HGV DRIVER CRISIS, HERE'S WHY

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Reverend Simon Sideways

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@ElvisPresley68
@ElvisPresley68 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest about it ! We are only classed as professional when it comes to prosecution for any offence committed!
@sleepingwarrior4618
@sleepingwarrior4618 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. If it was about safety,there would be no money involved at all.
@andrewwright.
@andrewwright. 3 жыл бұрын
The professional bit come into play when the boss says hurry up or don't worry about strapping it down ect ect. You know. .arrr that tire will be ok mate just crack on.
@MrGreen_
@MrGreen_ 3 жыл бұрын
Well said
@barriewright2857
@barriewright2857 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevecane1987 same 100%.
@garyash4823
@garyash4823 3 жыл бұрын
How very true
@harrybrown3657
@harrybrown3657 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on Simon, I'm one of the 70,000. I won't go back. No more snotty nose kid debriefs, no more 14 hour shifts. No more 3am starts.
@craigprice1567
@craigprice1567 3 жыл бұрын
I am also one of the 70,000 that won’t go back.I now work in a clean factory we have breaks every two hours, and two weeks holiday for Christmas.the money is about the same the industry has got what it deserves.
@Nononsensefella
@Nononsensefella 3 жыл бұрын
What industry have you switched too?
@craigprice1567
@craigprice1567 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nononsensefella I am now working in an electronics factory making circuit boards.the work is clean and dry with no heavy lifting.
@davidyoung9561
@davidyoung9561 3 жыл бұрын
I did it for two months with Palmer and Harvey until they went bust. Two months was bad enough. I am another of the 70,000 drivers that won't be going back. The job is shit. I most certainly don't miss the arsehole shop keepers, the irresponsible planners, the 15 hour days, fighting through traffic, stupid car drivers and the list goes on. I don't miss the job one bit. I feel gutted I wasted 3 grand doing the training. My advice to anyone thinking about doing it is don't, just don't.
@davidyoung9561
@davidyoung9561 3 жыл бұрын
@@craigprice1567 And no arsehole car drivers and no DVSA trying to bankrupt you. Fair play to you. You made the right move.
@chriswilliams3801
@chriswilliams3801 3 жыл бұрын
I've just spent the last 45 mins reading some of these posts, they should all be printed out and dumped on the steps of Downing Street, with a message saying " Mr Johnson, here's your logistics problems"
@stephengraham1153
@stephengraham1153 2 жыл бұрын
You are under the illusion that "Mr Johnson" gives a f*ck.
@alanimals
@alanimals 2 жыл бұрын
45 mins you say, it's time to start driving again pal...
@chriswilliams3801
@chriswilliams3801 2 жыл бұрын
@@alanimals I do drive pal
@alanimals
@alanimals 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriswilliams3801 Roger that breaker.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 2 жыл бұрын
Hear hear!! 👏👏 (A lot more 💩 than that should be dumped on BoJo's doorstep, as well!! 😏)
@deputyVH
@deputyVH 2 жыл бұрын
I notice that French truckers, when they strike, bring the country to it's knees. Truckers are vital.
@alancalow3622
@alancalow3622 2 жыл бұрын
That's the REAL reason the CPC was brought in. If you remember the go slow on motorways by truckers after the massive fuel price hikes. Governments thinking was if you lose your CPC, you lose your job! That's the reason many of us wont ever come back!
@stephengraham1153
@stephengraham1153 2 жыл бұрын
I get the impression that the French don't put up with any BS from their government, whereas here the majority is forever tugging it's collective forelock, irrespective of the amount of BS dumped on them.
@hypnoraythompson5824
@hypnoraythompson5824 3 жыл бұрын
I drove for just over 38 years for a total of three different employers and absolutely loved my job. My last employer was a family concern great Boss. total years working for him, 21 years. He sold up to a National waste company and I worked for them for 5 years until I could take no more and broke down at the wheel of my truck at the start of my day (4.45am) I had a month off due to stress, this was the first time I have ever been off work due to illness. I cutup my licence, threw all the bloody paperwork and course certificates in the bin and went self employed gardening 13 months before my 65th birthday. I have never been so happy as I am now . My age now is 70 and I will retire at the end of this year. .
