British museums respresent everything that we should recognise as inappropriate, says Karma Gad 3/6

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17 күн бұрын

Karma Gad, Mansfield College, speaks in proposition of the motion that This House Believes British Museums Are Not Very British.
This is the third speech of six.
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@nomadicanoopwalker1579
@nomadicanoopwalker1579 3 күн бұрын
Script reading speech basically used in non English speaking countries... 😂😂
@MenteCuriosa7255
@MenteCuriosa7255 11 күн бұрын
British museum ❌ Chor Bazaar ✅
@anton_398
@anton_398 3 күн бұрын
Ahaha cry more, how Brits slaved indians.😭😭
@Uns4rmLhr
@Uns4rmLhr 3 күн бұрын
😂
@TheChintu-il3sq
@TheChintu-il3sq 13 күн бұрын
In india we call them "Chor Bazar" literally means thieves market!
@manuelmanzanero5057
@manuelmanzanero5057 8 күн бұрын
Interesting. In Spain there are gypsyisms (words taken and adapted from the Caló lexicon) with that same root chor- such as chorear, choricear (to steal) and chorizo ​​(thief).
@raxas7378
@raxas7378 8 күн бұрын
If the Young Lady were to make a similar statement in India, she would be asked to immigrate back to Egypt.
@youssef-lz8fj
@youssef-lz8fj 7 күн бұрын
@@raxas7378 and that would be against freedom of speach, which is sacred to investigate the truth. If she is on the wrong, correct her with facts and teach her how to think.
@raxas7378
@raxas7378 7 күн бұрын
@@youssef-lz8fj Freedom of expression is the keystone of modern democracy. That includes facts, and opinions held. She Is entitled to her opinion too . That is formed by fact and gut feel.
@anton_398
@anton_398 3 күн бұрын
Ahaha cry more, how Brits slaved indians.
@jophy02
@jophy02 12 күн бұрын
British museums: where we showcase our remarkable talent for borrowing things and forgetting to return them... for centuries!
@jakesabean
@jakesabean 12 күн бұрын
@@jophy02 buying something or being offered something in a treaty agreement is not “borrowing” it. Have any examples of something we borrowed and didn’t give back?
@RukshanJ
@RukshanJ 10 күн бұрын
I've heard that bulk of manuscripts that contained ancient knowledge of srilanka are also in British museums
@aa6eheia156
@aa6eheia156 10 күн бұрын
​@@RukshanJ having some artifacts in such world renowned museums are important for everlasting preservation of one's identity and heritage. I'm from Nepal and I'm thankful that many of our artifacts are safe in foreign museums with credits and proper descriptions. Countless artifacts, temples were destroyed in Nepal during 2015 earthquake so if those artifacts in those museums were in Nepal, there could've been huge probability that these artifacts got destroyed, buried and turned to ruins
@user-bz8qe1lu2l
@user-bz8qe1lu2l 9 күн бұрын
@@aa6eheia156 Ridiculous. All evils can be justified and rationalized by your way of thinking.
@youssef-lz8fj
@youssef-lz8fj 7 күн бұрын
@@user-bz8qe1lu2l if it does, then it is not evil, and then you should investigate if your labeling is a miss-conseption or a lie.
@ftftyffghfvghfcht6701
@ftftyffghfvghfcht6701 13 күн бұрын
when the french discovered the Rosetta Stone it was being used as a rock in a fort. this cant be the best and brightest.
@kaartheikgeiyan6004
@kaartheikgeiyan6004 7 күн бұрын
They are the brightest within the system cultivated. Malaysia has our fair share.
@user-kb8bf2mi9w
@user-kb8bf2mi9w 10 күн бұрын
It's endless - why don't the Egyptians compensate the slave nations they had? (And they had)
@bluesque9687
@bluesque9687 7 күн бұрын
lol! shift the guilt!!
@katnightingale2451
@katnightingale2451 3 күн бұрын
that would be a lot of muslims sending money to jews lmfao. boy, would they hate that lol
@animesh7296
@animesh7296 8 сағат бұрын
Yes, go ask the Egyptian.
@nessuno3048
@nessuno3048 11 күн бұрын
To Britons: defend your country and your culture, please. In Italy, we lost a lot of artworks and we never say that we are in crisis due to foreign invasions. In historical times, crime are committed, including lootings. The law applies in a limited way and cannot go back in time for centuries. Every country, including European ones, was a victim of another country. It is crazy the idea to treat past historical events as today crimes.
@nrb1989
@nrb1989 10 күн бұрын
Agreed THEYRE OWN CULTURE. Not other people's.
