British DPM Effectiveness

In this video we test the effectiveness of British Disruptive Pattern Material (DPM) in a heavily vegetated woodland environment. DPM had a very long service life with the British military, and was only recently replaced in the last few years by the new Multi-Terrain Pattern that is similar to MultiCam. Like American woodland copies of the pattern were adopted by militaries all over the world and has truly set a standard for camouflage for the past few decades. This video includes scenes that show the patterns use when both concealed with and without the use of vegetation in the environment, as well as what the pattern looks like moving and stationary.

[@rc59191]

Still think the British desert DPM camo is one of the coolest patterns ever.

[@markanthony4655]

As I am in the UK, the DPM pattern is my standard camo, when out and about in the woods. I did notice you a few times when hidden as your hat has straight edges, an olive green British Army scrim scarf over the hat and down the sides of your head may have worked to break up the straight edge outline of the hat. Nice video. It takes me back to the 1980's when I was wearing DPM and carrying an SLR for a living.

[@Brent0331]

Thanks for watching and commenting brother.

[@easyfiveOsink]

I think DPM works best when it's worn in and slightly fade. The set your using is too dark. Wash it some more!

[@mercurio822]

i bought a surplus set, its almost at the worn out point now, its faded and washed out so it works in sunlight better, still performs well in shadowy areas aswell, but you are spoted less moving around when its less dark.

[@isbee56]

@LRK20 its not lighter, the tan is darker and the brown is lighter, however original early pattern British DPM had the lighter brown, CS95 or more modern DPM is darker to start with and works best when it fades a bit as is designed as old DPM used to fade to being too light, so now it fades to the perfect level. However the dutch darker tan is still wrong to original DPM and in my opinion works less well.

[@sharkwolf7788]

Faded DPM is also ally

[@AnUtterSimpleton]

I think it doesn't help that he has the sun at his back a lot. It really emphasizes his silhouette.

[@scimatarpictures]

THIS DPM LOOKS BRAND NEW! It's intended to fade into its optimum colours

[@paulroffey3893]

I Prefer Desert DPM To all the others

[@josephkony5473]

@Ishaan Daxton creep

[@manofwealthandtaste136]

DPM, chest rig and SLR.. oh, boy. The days.

[@cs-rj8ru]

Sounds heavy.

[@icantthinkofausername2605]

@@cs-rj8ru Heavy? There's no helmet or plate carrier, chest rigs are light as it gets

[@harosokman]

The difference between the sun hitting the pattern or it being dark is massive. I found when in sunlight it was really effective, but when theres no light hitting it it turns really dark. Big European pine forest and oak forests is where DPM and Flecktarn really work well.

[@sapperinitiative4773]

Hi Brent, thank you for a very effective video. I wore DPM as a Sapper through out the 1980's. I only missed you once but with fresh DPM it is it's darkness that gives you away. Once it is aged and bleached out a bit it works much better. Also you would not just rely on the Camo. You integrate the local vegetation into your kit to break up your colour and shape. I compared this vid to your MTP vid and it has helped to answer many questions. REspect

[@Brent0331]

+Ground Dwelling Mammals Thanks brother, glad you enjoyed the video.

[@SaenWyrWulf]

@@Brent0331 Brent, do you have any idea how DPM would work in the Southeast USA? We're pretty much subtropical out here on the coast, with a couple of the islands nearby being near-tropical in terms of foliage (and we've doubled for Vietnam in at least one movie). I want to combine DPM clothes with a multicam plate carrier/chest rig and backpack but I'm concerned about it sticking out like a sore thumb compared to US woodland or even MC Tropic.

[@Dave-hu5hr]

@@SaenWyrWulf There is tropical issue DPM but good luck finding it in good condition from surplus.. I personally reckon Tiger Stripe is the bollocks tropics wise..

[@isbee56]

@@SaenWyrWulf tropical DPM, not the orange looking one, the later tropical DPM uniforms aren't too hard to find in good condition on UK surplus sites. However CS95 would likely be good for that once it's washed out.

[@bobrowley4346]

@@SaenWyrWulf I'm in middle GA, the swamps, and fresh DPM is too dark for most of our woodlands. But, I have one DPM top that's faded and it works much better. BDU has the same issue around here, generally too dark when new but works better when faded.

[@jamess6961]

The bright woodland it is spottable if you know what your looking for. The darker places not a chance of spotting. I’d say it’s perfect for early morning, dusk, or countries with a less sunny climate (Uk lol)

[@ballagh]

As a kid who grew up in the boarder counties of Northern Ireland this brought back memories. Two come to mind. One was the bush at the end of our farm lane that looked exactly like a soldier squatting by the roadside. Spent about a year doing a double take every time I looked in that direction. The other was driving a tractor as a teenager (around 1984 or 85) and almost swerving of the road when I glimpsed a pair of eyes looking out of the hedge. Just to clarify the squaddie wasn’t behind the hedge, he had just lent back into it but was basically invisible. 2LI as I remember, their band had done a performance at our school a couple of weeks before.

