Why Truck Drivers are Leaving The Industry

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Why Truck Drivers are Leaving The Industry with a 45,000 shortfall of Drivers the haulage industry is going to be at breaking point unless things change very quickly.
The main problem with the trucking industry is simple truck drivers don't earn anything like what they should for the skills they have.
When truck drivers from other countries are starting to go back to their own countries because they can't earn enough in Britain should be sending Alarm Bells to the relevant people in this Country.
Wages certainly need to rise to avoid further Truck Drivers leaving the Haulage Industry.
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@barnabyhoofer8044
@barnabyhoofer8044 2 жыл бұрын
There is no shortage of drivers. There is a shortage of people who are willing to work for shit wages.
@willsommers6477
@willsommers6477 2 жыл бұрын
My medical is up next year... i wont be renewing it.
@florendaddy6728
@florendaddy6728 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@b34rdy
@b34rdy 2 жыл бұрын
1 here. When i started driving a got a great gig at Rm on agency, 36 hours a week, 500 quid take home a week and no manual handing and no weekend working. did that for just over 2 years. Then did some driving abroad doing tours and gigs, money was silly good, spent long periods away though. would love to go back to it but im currently retraining to be a network engineer (i started this before the government had that stupid ad) I do miss driving trucks but mayby one day ill buy one just to drive and for shows.
@tomandjerry1941
@tomandjerry1941 2 жыл бұрын
my medical is up it 3 years and im not going to renew it as im getting out they will oly take notice when its to late
@flipper2392
@flipper2392 2 жыл бұрын
I first saw that comment over ten years ago, that and there's a shortage of people who know how to treat them. There are 90,000 licence holders with no cpc. (Figure from ONS.)
@raymacdonald7519
@raymacdonald7519 2 жыл бұрын
I love how “business” owners complain how people don’t want to work, when actually it’s a case of people don’t want to work their guts out and then be ripped off for it.
@drunkirishsteve
@drunkirishsteve 2 жыл бұрын
It's exactly the same in hospitality industry and the pandemic has really woke a lot of people up
@thelawenforcerhd9654
@thelawenforcerhd9654 2 жыл бұрын
Here's how it works dopey: you people pay for their labour and sell it on. If you can't do that profitably you don't do it. Its not hard to understand. No ones owes you anything. Business owners don't give a damn about you, never have never will.
@cuckingfunt9353
@cuckingfunt9353 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelawenforcerhd9654 No, this is how it works asshole... SUPPLY AND DEMAND... Now there's a shortage of 100,000 truck drivers in the UK, pay will just have to fucking well double won't it.
@thelawenforcerhd9654
@thelawenforcerhd9654 2 жыл бұрын
@@cuckingfunt9353 No it won't dopey. Self-driving trucks already exist. Haulage companies are not going to pay someone like you double when they can get a driverless truck for a fifth of minimum wage.
@cuckingfunt9353
@cuckingfunt9353 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelawenforcerhd9654 What year are you from Mr time traveler ?
@sporegnosis
@sporegnosis 2 жыл бұрын
This video aged perfectly! There's no such thing as a labour shortage, only people who wont work without proper economic compensation - regardless if they are self employed or not.
@Tarzenz
@Tarzenz 2 жыл бұрын
yes lots of beggers like yo i guess
@mathieumansire372
@mathieumansire372 2 жыл бұрын
or qualification
@gustavgnoettgen
@gustavgnoettgen 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tarzenz Whatever you wanted to say by that... It didn't get through.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 2 жыл бұрын
It also shows that people did see it coming. And that COVID-19 wasn’t the cause.
@sirJ0rd4n
@sirJ0rd4n 2 жыл бұрын
Post corporatism
@colinanderson548
@colinanderson548 2 жыл бұрын
I got my hgv license in the armed forces, used it for a few years while I found my feet on civvy street, and soon became fucked off with shit money, 15 hour days, and weekend working. I went back to college as an adult to retrain as a carpenter. That was 20 years ago now. I work harder for my boss now but earn good money in return. Just the other day I got a letter from the Department of Transport, begging me to use my hgv license again. And the timing couldn't have been better, Because due to the driver shortage My local shop has ran out of bog roll, so I wiped my arse on that letter after a greasy beer shit, I wouldn't drive a truck again even if you offered me a Puerto Rican bikini model as a co driver.
@TheWunder
@TheWunder 2 жыл бұрын
Now I need to research the last part of your message...
@sirg-had8821
@sirg-had8821 2 жыл бұрын
That was a masterpiece of the english language. Bill Shakespeare would applaud you.
@jspin1103
@jspin1103 2 жыл бұрын
The DOT sent you a letter?! WOW. I’m a Canadian trucker (car hauler actually) and I can’t even imagine that. We’re having similar issues with driver shortages here but it hasn’t come to that yet. “Greasy beer shit?” 🤣🤣👍 I love England. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@TikeMyson69
@TikeMyson69 2 жыл бұрын
Send them a letter asking for 400k a year. I'd live to hear their answer
@hotdogryalls
@hotdogryalls 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah..I used my letter to light the fire
@timmorodgers4271
@timmorodgers4271 3 жыл бұрын
No shortage of drivers for employers who pay well and respect their employees.
@jeremyphilander8833
@jeremyphilander8833 3 жыл бұрын
By dan bloody time.
@normanrhone2791
@normanrhone2791 3 жыл бұрын
Fi real.👍
@MrAvant123
@MrAvant123 2 жыл бұрын
Good point !
@Simonet1309
@Simonet1309 2 жыл бұрын
This of course goes for most industries. It also explains the chronic shortage of nurses.
@paulsnow6880
@paulsnow6880 2 жыл бұрын
Shit wages Shit hours Thieves VOSA Roadworks Early starts Late finishes Shit weather Speed Cameras Spy in the Cab Hours Loading Hours Tipping Dickheads on the road Thank God Im retired Oh thats another thing Most haulage companies dont have a pension scheme.
@seanhedley8028
@seanhedley8028 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve just left the industry after 36 years and I’m not going back! This man is spot on in everything he says. I’m glad they can’t get drivers it serves the greedy bastards right!
@thebrowns5337
@thebrowns5337 2 жыл бұрын
What a daft comment! These 'stick it to ths man' type comments show so little thought. It's us that these messes always hurt, you and I - the workers. The companies employing drivers won't care or notice. They'll find a solution and pass the costs on to us - the end user. So it serves me right distribution companies want profit and bonuses for the bosses? How tf?
@seanhedley8028
@seanhedley8028 2 жыл бұрын
Forgive me but I can’t understand a word of that ! I don’t know what point you are actually making! I’m not quite sure what’s daft about me having no sympathy with greedy employers who have created their own problem. If they had valued and respected their grown workforce instead of leaving them out in the cold whilst they enjoyed cheap labour from Eastern Europe, they might not be struggling to find drivers now!
@grigoresimion8744
@grigoresimion8744 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your statement 101% because I was there. Exploited extorted and insulted intellectually on each and every day, and treated like a criminal, after all of that.
@XboxKenny1992
@XboxKenny1992 2 жыл бұрын
@UC-uBsaQRmZ98A-8qOFHJSYQ can’t see the mans problem, same in other industrys etc if u don’t pay enough then guys will go elsewhere
@robaudi20v
@robaudi20v 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebrowns5337 what you just said was literally waffle. You have 0 idea what your talking about so stfu
@willmont8258
@willmont8258 2 жыл бұрын
If being a HGV driver was "rewarding and lucrative" as these news announcers tell us, there wouldn't be a shortage of drivers!
@tcritt
@tcritt 2 жыл бұрын
Not entirely true. Who is going to do the jobs that the new drivers leave behind?
@Tarzenz
@Tarzenz 2 жыл бұрын
But your lazy. Will.
@willmont8258
@willmont8258 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tarzenz Did it for 17 years, 15 hours a day, 6 days a week. Feel like I was just working my ass off while others made all the money.
@Heinz76Harald
@Heinz76Harald 2 жыл бұрын
@@willmont8258 im pretty sure it wasnt just a "feeling"
@pxnx
@pxnx 2 жыл бұрын
and they wouldn't announce news, but drive trucks😋
@austinmadelaine4194
@austinmadelaine4194 2 жыл бұрын
I was a truck driver for 27 years, i got out and never going back. It's worse than this guy tells it.
@SiliconBong
@SiliconBong 2 жыл бұрын
It's not limited to truck drivers, most labouring jobs in the commonwealth particularly those related to the food industry, are as close to the minimum adult wage as possible. . . edit- the closer to the farm you get the wages get better; it's retail that has godawful pay for ridiculous hours. Australia & NZ are the few countries that have fines for drivers for not taking mandatory breaks for truck drivers - too many accidents caused by sleeping at the wheel, or worse drivers pinging on stimulents* *spelling?
