The No 1, Mk III*, Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield (SMLE): Musketry of 1914 -PART TWO- PrelimTraining

Part Two of the series, we'll discuss some of the preliminary training, training aides, targetry, and the use of miniature and 30 yards ranges.
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[@vonsprague7913]

DRINK D-designate (target); R-range; I-indicate (position); N-number of rounds; K-kind of fire (rapid, 3 rounds, etc.). One of the best videos of this type I have ever seen! You brightened my morning coffee with your hard work on the comprehensive detail of this film. Thanks Rob

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Never heard of that acronym... American?

[@vonsprague7913]

@@britishmuzzleloaders British Rob

[@alespice50]

you're split screen work was phenomenal on that intro...i love the little blasphemy after the incoming round..bustling with shovel" jesus"...good show sir

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thanks!

[@mpersad]

Just outstanding! I'm lost for words at the professionalism of your work, better than a lot of stuff on TV here in the UK, and I really mean that!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you Mark. If you are unaware, this video is part of a series on Musketry of 1914. There are 6 other published parts with one more in the wings....

[@eddybingo5871]

Love the intro

[@wierdalien1]

Orson Welles high praise from the God of cinema

[@string-bag]

High praise indeed:)

[@kurtvanduran7725]

Orson Welles Rose bud

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Glad you found it to your liking. Cheers.

[@MrPh30]

britishmuzzleloaders A great pdf file on the .303 in Africa r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9mSs3M_UA9ZpSEA83d53xg5;_ylu=X3oDMTBycDZicmtuBGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwM2BHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1494204608/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.nitroexpress.info%2fubbthreads%2fphotos_info%2f201001%2f303inAfrica.pdf/RK=0/RS=Sh4zuAKFgY.W9od8KPnHJ5rf8v4-

[@batickell]

New britishmuzzleloaders video? Today's a good day!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Glad to have had something to do with your good day, then!! :-) Thank you!

[@SumoKevin]

How don't you have 1 million subscribers. You are very talented keep up the good work.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

You kind sentiments are appreciated. Thank you.

[@TheBigChinaGamer]

"This is gonna be important really soon!"

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Yes it was!...

[@wierdalien1]

britishmuzzleloaders classically british understatment.

[@ulfpe]

Serious nurd! The detail and enthusiasm is at the higest level.

[@Sheerwater909]

Outstanding yet again. Informative, educational and entertaining, the BBC should beware the onward march of britishmuzzleloaders. I wouldn't be too unhappy were you to take over the airwaves of the UK with presentations of this calibre (303).

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

He who puns....

[@dmw1262]

Excellent! As a former Marksmanship Coordinator at the Battalion and Brigade level, I can say that your attention to detail in both the preparation and execution of these videos is of the highest professional standard.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you Mike. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@samcoupland]

bloody brilliant video, thank you! more!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you!

[@MagicPortal]

This is English discipline at its finest. Good job to you sir!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Only one thing better than "English discipline",..... Canadian..... :-)

[@sammay9699]

MagicPortal unless its French Canadian! jk.

[@pmjn0943]

Yet another great video, really interesting, brings back memories of when I trained on the Enfield no4 rifle as a Cadet back in the 70s as a teenager

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Glad you enjoyed it Paul! Cheers.

[@minuteman4199]

I remember doing TOETs on Indoor miniature ranges in the '80's and shooting at figure 11 and figure 12 targets. We had no idea we were carrying on a system in use since pre WW1.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Cool, eh?

[@xeverettx2564]

Yes I agree with Kevin1860! This channel is so informative and entertaining. If you’re a fan of history and documentaries and firearms you can’t go wrong with this channel!! Everytime I sit down to watch this channel every couple of months I end up watching for hours. It draws me in like crazy. Well done ol’ bhoy!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you kindly !

[@skepticalbadger]

Fantastic rotating pan on that elevated/aerial shot. Great view of the weapon in use.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

The drone stuff is a work in progress... I am trying different things every time I'm out. Cheers.

[@mattarmstrong9205]

Great video Rob, I had no idea that pre war musketry training was as intensive or extensive as this. We've all heard the BEF 1914 rifle ability legends, this series of videos clears up some of the mystic behind those legends and explains to us why, and how they were able to be as proficient as they were. An invaluable historical lesson for us all interested in the topic. Great job!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

More mystique "clearing up" to come my friend... :-).... Glad you found it enjoyable Matt. Cheers.

