ?

[@joz6683]

Plaid Cymru is the third largest political party in Wales, with 11 of 60 seats in the Senedd and 202 principal local authority councillors.

[@owenfitzgerald5928]

Niko in a TLDR video

[@slopernafti902]

NDL

[@ASocialistTransGirl]

letsgo

[@zhongcena]

@@ASocialistTransGirl I've seen you before but can't remember where

[@ASocialistTransGirl]

@@zhongcena I am everywhere also in TLDR news’ comments a lot

[@Sheena1234ization]

Workers party is the best bet for this election

[@riazortho]

Ew

[@theboraxbandit9563]

Reform would be more of a tactical vote

[@MrGloop1234]

Nice joke

[@skinwalker69420]

The Tankie party? You're insane man.

[@LeafyDavid]

TUSC stand the most candidates out of all the alternatives left parties. Their omission here is disappointing.

[@user-yf4gx9lw6c]

TUSC is a great example but doesn’t have any elected MPs. For the sake of video length they’ve only focused on those that have representatives in parliament.

[@Mrjmaxted0291]

TUSC and the WPB have positive relations and observance of each other. With that said, TUSC have performed dismally up to this point, losing their deposits in contests up and down the country with their broad but ultimately rather shallow campaigns. It is actually rather fitting that TUSC have been omitted, as they're presently even more obscure that these other parties. There was a time when they could have been considered a contender in the socialist left wing space, but the WPB are now at this point on a similar footing to the Greens from a parliamentary standpoint, lifting them head and shoulders above any other fringe left wing effort.

[@DeezN1892]

TUSC have performed horribly. Everyone needs to jump ship to the BWP, a party with an actual elected MP. It's the only hope for genuine left wing represenation in british parliment as so far there is none. just liberal noise.

[@user-yf4gx9lw6c]

@@DeezN1892 The Workers party are nothing without Galloway and will struggle for support if he loses his Rochdale seat. TUSC have fielded the 6th most local election candidates in the UK. How many have the Workers party put forward?

[@allthenewsordeath5772]

The trouble with the UK system is that especially since Tony Blair, labor and the Tories have been effectively the same policies just at slightly different speeds regarding everything from immigration to taxation. The American system used to have this problem particularly under Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, however it has since fixed this issue as the Republicans and Democrats now our two very different brands of crazy, hopefully something similar can happen in Britain.

[@aidygooner]

NEVER FORGET when the NDL led by a KZbinr won more votes than Laurence Fox's Party despite more than half of NDL's fans being ineligible to vote which would've thrashed Reclaim even more. 🤣🤣🤣

[@burntheladder]

You cited a policy labour abandoned to claim they are socially liberal...

[@alistairmonro]

Labour, and the Cons, don't know what they are anymore. Just depends which way the wind is blowing on that day. It's pathetic from them, and is for putting up with it. Tony Blair ruined UK politics.

[@ThatOneGuy7550]

Lol exactly these guys are morons

[@boozecruiser]

@@alistairmonro In what way do the Conservatives flip between socialist and right wing?

[@alistairmonro]

@@boozecruiser either you don't follow politics, you don't know what left vs right is, or you are stuck in the Tories are bastard's mentality. They are all the same. Tories have been known for rebranding Labour policy. It's one of the reasons Starmer won't say anything beyond "we plan to make things better". It's all a facade there are no real options, there is no democracy.

[@sorbbae620]

@@boozecruiser well in 2017 they were saying that "being trans is not an illness" and said they were "determined to end homophobic and transphobic bullying" but 7 years later the transphobic bullying is coming directly from the leader of the party! im sure they will go back to the 2017 rhetoric the moment being hateful and scapegoating stops working

[@socialistsolidarity]

Labour needs to be replaced by a 'real' left-wing party. Labour is not left anymore, I hasn't been for the past 14 years.

[@RextheRebel]

Workers Party of Britain is the closest thing to a "real" left wing party. It's just extremely disappointing it's backed by the very ppl who need to be removed from British shores.