@smok4101
@smok4101 2 жыл бұрын
Depressing to hear that. Sorry
@forgetfuldullahan5468
@forgetfuldullahan5468 2 жыл бұрын
Even more, the truckers they do have they are willing to fuck over their drivers at the drop of the hat, happened to my grandfather.
@briang.7206
@briang.7206 2 жыл бұрын
Wal-Mart says drivers in California make $950 - $1455 a week.
@FloridaMan69.
@FloridaMan69. 2 жыл бұрын
all jobs are bad, that's why I won the lottery
@dkpirie
@dkpirie 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly no major company decided to pay respectful wages, because here we are over 2 years later (Oct 2021) and we are missing food from the supermarket shelves as we are now 150,000 drivers short.
@LilTikiBoy
@LilTikiBoy 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that these greedy bastards that don't want to pay a decent wage will let the entire country collapse before would part with any of their precious money. They all probably think that they're the next Jeff Bezos.
@anyoneanywhere8212
@anyoneanywhere8212 2 жыл бұрын
@@LilTikiBoy yea man what's wrong with these retards? Money can't buy you anything of interest in SATAN'S WORLD anyway. One way ticket, straight to HELL.
@rey_nemaattori
@rey_nemaattori 2 жыл бұрын
They're just letting 'the market' take care of it. Of course that means the owners of said market get fed first, and they're not done eating yet...
@Dark_Lord_Mr_B
@Dark_Lord_Mr_B 2 жыл бұрын
Goes to show that socialism isn't the only thing that leads to shortages and empty shelves. Been telling some Americans of late that the reason people aren't coming back for bad wages is that the pandemic has allowed them time to actually think rather than continue in a haze of work, sleep, rinse and repeat.
@cactusman1771
@cactusman1771 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dark_Lord_Mr_B Well when you get paid equal to or more than your salary from stimulus checks and unemployment. Why would you go back. Of course this socialized financing is unsustainable and will crash. Once inflation eats peoples savings, energy costs and inflation raise the price of everything and unemployment going back down and stimuluses ceased. People will work again. Make sure you have a job before people come begging for a job because the beggars will get peanuts in pay.
@areyouserial
@areyouserial 2 жыл бұрын
The media conveniently ignore that the oil fields here in the US always have a sufficient number of drivers because they simply raise the rates when they need more people. There's no confusion, no crisis, no advertising and no fancy recruiting scheme needed.
@petuniasevan
@petuniasevan 2 жыл бұрын
They do, and you never see them looking for drivers. Most trucking companies are run by pencil-pushing accountants who think that if they can get rid of all the drivers, then all the money pouring in will go directly to their deserving pockets. I wish I was kidding.
@areyouserial
@areyouserial 2 жыл бұрын
@@petuniasevan They're always looking for drivers - from outside the country.
@Brommear
@Brommear 2 жыл бұрын
And supply chain problems in the USA has fallen under your radar? Strange...
@robykxxx
@robykxxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Brommear how is that related?.. the US can't afford to pay for imports people just don't see it yet.
@Brommear
@Brommear 2 жыл бұрын
@@robykxxx This string was about a lack of drivers. Too few drivers and the goods heap up in harbours and do not get delivered to shops. The US debt is not relevant to a shortage of drivers. Drivers are a critical part of the supply chain and a shortage simply means that the remuneration rate is too low.
@johnfairweather9188
@johnfairweather9188 2 жыл бұрын
My best friend was a long distance truck driver. That job totally ruined his health because of the long hours, constant sitting, stress, and bad diet.
@briang.7206
@briang.7206 2 жыл бұрын
Yes my doctor told me truck drivers have the worse health.
@jasperlawrence5361
@jasperlawrence5361 2 жыл бұрын
Its always a matter of paying what is required for top management, but when we have a labour shortage for drivers it is anything but the wages.
@SKEptic-mg2dd
@SKEptic-mg2dd 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, a piss poor CEO can get a gigantic bonus and raise because that is what the industry is paying for that position.
@Snugggg
@Snugggg 2 жыл бұрын
@@SKEptic-mg2dd not surprising that the people who decide the rate of pay will easily convince them selves that they deserve the lions share...
@hermes667
@hermes667 2 жыл бұрын
And everywhere you go: it is all the same. XD In Germany we have high wages, it is easy to get cheap workers from foreign countrys because paying them less than most Germany would accept is quite more than they could expect in their home countrys. But their are also shortages going on for decades. I work as a craftsman and for 30 years less young people learning any craft, they all go to universities. And this is because of wages and working conditions.
@richardmycroft5336
@richardmycroft5336 2 жыл бұрын
@@Snugggg But that is because the mgt. knows they are special people with special skills and educations. You know, like how to put every quid into your pocket and letting the rest live on poverty level wages, and by god they should be happy to get that as the upper crust are the job creators. I worked in IT on a contract basis. It was good when I was young, but as I let myself get older things changed. I had a good friend who committed suicide because at age 61 he couldn't get a job anywhere, plus his lovely wife decided to divorce him as he wasn't all bright and cheery. And we had a flood of people coming in from India, and other countries, who would work for lower wages, and some of them are competent, but a lot are not. By being very frugal for decades I managed to retire early and still get emails asking me to take on some contract or the other. My health improved quite a bit after leaving high tech behind, so my answer is no even though things are tighter than before. For the grunts, I do not actually know of a great industry to get into.
@peterwhittle522
@peterwhittle522 2 жыл бұрын
Essential workers and skilled workers in the UK are hilariously underpaid.
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 2 жыл бұрын
That's true for about 60% of working people by my calculations. I have been a senior design engineer for an MOD subcontractor (with 20+ years experience at the time) and some muppet wanted to pay me 20k/year. For a 40 hour week that's less than £10 per hour. Then he wondered why I declined the job.
@chappy2121
@chappy2121 2 жыл бұрын
If you work in the UK you're underpaid, especially if you've got a family to support and you pay for them instead of claiming for them. Working class in the UK are screwed
@thebrowns5337
@thebrowns5337 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@sylwsmith7712
@sylwsmith7712 2 жыл бұрын
fat cats in borough have 30 k on start , free parking , retirement plan , holiday when ask , and much more
@LMCRecords
@LMCRecords 2 жыл бұрын
@Jezza Corbynista HGV drivers are highly trained plus we also have understand the regulations around driving times ,highway code etc,
@richardnewton638
@richardnewton638 3 жыл бұрын
By now 2020 the rate for a class 1 hgv driver should be £17 to £18 pound per hour but I'm still seeing adverts for £10.50. The same rate as 15 years ago
@davidyoung9561
@davidyoung9561 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. This is why I won't do it. All that responsibility and long hours for about a tenner an hour? No thanks. I'd rather shelf stack.
@Son-Of-Gillean
@Son-Of-Gillean 3 жыл бұрын
£12-14 pound an hour is a fair rate, £17-£18 is just pure delusion.
@Son-Of-Gillean
@Son-Of-Gillean 3 жыл бұрын
@biased broadcasting co A building site labourer will get about ~£9-11. Semi-skilled ~£12-14, and qualified tradesmen such as joiners, electricians and plumbers ~£16-20. I wouldn't say HGV drivers are not skilled, but it's not in the same league in as being a joiner.
@Ryan-uh9le
@Ryan-uh9le 3 жыл бұрын
@@Son-Of-Gillean electricians and plumbers earn alot more. I was on 17 an hour for being an electrician mate. done pipe fitters mate for 19 not long ago aswell. 11-12 for driving arctics is funny
@Son-Of-Gillean
@Son-Of-Gillean 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ryan-uh9le You earned ~£40k a year as pipe fitters mate? I smell shite. The rates I quoted are roughly what the professions would earn books in. Self employed might earn a bit more, but the also still have to pay taxes and dont get holiday pay etc. £12-14 ph is definitely a fair rate for driving an artic.
@youtubestolemyusername3419
@youtubestolemyusername3419 2 жыл бұрын
In Denmark as an export driver, I had more salary in the 90s than I would have today. It's ridiculous. They just dumped it to lowest bidder outside EU. Now its people from Philippines and they don't even want it anymore.
@Seneric
@Seneric 2 жыл бұрын
Business owners : I hate people who dont wanna work. ( In reality, exploits those people to amass his own wealth )
@waynethomas6443
@waynethomas6443 2 жыл бұрын
Wages too low. Simple. Not rewarded for the responsibility of driving a heavy vehicle.
@arminsgaming8651
@arminsgaming8651 2 жыл бұрын
Heavy expensive vehicles and expensive cargoes and we get fraction of that
@mattg5878
@mattg5878 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately when there is no barrier to anyone becoming a driver, just a course, wages will always be suppressed. Basically, anyone from anywhere can turn up, do a course, and they are in.
@mattg5878
@mattg5878 2 жыл бұрын
@@arminsgaming8651 if you don’t drive, someone else will for that money
@bugsy742
@bugsy742 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattg5878 exactly mate it’s what killed farming! always some mo fo ready to do it on the cheap!
@justice4all190
@justice4all190 2 жыл бұрын
@@bugsy742 🤭🤭🙌🙌 God bless for truth!