[@steamengineshooray]

Interesting to learn about the 30 yard ranges :D

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Glad there was something that was of interest!

[@bt7180]

The quality of your videos is truly exeptjonal

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you very much!

[@vitoj568]

Very professional training guide. Thanks for share.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@mikeryan9479]

Hi Rob, thanks for getting back in touch so soon. I will give the larger mold a try first and then I might try some different brands of gas check. I am using Hornady and they seem to fit well but I've been told by a fellow shooting friend that Lyman brand gas check crimp better in the luber-sizing die !? So worth a try. Not sure about the filler ? Worth further reading on. As for velocity, the two loads I've been playing with are: 20grains 2400 -AV 1760 / 14 grains unique-AV 1533. Thanks for help, further experimenting needed and range time ! Look forward to that next video. Mike Ryan

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Do let me know how you get on. Always interested in other approaches!.. Cheers.

[@timringer239]

Fantastic video, brilliantly explained. Sometimes it can be difficult trying to visualise these drills from textbooks more than 100 years old. Thank you for your hard work and dedication in bringing them to life for us, and keep them coming please!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thanks Tim. My pleasure!

[@Dan-mw1le]

No doubt one of the best historical KZbinrs, you have peaked my interest in the musketry of the Victorian era and have really inspired me when it comes to historical firearms. Continue doing the great things you do Rob!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you sir! Very glad you are enjoying things here, on the channel. Cheers.

[@Dan-mw1le]

Cheers to you too!

[@martin2sheds]

A truly splendid channel, simply a cut above.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you Martin.

[@frodobaggins629]

I've watched this Video 4 times! Three times on patreon and once here! I took notes the second set of watches for my At home training program, and I watched it here to comment and thank you because I learned more in this 30 minutes than I have in hours of firearms instruction elsewhere! Thank you again Rob, you have made my day! Even though this is "For the commonwealth!" it'll be useful for a doughboy such as myself, as I've heard many ( unverified ) comments saying we "adapted" the British training methods for our Armies. ( correct me if I'm wrong! ) Again thank you! I tried to comment on Patreon but it wouldn't work, so I'm leaving this here! THANK YOU! I mean after asking for some tips, I never expected a whole video of help!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Glad you found it useful, for sure. It's a fun subject to study.

[@survivalcomms]

Incredible video - so much detail and a true learning experience. A true quantum leap in musketry for the time and lessons that still are applicable today. Thank you for sharing !

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

You most welcome! Cheers.

[@rollo8847]

15k subs! Nice to see the channel picking up, these SMLE videos are fascinating

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Bit by bit!... thanks.

[@mycroft1905]

Superb work, Rob. Fascinating! Just a word on Fire Positions - Prone Position. I was in the Australian Cadet Corps at secondary school in the 1960s. As such, I underwent basic musketry training on SMLEs. When on the range and firing from the Prone Position, I was drilled to always keep my heels absolutely flat to the ground toes pointed out. I cannot ever forget. Anytime my heel raised as much as a blade of grass above the ground, an instructor would either kick the offending heel, stand on the offending foot, yell at me (you'll cop a %$*&ing bullet in the %$*&ing foot if you keep %$*&ing doing that you %$*&ing silly #!@*), or a combination of the above. Thanks for researching and presenting this information and showing us how it was done. I now have a better understanding of the tradition I was part of and look back on those days with some fondness...at least now that I am as obsolete as the SMLE and unlikely to have to use one to kill anyone. Just keep your left heel down %~))

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thanks! Yes the heel bit was somewhat of a point... Mine don't rest naturally on the ground in the prone... so in the interest of a more comfortable position, mine are often a bit above, if a bit a-historical.. as for "getting them shot off", that always made me laugh.... obviously, the heel was more important than the head, which is always higher... :-)

[@mycroft1905]

Ha ha ha. Yes indeed. Didn't make a whole lot of sense to me at the time. Much of it didn't. But I recall negotiated outcomes based on logical argument were not welcome, so I did their bidding and still do 50 years later if I assume the prone to pot a bunny. Long-term muscle memory or always wary of a German in the shrubbery? Perhaps we can conclude that for instructing NCOs, feet are more worthy of preservation than heads because feet don't give lip.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Haha! Indeed....!

