British Army chief felt 'emotional tug' seeing Challenger 2 destroyed in Ukraine

The head of the British Army said he felt an "emotional tug" seeing footage of a destroyed UK Challenger 2 burning in Ukraine - the first lost to enemy action.
Chief of the General Staff General Sir Patrick Sanders said it's likely he has been on board that tank and said soldiers have a "deep affection" for the vehicles and equipment they operate.
The 62.5-tonne tank, one of fourteen given to Ukraine by the UK, was earlier this week hit by a mine before being struck by a Russian suicide drone, Western officials said.
All crew members survived, with Gen Sir Patrick hailing the Challenger 2 as the best-protected tank in the world.
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[@arthurtwoshedsjackson6266]

We’ve all had an emotional tug at one time or another

[@user-ze9to3ef1f]

😂😂😂

[@arthurtwoshedsjackson6266]

@@user-ze9to3ef1f You know what I’m talking about 🤣

[@zattefles]

@@user-ze9to3ef1f

[@euskryhtbnfvse4i7ehs4hnvf]

I was falling over myself to be the first person to get in and type this!!

[@arthurtwoshedsjackson6266]

@@euskryhtbnfvse4i7ehs4hnvf Sorry 🤣

[@NzTings]

Emotional seeing it finally in a real war... He should be proud

[@GegeDxD]

😅😂

[@dr.luthersan3064]

Yeah and it was destroyed by a Russian "Shovel" 😂 great job uk

[@schnitzel_enjoyer]

"Challenger 2 is indestructible, best tank ever." Russian SHOVEL: I did not know that.

[@METALIKBRAT]

those Russian showels with washing machine chips have proven to be extremely dangerous

[@pleaseignore3055]

They have proven to be excellent fodder, little else.

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

@@pleaseignore3055 How are weapons used as fodder? Can you elaborate?

[@bobilaforce8252]

👍👏🥴😂

[@insertyournamehere4328]

*EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!!*

[@jethroarnaiz2216]

You beat me to it...

[@gk189]

😂😂😂👍🏻

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

Who knew that building up hype without substantial, legitimate logic or facts behind it, could result in severe disappointment? Who knew?

[@ryansoe1829]

When you have Asian parents 😂😂

[@jos3064]

No tank is invincible. Each can be knocked out, disabled or destroyed. Even the heavy tanks in ww2 were not inpenetrable.

[@dexterplameras3249]

Well said. I'd add that any war the west has fought is vastly different to how Ukraine has had to fight this war. Western forces would have first gained air superiority to ensure the skies are uncontested, followed by weeks of bombing which would limit the opponents ability to lay mines, followed by a ground assault. That didn't happen in Ukraine due to its limited Soviet equipment, so tanks face a much more dangerous set of circumstances in Ukraine.

[@komisiantikorupsikoruptord6257]

😂this tank is game changer. Can pus Russia back to krimea

[@NzTings]

You said last month they were beast and would breakthrough with devastating effect.

[@dexterplameras3249]

@@komisiantikorupsikoruptord6257 Russia: We take Ukraine using a special military operation. 2,000 tank losses later, 70,000 dead, 120,000 wounded. Russia: Still a special military operation , but we need to mobilize 300,000 more troops. Russias idea of a game changer, are human wave attacks with frozen potatoes.

[@Bookmaterial2618]

@@dexterplameras3249 They took out challenger 2 with frozen potatoes😮😮😮

[@dedyzee]

Western tanks are only suitable against Afghan opium farmers 😂😂😂😂

[@zersky495]

Not even lol. first thing Taliban did was shut down the western backed opium farms lmao. No more drugs from that section of the world

[@dangerman01582]

Time for the mighty Abrams to be introduced to the frontline and destroyed

[@JK-dv3qe]

lots of ukranian 'single' mothers on OF. they need tha moneis (im not giving it, sry)@@Dnelleb. (dad was sent by globalists to die for them. it is tragic, to be honest)

[@1am2strong4you]

​​@@Dnelleb.same for Ukrainian kids in Poland, Czech or wherever they are

[@1am2strong4you]

@@Dnelleb. whooo hoo a lost case I see poor victim of West propaganda 🥲🥲🥲

[@sneakydragon2352]

@@1am2strong4you damn i forgot, the special operation isn't an invasion, you're right.

[@ucc930ml]

Composite armor, referred to as chobham armor, is described as having a high degree of defensive performance

[@mikestrohlein4187]

All tanks can be destroyed, including the Challenger and Abrams. Anti tank weapons are way ahead of tank armor technologies.

[@deidresable]

I tho they are the game changer that can win a war anytime and anywhere

[@shsh-he5qg]

As beggingski said about the lost city of bakhmut ! It now lives in our hearts 😂 these tanks can now live in English hearts 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

I strongly urge the affected victims to ask Forbes for their money and optimism back. See this headline from May 2023 for example: "Ukraine’s Challenger 2 Tanks Can Plow Right Through Russian Fortifications"

[@Craig-fl8jj]

Its 2 emotional tugs now lol

[@JK-dv3qe]

2x

[@bugattieb110ss]

'Emotional Tug' - what an embarrassment! They've encountered an enemy that for the first time is actually armed with more than a pair of sandals and an AK47!

[@sneakydragon2352]

and RPGs, an RPG can take out any tank if placed correctly. it's how you use a tool, not how good it is. It also wouldn't have made a difference, from what i can tell it was a mine that blew it up, would have happened in Antarctica too fighting against penguins, if somehow the penguins dropped the mine on the road

[@bojangles4071]

"Everybody has a plan until they get hit by Kornet ATGM" ~ Mike Kornet

[@dougcoombes8497]

"Putin had a plan to take all of Ukraine in a week until hit by reality"- Volodymyr "I need ammo not a ride" Zelenskyy

[@thegoat11111]

I believe that plan was a three day special military operation to take Kiev. Meanwhile 562 days later. 😂😂😂

[@robertpatrick3350]

Flawed prepositions….

[@laloelsalamanca]

@@dougcoombes8497 "Zelensky had a plan to rule a sovereign Ukraine until he didn't"

[@jethroarnaiz2216]

​@@thegoat11111 You know they pulled back from Kiev as a show of goodwill for the peace deal that was snubbed by Boris right?

[@andrewharris3900]

Happy to see the Challengers being put to good use but we need to wind up our industrial base and start being able to produce weapons like we once did. We can’t rely on the Americans to defend Europe forever.

[@user-pt5vy1uu6j]

Trump has made your point very well. Had he been re elected, America would now possibly be out of NATO, then it would have been interesting to see what Russia would have tried.

