British Expats Suffer The Consequences Of Michael Gove's Brexit Lies?

Are British expats now seeing the result of Brexit and the lies they were told by Brexiteers like Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Michael Gove? The latter told people with an air of confidence that their investments would be safe even if they voted to leave the EU. The Brexit Reality is somewhat different.
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[@steveoconnell3228]

I listened to one guy from the UK who was living in Spain but came back to the UK to vote for Brexit to cut down on immigration…. He was living as an immigrant in another country and was against immigration? He’s now crying because he can only spend a limited time in Spain and has nowhere to live when he returns to the UK, you really couldn’t make this stuff up.

[@livelife5947]

I love stories like this 😉👍

[@enricofromm4994]

@@livelife5947 True, very true! For speed there is a limit that cannot be exceeded. There is an upper limit on speed. In stupidity there is no limit it can tend to infinity. As in the case of the boy mentioned.

[@laurie113]

No sympathy here

[@gabriellejudd1]

He deserves the outcome of his choice to vote Brexit.

[@Tootrue5743]

Good, love these thicko planks

[@griffith500tvr]

How anyone who owns a house in an EU country could vote for Brexit is beyond me, stupid is not a fitting word.

[@patrickporter1864]

Exceptional

[@HelenaMikas]

Chances are they didn't speak the native language to the sufficient level & had no wish to learn Secondly there are always some who want the best of both worlds whilst raging at those who seek just to live. Germany , France, Spain etc only give citizenship if a good level of their language is possible . I had to have my birth certificate translated etc etc . Works of art in German Oh yes my ID card is wonderful too .

[@liamoconlocha3264]

She must own a house in a bubble, with a group of modern-day colonists. Most likely complaining about the locals

[@ab-ym3bf]

If I remember correctly from another channel, this genius bought his house in 2022....

[@oliver69cork46]

​@@HelenaMikasyou're 100% correct. Know some ex pats here in France, its embarrassing to see they're here with years yet can't speak one word of French!! One couple 30 years here and still lost shopping!!

[@benmorris118]

The fact we call them ex pats and not immigrants is just another example of how you can weaponise language to push a political goal

[@RazorMouth]

If you're talking from Britain about your country men and women living abroad then expatriate is the correct word. Immigrant is for inward migrants to the country you're residing in. Yes people misuse the words at times but there is a proper place for both.

[@roryleonard7631]

And the poor unfortunate woman lapping up his total BS! What a lying toe rag is Gove along with his charlatan friends peddling the same nonsense!

[@Khenfu_Cake]

​@@RazorMouthYou are technically correct. However immigrant and expat are mostly just used for people from outside first world countries and people from first world countries respectively. Immigrant definitely has way more negative connotations to it than expat does.

[@owenoneill5955]

@@RazorMouth So how do you explain that to the Irish immigrant community in the UK? 65 years old and never heard of an Irish expat yet.

[@tezinho81]

I will argue that a kid born abroad with a different nationality to the country they're born in, are neither immigrants nor emigrants and in that case alone, ex-patriate is the only correct description for them. I am an immigrant, my kid is an ex-pat. Discuss.

[@matthiasdarrington3271]

I'm French and this channel is pure comedy gold :)

[@roflomaozedong]

boutiquier :D @@kingquinn3897

[@richardgallagher4880]

You're German. You let gerry take over your country. Again🤭🤣🤣

[@Sweetlyfe]

I’m Australian and I agree, racists upset they can’t keep living in another country because they don’t like immigrants and immigration, what idiots. When I’m in another country I like to meet the locals, and eat local foods l not people from my own country, and the same food I eat at home. I could stay home for that.

[@chrissi.enbyYT]

German here. I travelled alot and people are so friendly if you just speak a few native words or respect the locals. Brexiteers thought they were special and now are sad. I really cant get it

[@mb106429]

I'm not supprised. I'm English, and fucking ashamed of it. My cuntrymen are ignorant and soooo selfish and scared of foreigners to the point that they'll fuck themselves over to stop anything they know nothing about. I speak French and Spanish well and a few other languages, I never go to touristy places where I am likely to hear that 'were yU gUnna go....nixt" cow mooing sound and if I do hear them I speak extra proper Spanish if I have to open my gob so they don't spot me. They can't even use English properly. In England you can't even go for a swim or ride a bike without shit, aggro or without cars tearing past. Litter and traffic noise everywhere. A fucked up social experiment, not a society. Our kids don't even know where eggs come from or how to decode marketing wank in adverts. God I wish I had a decent passport

[@ragerancher]

You know Gove was lying as soon as he said "I've got friends".

[@lesleyrobertson5465]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♀️

[@doniehurley7634]

He has friends was he not out nightclubbing and snorting with them up in Sotland

[@satisfied656]

Stupidity always had it´s prize!😏Well done👏

[@MerelyGifted]

It's the least believable part of this story.

[@steveknight878]

You can always tell that he is lying. You can see his lips move.

[@maliciousbloke]

Imagine being an immigrant (oh sorry, "ex-pat" lol) and voting to rugpull yourself like this. I knew brexiteers weren't particularly bright, but this just takes the cake.

[@NickAskew]

Look up what the word expatriate means. They are using the word correctly if they are still British or indeed any nationality other than their country of residence.

[@chriswood3252]

Boris Johnson; 'Did someone say cake..?' 🤗

[@rachelthecool2880]

​@@NickAskewmy guy this isn't about what the word means, it's about how it's used!

[@satisfied656]

Stupidity always had it´s prize!😏Well done👏

[@birdinthebush]

​@@NickAskewhowever, if I move to Blighty I'm an immigrant, so why do you become an expat when you come to live in Spain. Is it maybe that Brits believe they're above the migrant status?

[@captainchuppachup]

The "I don't want anyone to come live in the UK, BUT, I want to live in another country" Brexiteer is one of my favourites.

[@cathbelle5096]

😅

[@apveening]

Also one of my favourites, as long as you include "to shoot on sight".

[@entropybentwhistle]

Hypocritical AND dense? How do they survive?

[@francoisherisson2910]

😂😂😂😂

[@Bronek.Konarski]

​@@entropybentwhistleEasily herded.

[@Henglias]

If you own a house in the EU and nevertheless voted for leaving, than you deserve no better .

[@martinburn]

I got talking to a British immigrant outside our local supermarket who was back over from Spain for a couple of weeks, we got on talking about brexit and I listened in disbelief as he said he voted leave and went on to rip into the Spanish, unbelievable mind set, I hope he's getting is just desserts.

[@xtbum3339]

Sahara desserts? 😆

[@SirAntoniousBlock]

@@xtbum3339 Just deserts, because the supermarket had nothing else. 😂

[@blechtic]

It is a colonial mindset. The empire may be lost but they still feel high and mighty. That makes them suffer disappointments as reality doesn't care what they feel, which makes them bitter and ripe for the picking by unscrupulous liars.

[@martinburn]

@@blechtic yes I would agree with that.

[@SirAntoniousBlock]

@@blechtic _'which makes them bitter and ripe for the picking by unscrupulous liars."_ 😂

[@knightyknight5399]

My 1st reaction 🤣🤣🤣😆😆How can you vote for Brexit and want to live in foreign land ????.... Rule Britannia, 🇬🇧🇬🇧I don't think so.!!!!.Michael Gove is such a lier🤥🤥🤥

[@grumpy-dad3701]

That's 51% of the English mentality. They don't want to be part of a massive group of countries & trade and enjoy more benefits. But they do want to stay in these nice warm countries. I hope they all get chucked out. Thrown in crappy hotels and floating prisons.

[@franklettering]

*liar

[@richardgallagher4880]

Why wouldn't you? The desperation from you losers🤣🤣

[@viejoolmo]

One of the key ways to cheat others is by making themselves think they are fooling themselves the other party. They thought they were cheating the EU, and they signed their own death. I cant be less empathic to someone that got a home in a country and thought the set of rules applied to them would be applied the rules they wanted instead of the local rules. Arrogant fools.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

He should probably lie down permanently.

[@Cam-mo7gq]

Have friends living in France. Voted remain (as they're not stupid) but then got their shit together to get their paperwork in order to stay living there. They're pretty tuned in & report that the following pattern is common: Those living in the EU who voted remain have, by in large, got their residencies in order. However those that voted to leave have, by in large, sat there in their ludicrous exceptionalism expecting to have their arses wiped for them & are now bitching about it all going to hell.

[@zedeyejoe]

But Brexiters were told that Brexit would not effect them and they believed it. So of course they did nothing, they believed they were safe.

[@alanpage3973]

​@@zedeyejoebecause they knew what they were voting for 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Asterix3334]

People who lived already in an EU-country could very easy got their shit together. A bit paperwork and the situation was saved almost. But people who want to move in an EU-country and vice versa in future/since 2021?! are screwed if they can not meet the criteria. Get a Visa, long-term residence permit, and so on is not that easy. A Visa is quite easy, but 2x90 days/year is not enough to emigrate.

[@zedeyejoe]

@@Asterix3334 Yes thats what my mate living in Belgium did. He became a Belgian citizen - and believe me, Belgium is one mucked up country.

[@RazorMouth]

​​@@test-201whataboutery. How's the sh1t flowing in your rivers these days? And seas for that matter, nothing like swimming by a huge turd 😂 France has riots every other year, what's new 😂

[@logesch]

Many believe the British exude an air of ownership over the world, and it's not hard to see why. Despite the majority of English voters opting to leave the EU, they still anticipate retaining all the privileges of EU citizenship - a stance that can easily be perceived as entitlement.

[@RosetteAckesson]

Not perceived it is a stance of entitlement

[@LarsPallesen]

There is simply no excuse for thinking that you can leave the EU and still keep all the benefits of EU membership. That is delusional beyond excuse.

[@EmyN]

Isn't England poor? Expect for London. Makes you wonder where the confidence is coming from

[@nzsaltflatsracer8054]

@@EmyN It's an entitlement mindset that goes way back in their history.