@leroyholm9075
@leroyholm9075 2 жыл бұрын
I quit being a HGV driver in 2000. The wages did not represent the responsibility. Insane traffic constrictions; multiple traffic lights, stupid lane narrowing that was so bad in west country towns that you had to pull in your mirrors to avoid collision with an oncoming lorry, ridiculous restrictions on downloading times, police persecution etc etc. I retrained as an IT teacher and never went back. The disrespect from Management and the public was ridiculous (unless you were delivering to them)
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Design Engineer. Same problem absolutely crap wages, big responsibilities and just not worth the hassle. Considering the cost of qualifications needed to enter the profession its a joke. Especially when someone on a supermarket checkout can earn the same or more.
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 2 жыл бұрын
@Chris I'm in Aerospace. Working with multimillion pound aircraft and on substantially less than you. Can make that much or more as a shift manager at bloody Starbucks, KFC or Maccys with not even 1% of the responsibility. Its a joke. The wages at my company haven't really gone up for 20 years. Back then it wasn't actually a bad career pay wise.
@sylwsmith7712
@sylwsmith7712 2 жыл бұрын
@Chris joke , i saw many idiotic solution and nobody is in prison
@traceymote1079
@traceymote1079 2 жыл бұрын
high fuel, high rd tax, high insurance as well been there done that me and the hubby togeather
@popsandbangsareoverrated
@popsandbangsareoverrated 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 Even airline industry. Not gonna mention the company, but I'm sure many will know, but they decided to increase the management's pay and buy new aircrafts that will be useless in the next 15-20 years, while the staff in the trenches took the cut. They took out of governments money, knowing full well, they aren't struggling due to freighters they did for the government.
@Galaxylord2
@Galaxylord2 2 жыл бұрын
Once had an exemployer say drivers are a dime a dozen. That attitude has come home to roost. Truck drivers are the life blood of an economy. It's high time they started paying us what we're worth! Give them a raise. We certainly know the CEO's are getting crazy high enough pay with Golden parachutes!!
@lukewarmwater6412
@lukewarmwater6412 2 жыл бұрын
I was working for a company that made machines that produce microchips. I was in the welding shop working as a tig welder. some manager was heard to say that welders were a dime a dozen and the next thing I knew I was training three new welders.... left that place and got five dollars an hour more to weld in a shop that had some respect for my skills. the other place is still dealing with a nightmareish turnover rate and still cant(wont) figgure it out!
@Stszelec01
@Stszelec01 2 жыл бұрын
Oh you want raise poor boy you will bereplaces first by robots if every one gets raise no one gets it Also raises for prole like truckers = rest of people earing less becasue no ceo will cut their profits for such stupid reason
@thevox1075
@thevox1075 2 жыл бұрын
I got the same dime a dozen bullshit, too. Tossed that manager the keys and said then you drive it. You’ll be saving money, because you aren’t worth .05.
@dinosnake2241
@dinosnake2241 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukewarmwater6412 Every one of them, every industry, every time! Every single manager seems to act like THEY are the reason, and the only reason at that, that they business is actually functioning. The workers, somehow, are "disposable assets" and "you can be replaced". You hate to gloat. But (many) industries got themselves into this mess by being selfish and greedy - if the stock market is so high, with generally high-posted profits, why is it the general workers never get to see a dime of it??
@chris-2496
@chris-2496 2 жыл бұрын
The West has gotten too used to leeching off hardworking people from other countries. And those who have to compete with people measuring their income compared with what they would have made back home aren't too happy either. Brexit has simply shone a light on that and gotten many industries in Britain scratching their heads on how they can keep underpaying people to keep prices down.
@horvathbenedek3596
@horvathbenedek3596 2 жыл бұрын
"the west" Not the west - multinational corporations and the western upper and middle class. They don't see the issue, because they don't experience it firsthand. This chap is clearly willing to work hard - but wants to get paid too.
@Ayattar55
@Ayattar55 2 жыл бұрын
It's not 'west' exclusive. Here in Poland we're sucking blood from Ukrainians like pros. And Ukrainians do the same to steppe asians, on the level you never saw in the 'west'. And it will be happening for as long as cheap labour import is allowed. And it's wrong as If you're not a specialist in a field requiring both perfect local language and english your bargaining power is negated due to foreign substitute workers.
@dave2.077
@dave2.077 2 жыл бұрын
@@horvathbenedek3596 the west has implemented a system that works great if you have slaves to exploit because thats the way whites have achieved their position in the world, now that people actually mind being a slave the system crumbles
@danepher
@danepher 2 жыл бұрын
@@dave2.077 Whites have achieved the position of the world for many things including advancements in science and other things in the world. Having slaves cheapened out labor, but wouldn't be enough to put them where they are. The reason they can pay less, is because for workers from outside the country, the money they pay is enough to pay for many things in their home country because it is far cheaper. The Chinese do that to themselves, and now that costs in China for workers and manufacturing started climbing, even the Chinese little by little start looking else where to manufacture. For Example India. Slavery spans many cultures, nationalities, and religions from ancient times to the present day. Victims have come from many different ethnicities and religious groups. Blaming whites for it, is inaccurate.
@roger130
@roger130 2 жыл бұрын
All true! Drivers are simply not paid enough for the responsibility of driving a truck. Massive fines off vosa, loss of licence, jail time...all await you if you go 1 minute over your hours, dont check the load that some knob in the warehouse strapped down, driving units that should be on the scrap heap...the list goes on.. HGV drivers should be paid AT LEAST £25 per hour!
@grigoresimion8744
@grigoresimion8744 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you reelise how right you are.
@kanedavenport8419
@kanedavenport8419 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything apart from the strapping down part, As a driver it's your responsibility to ensure the safety and security of the load.
@stinga_
@stinga_ 2 жыл бұрын
Just need to manage yourself bruh. If somethings not right they can't force you to go anywhere.
@martinburke362
@martinburke362 2 жыл бұрын
£12ph for class1, the responsibility is enormous, remainders blame it on BREXIT, Eastern Europeans lowered the wages to a level even they didn't like
@martinburke362
@martinburke362 2 жыл бұрын
@@gaz3 well thank you very much Gary i wish the bosses would take your attitude, you know the old saying, pay peanuts you get monkeys, wages in a free marketplace reflect training, i shudder to think to what levels the employers will sink, but i tell you what it's gunna be dangerous out there in the next few years
@paullacey748
@paullacey748 3 жыл бұрын
I left the job on 8th September 2014 as the Law about CPC came in on the 11th. At that time I would have had to pay for it myself, total about £700. I refused to do it on principle. I was only 17 months away from retirement. Claimed every benefit I could and survived nicely until 65. Fuck em
@davehann8178
@davehann8178 2 жыл бұрын
Same here CPC was a load of bull, I left trucking and drove patient transport. Not met one driver who said the CPC was anything but a waste of time.
@bonytenn2908
@bonytenn2908 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant
@elliotgregory3356
@elliotgregory3356 2 жыл бұрын
Just had to redo mine as I drive a 7.5 tonner and it's a crock of fucking shit.
@kevlord9
@kevlord9 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@stew7435
@stew7435 2 жыл бұрын
CPC is just another way driver training companies rip you off too.....its a total waste if time . Last one I did had drivers sitting in with O License students going through stuff completely irrelevant
@peterjones6507
@peterjones6507 2 жыл бұрын
As an ex-driver I'm happy to see a driver shortage. Now we will have to train people and pay them properly.
@danielmorse6597
@danielmorse6597 2 жыл бұрын
Pay the damn people
@gregiles908
@gregiles908 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your offer to employ me in a stressful occupation that ruins my social life and pays me very little, I am reluctantly declining however.
@brolisimo
@brolisimo 2 жыл бұрын
After working in a warehouse for 7 years, I've considered to become a lorry driver expecting the job to be more interesting and better salary. But after research, I learned that you pay a fortune for a licence, then it is not your regular 8 hours, but often 12 hour shifts + saturdays as well, then you take a lot of responsibility and all that is just about 600 a week. So no thank you.
@kragger1985
@kragger1985 2 жыл бұрын
I left warehouses 2 years ago, was only on £312 a week but only working 37 hours a week. I've had 3 driving hgv jobs first was about £500 a week for around 50 odd hours, was piss easy, no weekend work. 2nd was different pay every month but potentially if you did put the graft in you could get close to a grand, I could never be arsed, the work was pretty hard. Now I'm getting between £600 - £750, jobs a piece of piss but a lot of hours again no weekend work. You have to find the right job! Also 60 hours doing this is easier than 40 in a warehouse.
@ryanflood635
@ryanflood635 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t do it.. focus on working up the ladder to management in the warehouse, iv done truck and self employed van and it’s getting worse. The truck jobs biggest problem is they don’t give a shit about the driver or the job just get the delivery done. Even if it’s down a one way street with double yellows. You are expected to walk a cage down the road lol. And self employed van was better but you really have to graft it out to make money but then you have wear and tear and own fuel which soon builds up. Think I put 10k miles on my van in 2 -3 months…wouldn’t recommend doing driving anymore.
