Sir David Davis: It's 'Highly Probable' Lucy Letby Is Innocent

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Sir David Davis says he believes it's 'highly probable' the serial killer nurse, Lucy Letby, is innocent. She is serving a life sentence for the murder of 7 babies & attempted murder of 7 more. Sir David explains why he believes there is 'more than reasonable doubt'.
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@AEKarys
@AEKarys 13 күн бұрын
Why is Susannah dressed like Austin Powers?
@lindalittle1587
@lindalittle1587 13 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@PassiveAgressive319
@PassiveAgressive319 13 күн бұрын
🤣
@Imyerda
@Imyerda 13 күн бұрын
Yeah,Baby ....do i .
@robertcumming9227
@robertcumming9227 13 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@huanjie1628
@huanjie1628 13 күн бұрын
Very shagadelic
@scarlet.pimpernel7
@scarlet.pimpernel7 13 күн бұрын
Can she shut up and let a person whom they invited for an interview to talk?!
@marleneboycie4004
@marleneboycie4004 11 күн бұрын
Thank you she needs to take her ear mic off
@katelewis536
@katelewis536 11 күн бұрын
No she can’t because it is her job to tell the public what they should think.
@scarlet.pimpernel7
@scarlet.pimpernel7 11 күн бұрын
@@katelewis536 😁 good one!
@patrikfloding7985
@patrikfloding7985 11 күн бұрын
No, she can't.
@sparkzy3136
@sparkzy3136 10 күн бұрын
And also not stand on the graves of children at the very start of the interview to completely try and guilt trip him from portraying the opposing view.
@Fireglo
@Fireglo 10 күн бұрын
Her first point makes no sense. How are the family's feelings relevant to this at all? If she's innocent she needs to be released and compensated immediately. The families being upset that they got the wrong person is a separate matter entirely.
@algalgod159
@algalgod159 9 күн бұрын
true. sadly, this how the modern media operates, they believe they are too influential (and they are) and this means any non-urgent or yet-to-be proven truth or benefit of the doubt is often cast aside and lost to their feeling of 'responsibility' which comes with this power vis-a-vis the audience (in this case the families)
@beno1129
@beno1129 8 күн бұрын
Yes it's so annoying that people think that feelings and sentiments matter more than truth and facts. I personally think that Letby is guilty, but if there is cause for probable doubt then it should certainly be investigated. The feelings of the victims' families are beside the point. Letby too has a family after all.
@SuperLeica1
@SuperLeica1 8 күн бұрын
What if Letby is innocent? Do the stricken families really want to lock her up anyway? Doesn't sound reasonable to me!
@tjmarx
@tjmarx 7 күн бұрын
Because she personally is upset that he's raising this. It goes against the narrative she wants to believe. This is why every time he tried to make a point she'd cut him off and change the subject. None of her points made any sense. Courts get things wrong too. So do juries. Innocent point get found guilty every day. Given Davis just wants a review of the trial, nothing he's saying seems unreasonable.
@vampy5071
@vampy5071 Күн бұрын
if she was innocent then why would she write these bizarre sticky notes with scribbles that look straight from an insane asylum, where she literally says "Im evil, I did this"
@simonkendrick12
@simonkendrick12 13 күн бұрын
Jesus christ, if you're gonna interview someone, at least allow them to answer!!! He was about to raise some important points and keeps getting cut off
@martyjakob8611
@martyjakob8611 13 күн бұрын
Yeah he was just about to lie some more.
@annebosworth7048
@annebosworth7048 13 күн бұрын
They only get a certain amount of time for each question... they can't let him waffle on...
@Krytern
@Krytern 13 күн бұрын
David Davis lies about gay marriage. He claims churches are forced to allow the marriages in their church even though that has never happened. He constantly says "the establishment" makes us "what to think that" even though he is a part of the establishment, and it is a fact no church has been forced to. Basically don't trust a single word that man says he is a proven liar it is crazy people still vote him in.
@LH-kr4od
@LH-kr4od 13 күн бұрын
Agreed. It just fuels conspiracy theories when sensible points of view and legitimate questions aren't allowed to be expressed freely.
@adrianwilliams469
@adrianwilliams469 13 күн бұрын
That's the idea of the media cut everybody off when they're talking about justice because sadly what the media says goes.
@benwakefield93
@benwakefield93 13 күн бұрын
How can a court transcript not be free for the public? Its a public court.
@terencefield3204
@terencefield3204 12 күн бұрын
Britain is a close to society in very many ways. This is another one of those ways.
@freshtoast3879
@freshtoast3879 11 күн бұрын
​@@terencefield3204 Expand on your answer, please.
@proudtobeageordie9490
@proudtobeageordie9490 11 күн бұрын
​@@freshtoast3879courts n the justice system is closed to the rich n powerful is a innocent person is sent to jail it can take years and millions of pounds to defend yourself and prove your innocence..... The average person can't afford it
@donnybrasco9330
@donnybrasco9330 11 күн бұрын
I listened to them all on courtroom 2 channel of her being cross examined, she’s guilty as sin
@terencefield3204
@terencefield3204 11 күн бұрын
@@donnybrasco9330 I do doubt that.
@steelcity791
@steelcity791 8 күн бұрын
I now cast huge doubt on anything the establishment tells us is true and factual anymore.
@ser-Ike
@ser-Ike 7 күн бұрын
Only now!? They've been doing this for centuries! PLATOS cave allegory was written 3500 years ago...
@MynameisMick
@MynameisMick 6 күн бұрын
Weird, he is part of the establishment.
@JackBrown-p6i
@JackBrown-p6i 6 күн бұрын
@@steelcity791 keep an open mind
@pjabber5679
@pjabber5679 5 күн бұрын
Ah yes, only now that it's claimed a WOMAN might have been "wrongly convicted", after thousands of years of men being falsely accused and wrongly convicted without any evidence, thrown under the bus by society, no Fs given. Yet whenever a woman's caught, there's always a public outcry making excuses that she must somehow be an innocent little angel.
@gunlokman
@gunlokman 5 күн бұрын
Yes, and especially the court system that has a track-record of protecting the establishment.
@Epilepticchefproductions
@Epilepticchefproductions 12 күн бұрын
If I was a parent of one of those kids, I'd want the right people to be held accountable. It's not far fetched that she could have been used as a scapegoat
@stevenuttley
@stevenuttley 12 күн бұрын
I think most of her accusers genuinely believe what they say. The problem is that more and more problems are emerging re the way the prosecution assembled its evidence. Regarding the table they actually created the evidence. Lucy Letby didn't or couldn't afford to hire statisticians to create her own table but every statistician I've seen says the prosecution table is fatally flawed. Has a single statistician come forward so far to say the stats are impeccable and this is a fuss over nothing? I haven't seen one, they've all said the exact opposite so far.
@jaycearoo
@jaycearoo 12 күн бұрын
True, it's happening to a lot of innocent people and the courts know it, it's happened to me and I wasn't guilty as it happened to a lot of others ...
@terencefield3204
@terencefield3204 12 күн бұрын
As with Bristol some years ago, the condition of the little children was such that the statistical analysis was close to meaningless. There are circumstances where whatever one does tragedy and sadness occurs. Life is like that at the margins.
@jaycearoo
@jaycearoo 11 күн бұрын
@@terencefield3204 Bless...
@Vikt68
@Vikt68 11 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@nicolajohnson1887
@nicolajohnson1887 13 күн бұрын
It's not for me to say if she is guilty or not but the cost of the court documents is rather alarming. We do not live in a free or fair society that's for sure.
@Hali88
@Hali88 9 күн бұрын
Yes and the statistical evidence was possibly misrepresented by the prosecution. Her barrister seemingly didn't try very hard to defend her in court. She may be guilty, but it's clearly not 'beyond all reasonable doubt'.
@catsnmi270
@catsnmi270 8 күн бұрын
Glad to hear you've woken up! And now that Stalin is in control the UK is a Marxist state!
@Kizzalovespugs
@Kizzalovespugs 8 күн бұрын
They don't cost that much don't belive everything you see on tv and media. Crime scene to courtroom youtube channel has some of the court transcripts. There is 3000 hours worth. I suggest people listen to the case in depth if they think she is innocent
@TheAntsNest
@TheAntsNest 8 күн бұрын
Let's be real, after the second baby died in her care she didn't go find another job & when they arrested her another 8 more had kicked the bucket. Had no one arrested her she would still be there standing on a mountain of baby bones ☠
@dougaldouglas8842
@dougaldouglas8842 6 күн бұрын
@@Kizzalovespugs She basically self-confessed her guilt
@djreddy666
@djreddy666 8 күн бұрын
How annoying Suzanna has become, my oh my! She'd be better off screen tbh
@jonathanplastow5220
@jonathanplastow5220 7 күн бұрын
I use to love her...... I can see how totally Shallow she now is....... Basically her job is as a low grade actress. The Media in this Country needs serious Maturing.
