British Reactions To Moneyball | First Time Watching | Movie Reaction

Welcome to our channel, where British guys delve into the world of shows & movies and share their genuine first-time reactions! In today's episode, we have the critically acclaimed film "Moneyball" to experience together. Join us as we witness this sports drama unfold and provide our honest thoughts! "Moneyball" is renowned for its unique take on the game of baseball and the strategic decisions made by Oakland Athletics' general manager, Billy Beane. As we watch it for the very first time, we'll explore its captivating storyline, spectacular performances, and thought-provoking insights. Throughout this reaction video, we'll share our reactions, highlighting the aspects that struck a chord with us. Join us as we embark on this cinematic journey and discover "Moneyball" through our British eyes. Whether you're a sports enthusiast, a movie fanatic, or simply someone looking for a fresh perspective, this reaction video is sure to pique your interest. Make sure to leave your comments, as we love engaging with our audience and hearing your opinions! Have you seen "Moneyball" before? How did it resonate with you? If you haven't, get ready to navigate the realm of talent, triumph, and tribulations that this film presents. Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more exciting reactions and reviews! We're passionate about exploring diverse genres and sharing our reactions with insightful commentary. Thank you for joining us on this cinematic adventure! Grab your popcorn, sit back, and let's jump into "Moneyball: First-Time Reactions!"
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[@nathanlawson313]

This was absolutely a true story of the 2002 season. Embellished? Dramatized? A couple fake people added? Yes. But the broad strokes were spot on. The A's lost the championship with the lowest budget in the league, got their stars poached, used math to build a new team, went on a record winning streak, made it back and lost again.

[@gk5891]

The Field Manager (Coach) Art Howe was actually much more willing to cooperate with the changes than portrayed in the film. I guess they needed the extra drama.

[@williamferguson5404]

@@gk5891 While that's definitely Art Howe's story, I'm not entirely sure his version is accurate. I'm actually getting ready to read Michael Lewis' nonfiction book and I'm curious to learn about Howe's role in all this.

[@LuckySmurf]

@@williamferguson5404 iirc, players like Hatteberg support Art's claim.

[@gk5891]

@@williamferguson5404 Billy Beane disassociated himself from the way Art was portrayed in the film. Outright obstructionist is an exaggeration for dramatic effect. Others involved mostly agree Art's version is closer to the way they perceived events than the film. I personally believe Art had more reservations than he has publicly stated, but that doesn't mean I buy the film version.

[@And-ur6ol]

@@gk5891 question from someone who knows 0 about baseball outside the film. Is the part about trading Pena true? I mean, i get that Pena probably wasn't traded in the real world because Art would only play him. But did he get traded?

[@phunkjnky]

At its heart, "Moneyball" is about finding and exploiting economic discrepancies in the name of competitiveness. The great tragedy and triumph of the Moneyball-era A's is that they were built for success over the 162 game schedule, NOT the 5 or 7 game series that are the postseason.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Love this, appreciate the comment!

[@Scholarstorm]

Joey Votto on batting slumps: The experience of being in a batting slump is that it feels like a labyrinth. One feels trapped, alone, and disoriented. When you finally get out you are relieved and can’t believe how easy it was to find the exit. Unfortunately, that exit eventually leads to another labyrinth.

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, and Alex Rodriguez on batting slumps: "There is no such thing as a batting slump. Each at bat is a new opportunity for success!"

[@johanna0131]

Aw, such a great movie. So glad you watched it! It is hard not to be romantic about baseball. 😊

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Yeah it’s great and that’s my favourite quote from the movie!

[@JuandeFucaU]

you're a good egg.

[@joedougherty4324]

We use the term film as well. But I use it to distinguish between popcorn fluff and quality. Avengers is a “movie”, Moneyball is a “film”. Great reaction guys.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

That’s a great way of putting it, appreciate your comment 🙏🏼

[@laudanum669]

Agreed I use the word movie for light hearted fun, goofy, over the top stuff. I reserve film for the best of them.

[@YoureMrLebowski]

4:44 the score is so good. gives me chills.