[@readhistory2023]

@hughjaanus6680 "We fucked them out of our country, you will do the same" The Brits have never been in Greece in the way that Greek guy implied so I have no idea why he had a hate on for Brits. As to asking someone if you could keep something there temporarily? If that pisses you off eat a Snikers bar. Your blood sugar is low.

[@Jono_93]

Imagine owning property or a business in the EU as a Brit but yet you vote to leave the EU... Genius.🤦

[@davidroberts3280]

Yeah thick as mince

[@johnrussell3961]

Who would think expats are safe would cover those who weren’t expats yet?

[@geordiewishart1683]

Brexit 👍 🇬🇧

[@LikeARo55]

you have to admire how easy it was to convince people to punch themselves in the face.

[@johnsopel3804]

Arrogance/ignorance personified.

[@williampatrickfagan7590]

every country demands that immigrants prove that they can support themselves. That is even the case in the UK for immigrants

[@mrbearbear83]

It was how FoM worked

[@wanderingtravellerAB99]

@@mrbearbear83 Yep, every EU country had the right to kick out unsupported people from other EU countries after the necessary period, only around a dozen ever did. This exposes the lie at the heart of the immigration debate: the UK needs immigration, but a lot of people just don't want immigrants and the conservatives and brexiteers sought to appease this group in face of all reality.

[@RazorMouth]

​@@wanderingtravellerAB99exactly and it's why immigration hasn't fallen since Brexit. All developed countries have net immigration, many take in far more than the UK in real terms and per capita.

[@DavidEdwards-uf5lg]

Bollocks.

[@mrbearbear83]

@@DavidEdwards-uf5lg your well thought out argument aside, what's bollocks?

[@brianferguson7840]

I applied for full citizenship in France the week after the brexit vote. I have lived in France for nearly twenty years but I knew what would happen. The French authorities could not have been more helpful.

[@PaulGappyNorris]

Did you get the B1 level French and all the other stuff?

[@armadspengler2717]

@@PaulGappyNorris Seriously, after 20 years in another country, you should be able to converse at B1 level. Otherwise, you would either be a hermit or live in a ghetto among compatriots.

[@etarepsedllits48]

B1 wasnt needed for applicants during the 1 year (?) grace France gave to applicants from the UK.

[@tiusernamenabalw]

How is your French?

[@brianferguson7840]

​@@PaulGappyNorris I am fluent in French. I have a French BVQ qualification to teach languages in colleges here in France. It took me around 4 years to go from a twenty word vocabulary, but after moving here I and my wife deliberately avoided the company of other British immigrants and tried to integrate with the local community. We are on the committees of several local organisations.

[@glynedwards5489]

Stop calling these people expats. They're immigrants of Italy

[@nextinstitute7824]

Wow, indeed. Well that's a Western thing in the broader sense...

[@chronic2023]

By definition, an expatriate (expat) is any person living outside of their country. An immigrant is an expat but not all expats are immigrants.

[@glynedwards5489]

@@chronic2023 because racism says so

[@PaulForeman-indievisuals]

​​@@glynedwards5489the difference between the two is nothing to do with racism numpty. Look up the meaning of both. It does mean that this lot who have moved to live in Spain and Italy permanently are indeed immigrants and fucked up because of their arrogant stupidity, hypocrisy and potentially racism on their part which is different from the terminology being racist.

[@jameshunter2993]

Not just Italy.

[@AnthonyThomas_Ant]

I remember a couple being interviewed after brexit, ‘I thought losing freedom of movement only applied to foreigners’. 😐

[@roseharvey2664]

Well that is what the UK wanted.

[@reeleyes466]

This is mostly absolute BULL to be frank - propaganda by left wing idiotic media who exaggerate and do not check facts due to the inherent bias. The fearmongering is absurd. There is NO DIFFERENCE to people living overseas NONE, only some slight paperwork.

[@of1564]

You should have said: "Bitch, You turned yourselves into Foreigners with Brexit! Can't You read, twats?"

[@AuntyEsther]

@@roseharvey2664 It wasn't a majority of UK voters who wanted this, much less than half when you consider that not everyone on the electoral role voted. Most people expected us to remain in the EU so those in favour of remaining may have been more likely to stay at home on referendum day. Please don't besmirch all of us in the UK!

[@skarbuskreska]

​@@AuntyEstherExactly what many wrote in shocked comments afterward, "I didn't expect that many people to vote for leave, therefore I didn't go". Well and that's the problem, in the UK, in the USA and everywhere else frankly, that the persistence of dumb and evil people is always underestimated, time and time in history it has been proven that stuff like this happens because the normally sane people get lazy/comfortable at showing up. Therefore I say to my kids, it's not just a freedom to vote in a democracy, it's a duty for me. I'm ill and disabled now even and have hard times going outside at times. I would still drag my ass to any elections that were out there and as my health is declining even further will opt for the voting by mail option to not miss a single one.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

My wife and I put our French naturalisation dossier in (1.1kg of paper each) TEN DAYS BEFORE the referendum, which we didn't get a vote in. It was the ONLY way to secure our future (jobs, voting rights, retirement etc.), absolutely. We became French on February 1st 2018 and enjoy ALL the rights citizens of the European Union enjoy. The peace project continues without the UK 😮.

[@jackiethomas249]

French are great people. They don’t deserve the blame thrown their way by Brexit neighbors.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

@@jackiethomas249 The French people are COMPLETELY OBLIVIOUS of any 'blame thrown their way'. They don't read British newspapers. They now get any regionally specific foodstuffs, which they used to get from Great Britain, from Ireland; nobody goes "shopping to London" as everything else is available within Europe. The British working class padlocked 🔒 itself in and threw away the key 🗝️. Those toffs' tax-evading offshore bank accounts and 'trusts' are safe from prying eyes. WELL DONE ALL 👍🤣.

[@Silverfirefly1]

I haven't gone for citizenship but I did secure my residency in Spain during the vote. It's amazing what can happen if you actually do the paperwork rather than assuming things and crossing your fingers!

[@Robert.S459]

Have to say I'm jealous, but at the same time very happy that your life is far better than those who voted to remain, that are now stuck here on the outside.

[@jacquelineforster2654]

@@Silverfirefly1 we did the same, secured residency and pay our taxes here in Spain, no problems if one makes the effort to get it right. My Spainish is not good enough to go for citizenship, make be in future years it will improve. Having a Spanish grand daughter helps a lot. We will never return to the UK, bridges burnt and all that, no going back. I do feel very aggrieved to have lost my European Citizenship and all the rights that came with it. I will never forgive these Brexiteers and all those who couldn't be bothered to find the truth about what Brexit would entail and voted to leave, The biggest act of self harm any country has inflicted on itself in modern times.

[@soundmattersuk]

How can you possibly think voting to leave wouldn't affect your life in Europe?

[@dworkin7110]

Most people seem to be incapable of independent thought and put their faith (literally faith) into people they think they can trust because these people seem to share their views.

[@melluques8475]

They are English🤷‍♀️🥺

[@johnmcdonnell81]

Because the British are special, they're ex pats and not immigrants!!!

[@M_SC]

@@johnmcdonnell81repeating that over and over again is just dumb

[@stevenkies802]

Because they thought Brexit would keep the EU out of Britain, and not the other way around. Same for all those British who didn't stop to think about how Brexit would hurt their export businesses when most of their customers were in the EU.

[@joss.4462]

At the time of the referendum I was working in the German offshore wind energy industry. There were also many colleagues from the UK and many of them were pro-Brexit. None of those who have earned their entire income with projects in Germany and the rest of the EU wanted to believe me that non-EU citizens only get a work permit for a maximum of 90 days per year. After Brexit, many Pro-Brexit voters found Irish ancestry in their family trees and obtained Republic of Ireland passports. A really great national pride!

[@MrYorickJenkins]

non EU citizens in Germany dont get any work permit unles they are promised work by an emplyoer and then have that position approved by the viza authorities. . In the USA you need a Green card as a foreigner to work. When Britain was in the EU EU citizens could enjoy NHS services at no charge but Brits living in Germany had to pay whopping health insurance contributions.

[@joss.4462]

@@MrYorickJenkins Because we have a different health insurance system in Germany than in the UK. Insurance is compulsory! If you don't work, you pay for it privately. If you work, employer and employee each pay 50%, this applies to everyone who lives in Germany, regardless of which passport he or she has. This also applies if you become unemployed, then the health insurance contributions are deducted from the unemployment benefit. Our system is not tax-financed but contribution-financed. As in the rest of the EU, every EU citizen living permanently in another member state has access to the national health insurance system. So don't complain if you British don't base your system on contributions.

[@reeleyes466]

That is absolute nonsense. You can work as long as you like anywhere in Europe. The difference is the paperwork is slightly different, that is it

[@MrYorickJenkins]

@@reeleyes466 You can work as long as you like anywhere as a British citozen anywhere in Europe? Surely wrong and in plain contradiction with what nearly everyone has been saying here.

[@reeleyes466]

@@MrYorickJenkins Yes because they are all populist and biased twits who have never lived outside the UK probably. I have lived outside the UK on and off for 15 years, in most of Europe. You can work wherever you like in Europe, you just have to complete some simple paperwork. It is not the drama and exaggeration and disaster as portrayed by the UK media which is an EU media mostly. I could not care less either way and I also know the reality where people still carry on living as they have done for years, with no bother at all. It is just a difference in burcracy, that is it. That is the same for all countries in the EU because they do not want to make problems for no reason. It is the same for Norwegian and Swiss citizens.

[@homolgus1]

Why would anyone living in Europe vote Brexit it is beyond me.

[@dzerres]

Apparently 52% of the UK voters are entitled "Karens" who think the EU owes them something. I have no sympathy for exit voters who call themselves "ex pats" when in fact they are the exact immigrants that these exiters hate.

[@liamoconlocha3264]

Madness

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

Well there is a story from the rat catcher in Hameln, if you use the right tone - people will follow you to their own demise. Now we know.

[@xmindk]

Because of stupidity!