@djreddy666
@djreddy666 7 күн бұрын
@@jonathanplastow5220 Same!
@Jenks1888
@Jenks1888 4 күн бұрын
Yep the new Cathy Newman
@deedeedodo8092
@deedeedodo8092 Күн бұрын
​@@jonathanplastow5220 👍👏👏👏
@mhl8396
@mhl8396 11 күн бұрын
This interview exposes Susannah as such a lightweight, and completely unable to conduct an interview about such an in depth and important topic
@rosyapplekitchen635
@rosyapplekitchen635 10 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@JayJay-xd5lm
@JayJay-xd5lm 9 күн бұрын
She rarely says any thing of any any interest . Or ever seems particularly interested . Would work great with Partridge . Dont think its Austin Powers she's cos playing - it's Thatcher (!) .
@hitterandrewpickles4649
@hitterandrewpickles4649 9 күн бұрын
she's just a talking head that reads a script.
@sebluketravis2438
@sebluketravis2438 9 күн бұрын
She is a m1lf that makes me grow
@BabaEsconoir
@BabaEsconoir 9 күн бұрын
But.... but .. but... she wears glasses.
@kurt479
@kurt479 13 күн бұрын
Because the NHS is open, transparent, always admits when it's at fault and always admits when people die needlessly in its care VS one nurse. They'd throw anyone under the bus to protect their own careers.
@sgb6476
@sgb6476 13 күн бұрын
They needed a scapegoat and of course the media wound it all up
@HENNAtabasun1990
@HENNAtabasun1990 13 күн бұрын
@kurt479 they do it every day. They are very well practised at it, They are trained in it .
@pasta8470
@pasta8470 13 күн бұрын
You're 100% correct, and even worse they are politicised. 10 years ago A&E would drop everything for a person with chestpain. Now they will give you paracetemol, treat you like a "conspiracy theorist" and let you have a heart attack, claiming you had an "underlying condition"
@Themystergamerr
@Themystergamerr 13 күн бұрын
If they reported her to the police because they were sued for malpractice, your comment would make sense. However they reported her in an effort to reduce the deaths
@EcoSailor
@EcoSailor 13 күн бұрын
​@@ThemystergamerrThe doctors who went to the police HAD been chastised for unprofessional conduct after Lucy, who was a whistleblower, called out the bullying culture and failings at the unit. They went after Lucy with fake claims and the police took the bait with the help of Evans, who volunteered to get involved even though another judge had dismissed a report he'd submitted in another trial as worthless. Lucy was scapegoated by the doctors and the CoC Trust even warned other staff to not give evidence for the defence or it might harm their careers. Why would they do that if there was nothing to hide?
@i.ehrenfest349
@i.ehrenfest349 9 күн бұрын
In the Netherlands we had a famous case of a nurse being convicted for the same thing. She spent a long time in prison. She was innocent. The state secretary of justice has apologised to her.
@Unintended911
@Unintended911 9 күн бұрын
I think in Italy too there was a similar case
@allanwilson664
@allanwilson664 9 күн бұрын
No two cases are similar.
@i.ehrenfest349
@i.ehrenfest349 9 күн бұрын
@@allanwilson664 No two cases are the same. Many cases are similar. This one certainly was, including ‘evidence’ from her diary where she wrote something like “I’ve done it again, I shouldn’t have” and of course the police took that to mean she was writing about killing babies. She wasn’t.
@RobbieAdamson-yh2wt
@RobbieAdamson-yh2wt 8 күн бұрын
Lucie de Berk. Google the case.
@i.ehrenfest349
@i.ehrenfest349 8 күн бұрын
@@RobbieAdamson-yh2wt Me? I’ve read her book and the book written by the doctor-lawyer duo who got her free after years of work.
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 14 күн бұрын
£100,000 to get a manuscript. Thats censorship.
@phd-1c
@phd-1c 13 күн бұрын
they are lying to get your attention
@hawkesworth1712
@hawkesworth1712 13 күн бұрын
It doesn't cost that much. That was a lie.
@EthanZoid
@EthanZoid 13 күн бұрын
Alleged by him
@Justice4allthewronged
@Justice4allthewronged 13 күн бұрын
@@hawkesworth1712 he did not lie. he clearly says that couldn't be the right price, the woman in the times paid 9000 for half the transcripts.. open your cloth ears
@Dogfacedbloke
@Dogfacedbloke 13 күн бұрын
It would be a fair price for a manuscript (just imagine writing out several hundred thousand pages by hand). A bit costly for a transcript, however.
@christopherstone4069
@christopherstone4069 12 күн бұрын
What is wrong with susaanne? Hes a member of parliament, questioning wether there has been a misscarriage of justice. There hss been lots of miss carriages of justice throughout history, its not as though our justice system is perfect and isnt in need of continual improvement. I would expect mps to investigate. In fact i think it should be their duty to do so. Shes acting as though the court has supreme authority and its foolish to question. This is quite a damgerous technocrat / authoritative mind set.
@Answersonapostcard
@Answersonapostcard 10 күн бұрын
she's a puppet for the elites
@markneedham752
@markneedham752 9 күн бұрын
Hand on hip. Glasses attached. Serious, concerned look. What is it with her. Her mind is closed.
9 күн бұрын
ITV - msm are complicit imo - there are agreed narratives only the brave challenge - safe and effective - net zero - chem trails - etc - imo this was a cover up for NHS
@CHuzz7777
@CHuzz7777 9 күн бұрын
Ahh, well, this is simple. Lucy Letby isn’t part of a minority, she doesn’t have protected characteristics therefore, if she is found guilty it is an unquestionable fact. If Letby was a minority or had protected characteristics Suzanne would be looking at this from a different perspective. I’m not sure British justice has ever truly been blind but equally, I’m not sure it’s ever been more discriminatory and prejudiced. I make no statement on the innocence or guilt of Letby but if MPs and barristers are saying that there is something worth looking at here it should be looked at objectively and impartially. Something which political activism has succeeded in driving out of our society.
@CHuzz7777
@CHuzz7777 9 күн бұрын
Ahh, well, this is simple. Lucy Letby isn’t part of a minority, she doesn’t have protected characteristics therefore, if she is found guilty it is an unquestionable fact. If Letby was a minority or had protected characteristics Suzanne would be looking at this from a different perspective. I’m not sure British justice has ever truly been blind but equally, I’m not sure it’s ever been more discriminatory and prejudiced. I make no statement on the innocence or guilt of Letby but if MPs and barristers are saying that there is something worth looking at here it should be looked at objectively and impartially. Something which political activism has succeeded in driving out of our society.
@The_History_Simp
@The_History_Simp 10 күн бұрын
I work in the NHS and regularly see incidents brushed under the rug. Many patients don't even know when they've had something bad and avoidable happen to them. The culture of cover up must change. Letby was used as a scapegoat.
@frannieo6128
@frannieo6128 9 күн бұрын
The NHS is a chronically corrupt monolith with no accountability It is not fit for purpose and cannot change. The rot is too deep to reform. It needs replaced with a system of social insurance, like the successful model in France. The only party willing to tackle this is Reform.
@Evilunclephilyfn
@Evilunclephilyfn 9 күн бұрын
Oh please
@formulaic78
@formulaic78 9 күн бұрын
@@Evilunclephilyfn I'm not saying the OP is correct in her conclusion, but have you read the New Yorker article?
@pixiewolf01able
@pixiewolf01able 9 күн бұрын
i have said this from the beginning she is a scapegoat for the hosptials and consulatants and the trusts own failings !!
@andymckenzie833
@andymckenzie833 9 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@magenta6754
@magenta6754 13 күн бұрын
There are lots of genuine concerns about this case - 1. Cherry picking of statistics which did not include deaths when Lucy was not present - the jury were duped into believing that Lucy was present at all the baby deaths which is far from true. Statisticians are united in challenging the data the Prosecution presented to the court. 2. Medical experts have spoken up and explained there is no evidence that the babies died from an air embolism. Professor Michael Hall and other neonatal medical experts have seriously questioned this as the cause of death. Yet air embolism was presented as a real cause of death during the trial - again misleading the jury. 3. Reports have come to light showing an outbreak of bacterial infection during the spike of deaths (2015-16). Premature babies, many with open lines would be highly vulnerable to such an infection. 4. Dr Jayaram's evidence has been shown to be incorrect. He testified that he 'virtually caught Lucy Letby red handed' standing over a baby with a dislodged tube. However, door swipe scans now show that at the time Dr J accused Letby of this there was another nurse also in the room. Dr J testified that Letby was alone, but clear evidence shows that she was not. 5. In Lucy's own journal she said 'Why me, I haven't done anything', but this and other innocent sounding comments were ignored by the media. 6. Strangely, no medical experts were called to testify for the defence. So the prosecution went unchallenged on the questionable medical facts they presented to the court.