@nessuno3048
@nessuno3048 9 күн бұрын
@@nrb1989 Objects which were included in museum collections in historical times are part of the country's culture. According to your rule, Italians should take back a massive quantity of artworks, but I suspect that your rule is applied only to what you consider minority. It is the classical double standard of the Left. A Prehistoric plate from my region is now at a Russian museum, for example. This is how things work. Even if Italy is a Western country, so it cannot be oppressed, in your/their biased view. It is cultural marxist policy, which finds the today minority to fight for.
@_Rishabh_honeybadger
@_Rishabh_honeybadger 4 күн бұрын
@@nessuno3048 I see your point but a cultural artefact is something that the common man in that country relates to but I don't think British people have any belongingness or knowledge of that artefact for ex sculpture of many gods and goddesses from India....and I am not talking just of names , there are so many more like these from different countries .
@nessuno3048
@nessuno3048 4 күн бұрын
@@_Rishabh_honeybadger The common man does not even know his own culture.
@AdityaRaj-ru9br
@AdityaRaj-ru9br 2 күн бұрын
So you are saying all countries who want their items back should attack Britain in order to get that back ??
@marcofreeman2669
@marcofreeman2669 8 күн бұрын
Don’t forget that mummies and a large number of cultural relics from that era were auctioned off by tomb robbers and traders on the streets, and the mummies were left exposed under the scorching sun. If the cultural relics were to be returned, would the Egyptian government return power to the indigenous Africans?
@danielwhyatt3278
@danielwhyatt3278 13 күн бұрын
This was a very sad speech to see here. Missing sooo much context. Let alone the fact that we don’t get to actually hear the argument for the opposition.
@nrb1989
@nrb1989 10 күн бұрын
Yeah you do. Just watch the 5 other videos.
@legendsneverdie3186
@legendsneverdie3186 16 күн бұрын
a propos of imperialism, modern egyptians speak arabic and are muslims as a result of arab imperialism
@Rkenton48
@Rkenton48 15 күн бұрын
Too bad they'll never admit that Islam is a colonizing, invasive, propaganda spreading, and violently bloody empire just like every other human civilization that has ever existed since cavemen first started evicting Bears from their caves with sharp sticks and rocks.
@Cardiologyforever
@Cardiologyforever 14 күн бұрын
Culture is much more than just language and religion. Switzerland official languages are French, German, Italian and their own language. Does that make them any of the mentioned nationalities? An easier example, are Americans considered English because they speak English? Egyptian civilisation and culture is much more than that, something maybe beyond your comprehension. Islam is a religion, Egyptians can be Christians ( More than 15% of the population) or atheists or anything, they would still be Egyptians.
@abuminnatur-rahman4198
@abuminnatur-rahman4198 13 күн бұрын
​@@CardiologyforeverChristians are less than 10% in Egypt.
@nirwana07
@nirwana07 13 күн бұрын
@@Cardiologyforever islam is most succesful imperialism.... how does egypt become arabic and islam?
@harry..flashman
@harry..flashman Күн бұрын
​@@abuminnatur-rahman4198so its the muslims exclusively responsible for the female mutilation fgm in egypt? its 80% there, the only place similar is somalia. why do they do that to their children in Egypt?
@sabinahribarternar7502
@sabinahribarternar7502 9 күн бұрын
Oh please, have any of you actually BEEN to any museums in Egypt? Let’s talk Kairo for example - their idea of “protecting and preserving historical artifacts” is two sticks and a string between them, to “prevent” people from getting close. You can literally CLIMB INTO a sarcophagus or touch a mummy and noone bats an eye. You can climb all over the pillars and ancient buildings, scratch the hieroglyphes while “looking” at them etc. The speaker is clearly a beautiful and bright girl, but needs to grow up and face reality. Egyptians aren’t capable or interested in preserving historical artefacts, so it’s better for more developed countries to have taken them, otherwise in 100 years there will be no more of them to see, and the pyramids would be turned to cheap hotels.
@tresojos
@tresojos Сағат бұрын
its so painful to watch the state the museums are in over there.... Horrible
@muhammadshadab5561
@muhammadshadab5561 16 күн бұрын
Ladies and gentleman I'm reading the script here 😂
@KrishnaKumar-ci2um
@KrishnaKumar-ci2um 15 күн бұрын
Student ❓🤡 Translator 🥳👻
@explorerelka
@explorerelka 11 күн бұрын
I feel the same about Indian subcontinent artefacts in the British Museum too. But when looking at the way Museums are run here by ignorant bureaucrats who treat tit like any other posting, next to zero funding and add to that politicisation of of cultural heritage; I do have to admit that they have a better chance of being preserved for posterity in foreign Institutions.
@kaartheikgeiyan6004
@kaartheikgeiyan6004 14 күн бұрын
Reminiscent of my sister's generation. And no, I'm not from India. I'm from another Commonwealth nation not as well-represented in the museum; Malaysia.
@Rkenton48
@Rkenton48 16 күн бұрын
We have our first deportee!