[@rudyardganuelas6254]

They heard what they wanted to hear from the people they want to listen to. throw in wishful thinking and there you are

[@StumpyVandal]

I’ll never forget sitting in a bar in Palma shortly after Brexit, talking with an English colleague who was weeks from finally retiring to the home he’d bought with his wife, somewhere on the Costa Brava. Out of nowhere he said “of course now I can only stay 90 days in every six months whilst my wife who is South American can stay far longer as Spain has a reciprocal agreement with her country. I voted for Brexit as it’s the right thing to do, but I hadn’t realized that this would happen” my jaw literally (I don’t use literally often) dropped open at the sheer crass stupidity of his statement. Christ, not everyone that voted for Brexit was a total moron, but they were heavily over represented. It makes my brain slightly freeze to think of the absolute absurd waste of it all, even now years after the vote.

[@MrYorickJenkins]

Your brain does seem to have frozen if you can't see that the man you talk about by your account had grasped the situation with insight and realism. Being pro EU all you can show is the never ending arrogance of so many Brits who voted to remain. Remainers dont understand "the right thing to do" do they? It implies idealism which people like you wouldnt understand if you fell over it, which you in fact seem to have done in the case of the colleague you talk about.

[@MrYorickJenkins]

@@brimkathstampex2306 If challenged, remainers do not argue, they cry "you're stupid" "you're stupid". Anyone who doesnt agree with them is "thick". The arrogance of most pro EU fanatics never ceases to amaze me.

[@markowen6899]

Apply for resadencia

[@MrYorickJenkins]

@danwilkes8964 Many people, my mother was one of them, emigrated to France becuase there were fewer people and especially because she could afford it. Real estate prices in the 1970s about a quarter of the equivalent in England. The same goes for many British people in Spain I epxect. In the village where she lived my mother was one of the few residents in the winter because many of the houses were owned by Parisens who had a maison secondaire and were only there over Summer and Easter.

[@richardgallagher4880]

@danwilkes8964 The irony of you not knowing what irony means

[@michaelhuggins8513]

I find it unbelievable the arrogance of some people. They live abroad and still voted for Brexit??? It’s quite disgusting when you think about it.

[@elcapitan667]

Yep.. its a perfect example of how to be a hypocrit with a over inflated sense of entitlement!

[@nickmondo222]

i would not say its disgusting that some people living abroad voted to leave the EU. I would just describe them as thick as f@@k....

[@loneprimate]

Especially the ones who are now whining about the troubles they're having now being treated as foreigners in someone else's country.

[@petert1692]

@@chrimbus71Yes, exactly. They’re still not as entitled as the pathetic citizens of the UK.

[@arctic_haze]

Arrogance is the twin sister of ignorance.

[@marcmcpherson6960]

Can we PLEASE stop with this "ex pat" nonsense?! They are British MIGRANTS or IMMIGRANTS!

[@MrYorickJenkins]

Since you present yourself as a language expert, perhaps you would give us the benefit of your knowledge and explain the difference between ex pats and migrants?

[@marcmcpherson6960]

@@MrYorickJenkins Migrant [noun] - a person who moves from one place to another, especially to find work or better living conditions. Emphasis on "better living conditions". For those who bought property or live permanently outside of the U.K., they are immigrants. I am no language expert, you are the one who asserts that. However, it does not take an expert linguist to understand that there are connotations harkening to xenophobia & racism and airs of British exceptionalism that would call British citizens who have moved to the E.U. "expats" versus "immigrants".

[@MrYorickJenkins]

@@marcmcpherson6960From what you say I agree that are not a language expert and for that reason it is in my opinion somewhat presumptious of you to call on people to use one word in rpeference to another when you yourself seem to have no sensee of the diffeence between the the two words. There are three words to consider: ex pat, migrant and immigrant. The differences in meaning are not always very strict but broadly speaking an ex pat is one who has individually settled in another country and enjoys a regular income and is not dependent on the state of the host country for largesse. Immigration and migration is geenrally associated with mass movement. Ex pats per definition always keep their citizenship, immigrants not necessarily. Traditonally (although I see no obvious rational reason for this except for the point about individualism) people who retire to another country are usually regarded as ex pats. It is perfectly true that migrant and immigrant also tends to denote a more lowly stauts than ex pat. Perhaps one could say that post Brexit the status of some British people in Spain was changed from that of ex pat to migrant or immigrant.

[@MrYorickJenkins]

i do not know what you mean by "legitimate legal term" (what would an "illigitimate legal term" be?) but although your definition certainly works, it fails to distinguish very clearly between ex pat and immigrant. There is a sort of practical tendency not supported by definitions in any dictionary, that ex pats are more likely to be in a professional social class or at least of independent means and immgrants dusky coloured folk who arrive on crowded boats! We can see from some of the comments here that people seek to use "ex pat" for people they dont like and "immigrant" for people theydo like :). The British folk livng in Spain and not speaking much Spanish can be called ex pat or immigrant. A last point: my prejudice tends to define ex pat more as someone who cant speak the local lingo and immigrant as someone who does or tries to within a few years. But that too is all prejudice. A good example of the fact that choice of lexis can also be a choice of values.@@chronicreader

[@JohnnyinMN]

I refuse to call them ‘ex-pats.’ It’s offensive to Americans and now it’s really laughable.

[@tjr4459]

How the hell can you vote to leave the EU and still expect to be able to live in the EU without consequences…

[@apveening]

Innate stupidity.

[@Foersom_]

Because Brit brags are arrogant: "They need us more than we need them"

[@thePronto]

My parents lived in Spain until 2019. They understood very clearly that their UK healthcare and pension benefits were paid in Spain under the auspices of the EU. Anyone who believed that would or could continue post-Brexit was delusional. Anyone who voted for Brexit and is now dismayed at their situation needs to sue Gove and/or the Tories.

[@HelenaMikas]

They are those Brits who believe they are exceptional etc etc .Hence they seldom if ever learn a second language .One reason they shout when abroad .Americans do the the same .Ah yes and live in ghettoes.

[@ab-ym3bf]

​@@theProntosue Gove and the tories? That would make a nice and short procedure. Judge: Sir, did you check the info you gobbled up with other sources or did you take them for granted without giving them a second thought. Defendant: I read it in the DM/on Facebook and my mate in the pub said the same. Judge: willful ignorance is not a legal reason to sue someone else. Next. [Edited for typo, give is Gove and apparently reason enough for someone to blow a fuse]

[@chavbristol2793]

British Expats? No! British immigrants to Europe.

[@RazorMouth]

😂 Pal, you're English aren't you? Perhaps learn your own language. Expatriate and immigrant are used in different ways and I couldnt be arsed explaining it again.

[@chavbristol2793]

@@RazorMouth English or British? No no! I am a proud EU citizen. And I feel sorry for those from the lonely islands who stood up to this Brexit madness. It fills me with a great deal of sympathy that these good citizens now have to endure the lousy soup of the Brexiteers.

[@eleSDSU]

​@@RazorMouth​ "Ex-pat" is a way of avoiding using the the word "Immigrant" when talking about white British immigrants because those people are the same ones that support and fall for the vilification of non-white/non-angloid immigrants, it's weaponized language for political goals. It's easy to dehumanize immigrants when "they" are immigrants but "we" are ex-pats, being immigrant is bad and a drag on the economy while being an ex-pat is good and "our right as Brits"; the first step in every fascist playbook is to create arbitrary ingroups/outgroups to dehumanize the outgroups so you can do anything to them from social murder to putting "them" in camps. It was very simple to explain after all.

[@chavbristol2793]

@@eleSDSU Outstanding contribution! It is exactly like that. There is no comparable word to "expat" in other European languages, it is exclusively British or Anglo-Saxon. And that shows how presumptuous the perspective of the "expats" is.

[@robertwilkes2105]

I voted remain in 2016. Left little england in 2017 for France. Fully integrated into the French system, including the language. Far better standard of living, culture. No problem getting Brexit paperwork sorted. I can freely travel in EU with my French ID (Titre de Sejour). Sorted.

[@nmm2177]

There was a Frexit movement before and thanks to Brexit I can tell you now that there is NONE 😂

[@paddybpaddyb9940]

Don't bet on it

[@efrain6783]

@@paddybpaddyb9940 I sure bet on it. And I live in Denmark and thanks to the British there suddenly are NO talks about Dexit in my country anylonger. Paddy? Why don't we talk about an Irish Brexit? I lived in Dublin for some years and they sure aren't leaving the EU either. You are sooooo alone.

[@2ag816]

Funny how Gove talked about the EU following International Law, yet his Government were prepared to break International Law over the NIP situation, and, they want the UK to leave the ECHR!

[@andyknowles772]

Come come, they only planned to break international law "in a limited and specific way".

[@jamil027]

I think the people of this country have had enough with laws.

[@loneprimate]

Just more British... actually, English... self-exceptionalism.

[@davidfaraday7963]

@@jamil027 Yeah, lets abolish all laws! Total anarchy, that's what you want isn't it!

[@godehardbrysch7905]

Even more, signing the Geneva Convention and the UN Charter of Human Rights and regretting it having done this. The best would be the UK as a Continent of its own. At least, they have a higher population than Australia.

[@concernedrabbit9075]

Imagine not talking to the officials in the country where you bought oroperty to clarify your position but rather to a British politician. Seems many thought being British was so special that other countries would bend the rules to keep them.

[@sadjaxx]

Remember "they held all the cards.". So so pathetic.

[@SabiAll]

The unbearable lightness and idleness of whiteness... Overly privileged... Denial of said privilege.

[@etuanno]

To be fair, it's likely the officials don't speak English and the British immigrant doesn't speak the local language.

[@sgrizzo48]

​@@etuannono it isn't, english is the freaking lingua franca, and so officials are required to speak it, especially in europe, and if that wasn't the case you can always ask embassies for help

[@KL-zt6jx]

​@@sgrizzo48 Exactly. It's the superiority that these people feel, that prevents them from actually respecting the people of their vacation country of choice. 😤 These kind of videos are just delicious because of the schadenfreude. 😂🤡

[@getmarvin]

They knew what they voted for... yet, this isn't the Brexit they voted for?