[@aimansafwan1997]

​​@@RextheRebel ok pro-genocide sadist.

[@50_Pence]

PR NOW!

[@lenabo9929]

You want PR what version because it matters. Full proportionality, or more of a mixed system like Scotland uses. I support having more proportionality, however, we need to agree on the system between all parties. And reform needs to wider than that. England in particular needs to take devolution much more seriously. The whole of the UK should either be federalised or have devolution. Westminster has far too much power. The lords need overhaul unsure best root for that.

[@jackmonaghan8477]

Electoral reform in general has been overdue for a while now. Unfortunately, neither of the two parties want it because that would mean the duopoly gets broken and they would have to start listening to the British public instead of their rich mates in the media, private sector and lobby groups. Hence why you'd have the Labour right and so-called "moderate" Tories doom-mongering about Reform UK getting seats (when in reality, they're more scared of the Greens and independent leftist parties) and the Tory hard right fearmongering about the "hard left" gaining seats (as demonstrated by Jacob Rees-Mogg's utter farce of a "case" against it).

[@dafyddroff8084]

@@lenabo9929100% agree

[@マウリツィオ-g6e]

What about the Loony party? Big omission!

[@owenfitzgerald5928]

They arent new

[@angiki9988]

They are much too dignified a party to be lumped in with this lot.

[@a-sea-of-salad5040]

this video wasn't about major parties

[@bluestarsaberstarwarsfan3838]

They already did a video years back I believe

[@tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957]

which one? ho ho ho

[@EdinburghPokemon]

Weird to cite the Workers Party opposition to self-ID as an example of how they are more socially conservative than Labour, given that Labour also opposes self-ID, isn't it?

[@Wackaz]

The Workers Party is socially conservative insofar as they represent blue collar working class values: traditional family values, community, having our own industry, socialist patriotism, against liberal identity politics, against gender ideology, etc. A conservative socialism, if you will.

[@Darkest_matter]

@@Wackaz That sounds like a IDEAL world.

[@lurmpfh0ne]

​@@Darkest_matteryeah ideal for stupid people

[@ronmastrio2798]

@@Darkest_matter Yeah a national socialism

[@EdinburghPokemon]

@@Wackaz Oh right, so just a different economic approach to the usual right-wing politics.

[@shanekent4896]

When 1st past the post is still used. Britian is still a 2 party system.

[@wenterinfaer1656]

One-party system - totalitarian Two-party system - democracy

[@gothicgolem2947]

I would say two and a half given minority goverments

[@Balibaliadashi]

@@wenterinfaer1656The best one party system is a two party system.

[@gillespaling7039]

@@wenterinfaer1656South Africa has a one party system.

[@DanielGalimidi]

You know a party is fringe when the TLDR News video about it has a photo of the host making a funny face that screams "Why are we even talking about this?", rather than a photo of any of the parties' leaders.

[@bjiornbjiorn]

A slight problem for your narrative here, Alex Salmond didn't found Alba: it was founded by Laurie Flynn. Alec was just its first leader.

[@dkoda840]

That seems like a mistake not a “problem in a narrative.”

[@bjiornbjiorn]

@@dkoda840 Aye, it's a mistake but one that fundamentally changes the character of the discussion and therefore creates a false narrative. They're arguing that the Alba party was founded as a result of the personal fallout between Salmond and Sturgeon (Fish fight!). However, that ignores the fact that the Alba party was actually formed due to a broader feeling of dissatisfaction with the SNP's independence strategy and a lack of accountability within the leadership team.

[@dkoda840]

@@bjiornbjiorn I replied to this comment before that section came up I watched the full video and yea I agree it does mess with the narrative. Granted I haven’t looked into the reason Laurie Flynn started the party so it could be a similar reason but yea this mistake does change the discussion.

[@aktuellyattee8265]

Every video with Ben looking confused in the thumbnail is automatically a great video.