[@Droski_Rodriguez19]

How can you not be romantic about baseball? Such a great film 👌🏽

[@DNReactsShowtime]

My favourite line ❤️

[@Droski_Rodriguez19]

@@DNReactsShowtime absolutely. Gets me in the feels every time! Another great sports film I recommend in invincible with mark wahlberg

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, my favorite lines in the movie are Billy's daughter singing about being a child of divorce: "I'm just a little kid caught in the middle......"....

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, my favorite lines in the movie are Billy's daughter singing about being a child of divorce: "I'm just a little kid caught in the middle......"....

[@erolbulut2584]

This really just a snapshot of what most teams go through every year. Pretty good film, and good job fellas.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@kylerwilson8665]

This movie is definitely dramatized in some aspects (and leaves out other details of the story too), but the main parts of the story rings true. The Moneyball A's really started a movement into more analytic driven baseball which helped evolve the sport. No major sport relies more on analytics than baseball today, they have stats and expected stats for everything.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Yeah it definitely is! It’s a great movie and I can see how it paved the way for more statistic driven baseball!

[@samuelmoulds1016]

aaah.... actually..... Bill James brought the 'moneyball' concept to major league baseball. Theo Epstein used it when he accepted the job Billy Beane turned down from the owner of the Boston Red Sox. OH! here's a fun fact: the fellow playing the part of the owner of the Boston Red Sox (the one Billy told to buy a bowling ball for his wife's birthday) was in real life THE OWNER OF THE BOSTON RED SOX!!!

[@peterandjunko]

Damo, I was hoping to get a reaction from you when Billy was talking to the Liverpool owner about working for him in Boston! Great job guys- The Natural and Field of Dreams are great films and encapsulate the romance of baseball and the importance to American culture.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

We spoke about it afterwards! Field of dreams is out on our Patreon tomorrow!

[@samuelmoulds1016]

aaah.... actually,... my favorite baseball movie is "It Happens Every Spring." staring Ray Milland.

[@scotter23]

It’s all true. A few things simplified for Hollywood but it’s all true.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Great movie!

[@christopherking4932]

Awesome reaction/ love this movie so much. I'm not really a baseball fan but this movie made me realize how special the game really is.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

It’s definitely a movie that can be enjoyed by non baseball fans as well 😀

[@dennislopez1272]

Well done, lads. I'm glad you decided to start a movie reaction channel.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Thanks Dennis. Appreciate your support 🙏 Hoping to have plenty of shows and movies on here as things start to pick up

[@rumblestylskyn]

Broooo awesome vid... Y'all get to see all the classic American sports movies for the first time is gonna be sick.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Thank you! We’ve watched a few on our Patreon already, it’s been an incredible journey so far!

[@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace]

Art Howe was done dirty in this movie. I met him a few times both when he was a player in the early 1980's (and I was a young kid at Lee Mazzilli's baseball camp in NY) and when he was managing the Mets in the early 2000's.. he was one of the nicer people in the game.

[@tamarleigh]

21:00 I bet it’s a lot easier for the GM to find a good parking space than it is for the rest of us 😉

[@DNReactsShowtime]

😂😂

[@zbennalley]

I got to know Ron Washington, and his humor was definitely shown in the moments he was on screen.

[@currybr]

The owner of the Red Sox who offered the big contract to Billy Beane is John Henry who now owns the Liverpool football club.

[@NoUploadJustComment]

Great film. Yes it’s a true story.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Thank you for the comment and context 🙏

[@jameshurley9551]

I was at games 16 and 20 in the streak. I'm not even an A's fan but I'm a fan of the game and went. This movie gives me chills watching it. It was so hype in the Bay Area when this was going on. It was a hell of a time and place to be. The only thing I've felt that was the same was being at Bonds' record breaking home run game. It's a feeling of euphoria that everyone feels and its electric. I hope you guys get to be at a game that sparks this kind of vibe!

[@aguilarjr]

Now you have to watch a movie called Fever Pitch. The secondary storyline is the Red Sox season where they finally win the World Series.

[@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames]

My favorite baseball quote is the following: "People will walk out to the bleachers, and sit in shirt-sleeves on a perfect afternoon. They'll find they have reserved seats somewhere along one of the baselines, where they sat when they were children and cheered their heroes. And they'll watch the game, and it'll be as if they'd dipped themselves in magic waters. The memories will be so thick, they'll have to brush them away from their faces. :The one constant through all the years has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game -- it's a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and it could be again." -- Terrence Mann

[@GrouchyOldBear7]

Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.