@johnclaeys376
@johnclaeys376 2 жыл бұрын
It helps to be able to spell in life…
@thomassummerhill6357
@thomassummerhill6357 3 жыл бұрын
I left the industry 3 years ago , 35 years 25 with same company. Seen so many changes , telematics ruined the job with office bods telling you how to do your job. Don’t miss it one bit.
@doveronefoxtrot4417
@doveronefoxtrot4417 3 жыл бұрын
Entirely so ! Telematics has helped to create this problem. I've heard of systems (UPS) that detect whether the passenger seat is occupied, (remember taking your dog out with you ?) And even worse detects if you are wearing a seat belt !! I kid you not ! If its unbuckled while driving a signal is sent to the transport manager, and they will create a disciplinary log when you return to the depot. When I drove trucks they never even had belts fitted ! Its the little things like this that finished me off.
@paul-c7541
@paul-c7541 3 жыл бұрын
Same glad to get away from it, big difference from the early days when you were left alone to get on with it.
@Sametribeeverytime
@Sametribeeverytime 3 жыл бұрын
@@doveronefoxtrot4417 If the company has to resort to telematics etc it means there's no trust in the employee, without trust what do we have?.
@doveronefoxtrot4417
@doveronefoxtrot4417 3 жыл бұрын
@@paul-c7541 We all have some wonderful stories from the early days. 🤩 Sadly now the workplace is a hell hole to be in, and driving is no exception. Couldn't do it now.
@bwghall1
@bwghall1 2 жыл бұрын
soon as that tachograph was fitted we were off. crap pay. permission to stop and pee sir.
@whoisme678
@whoisme678 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard several drivers on the radio making quite clear why they're leaving. One was money and the other said that there seems to be no end to a day's work. . I remember one driver on M6 who'd simply had enough called the station to say "he was done with driving because he could not deal with sitting in traffic. Any increase in HGV drivers pay UNLESS its a huge pay increase is far outweighed by the CRAP taken with driving. As for the BS being fed by the media about pay. They're all going back to their old jobs. My friend left driving as HGV 1. Hours rubbish and pay also. If pay had been as good as they say £45.000 then I'm sure he'd have stayed and many others like him. It's true what they say. "don't believe all the BS the media feeds us."
@stephenlamb9008
@stephenlamb9008 2 жыл бұрын
Yes never ever believe western media, I call it governments mouthpiece.
@A86140
@A86140 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenlamb9008 50 cent army shill
@Streetrocker28
@Streetrocker28 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry lads. , don’t blame it on the brexit , same shit is happening in Spain , Belgium , France … it’s because of the outsourcing and extreme liberation of the markets …. Those east European drivers were just a backdoor solution , for cheaper transport and to enhance the growth of megacorporations …. Now their golden goose has been slaughtered and no British , Belgium or french youth don’t want to touch it anymore , and they are very right !
@vmitchinson
@vmitchinson 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenlamb9008 You are right. The government is allowing this to happen because the bastards have sold out to the multinationalist lobbist. What goes around comes around.
@fltfathin
@fltfathin 2 жыл бұрын
i don't think working 8+ h in a high risk job (driving tons of dangerous materials, heavy stuff, etc) worth even 45k, esp with the shipping cost people pay for their items and goods
@greebo7857
@greebo7857 2 жыл бұрын
In Australia it's about being overworked, underpaid and hyper regulated.
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to determine the cause of death in someone who has diabetes, heart disease, and then died of pneumonia. Would they have died if they didn't have diabetes or heart disease? Or do we blame the pneumonia because that's what actually did them in? Same thing with trucking; the work is long and hard and the wages are low but the increasing regulations are the last straw. Same reason there's a shortage of nurses in the US; they have worked long hours, been abused by patients, been disrespected by doctors, and get paid below average wages for decades but the final straw is being forced to learn a bunch of new shit electronic charting programs or being forced to take a vaccine that can cause painful reactions.
@jari2018
@jari2018 2 жыл бұрын
english overlords learn how to disiple the australian worker force abroad - import the despie...
@thomas-hy4bt
@thomas-hy4bt 4 жыл бұрын
everything this dude is saying is 100% correct
@Simonet1309
@Simonet1309 2 жыл бұрын
Strange isn’t how bankers, politicians, CEOs etc all have to be incentivised through high pay etc. Otherwise we will have a dangerous shortage! Never seems to apply to the peasants does it?
@fredmercury1314
@fredmercury1314 2 жыл бұрын
Politicians don't have high pay compared to bankers and CEOs. Probably why they do such a shit job...
@gpethst24
@gpethst24 2 жыл бұрын
@@fredmercury1314 believe me when I say that politicians don't live on their wages... Their lives are paid for in expenses...
@juliantheapostate8295
@juliantheapostate8295 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who can pass CFA needs to be paid well. You ever looked at it?
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 2 жыл бұрын
Dianne Coates has a salary over £400 million a year. That makes politicians look like paupers.
@partytimeninja3139
@partytimeninja3139 2 жыл бұрын
Go be a banker / CEO / politician then ?
@need4speed734
@need4speed734 2 жыл бұрын
Polish people go to Poland because the salary in Poland as a truck driver is similar to in the UK. And, by the way, Poland is a beautiful, clean country with breathtaking nature and fantastic weather, delicious food and beautiful healthy people.
@mrwilliecowie
@mrwilliecowie 2 жыл бұрын
All the Polish people I know in the UK smoke like chimneys & like a drink or two !
@need4speed734
@need4speed734 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrwilliecowie But they are probably not obese, do not have high blood pressure and diabetes, and have most of their dentition. Or maybe you know wrong people. Mayby they are not Polish, perhabs they were only born in Poland. Because from Poland left people from lower classes.
@asdf3568
@asdf3568 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, most people just do it for the money and it has to be worth the hassle for them.
@kmeyer7246
@kmeyer7246 2 жыл бұрын
Wow - the algorithm thought it would be good for me to know this now- how appropriate 😊
@asdf3568
@asdf3568 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've actually wondered what the true cause was. Now I know. Not thanks to the media.
@backintimealwyn5736
@backintimealwyn5736 2 жыл бұрын
me too , interesting, I am actually interested in truck drivers problems in foreign countries.
@robertthomas5906
@robertthomas5906 2 жыл бұрын
Now they're doing the same thing in the US. The left will blame covid or make up a new crisis.
@MrBigtime1986
@MrBigtime1986 2 жыл бұрын
the blue collar gets screwed while white collars get bonuses
@vince6219
@vince6219 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's funny that... Could a country keep going without the hard working man... No.. could a country keep going without pencil pushers.. Yes. Our economy was built by the hard working man after the war, I bet works out numbered pencil pushers by 8/2 now it's more like 5/5.. what with managers to manage managers,..
@martinprice3640
@martinprice3640 2 жыл бұрын
Everything this man has said I fully back up. Wages conditions the lot...
@moiragoldsmith7052
@moiragoldsmith7052 2 жыл бұрын
Hoping things improve massively for you all. We all need appreciation and respect for our skills and a DECENT working wage.
@andystubbins552
@andystubbins552 2 жыл бұрын
He missed the ammount of liability put on the driver. I have known people who earnt negative money for a full days work. Also working through agencies you are liable to not being paid the full hours you have worked, not to mention the 'Umberalla Companies' you are forced to sign up for - basically you pay the employers National Insurance contributions.
@mickey1299
@mickey1299 2 жыл бұрын
Actually that's true . I got caught a while back with a very big , and well known agency . Paid ni twice , employer , and employee . When i questioned it , i was told it was because i was self employed . I called them out as they wouldn't pay my full expenses , so they tried to give me even more bs . I told them straight , week to remove the umbrella , or i would remove myself . They said they couldn't , so i did . I now work for an independent agency , payee , paid holiday , pension , overtime rates , more work than i can handle , when i want it . I'm offered on the cards everyday , but i'm not interested . I retire in 5 years , so i'm gonna start winding down next year .
@johnlundy536
@johnlundy536 3 жыл бұрын
As an ex driver crap wages and treated like shite by managers glad to be out of it
@peternagy-im4be
@peternagy-im4be 2 жыл бұрын
Moronic management is the scourge of many places now.
@admiralcraddock464
@admiralcraddock464 2 жыл бұрын
My son was a truck driver. He got fed up with being treated like shit by his boss and being awsy from hone at very short notice. He's now a freight train driver on great money, final salary pension, sick pay, and six weeks holiday. He knows six months in adva what shifts he'll be working. I still cant understand why he left
@nickcastings1568
@nickcastings1568 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I didn’t pass my hgv in the ‘80s, became a train driver instead, no stress, the company I work for looks after me well and as far as I’m concerned the wages are astronomical!
@alexnelson9512
@alexnelson9512 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to be a train driver.