[@mh53j]

Great to see someone do a video on effectiveness of DPM. As many have noted, most effective in hardwood forests as found in Europe. I have been wearing a DPM SAS smock for over 20 years, though prefer US woodland BDU trousers. Not an exact match but close enough. Have seen pictures of British and Dutch Marines with same combination. Vietnam ERDL still my all time favourite, have a couple sets of originals in my collection.

[@ragnarrthorsen2792]

I wouldn't be moving in the open in that sunlight. 7 S's. DPM was really designed for the dark woods of Europe and night fighting. Love DPM. Still have loads just in case. Great video.

[@hanburgundy4317]

I had always heard DPM was a step below Woodland but now I see it applied, I disagree. Excellent pattern. Keep it up!

[@cadetcalparry4567]

Hans Ollo all British camos are better than the us

[@koolyman]

They are similar enough you could mix and match them. The only difference is when you look up close and by that time the camouflage wouldn't be effective as neither truly have any micro-patterning.

[@hanburgundy4317]

@@koolyman Ah, a man of taste lol This pattern is good for what it is, for sure, but as you said it lacks any micro, open space, or mimicry. The newest hunting patterns like Realtree and Hidd'n (make sure you spell it right or you'll never find it lmao) are so much more effective than these macro patterns.

[@koolyman]

@@hanburgundy4317 When I looked at the effectiveness videos of Reeltree camo gear I spotted them rather quickly in general. I think they lack in disrupting the shape and I think the material Reeltree used reflects sunlight far too much, but they are probably good enough for hunting animals and they do look rather nice. I think Flecktarn, Cadpat, Multicam but especially Desert All Over Brush (I still don't know why the US Army didn't select DAOB over UCP in the early 2000s) are a step in the right direction. They combine both macro and micro to give the wearer long as well as close range concealment capability.

[@hanburgundy4317]

@@koolyman It depends on what gear you buy, what pattern, and where you're hunting. Here in northern Indiana, anything from Redhead is quality material and Realtree's AP, XTRA, EDGE, or that new Hidd'n pattern (I think my buddy got it from Tractor Supply) work phenomenally. If it's a dry, crispy leaf kind of day, I'd go with Realtree - XTRA or EDGE - but if everything is wet, then the pattern is too tan; then, I go with Hidd'n, as it has a darker color tone that matches those wet leaves. I've had both deer and people come within feet of me without noticing me, so I swear by the stuff lol CADPAT is amazing - I wouldn't suggest any pattern over it for a greened-out environment, but I'd try XTRA Green around here; works great in maple woods. And, really, if you want to go full bushman, a 3D leaf suit is the best way to go; a company called Arcturus partnered with Realtree to make some phenomenal leaf suits, but their own patterns looks great, too. I'd say my favorite "military" patterns aren't even military but Kryptec; those patterns work great.

[@my7Cs]

British DPM is still fooling pigeons and ducks today...!b y the way I love the FN SLR sets the DPM of a treat.

[@tombrigden7075]

*Enfield L1A1 SLR*

[@Rickemann]

Its too fkn hot in the pigeon hunting season in Finland so I just use lightest set of DPM that I found. It is cool enough and the pattern is great!

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

The Denison/jump smock the British made in the 1940s still stands up as a very effective design cam and garment. Tan, brown and green in broad strokes. Used all over the world for decades after.

[@SavageShooter93]

I have to say ive seen a few of these vids this morning and the fact that you carry the correct gun for the patter (whenever possible) is pretty cool. I love that little detail. And you must have a pretty sweet collection.

[@Brent0331]

SavageShooter93 Thanks man, I appreciate that. I do try to match weapons/gear to what ever uniform I'm wearing. For obvious reasons though its not going to be 100% correct.

[@proudtobeautistic]

Another great entertaining video as usual, DPM had an even longer service life than US woodland and it outlasted it as well. DPM entered British military service around 1967 I believe and it was finally phased out in 2010. Where as US woodland didn't come along until 1981 and it was phased out between 2003-2006, they'ry both pretty effective depending on the type of area you're in.

[@CSM_Gray]

DPM is closer to our ERDL camo than woodland.

[@MrBikboi]

DPM is such a fantastic camo. Also the British smock is one of the finest pieces of kit ever, easily my favourite jacket, so versatile.