[@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK]

Indeed, some small positive noises across the UK and Europe are being made, but it's very slow and not enough.

[@skoden1313]

​@@user-pt5vy1uu6jAs an American I would like to apologize for Trump. He does not represent the majority of us, who would gladly volunteer to defend Europe if needed.

[@Brookspirit]

@@skoden1313 Pulling out of NATO would have made Europe pull itself together and stop relying on the USA. Europe has got lazy. Too much UK and European equipment is now American, we used to be able to make it ourselves. We have just ordered a load of American small arms, we should be making our own.

[@johnathanrudisill7084]

​@@Brookspiritno....murican military weapons and technology are the best in the world keep buying from MURICA

[@Manu10900]

Last news: a second challenger 2 has been destroyed today

[@marrs1013]

They managed to destroy TWO complete tanks?! The magic of the Russian Army, the unstoppable force of nature! Truly is! By the way: could you show me when and where was it claimed invincible?

[@tdolan500]

@@marrs1013don’t get too excited by the bot, I haven’t even seen the Russians reporting they have taken out another.

[@marrs1013]

@@tdolan500 I know they are mostly bots. But some context for the next reader, so the propaganda and disinformation value might drop a 'bit.

[@Manu10900]

@@tdolan500 It was reported by Balitsky, head of the zaporozhe region. If you search on google "second challenger 2 destroyed" you can read articles from western media reporting it too. I am not a bot, i'm just more updated than you. And by the way, claim of invincibility? "Never lost one in combat" written on the Uk defence minister webpage is something different from such claim? They should change it by the way

[@MLVL312]

😂😂😂😂B.S Ruskie.

[@deven6518]

Lol. That tug is going to be a whole tow soon 😅

[@alsharifbinedi9560]

Rest In Peace 🙏 Challenger 2 Tank ☹️😞😟😢

[@firstnamelastname1557]

😂😂

[@KondorDCS]

More like, rest in peace Challenger 2's myth of invincibility.

[@Nanvobo]

Kondor shut the hell up, there’s never been any myths about the challengers invincibility.

[@smokejaguar67]

Yep, and he wasn't the only one

[@sainsburyshopper]

Eeh, these things are inevitable in war. If the crew survived, that means it was built right.

[@Biden_is_demented]

Hatches are CLOSED! Watch the videos! There is even a drone aerial footage, the hatches are CLOSED. That means they never got a chance to abandon. It also means that this "military" guy is full of it. The Head of the British Army doesn´t know to look at the hatches before claiming they survived?? Kinda suspicious, no? Or could it be he knows the truth, but he´s just spreading the "narrative" coming from Kiev, no matter how daft? Even more suspicious is that they think the british audience is so numb to believe it, even though everyone has seen the video by now! So they know they can lie all they want, that your average brit is so clueless, that they won´t even notice the hatches are closed!

[@ringotran64]

I haven’t found any video of the crew if they survive or not. Do you know how they are right now?

[@Jack-uy7ie]

@@ringotran64 I would also like to know this.

[@antoinne3694]

​@@Jack-uy7ieme too

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

UK in 2022: Our mighty home grown tanks will steamroll Russian defenses UK in 2023: The tank crew survived, yay!

[@user-ze9to3ef1f]

Get over your emotions and send 100 more😂😂😂😂

[@mdumisenihlophe4001]

It is impossible to send 100 out of 40😂😂😂

[@insertyournamehere4328]

100? What a humble number isn’t it? Send the all remaining operational tanks because the result will be same!!

[@gerfand]

>Most advanced Maybe Challenger 3 >Most Protected I won't say that T--90M could take a Kornet to the face, but it definelly has a better chance than a Challenger.

[@Jin-Ro]

No it doesn't. A Challenger 1 is better armoured than anything in the Russian arsenal.

[@gerfand]

@@Jin-Ro lol lmao, okay then, why you think that is the case?

[@deafshark9932]

​@@Jin-Rosource: trust me bro

[@jjw2520]

😂😂 a t-90 got taken out by 2 Bradley's with 25mm chain guns... a challenger 2 once sat in basra, tanking 70 rpgs, ieds and HEAT charges... all crew survived. Which sounds better? And I doubt the Ukrainians have 3rd gen Chobham armour on there mk2s. Not even yanks have it 😅

[@gerfand]

@@jjw2520 the fact all crew survived means not a single penetration happened. My point is that even if you don't want to say the armor is better, the fact is the weaponry being used against it was clearly not enough (btw the Bradley who "destroyed" the tank was lost trying to do it again the next day), the only weaponry that could have damaged the tank was the rpgs, which probably is what happened. One made the turret spin, other made the crew bail, after the Commander stopped the turret since he still had control and could override it Unless if it was destroyed by a drone drop, it will probably be recovered as lines move up if wasnt already

[@laloelsalamanca]

Brace yourselves, there's more coming, more "emotional tugs" I mean...

[@normanboyes4983]

Well the Russian Nazis will not feel any emotion, most are brain dead and in the death cult mindset.

[@JK-dv3qe]

very eloquent reply. does not seem desperate at all. @@normanboyes4983

[@norb0254]

Sad to see a challenger destroyed ,but it was going to happen eventually..

[@MrCollins2000]

I thought Russia are fighting with shovels 😂

[@juangalindo6487]

@@MrCollins2000 I guess the Russian shovels are better than the depleted Uranium rounds the UK is sending with their tanks.

[@facts9538]

@@MrCollins2000 Sadly shovels help lay mines :(

[@real_andrii]

​@@MrCollins2000russia started fighting with firing 1800000 artillery shells per month, currently about 600000 artillery shells per month. At that rate they will soon reach 1 artillery shell per each citizen of Ukraine(that is including 1 day old children). And artillery is what hit that Challenger, so there is that. Interestingly enough, russians used "Kornet" missile afterwards to make an impression that "Kornet" missile was the reason of destruction of the Challenger. Even dumbest weapon used in huge quantities is a force of mass destruction. West made a mistake by providing efficient weapon to Ukraine so late, but it is better late than never. If we were given F-16s before summer 2023, counteroffensive would be way more successful and with far less casualties on Ukrainian side. Each day without new modern weapon support for Ukraine is a day when russians can improve defensive positions of the occupied territories.

[@deidresable]

@@real_andrii You do know that Ukraine have large sovyet era fighter plane

[@jfb17042]

I doubt the crew got out since the turret blew off.

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

The crew would have surely survived if they fought Afghani farmers or Iraqi militia.