@notch7139
@notch7139 2 жыл бұрын
gardening is a nice job I bet it made a great change -and made you fitter!
@jodavies8952
@jodavies8952 2 жыл бұрын
Well said, and well done! 😁
@stevecunningham6537
@stevecunningham6537 2 жыл бұрын
Must be something about the 38 year mark. I've hit a brick wall used to love the job When I was home I wanted to be in truck I now dread starting my week. Just grin an bear it now. An it's true Looking for 4 days a week now definitely no weekends. My age I have nothing to prove to anyone, Just a wage I need. As I'm not used to people il have to keep driving. For there safety not mine. That's why us hardcore still drive, we can't put up with bullshit. So we drive till we die 😂
@Hedge-Hog
@Hedge-Hog 2 жыл бұрын
And when your boss sold up you got nothing. Same happend to a mate of mine he jumped of a bridge abot 12month later.
@stevecunningham6537
@stevecunningham6537 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hedge-Hog that's just sad mate, surely he could have found another job..seen a guy go off bridge A50 start off lockdown there were a few evrey day,. Hit the artic fkd the roof an he went between cab an trailer was messy. I thought at time a 18 fyt high bridge to jump off to end it poo3 soul he must have been in hell. Even all the sht with lockdown I couldn't get why any one would do it..
@Taz6688
@Taz6688 3 жыл бұрын
The only shortage in the UK is employers paying the correct wage, there's plenty of drivers out there. Employment agencies should be banned if an employer can pay their premium, they can pay a decent wage to drivers, employment agencies just let employers avoid the responsibility of taking someone on.
@jasinere35
@jasinere35 3 жыл бұрын
now that i can agree on i worked for a short while straight after YTS for a guy who took the piss with the wages so i just walked off the job
@yumyumbaboon
@yumyumbaboon 3 жыл бұрын
Not just in the UK - I’ve worked with loyal commitment for the same French company and not had a pay rise in over 10 years!
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 3 жыл бұрын
SPOT ON!! I'm in Engineering its exactly the same. GARBAGE wages high amount of responsibility, no respect, lots of micro-management from non technical know it all managers and HR reps. Just like HGV drivers, engineers must have formal qualifications to get the job in the first place only to earn less than some kid dunking fries at Mcdonalds.
@rct2
@rct2 3 жыл бұрын
It's all about the profit margins and it's also cheaper than a proper employee contract.
@tommyfred6180
@tommyfred6180 3 жыл бұрын
its the same in nursing mate. the one doing the work gets stuffed. the agencies get a tone of money for doing very little and the employer gets to walk away from any responsibility.
@craigprice1567
@craigprice1567 3 жыл бұрын
Well said mate! I am a class one driver with a clean license and 20 years left until I retire.however, I recently gave up driving to work in a factory where I can earn the same money Doing much safer, cleaner Job.I’m glad to hear the industry struggling for drivers it’s their own fault driving down the wages for the past 20 years.
@Yourballix
@Yourballix 2 жыл бұрын
Working in a factory wouldn’t suit majority or truck drivers they’re afraid of some manual work
@stum8374
@stum8374 Жыл бұрын
@@Yourballix no we are not afraid of hard work,just love seeing every part of the uk each wk.
@Yourballix
@Yourballix Жыл бұрын
@@stum8374 sitting on your arse 90% of the day turning a wheel 😂😂
@leevlf3253
@leevlf3253 Жыл бұрын
Luke 8 17 gettr
@Gamegodz76
@Gamegodz76 3 жыл бұрын
I’m one of the 70k drivers....and yes I agree, agencies are parasites on every industry not just transport!
@Niall-q4r
@Niall-q4r 2 жыл бұрын
me too 👍
@thecamel7553
@thecamel7553 2 жыл бұрын
Blame the companies who use them not the agencies.
@Iced_Diamondz
@Iced_Diamondz 2 жыл бұрын
One good thing about agencies is you can try out the different types of jobs from supermarket to construction to waste removal and decide which one you prefer. But I do detest agencies as they are taking a huge margin from what should rightfully be yours.