@alexnelson9512
@alexnelson9512 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickcastings1568 I would love to be a train driver.
@alexnelson9512
@alexnelson9512 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to be a train driver.
@5ynthesizerpatel
@5ynthesizerpatel 2 жыл бұрын
don't train drivers have unions?
@PreparedDeath
@PreparedDeath 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of people who have said to me, “why don’t you get on the lorry’s, there on good money!” And I laugh, they were, but that £10-£15 has stayed the same for years, a lot of unskilled work has caught up, it’s mental
@sparky6612
@sparky6612 2 жыл бұрын
Totally correct, the industry has brought this on themselves and got away with paying shit wages for too long, yet a train driver without the same pressures gets very high salary, with all the added perks.
@catbiscuits4424
@catbiscuits4424 2 жыл бұрын
Trade unions make that difference.
@razhusain2298
@razhusain2298 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on. Unfortunately they are doing exactly the some to all the trades.
@garygavin857
@garygavin857 2 жыл бұрын
1 year later and that shortage of drivers just grows. Wages are appalling and the conditions are no better. If this was such a rewarding job , why all the problems.
@Robbo1966
@Robbo1966 2 жыл бұрын
Totally true
@jgdooley2003
@jgdooley2003 2 жыл бұрын
@moto Line There is a branch of management which is dedicated to deskilling jobs so as to depress wages by increasing the available talent pool for a particular job. Another branch of management is dedicated to Electronic Monitoring of Performance, EMP. which devises automated ways of tracking individual work rates and work practices. The data from these methods is used to further depress wages by using the data to keep worker expectations and rate demands low. Another odious practice is outsourcing job training and education and development onto the individual worker through student loans, course fees, externalised training companies etc. pushing these costs from the companies onto the workers.
@berkotropia
@berkotropia 2 жыл бұрын
We don't need politicians but straightforward people like this driver! Thumb up!
@macieksikora7809
@macieksikora7809 2 жыл бұрын
This should be aired on every damn frequency possible right now!
@martj1313
@martj1313 2 жыл бұрын
I quit years ago when i was 30 with 8 years experience and saw that an 18 year old serving fries was getting almost as much per hour as i was.
@barriewilliams4526
@barriewilliams4526 3 жыл бұрын
I started diving trucks when I came out of the army, but very soon realised it was a mugs game for all the reasons (& more) stated in the video. It doesn't matter what industry you're in, if you want good people & you want to hang onto them, simple. PAY THEM A DECENT WAGE! Not rocket science 😃
@peternagy-im4be
@peternagy-im4be 2 жыл бұрын
I remember trucking companies hiring ex army blokes. Most of them tried other driving jobs but they said HGV suited them better because nobody was on their back all day.
@johnallan1134
@johnallan1134 2 жыл бұрын
@@peternagy-im4be I remember them too, in fact I'm still waiting at a roundabout on them moving off..
@royhardy407
@royhardy407 2 жыл бұрын
Not just decent wages which is of course primary, but respect for their professional abilities and recognising that without capable contented drivers the country could easily grind to a very sharp halt. I aint a driver but have been involved in the industry for nearly 30 years in sales and drivers are the bedrock of any company.
@thelawenforcerhd9654
@thelawenforcerhd9654 2 жыл бұрын
You know they hire ex military because they are not very smart right?
@priscillaroberts7945
@priscillaroberts7945 2 жыл бұрын
Pay peanuts get monkeys. X
@PETE4955
@PETE4955 2 жыл бұрын
The UK government would never comprehend that its totally beyond them having said that so a lot of other things. Just shows going to Oxford does not make you intelligent just sound intelligent.
@paulwilliams5013
@paulwilliams5013 2 жыл бұрын
...nail on the head!! I also think that they are conditioned to totally underestimate the intelligence of the general public.
@mickey1299
@mickey1299 2 жыл бұрын
I would even question that last sentence . Trust me i live near Oxford !
@tonyfurneaux3399
@tonyfurneaux3399 2 жыл бұрын
After 19 yrs driving in UK I moved to Canada, same disrespect here, from management. I was fired from driving fuel truck, cos I have had enough of the CRAP, still love driving, and could get drawn back, but for now, I laugh at the problems in the industry.
@richardbourne6743
@richardbourne6743 3 жыл бұрын
As a Retired truck driver your spot on.
@martin5504
@martin5504 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing wrong is that employers don't pay enough to live.
@lacdirk
@lacdirk 3 жыл бұрын
They can't pay more if customers are not willing to pay more for haulage.
@gbjanuary
@gbjanuary 3 жыл бұрын
@@lacdirk more money will go to management not drivers like other business money at the top.
@lacdirk
@lacdirk 3 жыл бұрын
@@gbjanuary That is certainly a danger, but with so many small companies (50,000+ firms do haulage in the UK, I think), that would come out and provide a competitive edge to less greedy small firms. Either way, there's not much upside for driver pay and QoL changes if the customer doesn't provide more money and/or more flexibility, is there?
@duncansteward4331
@duncansteward4331 3 жыл бұрын
@@lacdirk thats nonsense, customers should pay the real rate, if they cant afford then go with out.
@seamusburke9101
@seamusburke9101 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody should have anything to do with haulage, its a mugs game. You just get disrespected and treated like a second class citizen by people who arent fit to wipe your boots. I packed it in 30 years ago, best thing I have ever done. Didnt know what life was about til I got away from that stupid game.
@MrHowardMoon
@MrHowardMoon 2 жыл бұрын
This video aged well. It's also an issue for a lot of industries through-out the UK. I think lockdown showed people there is more to life than the rat race and working your entire life for a measely wage and medical problems so some CEO can retire at 40 with millions isn't worth it.
@44lala16
@44lala16 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how the solution is to charge the consumer more for goods - rather than the greedy corporates dipping into their profits.
@ryanbennett1024
@ryanbennett1024 2 жыл бұрын
The industry has totally done this to itself. Greedy operators.
@andyontourbrokendreams7120
@andyontourbrokendreams7120 2 жыл бұрын
Too right mate. Reep what you sow. KARMA
@martinpip8212
@martinpip8212 2 жыл бұрын
Greedy agencies
@ryanbennett1024
@ryanbennett1024 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyontourbrokendreams7120 I’ve walked out of a job before, Tesco it was. I turned up with a trailer went to goods in office, O said to the girl behind the desk (very politely) “hello, have are you? I’ve brought this trailer up from Tesco Carlisle, due to a hang up I only have 43 minutes left on my card would it possible to get on a bay straight away so I can drop the trailer” her reply was “sit over there and I’ll tell you where to go and what to do, you don’t tell me” I walked out of the office and dropped the trailer in the parking bay and left paperwork in back of the trailer.
@N1611n
@N1611n 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyontourbrokendreams7120 That sums it up perfectly mate, I have had similar experiences.
@N1611n
@N1611n 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanbennett1024 That's the way i used to treat the arseholes, well done Ryan.
@paolotabone8143
@paolotabone8143 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a trucker, but I have huge respect for you all. You keep the world supplied with food, electronics and pretty much anything else that is physical and to do this you need to put up with appalling working conditions, very long hours, days away from home and road rage (to name a few). The least companies could do is pay a decent wage.
@tonyfurneaux3399
@tonyfurneaux3399 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thank you for your understanding, I drove in UK for 19yrs until 2006, I then moved to Canada, I drove a fuel truck to the Farms in Saskatchewan, central Canada, same disrespect here, now at home on dole, cos I won't be messed around by truck companies anymore. Done.
@Stszelec01
@Stszelec01 2 жыл бұрын
Yes also thank to their shity wages we have cheap products becasue if they were paid better wages we woud got more expensive products No economy isint auto pathological...
@MRFUCKOFF202
@MRFUCKOFF202 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stszelec01 You don't have cheap products. The margins on many products are huge, e.g. electronics, clothing, cars. The wages allow the people at the top to keep more cash for themselves, it's that simple.
@Stszelec01
@Stszelec01 2 жыл бұрын
@@MRFUCKOFF202 by cheap I meant that if cost of transport rise up that every thing will become more pricey
@Mirvra
@Mirvra 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stszelec01 And what Nublet is saying is that the price increase isn't because of the transport people... They're not the ones going ''Aight, you have to pay more for this product because we want a larger salary'' Instead it's the company that sells the product or the store that buys it and then sells it that goes ''Hey, Transport costs are up... Our (Hypothetical Number) margin is now lower'' ''Quick! make the customers pay the extra money so that we can still have our margins intact!''
@mrh5505
@mrh5505 2 жыл бұрын
A great video and hitting the nail right on the head many times 👍 Things are starting to move in the right direction at last ..
@stevemchadd
@stevemchadd 2 жыл бұрын
When I owned my own company I looked into getting and operating our own truck but discovered how bloody difficult it was to do it, just the bureaucracy alone was a nightmare, having to employ a specialist transport manager and all the other BS???. Any chance of earning money outside of business use would have hardly covered to costs.