[@frankielambardo9268]

Great review and reactions!

[@timbeatty8411]

I grew up playing baseball in the 1970 s and I don't know what it is about this movie that makes me cry and feel so much like a little kid.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Yeah it got me in the feels! Great movie!

[@nebidiaswift5200]

Let’s just talk about the fact you guys understand the game well enough to say the least- awesome.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Thank you 🙏

[@quantumfootball]

Both the book and the movie seem to make it sound like the contributions from established stars like Miguel Tejada, Eric Chavez, Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder, and Barry Zito didn't exist. That being said, what they did at the other positions was ahead of its time.

[@csmith220983]

Small market baseball teams are always playing a version of "moneyball", trying to counter the meta of large salaries for the top tier of talent. The 2002 A's exploited the overlooked concept/stat of on base percentage. I would like to encourage you to look at the 2014 and especially 2015 Kansas City Royals as a recent version of "Moneyball". They used a combination of ellite baserunning speed, stellar defense, and immacualte bullpen relief to shorten games to the first 6 innings. Their 2015 World Series title is unlike any other (honorable mention 2011 Cardinals).

[@wyttwntz]

One detail like is in the scene where Billy trades Jeremy in front of the coach, he sits in Jeremy's seat almost like a chess move

[@kurtisschilk1218]

In the States if someone says, "I'm praying for you and your family", context is everything of course, but that is something we would say when we want you to be happy with life....Hope that helps

[@drew.168]

The royals 2 ws run in the mid 2010s was basically fueld by the same concept at least offensively but did it through drafting and bringing a team up together though the minors. Get on base. Put pressure on fielding with aggressive baserunning and speed. They just had decent starting pitching. Lights out defense and a ridiculous 7-8-9 inning pitching combo.

[@Condors55]

The bat throwing scene: were you thinking about an almost similar scene in Kevin Costner's Bull Durham?

[@A-small-amount-of-peas]

I think the closest thing Britain got to this was Leicester winning the Prem on a miniscule budget by using data and backing that up with scouting. They identified Mahrez and Konte as massively underrated players that all the top teams overlooked based on yards covered, ball retention, chances created etc and ended up with the best midfield partnership in the Prem that year and made a huge profit selling them

[@olivermakesbuckets]

So cool you guys reacted to this

[@bigernmacrackin6176]

You need to watch the sandlot, little big league, a league of their own, and 8 men out... and then field of dreams, but.... you need to watch the highlights of the field of dreams game where the White sox played the yankees at the movie set, it was AMAZING!!!

[@DNReactsShowtime]

We’ve watched The Sandlot and Field of Dreams! They are on our Patreon!

[@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames]

One of the best baseball movies of all time, and its a true story.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

💯

[@alexbenson245]

One of my favorite films. That said, that season the Oakland As had 4 superstar anchors on the team, supported by the rest of the team that was designed to bring in the runs.

[@ctmetsfanmike9262]

OG Airbud 🙏

[@woundedcrow4606]

People trash the movie sometimes because the A’s were a little more stacked than it’s portrayed. They still had team control over Eric Chavez, Tim Hudson, Miguel Tejada, Barry Zito, and Mark Mulder. They all had very successful careers, but none of them were HoF level. And they were young at their core too. I think the fact that he assembled that core to begin with shows how good Beane was as a GM. And that he traded Carlos Peña, who rarely batted over .200 and who struck out more than anyone practically. He DID revolutionize baseball. So much so that by today’s standards the Sabremetrics Billy Beane was using at the time are Neolithic by comparison.

[@gchung2700]

Thats my most favourite baseball team, born and raised an hour away from Oakland rooting for the A's for as long as I can remember.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Love this! Sad what’s happening with the A’s right now. Appreciate the comment 🙏

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, I loved where your A's played in Oakland! all I can think about when I AM there is Ted Williams! Ted said he saw the ball better in Detroit than In any other place. Oakland has GREAT sight lines. and I have been in every mlb stadium, field, park, dome and colecium west of Toronto.🎉

[@GreenJeepAdventures]

Thing about sports film are, you don't need to understand sports to enjoy the movies, for sports is rarely the central focus. The films are more often about overcoming adversity, the bonding of players and coaches, and redemption. If you do decide to react to more sports movies, please consider 'Million Dollar Baby' (boxing drama).