[@iceickl]

My day couldn't get better, your vidz always are a pleasure to watch, cheers mate!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thanks Ryan. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@sniperpatch]

Excellent video and information thank you.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@whatnowstinky]

Brilliant as always. Please pass our thanks onto Mrs British Muzzleloaders, she must be a youtube widow every time you are making one of these videos. Also, thanks for doing the section on cleaning.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Will do... The Memsahib is very understanding.

[@MrRedbeard762]

Cleverly produced, fun and informational as always. Thank you

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Cheers!

[@Returnofthemick]

Well done Rob! You (and your clone) taking on a whole German army like that. Brilliant! Excellent content. As soon as I get my hands on some money its going straight to your Patreon.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you very much for your sentiment. It is appreciated a great deal. As for the Germans, someone had to stop them getting to Paris.... :-)

[@rimsdad]

Sadly I recall those scene photos when I was a young solder in the early 70's

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Do you mean the landscape targets?

[@rimsdad]

Yes in Nanaimo with B coy C Scot R I remember the sight stick with the peep hole but no Nco really skilled on musketry to teach it properly!

[@RiflemanMoore]

Fantastic content and editing, I'm sorry to say I'm only just picking up these videos now, better late than never.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Happy to have you along... I enjoy yours as well!

[@RiflemanMoore]

Many thanks!

[@AIHurrell]

Fascinating info and very well presented. Thank you for taking the time for these videos.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

You are most welcome!

[@scroggins100]

Just to say again, Love this series. Ive been weapons instructor in the mil and now a target rilel instructor for may years. My first shots with a No8 then no 4 then 4T and onto L39 and L42 alongside my old SLR on ops and at Bisley are mostly good memories. Last thing (note phrase) I taught in the Mil was the SA80/LSW and what a pile of junk that was. However, you have filled in many gaps in my education on this iconic Jezail. Many thanks.From my side of the pond. Steve

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Hi Steve. Glad you enjoyed it! You've had quite the experience, then!

[@scroggins100]

Aye a few, But I think your films really are very good quality and a cut above the usual KZbin attempts. Plus your depth of knowledge shines through. You should put it on TV. Indeed, you have made me think of adapting a few ideas from your film for our 22 iron sight (parker Hale and Anz) boys. Based on the old snap targets (fig 12/11) we have a few of. Might even teach the GRIT! Best Steve

[@T.S.Birkby]

Exceptionally thorough and interesting. Great work

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you !

[@bmp130]

Excellent video!! I loved the opening. The care and effort put into your videos in outstanding. The gun shot into the stump was really great haha.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@B_Squadron_Y_Patrol_Planchet]

Another great intro! Food for thought now I have a MkI III* :) Thanks!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Great! You've got a great pattern rifle there.

[@SafetyProMalta]

As usual excellent in all respects.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@LUCA302]

Beautiful documentary! Very interesting! Thanks

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Cheers!

[@MrChiron12]

Just found this channel via CapnBall, and I'm already enjoying your content.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thanks for stopping by! Balazs runs a great channel! Cheers.

[@string-bag]

Well done Mr. Enfield!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Cheers!

[@donphilp7511]

This was very interesting and I had no idea of the amount of training

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Cheers!

[@tomservo5347]

My Dad has what I'm guessing is a WW2 surplus that my grandpa bought him for his birthday. Grandpa actually got it from a hardware store that used to occasionally have a wooden barrel full of surplus rifles you could buy for $10. (The good ol' days...sigh.) Excellent rifle and the bolt action cannot be beat. It's actually a very good whitetail deer hunting rifle that several people including myself have used. I just wish my Dad hadn't 'sporterized' by cutting down the full stock on it that I'd very much like to replace someday.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Nice!

[@NuManXplore]

Fascinating series!! Thanks for all the time put into it!!!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!

[@stephanematis]

Love the landscape target idea. In fact, I think I shall incorporate it into my plans in the future.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Handy and fun, for sure!

[@silverfingerthesilverstack5062]

I think its about time you had a commision, you have earned it, and show us what officers of the era did and the weapons they fired eg pistols etc.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Handguns are a real pain in the ass to own and use in Canada. If they weren't, it would be much easier to do that. As it is, I can't commit to that right now... and besides, how can a commission be considered a reward?..... Do you know how hard it is to hide that lobotomy scar?