@modernidiot9124
@modernidiot9124 3 жыл бұрын
I got out last year after 18 years so glad to get my life and sanity back.
@justbeconfidentbro1286
@justbeconfidentbro1286 2 жыл бұрын
Is it really that bad? I was doing tug driving on site and they wanted to train me up but said I would be stuck for years with them if they paid lol so I never ended up going for it. Some of the foreign drivers on agency were terrible tbh one forgot to put the legs down when parking up lmao trailer ended up sliding downhill right Infront of me. Others ripping curtains etc it's nuts out there. My point is: if I paid for my own license now: I'd be rusty as it's been 5 years what's my best bet to get to grips with it or has the moment passed? You think places will lend a unit and traileto practice with on site for a few days as well as the exam?
@modernidiot9124
@modernidiot9124 2 жыл бұрын
@@justbeconfidentbro1286 seriously avoid the road haulage game,instead of going for an HGV license spend your money on learning on becoming a plant operator like a 360 or a JCB
@justbeconfidentbro1286
@justbeconfidentbro1286 2 жыл бұрын
@@modernidiot9124 thanks I used to have a mini 360 on the gas at national grid but got tired of shovel and trench work as well as wearing hard hats during trench work above ground height lol prefer something indoors yet see the country and a cab is much cleaner, drier and easier on back than shovel monkey work. I was thinking of JCB but undecided
@abc33944
@abc33944 2 жыл бұрын
Im training as a bodyshop refinisher... 1.5 years of traing and thank fak ill be out after 12 years driviling
@modernidiot9124
@modernidiot9124 2 жыл бұрын
@@abc33944 good move mate,seriously you will feel so much better away from the driving industry.
@gordonjamieson861
@gordonjamieson861 3 жыл бұрын
I was a H G V. 1 driver for 25 years. Whatever We did no matter how hard we worked it was never Good enough. Whatever extra you did for the Boss was very soon forgotten and just didn’t count. You were expected to try to get around the log book and then the tack o graph. If you didn’t then they got someone else who would. Very stressful job. Always trying to short change your money. Crap job. Only one job worst is Coaching.
@mikeagate
@mikeagate 2 жыл бұрын
I am seeing this in September 2021! Over 2 years later and we are still at square one. This tells me that there is something structurally wrong in the industry. It has nothing to do with externalities and everything to do with the industry itself. The solution is simple: Increase the wages of the drivers, allow them to operate as Ltd Companies and I will guarantee that there will be flood of qualified drivers putting an end to this.
@therealevild2565
@therealevild2565 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm a shop steward at a major bus company in Denmark, and we're facing the exact same situation: Nobody wants to be a driver. We - as you lot - also has to deal with unhygienic facilities (if there are any facilities?!), unpleasant working hours and obviousy a wage that does not meet the requirements of the job. And we are also faced with a laugh when we point out, that paying people a fair wage would solve the recruitment problems. We are currently trying to better the wages for the transport industry through bargaining within the union / employer system, but it is a long and difficult road. The employers are trying to wiggle their way out of it, by threats like the import of workers from Poland, Germany or wherever they can get their hands on somebody with a drivers license. But the fact remains, that nobody in their right mind will stay in the industry, if they get a better offer. The work and the wages just don't add up anymore. You are fighting out fight as well, and thank you for telling the truth: That the employment situation in the industry doesn't have anything to do with drivers getter older, EU-affairs or a poor branding of the industry. The primary problem is, that the employers won't pay a fair wage! Cheers from Denmark Dan
@vanman5593
@vanman5593 3 жыл бұрын
AND THAT GUY IS THE MOST HONEST PERSON IN THE INDUSTRY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@edshike7581
@edshike7581 4 жыл бұрын
Got out of the game 14 years ago after a divorce caused in part by the job , and it was the best thing I did , I would never go back to it
@davidyoung9561
@davidyoung9561 3 жыл бұрын
I love my mrs and she would not put up with me being away all the time so I am not interested in the industry anymore. It seems the only jobs available are agency work and the vacancies that pay less than £10 an hour. Agencies often mess you about and as for the pay, I wouldn't get out of bed for that.
@thefurrytrucker3883
@thefurrytrucker3883 2 жыл бұрын
Costs and wages are definitely two of the biggest problems when it comes to recruitment into the industry but conditions are the biggest problem when it comes to retaining drivers.
@markplain2555
@markplain2555 2 жыл бұрын
In North America, a significant number of truck drivers are driver/owners ie: they own the truck and run it as a business. They are allowed to drive for longer hours than European drivers and their standard trucks have a little more capacity ie: they appear to have the ability to make more revenue. . There are some amazing websites that allow me as a manufacturer who needs a skid to be delivered to have truck drivers bid on the rate for delivery. I have actually seen truck drivers sitting at a table at a truck stop with their laptop out, checking their current route and bidding on the website. , I guess the North American model allows drivers to participate in the market.
@randomzocker8956
@randomzocker8956 2 жыл бұрын
thats a great system, as u said the biggest hurdle for this system is the eu laws which restrict time they are alowed to drive. and they are controlled frequently
@xAKALISx
@xAKALISx 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, the load board. Some corporate outfits like TMC use to subcontract their loads and i took a few. CRST did it too. Plenty of stuff out there, just got to sniff around. Sht stays on the load board for too long, you're not paying enough..
@ricbchirop4355
@ricbchirop4355 3 жыл бұрын
Every thing he said is 100% true (ex class 1 driver 29years )
@derekgranger8228
@derekgranger8228 2 жыл бұрын
Did 25 years, I wouldn't do another 25 minutes for that very reason
@hanserikkratholmrasmussen6623
@hanserikkratholmrasmussen6623 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, though danish drivers are treated a little better than the British. I don't miss taking all that shit from dispatchers and truck owners.
@stevejh69
@stevejh69 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting and you nailed it.
@bryanjennings7821
@bryanjennings7821 2 жыл бұрын
The same is happening in construction, and other fields. Profit above all else is the way. Greedy corporate profiteering.
@Stszelec01
@Stszelec01 2 жыл бұрын
No its not greedy its just celebrating main ideal of capitalism Someone must be poor so someone can be rich
@johnadams3730
@johnadams3730 3 жыл бұрын
I was a owner driver on Tarmac for about 20 years 5 to 6 days a week come Sunday I would be doing servicing with the fitter packed up Five years ago.Now looking back it was crap after a year in retirement I went back driving a van my poxy savings ran out still driving a van at 71.My advice to young man is don’t become a poxy lorry driver.
@johnadams3730
@johnadams3730 2 жыл бұрын
There should be a ‘’drivers’’Union one with some teeth someone to speak up for drivers,then the government would take note.
@nemo.87
@nemo.87 2 жыл бұрын
71 ? isnt that retirement age ?
@johnadams3730
@johnadams3730 2 жыл бұрын
@@nemo.87 you retire when your dead these days.
@ccooper8785
@ccooper8785 2 жыл бұрын
Your conclusions are absolutely correct. When I passed my HGV test I was completely unsuccessful in finding a job. Not a single company was remotely interested despite me being willing to work any shift pattern and any hours. I ended up with a job in a totally unrelated field that, while being low paid, trained me AND put me through college. After a couple of years there was no way I would have considered any driving job. Employers did not, and still don't, want to train people. They want fully trained staff willing to work for minimum wage. If it keeps going in this direction then soon candidates will be expected to have a degree plus 20 years experience and still be 25 and willing to work for minimum wage on a zero-hours contract...
@Stszelec01
@Stszelec01 2 жыл бұрын
That means automation of that field is speeding up becasue workers are too expensive
@CallumCarmicheal
@CallumCarmicheal 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stszelec01 workers are not too expensive. It's the lack of willing to pay a decent wage and to train new workers. Pair that with the whole media touting the end of truckers with automation since 2016, no one wants to pay for their own license which leaves a very few amount of people going into the field and even fewer even thinking about it.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stszelec01 You’re assuming automation would be cheap enough, and good enough to replace real drivers in the near future.
@Stszelec01
@Stszelec01 2 жыл бұрын
@@neilkurzman4907 the more autonomic wechicles on road the easier it will be
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stszelec01 Assuming vehicles exist. Do you know what else would solve the problem? Star Trek transporters. But those don’t exist yet either. You need to solve the problem today with today’s technology.
@mohammedali9952
@mohammedali9952 2 жыл бұрын
2021 September, and petrol pumps have run dry and shelves empty and overall prices for food and other products have gone threw the roof. When on a island and your importing 8/10 products from foreign lands . Lorry drivers very very very important. Simples.
@andyashton7049
@andyashton7049 2 жыл бұрын
So right in everything he says but forgot to mention the hoops we have to jump through to keep our licence! CPC bollocks, urban driving courses, extortionate fees for medicals and eye tests! Government and operators have only got themselves to blame!!