[@mirantilin]

I actually got spoiled from the movie and the ending truly traumatized me.

[@AndyB80808]

Secretariat is another really good film based on a true story well worth watching

[@Go4Jeph]

Some other must see baseball movies: Field Of Dreams, The Natural, A League Of Their Own, Bull Durham

[@DNReactsShowtime]

We’ve seen Field Of Dreams, comes out tomorrow on our Patreon!

[@atomicwest995]

I don’t even like baseball, but I love this movie.

[@mikehutton3187]

A very true story.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Thank you Mike! An epic movie, so unique

[@YoureMrLebowski]

Major League (1989) a comedy about baseball.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Had this one in a few Patreon polls. Hopefully it gets the nod soon 🤞

[@grabsgranite3188]

Moneyball is a fantastic movie, however, the first baseball movie that anyone should see is Field of Dreams. Maybe not your traditional sports movie, but my favorite movie of all time. Would love to see a reaction to that.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

We have watched this one, the reaction is on our Patreon only at the moment. It takes so long to edit these videos for KZbin. Working my way through them

[@olivermakesbuckets]

Y’all are my favorite reactors

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Thank you 🙏🤩

[@matthewlaird5235]

Looking at the game from a strictly numbers standpoint is great. The problem that you come into contact with is that the sample size you are working with shrinks from 500 plus’s at bats to 32 during a post season. And for anyone that has taken a statistics class, that small of a sample size leads it’s self to statistical anomalies.

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, quite frankly, I never thought of that! and, when I played, pitchers always, "finished what they started".

[@KevinQuinn81]

0:19 - NOPE! Real movies. "Air Bud" is the first one in which he plays basketball. Then there was a sequel, "Air Bud: Golden Receiver" (he's a golden retriever), where he plays football. Then he proceeds to play soccer, then baseball, then volleyball. THEN, they spawn an entire spin-off cinematic universe around his kids (who can talk now) with "Air Buddies." You can Google it, it's madness! 7:18 - As a lifelong first baseman, I adore this line. Unfortunately, it's thrown away for a laugh but it hits me in my soul. It's a long-standing tradition to put the best hitters who can't field or run worth a lick at first and expect them to excel. In fairness to those who are good athletes anyway, many figure it out but they do this at some of the earliest levels and it always took time away from me playing first because I wasn't as good of a hitter as some guys but I wanted to play first and they didn't so it was frustrating. 7:28 - To your point Nick, you don't have to throw as FAR at first. It's a super rare spot that the first baseman has to throw across to third like on a bunt and you can strategize a defensive play that takes away that scenario entirely. Then the longest throw IS to second on a force attempt. The problem is (and this bit the Mets in the ass at the end of the clinching Game 5 of the 2015 World Series) that while it's not a long throw, you still need your first basemen (like any infielder) to make GOOD throws and that is a lot harder than it looks, especially for a guy who is not expected to throw a lot. 13:49 - This is, in fact, BASED on a true story. It's a dramatization in its purest form. All of the people existed and over-arching baseball events involved happened; including the streak and the Hatteberg walk-off. Anyone stating that this is a work of pure fiction is being hyperbolic. This story was originally put down in a book called Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game by Michael Lewis who also wrote the books on The Big Short and The Blind Side. It was a non-fiction account about the 2002 A's season in part but it was also about the general boon statistical analysis and buy-low mentalities in baseball front offices. I think the biggest gripe this movie gets is how it over-sells the personalities and motivations of the primary characters. From what I understand, this movie portrays Art Howe MUCH worse than he actually was. He was an old school guy but never this much of a grump. And I think Jonah Hill's and the head scout's characters are aggregate characters who did exist in name but represented the thoughts and actions of multiple other people as well. 14:13 - I could look it up but I do know the standings they were showing in the movie were of the AL West division. At this point, only the 3 division winners and 1 wild card made it to the Divisional Series.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Love the info Kevin, a brilliant read! Hell I was liking this comment the second you gave me a breakdown on the AirBud movie collection 😂

[@carlosvaladez2186]

Another 🔥 reaction

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Thank you Carlos 🔥🔥

[@nb_nic]

the biggest inaccuracy with the movie iirc was that the manager was nowhere near as spiteful as they portray him as. I remember that being a whole big thing, that he actually was pretty on board from the jump

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Yeah they had to add some Hollywood drama 😂

[@joejackson4202]

Great movie. Top tier.