@VincenzoInfi
@VincenzoInfi 16 күн бұрын
I know, right on cue! 😂
@cyb-m
@cyb-m 14 күн бұрын
those artifacts are not british either. they belong in their lands of origin. to be seen by the descendants of those civilizations.
@user-vc9vw7pj3j
@user-vc9vw7pj3j 14 күн бұрын
What about the pot holes in Blackburn Lancashire!
@agDRAGONMAN001
@agDRAGONMAN001 14 күн бұрын
@@cyb-m We bought and traded them fair and square. And others we won via conquest.
@cyb-m
@cyb-m 14 күн бұрын
@@agDRAGONMAN001 none of them was bought. it was all stolen. you just admitted to be a country of theives.
@g.cchaudhary22
@g.cchaudhary22 10 күн бұрын
British royal navy was basically the biggest pirate crew..no wonder they looted so much wealth 😂
@charananekibalijaun8837
@charananekibalijaun8837 3 күн бұрын
Yeah, right.... Indian WhatsApp university?
@CandysTORE-s1y
@CandysTORE-s1y Күн бұрын
@@charananekibalijaun8837 Lol , the utter stupidity you have and the amount of ignorance in you , is beaming out like a shooting star . Bruh , its facts . That the britz did loot us . And this was aided by the navy . There were no damm airplanes which could carry tons back then . How is this whats app university ? Seems like your the one from those .
@harry..flashman
@harry..flashman Күн бұрын
It abolished slavery, also British Empire abolished indians burning their widows.
@g.cchaudhary22
@g.cchaudhary22 Күн бұрын
@@harry..flashman British empire abolished slavery?? 🤣🤣Are you learning your history from islamic Madarssa? No wonder Britain has become a muslim country
@c4call
@c4call 5 сағат бұрын
She identifies herself as "egyptian-british". If she can identify as british, why cant anyone identify the objects in the museums as british as well?
@juan-carlosgonzalez3738
@juan-carlosgonzalez3738 16 күн бұрын
What about the natural history type specimens? Majority of the species described from Asia have holotypes deposited in the natural history museum, which most Asians are unable to access.
@voalex5165
@voalex5165 4 күн бұрын
Delusional to think that people should give back the spoils of war
@jpa435
@jpa435 5 сағат бұрын
The only reason these artifacts are still in existence today and not destroyed by all those 14th century third world throwbacks is because of the British and other European countries having the four site to take these precious artifacts out of an unstable regions of the world and bring them to more stable countries where they could be enjoyed for centuries to come.
@andreeaalexandru7811
@andreeaalexandru7811 2 күн бұрын
This is so disgusting. Lets change the history.
@RasEthiopia.
@RasEthiopia. 8 күн бұрын
THE BRITISH MUSEUM IS A REMINDER OF COLONISATION BUT IT IS ALSO THE HISTORY OF GLOBALISATION.
@solb101
@solb101 5 күн бұрын
If this is the best of the Oxford crop we are doomed. You wouldn’t have Egyptian antiquities if it wasn’t for the scholarship and industry of the British. Their current value consists of their establishment in the British Museum. Please don’t forget that Egypt had an empire too, yet perhaps they were too arrogant or ignorant to recognise the value of studying and preserving other cultures for the benefit of mankind.
@bereldovlerner5557
@bereldovlerner5557 9 күн бұрын
When did the current inhabitants of Egypt (excluding, perhaps, the Copts) begin identifying with the ancient Egyptian civilization?
@user-vc9vw7pj3j
@user-vc9vw7pj3j 14 күн бұрын
They taught you a lot of rubbish!
@Cardiologyforever
@Cardiologyforever 14 күн бұрын
She is eloquent and she has interesting and valid points, would be great to see the whole debate.
@veteranclips6950
@veteranclips6950 8 күн бұрын
The Rosetta Stone was a war battle with the France & every museum in world have art or items from history
@hi.kingharry
@hi.kingharry 12 күн бұрын
give it back to Mo Salah
@tresojos
@tresojos Сағат бұрын
Leave the country slump! If the countries of origin cared even a tiny bit about their art back in the days, it would not be in the British Museum now. End of discussion. Goodbye.
@roniberahaquartet477
@roniberahaquartet477 7 күн бұрын
Something missing ,she is talking about the civilisation of ancient Egypt that was extinct .Apropriation of culture is on also in Arabic Egypt of today .
@crazytrain639
@crazytrain639 6 күн бұрын
to quote the Texas flag..."Come and take it"
@radwakareem8047
@radwakareem8047 14 күн бұрын
I'm really surprised how brave you are to say this words and defend your historical heritage, you did an amazing job little lady 👏
@emanmoustafa7452
@emanmoustafa7452 14 күн бұрын
Great presenter 👍👌👏 you did your homework and it turned out into this excellent speech, great work
@Kameranium
@Kameranium 15 күн бұрын
God, the fact that I know her makes this 10x worse lmao Edit: Makes the comments 10x worse, not the video.