@Gamegodz76
@Gamegodz76 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecamel7553 I blame them both!
@teddyteddy3456
@teddyteddy3456 2 жыл бұрын
me too , want to work , don't need to work
@ownyourworld
@ownyourworld 3 жыл бұрын
Wages every where have not gone up for around 20 years yet living costs have sky rocketed
@enochpowellslibrarian5595
@enochpowellslibrarian5595 3 жыл бұрын
Companies are making record profits too .
@ownyourworld
@ownyourworld 3 жыл бұрын
@@enochpowellslibrarian5595 mass strikes
@Sametribeeverytime
@Sametribeeverytime 3 жыл бұрын
@@enochpowellslibrarian5595 A Plandemic where the rich have got a whole lot richer and the poor a whole lot poorer.
@enochpowellslibrarian5595
@enochpowellslibrarian5595 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sametribeeverytime Exactly, look at the virus PPE contracts, there's loads of PPE companies out there but instead of using them , loads of government employees, including MPs, have been getting family members to create a PPE company just so they can award it to them at vastly inflated prices. It's ridiculous. And the people creating the companies are well off anyway so it's just a bonus to them, and the MPs get a nice little kickback. Nice country we live in !
@airwolf5826
@airwolf5826 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's called inflation. And ask yourself who runs all the Central Banks.
@andybarry3435
@andybarry3435 3 жыл бұрын
With you all the way on this, fellow trucker. I once closed up my wagon and drove home to use the toilet after being told I couldn't use office staff toilets and sent to some dirty rat infested hole.
@elieli56
@elieli56 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh....over a fucking toilet usage is swear this micromanagement of every fucking need and want is ridiculous.
@chrishar110
@chrishar110 3 жыл бұрын
One company refused to let me use the toilet, I refused to open the curtains, called transport office to let them know (switched off my phone right after the call) and returned back, total 8 driving hours wasted. I got paid, they didn't get their products and I hope that they both learned their lesson. I never worked for that company and I never went to that warehouse again.
@andybarry3435
@andybarry3435 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrishar110 good on ya. It's gotta be done.
@Lonely_Goat
@Lonely_Goat 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrishar110 i have shit in tesco bags before, had no choice, i have also shit under the truck on the hardshoulder, again no choice
@elvisGT
@elvisGT 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrishar110 Legend !
@matttenniswood3717
@matttenniswood3717 3 жыл бұрын
Fucking HERO, about time someone said it.
@leevlf3253
@leevlf3253 Жыл бұрын
luke 8. 17 GeTTr
@meljen8592
@meljen8592 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see someone that does the job giving us the facts,top man Simon.
@awalker2723
@awalker2723 3 жыл бұрын
They've made driving an impossible job, too many hoops to jump through.
@SB-hr5yr
@SB-hr5yr 3 жыл бұрын
It's a free market. You're free to work for who you like. You could go to college and retrain, start your own business etc etc. Stop F**king Moaining!!
@SB-hr5yr
@SB-hr5yr 3 жыл бұрын
@Jesus Jones who controls you, where you live and who you work for?
@jimtaylor294
@jimtaylor294 3 жыл бұрын
@Jesus Jones Amen. Ignore that other guy; his comments are all bot'esque C & P blarney.
@jackjackson7577
@jackjackson7577 3 жыл бұрын
@@SB-hr5yr True but if they all did that there wouldn't be any drivers and people would starve.
@jackjackson7577
@jackjackson7577 3 жыл бұрын
@@SB-hr5yr D Depends on if you have a family and a motgage.
@liamm9637
@liamm9637 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a new driver I'm 24 years old and I just got myself a job with Booker as class 2 Driver. I had High Hopes for this job as booker is part owned by Tesco and the wage was attractive. On my first day the red flags appeared immediately lazy incompetent management with bad attitudes Unrealistic Targets and Expectations on the run i was sent on a 317 mile trip delivering overloaded cages and picking up empties which took me 5 hours then 9 hours driving . and to top it all off the government driving regulations and Vosa trying to fine you while doing the job. I have tried 3 jobs and all of them are the same Bad Management, Terrible Conditions, Unpaid Breaks all are the same. Summery Its not worth it.
