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@KennBurch
@KennBurch 5 жыл бұрын
Alaistair and Owen have a wary-yet-weirdly-affectionate interpersonal dynamic going like they're an adult son and his non-custodial dad awkwardly trying to re-connect in some sort of comedy-drama film.
@woolcottable
@woolcottable 5 жыл бұрын
KennBurch SO true !
@Gotchaaaaaa
@Gotchaaaaaa 5 жыл бұрын
Spot on :)
@holeephuc007
@holeephuc007 4 жыл бұрын
They remind me of two sewer rats warily eyeing each other waiting to make the first strike.
@KennBurch
@KennBurch 4 жыл бұрын
Not where I was going with that-more a Jackie Gleason and Tom Hanks in NOTHING IN COMMON kind of vibe.
@hectorshouse7348
@hectorshouse7348 2 жыл бұрын
degenerates
@MrScotchpie
@MrScotchpie 7 жыл бұрын
For those complaining about Campbell's aggressive style, please remeber, Campbell was/is an old school journalist. A proper gumshoe who learnt his craft in the days before copy and paste Twitter feeds or Facebook posts. Back in the day, this is what journalism was like and what people expected. Jones just got a one on one masterclass in proper journalism that holds interviewees to account.
@garethmurray5901
@garethmurray5901 2 жыл бұрын
It's all nonsense. He just looks absolutely beautiful in an expensive suit and pinky tie.
@prosodyspeaks4036
@prosodyspeaks4036 Жыл бұрын
garbage. he behaves like a total arse. constantly interrupting, derailing, completely unable to have a conversation.
@rossgeography
@rossgeography Жыл бұрын
I just got to 24mins where Jones tries to shift the territory from being interrogated about what he truly thinks to the Iraq War and I just think the boy is a student union politician - the British public wants decent worker conditions but the idea that a Labour/Union movement is going to deliver not only that but security and prosperity is fanciful - as soon as Corbyn came out with the free-broadband idea (which had some merit then and now in the post-pandemic hybrid working world) I knew they were going to get a drumming.. the Corbyn hangover has lasted a long time but the truth is PR would be the thing to get 'done' for re-election as it looks like the public have finally woken up to the liars and cheats who promised everything but have dramatically failed thanks to UK’s diminished influence.
@paulgibbons2320
@paulgibbons2320 Жыл бұрын
Journalism, the least trusted and least respected trade in the world.
@christontrigwell5240
@christontrigwell5240 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree with you 👍
@stes9336
@stes9336 5 жыл бұрын
Season one Ollie interviews season four Malcolm
@stes9336
@stes9336 5 жыл бұрын
GamestA I wrote it before I realized Campbell was the interviewer 😂
@Uber_Hans
@Uber_Hans 3 жыл бұрын
Self-raising Lazarus interviews the beige power ranger
@martingriffiths9851
@martingriffiths9851 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely little time capsule of an interview...would love to see these two gentlemen sit down and have the same chat, now five years on.
@nathandrake5544
@nathandrake5544 2 жыл бұрын
There isn't much of a conversation to be had, considering everything that's happened in the last couple years with the current Labour leadership purging anyone who listens to Owen from the party
@Donnerbalken28
@Donnerbalken28 Жыл бұрын
@@nathandrake5544 Yes, because they are morons.
@MrXaphus
@MrXaphus 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not fan of Owen Jones, but he really does need to learn to be a bit tougher in interviews to intellectually stand up for himself if he wants to have any real influence. I lost count of the number of times he started to make a point and about 10 seconds in Campbell throws something different at him and his train of thought goes with the distraction point instead of sticking to the point the originally tried to make. Alastair Campbell is one of the most cunning masters of the media artform we've seen in modern times, so one really has to be a lot more combative on the little ground he concedes you when being interviewed by him (as frustrating or inconvenient as that is).
@nejuw
@nejuw 2 жыл бұрын
The left need to get tough.
@johnmulchins6300
@johnmulchins6300 2 жыл бұрын
@@nejuw Tories regularly shy away from these sort of debates let’s be real
@aha2551
@aha2551 2 жыл бұрын
...and there's the thing- true left people, are those with an active social conscience and generally concerned with all levels, or classes of people. Whereas right wing candidates tend to be grasping for power, and money 🤑, usually looking to set up kickbacks...- look at the ethos, ethics and focus of say Corbyn, to Johnson. So it's simplistic to say that the left are not tough enough; even though I can see you have a point within the awful combatative 'scoring' of points and dependent on how connected / supported by or vilified against by the press one's stance is. I imagine I sound naive to some, but I have known leadership and it doesn't seek power & the lack of genuine leadership has allowed the greedy organised grown up children to run the country like an asylum, and is threatening the extinction of life itself through climate change and ignorance of the necessity of environmental harmony. It's the political set up that requires change, not the left and I hate to say it but probably proportional representation between the left & right, with Equal power might serve the greater populace better than the 'lords & barons' who only seek personal wealth and power for only their own.