@meeshabenefer9787
@meeshabenefer9787 15 күн бұрын
I think your pfp being a duck is a bigger issue broski
@Kameranium
@Kameranium 15 күн бұрын
@meeshabenefer9787 Ay, I didn't mean it in a bad way lol It's the other comments that concern me.
@meeshabenefer9787
@meeshabenefer9787 15 күн бұрын
@@Kameranium we know how you meant it. Be aware that your comments aren’t anonymous before you expose your insecurities online. Do better.
@Kameranium
@Kameranium 15 күн бұрын
@@meeshabenefer9787 Fuck is you mean? I have no problems with anything said in this video. I do have problems with the blatantly racist comments against someone I considered an acquaintance, maybe even a friend.
@meeshabenefer9787
@meeshabenefer9787 15 күн бұрын
@@Kameranium good. She’s my best friend from home. It’s worded like you are referring to the debate itself not the comments made. Fairs
@SirPeteWindsor
@SirPeteWindsor 16 күн бұрын
Just started the video, and after the 1st affirmation, I could say that the country 'should' return people who weren't born in the country -- using the same ludicrous way of 'not thinking.'
@swiftlyaddictedtottpd
@swiftlyaddictedtottpd 12 күн бұрын
most people only leave their counties because of poverty and lack of the countryside money, but if former colonial rulers paid back reparations it would greatly help the country and it’s people so they wouldnt even need to come to these counties because their own would be sufficient
@dexieonrun3012
@dexieonrun3012 2 күн бұрын
Along with the reparations?
@joependleton6293
@joependleton6293 14 күн бұрын
Museums treasure their artifacts, always interesting.
@drstevej2527
@drstevej2527 15 күн бұрын
The Egyptians had no respect for their own historical artifacts. They were deteriorating in the desert but now they care.
@Cardiologyforever
@Cardiologyforever 14 күн бұрын
You speak on behalf of the Egyptians? Besides if your home is in a deteriorating condition ( for whatever reason, lets say you don't have enough money to look after it) does this allows me to take it?
@drstevej2527
@drstevej2527 14 күн бұрын
@@Cardiologyforever It’s not a home! Most of this was simply unclaimed ruins deteriorating in the desert before the British decided to preserve it. Now that it’s considered valuable the Egyptians want it back. These are the same Egyptians who rejected their own cultural heritage as paganism and who destroyed these artifacts for centuries. Lastly these are the same Egyptians who took much of their treasures during this period from OTHER cultures and countries. Are they planning on returning it to those cultures?
@Cardiologyforever
@Cardiologyforever 13 күн бұрын
@@drstevej2527 Regardless of whatever you say. Short answer it is not yours to take and justify it. Period
@drstevej2527
@drstevej2527 13 күн бұрын
@@Cardiologyforever Actually it’s logic reason and an understanding of history that dictates my position.
@RickRoy117
@RickRoy117 13 күн бұрын
How about returning Chinese and Indian and Irish native Artifacts then? They are priceless, and surely the UK being a Christian Civilised country has no need for the Artifacts of so-called uncivilised people, right? Thieves and robbers, you stole and robbed them fair and square, Pushed the common people into engineered famines, killing Millions and Millions, and have the audacity to spew nonsense after having the blood of our people on your hands?
@pekkoh75
@pekkoh75 2 күн бұрын
As a counter argument, it is becoming increasingly difficult to travel to many countries safely, including Egypt. If all of the artefacts are returned, there would only be British and some European artefacts in British museum and Louvre. To see World history, you would have to buy a whole folder of plane tickets costing tens of thousands of pounds, and fly around at the cost of several tons of carbon. British museum should return some artefacts but still keep a representative sample.
@AdityaRaj-ru9br
@AdityaRaj-ru9br 2 күн бұрын
But if I'm Indian I want to see my artifact, sculpture,swords, kohinoor why would I pay to go UK to see that which would cost me way more I only want to see mine plus it's good for every countries tourism not only britain
@c4call
@c4call 6 сағат бұрын
I love it when people who don't consider themselves part of the "we" like to refer to "we" when they want other people to do the things that they would prefer they do. She clearly doesn't consider herself British. Maybe partially british... maybe "culturally kinda british", but she doubtfully considers herself British. But she's got no problem saying "we" need to move past the finders-keepers mindset...... nobody's history is free of conquest as conquerors or conquered. The Egyptians who built the pyramids, or at least the rulers who ordered that they be built, looked very little like modern and common Egyptians today. Common Egyptians aren't the "rightful owners" of objects that were created 5000 years ago or even 2000 years ago. The thing the British need to move past, is the religious beliefs that were forced upon their ancestors that have made the modern British so weak and pitiful, begging to be liked by the world.
