British 1944 Pattern Water Bottles and Carriers

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Жыл бұрын

A quick look at the variations in the design of 1944 Pattern water bottle.
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@jeremyholt4740 2 ай бұрын

Another reason for the wide mouth was to avoid the mouth from freezing which was a big problem for later US plastic water bottles with much narrower mouths. The pouch was popular for SF belt kits in the 1980s but with the metal removed at the top

@filupe01 Жыл бұрын

Great piece of kit. The wider neck made it easy to pour electrolyte powder in (yeah, I know that's a no-no now). On one ex, our water resup got delayed and we had to source our own water. It was damned hot and in the tropics. Ended up boiling water in dixies and cups canteen and pouring it straight into the waterbottles then left in a running stream to cool - something I'd be hesitant to do with a plastic waterbottle ...

@protectandsurvivelivinghis3206 Жыл бұрын

Interestingly the carriers were used as a belt pouch for small kit by the Rescue Section of the Civil Defence Corps in the 50s and 60s, containing 4 Mine Dressings (basically a bandage with a large piece of cotton wool attached) a pair of goggles, a small tin of plasters (apparently for the Crews themselves to prevent fallout dust getting into open wounds) and a two cell electric torch, the water bottle itself was stowed in the so called "first aid pouch" which was actually a 1937 pattern haversack.

@davidsayer3325 Жыл бұрын

Used both the carrier and 44 mug with 58 webbing during my service , thanks again for the video Simon.

@codyjames1952 Жыл бұрын

I now know that i got a first gen 1944 Water Bottles and cup i have had it for 15 years . i just got to get a carriers for it now thank you .

@pierevojzola9737 Жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks for the walk down memory lane. My experience of water bottles started with the one bottle in a 37 pattern strap harness ( blue enamel bottle, I think) covered with felt and had a cork stopper, issued in Kenya. Second issue was two bottles with noisy stopper caps just like you showed on 44 pattern webbing used in Far East. Third issue was the updated metal bottles but used with 58 pattern webbing and sometimes we scrounged a third bottle with plastic cup when in the Gulf and The Gulf states. The fourth issue was NZ webbing pattern (a mixture of scrounged gear) where I brought my Para issued 58 pattern webbing and scrounged two more bottles for deployment to Vietnam, not unusual to carry 4 bottles of water as we did a lot of sweating (and I thought Malaya was hot!). Never could get the water to taste palatable out of any water bottle ever issued! Cheers mate. Harera

@gorbalsboy Жыл бұрын

An excellent design, easily the best of early load carrying systems and the vid was as good as ever

@njmaxton4530 Жыл бұрын

For Exercise Crusader (1980) I got issued a 44 pattern bottle and carrier to supplement my 58 pattern one. Had to hand it back at Endex. I have a later pattern bottle still. I always thought the para cord was a makeshift repair as the chain had broken. Well done and thanks for your videos.

@andrewbirch5738 Жыл бұрын

I didn't use the bottle, but I did use the metal cup instead of the '58 plastic cup, from 1990 to 96, it was great for when when boil in the bag came in 24hr rations, I used them to heat the meals. Mind, I used a little gas cooker too instead of the hexamine cooker.

@bill8784 Жыл бұрын

I was initially a bit perplexed by this because the only water bottles I had come across were the felt covered ones in the CCF and the black plastic ones with the army both in the 1970s.

@michaelamos4651 Жыл бұрын

Great video as usual. I feel the m1910 system carrier hooks were very nearly perfect and the canteen especially so. Compared to other designs of the time very advanced 👍

@leighneil Жыл бұрын

Hey Mate. There is a variation in carrier that was issued to Fijian Army, It does not have the 1910 hook or belt loop, but rather it has two 'C' hooks. I have a mint example in my collection. It has Fijian defence ownership marks, but no manufacturing information. However due to the materials used and the quality of manufacture, I suspect it was British made for Fiji.

@RiflemanMoore Жыл бұрын

Very interesting, I was aware of the variant made for Denmark but not for Fiji, I'll have to keep an eye out for an example!

@473specop Жыл бұрын

Surprised the belt loop was tight on your pouch, never found the numerous ones I used had that problem. Now I know why the metal topped bottles were not so good, they were missing the rubber bottle washer. I got hold of and used the Danish army plastic bottle with the mug as a better alternative.

@66kbm Жыл бұрын

Would the tightness of the belt loop be due to different manufacturers? I have experienced similar with Dutch pistol holsters having the M1910 hanger but a loop too small to pass the "Common" web belt through. Maybee the loop was designed for a different sized/type belt? that never saw the light of day? If not, then its some of the laziest quality control of Military procurement, or wrong specs in design given to a company to produce these. Just a thought.

@RiflemanMoore Жыл бұрын

Very possibly manufacturing variations as some have mentioned having no problem with their examples.

@richh6597 Жыл бұрын

Hi Just for info as part of 5 Airborne Bde we where issued with the 44 patt water bottle. And carrier as part of our 58 patt webbing and this continued until the sad end of 58 webbing.

@andymoss Жыл бұрын

I’ve still got my belt kit incl. 44 pattern carrier, bottle, and mug.

@A14b19 Жыл бұрын

Hai I’ve got one but no cup canteen been used to boil water cous it looks like a kettle

@davecoleman2417 Жыл бұрын

I've been l9oking all over for the water bottle,do you have any spares or a contact?

@andrewcombe8907 Жыл бұрын

I for one have never understood why the British moved away from the 44 pattern water bottle with canteen cup. The ensemble was versatile, functional and easily accessible by the user and could be used to cook in the field. This contrasts with the 58 pattern plastic bottle with plastic cup that required cooking to be done using the mess tins while the carrier was less than ideal.