[@aarbeider]

Outstanding video! Thank you for putting in so much effort. I can't believe that you don't have an SA80 in your unbelievable collection. Keep up the great work... go DPM!

[@Brent0331]

Only in a perfect world my friend, to be honest I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone who owned one here in the states.

[@aarbeider]

***** I just watched your "enemy weapons" video. Extremely well done. Thank you for your service.

[@Brent0331]

Thanks.

[@stevep119]

Why would he want an SA80? They are terrible guns.

[@non-masturbatingtyrannosau3476]

You can only get deactivated L85 and the are extremely rare.the British MOD won't sell the l85 or the rights to produce in other countries

[@gayfreeamerica5267]

This stuff works great. I think it blends in better in the shadows than the old U.S woodland. It doesn't have to match the brighter greens it blends in perfectly with everything in between. You'd have to be pretty close to spot somebody wearing this and you may still not notice them unless they're moving. I like it great video.

[@marklee1194]

I love this pattern; one of my favourites.

[@CyanLink]

Man, this stuff is awesome. I'm having a really hard time finding you.

[@lewiswilliamsartist8394]

Excellent video As a british wildlife photographer i tend to use this camo in dense forest as in britain our forest and woodland vegetation is a bit more dark green and brown its muc more effective . You are well hidden in shadow and spotty light but you have to see the true effectiveness by going to a british woodland as this place is a little too green and the blak and brown throws it out . Great video keep it up :)

[@Brent0331]

Thanks my friend, there is no doubt that its a great pattern. I read somewhere that before CADPAT came out it use to win the NATO camouflage trails every time.

[@lewiswilliamsartist8394]

brilliant to read that our dpm did. but ive heard your desert camo is actually perfect for british woodland in winter at our birch trees can turn quite tan ? only time will tell =] thankyou so much for your videos

[@Brent0331]

Here's where I read it: www.kamouflage.net/camouflage/00048.php

[@lewiswilliamsartist8394]

awesome =] if i can grab your email id love to send you a pic of our woodland and hang my dpm smock infront of the scene to show you the british woodland effectiveness, like how you are in the shadows

[@Brent0331]

I really don't want to give out my email brother, can you upload them to your Google plus account and I can check them out there.

[@miguelencanarias]

Never mind the pixelated and multicam fancies of today, in my book DPM will always be the best camo pattern ever designed.

[@BarrySManifold]

Agreed. With correct coloration (like with the Dutch version of DPM) it can blends in any woods.

[@miguelencanarias]

@@BarrySManifold any desert too, when colored accordingly. The original 4-color was OK, but the simpler 2-color version they rushed into production before the first Gulf War was an absolute wonder of efficiency.

[@isbee56]

@@BarrySManifold the dutch tan is too dark and british DPM is that colour, but for the CS95 uniform (the most common DPM surplus) so it fades to the correct colour with washing and wear.

[@BarrySManifold]

@@isbee56 Not as weird as Indonesia DPM coloration. The shade of green is too weird and the pattern is too big

[@isbee56]

@@BarrySManifold it looks borderline neon, it would need to be wet to work imo

[@Kapov]

A must have ! I prefer the old "tropical" DPM with lighter colors sometimes. In my opinion it's more effective on a shiny day of summer than the latest DPM like you're using in this video. A cheap yet effective and comfortable uniform. My favorite combination is a DPM shirt/smock with Belgian "jigsaw" /"flecktarn" pants (plus they are dirt cheap now over here, like 10€ max for the whole belgian flecktarn uniform at your size+the smock vest). The green-ish DPM for the vegetation/trees as a shirt and the darker/more brown pattern of the jig or fleck to fit the ground. The MTP is a big joke imo, they just wanted to save some money and they chose a camo "that could fit anywhere", wish is impossible obviously ... Great video as usual.

[@ppspsd]

DPM and Woodland my favorite

[@MisterBridges]

Thanks for the great videos... I'm a DPM fan, especially in UK vegetation, but I have some MTP as well... just to be up to date :-)

[@trollkors78]

The sunny places in the wood give you much more visible appearence, the contrast of dark person vs. very shiny background. I also like the DPM, but I also use german Flecktarn and italian Vegetato in more brownish coloured (autumnal etc.) areas. Greetings.

[@KingDavid1]

Very effective especially when you're in the shadows. Good video👍

[@Brent0331]

Thanks

[@geshagiperboreyskiy1581]

Класс, моя любимая форма, Очень удобная и практичная для копа и охоты, да и просто для носки в городе, очень стильная!!!. Спасибо британцам!

[@kaynebartholomew2994]

I'd say pretty effective, especially in shaded areas and overgrown vegetation. Easily one of the best woodland-type material in recent use. That's why I like my two pieces of DPM.