@bartz4439
@bartz4439 3 жыл бұрын
14h? You're so lucky! Go back to them and suck dry to let them know how grateful you are that masters treats slaves so peacefully and not giving him 15h shift....
@chrishar110
@chrishar110 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem with my company, I made two 9+ driving hours shifts the first days of the week and three 13+ working hours shifts. Then I refused to do any run that could be around or over 10 working hours or 8+ driving hours. I slept in the truck a couple of times, they need the trucks for the day shift so that hurt them much more than me and the problem was over. They learned their lesson. Long runs that may last over 9 driving hours or 13 working hours only double manned. So I get paid to sleep for 4-5 hours and return fresh at home.
@kevinparker461
@kevinparker461 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle was an HGV driver for Booker & to be honest it sounded a bloody nightmare!
@armchairgeneralissimo
@armchairgeneralissimo 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinparker461 I've seen the Booker guys making deliveries and the amount of handball they do is insane, if I wanted to do heavy manual labour like that I'd sooner go work on a construction site and make more money.
@chelsegreen7868
@chelsegreen7868 3 жыл бұрын
What was the monthly wage ?
@nevesdad1969
@nevesdad1969 3 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong. In my opinion agencies are a massive part of the problem.
@TwistedHorizonI20
@TwistedHorizonI20 3 жыл бұрын
Its the only job I know where its almost entirely Agency job advertisements.
@Misskld
@Misskld 3 жыл бұрын
I heavily rely on agency work going permanent again frightens me. But as Simon mentioned if the permanent staff were treated better and had a pay rise we would stay and agencies wouldn't be needed.
@nevesdad1969
@nevesdad1969 3 жыл бұрын
@@Misskld Agencies can serve a purpose in the right circumstances theyve done more harm than good in the long run, Companies are also to blame don't get me wrong. Companies haven't invested enough in training or better facilities and why should they when they can just replace a "gobby" driver with some sucker fresh from the agency who doesn't know any better. The government and insurance companies stuck the oar in with the youngsters because back in the day local lads n lasses used to do Saturday jobs, washing trucks etc, or getting the bug from going with family members, thats all out the window now. I passed in '92 aged 22. Then it was practically impossible get a driving job until 25, so I started at a firm as a forklift driver loading the trailers. I lived and worked internationally 25yrs but its only when I came back I saw how bad it was. The agencies are getting better though as they're being forced to take more responsibility for the drivers but there are still far too many skimming off the top of drivers pay without any respect to the transport industry as a whole. Sorry to go on but I've had a lot of fun and seen more of the world than I dreamed when I was a kid leaving school in the 80s and having seen and experienced the shit that gets piled onto the drivers shoulders winds me right up. None of my not-a-driver mates put up with half the shit drivers deal with.
@sahhull
@sahhull 2 жыл бұрын
Thats not just haulage... Agencies are THE problem for all employment. In an agency. You become throw away labour.
@D992
@D992 2 жыл бұрын
Agencies have and still are the problem in the jobs market.
@Mal_Outdoors
@Mal_Outdoors 2 жыл бұрын
This just came up on my feed in the middle of the fuel panic fiasco! Every word in this blog has come true! Employees can solve this driver shortage easily - pay them a proper wage!
@jam23hq
@jam23hq 2 жыл бұрын
Truth of it is, tanker drivers in the UK are on far ABOVE average on the payscale. Problem is HGV generally are not skilled enough to do the tanker work. There is alot more to it than driving from A to B.
@Force12
@Force12 3 жыл бұрын
Further to my comment below, it seems the vast majority of British business owners are totally ignorant of the fact that their staff is their greatest asset.
@truthseeker3536
@truthseeker3536 3 жыл бұрын
Thats the mindset world wide. Big business owners see their workers as overheads rather than vital assets.