[@97Corvi]

1:30 wait, Isn't that the Max Fosh antagoist in the race for the Mayor of London ?!?!?!

[@arankenrick7175]

When talking about Politics please actually say what the opinions they were censured on, not just the topic they had an opinion on.

[@oatdilemma6395]

More parties the better, Labour and the Tories have failed us too many times.

[@kieranmilner4208]

Sadly if one doesn’t get enough votes the two fuckwit ones will stay on top it should of been a third party not 3 as it spreads out the votes too much

[@armaan6101]

More parties = more civil wars in prime minister questions, and time wasting as several parties are just remixes of each other

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

You forgot the 'lets have another party party'

[@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l]

That sounds like a party Boris would get behind.

[@RoyalLegend1000]

@@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l lol

[@IdunRedstone]

It's so funny seeing the mayor election where Niko Omilana (look up on youtube if you don't know him) beat Laurence Fox

[@garywhapples7172]

Funny seeing London falling to its knees hahaha

[@Bagofnowt]

​@@garywhapples7172 I'd be more worried about London if they thought Laurence Fox spoke any sense

[@sfactory8253]

He was way below Count Binface

[@jamesormondroyd1009]

@@garywhapples7172except London and the south east are the only net contributors to the exchequer, so if you don’t live in London then London is effectively subsidising your local services

[@garywhapples7172]

@@jamesormondroyd1009 some boroughs of London ie Newham spend 9 times more than they contribute. (look it up) I live just outside of London and I can say with certainty that we're huge contributors, probably funding places like Newham, Tower hamlets etc

[@neoyuls]

"as a result, he lost his 10,000 election deposit" is cold

[@kwanlinus6999]

What TLDR fails to point out is that unlike most left-wing party in Britain, the WPGB is staunchly-unionist and is against regional autonomy. So basically, the WPGB is the closest thing Britain has to the CPSU

[@elpito9326]

But the Bolsheviks created the different Soviet republics which had absolutely no autonomy before, other than whatever the feudal system granted them (and that was based on feudal posessions rather than culture). Without the USSR, it's likely that Belarusian, Kazakh and many other languages would either be extinct or in a far worse position than nowadays.

[@kwanlinus6999]

@@elpito9326 Despite ethnic minorities given some right to manage their own republics, it didn't stop the central policy of Russification occuring in the non-Russian republics

[@Jnthnpg]

The gender/trans debate isn’t left vs right. Plenty of left wing parties are opposed to reforms and plenty of right wing folk are fine with the reform. It’s a bit off to say that Alba is “right wing” on issues to the SNP because they oppose that legislation.

[@hollytalmage]

Dude it's crazy how Gender just breaks UK politics

[@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303]

It sadly makes perfect sense when you consider the history of feminism in the UK. While feminism outside of the UK (broadly) aligned itself with the queer theory movement and intersectional feminism, British feminism dove deep into so-called "gender critical" strands of the movement, to the point of allying with anti-abortion far right movements This broadly lead progressivism in Britain to lag behind in terms of trans rights

[@wvvwwvwvv]

@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 "While feminism outside of the UK (broadly) aligned itself with the queer theory movement" 🤣 Talk to the middle east, Asia and south America.

[@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303]

@@wvvwwvwvv middle eastern progressivism is very much queer friendly, it's just... Very very non-prevalent considering the various governments' stances Not particularly familiar with South American or Asian progressive movements so I won't comment on that

[@Darkest_matter]

@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 Anti-abortion is good bruh. it shows you actually are responsible. you can't always just fuck around..... sometimes, you gotta fuck around and find out.

[@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303]

@@Darkest_matter you won't convince a woman with this argument lol If you want to ban abortion your target is either to reduce the amount of people having sex or to control women's bodies. Which, as targets, are respectively impossible/useless and abhorrent

[@Top-Lip]

It's very easy to look at the UK and assume we have a two party system; except we don't, we have a one patry system where everyone suspiciously keeps voting for the same government and the opposition plays the role of it's own opposition.