[@adamp2029]

And don’t forget Eight Men Out, about the Chicago “Black Sox” scandal of 1919, when some members of the White Sox were bribed by gamblers to throw the World Series.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Appreciate the suggestion Adam, thanks 🙏

[@erolbulut2584]

Good long -form reactions.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@donaldgilbert6739]

Great reaction! You should react to Draft Day with Kevin costner, about the NFL draft.

[@gougemaster1074]

It was based on a true story. They were integrating the sabre metrics system for years so the scouts getting upset with the GM was just to make the story better.

[@jimmcdonald4087]

Correct. And field manager Art Howe was not fighting the adoption of sabrmetrics and advanced analytics. It was really kind of a dick move by the film makers to make him a villain.

[@gougemaster1074]

@@jimmcdonald4087 you're not wrong. But they aren't making a documentary. So they need an antagonist, unfortunately Art had to catch a stray bullet.

[@timhefty504]

I was the 1,000 subscriber

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Thank you Tim! 😀

[@projectc.j.j3310]

Need to see sandlot guys

[@DNReactsShowtime]

We’ve seen it, it’s on our Patreon 😀

[@creature1273]

interesting y'all chose which one this one because i am currently reading this book, also its a reminder of the things that the movie changes for show as it goes through it. I also heard an interview with the guy who wrote the book. After the book came out, Beane was furious that he told all the stories from the book. Not because he thought, people would figure out what he did, its because he used bad language and he was worried his mom would see it. He actually thought the other clubs were too dumb to catch on (everyone in the league uses their methods now). This is a mostly true story. Lots of things are sped up for the story. Also as far what Beane said about his career, according to the book, said he had every tool but didn't have the ability to fail and move forward. He let every failure weigh on him and it turned him into a mediocre player. Who could have been great.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Interesting comment, thanks for this, great read.

[@fooddog45]

A great movie!! Probably top 5 for me.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

It really is great!

[@corvus1374]

Check out Draft Day with Kevin Costner about a fictional NFL draft

[@zacharyliles8657]

There are so many amazing baseball movies out there. A League of Their Own would be my highest recommendation!

[@DNReactsShowtime]

I think we’ve had this one in Patreon polls. Will make sure it’s in the next one

[@kentgrady9226]

This (moneyball, as a concept) is the next evolution in world football. Watch what Ange Postecoglou is doing at Spurs. Granted, injuries are taking a toll at the moment. But, his philosophy - not the best and flashiest players, but rather, the *RIGHT* players - has reenergized that club and its supporter base. When Kane left, and everyone said the sky was falling, Big Ange said, "Perfect, Mate". Give him two more transfer windows, and that squad will be a buzz saw. If anyone is paying attention, the days of oligarchs and oil sheikhs and American robber barons buying trophies will come to an end. As a football fan and sport in general, it can't happen soon enough.

[@zacharyliles8657]

COYS

[@kentgrady9226]

@@zacharyliles8657 Original post, courtesy of an envious Celtic fan. I had no illusions that Ange would stay in Glasgow forever, but I was hoping for one more season. Brendan Rogers is a decent manager - not great, not especially imaginative or creative, but decent. AP is, all facets of running a football club considered, one of the best managers in the world. We were lucky to have him, as are you lucky to have him now.