[@G_C340]

Of course it's what they voted for!

[@thomasjones6216]

They knew what they WANTED, not what they were going to get

[@friedrichjunzt]

No, they voted for some worldlord fantasy, not the real Brexit. So they are right: its not the Brexit they voted for ...

[@alanpage3973]

But they knew what they were voting for 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jtashaye6717]

Exactly 🙄

[@magicallouis]

They were told they didn't want to listen. Anyone that migrated abroad with an ounce of logical thinking knew that Brexit was a wild card.

[@cleebe6905]

“The forest was shrinking but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them.” They reap what they sow.

[@TheFlohRiDa]

ngl, I havent heard that saying before, damn

[@SteveDorrans]

"If you think education is expensive, try ignorance." Shame so many Brexiters really did try ignorance 😅

[@deejay1964]

Why does everyone tar those that voted to leave with the same brush. I had been advocating leaving the EU long before any referendum was mentioned, I voted with my conscience and my own research into how the EU really works, not the total BS and lies from Boris and his fanclub. I am neither ignorant, stupid or a moron, so please give the name calling a break.

[@davidlynch9049]

​@@deejay1964And you are old, right? Old people who thought leaving the EU was a magical solution to Britain's problems didn't understand the negative economic consequences that would result from leaving. You certainly should have done more research, but you definitely are not in a business that sold goods into the EU, or imported goods from the EU. You got sold a bad bag of promises and you believed it. I don't think you are very bright.

[@meljen8592]

Your comment is ignorant.

[@SteveDorrans]

@davidjmaggs Aaaaaw bless. I think I can see why your own research led you to vote to ruin our country. If it helps, try rereading my comment and see if you can find the bit where I said "so many" and not "all". And thanks for proving my point 😉 👍

[@fraserm803]

@steveDorrans My Country is not ruined.....

[@williammokrynski1305]

That someone owning a retirement property in France would even table the idea of voting for Brexit is astounding.

[@ulf5738]

People who voted for Brexit aren’t the smartest.

[@domhuckle]

Bewildering. These poor boomers are approaching their twighlight years in the knowledge that they've destroyed the counties infrastructure, driven the world to climate meltdown and have been swindled by a bunch of blatantly psychopathic villains, all whilst propping up a dystopian patriarchy

[@willieckaslike]

Apparently, many British immigrants living in Spain, voted Brexit: "to keep the immigrants out", whilst being to thick to realise they themselves are guess what ? Yep, that's right "bloody immigrants" as they call them !

[@richardgallagher4880]

Why? Did you see the harm re-krane has caused them?

[@richardgallagher4880]

Some people actually care about their country.

[@bobbluesbarker]

Brexit did me a huge favour. My partner and I had talked for years about moving to France, but we always found excuses as to why "now is not the right time". Brexit and the withdrawal agreement set a very definite time limit on "if we're going to do it, we need to do it now!". So we did. We moved over to France in October 2020. We literally put some of our possessions into a trailer, found somewhere to rent and moved! Waiting to see how the residency requirements panned out was a very tense time, but we applied for residency as soon as it was agreed. We both voted remain BTW, as neither of us believed the lies being peddled by the snake oil salesmen of the leave campaign!

[@TheFlohRiDa]

funny that you mention this btw, iirc, you could gain citizenship / permanent residency rather easily within the EU if you were fully commited to moving. So all those brexiteers bein out their with their asses in the wind is even more laughable, as they had the chances to grab the respective countrys citizenship.

[@simonsadler9360]

Did the same to Javea Costa Blanca , after divorce moved to Gaianes with all my gear ,still use a large lathe that was given to me by a friend , it came from the famous H.M.S Ganges , 80 + years old still working ,have a 57 year old Spanish companion MariCarmen , so Spanish is my prime language now , have adequate pension & only via Doctor Cortes at Alcoy hospital after 22 years , lost the pain of R.A , can't walk far so with docs at the local welfare office may get a disabled sticked , so many cars in & near the Alcoy area , about 3 weeks ago must have duckwalked 3 km Life is so cheap & healthy here .MariCarmen picking olives , record harvest & price this year, a sweet low acid oil . We use it for shallow frying .A typical mid morning break is lightly toasted breadstick a layer of olive oil & tomato mash Honey cheap , & a spoonfull per day below 40 o C an antibiotic . In Spain we care for our environment & wild life if lucky one of our beautiful now protected Lynx 2 families recieved massive fines last year for knocking down Swallows nests because the were shitting on their posh cars .Not knowing what good insecticides they are we love standing in the streets being divebombed by them & feeding their young . They fly before Autumn built in G.P S & return to same place The earth had flying birds & bees millions of years before humans as we know them today !.

[@simonsadler9360]

No rejoin until proportional representation , your corrupt don't want it , oh mother will lose all my £ trillions on the Isle of Man & my luxury home in the Carribean . Hoard candles you poor pensioners , never allowed in Spain, am a contributing member of the Spanish Red Cross ❌️ the president of course is a woman , we help poor folk , & via free flights take food & medicine to poor Africans , & our banks with humans to talk with have foundations to help the poor La Caixa per year € 25 millions, a student can't afford university fees has them paid & flights from all over the world , now providing wonderful meds to cure breast cancer and a simple treatment that gives two the diabetics self control of insulin . A backward country "Ojala " as we say I should coco !

[@joemann2178]

These people who want to live in Europe but don't want their country to be part of Europe, but want all privileges of being in Europe are the type of British people to stay away from when living abroad.

[@adrianfielding4678]

It's best to try to avoid them in the UK an' all.

[@logesch]

Many believe the British exude an air of ownership over the world, and it's not hard to see why. Despite the majority of English voters opting to leave the EU, they still anticipate retaining all the privileges of EU citizenship - a stance that can easily be perceived as entitlement.

[@reeleyes466]

Voting to leave the EU is not just about migration !! What a simpleton comment section where everything is reduced to one track topics ! There is a lot more to it

[@joemann2178]

@@reeleyes466 yeah like what? The shape of bananas, or the price of vacuum cleaners?

[@reeleyes466]

@@joemann2178 Shape of bananas is a very daft idea put about I guess by marketing and corporateocractic idealism. Price of vacuum cleaners, no idea about. I get mine second hand. Depends on spares maybe. On a market I lived near, you could buy various spare vacuum parts.

[@richardjames3022]

My heart bleeds for him!!!!!! NO, he got precisely what he wanted. More fooled him for believing Gove or ANY Tory. Why cannot we sue politicians for lying?? That would stop it in a second

[@henryjohnfacey8213]

Absolutely right. No transparency. No scrutiny. No accountability. A useless Media. Greetings from Yorkshire.

[@richardgallagher4880]

Did you want to look like ukrraine since they remained? Genius

[@iangascoigne8231]

@@richardgallagher4880What are you on about? It’s “Ukraine”. They’re not even in the EU, if that’s your point. Genius.

[@richardgallagher4880]

@@iangascoigne8231 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Are you realy so slow you don't know why it's spelt like that? Genius

[@richardgallagher4880]

@@iangascoigne8231 They are in the e.uuu. you seen zelen sign it over. Genius. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@shiftylad9938]

I talked to people in lanzarote that voted leave. They said it wouldn’t affect them and when I said it would I was told Sure we were out of it before and nothing affected them then. 😂 GB was a sick person of Europe .

[@marionlarkin1161]

Totally unaware of the rules which came in in the meantime.

[@mfredholm]

"GB was a sick person of Europe ." I need to correct you there, it should be Still Is!

[@RazorMouth]

The UK was never out of the EU pre 2016, it has always been a member because it was part of it when it was created in 1993.... it joined the EEC. There are stark differences between the two but I doubt Brexit yobs ever took the time to understand those differences and how they would affect them.

[@richardgallagher4880]

@@mfredholm Because of the failure of remain. How's your gas bill?🤣🤣🤣

[@mfredholm]

@@richardgallagher4880 1. I don't use gas, I have electricity. 2. I live in Sweden, so unlike little Ängerlandian Brexiteers I need not worry about my electricity bill, as we have a surplus and export. ))) 3. Leave is at the helm of your Government = Leave is 100% responsible and trying to blame others will not solve your problems.

[@carolekinson2412]

If he voted leave I have absolutely NO sympathy. I am an IMMIGRANT who live and work in France but I voted REMAIN.

[@chrish961]

whats so absolutely unbelievable is that they thought rules only apply to immigrants who come to the UK ....these Brits abroad are immigrants as well.....however, more unbelievable is that they trusted Gove

[@Pabz2030]

"Ex-patriot" is the definition for someone who lives in a country other than their country of Birth but intends to return "home" at some point. They are normally skilled and working or retired and on a pension and can be from any country not just the UK. "Immigrant" is the term given to someone who intends to permanently seek refuge in a country other than their birth country. Often they are unskilled economic migrants or migrants fleeing some persecution or war and they intend to claim permanent status in the destination country. AFAIK MOST Brits living in the EU therefore fall clearly under the term "Ex pat" and not "migrant" as would most EU citizens living in the UK, whereas thos coming from (eg) Africa to either the UK or the EU are more than likely immigrants and not ex-pats

[@Richard1A2B]

​@Pabz2030 by your definition, all the retirees (the subject of the video) are immigrants.

[@doctortrax]

@@Pabz2030 "Immigrant" is a neutral term from someone who has emigrated from (moved out of) their home country to another one, regardless of their economic status or reason for moving. Ex-pats are immigrants, whether they like the term or not. I emigrated from Sweden to the UK, so I'm an immigrant. A certain subset of British people will see me as a "good immigrant" or a "Swedish ex-pat" because I'm white and Sweden is a rich country. They would see themselves as "British ex-pats" if they moved to France or Spain, not as "British immigrants", because the term "immigrant" to them implies lower economic status - and often, let's face it, a darker skin tone - and since they're white and the UK is a rich country, clearly THEY can't be immigrants (lower status), so they refer to themselves as ex-pats (higher status). Migrants fleeing war or persecution are asylum seekers, because they're seeking refuge and not moving for education, work or love. It's immigration too, just a very different process.