[@solarflare5616]

At the intro, I saw a floating gun, and heard a voice. Very good sir, .

[@MAyuso89]

DPM is my favourite woodland pattern. Is awesome

[@paraguard60]

Great video Brent! If the sun wasn't shining, and you had a bit of natural foliage protruding out of your webbing and bush hat to "Break" your human shape it would of been perfect S.S.S.S (Shape,Shine,Shadow, Silluoette,) Btw, i like your L1A1! (Brought back memories)

[@Brent0331]

Thanks for watching brother, I appreciate it.

[@anthonyfreemont8175]

In the spring you should test WW II British Denison smock camouflage.

[@wulfsheadswordsmiths1693]

Good video. I am a massive fan of ccs-95, in fact I have around 20 complete sets left in my collection. This video is a 'see if you can find me' video, in truth you would find it hard to identify a person wearing 95 if you were on a general patrol where 360 degree attention is not so focused as a portion of monitor screen.

[@nathanielwhite8769]

I think the UK military should have kept the Soldier 2000 Woodland DPM Pattern instead of transitioning completely to MTP. This is because now I feel British soldiers etc, look the same as the US and other NATO allies. When our forces are on operations now there is hardly anything to distinguish them from the rest! MTP is and was probably best for the Afghanistan terrain, but now they are back in the European theatre of operations, I think our military should revert back into Solider 2000 DPM. Although as always, the permanent squeeze on defence spending this now unfortunately, wishful thinking! Excellent demonstration of how effective Solider 2000 DPM was, Cheers!👍

[@sarahr4425]

I use DMP regularly while playing airsoft. The woodlands where I play has thicker and darker foliage so it's much more practical in that I can literally just jump into a bush and have all the cover I need.

[@DriveByShouting]

Never had a use for DPM. As stated it’s better suited for piney, darker for the cloudy Weather pattern of England and European forests. Rhodesian Brushstroke is still the king. I love how several here think this isn’t thick wooded terrain. Part of it looks like the Crosstimbers. An ancient eco/geographic region with trees 200-400 years old. It’s unique to North Texas all the way running thick through Central and Northeast Oklahoma and thinning out in Southern Kansas. It’s an interesting Geographic area. Where Eastern Forests and wildlife mix with Western Forests and wildlife. Legendary American Writer, Washington Irving wrote about it in one of his books about exploring Indian Territory, particularly the area West of Tulsa, which is thick, thick forest with rolling, steep and Hilly terrain mixed with rock formations thrown in randomly to further complicate things. To quote Washington Irving: “I shall not easily forget the mortal toil, and the vexations of flesh and spirit, that we underwent occasionally, in our wanderings through the Cross-Timber. It was struggling through forests of cast iron.” The More You Know…..

[@whitecompany18]

I'm in UK and use dpm all the time its my favourite but as another bloke its best when its warn in rather than new or it can be to dark ..but dark can be great in bright sunshine because shadows are that much darker. Great vids mate

[@Brent0331]

+whitecompany18 Thanks brother.

[@Wabaanimkii]

I’ve used DPM during the lush seasons in northern Michigan. It’s amazing! By far the best summer camo I’ve ever used up here.

[@adamh2962]

Really enjoying these videos. I actually think the final 95 pattern was the least effective as it is pretty dark in comparison to older patterns (though it depends on where you are of course). My vote goes to tropical jungle DPM and even the really old-school 68 patter, though ironically, I think German Flecktarn works best in Britain. I don't know if DPM is in wide circulation in the States, but here in the UK it's the easiest and cheapest thing to get hold of, though some of the old patterns can be a little more expensive sometimes.

[@Brent0331]

+Adam Hall There has been a lot of Desert DPM, DPM, and event MTP British surplus making its way into the states recently. The best part about it is it has been very cheap considering the good quality of the garments were getting.

[@vadimwolk2565]

Nice video. I got a Smock in DPM. First i thougt that camoflage are to shiny with it s bright green. But it work pretty good like you can see here in the test.

[@Brent0331]

Good deal, there is a lot of quality British DPM surplus on the market right now. Your pretty much buying top quality gear at a fraction of the price.

[@MrEKG123]

Really dark and really light lumps tend to attract my attention in the woods, and man this stuff is dark, almost seems black when the sun is out like that. I have seen people taking the Desert DPM and actually using green or brown fabric dye on it (the whole thing gets dropped in a bucket of solution) to bring it halfway between desert and woodland, while retaining the pattern breaking.

[@kingharryannis]

SLR correct ,webbing not.The British Army wool sweater was a great piece of kit.

[@NewBuildmini]

1:27 , 2:25 Couldn't see until you moved, great camo.