[@Jimbow-sz9kh]

Very good movie. Enjoyable for people that don't even like baseball (I would know, forced many friends to watch this with me lol) But here's a weird piece of trivia some viewers will know if they enjoy video games. Weird cameo by the CEO of Blizzard/Activision Bobby Kotick as he plays the owner of the Oakland Athletics. Looked into it and he did it as a favor to his friend the director due to a charity they do with US Military vets (pretty sure it ties in with their "Call of Duty" series). But he didn't want/ask for an acting credit or any credit on the production. While those who know his company and his decisions will rightfully call him a greedy and downright bad dude, I gotta hand it to him for doing this lil cameo as a favor and for running a charity for active duty and vets.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Definitely enjoyable for all, even non sports fans! Thanks for the trivia! That’s great to know 😀

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

How can you not be romantic about baseball?

[@matthewpeters8989]

Left foot right foot left foot right foot 😂

[@floydhill9265]

Friday Night Lights gentlemen. It's a true taste of Americana.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Currently watching the series on our Patreon! We’re loving it 🔥

[@floydhill9265]

@@DNReactsShowtime I meant the film 😊

[@galagajunkie]

First time I watched Moneyball that night I won a ten leg parlay of random MLB money lines on DraftKings, tuned $1 into $400. Never happened again... so far.

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, like Pete Rose said, and major league baseball sez NOW!!!! "Bet on baseball."

[@Jetz316]

It’s based on a true story

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Thank you 🙏

[@Varzaak]

I enjoyed this. You guys out to start another channel for just movie reactions. They make lots of money. Hint hint. Not just sports movies because you will run out of them fairly quickly.

[@Roller-Ball]

A great baseball player is one of the hardest things to be. You have to hit a round ball with a round stick ......square. It is only sport, doing something 3 out of 10 times (hitting 300) is a great. Can you name another sport or job where doing 30 percent of the time is great. Can't say weather forecaster either.

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, I love these quotes from Ted Williams! got the last one on the living room wall with Williams ending his swing! talked to Ted in 1966. WHAT A GENTLEMAN.

[@matthewpeters8989]

Talk more about the movie in the reaction after the film

[@billstein2]

"I'll be praying for you" is just something a religious person would say to someone they feel for (in the US). In this movie, I think it shows the player's knowledge that Bean's job is in danger.

[@samuelmoulds1016]

aaah.... actually...."I'll be praying for you." is something religious Christian people do.

[@jrgilby]

The questions brought up in this movie are still debated to this day. Do you make a team from the math, or by the players star power? In 2023, all the sports, not just baseball, are flirting with the math.

[@billstein2]

"No baseball films"? Field of Dreams Bull Durham Love of the Game Sandlot League of Their Own My own five to start with. (Not saying they're the best baseball movies... just the first five that came to mind.)

[@rohan1970b]

I do like this movie (own it) but for your first baseball movie, imo there are many better baseball movies. The rookie, Field of Dreams, etc. To answer your question, the movie is based on fact. They do take liberties in the movie but it is based on a true story.

[@stonecoldku4161]

19:07 I wish they would've spent more time talking about the player they sent down to get Rincon. I forget the player's name but sending him back down to the minor league cost him big time. He was days, literally days away from having enough time in MLB to earn MLB's Player Pension Plan. Sending him down to the minor league still gave him a chance to make it back the MLB and finish the time needed to get the pension, but he never made it back. Bean knew this before sending him down. The full Pension Plan as it stands today is that if a player is in the MLB for 10 years of service time as soon as they end their career, they can start drawing from their pension which is around $7,500 a month, every month for the rest of their lives. If the player wishes to wait until they turn 62 years old to start drawing from their pension, the pension could top out to around an annual rate of $200,000 for the rest of their lives.

[@samuelmoulds1016]

aaah.... actually.... in real life, we don't know if Billy knew 'Mags' was days away from his pension benefits. you and I know it NOW because of sports reporting. but we don't know for sure Billy knew it at the time. now remember, Billy flew to Cleveland without any money in the beginning of the movie to get Rincon. Rincon was a homosexual. Billy was a homosexual. Billy's assistant, Pete gives this away in the movie when he says during the transaction, "Hardcore!" and Billy says, "Yeah."

[@jaredlackey9177]

Now you also have to watch Trouble With The Curve. It's very good too and is, in a lot of ways, a rebuttal to this movie.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@brendanlynch9694]

MIRACLE NEXT PLEASE

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Has been in a few polls on Patreon so far. Thanks for the suggestion

[@davehelms1398]

It is a great film, check out 'Bull Durham"

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Appreciate the suggestion Dave 🙏

[@hrg920]

I’d say 95% of this all happened having read the book

[@athens_1psvr31]

Draft Day.