[@eleSDSU]

​@@Pabz2030that is bullshit and everyone knows it. "Ex-pat" is a way of avoiding using the the word "Immigrant" when talking about white British immigrants because those people are the same ones that support and fall for the vilification of non-white/non-angloid immigrants, it's weaponized language for political goals. It's easy to dehumanize immigrants when "they" are immigrants but "we" are ex-pats, being immigrant is bad and a drag on the economy while being an ex-pat is good and "our right as Brits"; the first step in every fascist playbook is to create arbitrary ingroups/outgroups to dehumanize the outgroups so you can do anything to them from social murder to putting "them" in camps.

[@rodrigojds]

@@Pabz2030that is not the definition of expat nor immigrant. Maybe that’s the definition you made up to feel good about yourself..because immigrant is such a dirty word right? All those unskilled people seeking refuge in another country…right?

[@gagaplex]

It's so weird to see people knowinglx vote against their own interests and then complain that their interests were affected negatively.

[@MrYorickJenkins]

Only weird to someone who is totally 100% egotistic in everything he does

[@kraftymum]

Let me introduce you to the conservative Republican voters in the United States. Their party politicians convince them to do just that every 2 years.

[@LMM7880]

You are describing everyone who votes republican.

[@VvpandoravV]

@@LMM7880came here to say this as an American 😁

[@reeleyes466]

Nothing has changed hardly for expatriates and those who emigrated / migrated / went overseas / became outlanders etc etc - it is mostly media nonsense hype and propaganda

[@jimmccourt349]

Please stop calling them "expats" call them what they really are British migrants. Suits when it's people coming to UK. One rule for us .

[@tixien]

Language is difficult, isn’t it? Expatriate comes from Latin « exo » (outside) and « Patrida » (fatherland). An expatriate is a person who lives outside their fatherland. Immigrant/emigrant is based on movement (Latin immigrare), it’s someone who is on the move, either leaving a place/country (emigrant) or entering one (immigrant). So you and the countless ignorant people making the same illiterate remark month after month after month could start learning their own language first, couldn’t you? Just to spare yourself some (more) embarrassment.

[@yokaiou5848]

​@tixien isn't that just semantics?

[@arnoackermann6584]

@@yokaiou5848 It really isn't it. Expat is a tern only used for migrants who are white and come from Western countries - why they deserve a separate term i don't know.

[@birdinthebush]

​@@tixienI'm a foreigner living in UK. Am I also an expat or does that word only apply to Brits living in my country?

[@tixien]

@@yokaiou5848 Semantics as in « words have a meaning and two words have two different meanings »? It very much is indeed. And if it’s tomatoe/tomatoe, why always raising the (illiterate) point?

[@Tluangtea]

Retiring to a country while voting against its connection with your country at the same time? How did they think it was gonna work out?

[@ragnar97]

Because brits always think rules don't apply to them. Hell, I'm a spaniard and I've been told in my own country that I couldn't go into a bookstore because it was only for brits. Then they are surprised when people tell them to fuck off.

[@celticlofts]

Well they arrogantly thought that the Spanish needed them more than they needed Spain and that the Spanish would bend over backwards to accommodate them. They didn't.

[@domoreilly6093]

@@celticlofts Same with the German car industry, French cheese and wine and they're still going on about tourism

[@whatwhat3432523]

The fact that there was no experts on the panel to challenge Gove, says everything you ever need to know about The UK, and its media.

[@neilmcbeath954]

Yes, but remember, Gove was the idiot who said that he thought "the British people have had enough of experts".

[@HelenaMikas]

Who needed an expert to tell them they had a) their sovereignty & b ) inform them they were really leading the good life .Freedom of movement. I never realised so many British were utterly stupid .. Could be they dined on "Oven ready meals" which had addled their brains ...

[@MrYorickJenkins]

Its even worse in Germany

[@redboyjan]

​@@neilmcbeath954pandering to the idiot class. Them that believe the earth is flat, 5g kills babies and that Trump is good

[@condorboss3339]

As a Canadian, I see one benefit to Brexit: A lot of Quebecois are looking at Britain and thinking that 'leave' is not as good an idea as they previously believed.

[@nikoladedic6623]

Oh, that's interesting. Didn't expect that something could change their minds.

[@MrYorickJenkins]

A pits that Quebec didnt break away when it had the chance from touchy feely multicultural Canada

[@MrYorickJenkins]

@@firetv2169 Iam sure they enjoy living in the gilded cage of a liberal dictatorship in a country which treats the environment with contempt

[@sisuguillam5109]

​@@MrYorickJenkinsare you quite sure you understand the political situation in Canada?

[@MrYorickJenkins]

@@sisuguillam5109 That Canada is repressive and puritanical was made obvious to the world during the years of the covid hysteria when the government took the step of closing the bank accounts of political opponents. . That Canada treats the environment with utter contempt is reported on frequenetly and those reports have been coming in for over 20 years now. But if there is more to Canada which is important to understand, of course you should feel free to say,.

[@bumblingborisbuffoon6259]

I have heard Brits on holiday in Spain, complaining that there was too many Spanish people by the pool.

[@Bronek.Konarski]

​@@francocanuck Er, not quite. It would be like the Canadians complaining that there were too many Americans in the pool.

[@rustynail1194]

I'm the opposite when I go to Portugal. I moan there's too many Brits. Me included? 😂 😝 😊

[@alphabarre9096]

​@@francocanucknot the same guy 🙄🤓🙈

[@GCS88]

Brits are a special kind of entitled weirdos, whenever I go to Malaga, Nerja to be specific I'd always encounter a couple of old red faced Brit that would look at me up and down as if I shouldn't be there, there was one occasion at a beach that seemed to be a go to place by these people that I heard one telling his wife after seeing me "look at that Mary theyre here as well" Imagine being so out of touch to the world around You thinking that because someone doesnt look like you cannot understand You and gives You the right to say nasty stuff. I'd prefer the Irish on this matter, they are funny and seem to integrate a bit better.

[@andyetheridge]

I live in the south of France, i was here before Brexit and because of that i now hold a resident permit. I live about 30 minutes from an airport and avoid the shops when planes arrive from the UK. You can spot and hear a Brit a mile off, most are something to avoid at all costs!

[@patriciahiggins9188]

Why isn't Michael Gove in prison?

[@phillipwong3754]

"I enjoyed and planning to live in an EU country indefinitely, but I voted for BREXIT so the future generations can't enjoy what I had"

[@johnrussell3961]

The UK could not say how UK citizens would be treat indefinitely. The EU members are free to change the rules. It’s called sovereignty .

[@HelenaMikas]

Well said ,every nation has such and always did .The dumb Brexit voters believed that only leaving the EU could give Britain it's sovereignty .Others wanted to keep foreigners out of Britain .Joke since they had a haven overseas.Nasty types .

[@jamesholden6142]

sovereignty is why the UK left the EU

[@paulhargreaves1497]

​@@jamesholden6142Do you drink Sovrin Tea hot or cold?

[@hotsoupknor5657]

If it depended on me they would be kicked out of my country assap, that bunch of filthy dumb racists

[@staggabob]

The EU took back control 🤣(I'm not really sure why I'm laughing, I have to live in this collapsing state surrounded by imbeciles)

[@mnky75]

I'm sorry everyone, i only have a slither of compassion for the "Expats" who knew the damage it would cause, but thought they were untouchable. Pure act of selfishness if you ask me!

[@howtoappearincompletely9739]

You show a bodhisattva-like capacity for compassion in managing even a slither.

[@sarahbarrett1247]

Keep your sympathy for those who deserve it. These entitled, selfish individuals deserve not even a grain of sympathy.

[@tss9886]

As far as i can tell Brexit voters thought they could have their cake and eat it too.

[@pazitor]

As a continental, I am _absolutely thrilled_ to see the beaches of southern Europe become livable again, and the resorts and restaurants become peaceful dining venues again. The quality of holiday and second home destinations is inversely proportional to the amount of English one hears spoken, especially during football season.

[@MerelyGifted]

OMG and I bet the yanks are the absolute worst. I'm one myself & have a V low opinion of at least 20% of my fellow yanks.

[@Pabz2030]

Clearly you are talking absolute nonesense. I recommend heading down to one of the costa's high season and enjoy the many EU and non EU nationals getting blind drunk and having fights. Or the many African and others pickpocketing the tourists.

[@lizroberts1569]

I lived in the ME and people kept telling me there were English people I could be friends with 😂 I went there to avoid people and widen my knowledge not converse in English and eat British food.

[@nikolaslarson6891]

You nailed it! 😂

[@tefalhead7396]

Yeah, but now you've got climate change to deal with. Sunbathing in 40C on a beach? No thanks. And it's only going to get worse unfortunately.

[@christophermzdenek]

As a citizen of the USA, I find this endlessly fascinating. Not that it surprises me. The history (very recent and ongoing at that) of American citizens voting in stark contrast to their personal interests and well-being is well documented. I suppose I can take some solace, if not gallows humor, in that we aren't the only Western Nation to cut off our toe to spite our foot. I wish you the same good fortune I hope for yus.

[@stefenney3126]

Sometimes you need to see the greater picture. It's not all about yourself.

[@MrYorickJenkins]

"Well documented" by whom haha how naive can you be. "Well documented" indeed!

[@reeleyes466]

No it is not like that, this comments section is highly ignorant of living overseas and have read some articles. There is no difference really. This is mostly absolute BULL to be frank - propaganda by left wing idiotic media who exaggerate and do not check facts due to the inherent bias. The fearmongering is absurd. There is NO DIFFERENCE to people living overseas NONE, only some slight paperwork.

[@DoritoBot9000]

Human stupidity is universal. This could have sadly happened in any country….

[@MrYorickJenkins]

@@DoritoBot9000 Human arrogance is universal too and your comment is an excellent example of it.