[@UKSimon4170]

I live near Bovington and often see Chally 2's moving around the area. I felt a great emotion seeing that Chally but draw some goodness knowing the crew survived. Additionally it will provide good research data when the tank is examined by the UK. Out of adversity comes inspiration and innovation.

[@michaelfaraday8391]

Because the tanks are seeing their first test in a real war. You haven’t seen them destroyed because they’re always at the garages. When it comes to the frontlines it’s no better than the old Soviet tanks

[@vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729]

@@michaelfaraday8391stop talking wet

[@michaelfaraday8391]

@@vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729 you never liked that! Did you?

[@vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729]

@@michaelfaraday8391 not when facts a wrong

[@michaelfaraday8391]

@@vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729 tell me that “fact”! Which war has the West fought which has the capabilities of Russia ? Anyone can look good against any enemy which doesn’t have a fraction of their capabilities. The nato doctrines is air superiority. They roll over the streets of Baghdad and Kabul with their jets covering them to the extent that a whole tank commander never fired his rifle throughout the war in Afghanistan! He’s a KZbinr and his name is Willy, you can search for him. Do you call that a war? What about when you meet an adversary who’s more than likely to deny you the air superiority like Russia. How are your “invincible” tanks going to fare? If these afghans and Sadam had a fraction of the support that the Ukrainians are having now, wouldn’t Sadam be alive today?

[@lani6647]

“We gave them great kit, they don’t really know how to use it, they’re very brave”. Some sort of Mantra.

[@user-dc9oq2pr6v]

"great kit' that burns like junk after getting hit by a $10000 lancet

[@thealpaca8hay]

@@user-dc9oq2pr6vI’d rather be in “great kit” that will probably keep me any my fellow crew alive than “barely adequate kit” that will probably kill us all

[@user-dc9oq2pr6v]

@@thealpaca8hay that "great kit" that got destroyed also had dead crew members pulled out, watch the full video

[@thealpaca8hay]

@@user-dc9oq2pr6v If you actually listened to what the Chief said, all the crew members survived and the “great kit” actually served its purpose

[@user-dc9oq2pr6v]

@@thealpaca8hay the "chief" wasnt in ukraine, also please watch the video of the tank, its destroyed beyond repair

[@MajesticDemonLord]

Chally 2 lost in combat and the All Black's lost their first RWC Pool match. It's been a period of time for records to be broken. But good to hear that the crew survived.

[@petunized]

Not for long. Will be sent the same road as cannon fodder

[@Jack-uy7ie]

You realise we are British right. When Murray wins Wimbledon hes british. When he loses he is scottish. When a Challenger 2 walks all over Russia it is a Challenger 2, when a Challenger 2 gets destroyed its a FV4034-UKRAINE EDITION

[@imtiazakand7139]

Chellenger 2 will never get destroyed like titanic😂😂😂

[@JK-dv3qe]

spelling is fine. you guys are going all 'Ruzzians' so I will commend him for his spelling. and that Titanic sunk so fast didn't it? 'unsinkable'?@@Dnelleb.

[@travkin8842]

​@@Dnelleb.Почему ты думаешь что не будет ваших трупов....... Я уверен что они будут.

[@Isaac-muntz]

How does he know the crew survived??? He just just made it up in his mind 😂😂😂

[@Cupit29]

For the record, the crew did in fact survive.

[@trigger1471]

But not by a enemy tank,minefeld then picked off by arty

[@meme4one]

How do you know what happened?

[@jacksononesmo7694]

Dream kid ... Dream

[@tdolan500]

⁠@@meme4oneliterally a video, got tracked by an anti tank mine then was then the immobile crewless tank was set upon by anti tank misses and artillery.

[@thegoat11111]

@@meme4one red effect has a good video about it. In fact he has two but the latest vid has greater detail.

[@robertpatrick3350]

@@thegoat11111nah redeffect is an ill informed comibo who is very disingenuous

[@ussrrussia6005]

Especially god told him that crew manage to survive

[@derrick4544]

I didn't think that the UK had enough tanks to be lending them out😮

[@fastfirefox1475]

Tanks are most disposable as the UK is a island.

[@simontenkate9601]

Splendid tank, but it tanked. No matter that you are strong, there is always someone in the works who is stronger.

[@kodor1146]

"Splendid tank, but it tanked." LOL, the Britaboos are coping again.

[@JK-dv3qe]

Challenger got challenged -> Blew up

[@goodthings3625]

Just look at the bright side: the tank successfully destroyed a Russian mine.

[@JK-dv3qe]

mine still intact. tank got taken out by helicopter ATGM and precision artillery@@goodthings3625

[@lablackzed]

The UK shouldn't be involved with this war full stop .😠

[@sneakydragon2352]

you wont be saying that if russia decides it wants to take over europe, or just poland... and then germany and then france and then UK. I don't think Putin's interested in europe, but he's willing to go against NATO's equipment to stop someone joining them and rebuilding his beloved "USSR". you give them a hand they take an arm

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

@@sneakydragon2352 Source that Russia wants to rebuild the USSR? In fact, RU and UA signed a peace agreement in May 2022 in which Ukraine vowed to restore the Russian language and remain neutral, yet UA cancelled that agreement only a few days later. You are obviously under the influence of NATO propaganda my friend.

[@sneakydragon2352]

​@@Intel-i7-9700kThe peace treaty was never signed because ukraine's representatives weren't happy with the deal, look it up yourself. If you want to know a man's intentions, look at their actions, he has consolidated power, no democracy and he has slowly but surely created a close-knit group of "vassals" around him, based on the fact that "because you were part of USSR, now you should be allied with us". Ukraine joining NATO was a big no-no because having NATO close to their borders is a bad thing, so having a buffer would be great, if only Ukraine could be that buffer again... So what we see, is Russia now controls round-about the same as it did before USSR broke up and it behaves similarly, with the government controlling everything, however more efficiently. You see the similiarities?

[@BurningSovereign]

Strange thing to knock one out to but hey, we've all been there.

[@richardmaxwell3472]

Well said Sir.

[@Set-ri6rs]

Was anyone stupid enough to really think that these machines were invincible? So one was destroyed, so what, more will be before the end, point is the crew survived so the machine did exactly what it was expected to do, its unfortunate their enemy counterparts are usually not so lucky and should probably keep that in mind before raising a glass to its destruction.

[@limedickandrew6016]

It's supposed to win a war. Crew survival is secondary. Tiger I and II didn't win the war for Germany did it. And crew survivability was quite high in those tanks.

[@tams805]

@@limedickandrew6016 Trained crew are far more valuable than any piece of machinery.