@khalidacosta7133
@khalidacosta7133 13 күн бұрын
Regardless of whether Letby is innocent or not, there are SEVERE flaws in the criminal justice procedure. It's been obvious for decades and nothing has been done to fix it. The Judges are not impartial as they should be and equal representation is not given.
@cathrynmclean7624
@cathrynmclean7624 13 күн бұрын
And there are hidden extremist working in the nhs that are intent on killing patients for their religion
@missqt48
@missqt48 13 күн бұрын
Baby killer 1 or 14 Still a killer! What’s the point of going to uni and training if you can’t do the job properly.
@lunatigannie8860
@lunatigannie8860 13 күн бұрын
Who say she couldnt do job.. this is the biggest stitch up ever.. from a nhs nurse ​@@missqt48
@denisehill7769
@denisehill7769 13 күн бұрын
@@missqt48 All the training in the world won't help you when you're working in an unsafe environment. And in my view, based on my own experience, the NHS love a scapegoat and do not support whistleblowers, despite what their policies may say.
@captainbuggernut9565
@captainbuggernut9565 11 күн бұрын
If there is any possibility she is innocent, then it needs looking into urgently.
@truehighs7845
@truehighs7845 9 күн бұрын
Yes we must trust the process, if there is an appeal and failsafes we should follow procedure, we mustn't fall for the hype of the case.
@ApnaChoud
@ApnaChoud 9 күн бұрын
Patsy!
@Evilunclephilyfn
@Evilunclephilyfn 9 күн бұрын
Never
@Karl-Benny
@Karl-Benny 9 күн бұрын
@@truehighs7845 And courts and Jurys make Mistakes and prosecutors Lie like devil Himself
@heatherives8646
@heatherives8646 9 күн бұрын
She's evil woman I DON'T BELIEVE she is INNOCENT
@dane4265
@dane4265 11 күн бұрын
the fact that half the children who died were when she was not on duty asks the question what was her defence doing
@CMc-v7z
@CMc-v7z 9 күн бұрын
Apparently one of the doctors held a grudge against her too. She had filed a complaint about his conduct etc.
@fuzzjunky
@fuzzjunky 9 күн бұрын
some of the methods used would not be instantaneous
@dane4265
@dane4265 8 күн бұрын
@@fuzzjunky what methods? insulin and air bubbles as convicted are. can you explain the others?
@footyball66
@footyball66 8 күн бұрын
I am not too knowledgeable about this Letby case.... is the evidence clear that someone has tampered with medical equipment and killed many babies, or could it be that the medical equipment was faulty and the unit was understaffed? as I say, I have not been following the case.
@QTGetomov
@QTGetomov 8 күн бұрын
As a nurse in the NHS I doubt she could afford a robust defence out of her own pocket. Probably the court appointed lawyers who had.what appeared to be a multiple child murderer on their hands. If they themselves didn't believe she was innocent, or even just that they couldn't win, they may not have been playing their A game...
@RRMayes248
@RRMayes248 12 күн бұрын
I am a nurse and take it from me, doctors always make mistakes and us nurses take the flack! also bullying is on every ward. If your face don't fit or you're quiet then you will be bullied. I left the NHS 10 years ago and i don't regret it one bit! I really THINK this girl is innocent, always have done! she needs a fair trail! That hospital was or still is a shambles! FREE LUCY
@janebufton1960
@janebufton1960 12 күн бұрын
I agree with this one. I worked on a ward where I saw 2 qualified nurses forge a blood pressure reading. They made it up because they were pushed for time. I wouldn't have been believed I I told someone, because the ward sister didn't like me and I was indirectly bullied because I was quiet.
@janebufton1960
@janebufton1960 12 күн бұрын
I was a health care assistant.
@jibjub2121
@jibjub2121 12 күн бұрын
Doctors love to blame others for their errors and paint themselves as flawless heroes. Don't forget the worst serial killer in british history was a GP.
@dylanbea8789
@dylanbea8789 12 күн бұрын
Do nurses never mess things up, just doctors??
@siep3417
@siep3417 11 күн бұрын
Wouldn't surprise me at all if she was innocent, wouldn't be the first time a nurse takes the hit for Docs and Management, they always protect themselves first. That's why I don't trust my managers, they give it all this "We will have your back" nonsense but when it hits the fan they'll drop you in it.
@OnlyADownstat
@OnlyADownstat 13 күн бұрын
As soon as this case came up - there were interviews from around the world highlighting where historically the nurse had been wrongly convicted.. Well done Sir David for raising these questions
@voice.of.reason
@voice.of.reason 7 күн бұрын
David Davis is right, but why has he waited until the Tories are out of office to finally speak up? They could have intervened ages ago
@pjabber5679
@pjabber5679 5 күн бұрын
No ones has been wrongly convicted throughout history than men but as usual everyone jumps to her aide when it's a woman, meanwhile men are automatically thrown under the bus, without even any evidence of being guilty of what they were accused.
@catsnmi270
@catsnmi270 8 күн бұрын
Sounds to me that the hospitals need to be investigated!
@maryleslie9102
@maryleslie9102 5 күн бұрын
Peoplefrom the area who have attended that hospital gave the impression that it was chaotic.
@cameronjames3499
@cameronjames3499 2 күн бұрын
You're blaspheming against the Holy NHS. That's minus 50 Social Credit points, and expect the coppers to come kick your door in soon.
@Dragon_Slayer_Ornstein
@Dragon_Slayer_Ornstein 13 күн бұрын
The fact that half the deaths are not accounted for is more than enough to be suspect without anything else.
@neilsmith9799
@neilsmith9799 13 күн бұрын
The deaths were accounted for. Atopsies said natural causes but then the police, who exist to uncover and solve crimes ,became involved along with a discredited "expert".Why did this happen ? Examine some of the recent articles on the subject
@Musicienne-DAB1995
@Musicienne-DAB1995 13 күн бұрын
Were those other deaths deemed suspicious?
@Anja-e9y
@Anja-e9y 12 күн бұрын
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 The babies deemed dying supicious deaths by the police and prosecusion had a post mortem after they died showing 6 of 7 babies died from natural causes, only 1 was seen as uncertain BUT not suspicious. Those other deaths were never included in their statistics.
@topcat5553
@topcat5553 12 күн бұрын
​@@Anja-e9y if that was the case then no court in the land would find her guilty. 12 people got to see ALL the evidence and they found her guilty. You are here spinning conspiracy theories. When the Facts are there in the court docs.
@ClydeSlobbs
@ClydeSlobbs 12 күн бұрын
truth drug or Jeremy Kyles lie detector??
@malicant123
@malicant123 11 күн бұрын
It's possible that she is guilty AND that the NHS is awash with incompetents who are a danger to their patients.
@rosyapplekitchen635
@rosyapplekitchen635 10 күн бұрын
Well they done a lot of silencing anyone who wanted to speak up against her. They are just as guilty
@Buckblacket
@Buckblacket 10 күн бұрын
Incompetence and malevolence are two completely different things. If she WAS guilty, then it's malevolence, not incompetence!
@awinbisa
@awinbisa 10 күн бұрын
Possible, yes. But beyond all reasonable doubt ? It’s a big threshold to achieve.
@asokaselvarajah6922
@asokaselvarajah6922 10 күн бұрын
The NHS IS "awash with incompetents who are a danger to their patients." My late father was a victim of them in my opinion.
@roku1
@roku1 9 күн бұрын
Exactly! David Davis presented a list of options at the end as if they were mutually exclusive. They aren't. I suspect the scenario you have outlined is the correct one.
@helmaeijck4246
@helmaeijck4246 9 күн бұрын
In the Netherlands there was a similar case with Lucia de B. , a nurse who was present at work when 7 unexplainable deaths occurred. She was sentenced to life in prison and tbs (mental teatment to avoid a release). She was convicted on statistics among other things. It was one of the big miscarriages of justice in the Netherlands and she was released and rehabilitated.
@fredphipps9452
@fredphipps9452 13 күн бұрын
Great that Sir David Davis is not just following the mainstream. What's the point of being a people pleaser if the truth is eluded?
@Lightspeedwoosh
@Lightspeedwoosh 13 күн бұрын
Yep the cancel crushers will be quacking in the boots for once!
@Krytern
@Krytern 13 күн бұрын
David Davis lies about gay marriage. He claims churches are forced to allow the marriages in their church even though that has never happened. He constantly says "the establishment" makes us "what to think that" even though he is a part of the establishment, and it is a fact no church has been forced to. Basically don't trust a single word that man says he is a proven liar it is crazy people still vote him in.
@DW-indeed
@DW-indeed 13 күн бұрын
​@@Lightspeedwoosh 🦆
@lotsoflolly47
@lotsoflolly47 12 күн бұрын
She's guilty 100%
@tanialake6994
@tanialake6994 12 күн бұрын
@@lotsoflolly47you don’t know that though. There’s loads of people in jail that are innocent. You know this, or should.