[@joshsmith4512]

field of dreams awesome, for the love of the gamr also awesome. major leauge just funny as hell. money ball is prettu good. but " moneyball" in real life, ruined the game, yes true story, yes, bean is a real guy. dramatized sure, but true

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Field of dreams is coming to Patreon tomorrow 😀 I’ve heard Major league is really funny!

[@joshsmith4512]

​@@DNReactsShowtimeoh man its great.

[@orangeandblackattack]

Guys. Ive been in and around baseball for 50 years. This system will not win the WS. My San Francisco Giants won it with 15th/30 payroll..but we had chemistry. We won it in 2010, 2012 and 2014..never having a payroll over 10th outt of 30 teams. But it was never based on metrics, or metrics were used as AN input, but our manager made decisions based on his experience and we won. You cannot win based on stats because they do not account for the moment and all of the variables at that moment. Period.

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, I love your manager! I cheer for him in Texas! one of the GREATEST baseball minds around! I knew he was gunna take the Rangers to the World Series, but I didn't expect it to be SO SOON!

[@ergoat]

Unfortunately, in real life this past 2023 baseball season, Billy Beane and Oakland A's ownership more closely followed the plot to the movie "Major League" (1989) as opposed to Moneyball. As in, they got rid of all of their All-Star players, refused to buy any new talent, in order to purposefully lose and drive down home game attendance in a dastardly scheme to move the A's from Oakland to Las Vegas, betraying one of the most loyal fan bases in all of pro sports.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Yeah that’s such a sad end for Oakland 😭

[@samuelmoulds1016]

aaah.... actually.... Billy Beane left the A's years ago when the Commissioner of Major League Baseball Albert Seleg (not my 'bud') appointed him ambassador for Major League Baseball. since then, Billy has taken a job in soccer.

[@ergoat]

@@samuelmoulds1016Billy Beane is still a part of the 2024 Oakland A's Front Office as a Senior Advisor.

[@samuelmoulds1016]

@@ergoat thanks! AND Billy has a much more prestigious position with a European soccer club (I believe in England [or at least the UK]). I just discovered the club in Europe is owned (lock stock and barrel) by the same guy who owns the Boston Red Sox AND Billy had turned down for the General Managership of those same Boston Red Sox!! go figure. NOW, personally, I would think it unusual for the owner of a major league baseball team to own a European soccer team, but years ago I read, the owner of the Denver Broncos purchased a major European soccer team.

[@danielcurry1695]

I find baseball incredibly boring but this is one of my all time favorite movies.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Yeah you don’t have to be a fan to enjoy it!

[@cecilytubbs3766]

Have you watched Major League about the Indians?

[@jabbitt05]

And now the A's are breaking the hearts of romantic baseball fans by moving to Vegas. 😢

[@DNReactsShowtime]

It’s so sad for the fans that Oakland have seen all their major teams move away! Think I worked out it would be the equivalent of Liverpool FC moving to Portugal.

[@jabbitt05]

@@DNReactsShowtime Yeah. it's kinda far. They definitely won't be pulling anyone from CA to see them in Vegas. The relocation it's self has been a shit show. They don't even have a place to play from 2025-2028.

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, bummed me out! and I live in DAH U P of Michigan.

[@kidsontheblock2680]

It’s a true story but they left out alot of stuff

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Appreciate the context and comment 🙏

[@areguapiri]

Billy Bean is a master con artist. He and his teams have never won anything, but he wrote a book about how much he and his teams have won.

[@adeliabarnwell8621]

Read the book,way better.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Not a huge book reader, but I might actually buy this one as loved this movie and baseball in general

[@BeefPapa]

Very loosely based on the true story. Good movie nonetheless.

[@DNReactsShowtime]

Thank you, we appreciate the comment!

[@robtintelnot9107]

Life long A's fan and I'll never watch this movie again. They are leaving and I'm done. The Giants owners ruined the team staying in the Bay Area. So I'm fucking out.