[@bertrackmunisz1684]

When the "LEAVE" result of the poll was clear, I couldn't believe it at first. When, a short time later, Michel Barnier was appointed EU negotiator, I was reassured because it was now clear that there would be no excessive concessions from the EU. Brexit means Brexit, with all the consequences, no bonus, no cherry picking. The bill will be paid by ordinary people, who hopefully will never vote for these politicians again. In Germany the process is called "learning through pain".

[@trident6547]

Michel Barnier, in his book " My secret Brexit diary A glorious illusion" confirms that the EU council specifically instructed him that UK, in the negotiations for the Withdrawal Agreement, should not have any benefits EU members have. That also debunks all the "soft brexit" alternatives remainers/rejoiners talk about with reamining in the single market and customs union as an alternative to what UK has now.

[@Ohne_Silikone]

@@trident6547 and for good reasons, if you further spoil the already spoiled child that sais Fyou, I am out, the other 27 children will run amok and for good reasons.

[@ianreid]

How well is it going for the EU? oh wait others wanting to leave inc GERMANY are talking about withdrawing get a life remoaners. We are not out never will be but being punished yes

[@Ohne_Silikone]

@@ianreid get your facts straight. Even the European parties cuddling with fascism don't want to leave anymore. It has become awfully silent in that respect. Yes they do protest a lot, maybe even more now that they feel leaving is not a valid option. Ever since the consequences of Brexit leaving hasn't been an issue anymore. I commend Britain for that. Britain has made itself the example.

[@davidlynch9049]

​@@ianreidNo, living here in Germany, there is even more support for the EU because we see how damaging it is to leave. The pumpkins who voted for Brexit were mostly old, uneducated nationalists who still believed in British exceptionalism. Fine, enjoy your independence!

[@thesmiffable]

The reason people could vote for Brexit while owning property and living in the EU is British exceptionalism - and let’s not mince words because that really means English exceptionalism

[@marsupiomarsupi4421]

Brexiter: "I voted for Brexit... Now I can't live in my Italian house"... But you can holiday in the UK... oops, Brexiters ditched EU clean waters laws 😲: "UK waters are too polluted to swim in.. Almost all of the UK’s waterways are polluted. " (Loughborough University 17 April 2023 ) … "England's most dangerous beaches to swim - Find beaches near you where pollution levels have reached the point where swimming could become dangerous.." (Mirror 21 Apr 2023 ) .. "Water bosses issue grovelling apology after millions of tons of sewage dumped in Britain’s rivers and coasts " (Daily Mail 17 May 2023) .. "Sewage discharge into UK’s rivers may be ten times higher than previously thought according to research by the Marine Conservation Society..." (Telegraph 6 June 2023) .. "No swimming, no surfing: how a summer of sewage is ruining the British seaside day out.." (Guardian 18 Jun 2023 )

[@c.w.8200]

Lol, my paranoid schizophrenic sister took a swim in the Thamse in February and got a massive ear infection, no sane person would get in there.

[@johnhutchins5448]

He said "if you're legally and ordinarily resident in another country " all your rights will be respected. So he was technically correct because that's what happened as he knew it would. He also knew though that the woman asking the question had a holiday house in France and was almost certainly a UK resident and not a resident of France but he didn't want to address that or ask her about it because it would require a completely different answer which was that her rights to live in France would change massively. So he deliberately twisted his answer to relate only to persons legally and ordinarily resident in France but intentionally giving her and his audience the impression that nothing in her situation would be different. He knew exactly what her situation would be post Brexit but didn't want to tell her the truth because it wasn't the outcome he was promoting. What an oily, mendacious and deceptive man.

[@daisy9910]

I'd love that woman to be interviewed today, and see what she thinks of it all.

[@rbh51]

As a legally and ordinary resident of Spain (I have “residencia” here in Spain) - yes all my rights have been respected. Life goes on more or less the same as before - have access to the Spanish health care system - pay Spanish taxes - still a bit of struggle with the language. When going out if the country I present my PERIMISO DE RESIDENCIA together with my new (colour) UK Passport & have had no problems. The only thing that gives me a feeling of trepidation is arriving at UK Border Control. When entering an EU country I have never been asked where I have travelled from - only happens when entering UK. We have reached the point where we feel that we don’t want to travel back to the UK - only do so when it is a necessity. I don’t even think of my self as British - maybe I am fortunate that can create an alternative national identity that is instantly recognised here in Spain - I say I am Scottish - soy escosés. My one great hope is that Scotland becomes an independent and sovereign state.

[@reeleyes466]

This is mostly absolute BULL to be frank - propaganda by left wing idiotic media who exaggerate and do not check facts due to the inherent bias. The fearmongering is absurd. There is NO DIFFERENCE to people living overseas NONE, only some slight paperwork.

[@Reqwulf]

Too late.

[@patrickspendrin3107]

I wanted to make that point as well. The problem was that the advantages of the residency wasn't as obvious/pressing for a pre-Brexit-Brit as it was after the Brexit. But he clearly mentions that this is about residency, and not about holiday home owners.

[@666izzy]

He's not actually lying. Countries in the EU do respect international law. If one meets the requirements, one can live in any EU country, just as many people do. The problem is - which he's carefully not mentioning - the rules that apply to Brits changed when the UK left the EU

[@jonsen2k]

Yeah, that was confusing me a bit. Like, what international law was he even talking about?

[@hasenhirn1965]

Thats right. Brits are no longer EU members and therefore dont have the same rights as EU citizens. you voted for, so come over it. Its not the fault of the EU the that the Brexeteer are dumper than a feet of street. But do they remind what the Brexit Pobulist said about imigrants in the UK ?

[@kenjohnson3174]

Thats not what happened.. The international rules did not change for Brits. They are the same now as before Brexit. What happened is we left the EU and which being a member, included the Schengen agreement visa rules even though we never signed up to the Schengen agreement. Having left the club we lose any of the club benefits that we had. Just like leaving a golf club You cant play on the coarse or use the club house

[@elipa3]

The UK is a third state now. Everyone could have informed themselves about the conditions of being a third state.

[@TheComputec]

@@elipa3 A lot of undecided voters or those who didn't think it would affect them were perhaps swayed by the reassuring commentary from politicians and the mainstream media I don't blame those who bought the lie. Not everyone spends a lot of time online researching or following politics closely I only blame those that were fervently pro brexit and the "leave" campaign organisers. Having said that, you have to admit it, they did a better job with their campaigning that the Remain campaign, even if it was all lies and BS

[@RenghisKhan]

Fun fact, those bell ends that urged for Brexit all have the financial means to live anywhere they like in Europe. They were in fact among the few that had nothing to lose from Britain leaving the EU.

[@reeleyes466]

This is mostly absolute BULL to be frank - propaganda by left wing idiotic media who exaggerate and do not check facts due to the inherent bias. The fearmongering is absurd. There is NO DIFFERENCE to people living overseas NONE, only some slight paperwork.

[@CarlosArias-hq8vm]

Great analysis. Gove is very clever in his answer because he gives a response to the British citizens living in the EU at that moment. It was clear that some form of agreement was to be done so they could remain living in the EU. However, it was not up to the British government to define the arrangements for any British citizen deciding after Brexit to live in the EU or those who did not meet the criteria for a resident permit. On another note, I think we need to start calling British immigrants for what they are “Immigrants” and stop calling them “ex-pats”. This is what I’m part creates the exceptionalism that makes them think they are special and above other immigrants.

[@joesoy9185]

A British immigrant can be someone of overseas British nationality immigrating to the UK. British ex-pats are all British Citizens resident in the whole world outside the UK.

[@NeilCWCampbell]

But we hold all the cards in the best oven ready deal in history

[@stephengraham1153]

@@NeilCWCampbell Ha ha, and project fear won't frighten brexiteer British immigrants 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Maybe they should rename it project truth.

[@andyknowles772]

I'm a British citizen living in an EU member state. I'm an immigrant. But it's interesting how even the locals who bring up immigration tend to say "of course, we don't mean you", largely because visually I am indiscernible from them. Unfortunately, "immigrant" means "different skin colour", and it's not just a British conceit.

[@MrFuckwit999]

Not clever at all, it was an outright lie. There is nothing in international law that meant ex-pats would retain all their EU citizen rights, as we clearly see now.

[@reedp44]

Before the referendum I was hoping to retire to Greece when my retirement came due. I knew at that time that if we left the EU I would not be able to. One of the many reasons I voted remain despite the obvious faults of the EU. Now I am retired and instead of fulfilling my dream I am stuck in a racist, xenophobic country run by a racist, xenophobic government and an MSM that follows the same “values”

[@apveening]

Did you check the Irish option?

[@Stichelfritz]

There are UK oversees territories on Cyprus, but maybe that is only for military or retired-military personal and families. It's not Greece but the climate is alike and perhaps a bit hotter. I do understand how you feel know that option is cut off.

[@apveening]

@@Stichelfritz Only active military personal and their dependents.

[@JenMaxon]

We sort of had the same plan but with a view to retiring to live in Germany for a while. So, we got jobs here (Germany) instead and applied for residency before Brexit was finalised. We'll retire in a few years or so.

[@MrYorickJenkins]

Brits in Cyprus and Spain have contributed signifcantly to the building of ugly villas there spoiling the landscape and pushing up prices for locals. A good point about Brexit is that it has put a stop to that or at least dramatically slowed it down.

[@driverdown7694]

Unfortunately it's more likely that the people who voted for Brexit will blame the EU for 'punishing' them for leaving, rather than accept the fact that they were lied to by the leave campaign. It's like that old saying that it's easier to trick someone than convince someone that they've been tricked, people don't like admitting that they've made a mistake or been taken for fools.

[@billmitchell7904]

Pants on fire! Many people also thought removing freedom of movement only applied to people coming to the UK and not to us 😂

[@Manu-Official]

British leaving the UK: Expats Anyone coming to the UK: Migrants Exceptionalism in action, ''they need us more than we need them''.