@Jim90117
@Jim90117 13 күн бұрын
The evidence is very dodgy and I won't be suprised if this becomes a massive scandal of a news story in the future.
@Steve-ix2un
@Steve-ix2un 13 күн бұрын
@@Jim90117 Conspiracy, Conspiracy, Conspiracy, ha ha.
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 13 күн бұрын
@@Steve-ix2un it isn’t a conspiracy to say there is no evidence. There isn’t any.
@paultrainor2110
@paultrainor2110 13 күн бұрын
Sir David keeps pushing has a sudden death the conspiracy will sky rocket
@Chezombie
@Chezombie 13 күн бұрын
@@Steve-ix2un Is it a conspiracy to say all those post office workers were also innocent?. Look how long that took, and how many lives were ruined by that case?. This case could well be the same. Imagine being in their position and knowing you did nothing wrong. Some of them even landed up in prison, lost their homes, lost their savings, lost their marriages, lost their children, all for something they did NOT do.
@gonnahavemesomefun
@gonnahavemesomefun 13 күн бұрын
Poor girl if she is innocent. The legal system is not fit for purpose. A life ruined for the sake of a scapegoat.
@easygeezeenlightenment
@easygeezeenlightenment 8 күн бұрын
Susannah and her attitude is the the exact reason people manage to end up found guilty when they're not.
@jonathanplastow5220
@jonathanplastow5220 7 күн бұрын
Very well said.
@84jbd
@84jbd 6 күн бұрын
Writing notes saying 'I killed them' after loads of babies die whenever you're on shift has a stronger effect though... If people can't see Letby's guilt, they simply haven't looked into the case. She kept mementos from every baby she killed in a shoebox in her bedroom!
@BernieRowlands-d4o
@BernieRowlands-d4o 13 күн бұрын
If they want to discuss something as serious as potentially the most serious miscarriage of justice ever they (meaning she) should stop interrupting Mr Davis. Infuriating to watch. Everyone has an opinion on this, but anyone who comments should really look into the case so they have a more informed view. I dont believe she is guilty beyond ALL reasonable doubt.
@steveblundell7766
@steveblundell7766 13 күн бұрын
I hope she doesn't get released, I would worry about her working with babies again. Better to be safe than sorry and keep her locked up
@benayres5908
@benayres5908 13 күн бұрын
@@steveblundell7766 You would lock up nurses who are bad at their jobs?
@steveblundell7766
@steveblundell7766 13 күн бұрын
@@benayres5908 They would have to be a lot worse than "bad at their jobs". But if they had been found guilty of harming multiple babies then I would rather keep them locked up than take a risk and let them out.
@hellomimibanana
@hellomimibanana 13 күн бұрын
@@steveblundell7766ok but then that would make the hospital at fault for not firing her after the first mistake.
@Lightspeedwoosh
@Lightspeedwoosh 13 күн бұрын
To be fair if she was terrible, why was she a nurse. Or is our training of nurses terrible? Was the situation at the hospital badly underfunded and put a vaunrable nurse in situations that she may not have been trained to do? ​@steveblundell7766
@jimoconnor2594
@jimoconnor2594 14 күн бұрын
How many other babies died when she was NOT on shift. How many post office workers were innocent ?
@KS-yv7tw
@KS-yv7tw 14 күн бұрын
More than any previous years. Excessive. There was a report written on why.
@bradleyday5829
@bradleyday5829 14 күн бұрын
​@KS-yv7tw The RCPCH report which basically proved that it was a failing unit. Yet this report was never brought up in court by the defence. You have to ask why?
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 14 күн бұрын
@@KS-yv7tw the Trust was falling apart - many are. And they blamed a nurse. How many post office workers were guilty? This is the UK. You can’t trust the Justice system. Paedos get off, hard working people are put in jail.
@user-zc4yd9ss7h
@user-zc4yd9ss7h 13 күн бұрын
Several did die while she was not on duty. It seems that this was not communicated to the jury at the original trial. One problem with the conviction. Guardia article last month details many doctors who have now come forward to directly state their concerns. That said, I'm not yet ready to believe she is innocent, as her writings and behaviour in the trial were very odd.
@doggieclaude
@doggieclaude 13 күн бұрын
Yep, and for any commenter who has never enjoyed a visit to the Countess of Chester hospital, I'd recommend a stay there before deciding what you think. Best of luck!
@ragnor56
@ragnor56 9 күн бұрын
Unplug this woman !!!!!
@Wishing_you_peace
@Wishing_you_peace 14 күн бұрын
She was bullied, which is common in the NHS. It is not unusual for nurses to be framed for Drs mistakes.
@HENNAtabasun1990
@HENNAtabasun1990 13 күн бұрын
@Wishing_you_peace Dr's and managers' failings , she didn't stand a chance, especially when the jury was gaslighted with one-sided so-called evidence that should have never stood up in court .
@freddymercury2259
@freddymercury2259 13 күн бұрын
Nah, I don't buy it. I saw the interview with the doctor that raised the red flag. It seems like there were genuine concerns about her. Definitely NOT bullying.
@gibbo822
@gibbo822 13 күн бұрын
​@@freddymercury2259but it was years later they did anything because the ward was a disgrace they cleaned up the ward first
@oxymoron5167
@oxymoron5167 13 күн бұрын
She kept a diary
@gibbo822
@gibbo822 13 күн бұрын
@@oxymoron5167 and only select parts were used not the parts where she claimed her innocence
@robcarter55
@robcarter55 13 күн бұрын
I sat on juries for over 2 weeks some years back and it's very strange what is submitted as evidence and what isnt. For instance a case of a girl charged with being involved in the robbery of a taxi driver. She had got the taxi to stop outside some flats to pick something up. She got back in the car and this guy turned up and robbed the taxi driver (he was never identified). Prosecution claimed when the driver tried to drive off she stabbed him in his key hand to stop him. We the jury asked the court a simple question. Did the taxi driver have injuries to his hand. Response was that has not been entered as evidence so we can't tell you. Therefore we had no option than to find her not guilty. The injury to his hand would have convinced us guilty but not submitted as evidence by either side. That alone was sufficient doubt. So a jury trial is not necessarily about who is telling the truth and more about who are the better of worse lawyers .
@proudtobeageordie9490
@proudtobeageordie9490 11 күн бұрын
Well said
@paulconway9757
@paulconway9757 8 күн бұрын
She wrote the notes AFTER she was arrested didn't she.? She was asked to do it by her psychologist..... So those notes should of been irrelevant..
@dougaldouglas8842
@dougaldouglas8842 6 күн бұрын
And the rest in the house?
@adelina1531
@adelina1531 13 күн бұрын
one baby that was declining all night had died 3 minutes into her shift starting and she was blamed for it.
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 13 күн бұрын
Not even the worst example of evidence presented. But yeah. That happened.
@scottaznavourian3720
@scottaznavourian3720 13 күн бұрын
​​@@SuperStella1111she also got blamed for a dioctors incompetence with a ventilator and a doctor and nurse sneezing on a baby...but thst gun for hire turned theae all into 'murders '..that new Yorker article makes it clear she's innocent almost from the beginning
@missqt48
@missqt48 13 күн бұрын
Explain the diary entries and the s/m stalking! 1 baby or 14 babies! She’s a killer and the evidence is all there!
@MaisyK
@MaisyK 13 күн бұрын
What baby was that?
@JesusH.Tap-Dancingchrist7328
@JesusH.Tap-Dancingchrist7328 13 күн бұрын
​@@missqt48Explain her motive
@jasonday7378
@jasonday7378 13 күн бұрын
Suzanna doesn’t have a Scooby about what she’s going on about
@bondeappetite703
@bondeappetite703 10 күн бұрын
She’s so annoying can’t watch her. Just wanted to hear mr Davis
@salmahaaiiss720
@salmahaaiiss720 9 күн бұрын
Can't stand her tbh
@patkafel998
@patkafel998 6 күн бұрын
Rent a Gob
@anthhub
@anthhub 5 күн бұрын
all by design
@Tomherbs
@Tomherbs 10 күн бұрын
David Davis is a smart and open minded guy, he's one the best politicians there has ever been. He held the PSNI to account over journalists rights
@GavDuggan1983
@GavDuggan1983 7 күн бұрын
He was absolutely atrocious as Brexit secretary
@mikewilson8513
@mikewilson8513 7 күн бұрын
Are we talking about the same David Davies ? The same David Davies who told us that Brexit was going to wonderful for the UK. The same David Davies who looked and acted like a complete naive muppet as Brexit secretary ? A quote from David Davis...."There will be no downside to brexit, only a considerable upside" I think we can safely take with a pinch of salt anything that this twerp comes out with.