[@limedickandrew6016]

@@tams805 As long as they got another tank to step into then yes. But if there isn't one, then they will just fight as infantry and likely die. I may survive a gun fight, but if I got no gun the next time and my opponent does, who'd you think is most likely to win?

[@Set-ri6rs]

@@tams805 The machine is expensive granted but I agree that trained crew far more valuable when you consider they will be in a new one before the weeks end probably and maybe even a little more wiser for the ware. I personally do not consider this news worthy when their enemy have lost 1000s of such machines and their crews with them in most cases.

[@Craig-fl8jj]

If crew protection was it's job then why not just take out a very thick steel box. I think it's job is to destroy the enemy not pop it's turret off. BTW there are two dead challengers now.

[@hamster8449]

the tank could catch fire. If the crew managed to pull the fire extinguisher bracket before jumping out, the flame quickly extinguished, and the insides of the car did not burn out completely. If this was not done, then the tank burned out from the inside to the ground; from the terrible heat, the armor was "released", lost hardening, and it was already impossible to restore the car. After the repair was completed, the tank's fighting compartment was repainted, but, despite this, sometimes the smell of death permeated the entire car. Then the new crews were afraid to take the tank allocated to them, superstitiously fearing to share the fate of the comrades who died in it.

[@GegeDxD]

Wait, I just read few of your comments about this video? You seem cope hard.

[@ALB437]

Could Challenger 2 (and other tanks) be equipped with one or several fire extinguisher systems (foam) - maybe near the turret or other sensible parts, enabling the crew to leave the tank in the best way possible after an impact?

[@shsh-he5qg]

Emotional tug 😂 Just to update him, 3 are now confirmed blown up 😂8 to go😂

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

Sadly, there are no known remedies for emotional tugs.

[@Gerpolitica-Paraguay]

I love how it burns! The invencible found his true challange and fail! 😂

[@silverianjannvs5315]

An advanced & equal opponent.

[@barbarybar]

Tempered in the fires of war. Will learn by the loss and hopefully make them stronger.

[@dynamo1796]

Anyone can use the equipment poorly and get it lost to the enemy. If I took a challenger and shelled it with an artillery barrage im pretty sure the results would be the same if it were a leopard or abrams or anything else. In war, you lose stuff. The idea is that for every one loss you suffer, the enemy loses 1.5, or 2 or 3 things instead.

[@rickmolton774]

Rather the tank died in battle than be scrapped by this awful Government

[@cordellmohawk8408]

It was the over hype they did making it as indestructible now it's in a real conflict got destroyed

[@davidrenton]

the Challenger has been in 2 gulf wars, they where 'real' conflicts, unlike the leopard

[@cordellmohawk8408]

@@davidrenton Against countrys who couldn't defend themselves

[@Bajtjr]

Nobody said it was indestructible, there is nothing indestructible in war else wars wouldn't be fought for long, anyone that doesn't know that has no clue about wars so I doubt anyone implied it was indestructible. A Challenger tank is however one of the more superior tanks, it ain't as good as Leopard 2 but extremely close from what I heard but then again Leopard 2 is better than any Russian tank despite its age so as far as tanks go Challenger is a dream to have defending you compared to the Russian tanks. No matter how good the tank, its going to go down, either because of mines, drones, arty, precision arty, javelins and such, etc. but if any Russians find themselves in combat against a Challenger, they better say a prayer before the sendoff

[@hoogmonster]

​​@@cordellmohawk8408No actual military expert has actually said that any Western tank was indestructible. Don't confuse ignorant popular opinion with actual expert claims. However, I'm sure the AFU could confirm the crew survival rate of Soviet era tracks compared to Western ones. It'll be night and day.

[@cordellmohawk8408]

@@Bajtjr The media said it hyped it up like every weapon system sent

[@matthewbaynham6286]

That term at the end "combined arms" that includes air power whilst the Ukrainians still don't have any modern fighter jets, and they are expecting to only get about 60 f16 fighters. So basically combined arms without air power. I'm going to guess you do need air power in order to do combined arms, thats why the UK and all NATO member each have an air force, and use their air force when they are at war. We really do need to get more modern fighter jets to Ukraine.

[@dougcoombes8497]

It's 73 F-16s now, Norway is sending 12. It takes time to introduce something as complex as a modern fighter to a military like is being attempted by Ukraine. And the UK led the way by being the first western nation to start training Ukrainian pilots in western aircraft. Just like it was the UK that opened the door to thousands of Ukrainian recruits being trained there. It was also the first nation that committed to sending MBTs and sent the first long range cruise missiles that have proved invaluable. All while the nation with the largest nuclear weapons arsenal on the planet keeps rumbling about using it on anyone who aids Ukraine. Going as far as producing on its state media videos of the UK being wiped out by massive new Russian nuclear weapons systems. Talk about stiff upper lip, the UK has proven once again the quality of its people, its government and its military.

[@70newlife]

They did had a large Airforce. They even had a good business overhauling MIG planes for central Asian countries and North African countries. Plus it was gifted nearly 100 aircraft.

[@matthewbaynham6286]

@@70newlife those 100 were not modern they are old and suitable for a museum. The F16's that are still on the way will be the first modern fighters, and there are not enough of them.

[@bulldogwoof6954]

How will this have an impact when these planes will face the world's most advanced air defense network, the Russian Air Force, which can potentially handle them on its own? Additionally, the training required to prepare Ukrainian pilots for combat readiness is a significant obstacle. The F16 is not a F35 or F22.

[@dougcoombes8497]

@@bulldogwoof6954 The F-16 is a much better fighter than the MiGs and Sus Ukraine has been flying for a year and a half in combat against Russia. They will also be able to use all AGM-88 modes which means they will be killing many more Russian radars and SAMs.

[@tommyfree4736]

Found a video on Facebook posted 20 hours ago. It looks in good condition

[@vladislavfeldman6562]

The job of a tank is to make break throughs through heavily fortified areas, secondary are crew and third cost/time to replace/fix vehicle. If it can not accomplish its main task, maybe another strategy should be used.