[@silverfingerthesilverstack5062]

lol

[@davidseale716]

Interesting to think that this is what my Great Grandfather went through durning the 1st world war, when training. He was at Gallipoli, Somme,Ypres and lost his life back on the Somme in March 1918. Thank you for giving me this insite.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

You are most welcome, David. Training did suffer some economies after the outbreak of war, but generally the basics of Musketry did remain throughout...

[@c0ketehwhale]

6:00 Ouch, cut your knee on those rocks? ;) Great video!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Didn't notice,..... too busy hunting the steel plate army.... I mean, The Boche...

[@3MTA3-]

Bravo!-great video. Thanks-

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Cheers.

[@mikeryan9479]

Hi Rob, I've at present reslugged my bore & she measures .314 , So straight away I've worked out I was under sizing my bullets. I've tried casting more bullets and measured them before I've sized them and they coming out at about .314 1/2. So I could use them unsized, with the gas check pushed on and pan lubed! But I would rather size them all in one go so I know there uniformed ! As I am sure you know how much each bullet can vary from the first one to the last one !? So I've made the decision to buy a Lyman .314 sizing die and just waiting on its arrival !!! Then a day to the range if I can sweet talk the mrs ! I'll let you know how I get on. Keep up the good work and look forward to your next video

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Oh for sure. Glad to know that you might have discovered the fix!

[@thecastbulletkid]

BRILLIANT! I knew about landscape targets but not how they were used. Jeff.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Glad you enjoyed it Jeff! Cheers.

[@petermartini8346]

Great stuff Rob, looking forward to part 3

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thanks Peter!

[@georgetompkins5438]

great video, could watch all day.

[@RubioNegroZaravia]

I am seriously impressed by how these early training methods line up with modern techniques, which raised firing rates from 15% to 95% once implemented (source: "On Killing" by Lt Col Dave Grossman).

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Wouldn't it be the modern methods "lining up" with the older ones?..... :-) It was really quite comprehensive, wasn't it?

[@duncanandrews1940]

Got the notification this time, great stuff as always plus I joined you on Patreon. Good luck with the venture..........

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you very much Duncan. Glad the technical stuff seems to have sorted itself out.

[@jacobjohnson4697]

Such a great channel!!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you!

[@jimf3932]

Very interesting, Rob. Would our modern armies tea have the fundamentals so well. This may come as a shock but US Marines are not even taught how to use iron sights anymore, opting to rely solely on their 4x ACOGs. Consternation!! I've taken it on myself wherever and whenever I've had Marines under my charge since 2014 when I first learned this to teach and drill them how to use their rear aperture and front blade sights on their carbines. Shocking...

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Very interesting!

[@MrHondaguy1]

Another excellent video. I love this stuff!!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Glad to hear it!

[@TheLoxxxton]

great stuff!! brought a year to my eye

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

That's OK, as long as you wiped it with a 4x2..... :-)

[@thetazman666]

Love the channel Instructional and funny

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Cheers!

[@Alcochaser]

The man knows his stuff. Love to see the evolution of tactics here. Especially compared to the US doctrine I know of. Cant wait for the Number 4 Mk 1 to inevitably show up.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

One day... :-)

[@drakinclaq]

Love your style of videos! Just became a Patreon Supporter!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Glad you find them enjoyable! Thank you very much for your help.

[@mikecawood]

Great video.

[@fludblud]

11:19 ENEMY 12 0'CLOCK, 200 METRES, FOUR KNUCKLES LEFT OF BIG TREE Now imagine a section of first year university officer cadets suddenly waving their fists in the air trying to discern which is the 'big tree' in a fucking forest. Good times haha

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Haha...

[@williamhumphries4919]

Well done Sir

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you William!

[@danpos1971]

very interesting. A wealth of information that I did not know. Thanks. Can't wit for the next part :)

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Cheers!

[@stutz788]

A bit late to these comments. I went through British Army basic training in 1975 and we used 2 acronyms for fire control orders. GRIT, Group, Range, Indication and Type of fire. CLAP, Clear, Loud, As an order and with Pauses. There was a specific type of fire for anticipatory fire. Watch and Shoot, Watch and Shoot. A typical order might be ... Gun group, 450 Metres, Slightly left, red roofed house, enemy appearing from behind house, Watch and Shoot, Watch and Shoot. The Gun Group would observe the house and when enemy targets presented themselves the Gun Group would open fire without further orders being necessary.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Indeed. These are both modern inventions, of course. There is no mention of anything but the most basic of fire control orders... for example.... "At (an object), At (a range), (Rapid) Fire! Most of the type of thing you reference, began to get formalized around the WWII timeframe, and certainly afterwards.