@louised7829
@louised7829 11 күн бұрын
This country is so corrupt is disgusting
@Mikados_Advark12
@Mikados_Advark12 10 күн бұрын
What an embarrassing comment. What corruption are you talking about? Who is corrupting who? Are you suggesting that brown envelopes were passed to the jury or to the judge? Grow up for goodness sake.
@yvonnelygo681
@yvonnelygo681 10 күн бұрын
Nursing and care sector is so Toxic probably because of cultural factions operating everywhere. You just have to be vigilant because you don't want to be the next scapegoat.
@yvonnelygo681
@yvonnelygo681 10 күн бұрын
​@@Mikados_Advark12..troll.
@Galacticmaster
@Galacticmaster 10 күн бұрын
@@Mikados_Advark12 its called logic - if you actually listen to David Davis, the process of the court is in doubt in reaching the conclusion because there are other variables. basically the case needs more attention and a complete review taking into consideration things happening.
@louised7829
@louised7829 10 күн бұрын
@Mikados_Advark12 Do you work for the justice system or the NHS lol? If you believe that these institutions are beyond corruption have a good word with yourself. Embarrassing lol you're funny
@Supergeologist
@Supergeologist 11 күн бұрын
As retired Registered Nurse (male btw) I can truly imagine the poor girl being stitched up. I left the NHS back in the late 80s and never looked back. I was bullied, harrassed and at one point tried to be stitched up for an appalling incident that happened when I was actually on my days off. It still haunts me and went a long way to destroy my faith in the 'caring' professions. Unfortunately I fell victim to the homosexual, catholic and nepotic cliques that permeated the then NHS. I doubt much has changed.
@yvonnelygo681
@yvonnelygo681 10 күн бұрын
So much wrongful ness taking place. When sπ|t hits fan, they just look for a convenient scapegoat.
@domestinger8805
@domestinger8805 10 күн бұрын
Id love to know more about those cliques you mentioned
@clareowen2047
@clareowen2047 10 күн бұрын
It happens all the time. I think people think that working for a body such as the NHS means that people treat each other well - it’s often not the case - bullying and scapegoating is normal
@MonaLisa-lu8zi
@MonaLisa-lu8zi 9 күн бұрын
Dreadful behaviour. The worst part is there is no independent body to ask for an investigation. Unfortunately if you have the links, the face fits or a support lobby group is embedded inside or outside the org, you can either rise or sínk.
@astev1384
@astev1384 9 күн бұрын
Wasn’t there notes found in her home tho admitting to bad things she’d done.?
@norfolkronin6307
@norfolkronin6307 9 күн бұрын
A few years ago I saw a government figure on how many people are suffering from a miscarriage of justice in the British legal system that are innocent. 17.5%. You cannot have anyone convicted of a crime if they are innocent. So its not that they haven't studied and looked into this before. This is so disturbing for the families involved in this case. Awful. RIP those little infants.
@craftygirl138
@craftygirl138 12 күн бұрын
If she is innocent and released her life is ruined, she would have lost everything while in jail and some folk will still think she's guilty.
@tjfSIM
@tjfSIM 11 күн бұрын
That depends on how conclusively the convictions were overturned, and whether the actual cause of the deaths becomes known. If they were to be overturned purely on the grounds of strength of evidence, ie it's decided there's enough doubt to question the safety of the convictions but no other causal factor is found, then yes she would still be in for a very rough time if released.
@drifter402
@drifter402 10 күн бұрын
@@tjfSIM It depends on how the media reports on it.
@tjfSIM
@tjfSIM 10 күн бұрын
@@drifter402 Well that will be very much determined by the above factors.
@drifter402
@drifter402 10 күн бұрын
@@tjfSIM It's simply whatever narrative they want to paint.
@tjfSIM
@tjfSIM 10 күн бұрын
@@drifter402 That may be true in some cases - depends on the quality of journalism. The level of ambiguity will be the determining factor because uncertainty creates a vacuum that becomes flooded by idle speculation and unfounded theories. What I mean by that is, the most favourable outcome for Letby would be if she was exonerated because the actual cause of the deaths was found to be natural, or caused by another person or factor. That is very unlikely to happen though - much more likely is that a degree of doubt is cast such that the convictions are considered unsafe and quashed. In the latter case, media speculation will be rife and many will still believe she is guilty, because there is no other viable scapegoat.
@olderbutnowiser6701
@olderbutnowiser6701 13 күн бұрын
The Birmingham Six. All you need to know about the British justice system.
@pemj7360
@pemj7360 13 күн бұрын
And Guildford 4
@wirralchap
@wirralchap 13 күн бұрын
Scummy uk justice system
@richardcummins5465
@richardcummins5465 12 күн бұрын
APRIL FABB? GENETTE TATE? Dozens of others ?
@richardcummins5465
@richardcummins5465 12 күн бұрын
British justice overseen by the likes of TWO TEIR STARMER, and CHERYL BLAIR. Laughable 😂😂
@wirralchap
@wirralchap 12 күн бұрын
@@richardcummins5465 Look at the post office scandal under the Tories, innocent people jailed.
@Answersonapostcard
@Answersonapostcard 10 күн бұрын
Susannah is blissfully unaware of the many previous miscarriages of justice. Her opening statement was truly appaling.
@ibrahimarshad1732
@ibrahimarshad1732 13 күн бұрын
I pray to God for the truth and for Justice 😢😢😢
@steveblundell7766
@steveblundell7766 13 күн бұрын
There will never be justice for all those babies in Letby's care that died because nothing can bring them back
@Anja-e9y
@Anja-e9y 12 күн бұрын
@@steveblundell7766 Go away!
@lochnessmunster1189
@lochnessmunster1189 10 күн бұрын
There would be truth and justice in the world if there actually was a god, but there probably isn't one.
@juliamacauley7062
@juliamacauley7062 22 сағат бұрын
Right . God always comes up trumps doesn’t he ?
@allanwilliams1325
@allanwilliams1325 13 күн бұрын
This could be the biggest miscarriage of Justice ever.
@shardans1796
@shardans1796 13 күн бұрын
Explain her diary entries, she's a cold blooded murderer and you are busy defending EVIL....PERIOD!!!
@hb19110
@hb19110 13 күн бұрын
I believe that.
@danieledmunds7678
@danieledmunds7678 13 күн бұрын
Post office scandal has show big cover ups
@marca9955
@marca9955 13 күн бұрын
Could be, except it isn't. The evidence is overwhelming. This is how social media survives - counter-narratives in an attention economy. Don't fall for it.
@robleeuknhl3345
@robleeuknhl3345 13 күн бұрын
@@allanwilliams1325 she is guilty
@pauljamison3340
@pauljamison3340 8 күн бұрын
The prosecution never let the defence know that there were deaths when she was no where near the place!!!! This is the post office all over again!!!!!
@NorthernMonkey2
@NorthernMonkey2 12 күн бұрын
I think Mr Davis is right to question this trial it stinks. It stinks of a cover up . 100k for manuscript is a joke. This is the most unprofessional interview I have seen in years. They should shut up and let the man talk. No one wants to see anybody who is innocent go to prison. I think you should follow the money on this one !
@thomism1016
@thomism1016 13 күн бұрын
There should be CCTV in neonatal units 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 13 күн бұрын
We live in a surveillance society already. No. Let’s just fund trusts properly and staff them.
@iona5439
@iona5439 13 күн бұрын
@@SuperStella1111no we definitely do need cctv.
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 13 күн бұрын
@@iona5439 no, we don’t. We also don’t need police cams. They don’t work, police violence is up.
@Cory-qf5je
@Cory-qf5je 13 күн бұрын
​@SuperStella1111 only people who have something to hide care about that more than children's lives
@Krytern
@Krytern 13 күн бұрын
@@SuperStella1111 Give a single reason why there shouldn't be CCTV where babies are cared for. Just one reason.
@qdis662
@qdis662 8 күн бұрын
Honest question, would we be entertaining the idea that she could be innocent if she wasn't White British?
@Havanacuba1985
@Havanacuba1985 7 күн бұрын
Absolutely , avoiding miscarriages of justice to me is important whoever the defendant may be . Only the most vile would convict based on racial stereotyping . It’s hard for anyone to get a fair trial these days with unbridled speculation & mob mentality on social media . It should be curtailed as it is undermining the British justice system ,the media are bad enough
@esm7708
@esm7708 Күн бұрын
That's a pretty cynical comment
@Alphamind123
@Alphamind123 13 күн бұрын
I thought she was guilty but now it's not so clear . Maybe the nhs has been corrupted
@Thronewatcher
@Thronewatcher 12 күн бұрын
Of course they have it's being sold off bit by bit. You must have seen the private ambulance companies driving about now
@Alphamind123
@Alphamind123 12 күн бұрын
@@Thronewatcher no haven't noticed
@Alphamind123
@Alphamind123 12 күн бұрын
@Thronewatcher nhs was a very good thing about Britain and it's been totally abused. It was fine before covid now suddenly GPS don't want too see people
@youtoob1811
@youtoob1811 12 күн бұрын
She's guilty. Go and read the case against her - it's compelling. This is one of those times where small gaps or inconsistancies are being misinterpreted. The number of deaths were several times the normal - and after she left the frequency of deaths returned to normal - and this was BEFORE she was arrested. Combine all the evidence and to me, it's undeniable, don't let doubt creep in - she did it.