[@JK-dv3qe]

in western (coping) world: THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB OF A TANK IS TO KEEP ITS CREW ALIVE. this suddenly became the main job of a tank (and spoiler alert: the crew was burnt to a crisp)

[@sneakydragon2352]

@@JK-dv3qe yeah because it's easy to replace equipment, not easy to replace a train tank crew member, where's the source that they passed away? If you got drafted to the army in a bicycle and come under fire from artillery, wouldn't you much prefer to be inside a tank that is meant to protect you? I guess you don't care about human lives because your orc brain has taught you that you mean nothing

[@hamster8449]

We organized the first collection point of emergency vehicles (SPAM) on the southern slope of the same hill, near the road passing through Erel in the direction of the Saint-Jean-de-Deux highway. By 9.00, tow trucks T2 repairmen of the 33rd regiment began to bring the first tanks, hit at the beginning of the battle. The first victim was an M4 medium tank, while the body of one of the tankers remained inside. According to the surviving crew members, they were hit on the highway. The German gunners, apparently, did not shoot until the tank approached them literally fifty meters away, after which they put two 75‑mm armor-piercing shells from the PAK 41 anti-tank gun into the tank. It was almost impossible to notice such a squat cannon until you hit it… The first shell killed the M4 drive shaft, immobilizing the tank. The second struck tangentially into the frontal armor of the tower above the shooter's head, killing him on the spot. Avoiding looking at the body in the tower, I climbed up on it to assess the damage caused to the tank. The second shell hit the tower at the top of a large curvature, where the thickness of the armor ranged from 63 to 88 millimeters, and the angle of incidence of the projectile on the armor was no more than 15 °. In officer courses, we were taught that the critical angle is 38°, if it is lower, the projectile usually ricochets. This was especially true in relation to the shells of the American M2 tank guns, with their low initial velocity. After examining the frontal part of the tank, I found that the first shell hit the main gear - a heavy armored box containing a transmission and a differential connected to the tracks. The projectile hit directly into the top of the main transmission box at the point where the armor thickness was maximum, amounting to approximately 115 millimeters. He penetrated the armor, passed through a 30‑centimeter layer of engine oil (the viscosity value of which was 50), cut through a 140-millimeter thick steel driveshaft, then passed through another 20 or 25 centimeters of engine oil and pierced the 25‑millimeter armor plate protecting the tank driver's compartment from behind. By this time, he had lost all punching power and buried himself in the floor under the seat - between the driver's legs. Since the shell was armor-piercing, it didn't even explode. As for the second projectile, although it ricocheted, the force of its impact was enough to break a gap in the armor seven centimeters wide and about twenty-five long. The shooter was killed by an explosive wave that passed right through his viewing slot. It became clear that it would not be possible to repair the tank in the field - it was necessary to sharpen new supports. The car had to be dragged to the repair company.

[@riso9059]

What are you on about

[@srijanme]

Omg that's so terrible. Wait did it really get destroyed? Thought it was the most advanced tank in the world.

[@jeremystone2658]

😂

[@sneakydragon2352]

i think the Abrahams is more advanced, and your arguement is invalid as long as there are nukes, nothing's indestructible, including putin

[@johnallen7807]

No wonder he did considering the British Army has "about 40" Challenger 2's fully operational!

[@mdumisenihlophe4001]

😂😂😂

[@tedmaxeffs]

180 + 80 new chally 3 order

[@johnallen7807]

Where do you get those figures? Btw all Challenger 3 is is a 2 upgrade with a new gun and turret, there are/were 130 scheduled for the upgrade which will not be completed for 7 years!@@tedmaxeffs

[@PrivateWalker]

Will it be in the workshop now being worked on & someday put back into the field?

[@simonwilkey7280]

Hopefully he will have a great deal of pride when they get it back into action.

[@yungcaco1443]

😂😂😂😂

[@JK-dv3qe]

imagine UK general being emotional about one of their 'globalist adventure' tanks being destroyed by peer opponents? Challenger 2 was made to bully insurgents in whatever 3rd world country US ordered them to go to@@yungcaco1443

[@hazelb7218]

Such a shame ......but i hope we are not leaving ourselves short of equipment.! This war needs to end! x

[@ste2442]

Could have ended months ago only for Boris Johnson

[@facts9538]

@@ste2442 It's only the USA making sure this is dragging on. Lets see how long it takes them to get tanks to the East when they are in a fight bet it takes 3 days rather than 1 year.

[@ste2442]

@@facts9538 I’m an ex British soldier , I never ever thought I’d be against my country. But I am now , it’s run by war mongering puppets .

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

@@ste2442 Yup. Urge Ukraine to stop peace talks, approach Russia with a stubborn arrogant attitude, and now that is backfiring. Wonder what plans are being made to let the UK "honourable" leave this hopeless stalemate.

[@garydonoghue4565]

Emotional tug 😂😂😂😂 lol

[@zmax683]

Metal doesn't win war,only mental win.

[@TheMilpitasguy]

What was it fighting? Minefield?

[@JK-dv3qe]

it was fighting western hubris

[@Robert-xy4xi]

Love the spin! Of course Kiev regime will say the crew got out!

[@pjhgerlach]

Which they undoubtedly did as the armour is way better than those Russian tin can tanks.

[@mrfr87]

Well Russia doesn’t deploy anything that could piece pierce the armour just disable it. One in Iraq was hit by 70 rpgs and other was hit by 14 rpgs and anti tank rounds an both were fine. No challenger 2 tank crews have ever been killed. I bet that tank will be towed away and refurbish to fight again.

[@RT-mm8rq]

Russian troll bot.

[@angusmcculloch6653]

@@mrfr87 At the expense of another tank. You're still down one tank.

[@michaelmullins3396]

He was trying to get the words out, and I thought he was trying to say "we train about 40% of all the Ukrainian soldiers that are killed "

[@michaelmcginn7260]

Felt a similar 'tug '.

[@Dorje17]

Ivan cracked it like a hammer a walnut!!

[@Andre-tc9sb]

Propaganda is a powerful tool. Westerners got too used to dominating people from third world countries who have no real means of fighting back against their tanks, and for that reason, naively thought that it would be the same against an actual military who is actually properly trained and actually has the means to destroy their tanks.

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

You would think that false superiority mindset would have disappeared with the Japanese WW2 operations. It's ironic how enthusiastic media and governments of NATO were in 2022 about Russia's collapse and defeat, not having any clue as to what was actually going to happen.

[@TheTata2tatakazika]

You should ask him how does he feel training nazis? World will not forget that!

[@jonathan8084-y1s]

It's now 2 challengers that have been challenged 😂😂😂

[@carlstanwick7287]

Why and for what

[@davidwhitehouse2162]

I cannot believe that any country that sends weapons to Ukraine, will expect them not to be harmed in some way. What is more important is was there any deficiency to learn from and therefore create modifications if possible. In war, nothing can be taken as indestructible, there will be events that you wish didn't happen, but hopefully learn from, which I'm sure Ukrainian forces understand.

[@freemanreed5228]

Western tanks will be destroyed, Russia does have capabilities and are, at least a "supposed" superpower. Not Ukraine. Without air support, Ukraine is doing all it can.