[@wwanimator]

Guys check out our fringe political parties, we’ve got: The racist The racist The racist

[@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303]

The racist The racist and also a TERF The racist

[@prolarka]

Good. Just like the population.

[@THTB_lol]

its more like racist tories, racist labour, racist snp

[@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303]

@@THTB_lol the Tories are already the racist Tories

[@THTB_lol]

@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 but somehow reclaim are more racist

[@mcswordfish]

Can I please urge you to learn how to pronounce Alba before your next video mentioning them. Alba is the Gaelic name for Scotland and it hurts our ears to hear it mispronounced (though not helped by the fact that half the knuckle-draggers in that party cannae pronounce it either)

[@gammamaster1894]

I think the SDP is likely a more serious political force than Reclaim

[@MichaelGGarry]

But aren't new.

[@mehmehmeh360]

when the two main parties are so mediocre and controlled, its no wonder that other "fringe" parties tend to pop up.

[@hairyhaggis7431]

Three parties that are personality cults

[@shamanahaboolist]

lol as if any of the other parties are any different. It's politics. Plus the workers party isn't by any objective standard. Their manifesto is the most intelligent on offer.

[@satoshikamiya4636]

@@shamanahaboolist nah G... check yourself. being anti EU and anti NATO is such a big turnoff, since obviously brexit was bad and nato is beneficial to our national security. If i had to sacrifice my life to stop the workers party being in office, I'd do it because of how dangerous they would be. a socialist workers party that doesn't want to do suicidal things would be much more appropriate.

[@Britishdarnlib]

​@@shamanahaboolistthe difference between these 3 parties and the major ones are that these 3 are known primarily for one person, while, say, Labour is known more for..other things Actually I'm going to stop because idk what I'm trying to say

[@shamanahaboolist]

@@Britishdarnlib lol Fair enough bud. Yeah... Just sit back and enjoy the desperation involved in making your primary criticism of a politician being that people like their personality. 😂

[@lukefleetwood7958]

@@shamanahaboolist The Worker's party's manifesto is intelligent XD. That's a take. They are a party of fifth columnists who want to be friends with all our enemies like Russia and Palestine while abandoning the best defensive alliance in the world while pandering to the backwards minority of Muslims.

[@jorgeadonay-ke1xu]

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[@creatoruser736]

2:34 Why do you use a graphic of US dollars when talking about British pounds?

[@nathangamble125]

Reclaim: Reform, but conspiracy theorists Workers: Labour, but anti-Israel Alba: SNP, but without gender pandering

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

4:16 The US wants to desperately extradite Julian Assange, what's the conspiracy?

[@thetreelander7378]

the people who run the channel are left wing so they chuck that word around like its a tennis ball for a dog.

[@bjiornbjiorn]

@@thetreelander7378 Just to be clear, the video doesn't use the word conspiracy when talking about Galloway: that's the OP's word choice.

[@bjiornbjiorn]

If there was any conspiracy theory around Assange it was that the sexual assault charges in Sweden had been invented so that he would be arrested and then subsequently extradited to the USA. Now, I don't think anyone would dispute that that is what would probably happen, especially given the USA's refusal to rule out extraditing Assange from Sweden at the time. However I think it crosses the line when you argue that the sexual assault charges were deliberately fabricated without any real evidence or a court case. If anything, at the time, I was angry with the USA because, by refusing to rule out extradition, they were not only denying Assange the opportunity to try and clear his name, which he said he wanted to do at the time, but they also effectively denied his accusers their opportunity to seek justice in court.

[@thetreelander7378]

@@bjiornbjiorn yeah i know that but this channel chucks it about a bit to much for it to be used by its actual meaning. call me cynical.

[@Birthdayboytablet]

​@@thetreelander7378You're literally describing criticism of a left wing party as left wing bias. Powerful mind.