[@stephenlarson9422]

chap on the left, five rounds, rapid and now that quote makes sense

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Did this provide some clarity?

[@stephenlarson9422]

Yes, you explained perfectly in my opinion why the brigader would give such an order

[@brucegraham4332]

How little things change, we still do harmonization shoots on the 30 yd range. Great video!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

If it ain't broke!.. :-)

[@r1-le801]

Awesome video!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks.

[@joshuathiel243]

Great video, LOVE the intro!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Haha.. Glad you found it enjoyable!

[@Real_Claudy_Focan]

Best notification i got today !

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Glad that it was looked forward to!

[@magnusjohnsen5521]

Best intro ever

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Ever?

[@lesmarshall892]

Excellent series of videos. I am a historian with a keen interest in the training and use of the SMLE after having the honour to use one during training in the military many years ago. Very professionally produced and the presentation is outstanding. When can we expect part three?

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Hi Les. Thanks for the kind sentiment. Part three will be along in a while... working through some other long overdue projects right now.... in due time though..

[@notarokescientist3003]

History as it should be taught

[@roadpanzir]

You would make a fine Brigadier!

[@seancopley9678]

excellent!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Cheers!

[@biggles1483]

Marvellous

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Cheers!

[@grumpygrumpgrump136]

Very interesting.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Glad you found it so. Cheers.

[@TwentythreePER]

No wonder the British were so good with their rifles in the early stages of the war, the amount of drill and training was extensive. I'd love to train with you on the SMLE, or any other British arm for that matter.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Rapid Fire with Rob......

[@rockywr]

They were the only real professional army of that time. My grandfather was taken prisoner at Mons but the opening battles showed the British fire orders were damned near perfect when the German Generals thought they were up against machine-guns ... it's a little dubious point but I think it's because we were always known for great volley fire. Think of it, 50 riflemen doing 12 rounds rapid fire and, all were extremely well trained .....

[@berhorst59]

As an American, I have a true affection for our '03 Springfield, but I think the SMLE is the "cat's meow" as far as a bolt action battle rifle. Never understood why Britain didnt just update the sights on the nr1, mk 3. Much more eye appealing than the nr4 mk1. I know about the nr1 mk5, and how rare it is, but it would have been financially mor sound to just improve the sights

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

I agree with the ascetic assessment of the SMLE over the No 4 but the No 4 was a better rifle, technologically speaking and easier to manufacture.

[@dmoney6005]

Seriously impressed with the intro and the whole video haha. I've never seen such cleverness on KZbin to create this excellent immersion

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you very much Dylan. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@EliteAmmunition]

As always top shelf!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thank you, Jay.

[@ethelmini]

They are known as drill rounds, not dummy and snap shooting would be initiated with the command "watch and shoot" instead of fire. That's known as an individual fire control order. Amazing how little things have changed and, comparing your handling skills with others on KZbin, how effective a training system it is.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Hi there. All of that is quite relevant in today's language but I would urge you to consider consulting the references before being so categorical. The actual nomenclature was "Cartridge S.A. Dummy Drill .303 inch".......The phrase "Dummy Cartridges" is used in the Musketry Regs 1909(14) page 103 Art 261. Nowhere in the entire Musketry Regulation does it mention the command "Watch and Shoot" and in the pamphlet on Fire Control Orders from 1913 that I also used for a reference, there is also no mention as well, although the engagement of fleeting and hidden targets (i.e. the situation that you would use "W&S") is explained in detail. Please, if you can provide a relevant reference for what you are indicating, I should very much like see it.

[@zoiders]

Fire control orders are still taught almost the same way today a century on. The only real change has been adoption of IR lasers for target designation if fighting at night. Just because you all have the green dot of death on the front of your rifle it doesn't mean the section commander wants a disco.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Yes they are.

[@lightbox617]

I'm trying to figuer out why I was taught to wrap the sling around my arm to keep a small bore rifle steady and the butt close to my shoulder. I was taught in the US but have been taught to think that the guys with the Lee Enfield were the best, most disciplined marksmen

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

The sling can be used to steady the rifle. Quite effective. It was not used as such in Army musketry of the era, however.