@jasoncromwell4206
@jasoncromwell4206 2 күн бұрын
This was MY OPINION until I started reading the reports out of Aleppo. The Taliban went through and destroyed the priceless works of art that had just been returned to Syria from England. The Taliban's reasoning: because the art work represented non or pre Muslim art. Granted how the pieces were obtained is terrible. Would you rather The British Museum keep them safe or send them back to unstable countries where they run the risk of being destroyed by another group like the Taliban?
@MrMattias87
@MrMattias87 3 күн бұрын
I call bollocks to her argument, nothing more but woke overcorrection of history.
@cornerstoneproductions6126
@cornerstoneproductions6126 12 күн бұрын
If they returned everything abroad , we would have very little left, and few people would visit them
@TestPleaseIgnore-im7hn
@TestPleaseIgnore-im7hn 7 күн бұрын
Therefore, embark on journeys to broaden your horizons.
@harry..flashman
@harry..flashman Күн бұрын
Can you discuss Egypt: Female FGM Mutilation ? and why its 80%+ there?
@mahasalama7793
@mahasalama7793 14 күн бұрын
A wonderful presentation , I am proud of you, my heart Karma ❤️
@jesika577
@jesika577 Күн бұрын
BRITISH museums aren't british
@AnupamAnandstelawhite
@AnupamAnandstelawhite 5 күн бұрын
: and recently there was a racialization once indians started turning brown , the prominent latestf of which were my dad's cousin ajju, gadkari and tendulkar
@olalekanadigun8759
@olalekanadigun8759 8 күн бұрын
This lady is eloquent
@PankajDoharey
@PankajDoharey 13 күн бұрын
British museums will be empty then.
@realDunalTrimp
@realDunalTrimp Күн бұрын
Oh my Gad
@NawalAkbar-o7u
@NawalAkbar-o7u 14 күн бұрын
Beautiful ❤ well done Karma
@rawanram9480
@rawanram9480 2 күн бұрын
Chor bazar is the right sentence
@nowthenzen
@nowthenzen 15 күн бұрын
The Rosetta probably belonged to some ancient Greek merchant. History and nations are not the same thing.
@danielwhyatt3278
@danielwhyatt3278 13 күн бұрын
Exactly
@whoislinz
@whoislinz 8 күн бұрын
wait what did she say no thank you to?
@lunazero433
@lunazero433 3 күн бұрын
Why would anyone return egyptian artifacts to the occupiers and opressors of the descendants who owned those artifacts?? Give back the country to the copts and then we'll talk about giving them their stuff back. Calling yourself egyptian doesn't mean you take over ownership of the stuff of the people you conquered. Until the copts get at least their own country and the right to make their own laws without having to listen to you, there is no way we're handing their stuff over to you. I don't doubt their ability to take care of their stuff, I'm doubting your ability to take care of their stuff.
@lunazero433
@lunazero433 2 күн бұрын
@@GotMyTowel42 ... I know?
@somayaelgawhary9400
@somayaelgawhary9400 13 күн бұрын
God bless you Karma
@user-vc9vw7pj3j
@user-vc9vw7pj3j 14 күн бұрын
She means lancashires pot holes need filling,forget the truth!
@muditchaudhary7255
@muditchaudhary7255 7 күн бұрын
Why people don't want to move on. People are so obsessed with past. When we learn to forger past and live in present. No wonder ancient indian weren't interested in recording each event so they can remembered in future. Cause they knew that's a useless thing to do. People says history tells us that people learned from history but i think there is not much to learn. You still going to believe what you want to believe.
@jaspreetmodi
@jaspreetmodi Күн бұрын
Change the title to mention "For Egyptians" only. She is here for her own country. Rest all are referred as colonies or countries. Britain stands on the loot from India which wasnt even mentioned once until 7th min starting. Atleast a few countries by name must have been mentioned.
@ismailembaby6895
@ismailembaby6895 14 күн бұрын
Well articulated 👍🏼
@Monyme69
@Monyme69 14 күн бұрын
Very well said👏🏼👏🏼
@shantanusingh7600
@shantanusingh7600 6 күн бұрын
The thumbnail💀
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj Күн бұрын
The artefacts are in British museum because British people value more those things. And muslims do not look how they destroyed ancient city of Palmirya in Syria they don’t value historical heritage that’s why it’s better for to present those Exponates in British museum that is much more safe for heritage
@ahmedzahir2865
@ahmedzahir2865 19 сағат бұрын
Are you saying Muslims across the globe destroyed or wanted the destruction of that city? What about other ancient cities across the Islamic world and the museums? What about all that was destroyed during world war 1 & 2? Or the dissolution of the monasteries? Would you say that Europeans wanted that? So much shit happens during war and every nation has a sizable population of philistines that don't care about heritage and would gladly destroy whatever they can but also out of ignorance or even out of necessity in a time of crisis.