[@Matt77125]

Just my opinion, but DPM works properly in darker, wetter countries like the UK. It seamlessly blends into a overcast muddy field.

[@metalngames509]

Yeah my DPM is much more faded than that. The one you got is so dark it makes you stand out.

[@matthill216]

It would be great to see a comparison. Maybe if you had someone with you wearing mtp in the same shots... great vid tho, it’s like playing where’s Waldo 😂

[@GerryAirways]

Nice video... only caught 4 of the initial positions. Horrible concealment when moving though. MTP is horrible when staying still but good and concealing movement. You got a "paddyflage" video on the channel?

[@MikeHunt-on6of]

Good post. What chest rig is that your wearing? Love those British 42 Commando Chest rigs. Always remind me of the Original Commandos storming the German sea ports and dams in WW2! Classic.

[@Brent0331]

Mike Hunt Its an older rig made by Tac-Force

[@yorkshirecoastadventures1657]

Its too sunny for DPM. It works better in British overcast woodland. I still rate KLMK silver leaf for your bright light environment. Loving your floppy slotter!

[@stum2730]

Awesome stuff Brent, must check out your other vids......woodland catwalk, lol.

[@davew5583]

I'm looking into patterns/fabrics and so far all I can find in the fabric that suits my needs is DPM. I think I'd prefer multi cam. Bug hey ho. Any chance you could reshoot this video? In all your clips your initially hiding behind something, deep in the shadows, with the sun to your back. I understand this is the ideal, but not always obtainable. It seems black, maybe even orange, would be undetectable in your initial hiding places. Hopefully so, Dave.

[@mercurio822]

One flaw with British DPM (use it my self for Airsoft) it doesnt blend well if there is alot of light, its better on a cloudy day or you must keep to the shadows.

[@andrewtarango4128]

good stuff.

[@Brent0331]

Andrew Tarango Thanks

[@ParkerDaiGames]

Great videos man! I am British and my dad is in the RE, so I am a huge fan of British camouflage. I have a mate who is ex-USMC and he kept telling me about how much he loves this camouflage. I am wondering if it is true among many of US forces? I am a fan of the Italian and a majority of the US camouflage

[@Brent0331]

ParkerDai I can't speak for all U.S. servicemen, but I'm a fan of the DPM patterns. I saw first hand how effective Desert DPM was in Iraq back in 2003 when we had British troops operating fairly close to where we were during the initial push into Iraq.

[@ashrich6959]

+Brent0331 Desert pattern is particularly effective.

[@gieanmossmann3942]

I like that slr rifle ., the dpm in the 80s was lighter in colour.

[@cocopud]

Great camo, I remember wearing this. Bloody comfy too. Back when it was designed - during the cold war - it was optimised for the central european theater - I.e, Germany. Back then we didn't have as much need for multi-theater cammo as we do now since we all knew where the main fighting would happen.

[@lancerd4934]

British Cold War conflicts: Malaya Korea Kenya Egypt Oman Cyprus Northern Ireland Borneo Aden Nigeria The Falklands Tell me again how you didn't need multi-theater camo because you "knew" the main fighting would be in central Europe?

[@simonh6371]

@@lancerd4934 All of those conflicts you list are pre-1967 , the year in which DPM was introduced, except for Oman, the Falklands, and NI. DPM was better in NI and the Falklands than MTP would have been. Officially the UK wasn't in Oman 1971-6, it was so secret that the Labour Party didn't find out about it until they won the election in 1974. Only 500 British troops max were involved in Oman and most were SAS. They didn't wear DPM but tended to mix & match faded old Denison smocks and lightweights/ old jungle trousers, worn with locally purchased shemaghs. For tropical environments troops wore plain green tropical kit until 1970 when tropical DPM, which was different tones to regular DPM, was introduced. Desert DPM was introduced in the late 80s and used in Op Granby (1st Gulf War). The bulk of the British Army was based in W. Germany until the end of the Cold War and had it kicked off there most of the rest of the regulars as well as T.A. would have been sent to reinforce them so. For this reason and the fact that there were different designs of camo, multi-theatre camo was not needed, and it is thought by many that the transition to this was just to cut costs. The Dutch Army which introduced their version of DPM - almost identical to the British - in 1990 has been planning to supercede it with a type of MTP since 2008, it was supposed to be rolled out in 2021, now their Ministry of Defence says it's expected to be rolled out in 2023.

[@oasis11991]

DPM has always carried an heavy silhouette in my opinion, even when faded...it's a wonder why the military never adopted the realtree patterns for rural camoflage applications and just kept the digital and desert for urban and desert operations. Great video though man, thanks

[@JG-ib7xk]

Because everywhere has different native trees, so you'd need lots of different uniforms to match whichever country you going to.