[@ethelmini]

It wouldn't have been deemed effective for the sort of battle shooting, fire and manoeuvre a basic Tommy would be expected to do. The No 4 can be found with a "marksman's loop", for a sling , just in front of the magazine. In addition to the sling swivels for carrying purposes. Your videos have helped me realise something else about the doctrine. By connecting it to a soldier's pay grade it will have made it much harder for units to let soldiers slip through the net and neglect musketry, even storemen and mess stewards had to shoot.

[@markgarcia3101]

Love the intro! I probably wouldn't have done as well with a 1903 Springfield!?

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

I'm sure you would have done what you had to do!... :-)

[@markgarcia3101]

you can say that again!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

I'm sure you would have done what you had to do!... :-)

[@kaiserrollschicken5895]

yay second part! keep it up

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Cheers!

[@pdalko]

Well done!!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Thanks!

[@Real_Claudy_Focan]

The "art" of shooting and the central school forming regimental instructors... Belgian Army still works like that !! Belgian Army based his "techniques de tir et de combat" on the Swiss drills, we are formed at a unique central school ! We still teach with a huge emphase on "drills" and repetitive trainings (somewhat boring for a good shooter, but still very useful under huge stress) Firing positions are still relevant One of our last "aim tool" is a prism that you can "clamp" on the barrel between back and forward sights. Fire discipline stands for 3 type of fire ; "applicate" single shot, double-tap for short-ranges, and 5 follow-up shots. No other kind of shots are allowed ! I laughed on tests topics ! We still ask the same kind of questions to recruits ! For advanced modules we use more ...advanced techniques which i can't discuss here... All being said that the "Art of Musketry" or "Art of shooting" never changes ! Discipline, good comprehension of what you do and training on the range ! British Army was (and still) a really well trained army ! I got a question for you ; did the British Army wrote over the jamming solves ? I'm interested on how they did managed jamming back in the day ! PS : the trick used for the landscape target is really smart !! (excuse my bad english)

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Interesting! I haven't come across anything regarding jams at all..... With a bolt action rifle, things are pretty simple and easily remedied, unlike a modern self-loading one. Maybe they thought that it wasn't required to mention?

[@Real_Claudy_Focan]

I know that "rim-jam" with Enfield mags are easy to clear ; a single push downward puts all rims in the "good order" But the true jam (and the scary one too) back in the day should have been the "long fire" ! What do they do since the ammo won't ignite/fire, what were the procedures ! This could be an interesting topic to developp !

[@zoiders]

Radway Green manufactured brass has a chamfered rim to prevent rim jams.

[@pikeywyatt]

i think there is still a shooting range at Hythe next to the Royal military canal.shall have to pop over there and have a look..

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Yes, there are many... was there last summer.

[@johnpowell5433]

Indeed the ranges at Hythe, and at Lydd just along the coast, are still in operation. I belong to a rifle club that shoots on both and I'm conscious of their long history and of those who learned their musketry there. The serial (individual range) shown in some of the videos, with the Martello tower and letter A at the left end, is Serial 1 at Hythe, much as it was when the photograph was taken, with maybe a little more vegetation that's taken root on the shingle. It's a 300 yard range with intermediate firing points every 100 yards.

[@johnpowell5433]

@@britishmuzzleloaders Rob, what a disappointment to learn that you were here recently and that I didn't know you were coming! I hope you had a great visit.

[@bootyourface]

I wish you were doing this in Manitoba!

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

I couldn't..... I'd get all dizzy with not knowing which way I was facing..... too much sky.... :-)

[@jerryhughes669]

I love my lee M3

[@terrencethorn9237]

Faulty Towers meets the British Infantry.

[@windogendoors7566]

I noticed that some of these movements are a lot like those in the South African Defense Force 1970s training Manuel.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Pretty common stuff across the old Empire countries...

[@windogendoors7566]

@@britishmuzzleloaders I was just surprised at the staying power of the movements. That is proof of their effectiveness.

[@ulfpe]

Actually quite similar to the training we had in the 80s, but with automatic weapons.

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Little bit different, eh?.... :-)

[@EGCblackknight]

And so we meet Robert and Douglas McKenzie, before emigrating to the Second City

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Very nice reference there!

[@EGCblackknight]

glad some one got it.