[@arielalarde6788]

No Modern tank cannot withstand a artillery shell it's to big,they use drone to disable the tank and hummer with artillery fire to completely destroy the tank,it's modern battle now challenger tank is not fit for in Ukrainian offensive to many complex maintenance issues they only target is Russia that dig in foxhole Russia Tank are far from the frontline they only use it as a mobile artillery at safe distance against ATGM,Russia mbt si simple less maintain unlike the modern challenger...

[@kempaku982]

Welcome to the arrogance of the Western world.

[@dm32904]

uk government would be better spending the money on falling apart schools and hospital wait lists

[@freemanreed5228]

@@dm32904 I don't think the UK is giving money to Ukraine. They are providing weapons and ammunition and training. The money has already been spent to buy the weapons long ago. The UK is helping a nation in need, just as the UK was helped in their hour of need. America gave massively to Britain via Lend-lease. A Democrat and prosperous Ukraine is good for Europe and the whole world.

[@rorysmith2415]

The UK has a powerful army. The UK has brave soldiers. I hope we have peace for the UK.

[@JK-dv3qe]

first one: no. second one: maybe. third one: definetely

[@tez1167]

He would felt a much bigger tug if he had been in the tank i am sure!!

[@Micha_mg]

YeAh, doesn’t sound much like a victory speech.

[@johnord684]

Yea but how many did the challenger kill,all armour is vulnerable.

[@AAAAAA-tj1nq]

@johnord684 didn't fire a single shot before it got destroyed by mines lmao

[@gordonmac3616]

​@@AAAAAA-tj1nqwas that what RT said? And you believe it?

[@hoogmonster]

​@@AAAAAA-tj1nqSame is true for the Russian tanks too, just times a lot more.

[@meme4one]

You will never know what it did before it was hit / mined because both the Ukrainians and Russians as well as our own media lie constantly.

[@robertpatrick3350]

@@AAAAAA-tj1nqwere you there? Of did you get that from the woman with a face made of Tupperware that presents Russia’s news programme’s.

[@70newlife]

😂😂 i thought they were indestructible😂😂

[@marrs1013]

Who told you that?

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

@@marrs1013 You've been living under a rock?

[@marrs1013]

@@Intel-i7-9700k Who told you that the tank was indestructible?

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

@@marrs1013 Mate, stop living under that rock. It is clearly not good for you. Let's see.. Spectator, January 2023: “Ukraine is lucky to have Britain’s Challenger 2 tanks” The Daily Mail, April 2023: “Ukraine can 'break' Russia's army if it gets the right weapons, Britain says, as the UK sends in armoured vehicles (...)” LBC co uk, January 2023: “Boris: Send Ukraine tanks now to speed up its inevitable victory, boot out the Russians and end this economic pain” Independent co uk, March 2023: “Putin’s troops ‘left to fight with shovels’ as Russia suffers ammunition shortage” Politico eu, January 2023: “Britain discusses how to send ‘game-changing’ tanks to Ukraine" Forbes, April 2023: “Ukrainian Challenger 2 And Russian T-55 Tanks Could Meet in Ukraine. The Last Time They Clashed, It Was A Massacre.” BBC, March 2022: “Russian reservists could be using "shovels" for "hand-to-hand" combat in Ukraine due to a shortage of ammunition, the UK's Ministry of Defence says.” The Telegraph, May 2023: “British-made tanks are about to sweep Putin’s conscripts aside” Forbes, May 2023: “Ukraine’s Challenger 2 Tanks Can Plow Right Through Russian Fortifications”

[@vds4252]

Experience ones and news together that can communicate now thank you

[@user-li8oq3om9o]

Challenger-2: total failure... Beautiful advertising but disastrous reality

[@bulldogwoof6954]

Highly advanced equipment has demonstrated its effectiveness against less formidable adversaries. Engaging in conflict with Russia is ill-advised when Western armies exhibit overconfidence. Western nations supporting Ukraine are facing humbling challenges. The destruction of Western weapons, including Leopard 2 tanks and Challenger 2 tanks, will significantly enhance the morale of Russian soldiers. Contrary to expectations, NATO and the West have not weakened Russia; their actions have had the opposite effect.

[@Proxinem]

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

[@Jimmythefish577]

@@Proxinemmaybe he was, but that doesn’t change the fact he’s correct..

[@bulldogwoof6954]

@@Proxinem @Proxinem, what truly intrigues me is the necessity of Western tanks being on the battlefield, especially in light of the prevailing media narrative favoring Ukraine. Take a moment to ponder that carefully.

[@travkin8842]

Да. Перевооружение идёт полным ходом. Открываются новые военные заводы и цеха, почти во все виды вооружений внесены изменения. Люди проходят воённую подготовку. Мы растём с каждым днём.

[@rokuth]

It should be noted that the Challenger 2 tanks supplied to Ukraine do not have British TES or any applique armour on them. From what I could see of the video of the destroyed Challenger tank, it didn't seem to have any additional applique armour on it.

[@srijanme]

Then why supply a tank without good armor? It's a worthless destruction of tax payer money 😂

[@AzovSS]

Challenger tanks are designed to fight against goat herders and Talibans armed with old medieval weapons. They are not designed to fight against a real modern army like Russia.

[@pan2aja]

The one with applique armor is indestructible ?

[@srijanme]

@@pan2aja Wait till the ones with particularly applique armor start burning in Ukraine

[@Bob10009]

No amount of additional armour would have stopped it hitting the anti tank mine that disabled it.

[@hamster8449]

It's not about the ability to knock out a tank. There are no invulnerable tanks. There is such an indicator. The ability to restore a tank after being hit by a sub calibre or bazooka. And the inability to recover after being hit. So for good tanks, the first indicator is from 70% to 80%. Naturally, it also depends on the maintainability and speed of replacing the chassis and engine. . The fact that a tank is hit simply means the beginning of battles, and that's it.

[@srijanme]

Lmao it's gonna be more expensive rebuilding that tank completely knocked out and burnt from the inside. Plus you need to be able to retrieve it which you won't.

[@hamster8449]

@@srijanme (lmao) my ass out = prolapse So I don't use this expression.

[@artgreen6915]

​@@hamster8449 maybe you don't, but (you horrible spammer bot), you have posted elsewhere in these same comments an irrelevant and lengthy post from an account of an investigation after engagement of American armour with the Germans in WW2. It's excessively long, it's obviously either AI fake mashup or a direct quote and contains zero comment in your own 'voice' or attempt to relate it back to this video here. So I reported it as spam.

[@artgreen6915]

Your 3rd sentence 'there is such an indicator' does not make sense in the context you have placed it. At best your comment is quite badly translated. At worst it is artificially generated. Make more effort to be genuine and clear.