[@ppspsd]

Kept waiting for (when motorcycle's in background) "CONTACT RIGHT" !!!!!! EMPTIES 20 RD MAG !!

[@reddevilparatrooper]

Outstanding!!!Oh shit did i hear a fly fart at the start?Fuck that was loud!!Great video anyway Bro!!

[@Brent0331]

+reddevilparatrooper Thanks brother.

[@aviationiceman9549]

It’s never supposed to be invisible !!! DPM stands for disruptive pattern material, this means at a distance it breaks up the outline of the human body !!!!!!

[@Smasher-Devourer]

I'm convinced that you're just really good at hiding in the woods. Like hide and go seek champion to the point that people put out a missing person's report out on you.

[@et0474]

Always lovers dpm

[@Gloriosus]

It didn't work so well after about 50 washes - it looked pale in the dark. At least you've got 'that' rifle with a triangular wooden grip, which should make you feel invincible. Keeping the butt in the shoulder all the time would improve the 1970s/1980s look.

[@canadiangold7262]

Ok cool, they look alike, eh. Thanks for the brief history

[@fixdeluxe1]

NZ Army used the british style DPM right up until last year, and it was effective in close and open country environments, however any enemy with IR, NVG or FLIR would see you stick out a mile away. DPM uniforms were also very inconsistent in terms of brightness and pattern, and they were also extremely cold and uncomfortable.

[@weichen5046]

The NZ version of DPM was not exactly the same as British, although it looks very similar at a glance and is clearly modeled after it. NZ DPM had an extra mid/golden brown streak through it, and lacks some of the "speckled" edge areas of some issues of British DPM (soldier 2000?). NZ DPM is also a bit inconsistent in it's colour variety from batch to batch. The quality of material and construction was also poor compared to Soldier95/2000. I didn't realise they recently changed uniform, I have been out of the country for a while. I can't keep up, ANOTHER set of camo I will have to get!

[@fixdeluxe1]

Well, TF currently wear DPM (except for me) whereas all RF are now in the new MCU, which is actually unique. Looks much brighter and "grey"er than even the US ACU's, but is a much more functional uniform I believe. DPM's were excellent for whatever specific environment they were patterned for, but were uncomfortabe, cold and required a lot of maintenance. And you are correct, NZ DPM's are quite incosistent, just look at the wet weathers. Some people have ones that are brighter than a para-flare, and other ones look like they've been soaked and washed in mud no matter how much you clean and iron them.

[@zaynevanday142]

We Kiwis 🥝 also used DPM I still love it to this day the only cam I think is just as good is ATACS

[@kromoism]

Love DPM, but my field jacket runs small on me, does that happen you with the European uniforms? Also I picked up the best chest rig ever. The South African pattern 83 chest rig.

[@jelkel25]

kromoism I got a pair of woodland camouflage pattern pants (or trousers as the Brits would say) from the US but I got them in my usual British size and they were huge on me, I'm presuming you'd have to order bigger sizes for European uniforms.

[@Tremulousnut]

kromoism You have to find out what sizing you are. British uniform measurements use the "Height/Chest" measurement for shirts and jackets, and "Leg/Waist/Seat" for trousers/shorts.

[@treerat7631]

European stuff tends too be samll

[@canadiangold7262]

sweet, thanks. would you recommend this if I already have; A-TACS, CADPAT and Olive Drab.

[@wildcat22399]

+Canadian Gold Try MARPAT

[@Puzzoozoo]

Wouldn't plain Ranger green with plain olive green rigging or vice versa be just as effective in a green woodland setting?

[@lhpl]

I've watched a few "tests" of DPM (and other patterns), and it seems to me that all suffer from the same basic error. With direct bright sunlight, any background that is lit by the sunlight will reveal the silhouette of the person, unless the pattern is also in direct sunlight. You could probably be wearing pink, orange or black, maybe even white (also grey, khaki or olive drab), and the silhouette would be the same. Either make sure the background is more shady, or get more sunlight on the pattern. Testing in twilight and/or heavy overcast would probably also help. For bright lighting conditions, patterns with lower constrast and more lightness, like MTP or even the ancient Italian Tele Mimetico would probably be better. Has anyone ever made a comparison of Tele Mimetico and MTP/MultiCam?

[@turtlewolfpack6061]

My favorite version of woodland camo, next to Flecktarn.

[@desantos1234]

it's a shame the MOD replaced it with MTP in 2010, that good old pattern was first used in 1968, standard issue by 1972

[@alexpang5814]

Shame the MOD is so cheap, could've had 3 types of camo, and all would've been effective in their respective environments. At least it's not as bad as UCP.