@dansplans86
@dansplans86 2 жыл бұрын
Owen uses 1000 words when 10 would do, Campbell ran rings around him, and he got proved right...
@antispindr8613
@antispindr8613 5 ай бұрын
So how much longer will the mates of Tony continue to use dodgy evidence/line of 'reasoning' to sex up their case?
@SigChi725
@SigChi725 7 жыл бұрын
You're 32?! I thought you were 22 tops. Keep up that skin care regimen.
@mixlemuff971
@mixlemuff971 4 жыл бұрын
@@drp.c.7543 Really? Share me a tutorial please :)
@tdtvegas
@tdtvegas 4 жыл бұрын
When you don't work for a living. Why do you think the royal family lives so long?…
@dommidavros2211
@dommidavros2211 3 жыл бұрын
15 more like! Surely this kid's still in school!
@tonybenn7692
@tonybenn7692 2 жыл бұрын
🤮🤮🤮
@tobylerone4285
@tobylerone4285 9 ай бұрын
He’s peng now. Still a knob though sadly
@GavinHitchens
@GavinHitchens 7 жыл бұрын
this is brilliant, great seeing an exchange in this way between very different lefties without it descending into name calling etc.
@peteradaniel
@peteradaniel 7 жыл бұрын
Gavin Hitchens Ironically, your avatar is Morrissey, who's shown more support towards the right, then anything else.
@GavinHitchens
@GavinHitchens 7 жыл бұрын
Alex Daniel That's true, I just love his music.
@redemrys5342
@redemrys5342 7 жыл бұрын
Shut Up
@simonvalsler4778
@simonvalsler4778 7 жыл бұрын
Gavin Hitchens Alistair Campbell a Leftie???????? FFS!!!!!!!!!
@ally11488
@ally11488 7 жыл бұрын
Gavin Hitchens Alistair Campbell is about as left wing as George Osborne.
@proo560
@proo560 Жыл бұрын
There’s being naive & there’s being Owen Jones - everything that Campbell said came true!
@antispindr8613
@antispindr8613 5 ай бұрын
Well someone would certainly need to suspend any kind of thinking to believe Campbell when it come to the Iraq War. For whatever happened to the Weapons of Mass Destruction?
@Tullyj07
@Tullyj07 7 жыл бұрын
Alastair Campbell, no matter what you think of him, is still to this day an incredible spin doctor. That is evidenced by this discussion.
@jake751
@jake751 2 жыл бұрын
Tell that to the 1 million innocent Iraqis family. He is a war criminal who is the lowest of the low. No wonder he has depression.
@boulevard14
@boulevard14 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how this video shows this
@nectarinedreams7208
@nectarinedreams7208 2 жыл бұрын
Being an incredible spin doctor very much informs what I think of him.
@Setinmywaysalways
@Setinmywaysalways Жыл бұрын
Yes Spin
@johnaddis528
@johnaddis528 Жыл бұрын
Josef Goebels too, no compliment there
@turkey232
@turkey232 7 жыл бұрын
It's just so nice to see two men really listening to each other, you know?
@TheEthanWadsworth
@TheEthanWadsworth 7 жыл бұрын
This is like a dad trying to explain the real world to his son that just got back from uni.
@RobertHo987
@RobertHo987 6 жыл бұрын
haha yes, and Campbell takes it quite well too;)
@robn973
@robn973 5 жыл бұрын
Dads aren’t right about everything :-)
@justininfrance
@justininfrance 5 жыл бұрын
Except here it's the son who is explaining the real world to his reactionary dad.
@estebancomulet
@estebancomulet 5 жыл бұрын
And been brainwashed by ‘neo-Marxist’ lecturers inculcating him with the merits of trans-fluid microaggressions. 😂😂 as Jordan Petersen would hysterically whine lol
@rippedtorn2310
@rippedtorn2310 5 жыл бұрын
'' real world '' = just accept that rich white english people run society for their benefit and as such have mastered divide and rule tactics ,amongst others, over us . Nah man there's many more of us and we can run this .
@MRLUCCH
@MRLUCCH 4 жыл бұрын
Owen ‘we live in country where’ Jones
@richardsmith9038
@richardsmith9038 5 жыл бұрын
Kudos to both for taking part in this. A real conversation between two people on the left - I thought those days were over.....
@jamesherold8655
@jamesherold8655 5 жыл бұрын
thats how they earn their money i wonder what they charged for the interview stand for parliament if they want change
@ivorbiggun710
@ivorbiggun710 4 жыл бұрын
They are now. Thank god.