[@iGamezRo]

Alba also said they specifically want a republican Scotland. The SNP isn't too sure. Nicola Sturgeon is a convinced monarchist, for example. Humza Yousaf may lean a bit republican because at a football game between Scotland and England, when English fans sang "God Save the King", some Scots booed, with Yousaf, who was present, smugging.

[@yousefbhacker8160]

6:30 it's disingenuous to call opposition to trans ideology "right wing". That's proven by the Workers Party and Alba, just as you say in this video. It's perfectly reasonable to be left of centre and oppose that ideology as most rational people in this country do.

[@corpclarke]

"It's very easy to look at the UK and assume we have a two party system." Only if you've been absolutely paying no attention whatsoever 🤣 in the last 15 years we've have one formal coalition government, one confidence and supply government, a small party running Scotland all that time, a minor party winning every EU Parliament election in the UK, and a minor party blocking May's Brexit deal. What a way to open the video 😅

[@Shlepp]

Even though these three look pretty bad, I still think it’s good to have more competition other than the two main parties.

[@THTB_lol]

yea, we got racist conservatives, racist labour, and racist snp

[@Shlepp]

@@THTB_lol they didn’t seem racist. Unless you’re one of those people who consider criticism or being against illegal immigration as being “racist”

[@THTB_lol]

@@Shlepp nice dogwhistle

[@Shlepp]

@@THTB_lol I’d take that as a yes then. Im sorry for you

[@THTB_lol]

@@Shlepp your dogwhistle is broken and can now be heard as racism by everyone

[@thejimmydanly]

Worker's Party just sounds like someone wanted to create a party with the objectively worst policies

[@kapitankapital6580]

It's fascinating reading the comments and seeing just how ignorant a lot of the people who watch these videos are of alternative political views.

[@TwinRiver100]

5:11 Alex Salmond hey i remember this guy they made a parody of him as Shrek! 😆

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

Lol, if you cant do your paperwork then you dont get to be mayor

[@mylo7400]

I think it would be more accurate to place economic and social policies on separate spectrums. Your current graphic is incapable of representing a socially conservative economically leftwing party, like the Social Democratic Party.

[@cneofficial3958]

Everytime I watch content about the UK, I have to remind myself that the US has our colors inverted, blue= liberal, red= conservative

[@ethanfarmisa1439]

Red has been the colour of left wing movements globally for a while

[@cneofficial3958]

@@ethanfarmisa1439 yeah it’s just the opposite in the US which always throughs me off.

[@MiningForPies]

There is no left wing in the US. The dems world be on the right of the Tory party

[@RoyalLegend1000]

@@cneofficial3958 you guys used to have red/republicans for liberal, before the great switch

[@martinholmes-ue9ko]

?

[@luxushauseragency]

The video on Britain's New Fringe Parties gives us a good look at the UK's political scene. But, looking ahead, the big question is how the UK can create a stable and growing future. With big changes coming from AI technology, central bank digital currencies and the escalating tensions in conflict zones, every political party faces tough challenges. Stability, a clear plan, and agreement among MPs on the UK's direction are key. We need to learn from the Brexit mess and not expect quick fixes for deep-rooted problems. Also, the media's role is crucial. Right now, they're pushing the idea that the Labour Party will be the next government because of their lead in polls. But in reality, nothing is guaranteed in politics. In short, the UK needs to focus on long-term solutions and be careful with how the media shapes our view of politics.

[@UKcuber]

You missed the SDP. They are contesting about 100 seats at the next election.

[@MichaelGGarry]

They aren't new.

[@blisseyran-dom6822]

I can't see any of these parties winning a single seat between them.