[@jelkel25]

In the early/mid 80s the pattern was lighter and I think more effective, it went darker in the 90s till it started blobbing. Shame, a really effective pattern up until then.

[@Brent0331]

+jelkel25 I have a jacket in the lighter shade of green in my closet. I would suspect though that finding pants in my size at a decent price would be next to impossible.

[@jelkel25]

***** They exist, There's an army surplus place that also runs Airsoft and re -enactments not far from me, I'll see what he says.

[@fy2189]

@@Brent0331 I think this comes as closes as it gets. kula-tactical.com/kukla-camo/

[@johnashton7261]

That’s right! They changed the colours on it and they reduced the size of the shape. 1984 DPM was the most effective.

[@baldrickthedungspreader3107]

British DPM is effective, much more effective than the American woodland bdus, it still has the problem of being to dark though and sticks out in lighter areas but other than that good Camo a personal favourite

[@Nucl3arDude]

The lighter kiwi DPM could be arguably better in denser, more tropical terrain. However, still a good pattern. Would be interesting to see Auscam, given it's actual surprising degree of effectiveness, despite looking silly.

[@iatsd]

+NuclearDude Yup. The NZ '85 DPM had a lot more of the lighter shades for, perversely enough, the much denser & darker overall NZ & Pacific terrain. I was always annoyed at how effective the Australian pattern was. Didn't stop us calling them Clown Suits though. :)

[@HarbardWild]

Nice video. It seems like your DPM camo has been heavily used, or just brand new? I got a DPM uniform and it's way brighter, washed a couple of times and it works perfect here in Sweden :)

[@Brent0331]

Brand spanking new my friend. Everything is new but nothing matches exactly color for color lol. The boonie I picked up on ebay and was mailed from the UK and its green is a little bit brighter than the smock I have. The Smock I picked up from Sportsmansguide.com which was advertised as used British surplus but the thing was brand new when I got it. The trousers I had to buy reproduction from RAP4.com, it can be hard sometimes finding XL clothing imported to the U.S. from Europe. The reproductions trousers are a tab bit duller than the smock but that’s about it.

[@HarbardWild]

Alright. Have you tried M90 camo yet?

[@Brent0331]

No I haven’t but it looks interesting.

[@HarbardWild]

You can ask me if you have trouble finding it, i can send links to swedish stores selling real M90 for decent price and over seas

[@AirsoftAddicted]

British DPM is so dark... I like Netherland DPM much more.

[@iatsd]

+AirsoftAddicted Only until it goes through the wash the fist time.... It lightens a couple of shades pretty quickly - and I don't know where he got it from, but the pattern looks "off" somehow. There's something about it that doesn't quite look right to me.

[@desantos1234]

😒 mate, they're exactly the same

[@HarbardWild]

+Desantos123 UK Actually they are not. Dutch DPM has different shades of the same colors and also the material being used is different and thus giving the DPM a different brightness. Same pattern yes, but not same shade of colors.

[@HarbardWild]

+Desantos123 UK For simplicity, Dutch DPM has a yellow tint applied and they do that with purpose to fit Dutch foliage

[@benji4200]

+AirsoftAddicted British DPM isn't that dark. As a member of the British Armed Forces I still have a couple of pairs kicking around at my house. I don't know where the guy who made this video got his DPM, but it certainly looks darker than my pairs, and all the others pairs I see from my mates who kept theirs.

[@paulroffey3893]

Nice Smock

[@RandomUser_online]

Can you try the PHILARPAT if you can find one?

[@peterscotney1]

This was my pattern of camouflage in the 1980s, I always thought that the germans with they're flecktarn were superior in concealment in the dark forests of west germany

[@joseflittle4493]

A bit too dark for the day, but a beast at twilight hours and at night.

[@redcommander81]

Do have plans to test any Kryptec patterns?

[@Brent0331]

No, its too expensive.

[@humansvd3269]

I have the Iraqi DPM. Not sure if there's much of a difference. I've since gained weight and no longer wear it. It's a wall hanger in my office now. Still have my BDUs though, along with a collection of Russua flora and Chinese universal in my collection.

[@ObliviousBurrito]

Hey Brent, If you ever had the opportunity, would you ever consider testing the effectiveness of NWU Type III/AOR 2?

[@Brent0331]

If I got the opportunity yes, but the reality is those patterns are fairly new and will probably be pretty costly for me to acquire. Although I love camouflage I love firearms more, and would rather spend money on new guns and ammunition before I spend another 100 bucks on another set of camouflage.

[@ObliviousBurrito]

***** That's quite understandable, believe you me I too would much rather purchase a well crafted firearm over relatively recent camouflage. I was just asking since the NWU/AOR series in general has become somewhat popular among camouflage connoisseurs.