@davidday2039
@davidday2039 12 күн бұрын
@@Thronewatchernhs outsource private ambulances. They work for the NHS, they havnt sold any part of the ambulance service.also private ambulances have always been on the road
@Tomm9y
@Tomm9y 12 күн бұрын
People have no idea how corrupt the legal system is. I commented early on that the evidence in the case was wholly inadequate, circumstantial. This is a very serious case and they still refused an appeal. Now consider the thousands of smaller cases, the violent, perjuring police, the number of cases arising out police interactions. The system, the legislation, funding, the disproportionate impact on people's lives, the concept of 'making an example', 'justice needing to be seen', the vindictiveness particularly against those who stand up for themselves, both during and after cases. People have no idea how biased the system is. The media are completely supportive of the legal system and generate revenue from reporting on cases. Huge credit to David Davis for pursuing this. Letby should be released from prison immediately, whilst all the very well paid hospital managers should be arrested and held on remand instead. Only then, when they are fighting for their freedom, will more facts emerge.
@raskolnikov1461
@raskolnikov1461 10 күн бұрын
You are right
@pauldowney6856
@pauldowney6856 10 күн бұрын
🎯🎯🎯
@dalfifran7572
@dalfifran7572 10 күн бұрын
Eeerrr... Circumstantial evidence doesn't mean inadequate evidence. It could be as strong as direct evidence. Infact many criminal convicted around the world coming from circumstantial evidence.
@singingtutorpro2181
@singingtutorpro2181 10 күн бұрын
They only find out how corrupt it is when they (or someone they love) ends up on the wrong side of the legal system. If this, coupled with the Post Office scandal doesn't wake this dumb country up, I don't know what will.
@cosmosadorabilis7677
@cosmosadorabilis7677 10 күн бұрын
Can you mention which evidences where inadequate?
@viewlesscheese
@viewlesscheese 3 күн бұрын
If there's somebody to blame they'll blame them to avoid the NHS looking bad.
@fish4fun84
@fish4fun84 13 күн бұрын
Poor sue appalled at the idea someone was potentially wrongfully accused?. If it was my kids I want the truth regardless if I lose someone to blame.
@Marek-o3u
@Marek-o3u 13 күн бұрын
Yes, it's a weird take. I guess it's a closure thing. Easier to blame someone. My mum died and I know the hospital let her down. It's a hollow hole but chasing the nurse who was bad seems unlikely to help. Also she was African, so it would be painted as racism of course.
@CairneyGG
@CairneyGG 13 күн бұрын
@@Marek-o3u I also think its a case of where do you draw the line? For example you said the nurse probably shares some of the blame, but then is it the hospital being run badly that has put her in that position? Maybe her superior had a part to play, or their superior? Then is it the governments fault for putting the hospital and therefore the staff in a bad position. The minister of health? The leader of the NHS? I think its human nature to blame but like you said it could be very complicated and mentally draining thinking that way. Sorry for your loss but I'm sure you can be happy thinking of her life and the memories you made together.
@albertothomasx
@albertothomasx 13 күн бұрын
Lucy is innocent. There is something more sinister that may come out from this. Time will tell. But, forgive me, I’ve forgotten the name of the female presenter who seems so clueless. You do know that Lucy was convicted with ZERO EVIDENCE? Like I said, some of us in the truth community know what was really going on, and Lucy has been framed.
@AngusRankin
@AngusRankin 13 күн бұрын
I don't think you understand how reporting works. Regardless of Sue's opinion, her job is to challenge the person being interviewed by putting an opposing view forward. So saying "Poor Sue" is making an assumption based on no evidence of what her beliefs are.
@hellomimibanana
@hellomimibanana 13 күн бұрын
@@AngusRankin I hate when people assume journalists are taking a position when they’re just asking questions that some people may ask.
@OurBackGarden
@OurBackGarden 13 күн бұрын
There comes a time where British courts need to be televised…
@ciaran3629
@ciaran3629 10 күн бұрын
It's currently on trial excuse the pun right now in Northern Ireland the plan is to make all trials viewable by the public via the Internet
@OurBackGarden
@OurBackGarden 10 күн бұрын
@@ciaran3629 that's good to know 👍 so how do we watch them in Ireland?
@Naomi-de2ps
@Naomi-de2ps 10 күн бұрын
Why? Innocent people will have to go through the added trauma of being shamed on live tv, in front of millions.
@OurBackGarden
@OurBackGarden 10 күн бұрын
@@Naomi-de2ps innocent people might like to show the truth. Ever thought about it protecting them? Obv not huh?
@Duncan_1971
@Duncan_1971 9 күн бұрын
@@Naomi-de2ps If they're innocent what do they have to worry about? They'll only be shamed if they're convicted.
@JackBrown-p6i
@JackBrown-p6i 6 күн бұрын
She’s probably is innocent
@donwildmoon6765
@donwildmoon6765 11 күн бұрын
The Austin Powers woman is giving off Cathy Newman vibes. Her mind is closed for business because the judicial system never makes mistakes does it!
@charlesedwards4160
@charlesedwards4160 7 күн бұрын
Her mind is on the cream :)
@tiengangale2585
@tiengangale2585 13 күн бұрын
I feel for the family who lost their children in these cases. I do. On the other hand, justice can not equate to anyone being found guilty. If there is any miniscule chance of the guilty verdict being erroneous, then it should be explored, and I salute Sir David Davis for being curious about this.
@laurenjamesince
@laurenjamesince 13 күн бұрын
Completely agree with this statement. It doesn’t feel that due justice has been delivered here..too many questions still haven’t been answered. It doesn’t feel right
@keithdavison2960
@keithdavison2960 6 күн бұрын
I questioned the evidence and her lawyers strategy it never sat right with me but when I posted that I got truck loads of hate from people who read tabloids and I am no one I can imagine there was a lot of that going around at the time and it’s sad no one had the stones to ask the questions at the time.
@martyndavid2094
@martyndavid2094 13 күн бұрын
Not guilty and it should be obvious to us all, the establishment has always stitched us up Post office scandal all over again
@patpending8134
@patpending8134 11 күн бұрын
Nope.
@gcmt9379
@gcmt9379 9 күн бұрын
​@@patpending8134bet you have done zero research, open a local news article and believe everything. Well done
@hollyh501
@hollyh501 13 күн бұрын
I’m so glad David Davis is pursuing this. I always thought the evidence against her seemed flaky and reading the New Yorker article convinced me she definitely deserved a retrial. British justice is totally flawed to deny her one.
@FlytoColombia
@FlytoColombia 13 күн бұрын
If you're medical, you realise how strong it is. The insulin came from outside the hospital, yes outside. Meaning she brought a lethal drug into work, with the intention of using it on non diabetic infants. That's before you even get into the evidence of the embolisms, and the fact the deaths stopped, and then started again on her shift whilst she was attending to patients. Then disappeared entirely after she was removed.
@bobbyknox9258
@bobbyknox9258 13 күн бұрын
Flaky? Are you serious?
@fionahenderson3352
@fionahenderson3352 13 күн бұрын
​@@FlytoColombiaafter she left, the hospital stopped admitting such extremely sick infants. It downgraded
@FlytoColombia
@FlytoColombia 13 күн бұрын
@@fionahenderson3352 Nope. That's not why. I have worked in a NICU before, babies don't deteriorate like that. What's your excuse that she brought the insulin to work? Go on? Show your utter disdain for the parents of those babies.
@Krytern
@Krytern 13 күн бұрын
David Davis lies about gay marriage. He claims churches are forced to allow the marriages in their church even though that has never happened. He constantly says "the establishment" makes us "what to think that" even though he is a part of the establishment, and it is a fact no church has been forced to. Basically don't trust a single word that man says he is a proven liar it is crazy people still vote him in.
@jay-nl3gk
@jay-nl3gk 5 күн бұрын
Could this be a NHS cover up
@wazz1154
@wazz1154 13 күн бұрын
Since the case of a young mum, Sally Clarke, loosing 2 baby boys to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, going to prison, because a so-called expert used statistics, wrongly, to say that the case of an affluent family's chances of having 2 cot deaths, was 1 chance in 78million, I cannot back this conviction. The young mum i spoke of had her convictions quashed, but heartbreakingly went on to commit suicide when she was finally cleared of all suspicion is such a sad story. Here is hoping that true justice will be done
@matthewfoster1350
@matthewfoster1350 13 күн бұрын
Have you heard of Paula Sims ? She had two girls/ daughters, and she killed them .