[@TMFShooting]

Great Video 💯 Thank You 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[@SkyMaXX5]

There are no invulnerable tanks. For some reason, many people only realized this now. We got used to heroic movies and games and that’s it, for some reason we believed it. Personally, since the beginning of the war, I also overestimated many things, both Russian and Western. But the first shot down Ka-52 brought me back to earth😂.

[@real_andrii]

First Ka-52 of currently 40+ destroyed 🔥🎉

[@JK-dv3qe]

is was mostly UK/western media that gave us these loonie stories. and normies tend to believe what the lying MSM spouts out

[@andrespodra8459]

@@real_andrii 400 destroyed

[@petunized]

Arjun is invulnerable. It never was defeated

[@SkyMaXX5]

@@petunized All tanks are vulnerable in their own way. For example, with this war it was revealed that the upper turret armor of most tanks is insufficient. Even small explosives from drones destroy the hatch and fragments of ammunition falling into the storage tank of tank shells explode the entire tank. And kamikaze drones, even with explosives weighing 3-5 kg, can easily pierce the roof of a tank turret. Only the Merkava 4 tank has good turret roof protection due to its unique design.

[@panagiotis9688]

Go Russia Go!

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

Russia was backed into a corner ever since 2014 and they have been holding themselves very well. You got to respect that.

[@enriquelaroche5370]

Get used to the emotional tug another one was blown up today (reported)

[@frankrijk6729]

What a sad guy this is.

[@Robert-xy4xi]

So will be a Challenger 2 soon on display in Moscow, along with Leopard 2, Bradleys and AMX-10!

[@marrs1013]

All 6 of them they managed to destroy?! Even Putin understands shame... 😅😅😅

[@robertpatrick3350]

😂 the museums of the world will be full of crispy bits of Russia’s premier military hardware. The US has enjoyed laughing at the complete T90M’s that Ukraine has given them……now Ukraine know exactly how to destroy them with a cheap drone and a grenade.

[@Aloh-od3ef]

The crew survived to fight another day!! You can’t ask for much better than that.😊

[@viamilitaris011]

And one more thing...if it was an ATGM, only the buttons remained from the crew

[@petunized]

fight on what? there are only 13 left and ukraine haven't even rached the first line of defences

[@remerson4]

​@@petunizedNot reached the first line? Bro the SECOND line has been breached already... Admittedly only a small breach but a breach still

[@petunized]

@@remerson4 only in western media. In reality ukraine had lost half of western provided armor already, and is now mobilising people with AIDS and mental disorders. member, males are not allowed to travel abroad in ukraine Thats how desperate it is.

[@cleetorres1351]

The crew the crew. These tanks are worth millions they are only people

[@crazylegz324]

Pvt. Conscriptavich: they were British trained CO: how could you tell? Pvt. Conscriptavich: when they finally got to me after bayoneting the rest of my trench they told me to “fack off” because “it’s tea time”

[@greg434]

The Zale Lancet drone is slowly but surely destroying significant numbers of western supplied heavy weoponry... You don't have to obliterate heavy armour to make it useless - given the high maintenance of such vehicles - medium hits are more than enough to make it scrappage ...

[@jpracing893]

Challanger need blow out panels for the crew. I’m sure we also didn’t send them exactly how we do, fully armoured up, perhaps even without Dorchester.

[@viamilitaris011]

Another one bites the dust Another one bites the dust And another one gone, and another one gone Another one bites the dust 🇷🇺✌💪

[@dwayneforbeschalmers]

2 challengers have now been destroyed

[@dannyzero692]

We can attach our love for the machines, but at the end of the day machines are expendable, men are not.

[@travkin8842]

Украинцы именно расходный материал для вас. Около 1000.000.000. Расходников мертвы, до последнего украинца...

[@monnezzapromizoulin5169]

"Let me explain why I believe he’s lying, because it gets to the heart of the topic. The footage of the actual Challenger kill was released, and was purportedly done by a Kornet ATGM, which created a large explosion. The important thing that people have pointed out, is if you look at the photos of the killed tank, it appears that the turret has actually been completely detached from the hull and is sitting on the edge of the side in a way it’s not supposed to be. Note how the front of the turret sits roughly flush with the side of the tank when it’s turned, and the rear of the turret which houses the ammo hangs over the other side, on a properly fitted tank. But in the destruction footage, we see that the front of the turret is actually hanging over the side and the rear is flush. Note how the front of the turret sits roughly flush with the side of the tank when it’s turned, and the rear of the turret which houses the ammo hangs over the other side, on a properly fitted tank. But in the destruction footage, we see that the front of the turret is actually hanging over the side and the rear is flush. " Simplicius

[@northernskys]

The destroyed Challenger hit a mine, lost a track, and the crew got out. After that, some Ruzzian sources say, she was hit by a Ruzzian 9M133 "Kornet" ATGM. Obviously to deny recovery by Ukraine. Kornets are one of the most capable ATGM that the Ruzzians have, having been used in the Iraqi War, where they disabled a couple of Abrams, and in the 2006 Lebanon War, were they are credited with destroying 4 Israeli Merkava's. Losing a MBT like the Challenger is a shame, but, the important thing is that the crew survived. That is more critical than anything else in battle.

[@northernskys]

@@AnthonyKochubey This is reported on several other channels covering the war in Ukraine

[@Biden_is_demented]

"The destroyed Challenger hit a mine, lost a track, and the crew got out. " I can´t believe people are just so gullible that believe stuff that goes against their own senses! Dude, look at the turret! The hatches are CLOSED!!! So unless the crew were some Marvel superheroes that can go through walls, they never left the tank, and are still in there!

[@JK-dv3qe]

You misspelled 'Russian'. Learn to write, please. The Queen's English. Tut, tut.

[@viamilitaris011]

Yeah right , and they lived happily ever after ... please tell us more fairy tales about mighty Chellenger . Like : it burned beautifully, with stile ...not like those ugly Russian tanks 🤣🤣🤣

[@ringotran64]

Your hatred of Russia blind you.

[@realjakefox]

We gave them NLAW, not Javelin at the beginning of the invasion didn't we?!

[@normanboyes4983]

Both

[@JK-dv3qe]

what does it even matter?

[@realjakefox]

@JK-dv3qe it matters because you'd expect a British army chief to know precisely which anti-tank missiles we've provided. Especially the NLAW as its final assembly was in UK following joint work between UK and Sweden. It matters. Javeline is a US product by Lockheed Martin which works completely differently and is a lot more expensive.