[@hauptmanwittmann7222]

There's also ASAT All Season All Terrain

[@DieByMyHand1]

Soldier 92 camo, as in this video, is darker than the old DPM, I think if you wash it a bit it'll fade down to a good shade to blend in better

[@geevesy89]

That smock is cs95, it’s identical to the ones I had when I got out in 2011. But you are right with the washing, the colours stay too dark for quite a while.

[@hamzamomin6202]

whats difference between woodland and DPM?

[@Kevin-fj5oe]

its still in service in some unit in Indonesia Army, and being replaced by digitized woodland camo

[@lukelaw8981]

Kevin also Kenyan (?) militay

[@non-masturbatingtyrannosau3476]

Kevin most of the British commonwealth wear it

[@harolddavies3039]

My friend wear mtp I wear dpm how many times I hid right next to them

[@jwsgaston]

Hey Brent, could you do a test of the Rhodesian brush stroke pattern?

[@Brent0331]

Man I wish! I've been looking for it for years. Tell me where I can find it without taking out a second mortgage on my house and I'll test it.

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

Very much like the Denison/jump smock the British made in the 1940s still stands up as a very effective design cam and garment. Tan, brown and green in broad strokes. Used all over the world for decades after.

[@jamiemcf1]

I have a full 95 pattern set. I love DPM but I find the 95 pattern to be a bit too dark. I'm from Scotland and it works quite nicely when you're in the heather in the hills though. I'd like to see the 85 or even the 68 pattern DPM tested in those woods to see the difference since they're slightly lighter in colour.

[@Brent0331]

jamiemcf1 I've got my eyes out but I really haven't seen any out here in the states for good prices.

[@jamiemcf1]

***** They are tricky to find. Your best bet would be to order them from Britain and get them shipped to the states, but It might be pricey.

[@Brent0331]

jamiemcf1 That's what I figured, unfortunately that is why I probably won't ever get to do a video on those different variants.

[@shaydeinsun]

Unfortunately it seems to suffer from the same problem our woodland camo did. It turns into a dark mass when out of direct sunlight. I'd imagine that it's because it has too dark of brown and green.

[@scimatarpictures]

Tropical DPM would probably work better in the environment that you're in

[@adamdefibaugh9674]

First one, I got you, try to use some light to help, as the shadow gave your silhouette.

[@falsecatalyst3936]

It’s still my country’s SI army camo

[@neilcastell6951]

trusty old DPM, the color shades have changed greatly over the years, original DPM was very light, but each kit issue it seemed to get darker,

[@fludblud]

Agreed, it didnt help that the pattern got even darker when soaked in rain which is basically every other day in the UK. I was issued MTP in my last year and whilst it may not be as good in dense green vegetation, it is far more flexible and works in a greater number of environments than DPM yet keeps the familiar pattern.

[@romulusempire2425]

The founders name is Mr. Cane Creanmer

[@barryolaith]

Good effort but many of the tests on KZbin seem to me to suffer from the same flaw. You can't demonstrate the effectiveness of disruptive patterns by hiding behind something. In this video you can see at the start that as soon as the subject reveals himself he is plain to see, in fact even at a modest distance the colours and pattern of the material are not distinguishable and there is no disruptive effect, he is effectively a silhouette. There is no doubt that in direct light appropriately coloured material for a particular environment helps a stationary figure stand out less and thus perhaps remain unnoticed for longer but it seems to me that 'camouflage' uniforms are not anything as effective on their own as many people like to believe. Nice colours and patterns though, and interesting if flawed thinking.

[@Naumets1]

Which Chest rig would you recommend for the AK patter rifle. Or AR

[@Brent0331]

If you’re looking for a rig that can accommodate both AR or AK mags, I really like the one I wear in most of my videos. Reason being I’m frequently shooting AR’s, AKs, and .308 rifles like the M1A, or FAL. This rig’s pouches are big enough to carry all of those different types of magazines. They do not make the rig I have anymore but you can still buy the one it was based off of which is the Blackhawk commando chest rig: www.ebay.com/itm/BLACKHAWK-COMMANDO-CHEST-HARNESS-DESERT-TAN-/221365355068?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338a67423c A lot of people like the open top pouches with the bungee style retaining bands, those are fine too. I just think that this type of set up suits me best for my needs, and I like having the extra security of having my magazines completely enclosed inside a pouch.

[@Naumets1]

Thanks for the info that rely helps me out a lot. Keep It up.

[@Naumets1]

I like that Blackhawk rig just wish they made It in OD Green.

[@Brent0331]

I'm pretty sure they do. I've seen it in Black, OD, desert tan, and Coyote.

[@Naumets1]

I will try to find it Thanks man.