@patpat4317
@patpat4317 7 күн бұрын
I remember that story well. Poor Sally had her life ruined by an injustice.
@phillipgriffiths9624
@phillipgriffiths9624 13 күн бұрын
What an awful miscarriage of justice if she is innocent. It won’t be the first time!
@drips1030
@drips1030 10 күн бұрын
Free Lucy Letby 💖
@stevegregson4357
@stevegregson4357 13 күн бұрын
This wasn’t proven beyond reasnable doubt Simple
@LegallyBlondeCritic
@LegallyBlondeCritic 13 күн бұрын
I agree. It sets a dangerous precedent for the civil rights of all British citizens. She should at least have the chance to appeal.
@jaida9254
@jaida9254 13 күн бұрын
@@LegallyBlondeCritic No it doesn't. Each case is heard on it's own merits. We had miscarriages of justice in the old days of no forensic evidence and before the CPS was set up but our criminal courts only improved and developed with time. It didn't set any precedents.
@Chezombie
@Chezombie 13 күн бұрын
Beyond reasonable doubt usually consists of steadfast forensic evidence like finding the suspect's DNA or fingerprints at the scene of a crime or CCTV footage which clearly shows their face while they are committing the crime, all the evidence here was circumstantial. It's pretty rare to get a conviction of this magnitude on circumstantial evidence alone. This smacks of people in high up places (NHS bosses) pulling strings, trying to pass the book for their failings, and the government's failings.
@Shontaku
@Shontaku 13 күн бұрын
You have no idea what you are talking about.
@bobbyknox9258
@bobbyknox9258 13 күн бұрын
So somebody else killed them then? Is that what you're saying?
@joemensah9557
@joemensah9557 12 күн бұрын
IM NOT A TORY BUT DAVID DAVIS IS ONE OF A FEW HONEST REMAINING POLITICIANS IN THE UK.
@janetchisholm7020
@janetchisholm7020 10 күн бұрын
David Davis…..is a good man.
@daniela5945
@daniela5945 13 күн бұрын
Her "confession" post it notes have been well analysed and make much more sense as an outpouring of anguish and despair and not a confession. To ignore difficult questions about statistics, doctor training, cleanliness at the ward, complex causes of death, and instead to leap on a nurse's scrawled journaling is not surprising given the circumstances. But from what I read she was a dedicated nurse who volunteered for extra shifts and that explains her presence there. None of her colleagues think she did it and for days and days on trial she gave hours of testimony answering openly every question put to her.
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 11 күн бұрын
Extremely well said.
@harpsailorharp6716gg
@harpsailorharp6716gg 10 күн бұрын
she said she *couldn't recall on many many many questions actually
@rosyapplekitchen635
@rosyapplekitchen635 10 күн бұрын
Don’t you think she wrote them knowing they would be found? Just wondering
@jponeill2151
@jponeill2151 10 күн бұрын
Shezwas also advised by her mental health counsellor to write down the random thoughts she was having as a form of therapy. At the time when she knew people were blaming her.
@zbigniewczaykowski514
@zbigniewczaykowski514 9 күн бұрын
@@jponeill2151 Those notes are random scribbles that can be interpreted many ways, they are about as vague and useful as Nostradamuses useless predictions.
@Peter-oz8ec
@Peter-oz8ec 13 күн бұрын
Take it from me , the police ,cps and judge and juries sometimes get it wrong. THAT IS A FACT.
@Ruloathesome
@Ruloathesome 13 күн бұрын
Yes but rarely evidence informs police police decide if they have a case CPS review and make a decision Judge will decide if case can proceed to a verdict and can make a terminatory ruling before trial. But agreed a jury an make a wrong decision based on personal feeling.
@CatFluff-pm6qr
@CatFluff-pm6qr 13 күн бұрын
Not in this case, she's evil she even said it herself.
@Peter-oz8ec
@Peter-oz8ec 13 күн бұрын
@@CatFluff-pm6qr I’m not being judge and jury at all. In a situation such as this sometimes , very rare occasions I stress an accused can have it put in their head that they are guilty and such is the the ordeal that they’re experiencing they end up actually believing that they’re guilty . I know this for a fact. I’m not siding with the person in question whatsoever , I was just stating a fact. Anyhow let’s wait and see.
@michaelsrowland
@michaelsrowland 13 күн бұрын
Often get it wrong. 2 tier police 2 tier judicial
@PeaceMatters5
@PeaceMatters5 13 күн бұрын
What about the diary entries her admitting she's evil?
@Moazz786
@Moazz786 6 күн бұрын
It’s easier to put blame of a young nurse than admit the hospital is failing. She is protesting her innocence and all the people close to her are standing by her.
@arkskotch1589
@arkskotch1589 13 күн бұрын
Very dodgy her conviction
@patpending8134
@patpending8134 11 күн бұрын
I'm sure you're four words decide the matter.
@C0llyhurst
@C0llyhurst 11 күн бұрын
Far too much evidence to convict her, did you watch the same trial?
@silondon9010
@silondon9010 10 күн бұрын
​@@C0llyhurstyou really need to study the case
@WhatwouldRoddyPiperdo
@WhatwouldRoddyPiperdo 8 күн бұрын
What about the psychotic ramblings found all over her house let me guess NHS planted those in her home?​@@silondon9010
@stevegregson4357
@stevegregson4357 13 күн бұрын
Innocent or not the trial was a sham and CPS were incompetent and her defence were negligent Convicted on circumstantial and incorrect directions from the judge It will fall for sure
@zbigniewczaykowski514
@zbigniewczaykowski514 9 күн бұрын
Judges should not be allowed to give directions or instructions, the jury should come to its conclusion without any interference, even from the judge.
@RickBerman-iv2il
@RickBerman-iv2il 8 күн бұрын
So, the judge, prosecution, defence (and, as there’s been 2 appeals) Appeals judges too were all incompetent. As opposed to one person being a psychopath? You see evil everywhere but, oddly, not with this nurse.
@voice.of.reason
@voice.of.reason 7 күн бұрын
If they can lock up a fine upstanding wife of a Tory MP for saying a few things on the internet but let murderers and rapists go free from jail then that tells you how corrupt the UK has become
@user-xd7dk3oy3q
@user-xd7dk3oy3q 8 күн бұрын
I saw no conclusive evidence that would mean that there was reasonable doubt! I don’t believe that the evidence was strong enough for a conviction, I have no idea if she is guilty or not? The hospital was underfunded, couldn’t even supply one on one care for ICU patients? If I were a parent I’d suing the hospital.
@leonhughes134
@leonhughes134 12 күн бұрын
This interviewer acts like there has never been a miscarriage of justice !
@Nickmedium
@Nickmedium 13 күн бұрын
Had my doubts about this case, hopefully will be looked into more intensely.
@mickeyn757
@mickeyn757 Күн бұрын
If she was black you would have been certain, because she's not then she must be innocent
@Nickmedium
@Nickmedium 18 сағат бұрын
@@mickeyn757 please don't play the race card its irrelevant.
@daisyl2629
@daisyl2629 6 күн бұрын
Davis told us to believe in Brexit, and now he wants us to believe in Letby?
@rossi6113
@rossi6113 9 күн бұрын
Reid... "I put it to you again....." Just who does she think she is at all????????
@karenfowley5703
@karenfowley5703 2 күн бұрын
Always been full of her own self-importance
@therivalryan
@therivalryan 11 күн бұрын
Why doesn't this woman in blue let him answer questions, pretty sure he understand law and procedure more than this presenter 🤦‍♂
@sbeast64
@sbeast64 13 күн бұрын
More people seem to be doubting the verdict. There's also very similar cases which turned out to be miscarriages of justice, such as Lucia de Berk. Either way, I hope the truth is discovered and there is justice either way.
@hb19110
@hb19110 13 күн бұрын
Exactly.
@Musicienne-DAB1995
@Musicienne-DAB1995 13 күн бұрын
But there are also similar cases where the accused was found guilty, including Beverly Allit, who was found guilty of murdering babies using insulin and in one case, air embolus. Does any of the following sound familiar? ' It was only following the death of Becky Phillips that medical staff became suspicious of the number of cardiac arrests on the children's ward and police were called in.[12] It was found that Allitt was the only nurse on duty for all the attacks on the children and had access to the drugs used.' [Source: Wikipedia]
@mauricehawkins1278
@mauricehawkins1278 9 күн бұрын
Sir David is right to raise concerns
@fatherchristmas2998
@fatherchristmas2998 8 күн бұрын
Remembered the defence lawyer in the birming 6 case she was snooping around in the evidence offices and there was a box. Not to be shown to the defence. The powers that be knew the birmingham six were innocent
@mikejackson459
@mikejackson459 8 күн бұрын
There have been so many miscarriages for justice that David Davis is quite right to pursue this. Keep going, Sir.