@laurameszaros9547
@laurameszaros9547 5 жыл бұрын
Alastair Campbell is quite right - Owen is scared to say what he really thinks.
@barrywbaker
@barrywbaker 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent conversation. They engage without antagonism and test each other with a large measure of mutual respect.
@bombsiteweed1
@bombsiteweed1 7 жыл бұрын
Owen Jones looks terrified in this interview and he can't seem to express his opinions without a hell of a lot of waffling. Whatever you think of Alastair Campbell he is articulate and concise. While he does have a bad habit of interrupting, I think one part of that is frustration at Owen Jones' inarticulateness. The end result is that the dialogue struggles to get going. This is a shame as I would like to see what these two really have to say to each other.
@bombsiteweed1
@bombsiteweed1 7 жыл бұрын
It gets a bit better towards the end
@hungrydave1977
@hungrydave1977 5 жыл бұрын
Hilarious listening to this in hindsight. And Cambell learnt nothing from 2017
@daveruda
@daveruda 5 жыл бұрын
And how wrong he was. These Blairites are so full of themselves despite failing Britain and the world.
@sortedm
@sortedm 4 жыл бұрын
At least they could win elections - unlike Daddy Corbyn and his bum chum Owen.
@killytoo
@killytoo 4 жыл бұрын
Owen reads a book and tried to find the answer to life’s problems but fell short as he has no real life experience to use as balance
@bencrocket1284
@bencrocket1284 5 жыл бұрын
Owen Jones made Alastair Campbell look likeable. A truly astonishing feat.
@henridobbs2423
@henridobbs2423 5 жыл бұрын
Losers always dislike winners.
@bencrocket1284
@bencrocket1284 5 жыл бұрын
@@henridobbs2423 Is that why Corbynistas hate Blair?
@ivorbiggun710
@ivorbiggun710 4 жыл бұрын
@Do what you must, I have already won I hate her for what she did to the World.
@MrRooibos123
@MrRooibos123 4 жыл бұрын
@@bencrocket1284 😂
@pab777
@pab777 4 жыл бұрын
This chap sums up Labour. College politics.Abdication from the working man.This is Momentum for you..
@zeddeka
@zeddeka 3 жыл бұрын
You're clearly not English. We don't call it "college"
@danielpercival7498
@danielpercival7498 3 жыл бұрын
@@zeddeka we call college college It still works
@lummix6
@lummix6 7 жыл бұрын
No Fan of Campbell but interesting discussion, we need more intelligent debate in politics, whether you agree with them or not.
@andyenglish7928
@andyenglish7928 5 жыл бұрын
Well you certainly won't get sensible debate listening to these pair of broomheads
@morzee94
@morzee94 Жыл бұрын
If it weren’t for the baggage that comes with his name, there isn’t one political movement who wouldn’t want Alastair Campbell to run a campaign for them. Even as an interviewer he’s driving home his own message more convincingly than the interviewee!
@llever888
@llever888 7 жыл бұрын
why does it feel like a teacher having a sit down with his student
@johnking5174
@johnking5174 7 жыл бұрын
Alistair with those glasses on and staring at Owen just looks like it, you are so right. I have met Alistair, he is a very intimidating man when you are with him in real life.
@llever888
@llever888 7 жыл бұрын
Jon T not too mention the camera angles don't help
@snapsnap6220
@snapsnap6220 5 жыл бұрын
llever for a job interview
@jameselder1103
@jameselder1103 5 жыл бұрын
llever because it is. Owen is a 30 year old boy and alastair is a somewhat interesting intelligent person
@daveruda
@daveruda 5 жыл бұрын
@@jameselder1103 Neoliberal that is part of the problem.
@rogermatthews1920
@rogermatthews1920 7 жыл бұрын
Alastair Campbell asks clear, if slightly abrupt, questions, and Owen Jones rambles on about stuff. Owen constantly makes assumptions about Alastair Campbell's politics and positions, without being able to define them in any way when asked directly. Either he has a clear agenda to avoid answering the questions directly, or he just isn't very good at clear, logical thinking. Campbell may have a shady past, but this interview shows that he can think clearly and understands how to get to the core of an issue concisely. People here are accusing Campbell of interrupting him and not allowing him to reply, but in reality, Campbell is reactive and makes assertions to promote the conversation, and Owen often interprets this as a personal slight with an agenda, bristles and loses his train of thought. This interview has improved my view of Campbell and, unfortunately, made Owen Jones appear to be less of a political thinker than I had previously thought.