[@candidaprout560]

Good morning Max and all here 🌻. I know a lot of British that live in Europe 🇪🇺 and as they applied for residence immediately they have not problems. Only the ones that they didn't are complaining now. Gove Johnson Rees -Mogg Farage 😝 lied. How many lost bank accounts?Does Farage care about the bank accounts of these British abroad? Thanks Max for talking about it

[@kerryburns6041]

As an English immigrant in rural Spain, I find that locally we refer to Brits who refuse to learn even a bit of the language and look on the Spanish as "Foreigners" while refusing to integrate -- as Expats. Immigrants in my experience are welcomed into the community, as soon as they show their commitment by learning a bit of Spanish and understanding local customs. It could be different in the cities. We joke about the expat who complains he has lived in this village for five years, and they STILL can't speak English.

[@kerryburns6041]

@@firetv2169 I was told that the Spanish speak, not to communicate, but to express, which I find useful. I think with the English, we do it the other way round. This can be an obstacle even before you reach the grammar, and your body language needs to be clearly understandable as well as your Español ... ( if you make a complete ass of yourself, you can always pretend to be American ).

[@carolekinson2412]

I live in Southwest France and we call people who don't learn French, look down on the French who insist they are expats ( I am an immigrant who both work and live in France) we call these people the RAJ. Mainly retired who thought they were better than the rest, however the cak hit the fan when they realised they couldn't live here, but return to the UK for their Dentist, prescriptions etc.....karma is a bitch ❤

[@kerryburns6041]

@@firetv2169Muy bien, gracias. Learning Español in Andalucia is like a Spaniard learning English in Newcastle ! Wayaye man !

[@bennathan7353]

An expat isn’t interested in being a citizen, an imageant is applying for citizenship. I’m British living in france almost for my citizenship so I’m definitely not an ex pat, definitely an immigrant

[@MoneyGist]

The Remainer politicians WERE boring as hell. I say this as someone who watched the entire spectacle from outside the country. John Oliver (a British comedian based in the US) did a much better job of pointing out the folly of Brexit than any politician in the UK did.

[@raybo64]

It turns out the the EU IS following international rules. Unfortunately for the British migrants in EU countries, international rules do not overpower national and the special EU rules that have been AGREED by the EU Member States. As the UK is no longer a Member State of the EU, it is not covered by those rules any longer. Oooooooops. Whoever would have figured that? And still some don't understand.

[@Pabz2030]

Clearly you are someone with zero actual knowledge of how laws work.

[@medd1990]

Yes, after 2:10 any good journalist should have asked him what "international rules" he's referring to. In particular the one that says freedom of movement is a one-way street.

[@joeparker1990]

My grandparents retired to spain. My mum and dad wanted to but after voting for Brexit, realized it was impossible. It's something me and my sister have always planned to do, as we spent months on end at my grandparents, and loved the lifestyle. The crazy thing is, my sister also voted for Brexit. My Mum, Dad, sister and brother-in-law all have to stay in the UK now, with no chance of retiring to Spain, as you need a pension of almost £3500 a month( per couple), and private health insurance on top of that, to be allowed in. I've got 20 odd years til I retire and its touch and go for if if I'll be able to afford it, but I'm trying like mad to make provisions for it. I voted to remain, because I was 100% aware this would happen. Oh, and by the way, my parents, sister and brother-in-law all said they'd vote differently if given another chance.

[@elipa3]

Too late now. Brexit is done and cant be undone.

[@MrYorickJenkins]

It is interesting and frnakly surprising that the Spanish government demands that foreigners show evidence of income so high. Are you sure you are right about health insurance? I thought that there was no mandatory health insurance in Spain, meaning you could live there without health insurance if you wnated to. You just cant as a foreigner benefit from the national system. Have I got that wrong? Given that there is no compulsory reigstration of residency in Spain (or there didnt use to be) how do the authroities actually know which Brits are in permanent residenc eand which just have a holiday home?

[@verucasalt9182]

To be honest as a Spaniard I find the rules of Spain staggering and unfair for citizens that can support themselves and will no ve a burden to the system but make all sort of facilities to immigrants that drain the welfare state the country taking it from the mouths from the local people . ☹️

[@gabriellejudd1]

Too bad... Too late.

[@MrYorickJenkins]

@@verucasalt9182 They must be new rules. There are famous Englishmen of the past who lived in Spain without high levels of income Robert Graves in his younger days and Roy Campbell so sometime post war these rules must have nee introduced

[@johnfearnley7712]

How on earth a resident of Spain voted for Brexit is beyond comprehension! Presumably they voted for Johnson and Truss too.

[@x24valveman]

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, An outright lie is a disaster

[@richardgallagher4880]

And you remainers are still gobbing off after remain has killed so many

[@stephengraham1153]

Especially in the hands of a brexiter.

[@x24valveman]

@@richardgallagher4880 killed????

[@breadyegg]

@@richardgallagher4880 that's a new one. you're going to have to unpack it a bit though as to WTF you're talking about.

[@alfonsohorcajada4399]

Zero sympathy for Brexiteers immigrants, UK is now a 3rd country for the rest of the EU and shall be treated as such.😊

[@graemehancocks4171]

Brexiteers are unbelievable……..I have no sympathy for them. The people I have sympathy for are those who did not vote for this nonsense yet suffer it’s consequences.

[@johnogroats3318]

Don’t call them brexiteers that’s their word!

[@richardgallagher4880]

@@johnogroats3318 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Now it's your word you made up. We call ourselves normal people. You made the word up because you don't want yo accept you're ttttraitooors.

[@richardgallagher4880]

There is not one negative consequence.

[@richardgallagher4880]

You know who I feel sorry for? The 3 5 0 k dead because you voted remaiin.

[@johnogroats3318]

@@richardgallagher4880 give your head a wobble lol. Gb news ain’t it bro.

[@mandycouchbean]

Zero Shame Zero Self Awareness

[@petert1692]

First person: He lived outside the UK, but didn’t want others to live in the UK. The hypocritical thickness is 😂😂😂😂😂.

[@israeldepedro7522]

I just cannot muster any sympathy for these people, they basically thought they could abuse EU countries' hospitality and get away with it. Well, turns out they couldn't.

[@Ohne_Silikone]

But they are VICTIMS, very different from the poor refugees that arrive in Britain.

[@jazzx251]

@firetv2169 These abusive little-Englanders need to come home and pick some fruit.

[@christians6734]

Well wasn't this the motivation behind the colonisation by the British and building the "Empire". Taking over green pastures in order to exploit them, thus avoiding having to work hard and earn your wealth? De Gaulle was right, the Brits should not have been permitted to join in the first place. The decline of the UK, which was stopped by the admission to the EU in the 70s will now continue. Bon voyage.

[@deejay1964]

So it's bad for Brits to abuse the hospitality of EU countries, but okay for EU citizens to abuse British hospitality.

[@israeldepedro7522]

@@deejay1964 Russia is not a member of the EU.

[@Adipsia1]

I fell out with my NatWest BANK MANAGER - who was a good friend - back in 2016 over Brexit. He had a beautiful property in France that himself and his wife were looking to retire to, and yet through some bizarre cognitive-dissonance decided that voting leave was a great thing. Turkeys and Christmas ??? As for Gove... I'm perplexed as to how anyone could ever have believed a word out of the mouth of this slimy little Grima Wormtongue.

[@Eurobrasil550]

Not a lot of use to those less fortunate but as a retired Bank Manager his pension would almost certainly be enough for him to meet the financial requirements of French Residency as a non EU citizen, 'I'm alright Jack' 🙁

[@chriswood3252]

How could this have happened, if the government was completely honest, truthful and informative and heeded the experts? 😵‍💫

[@candidaprout560]

Good morning to you 🌞

[@scooby1992]

In fact Michael Gove was the minister who said ' we have had enough of experts ? '

[@DavoInMelbourne]

The Tory government honest?

[@satisfied656]

Stupidity always had it´s prize!😏Well done👏

[@nielsjensen4185]

Doing those things are opposed to the values of Conservative ideology. So, of course, they were dismissed.

[@Kalmazookid]

Funny how a Brit living abroad is an ”expat” and a person moving to UK is an ”immigrant”.

[@JHF_Gaming]

My sympathy is reserved for the people dragged kicking and screaming from the EU, not for the ones who bought the lies of the Brexiteers and labeled anyone telling them the truth as Project Fear.

[@carlsummers2316]

Like Camerons it could lead to world war 111 "truth". That was straight from the heart 😂😂.

[@jensatts7125]

Thank you. As an ardent remainder, it makes me incredibly sad that the UK has come to this. I've got multiple sclerosis and I need a functioning NHS and care sector and it's all gone. This government have destroyed the country, for everyone.

[@reeleyes466]

This is mostly absolute BULL to be frank - propaganda by left wing idiotic media who exaggerate and do not check facts due to the inherent bias. The fearmongering is absurd. There is NO DIFFERENCE to people living overseas NONE, only some slight paperwork.

[@Cosmic_Catgirl]

I was literally a few months too young to vote during the brexit referendum, I will forever be angry at people who voted leave and dashed my hopes for being able to live and work in the EU. I still plan to do that, but it'll be so much more difficult.

[@countmorbid3187]

Those ppl saw what was coming and prob sorted all out way before it got real. While the "leave" morons did nothing and acted surprised when getting evicted 😂

[@SqueakyWeasel247]

If a businessman made these ridiculously false claims about his products or services there would be some sort of punishment or accountability. I live in Germany and, ironically, couldn't vote as I'd been living outside of the UK over 15 years which makes this whole thing even worse for me as it was taken out of my hands. I have only just received permission to stay for another 5 years (I am hoping for permanent and there remains a chance of that). I truly loved London and was so proud of my home country up until the 2012 Olympics when you couldn't go anywhere in the world without seeing a Union flag or hearing about stories of visits or planned visits. But … it's changed so much now. I've spent three years in limbo and can finally sleep without worrying about that knock on the door in the middle of the night. Wherever I go people ask how something so good could be allowed to be screwed up by ••••• ••• ••••••• (fill in the blanks yourselves). I sincerely hope I never have to go back and live in the UK I hardly recognise!