[@jayspik6498]

We are now at two Challenger 2 Tanks Destroyed 💥 One will soon be on display in front of the British 🇬🇧 Embassy in Moscow 🇷🇺 👋🏼

[@dimbasz]

We won't repeat after unhinged western and ukronаzi leaders. There's no point in displaying trophy NATO tech in front of respective embassies, they aren't calling the shots, they are simple clerks. It would be displayed where it belongs to - at Patriot military theme park, along with many other pieces of captured foreign tech.

[@Mrblazed420]

Hit a mine lost its track and was finished off by a kornet 2 missle or artillery the crew survived thats the main thing equipment can be replaced a life lost is gone forever 🇬🇧🇺🇦

[@Biden_is_demented]

Hatches are CLOSED!!!

[@Mrblazed420]

@@Biden_is_demented how can you tell it was completely on fire on the close up video and was not moving when it was finished off in drone footage plus the troops could have just close them 🤔

[@JK-dv3qe]

are you saying that the 'escaping' crew took the time to close the hatches behind them as they bailed out? is that what you are saying?@@Mrblazed420

[@user-tn1qn7tw3x]

Any tank can be abandoned if it is blown up by a mine. What if the Russian cornet got there at a time when there was already a team there?

[@tdolan500]

Anti tank weapons do exactly what they are designed to do. No tank in invincible. Doctrine and tactics are part of your defence.

[@johnlenin830]

Most likely, the tank was destroyed by ATGM, whether the crew survived or not is not known.

[@wouterkellerman4458]

Lots more emotional tugging coming

[@charlesrichardson8635]

I think it is hilarious how Russian Trolls have been dancing around and shouting about how they knocked out a tank! WOW! I think it is definitely better than they thought they could do! 🤣🤣🤣 The worse part is they don't even see it! Hey the Ukrainians in both Challengers weren't crispy critters like a Russian T-series crew!! Those trained, experienced, motivated crews will be fighting you another day, Russian Trolls! One of the Challengers is going to be repaired, better than a T90 with it's turret in the next oblast! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@angusmcculloch6653]

Fighting in what? All the machines are getting destroyed.

[@kodor1146]

LOL, another Britaboo coping again.

[@charlesrichardson8635]

@@angusmcculloch6653 So we know the education system in Russia collapsed so here is the math 14 - 2 = 12, 12 NOT = 0. So there are 12 Challengers that are sniping at 3 to 4 km killing T-series tanks or hard points out of range. What gets me is how you Russian trolls start downing around because you are soooo SURPRISED you actually destroyed a tank. I know that is weird for you to realize that the rest of the world knows tanks will be lost, because unlike Russians our leaders don't call everything invincible... you know like the T90 or T14 or Kinzhal or Zircon or whatever!

[@pan2aja]

Challenger crew got roasted : well no tank is invisible I think I heard that line before

[@charlesrichardson8635]

@@pan2aja No thank is invincible but Challenger did save it's crew in both cases. Sorry you don't have the real information but you probably believe Putin when he said that Ukraine never existed and yet it does!

[@whitesun264]

There have been some comments questioning whether tanks are still important / effective. I don't agree with the rationale or argument, namely that tanks have had there day. Inevitably the prime military asset on the battlefield is going to be targeted. If you take tanks out of the equation (remove them from the battlefield) then it will simply be the next primary vehicle on the battlefield that will become the focus of attention (and thus you end up with the same argument being used in respect of that type of military vehicle, and so on and so on until you are left with bicycles. If anything there may need to be an analyse of the tactics as to how tanks are used. My gut reaction would be to deploy a couple or three of them in mixed groupings with other vehicles (such as alongside Ukrainian tanks and IFV in a main grouping. The main body (of mixed vehicles) would be supported in its left and right flanks by two or three tanks which would act as QRF in the event that the main contingent is engaged. An alternative approach, would be to address specific assets being targeted by just increasing the weight of numbers of tanks. Big groupings of tanks (playing the numbers game - yes anti tank teams are likely to inflict damage but it would be short lived!) I think either approaches would still require adaption of tactics, such as much closer working with drones and much closer working with the infantry or dedicated anti-tank teams. American tactics involves deploying tanks only with dedicated tank infantry (tank scouts) . Alternatively I quite like the idea of using the German Weasels as an advance formation. The weasels are light small tanks that are very nimble and quiet and apparently are very effective in the anti-tank role (presumably they could double up providing recconiaisence.

[@vaughanlockett658]

This is a great weapon in this setting as you have open country side, however it needs support namely air and scouts .

[@imjinriver641]

Its like a football match, our side is winning..

[@shauneason5897]

RIP to the first challenger to fall to enemy fire A fantastic machine that served well and protected its crew to the end Many more will fall but we will drive this aggression back freedom is a must no mater how they go on

[@iamsorryforbeingrudebefore1626]

More burning challenger is coming. Prepare for emotional damage.

[@hoadien158]

Don’t be wild anymore

[@navalfa7291]

Crew abandoned before it was hit. Seems it got broke down.

[@mazdarx-8rotary.97]

@@iamsorryforbeingrudebefore16261 challenger 2 has already destroyed 50 t72 💀

[@iamsorryforbeingrudebefore1626]

@@mazdarx-8rotary.97 lmao😆😆🤣🤣🤣 wtf. You dont even believe this lie. Challenger never seen any enemy tank before getting destroyed on the way.

[@ehisgeorge414]

Challenger 2 has never seen real battle untill now. Fortunately, tbe first one that got close to the frontlines burns beautifully for 24hrs with thick black smokes. Using Challenger 2 to terrorize sheperds in Afghanistan or chase kids in Baghdad streets is not war. Send more Challenger 2 and let's see how long they last.

[@normanboyes4983]

it is not a matter of how long they last - it is what tactical results they achieve. I am sure Ukraine will deploy them to achieve the best military effect - as opposed to the Russian Nazis who prefer to target Ukrainian civilians.

[@tedmaxeffs]

and have the others ? leopard s , abrahams , ?

[@normanboyes4983]

And another f’n thing - when have any Russian tanks (since WW2) been used in combat against a peer army? Recent Russian history is to roll the tanks into neighbouring countries to take them over - Czechoslovakian, Hungary, Georgia to name three.

[@JK-dv3qe]

i could send you some videos of ukranian children doing the 'sieg Heil' salute to ukie military column going past? the guys on the vehicles are polite, and of course give the 'sieg Heil' back@@normanboyes4983

[@dadidadida123]

We chinese want to see UK vs Russia directly with your best weapons. We will drink coke and rest on sofa watching the show. You'd better nuke each other since you all so love to have war and kill each other.