@scotty686
@scotty686 7 жыл бұрын
I met Campbell once - the guy is so quick witted you feel like a complete idiot. Jones is an intellectual lightweight, and he's starting to realise it. It's why he avoided debating Douglas Murray - he knew he'd have got flattened.
@henridobbs2423
@henridobbs2423 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you i'm no where near as loquacious as this, couldn't put what I wanted to say into words that effectively describe the inadequacies of Owen Jones. As soon as he mentioned the Iraq war in answer to his question you knew he had lost the debate. He is nothing more than a guardian journalist too scared of the reaction he will get amongst his hareem of twitter followers (rightly earned at times) to say how he really feels and a man without the BALLS! to truly get stuck into politics but would rather sit on the sidelines and feather his own nest.
@fasteddyuk
@fasteddyuk 7 жыл бұрын
Campbell starts by sticking his middle finger up at Jones. This is not an intellectual heavyweight. He's just a deeply unpleasant individual.
@fasteddyuk
@fasteddyuk 7 жыл бұрын
No. The Iraq War is central to the Left's vilification of Blair. It can't be overstated.
@henridobbs2423
@henridobbs2423 7 жыл бұрын
Regardless of the fact if he is unpleasant you can not deny the man has talent in the communications industry. Himself and his communications team perpetuated a lot of good for the poor and their legacy will forever be tarnished by the Iraq war.
@lukeonbass101
@lukeonbass101 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome to watch. Well done both of you, and thanks!
@WildTribeAU
@WildTribeAU 5 жыл бұрын
Love this interview, Campbell doesn’t allow Owen to do his usual trick of talking around the subject rather than just answering the question. I actually like Owen Jones too but his inability to answer direct questions is so frustrating!
@ivorbiggun710
@ivorbiggun710 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly because he doesn't have an answers.
@MrWizzard411
@MrWizzard411 7 жыл бұрын
Alastair did an excellent job with this interview. The points that he makes with Owen are great. Owen just needs to listen.
@maesde
@maesde 3 жыл бұрын
The kid gets frustrated quickly. I think that's a mark of the generation, whenever you get challenged you get frustrated and start saying things like "you don't let me finish when he is obviously talking way more than the other party. These people would have been ants 30 years ago, nobody would have taken them seriously. The wonders of modern social media.
@politikfutura2326
@politikfutura2326 6 жыл бұрын
Campbell is right, Labour knocking the Labour party has made a huge difference. The media consistently do that together with the Tories and unless there is a voice out there somewhere to tell people this isn't so, in time the vast majority just start to believe it and this allows a new "truth" to be written.
@D4n1t0o
@D4n1t0o 5 жыл бұрын
As a Centrist Liberal, not a Labour voter, Alastair is far more terrifying when it comes to a race for power.
@ufknwotfam5449
@ufknwotfam5449 7 жыл бұрын
I can't help but like Campbell. Is it just me?? :(
@sgordon8123
@sgordon8123 7 жыл бұрын
yes it is just you
@richyrichmountain
@richyrichmountain 7 жыл бұрын
Fitemem8 Psychopaths can be very charming
@ufknwotfam5449
@ufknwotfam5449 7 жыл бұрын
haha fair enough
@ZzonkedMCFC
@ZzonkedMCFC 7 жыл бұрын
He is charismatic and very laddish. He is also a very effective communicator, comes off as honest, direct and very sure of himself. It's easy to fall for those superficial elements. There's no reason to hate the human being, but I think we can be very critical of what he did to British politics.
@SauqinaR
@SauqinaR 7 жыл бұрын
me too
@Vince135792009
@Vince135792009 3 жыл бұрын
Part 3 badly needed.
@The_McRib
@The_McRib 7 жыл бұрын
Their methods of debate are so different. Campbell is incredibly terse and Jones is really thorough. It almost sounds more like an interrogation than a discussion.
@HomemadeBrownies1
@HomemadeBrownies1 3 жыл бұрын
The difference of course being Campbell has been repeatedly proven to be right - both by winning elections and predicting corbyn defeats. Jones doesn’t know what is effective in the UK
@chrisbovington9607
@chrisbovington9607 7 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see them meet again now after the 2017 election.
@ossyable
@ossyable 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Bovington or better still after 2019 😂
@moochoman9948
@moochoman9948 4 жыл бұрын
dmotorhead was thinking, ‘how badly has this comment aged?’ 😂
@chemicalqueen5460
@chemicalqueen5460 4 жыл бұрын
Even better after the 2019; Corbynism, my part in its downfall by Owen Jones.
@smdutton
@smdutton Жыл бұрын
Or now… when centre left politics is now grossly needed.