@dougaldouglas8842
@dougaldouglas8842 6 күн бұрын
Without the body of evidence, just tinkering round the sides
@connorlynch1992
@connorlynch1992 10 күн бұрын
Susannah is very patronising interviewer..
@petermontgomery85
@petermontgomery85 9 күн бұрын
Why didn't she allowing him to explain without butting in.
@BumberClarke
@BumberClarke 13 күн бұрын
The evidence is all circumstantial. The notes could mean many things which were not really speculated but the parts that were damming evidence in the prosecutions view. Could these deaths be the fault of people above doctors and consultants gaslighting their failures upon the nurses? Prosecutions case was poor I see her being released and sueing everyone tbh
@steveblundell7766
@steveblundell7766 13 күн бұрын
It's almost impossible for an innocent person to be suspected of the crimes she was investigated for, let alone arrested, charged and found guilty (by 2 juries and 3 appeal court judges). Could you imagine ever being suspected of doing what she was accused of, even if it was just _one_ baby? It was her job to care for and save these babies, yet there is zero evidence that was what she was doing, she has no defence against these awful accusations at all
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 13 күн бұрын
@@steveblundell7766 the post office officials who had their lines destroyed say hi!
@Bfg12327
@Bfg12327 13 күн бұрын
@@SuperStella1111- thank you for sharing your ball shirt thoughts on. I feel more informed This “nurse” had multiple consultants raise flags around and was found to be consistently at the instigate of this poor tragedy. Yeah, you want to equate this to a Siemens computers system about 20 years ago . You go girls!
@environm3ntalist549
@environm3ntalist549 13 күн бұрын
​@@SuperStella1111you need to change your username to silly sausage stella
@Musicienne-DAB1995
@Musicienne-DAB1995 13 күн бұрын
@@SuperStella1111 The post office scandal, while utterly reprehensible, is not proof that Lucy Letby's convictions were mistaken.
@beckee6282
@beckee6282 8 күн бұрын
Honestly, I believe it. Especially coming from a hospital. People don’t realize how shady these industries are. This happens in all professions. It happened to me as a teenager working in retail. A lazy co-worker blamed me, a new employee, for his mistakes and I was let go without proper investigation. I’m still angry over it. People get scapegoated all the time and it’s hard to prove your innocence when you’re working with corrupt people. My mother’s a nurse as it’s happened to her before multiple times. Corrupt doctors like to blame the nurses for their mistakes. The medical industry attracts a lot of sociopaths and abusers
@kaywalker4433
@kaywalker4433 6 күн бұрын
will anyone be held accountable for this total miscarriage of our injustice system.
@Vesper.-zh6sj
@Vesper.-zh6sj 13 күн бұрын
I think a whole new lndependant inquiry is required ..Her conviction is clearly unsound .
@englishciderlover7347
@englishciderlover7347 11 күн бұрын
If the people involved in the inquiry are public employees, it will be anything but independent, Someone in Westminster or Whitehall will tell them what to put in the report, and they'll fulfil the brief to a T.
@tomhorrid
@tomhorrid 13 күн бұрын
Read the New Yorker article. This could well be one of Britain's biggest ever legal scandals
@Marek-o3u
@Marek-o3u 13 күн бұрын
Depending on how it goes, the current batch of social media posters imprisonments could follow close behind. In terms of scandal, at least.
@Caz_2087
@Caz_2087 13 күн бұрын
Bit hard to do that when it's blocked from being available in the UK
@tomhorrid
@tomhorrid 13 күн бұрын
@@Caz_2087 hard but far from impossible. I found it pretty easily and made for startling reading tbh. Private Eye also doing a lot of great reporting about it
@richtiff
@richtiff 13 күн бұрын
​@Caz_2087 does a VPN help with that at all? Haven't tried it myself but thought it might be worth a go if blocked through a UK-based IP address?
@kurt479
@kurt479 13 күн бұрын
@@Caz_2087Exactly - WHY is it blocked. What is there to hide exactly. Everyone knows when things are blocked, it's because they don't want the truth to be uncovered.
@LolG-lq1he
@LolG-lq1he 4 күн бұрын
Only 14 incidents were nitpicked by police to fit into their narrative that LL was always on shift. When reality is, there were more deaths in that time period where she was not on shift. That in itself provides reasonable doubt. The jury didn’t want to take a chance on letting a baby killer walk free, they were never going to say not guilty. The second trial was always going to be guilty after she’d already been found guilty a year before I’m not saying she is 100% innocent, but I really do think there’s more than reasonable doubt, therefore she needs to be freed
@titititi8928
@titititi8928 13 күн бұрын
This is sad and scary at the same time
@Ryanjoned163
@Ryanjoned163 14 күн бұрын
I sometimes stand in the airing cupboard and pretend to be a towel
@Goozo612
@Goozo612 13 күн бұрын
🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂🥳🥳🥳🥳👲🏼
@philholding6905
@philholding6905 13 күн бұрын
That makes two of us!🙄
@mariewalmsley6143
@mariewalmsley6143 13 күн бұрын
No you dont.
@Indiekiwi
@Indiekiwi 13 күн бұрын
What kind of towel?
@kernowarty
@kernowarty 13 күн бұрын
I sometimes hide in the loft and shout "Kengis Khan" in a Scottish accent.
@liliastennant1074
@liliastennant1074 9 күн бұрын
I am just a common housewife. But I have always thought this girl was innocent
@petelucehypnotherapy
@petelucehypnotherapy 9 күн бұрын
Does that woman imagine that there are no wrongful convictions in this country? Some people have done over 20 years time following wrongful convictions. Respect to David Davies, I've never voted Conservative but he shows that there are good people in all parties.
@fusionfan6883
@fusionfan6883 13 күн бұрын
Davis needs to pull together the most senior experts who have contacted him and produce a persuasive legal brief to present to the Criminal Appeals Review Board. The other strategy, which he is well aware of, is to keep pressure in via the media.
@rodgerbolton3
@rodgerbolton3 9 күн бұрын
She’s not very independent in her views ! Suzanne is not open to other ideas and explanations and just wants to shut Davis down .
@KennySeniorExplores
@KennySeniorExplores 9 күн бұрын
She wouldve probably gotten away with it of she didnt keep a diary full of confessions
@Daria_Es
@Daria_Es 8 күн бұрын
She never made an entry where she writes that she killed the children. She only wrote about the guilt she had brought upon herself and that she was evil. I hardly know anyone who hasn't thought or written something like that about themselves at some point in their life. There is nothing to suggest what she meant by “guilt”. So no knowledge, just assumption. An assumption is not proof and should not be enough to lock someone up for life.
@kierandoran8196
@kierandoran8196 8 күн бұрын
That is incorrect. You are just shooting you mouth off. She never admits anything in her diary.
@patpat4317
@patpat4317 7 күн бұрын
It wasn’t a confession. Her case worker/therapist told her to write down her feelings. As everyone was blaming her she had doubts about her ability and thought she must be at fault. Try and get hold of the article in the Newyorker. It’s available online, you just need to dig for it. You’ll then realise why it’s been banned in the UK.
@ianmatthews7385
@ianmatthews7385 2 күн бұрын
@@patpat4317 yea it's not just the diary though. She was found looking over babies who had gone into critical states and she hadn't started any procedures to save that baby's life. She was very closely monitored by the other staff due to these coincidences. Management wanted to be careful and her colleagues were the whistleblowers. It's a tough situation and I think the colleagues did the right thing. They know and have all the information to make the call.
@mrmac7449
@mrmac7449 9 күн бұрын
This poor girl!! It is clear that this was a full unfair trial -i have believed this and have great empathy for Lucy Lettby... Lets hope that she keeps strong and the truth will be told and the corruption which got her freedom taken away, all are made to pay! LETS LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE IN A BALANCED REALISTIC AND NON BIAS WAY!
@MCPC2891
@MCPC2891 8 күн бұрын
About time the corrupt justice system gets reviewed. But 100% it’s not about her it’s about the system!!!
@SolasMacha
@SolasMacha 8 күн бұрын
The Birmingham 6, the Guildford 4, the Maguire 7, Barry George, Andrew Malkinsin, Victor Nealon and Sam Hallam. Stefan Kiszko , post office scandal, a big endless list and the reporters won’t let him speak.
@tinaharding5613
@tinaharding5613 12 күн бұрын
I watched the documentary about this and then read some articles and it seems very obvious that this lady is innocent
@qedd722
@qedd722 12 күн бұрын
true there American doctor specialist saying on the document about this and this is what this man mentioned about this as well he definitely saying that she's innocent
@proudtobeageordie9490
@proudtobeageordie9490 11 күн бұрын
​@@qedd722the fact is someone's opinion isn't evidence that will stand up in a court of law
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