[@MiningForPies]

I’d be surprised if Galloway even bothers standing in Rochdale at the election. He has form of wining by-elections and running away when it’s no longer a protest vote

[@AndrewRTurvey]

Remarkable that all three of these parties are socially conservative

[@stephengray1344]

it's not particularly surprising. The internet has basically forced American culture war issues onto the political agenda here, moving the focus away from bread-and-butter issues. And almost all of the mainstream parties are on one side of those issues, leaving social conservatism as the obvious gap to fill. The only mainstream party that is clearly socially conservative is the DUP. The Conservatives are socially conservative on some issues, but have managed to give their base the impression that they are only paying lip-service to social conservatism on those issues. That said, these parties are quite difficult .Galloway isn't playing to the large proportion of the population who are left-wing on economics but socially conservative, he's playing specifically to the Muslim vote. Salmond's party is largely a vanity project, but reflects the fact that the SNP vote is all over the place on issues other than independence. And Reclaim are basically just a particularly prominent UKIP splinter group.

[@PiousMoltar]

They wouldn't have been considered so 20 years ago...

[@NotEvenOneShit]

@@PiousMoltar I hate to be the one that points it out but yeah... that's how conservatism tends to go. 20 years ago gay marriage had only been legal for a year and there was still considerable opposition to it. Remaining progressive requires that you adapt to new information and listen to new points of view. If Your attitude would be more at home in an older and more conservative world then that attitude is by definition leaning towards conservatism. in 1924 you could have said "20 years ago i wouldn't have been seen as socially conservative to support slave ownership." Times arrow keeps marching on and it is important to allow progress to happen in spite of the fact you won't always be immediately comfortable with it. You will have concerns. it will seem new and strange and scary. You work through that and try to make life better for those who haven't had a chance to be heard. Change is necessary and fundamentaly benefits social mobility for everyone. Not all that is new will work out but it is worth hearing out those new ideas and challenging old ideas.

[@boozecruiser]

@@PiousMoltar They would have. The overton window has moved right and the "mainstream" right wing parties are more extreme. The mainstream "left wing" parties are holding steady or have even shifted rightwards since the 80s

[@TrumpforPalestine2024]

Since when were communists conservative?

[@RTWuk]

Why have so many commentators adopted the American 'mayORal' and 'elecTORal'? It's bad enough that everyone now says 'REEsearch' (rather than 'mare-al', 'elECtoral' and 'ri-search').

[@pewgarpolls]

i see more comments on niko omilano

[@Kaizen917]

Reminds me of countries that segregate into one-policy fringe parties that just erode the whole system to the point that people either stop caring about politics (to make matters even worse) or, even if they did, couldnt figure out who stands for what.

[@3whatscookin]

2:31 watching a legitimate political party lose to Niko Omilana says all you need to know about our politics

[@Rocopherus]

big up the NDL

[@JasonAtlas]

Only good party these days.

[@humanwhodoesstuffindeed]

niko could run the uk better than our past 5 prime ministers

[@kieferngruen]

For all American viewers: „Britain’s New Bang Parties Explained“. You’re welcome.

[@yusaki8064]

2:29 NDL RISE UP!!!

[@ThomasAndRandomRobloxGames]

yesssma'am

[@ash_11117]

George Galloway lost his seat

[@charlie7466]

2:28 Niko lmao

[@sunray83b]

You forgot to mention Green party's stance in Scotland. Scotland has a problem in that It has many Labour run councils with little to no scrutiny, who blame SNP & Green Party, who in turn blame Westminster, who in turn blame Brexit, Covid, Ukraine etc.

[@jamie59685]

Its a sad state of affairs when believing that men are men and women are women is considered right wing.

[@palindromee]

Would love another one of these looking at even more of the smaller parties like SDP. You do such a good job of just telling all the info,

[@reheyesd8666]

Defo a time for change No labour and no Tories.

[@jakel8627]

You're good at saying what you don't want. But when given the opportunity to govern, you make a mess of it.

[@WhichDoctor1]

We need proportional representation first. Otherwise even if both big parties are somehow brought down they will just be replaced by two new equally big parties fighting to win over middle ground voters and enacting policies for their millionaire funders. That's just the outcome our electoral system is set up to produce. If you want change you have to change the rules of the game, not just replace the playing pieces

[@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l]

Given the options: I much rather be governed by a party with SOME experience rather than none. This is like giving the responsibility to a 5 year old and being shocked that they left the oven on.