@tayetrotman
@tayetrotman 2 жыл бұрын
This interview is really interesting, two branches of the left in a civil conversation, but also incredibly frustrating because I think Campbell and Jones’ style of conversation clashes horribly. Campbell is very aggressive, he likes to be prompt and to-the-point, whereas Jones is a lot more relaxed. As a result I think Campbell feels like Jones is waffling, and Jones feels like Campbell isn’t letting him speak.
@KennBurch
@KennBurch 2 жыл бұрын
After he campaigned for the LibDems against Corbyn's Labour, Campbell forfeited any right to claim to be ANY part of "the left". And he is heavily involved in Keir Starmer's project to remove all vestiges of socialism- when there is nothing to the right of socialism that could ever be worth doing for the Labour Party- and all socialists-there is no such thing as a socialist who supports Keir Starmer's changes to what the party stands for, and nothing socialist that can possibly be done by a Starmer Government- something Keir admitted by having Rachel Reeves pledged the party to "pro-business economics" (i.e., Thatcherism).
@Icanbacktrailers
@Icanbacktrailers 11 ай бұрын
Jones has far too much confidences. It’s embarrassing
@tayetrotman
@tayetrotman 11 ай бұрын
@@Icanbacktrailers He’s always had a chip on his shoulder tbh, though I’ve never been sure if he’s playing it up to get a rise out of others or just arrogant. Either way, I don’t like how he conducts himself personally.
@MrArchie800
@MrArchie800 7 жыл бұрын
I’m no Campbell fan but Labour need people like him regardless of whether you agree with him or not. He goes straight to the point - or for the jugular as some might say, (might be why he was so obviously useful in his day). The way I see it is this; Campbell and his ilk are not the problem, but rather the fact that the Labour ‘great and good’ have absolutely no answer for the hard-nosed scrutiny that people like Campbell bring, they are left floundering. Even Owen Jones, who we all know is sharp as a pin, and a decent debater, is nevertheless reduced to platitudes in answer to direct questions. Show me a Labour leader who can win a down and dirty debate with Campbell and you might find a potential leader who has half a chance of winning an election! If you’re a lefty then you should not be insulting Campbell (so many stupid childish insults), rather you should be begging your party to employ him to start toughening people up!
@Robo94100
@Robo94100 4 жыл бұрын
'You've come into this interview with a view of what I believe'.... goes on to tell Campbell what he believes.
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 7 жыл бұрын
Ball possession: Campbell - 2,5 sec.; Jones - 48 hrs.
@adamgibson7181
@adamgibson7181 3 жыл бұрын
And yet Campbell won 10-0
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamgibson7181 But the Queen is dead.
@OUTBOUND184
@OUTBOUND184 7 жыл бұрын
Fascinating to see them touch on the rise of Populism and totally misunderstand why it has happened. In their eyes, they are never to blame.
@cultureclashmusicvideo4545
@cultureclashmusicvideo4545 5 жыл бұрын
Odi et Amo Educate me. Why is Owen Jones to blame for the rise in populism?
@ivorbiggun710
@ivorbiggun710 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing is ever the fault of the Left, even when there's a Tory landslide.
@stephenhardman6142
@stephenhardman6142 7 жыл бұрын
Having said that, it turned out in the end to have been an entertaining, (if not very informative), interview, with Owen Jones even putting Campbell on the spot a few times. If only the Labour Party could combine the marketing and oratory of Blair, the unity of Team GB, and a dash of the integrity of Corbyn, they could once again take the reigns of power from the Tories.
@chrisreeves9764
@chrisreeves9764 4 жыл бұрын
This period of reflection ain't going well. Jones is such a lightweight
@bobdigi500
@bobdigi500 4 жыл бұрын
And who do you think you are? Superman?
@Viewingpublic08
@Viewingpublic08 7 жыл бұрын
GQ - as with the Tony Blair interview, the audio here is terrible. Please sort it out so we can hear these interesting conversations properly.
@josephtomlinson3662
@josephtomlinson3662 4 жыл бұрын
“I hate to talk about myself”. Proceeds to talk about himself for an hour.
@liamdevine8063
@liamdevine8063 4 жыл бұрын
You managed to miss the bulk of this interview where he talks about politics, corbyn, ideology, recent history etc. lol. The thing about the observation which you have tried to peel from Campbell (which failed when he made it too) is that Jones is very clearly not the typical megalomaniac who nowadays populate modern politics (e.g. Campbell). He can't even look Campbell in the eye ffs. Ironically this attempt at 'observation' highlights your complete misunderstanding of what Jones is in relation to society. He is defined by the rise of social media and other information sharing technologies which have allowed a very intelligent and well thought yet comparably (to Campbell) egoless individual to rise to prominence as a representative of significant group of people.
@yonderorphan7499
@yonderorphan7499 4 жыл бұрын
@@liamdevine8063 you have to be joking. The fella is a complete narcissist.