[@armadspengler2717]

I have never understood how in the world it could be justified in a democratic system to exclude people with a British passport from taking part in this referendum just because they have lived outside the country for a certain amount of time. Does this also apply to parliamentary elections in the UK? Are people excluded there as well and lose their rights as a citizen?

[@SqueakyWeasel247]

@@armadspengler2717 Actually, I think the law has changed, the conservatives got rid of the 15 year rule in 2022 (I think) and implemented a "Vote for life" rule (out of interest Labour were against this). To heap irony on to of irony if this would have been in place in 2016 it could well have made a difference to the 52%/48% outcome.

[@maryalexa7136]

Notice how carefully Gove chose his words. He is expert at telling half-truths which are far more dangerous than downright lies

[@martinwright5113]

I’ve seen this a few times and that exactly what I think too. He says “ordinarily resident” which leaves his statement open to interpretation

[@WOK-YT-handle]

@@martinwright5113 exactly

[@flybywire5866]

Expert liar. And as he himself stated, people are sick of experts.😂

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

@@flybywire5866 I hope that the voters trust now experts again

[@davidmatthews3093]

Exactly.

[@frankhooper7871]

"Able to lie and tell the truth at the same time" - isn't that a prerequisite for being a politician?

[@nikolaslarson6891]

How can anybody be so painfully thick as to not foresee the consequences of such an idiotic vote. They plainly deserve their fate...

[@MrYorickJenkins]

Yea remonaer all that matters is memememe right?

[@normanmeharry58]

​@@MrYorickJenkinsWTF are u talking about?

[@MrYorickJenkins]

Many people probably voted leave in reaction to the arrogance of people like you

[@MrYorickJenkins]

@@normanmeharry58 mememe is the credo of remainers. All they think about is "me". Like the EU which they so admire, it is all about their personal interest, their personal advantage. There is precious little talk about the ideals of unity and the brotherhood of man sung in their cheezy ninth symphony anthem. The EU is all about consumerism and egotism. I honestly think I could present a better case for European unity than the remainers could or can. That is WTF I am talking about.

[@thePronto]

@MrYorickJenkins UK economy doing well, poor Yorick? Alas not...

[@donincognito189]

I usually try to follow James O'Brien's "compassion for the conned, contempt for the conmen" mantra, but it really astounds me that Brits living in the EU didn't do a little more homework about the consequences of voting to leave. I don't mean asking someone heading up the Leave campaign for advice (!) but instead talking to someone who understood how the EU works. If they did that and voted remain then they have my sympathy, otherwise..... well, they knew what they were voting for🙄

[@garethaethwy]

It's easy to have compassion for those who accept they were conned, but not when they're still sipping that snake oil & complaining about the totally predictable consequence of their own actions...

[@SirAntoniousBlock]

The law says different, those that enable, support or otherwise assist liars criminals and traitors to commit theft and manslaughter are not victims, they're accomplices.

[@richardgallagher4880]

Stop listening to him, listen to me. Tony Blair conned you into thinking the 4ourthhreich is a trading body. Sort your head out you deluded fool.

[@bornach]

I just tried Googling "Vienna Convention Brexit expats" and the top results were all parroting this same pro-Leave talking point even to this day. During the run up to the EURef, the Leave campaign made sure they Search Engine Optimized their lies to top of Google search results. What chance had these unsophisticated immigrants against such a well funded sophisticated campaign?

[@Pabz2030]

Many Brits legally resident in an EU country were unable to vote in the referendum.

[@puravidadew7031]

It is so good to see that those people who voted for Brexit are now getting the shaft.

[@reeleyes466]

But they are not - this is nonsense and media hype, there is 90% no difference at all, apart from details in paperwork, this is pure garbage

[@Tiabliaj1989]

About time, everyone else was feeling it ages ago. Now the rich cunts can suffer.

[@Ludydobry]

its pure bliss

[@jwgolf5442]

Unfortunately the people who voted to stay are also ‘getting the shaft’

[@janetgriffin7779]

Are we supposed to feel sorry for them???

[@cormackeenan8175]

What part of ‘They left the EU so they could control their own borders and decide who lives and doesn’t live in the UK’ do they not understand, and how was that not going to apply to them reciprocally?

[@HelenaMikas]

They truly think they are exceptional .'Err true 'Exceptionally silly'...

[@idonthavealoginname]

If you lived in your property before Brexit and registered there was no problem to stay in your respective country if you followed the rules but not if you have just a holiday home.

[@freyjasvansdottir9904]

That’s not true. In order to stay you need a permanent residence permit, and you can’t get one in many EU countries if you aren’t working inn the country. Hence, if you intended to live off your savings you can’t stay and won’t be granted a permanent residence permit.

[@johngamble967]

Yes becoming resident was the key.

[@peterreed3104]

He wanted the Cake and was so thick he choked on it! Just Live in Italy or sell up and Survive in the Britain you Voted For

[@garethaethwy]

@@freyjasvansdottir9904 Surely as an EU citizen exercising freedom of movement rights you were entitled to residence whatever your means of support (savings, investments, pension, earnings, whatever), & it's only now that UK citizens aren't EU citizens does means of support become an issue?

[@RazorMouth]

​@@freyjasvansdottir9904that's pretty much what he was trying to say

[@davidtrescatorce]

Let's dive into the minds of those Brexiters who love living abroad, shall we? On one hand, they expect to continue relishing life in other countries during vacations and retirement. But on the flip side, they seem a bit reluctant to welcome people from those very same countries to go to Britain to work and make a substantial contribution to society (which, let's be real, can be way more impactful than their budget-friendly holidays in Italy). Quite the conundrum, right? 🤔

[@godot-whatyouvebeenwaitingfor]

If you play at a Golf Club then stop paying the fees and leave, guess what? You are not allowed to play golf there any more...

[@mb106429]

We're still paying VAT though, becuz were iteligunt

[@ribhowell3494]

On behalf of all slimy things, we protest about being compared to Michael Gove! Thank you.

[@royfearn4345]

Yea, slimy things did crawl with legs Upon a slimy sea. T.S. Coleridge

[@ApeOfMyIdeal]

"I thought Brexit would only effect foreigners living in a country I claim as my own, but where I no longer live. Because I'm just that kind of person". The literal definition of trying to have one's cake and eat it at the same time. Hard to feel sorry for them, really.

[@richardgallagher4880]

What does any of that have to do with leaving naaazzi 🇩🇪?

[@ApeOfMyIdeal]

@@richardgallagher4880 You may have to explain that one to me. I don't speak Idiot.

[@antoniodejesusviveiros528]

I rejoice in the laments of the Brexiteers, "I can't live in my Italian castle", "I don't have public health in Spain and the medicines ruin my retirement savings" Being co-founders of the E.U. and to think that it is better to leave the club but obtain the same privileges and advantages without being a member is, to say the least, a mockery of human intelligence. But as good British citizens and patriots, remember in your prayers thank Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron for the BREXIT initiative, and his legacy-defending predecessors Theresa May, Boris (straw-haired) Johnson, Truss and Sunak

[@Muchoyo]

Every time (it happens now and then) I can't remember the name of Sunak's predecessor as UK's PM, I simply think "mistrust" and it instantly pops up.

[@siamzero9480]

Successors, Brown was his predecessor

[@reeleyes466]

This is mostly absolute BULL to be frank - propaganda by left wing idiotic media who exaggerate and do not check facts due to the inherent bias. The fearmongering is absurd. There is NO DIFFERENCE to people living overseas NONE, only some slight paperwork.

[@Guus-qv2ef]

No fueron fundadores,entraron después.

[@massimobernardo-]

Co-founder E.U 5 Italy ,France, W Germany , Netherlands,Belgium, Luxembourg

[@Hascienda27]

I voted for it when I was A teenager because I trusted the NHS bus and honestly it was the stupidest thing i've ever done and regret it now I know more about politics and how it affected us

[@zeitgeistx5239]

Don’t worry you’re going to get American style healthcare soon as the NHS privatization is in full swing.

[@hilarykirkby4771]

All I had to do was the paperwork for the EU country in which I lived and still do. It wasn't hard to find out what to do and I found my host country very helpful. I am not an expat, I am an emigrée and so are they.

[@Dickie2702]

The realities of Brexit are of no surprise to me but the stupidity of those who voted to leave is something else.

[@MrYorickJenkins]

Patriotism and independence are meaningless to you then and just "stupidity"

[@brimkathstampex2306]

Nothing like the utter stupidity of the idiots who voted to remain shackled to the laws, rules, and regulations of a foreign country. We are more than capable of running our own country thank you very much, and have been doing so for hundreds of years. How do we vote any of these EU officials out of office? What is the precise procedure, and how long would it take? Who are they, what are their names and their jobs? Why does anyone who has worked in any capacity for the EU, lose their pension if they speak out in any way against the EU? Is that called democracy?

[@tuborice4571]

Lmao

[@Jin-Ro]

Which realities? EU in a recession and the UK not?

[@tuborice4571]

@kimjongil6294 still crying over the vote instead of walking to the future and not live in the past. Embrace the half arsed Brexit and make the most of what the UK has to offer. Live life and enjoy.

[@markguest77]

You leave a club you lose the benefits.

[@donaldellis3609]

And now our wonderful "government "as found us a new partnership halfway round the world, who couldn't give a rats arse about us in the UK or our rights. Chuffing wonderful in it.

[@annekathleen4498]

Why on earth would someone living in the EU vote for Brexit. I live in NL and wasn't allowed to vote but if I was I would have voted remain.

[@rodericde876]

So, he had not already registered as a resident in Italy when the UK was a member of the EU as the law stipulated at the time. Now we have left the EU British migrants can no longer get away with flouting the law as they were able to before. He should be complaining about his own stupidity and doing something about that.

[@jackiethomas249]

Well he should be preparing to pack up and go home. Immigration laws apply to him too.