@thanksbob638
@thanksbob638 3 жыл бұрын
My old man drove artics for 40 odd years, never even passed the test, was grandfathered in, he jacked it in when they wanted medicals every year. 😁 He reckons he wouldn't touch it these days, would've stayed on the farm labouring. I remember his old DAF back in the 70s, no bed, he slept in the seat and me as a kid on school holidays, sleeping in the other. He was like a kid at Xmas when he finally got a cab with a bed 🤣
@leeloxleigh1471
@leeloxleigh1471 2 жыл бұрын
As an exclass one driver I fully respect your Old man. Hats off to him.
@Thecryptoconspiracist
@Thecryptoconspiracist 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t really give a fuck
@guitarlover302
@guitarlover302 2 жыл бұрын
As a car driver see trucks parked up in lay byes over night - seems a tough life to be away over night sleeping in a cab - I would be scared of being attacked and robbed The road conditions and stress must be terrible stuck in jams and then pressurised to make deliveries Shocked to see how low wages are given training and responsibility
@raveniagalactica
@raveniagalactica 2 жыл бұрын
in truck stops in France truckers get attacked and killed with katanas and swords and the police there don't give a damn
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 2 жыл бұрын
@@raveniagalactica - Not disputing what you say, but a katana IS a sword.
@raveniagalactica
@raveniagalactica 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirrathersplendid4825 indeed, i was referring to them as that to make a distinction between european types and the other ones. What's infuriating is that the media barely report on these attacks and when they do they label them as knife attacks and some even write "alleged" killing and crap like that. Here's an example: trans.info/en/39-year-old-trucker-killed-after-stabbing-in-french-rest-area-237393#
@maxxod1
@maxxod1 2 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian driver, I am dumbfounded by how terrible the rates are there. Doing the conversion £10 is about $17 CDN. That is basically minimum wage over here. Now I realize that not everyone will get the top tier paying jobs but within two years I was upwards of $80 000. Which is still well above the £45 000 top wage the other driver was talking about. What’s worse is the average cost of living here is a lot lower. How the hell do you stay afloat with those kinds of wages? Seriously.
@jasxx1108
@jasxx1108 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video Topman Respect ✊
@BritishTrucking
@BritishTrucking 2 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@antonyholpin1436
@antonyholpin1436 2 жыл бұрын
When I started driving 25 years ago all agencies paid time and half after 8 hours. Then exell logistics said they wouldn't pay overtime rates. Then they all got together and stopped paying overtime after 8 hours but still expect you to work up to 15 hours a day. Greedy bastards are getting what they deserve!
@SiliconBong
@SiliconBong 2 жыл бұрын
NZ obliges truckies to rest and have stops. (we don't know how lucky we are)
@remyllebeau77
@remyllebeau77 2 жыл бұрын
How is that possible to force drivers to work 15 hr days? Even the USA has an 11 hr limit per day.
@prioris55555
@prioris55555 2 жыл бұрын
@@remyllebeau77 I think he means they don't get paid for times when truck not moving so can be that much. Some truck drivers can spends many days waiting for load so they are really screwed. They don't get paid for loading and unloading time.
@remyllebeau77
@remyllebeau77 2 жыл бұрын
@@prioris55555 Yeah that does sound really terrible.
@simonroberts33
@simonroberts33 3 жыл бұрын
I was a long distance driver, away in Europe all week and getting good money. Then the Eastern Europeans came over and suddenly they were having all the long trips. My nights out were stopped, my hours were shortened and I lost 1200 a month, not making enough to live on. Now I am a van driver and earning enough to live, with some to save at the end of the month. I`ll never go back to HGV driving.
@bennevis6843
@bennevis6843 3 жыл бұрын
They ruined the building trade as well.
@stevenallison840
@stevenallison840 2 жыл бұрын
Yep he said it and it's true
@dmitryc5685
@dmitryc5685 2 жыл бұрын
Being an Eastern European Myself, I could never imagine that We ourselves would experience what You talk about. Now We get labor from Ukraine, so no raise for Us here. A race to bottom?
@jollyfishstanton8672
@jollyfishstanton8672 2 жыл бұрын
@@dmitryc5685 Hi Dmitry,this methods will companies and firms use everywhere all the time in the future in all trades.The greed is in human nature 😕
@marvinstorm9153
@marvinstorm9153 2 жыл бұрын
Good for them!
@josephmcmullan7769
@josephmcmullan7769 2 жыл бұрын
Very well put and hit the nail right on the head
@oby-1607
@oby-1607 2 жыл бұрын
All of this video is absolutely true. I made the mistake of working for a company in British Columbia as an owner/operator. As an owner/operator I paid for my truck, I paid for my maintenance(tires, oil changes, shop repairs), I paid for my insurance and paid for my fuel. They dispatched me loads with pay of approximately $1.15 per mile. After being there 9 years with over 2 million miles( I had worked at another company as a driver for 12 years before this job) of accident free driving and every load delivered on time, they hauled me into the office to complain that they were losing money on me. This actually was an excuse to punish me for not getting along with one of their senior dispatchers. They threatened me with termination and negative job recognition if I didn't give them 7 days a week instead of the 6 I was already giving them. They had their favorites who all got the dedicated routes and pin to pin loads. I was lucky to get a 250 mile run with me having to assist loading and unloading. After their one way court with not wanting to listen to my side, I made the decision to quit. I was gone after a couple of months. I got another job in a warehouse in receiving and made comparable net pay (no truck expenses and living on the road) and am home every night with family. Now when I see their trucks on the road, I feel sorry for the saps working for them and no amount of money would take me back there. People wonder why there is a shortage of good (emphasis on GOOD) drivers. It because they are tired of the crap treatment by companies and their policies.
@bradm7046
@bradm7046 3 жыл бұрын
I've a C+E and a D, I won't drive either because of the low rates of pay, high amount of agro and terrible hours.
@stuartpattison1576
@stuartpattison1576 2 жыл бұрын
True mate. You get more driving 7.5 tonners.
@nemo.87
@nemo.87 2 жыл бұрын
@@stuartpattison1576 i drive a 3.5 ton van and make on average £11 an hour.
@MrDruism
@MrDruism 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how I ended up watching this video as I am an American and not I this industry, but I found this to be very interesting as these issues echo across my country in a variety of professions. I'll give you a good example: Ive been working in the restaurant industry since I was 16 (I'm 40 now) and in my position as a server/waiter I've always made good money. I earn $13.00 an hour in my state plus tips, depending on the restaurant and how nice it is most places I'll make between $75-$150 a night in tips. I won't work at a place if I don't average $100 a night in tips. most of that tip money is made in a short time, around 4 hours and the rest of the shift is slow so you'll probably go home. My position has always been consistent as long as I don't move out of thew west coast. In 43 states they have what's called a "right to Work" law which is complete bullshit. In those states you can be paid as low as $2.13 an hour because you make tips, but they tax your tips so for a 80 hour check you'll get between $50-100. You still make good tips, but your paycheck is a fucking joke. The restaurants can afford to pay a real wage as shown in the 7 states that don't have these laws, they just don't wanna pay them. Whats worse is what's happened to the cooks. When I started out back in the 90's, I would work with 2 cooks that got paid around $15-17 an hour, nowadays at that same place you would work with 3 or 4 cooks making minimum wage, and they can't cook for shit. The big corporate restaurants decided to fire all their skilled cooks and hire any dumbass that can lift a spatula so they can save a few bucks, but its costing them quality and consistency. Nowadays the only people they can hire to cook are immigrants and felons out of prison because they are the types they can exploit. This isn't at every restaurant, Just the corporate chain places like Dennys, The Olive Garden, Chili's, Red Robin etc. Cooks are making about $5 less an hour then they did 25 years ago!!
@mrlennon4869
@mrlennon4869 2 жыл бұрын
if they are doing this to the workers i'd wonder the qaulity of the meat the use, cutting corners every road possible. serving good paying customers low quality meat i'd say
@osborne9255
@osborne9255 2 жыл бұрын
I just thought of a new scheme: Parliament to Highway.
@richardpotts5186
@richardpotts5186 2 жыл бұрын
Im a PCV (bus) driver and people are leaving in droves. Crap pay, long hours & treated like shite. I start a new job soon and it aint driving buses or coaches.
@hakanyaras7428
@hakanyaras7428 3 жыл бұрын
Lack of pay mate, amount of things that's required of a truck driver is so much, but the pay is like a joke and generally it's all one man jobs, it's getting worst
@creepybastard3165
@creepybastard3165 3 жыл бұрын
I quit class one. I ended up with high blood pressure. By the time u travel to work travel home it's a 17 hour day. Spoke to worse than dog doo at every place I deliver to. Long long long stressful hours dealing with lunatics on the Rd. The way u are spoken to by transport and every one in the industry is unreal. Other lorry drivers are the worst human beings I ever ever met.
@BritishTrucking
@BritishTrucking 3 жыл бұрын
There are many drivers who suffer from high blood pressure due to the stresses of the job, it is very difficult to take a step back and take the day in your stride without chasing the clock all the time, the industry certainly needs to change if it's going to encourage new drivers in the future.