@fishjj76
@fishjj76 4 жыл бұрын
@@liamdevine8063 What I found fascinating is that Owen Jones wants to be a champion of the left and is constantly agonising about how this interview with "Tony Blair's spin doctor" will be perceived by his supporters. He refuses to say that Tony Blair has been the best Labour leader since Kinnock. Rather than say Tony Blair has been the best Prime Minister since Wilson he changes the question to say "most effective Prime Minister" so he could put Thatcher above Blair and then avoided ranking Corbyn at all.
@nathanbrown5709
@nathanbrown5709 4 жыл бұрын
Owen Jones is the first man ever to make Alistair Campbell seem likeable
@Alec_Collins78
@Alec_Collins78 5 жыл бұрын
You can never be too loud, gents. Turn up the volume!
@Secular_Scot
@Secular_Scot 7 жыл бұрын
ALASTAIR CAMPBELL I DARE YOU TO CONDUCT A SIMILAR INTERVIEW WITH SEAMUS MILNE.
@robs2063
@robs2063 7 жыл бұрын
Secular Scot Just look up a video of a lion playing with its prey, same situation.
@dangoodbad1951
@dangoodbad1951 7 жыл бұрын
You are Alistair Campbell and I claim my £5.
@robs2063
@robs2063 7 жыл бұрын
Seamus pls leave
@korruptnovellst4751
@korruptnovellst4751 7 жыл бұрын
why ?
@colinbaker3916
@colinbaker3916 5 жыл бұрын
John Wilson His name is actually Seumas Milne. If you Google him, you’ll find a lot there. He’s Corbyn’s equivalent of Alastair Campbell or Bernard Ingham. The reason he’s far less well known is because the other two served Prime Ministers.
@salfordguy69
@salfordguy69 7 жыл бұрын
The problem is Owen believes in the concept of left and right. It doesn't exist to the general public in 2017. He is the traditional middle class warbler who is focused on ideology and not the realities of everyday life that affect "working class" people. Even that concept doesn't exist anymore. Campbell knows how things works and how to play the game and most importantly how to win. The very least he knows how to present a coherent punchy agenda which people can either agree with or not.
@robertwill23
@robertwill23 7 жыл бұрын
working class doesn't exist? LOL. That's ideology in itself that there is no right or left positions. It's just defining of the certain positions - as it happens since French Revolution. You still have to define your positions and principles under certain umbrella term. Otherwise, it's total confusion. Even if you are to dump left or right, you have to use another definitions of your position on certain issues. General public don't care but "left and right spectrum" is useful for politicians or activists and political historians. They just have to propose their position on issues as attractive and beneficial to public without mentioning "left or right".
@salfordguy69
@salfordguy69 7 жыл бұрын
Paxman said of American politics it has been redefined as "winners and losers"
@badgershands
@badgershands 7 жыл бұрын
Like a father schooling a son whose just finished his first year at uni.
@MattWilsonToday
@MattWilsonToday 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating! Also very revealing of differing mindsets and approaches between the generations.
@ethanwebb6162
@ethanwebb6162 4 жыл бұрын
I've recently read "Start With Why" and "The Infinite Game" and they prefectly highlight how Owen Jones has no idea what makes a successful movement. Already 5 mins in and he has violated the rules of what makes a just cause
@belindamay8063
@belindamay8063 7 ай бұрын
Jones is part of the aristocracy of the Far-left. Just as disdainful, obdurate, and self-preening as the.monarchs courtiers and High-Priests of the past. They admit no criticism. They confer resounding honours on the showy followers who please them - whether they have earned their prominence or not, and no matter what the public think. They live in their own little world and they will crush anybody in order to preserve it. That siege mentality will bring us all down. As one of the Hard Left once said to me after a crucial Labour defeat - “Winning isn’t everything”.
@Pistolpetebeno
@Pistolpetebeno 7 жыл бұрын
Would've been easier to enjoy if it weren't for Campbell interrupting half way through Jones' answers every single time.
@belindamay8063
@belindamay8063 Жыл бұрын
@Peter-uk. Jones answers were a jumble of unsupported assertions, going off at a tangent. That works well when you’re talking to your mates. But the public don’t want it and can’t use it.
@Natural_law_lawyer
@Natural_law_lawyer 3 жыл бұрын
Campbell instantly shows that he is far more intelligent and realistic than owen. The massive lack of preparation, perception and knowledge going into the interview is farcically. The fact that Campbell is actually trying to help owen with how he is acting and owen rejecting it, is somewhat amusinng.
@SoozUK
@SoozUK 7 жыл бұрын
This makes for VERY interesting viewing now!