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj 12 сағат бұрын
@@ahmedzahir2865 There might me some small number of muslims that didn’t want the city to be destroyed. But the rest either didn’t care or they were supporting the destruction.
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj 12 сағат бұрын
@@ahmedzahir2865 There are a lot of videos how muslims are destroying the ancient sculptures.
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj 12 сағат бұрын
@@ahmedzahir2865 Just search the destruction of artefacts in Mosul you will realise why it is better for artefacts to be in British and civilised museums
@engineeringmadeasy
@engineeringmadeasy 4 күн бұрын
Karma what are you trying to say. Please help me.
@Architectonica
@Architectonica 12 күн бұрын
What's the idea behind all this theatrical, self-serving performance? Dismantle Western heritage? Next re-draw the national borders of European nation states? I suggest they demand that she produce her British passport to the public before she was allowed to use this podium as a launchpad for an assault on British and European (yess!!) heritage.
@dinaoncy1999
@dinaoncy1999 14 күн бұрын
Outstanding ❤
@andresyenes7261
@andresyenes7261 13 күн бұрын
Nice speech! And to the british museum: ¡Devuelvan el Moai!
@guywillson1549
@guywillson1549 9 күн бұрын
Our Christian heritage reveals artifacts relevant to this. The Bible speaks a lot about ancient history of Egypt, the Holy Land, Rome, etc.
@AndrewNeale-go9eq
@AndrewNeale-go9eq 2 күн бұрын
She's talking s**t
@dhammaboy1203
@dhammaboy1203 2 күн бұрын
I mean sometimes, (and, it may be the case RE Egypt's history) but I also think we need to address the sticky issue of cultures that destroy archeological treasures in the name of militant religions - like the Taliban's long history of destroying priceless historic artifacts in the name of ideology. These are also crimes against humanity. Likewise, not all nations have the government or economics to preserve archeological treasures. You also need to address the real world issue as well as advocating for ideals - because history must be preserved & some cultures cant or wont. This talk appears a little selective in regard to what it chooses to problematize.
@histarchus
@histarchus 12 күн бұрын
The very fact that this lady is allowed to make this speech and is listened to with respect shows how advanced and tolerant British society is.
@SanjanaNAthreya
@SanjanaNAthreya 10 күн бұрын
What do you mean advanced? expressing an opinion should be a persons fundamental right and it is so in most of the countries(even developing countries). There is nothing advanced about it
@optus7113
@optus7113 9 күн бұрын
​@@SanjanaNAthreyaNo the freedom of speech is not the same everywhere just because it is written in some paper book does not mean the implementation and ground reality is touched. Let's take an example of India a third world country where freedom of speech is forbidden despite it's written in their constitution as a fundamental right yet the practice isn't widespread because of the fear from indian illiterate mob. Can anyone criticize india in their home does they places for debate regarding historical matters where it is clearly indian sub-continental empires were evil and proved? The answer is no the British allows every single individual to speak whatever they wish to and many takes the advantage of it spreading lies and disinformation proven from Shashi Tharoor's work which was fraud deep down
@martin96991
@martin96991 9 күн бұрын
​@@optus7113who made it 3rd world? UK became 1st world only because of INDIA and its resources, otherwise they'll be traveling on boats to African countries just like African countries are doing today. You stole $50 trillion of wealth from INDIA and it is a conservative figure never forget that.
@martin96991
@martin96991 9 күн бұрын
​@@optus7113can anyone criticize INDIA in their home? As far as I know INDIA never invaded any country by force and looted trillions of dollars of wealth and ki//ed millions and millions of people. (65 million in INDIA alone)
@martin96991
@martin96991 9 күн бұрын
​@@optus7113entire UK is build on INDIAN money. INDIA was the world's richest country throughout its history before British looted it ($50 trillion) its karma what Britain is facing today.
@Stoddardian
@Stoddardian 2 күн бұрын
Go back then.
@missmitra.a96
@missmitra.a96 12 күн бұрын
Don't you think that if these old items are in the British Museum, they will be safer and better present your culture to the world and it will benefit you?I even think you should be proud of this opportunity!
@bupehara64
@bupehara64 Күн бұрын
yeah np im sorry no because we are not going to pretent as though the countries of origin of most of the artifacts in the british museaum dont come for politically unstable regions. everytime there is a civil conflit we lose history and if the uk plunged into some civil war then happily move it to a more stable economy and civilation.