[@Justin-ee1mv]

2:29 I can’t American style Republican party but Uk edition lost to a KZbin

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

4:06 What was the comment made about Iraq exactly?

[@MiningForPies]

Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability, and I want you to know that we are with you, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-Quds [until victory, until Jerusalem]. Galloway is a really nasty piece of work.

[@kwanlinus6999]

@@MiningForPies Galloway is basically the orthodox British tankie whose greatest idol is Joseph Stalin

[@adi6293]

I will vote for anyone who is against PC and all the gender nonsense !!

[@nathanh5448]

How miserable.

[@adi6293]

@@nathanh5448 And why is that? 🤔😂😂

[@nathanh5448]

@@adi6293 Because with literally all the shit happening in the world, all the problems, your main priority is "PC and gender nonsense". Grow up.

[@Anduz001]

I'd like to know how exactly you define gender critical viewpoints as left or right wing? What metric is this based on? Unless you're using bias to align 'right wing' with negative and 'left wing ' with positive positions? Left wing polices in the US for example (and to a lesser degree in the UK) attempt to divide people into ideological, intersectional groups by race, gender and ethnicity, amongst a growing number of sub groups and offshoots. By your logic, it would seem as though left wingers support segregation!?

[@wolfeh66]

"Left wing polices in the US for example (and to a lesser degree in the UK) attempt to divide people into ideological, intersectional groups by race, gender and ethnicity, amongst a growing number of sub groups and offshoots." That's an interesting way to look at it but the intention is to define (not divide) groups so that underrepresented or marginalised groups can be heard. Previously some of these groups had 0% power but broadly speaking the aim is to give them enough power to be representative of their population (e.g. 10% power for 10% of the population). Sometimes this comes in the form of encouraging (never requiring) selecting members from underrepresented groups for positions of authority/power. Gender critical viewpoints are socially conservative, as opposed to being socially progressive. Right wing politics is generally socially conservative (no always, see the Worker's Party in this video).

[@THTB_lol]

tories are transphobic, labour less so

[@ambivvvvvvvvvalence]

Weird representation of galloway there. You know his tweet was not anti semetic. Tf you become?

[@armaan6101]

Literally just corbins party but with muslims

[@sladetuner8661]

George Galloway is a nut

[@DeezN1892]

Galloway is pro human

[@sladetuner8661]

If it benefit’s his political causes, just saying

[@fiyum333]

@@DeezN1892 >anti-NATO and anti-EU >"pro-human"

[@DeezN1892]

@@fiyum333 member states in the EU and especially NATO have orchestrated the most awful atrocities in the history of the entire planet across the 20th century The proxy wars, overthrowing elected governments, electing the fash in South America by sponsoring assassinations. God it’s so awful. Either you’re educated on it or you better get educated These cartels don’t like you. Why are you loyal to them?

[@DeezN1892]

@@fiyum333 hes anti EU because of the literal neo-imperialism they orchestrate across Africa. You have been duped by claims of “diversity and inclusion” whilst multi-national European companies have kids in Africa enslaved in gold mines

[@user-op6mp2gl3r]

small note, Ali didn't have the whip withdrawn bc he's not an MP he was suspended from the party

[@RockMusicEnjoyer]

Parties are best described not as left or right, but as socially left/right and economically left/right. The nazis, for example, were economically left wing, but socially, couldn't be further right. Labour and the Conservatives barely differ on social policy these days, both being near the centre, but Labour is still further left economically.

[@Hsalf904]

I don’t know much about British politics but I find it hard to believe the workers party is socially conservative

[@Jack-Oates]

It is. Its anti-immigration, anti-trans rights, its leadership had expressed some homophobic views, there anti-Net zero, and very against 'wokeness'. There's other party's that are equally left-wing economically but soically liberal though like the TUSC.