@welshdai4094
@welshdai4094 3 жыл бұрын
And then they reduce ur brake to 9 hrs
@creepybastard3165
@creepybastard3165 3 жыл бұрын
@@musti12312 all stress . Traffic idiots on the rd and 15 hour work days
@creepybastard3165
@creepybastard3165 2 жыл бұрын
@Richard Dickinson I fucked of wagon driving went working in a warehouse. During the induction they basically told us oh if the drivers say anything etc us know well ban them of the site . Basically your free to abuse drivers.
@aureliobrighton1871
@aureliobrighton1871 2 жыл бұрын
Germany here ... being on the receiving end of goods I would happily pay some loading on the prices (which have come to waste rates in wide areas anyway) if it directly went to the ladies and lads rolling them around paying all the responsibilities and sacrifices just partly mentioned ... see, when it gets cheaper to write off cargo (or shipment :) ) and even rolling stock than giving fellow people the chance to build and maintain a decent living grim repercussions are inevitable ... leaving alone the effects on someones self ... at least I would not fancy to be stiched up by a butcher just because he can handle a knife ... weird fact on the side, getting the licence to drive a 'white' cab in Munich used to be nearly as huge an effort as in London ... now, because of many chauffeurs quit for Corona reasons, all you need is a valid driving licence and health check and one does not even have to be up to the language reasonably ... not very reassuring, is it .. Cheers and all the best . 🚣
@radamson1
@radamson1 2 жыл бұрын
I left because of horrendous traffic, out-of-control road rage, low wages, and stupid red tape.
@steveatkinson689
@steveatkinson689 3 жыл бұрын
And then there’s the CPC, an obvious money making venture if ever one existed and I weighed my licence of 40 years ‘in’ because of this utter bullshit !!!
@seamusburke9101
@seamusburke9101 3 жыл бұрын
CPC should be abolished.
@paul-c7541
@paul-c7541 3 жыл бұрын
We had the same module over & over until the time required was up joke, listening to an instructor talking about himself all the time , it's a wonder he got out of the building a live.
@steveatkinson689
@steveatkinson689 3 жыл бұрын
@@paul-c7541 Us too Paul and which is where I bailed out !!
@martinstewart5205
@martinstewart5205 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more what a load of shite CPC is jobs created by bureaucrats for the boys same modules over and over again I have been driving trucks and buses for 41yrs and I’m listening to an 18yr old telling me about three points of entry into my cabin for f...msg sake any wonder they can’t get drivers we should grind to a halt for a minimum of 18£ an hour
@andreawood6312
@andreawood6312 2 жыл бұрын
It was the germans and the Spanish who brought the cpc in . Then turned around and didn't want it! And guess what we kept it
@slambies
@slambies 2 жыл бұрын
We can’t even use the toilets,at some delivery points,that tells you everything you need to know.
@kragger1985
@kragger1985 2 жыл бұрын
I just stop and piss anywhere mate, with no hesitation. Only place I wouldn't piss would be near a school
@shanenolan704
@shanenolan704 2 жыл бұрын
I've refused to do the delivery if they refused me toilets, works everytime
@abc33944
@abc33944 2 жыл бұрын
i usually piss on the closet DHL manager or at best transport staff
@twilightroach4274
@twilightroach4274 2 жыл бұрын
Lol it’s exactly the same rubbish over here in Australia, rubbish money, rubbish conditions, rubbish work life balance (unless you are a workaholic) over regulated buy bureaucracy. Fines bigger than the wages you can earn. But in reality there is no actual driver shortage, just a shortage of drivers that are desperate enough to have to drive trucks🤷‍♂️
@RavBarring
@RavBarring 2 жыл бұрын
Wages look like they haven’t kept up with inflation. (The pound/dollar losing purchasing power)
@Tarzenz
@Tarzenz 2 жыл бұрын
Added to that, Biden' s Trillions on infrastructure stimulus is like Robot mugrabi on steroids. Insanity assured in the geo stratosphere. I SIMPLY love , Vladimir M Putin.
@paulmulks
@paulmulks 3 жыл бұрын
Bang on! The industry is fucked purely because firms don't make it worth spending thousands to obtain a class one license
@andrewgage6942
@andrewgage6942 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps they should look at the management in these firms, bullying is rife, I'm earning less now than I was in 1998, when the doors opened and the Eastern Europeans came over, the wages dropped or stayed stagnant, the big companies abused the Eastern Europeans, irregular hours, long hours, then being treated like shit by management, wages wise, £45k, you can't even get that hauling fuel, wages have dropped considerably, I wouldn't recommend driving a truck to my worst enemy, it's just a quicker route to the grave Well said Jeff
@billfairless6256
@billfairless6256 2 жыл бұрын
Great video truckies in Australia suffer the same problems with companies trying to cut costs and finding a lack of drivers.
@dozergyp
@dozergyp 2 жыл бұрын
I am a retired HGV drive, Would like to work , Great getting all drivers from ( Army and prisons etc) Most firms won’t take any one on because they have no experience Keep safe out there 🚛👍
@CT-pv9gu
@CT-pv9gu 4 жыл бұрын
Because its a terrible job. Not many people are going to do 15 hour days with some nights out for 8 pound an hour... For those thinking about doing it, don't even bother. Do something else.
@andyr4735
@andyr4735 3 жыл бұрын
@Otto Elian they dont
@jakewhitear1928
@jakewhitear1928 3 жыл бұрын
Best to move around and eventually ur find a better lorry job that pays well
@ManimalDetroit
@ManimalDetroit 3 жыл бұрын
My friend works 10 hours a day 5 days a week and get £2000 per month. I don’t think that’s bad
@creepybastard3165
@creepybastard3165 3 жыл бұрын
@fart locker i was going try buses as hgv driving the hours and stress I ended up in hospital.
@creepybastard3165
@creepybastard3165 3 жыл бұрын
@fart locker try driving wagons by the time u travel to travel home 17 hour shift. Then ur back in 9 hours later thats including travel,and eating. Every single place u deliver to reports u and speaks to u like shit. I ended up in hospital with high blood pressure and I trained in gyms healthy for years. Lunatics on the motorway trying to get u killed or locked up for hitting them in a crash.
@sbhamba
@sbhamba 2 жыл бұрын
It’s like all jobs in the UK make the owners rich and don’t ask questions or a pay rise. Mechanics are the same low wages have to invest in own tools and be treated like a knob. 😕
@nullvoid564
@nullvoid564 2 жыл бұрын
Our system only rewards owners after i bought my house off my landlord the amount of money i saved was night and day plus i can improve the house and reduce my bills i could also grow my own food(when you rent you can be evicted at any time if the landlord or his relative just plain wants to live in the house even if you have paid months in advance and never missed a payment) and hypothetically i can now buy equipment to make things although a lathe would not go down well in a residential area, i could soundproof the garage though but costs apply
@AI-kt1gs
@AI-kt1gs 2 жыл бұрын
I’m one of them Romanians who figured that after paying rent and necesities I’m left with the exact living standard that I have in my own country…so why be treated by Brexiteers like I’m subhuman infecting their national identity (somehow). I do miss the reasonable people that live in Britain, and hope it all turns well for them. Peace!
@nullvoid564
@nullvoid564 2 жыл бұрын
@@AI-kt1gs if a bunch of immigrants moved into Romania and suddenly housing costs skyrocketed and wages dropped, would you not also want to limit the number of people coming into Romania? There are simply not enough jobs and houses and if you buy a patch of empty land to build a house the local council will do everything they can to stop you because they are always run by the worst kind of boomer. we also have a ton of empty houses held by Chinese and other vulture investors because they sell them when the price goes up
@AI-kt1gs
@AI-kt1gs 2 жыл бұрын
@@nullvoid564 The problem is a mixture of economical ideology and political ideology…it’s a matter of practicing good policy like the ones that were put in place during the period I was living in GB, greed took over the world…and scared people who put their hopes in their liders have now turned on the people who have done nothing but produce products and services…
@nullvoid564
@nullvoid564 2 жыл бұрын
@@AI-kt1gs The amount of EU citizens who were given UK citizenship after the referendum is higher than the total amount of EU nationals in the uk at the time of the referendum, People who want the jobs/housing may be trying to get them to leave but our gov isnt they give citizenship to anyone who asks. as long as you don't plan on being a productive contributing citizen We have a system where immigrants from the third world can show up in dinghy's and get free house, free money and free everything but actual working people who try to earn a living immigrants and locals alike are taxed into oblivion and pay extortionate rates for housing. Our politicians don't deal with the actual problem so the fact that anyone in this country has any faith in our leaders is mind boggling.
@mgtowp.l.7756
@mgtowp.l.7756 2 жыл бұрын
Canadian Here.. Canada, and the U.K. need to join the "CANZUK" free trade agreement.. The sooner the better.. By the way here in Canada, and south of the border there is a big shortage of truck drivers. .too..
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