@misopaw
@misopaw Күн бұрын
Jesus Chris I stopped watching this video when I saw her affected behavior
@khaledgad604
@khaledgad604 14 күн бұрын
Amazing! Super like ❤
@AlessandroAI85
@AlessandroAI85 12 күн бұрын
She's so beautiful she's right!
@zarbins
@zarbins 9 күн бұрын
Don't be so easily swayed by beauty. She's absolutely wrong.
@KimTaehyung-u9p
@KimTaehyung-u9p 9 күн бұрын
she needs too be deported!
@hebashafei5460
@hebashafei5460 13 күн бұрын
Great job👏👏👏
@ahmedelgamal5443
@ahmedelgamal5443 14 күн бұрын
She said it all Thank you for spreading awareness of what was stolen from egypt
@Sleepyirishcoffee
@Sleepyirishcoffee 6 сағат бұрын
Wasn't the Rosetta stone used as a base for a fort?
@K.I.N.G234
@K.I.N.G234 12 күн бұрын
She's gorgeous
@narimanabbas4521
@narimanabbas4521 13 күн бұрын
Brilliant speech from amazing Egyptian lady 🤩 extremely proud of you 👏👏👏
@thomasdap8659
@thomasdap8659 4 күн бұрын
Intellectual gal
@danielyates9055
@danielyates9055 2 күн бұрын
Speaking as an American with anglo father. The fact that she is a student at Oxford, allowed to give this speech, is exactly why I think she is wrong. London is a city that brought the whole world together, and it's museum respectfully tells the story of humanity. The only thing more diverse than the collection is the visitors. Isn't it a good thing for us all to be able to see our common story? Most nations would only showcase their own artifacts, make themselves central in the story of humanity. Perhaps a long with the artifacts, she would like to return to Egypt?
@travelizepulse
@travelizepulse 2 күн бұрын
London underground was operational in January of 1863 . UK's affluence and progressiveness was set in tracks. I recently learnt about how banks were the foremost institutions of equality in society and so a force of progress like none other. I'm sure the banking and free market system that was perfected over time had helped in reaching milestones and many people who were nurtured by Britain to enable this. But the naming an item loot may not go along with everything that was achieved. At least a formal letter from each state saying this is left to help foster a world of unity and to bring cultures together would be a way forward, just my imagination, although it may be imperfect it is just something that decency begs from my moral compass to say at this point in time. Although I hope this does not overshadow institutions like National Trust which was founded by a lady at a time when it would have been impossible in many countries for women to do so, even to this day in some countries unfortunately.
@Leonida_28
@Leonida_28 9 күн бұрын
The Cancel Calture
@youssef-lz8fj
@youssef-lz8fj 16 күн бұрын
An eloquent person, but she says that she grew up in both countries but the entire speech shows favouritism. She put no reasoning about the whyes, but just threw slurs and played victimhood. British museums gave importance and meaning to these artifacts, which the natives never gave a damn about. British museums invested in means to preserve these artifacts, and now that the natives started growing envious and disgruntled, they should pay the British museums the artifacts safekeeping with interest at least, if they want them back, to be fair and to prove that they value the artifacts. She talks about the british museums being patronising, and disregards the natives clear attitude in criminalising the british museums and holding "holier than thou" stance. I say, a quick search would show what the remaining artifacts in their native land are going through from looting and negligence.
@sammygoodnight
@sammygoodnight 16 күн бұрын
Exactly. The only reason any of the pieces in Western museums are considered important artifacts at all is because the collective West considered them so. Leave the British museum alone (and the Louvre and Pergamon museum in Berlin, etc.)
@varunmirasdar
@varunmirasdar 15 күн бұрын
So who told you the natives never gave any damn about? Attack the natives, destroy their culture, and then save their artifacts a few years later claiming to save them? Classic juice strategy
@Architectonica
@Architectonica 14 күн бұрын
Yeah, she is eloquent as long as she's got that script before her. Anyway, she should be thankful to the British Museum and to Britain as her adopted homeland that she and other people even had a chance to look at those treasures from the place of her origine. However, if Europeans start talking today about dismantling their history, setting right the wrongs of the Imperial past, the gates to hell would flip wide open, and one of the next logical steps would be to try and re-draw national borders - maybe starting from the age of the Roman Empire.
@danielwhyatt3278
@danielwhyatt3278 13 күн бұрын
I couldn’t agree with you more. That was absolutely perfectly put. There is a clear case of victimhood and holier than thou attitude going on from her and those that are irrationally desperate to get these pieces back. They’re staying here, as they should. Time moves on, as it always does.
@RickRoy117
@RickRoy117 13 күн бұрын
How about returning Chinese and Indian and Irish native Artifacts then? They are priceless, and surely the UK being a Christian Civilised country has no need for the Artifacts of so-called uncivilised people, right? Thieves and robbers, you stole and robbed them fair and square, Pushed the common people into engineered famines, killing Millions and Millions, and have the audacity to spew nonsense after having the blood of our people on your hands?