[@Hsalf904]

@@Jack-Oates Cringe

[@cg_plays]

​@@Hsalf904what do you mean cringe? He is explaining different parties beliefs. Are you 5 years old or something

[@MemekingJag]

The mainstream socialist party in the UK is the Labour party, which have notably taken increasingly progressive views socially. A lot of working class families hold traditional views and feelings, especially for the Muslim population Galloway largely dominates. Compared to the other mainstream parties in the UK, the Workers party is socially conservative.

[@LongTran-kp3kz]

Dood. What the hell is up with this pendulum effect? History has shown us, REPEATEDLY, that overly conservative and/or right-wing governments and policies NEVER end well.... for anyone but the douchebags in charge. It's bad enough seeing it here in the US, but I thought Europe would know better than to go down that rabbit hole again...

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

Well we're about to swing back to the left wing party, but a lot of Europe is swinging to the right. When you've only got 2 main parties that's what's going to happen.

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

I wouldn't call labour, left wing. ​@@chesterdonnelly1212

[@pretty7995]

@@chesterdonnelly1212A left wing party that won’t change anything

[@useodyseeorbitchute9450]

Right now we're observing left wing mass migration and deindustrialization policies not going specially well and causing backslash...

[@blubblewubble]

​@@user-op8fg3ny3jlabour can be left wing but under starmer it's definitely a centre party (or at least centre left) starmer can't even support anything. He literally can't bring himself to say what a woman is (a construct if anyone's wondering)

[@JulieTasker]

Standing as a candidate shouldn’t need any payments so that each citizen may stand in any election that they’re eligible for.

[@delighted2849]

its interesting that criticizing israel is always antisemitic, even if its about their ethics and conduct. Whats the word for being against someone who kills babies, women, civilians and their own people if caught in the crossfire?

[@NotEvenOneShit]

Thats not what happened here. I'm pro palestine and highly critical of isreal. I believe they are commiting war crimes. I have experienced false allegations of antisemitism. The difference is that galloway isn't promoting just valid criticism of isreal but also truly bizzare conspiracy theories implying a jewish social elite that control western politics. It is very important to seperate these two things. There is ne secret kabal. This is just a wealthy nation attacking an impoverished one. If isreal was christian it would likely be doing the exact same thing. The enemy of your enemy is NOT your freind. Supporting palestine does not require the belief of antisemitic conspiracy theory.

[@braziliantsar]

The workers party reminds me of the old brazilian workers party. Stood for more "socially conservative" ideas till the 90's

[@isabelstokes4042]

If Galloway is pro-Muslim then I'm anti-George Galloway.

[@TheZett]

Based

[@TheWaveGoodbye-Music]

Deport racists to rawanda

[@k.umquat8604]

Most muslims aren't evil. And I'm an apostate

[@CyrilleParis]

Reclaim party: I would laugh if I were the kind of guy who laughs at psychatrically dammaged or challenged people

[@RJH755]

Wish I could support the Workers Party but their transphobia and climate denial are a deal breaker

[@Dendarang]

Their climate denial seems weird but I guess it's partly to appeal to Red Wall voters and partly because they, as commies, are in favor of industry in Britain at any expense.

[@trashcanthertrdman8459]

It seems that every new left wing party is like this. BSW is a new German party that also fits this description.

[@ronmastrio2798]

Lol if you want trans people and net zero bullshit you might be one of the only people that actually like Labour an the Tories.

[@RJH755]

@@ronmastrio2798 Nah Corbyn was the last hope for the UK, yall are on track to become like Poland or pre Ukraine invasion Russia in a few decades

[@THTB_lol]

@@ronmastrio2798 you, are alone

[@mndrew1]

That's a lot of 'controversial' statements and positions attributed to Galloway with absolutely no detail about which direction he actually took on those issues. From this breakdown he could be anything from a raging antisemite to a mild anti-genocide protester.

[@PiousMoltar]

I think they made it pretty clear where he stands on that front. Had to pause the video to see what was so "controversial" that he said about Julian Assange though.