@ivorbiggun710
@ivorbiggun710 4 жыл бұрын
Even more interesting now. Quite amusing too.
@maggiehari9982
@maggiehari9982 7 жыл бұрын
always talk. whatever your views, keep talking! Very important people.
@londonresist9130
@londonresist9130 7 жыл бұрын
This is great! Love it. I'd like them to do this again.
@Harryharryharry9
@Harryharryharry9 7 жыл бұрын
it didn't take long for this exchange to age terribly did it
@jtb9751
@jtb9751 Жыл бұрын
Alastair Campbell is legend
@alloallo1000
@alloallo1000 7 жыл бұрын
What a naive baby Owen Jones is. And what sort of "intellectual" doesn't answer questions because he's scared of upsetting his fans?
@dannysmith8917
@dannysmith8917 4 жыл бұрын
A naive baby that is a published author, writes for a national news paper and appears tv. What do you, slag him off you tube comments. Whey to make an impact mate
@alloallo1000
@alloallo1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@dannysmith8917 *way
@ianosborne188
@ianosborne188 4 жыл бұрын
Half His collar hanging out😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
@MrRooibos123
@MrRooibos123 4 жыл бұрын
It's a bit like that scene in Jurassic World where they drop the goat in the T-Rex pen.
@frankiebarrettrules
@frankiebarrettrules 7 жыл бұрын
28:27 Owen finally says what we've all been thinking
@andyenglish7928
@andyenglish7928 5 жыл бұрын
We've all been thinking owen and the other broomhead opposite knows nothing about working people,did he say anything like that ,perhaps they've been drinking too much champagne again
@Ingens_Scherz
@Ingens_Scherz 5 жыл бұрын
One expert liar eviscerating a less expert one.
@user-bq5bu2yi8c
@user-bq5bu2yi8c 7 жыл бұрын
28 minutes in Campbell even asks jones if hes thought about growing up hilarious
@sharpey2006
@sharpey2006 7 жыл бұрын
Great speech. Owen really, really doesn't like upsetting the left of the Labour Party...yet he has. The fact he's right on Corbyn is lost on them, of course.
@shaundstone
@shaundstone 3 жыл бұрын
This is OUTSTANDING from both guys. AWESOME!
@mango4ttwo635
@mango4ttwo635 7 жыл бұрын
there should be a rematch interview. would be q fascinating
@kingkonut
@kingkonut 7 жыл бұрын
why does it cut off there at the end like it wasn't finished? good job gq next time don't just get the interns to do it
@smiths121
@smiths121 7 жыл бұрын
Well as a Blarite (I know boooh), this video actually made we go and watch Owen Jones channel - I hope he has a bright future in journalism ahead. A little bit of circling to begin with - though Mr Campbell came on a little strong. But I thought it was a good debate, particularly towards the end - where both shared their views.
@redfield1007
@redfield1007 6 жыл бұрын
Owen Jones is too emotional for debate. He always looks seconds away from snapping and going home to his parents.
@chemicalqueen5460
@chemicalqueen5460 4 жыл бұрын
He asked for a “safe space”, the broom cupboard is always out of shot
@amitbanerjee2584
@amitbanerjee2584 4 жыл бұрын
Jones looks like an naive school kid.
@jonathaneffemey944
@jonathaneffemey944 Жыл бұрын
Thaks for posting.
@Gotchaaaaaa
@Gotchaaaaaa 5 жыл бұрын
Two guys telling each other what each other things for nearly an hour. Really productive. Thanks world.
@sjdurbs
@sjdurbs 3 жыл бұрын
You know you are in the wrong party when you are scared of speaking honestly. The guy literally said "i'm scared of what I say because I don't want it to be damaging to what I believe in". Oh my. Wake up.
@thomassteele5748
@thomassteele5748 7 жыл бұрын
Corbon's policies were "like changing at a door made out of titanium and it turned out it was made of paper." That resonated with me.
@SparkyP
@SparkyP 3 жыл бұрын
'alright' as an introduction and late for the interview. Super professional as always owen.
@belindamay8063
@belindamay8063 Жыл бұрын
@sparky. That was done to impress his mates. Politeness is subservience. It’s important to be cheeky. Shows you’re not scared.
@henman09
@henman09 7 жыл бұрын
It's like a literal Battle of the Bellends.
@NibberKSmooth
@NibberKSmooth 3 жыл бұрын
No idea what Owen is waffling about; Alistair wanted concise answers and all he got was a historical referenced waffle which went nowhere.
@jamesbottomley2596
@jamesbottomley2596 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting looking back at this to see how right Campbell was and how wrong Jones was about the UK electoral chances for a Corbynite party.
@ibenzawla
@ibenzawla 7 жыл бұрын
A matured conversation that is badly needed in America.