@kholoudmohamed5524
@kholoudmohamed5524 14 күн бұрын
Big like
@vgycreations6525
@vgycreations6525 13 күн бұрын
She is very beautiful
@AmrHefny-k3v
@AmrHefny-k3v 14 күн бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏❤❤❤❤
@saurabhhkumarrr
@saurabhhkumarrr 3 күн бұрын
Beauty with brain
@yimtsungerjamir3453
@yimtsungerjamir3453 2 күн бұрын
bla..bla..blah
@ANDRE96052
@ANDRE96052 5 күн бұрын
you cant re write history england explored and conquerd and gave the model of how we live modern life through the commonwealth
@arranadler-williams5489
@arranadler-williams5489 15 күн бұрын
Brilliant speech from a brilliant future leader of this country.
@somayaelgawhary9400
@somayaelgawhary9400 13 күн бұрын
Bravo Karma
@scienceavtar
@scienceavtar Күн бұрын
she is indian
@ManuelSalasM
@ManuelSalasM 15 күн бұрын
Her ancestors she said🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 She really believes she is related to ancient Egyptians. What the hell do they teach at Oxford...? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@user-vc9vw7pj3j
@user-vc9vw7pj3j 14 күн бұрын
The day of the fallen pickle jars
@ehabelias5536
@ehabelias5536 13 күн бұрын
She is definitely related to ancient Egyptians, if not sure , check the modern Egyptian genome map compared to ancient Egyptian genome maps, 97% identical.
@nirwana07
@nirwana07 13 күн бұрын
@@ehabelias5536 humans as whole has genetic component 97% similar to other apes
@ManuelSalasM
@ManuelSalasM 13 күн бұрын
@@ehabelias5536 That is not what serious papers recently published in Nature says. But if so her ancestors where poor like mice and did not own any artifacts, she must be really mad at the Ptolemaic dynasty and Rome. By the way, hers and chimps genomes are almost 99 percent identical. She should ask British zoos to free those apes back to the jungle
@akitainu6858
@akitainu6858 13 күн бұрын
True 🤣🤣Modern Egyptians have no genetic connection to the Mummies of Egypt. The current population of Egypt is from Arabian Peninsula not native egypt. Native egyptians were Black Africans. Her argument is not correct because the historical heritage of Egypt doesn't belong to her ancestors or to current Egyptian's. They are not even the same people, the current Egyptian's are squatters on an ancient land, whose historical riches belong to Black Africans if perhaps you really want to find an ownership. Not to middle eastern migrants to egypt in the last 1000 yrs.
@YourFan024
@YourFan024 13 күн бұрын
WHAT’S SOUNDS LIKE A BRITISH BUT IT’S NOT? Me: British MISEUM 😊
@vivekkumarsinghdixit5521
@vivekkumarsinghdixit5521 13 күн бұрын
You born on,near 1996 to 2000 before you leave in my hoom with me,
@maryamzrk945
@maryamzrk945 9 сағат бұрын
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🤲🏼🤲🏼🤲🏼🤲🏼🤲🏼
@sanjay7pisces
@sanjay7pisces 7 күн бұрын
Her body language for a university debate is obnoxious. And she's merely regurgitating printed texts.
@nathansellars3757
@nathansellars3757 15 күн бұрын
Shes not british, she has no say
@cyb-m
@cyb-m 14 күн бұрын
those artifacts are not british either. they belong in their lands of origin. to be seen by the descendants of those civilizations.
@epic6434
@epic6434 13 күн бұрын
​@@cyb-m You're probably a civilian under parliament or a turncoat no offense but that's like me telling the military branches to I'm king they'll probably start calling me Bob Hope throw yourself down from these walls and your father will send his angels to catch you before you hit the rocks? Humpty Dumpty there's a classic. That was a good pitch you just ask those countries with stolen artifacts for if their writing a check or have an account with a world bank 😂 it's like telling the devil I want my soul back and he shows you how you were living before you joined the church 😂 it's not funny but it's the world earth and heaven sometimes they say universe your in a church branch or something.
@jonstfrancis
@jonstfrancis 12 күн бұрын
Well Britain loves having their say on every other country's affairs.
@arkaroy9827
@arkaroy9827 10 күн бұрын
You are not owners of the looted wealth you have no right
@userfu2uv6tz3f
@userfu2uv6tz3f 10 күн бұрын
neither are the artifacts
@anatomistica
@anatomistica 14 күн бұрын
Thank you for raising this issue and spreading awareness about it. Egypt 🇪🇬 ❤️
@harry..flashman
@harry..flashman Күн бұрын
tell us about fgm and female circumcision carried out on children in egypt, why 80% of your daughters mutilated?
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