@paulknipe4414
@paulknipe4414 5 жыл бұрын
Owen never comes across very well when he talks to grown ups
@anotherbloodyfeminist3272
@anotherbloodyfeminist3272 7 жыл бұрын
it wasn't because of timing it was because the book is fantastic.
@Bjarku
@Bjarku 3 жыл бұрын
I really tried to enjoy this but Owen Jones is so dull. He just loves to drone on and loves the sound of his own voice and it’s so boring.
@thelitterbug7624
@thelitterbug7624 7 жыл бұрын
1st, I agree massively with Gavin Hitchens' comment. 2nd Owen, it is so nice to see you speaking and thinking more openly, I still think it's silly when you (understandably) don't want to openly criticise Corbin, but based on the recent reaction of certain sections of social media, I understand. 3rd When is the next Owen Jones Q&A?
@DerekKingLtd
@DerekKingLtd 7 жыл бұрын
25:31 typical of the far left to just abdicate responsibility when they can't form a coherent argument
@patcampton9799
@patcampton9799 3 жыл бұрын
He isnt far left.
@RobinHarris-nf4yv
@RobinHarris-nf4yv 4 ай бұрын
@@patcampton9799 he is
@tehpluto3594
@tehpluto3594 Ай бұрын
30:10 "a ridiculous tie by the way" tickled me
@marcadams440
@marcadams440 4 жыл бұрын
Owen "I don't want to say anything that hurts the left" every thing you say hurts the left. You are the personification of woke, progressivism.
@namelessnobody7611
@namelessnobody7611 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, saying this as a denizen of the centre-left.
@Winnie689
@Winnie689 4 жыл бұрын
"… let me finish…' He's been listening to grown-ups talking.
@edwardbarbour5139
@edwardbarbour5139 7 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna take your words and put them on the paper" said the guy who's altered documents lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths. Good old Alastair Campbell! Hope you can sleep at night buddy
@JoshDRivia4
@JoshDRivia4 3 жыл бұрын
His first sentence immediately switched me off, Alastair asked a simple question "Who's they?" and he went off a tangent. When you speak in general too often you don't find your point whatever it may be comes across.
@cliveparkinson3536
@cliveparkinson3536 5 жыл бұрын
You would have thought that New Labour pragmatism might involve being open to the possibility that Corbynism might be an appropriate strategy for the current populist age; hard to see how slagging him off in the media is a pragmatic solution to anything
@chrislane5305
@chrislane5305 4 жыл бұрын
CAN I FINISH, CAN I FINISH, WILL YOU LET ME FINISH....ok I'm finished
@johntudorhallelujah2976
@johntudorhallelujah2976 7 жыл бұрын
very nauseating
@richardclark6113
@richardclark6113 7 жыл бұрын
Alastair Campbell is leading and clearly the more competent one in this interview.
@robertwilson214
@robertwilson214 2 жыл бұрын
Are you on drugs..
@unexpectederror9470
@unexpectederror9470 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best video on KZbin to watch if you want to lose the maximum amount of brain cells in the shortest time possible.
@robertliddington6927
@robertliddington6927 2 жыл бұрын
Great interview but alistair Campbell is streets ahead of him
@REALASUNDER
@REALASUNDER 7 жыл бұрын
i find it weird how everyone in the comments is so polar on thesr two people. they both have valid points from different backrounds and contexts. appreicate both of these people. they are both thinkers in thier own right.
@ahnhenden
@ahnhenden 7 жыл бұрын
I actually really enjoyed this.
@MrJamesPaylor
@MrJamesPaylor 7 жыл бұрын
Gheez Alastair Campbell is irritating! Let the guy speak!
@jamesrogers9887
@jamesrogers9887 7 жыл бұрын
Owen is CONSTANTLY speaking. Campbell barely gets a word in...
@simpliace.2875
@simpliace.2875 7 жыл бұрын
um ur, ah , um , um , what i mean is, um , er, , but but, um, Owen needs someone to help him speak sometimes, he rambled so much in this one!
@kathybramley5609
@kathybramley5609 6 жыл бұрын
GQ - give these proper subtitles,
@McMedia11
@McMedia11 7 жыл бұрын
what about scotland? Or are we an afterthought?
@FlavourlessLife
@FlavourlessLife 7 жыл бұрын
The best way to deal with a petulant child is to ignore it until it starts acting sensibly again.
@MontyCantsin5
@MontyCantsin5 2 жыл бұрын
@Awaiting Input: That’s exactly why Scotland largely ignores Westminster politics and votes for a party that is seeking independence.
@YolondaHayes
@YolondaHayes 7 жыл бұрын
Campbell knows exactly what he's talking about.
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