@PRESUMINGED35
@PRESUMINGED35 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Agree, I have done many different jobs over the past 20 years and sad to say its all the same where ever you go. The only way to stop it is a complete national strike where everyone just does not go to work until wages and conditions are improved. its simple really..Most people just want abit of appreciation at the end of a days work for a job well done.. managers cant even be bothered to say thank you. All very sad really
@andrewcooper1301
@andrewcooper1301 3 жыл бұрын
Over 20 years behind the wheel and it took a toll on my body and I was getting sick of 12 hour days and getting up at 4 in the morning. I gave up 7 months ago and I'll never go back to it,
@ibexdnb2879
@ibexdnb2879 3 жыл бұрын
@Mickey Mouse i have heard tipping is the one!
@davidtanslow3584
@davidtanslow3584 3 жыл бұрын
@Mickey Mouse I drove tippers for years, they were the lowest paid drivers, I was on casual, about £15 a day. I think times have moved on for them and it's great to hear that some drivers are doing well.
@andrewking5274
@andrewking5274 3 жыл бұрын
Only 12 hours, got any vacancies 😂😂😂used to doing 15 s
@julianday3879
@julianday3879 3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@patricksmit8746
@patricksmit8746 3 жыл бұрын
Im a driver from the Netherlands, its the same problem over here. Really early mornings and long days. 12 to 15 hours is the standard. Nobody cares and the drivers who drive now are of low quality. You will see a lot of mental illnes under the drivers. They need to be protected!
@cuddlemuffinqueeflover56
@cuddlemuffinqueeflover56 3 жыл бұрын
I work in a motorway services forecourt and I talk to drivers all the time and they say the exact same thing: if they increased the wages and treated drivers with the respect they deserve, the job would be great. You're also spot on about transport managers. Before my current job, I worked security at a warehouse at Heathrow. 9 times out of 10 the drivers would get their schedule from the transport office then come to ME to rearrange it so their schedules would run more smoothly. I kid you not. Keep up the good work! 😉
@johnwallace7841
@johnwallace7841 2 жыл бұрын
Today I was told off by a idiot in a air con, office for using my air con whilst stationary in my truck, Last week my sat nav melted on to my windscreen. Nothing changes Never will. Tomorrow I’m quitting this industry for ever.
@mrpaul224firenza
@mrpaul224firenza 3 жыл бұрын
I've held a class 1 for 20 years, however, I hope I never have to drive a truck again.
@JohnSmith-31
@JohnSmith-31 3 жыл бұрын
I retired a couple of years ago & would not recommend truck driving to anyone.
@paulseeley4387
@paulseeley4387 3 жыл бұрын
It really depends on who you work for and your own situation personally I wouldn't do tramping my job is OK I have 4 out of 5 days good but the whole industry is pretty fuck up. Needs a massive rethink
@NextSound170
@NextSound170 3 жыл бұрын
Same said about the buses, the job is what you make it
@deccanqueen2036
@deccanqueen2036 3 жыл бұрын
But we need truck drivers or how else do we get our food on the table! Sure employment conditions and wages must change.
@JohnSmith-31
@JohnSmith-31 3 жыл бұрын
@@deccanqueen2036 Then don't treat drivers like shit.
@charlieb6001
@charlieb6001 2 жыл бұрын
How refreshing to see a well presented video; articulate, engaging and informative without being up himself or using foul language.
@tonyowen8349
@tonyowen8349 2 жыл бұрын
I’m one of the 70,000 and I’m going to stay with the 70,000! Good work Simon 👌
@Ficus_blue
@Ficus_blue 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you to you and all the other fab truckers. You kept us going through all this covid bollocks! I won't clap the NHS but I'll bloody well clap you guys and gals!
@andrewking5274
@andrewking5274 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@BusbyTreeSurgery
@BusbyTreeSurgery 3 жыл бұрын
well said i have thanked my shop workers a few times over this last year and a bit plenty people have kept us going while we can see vids of empty wards and ghost town hospitals
@cdz12v
@cdz12v 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an nhs worker on 10 quid an hour .thanks for cheering me up don't know why I bother turning up any more
@BusbyTreeSurgery
@BusbyTreeSurgery 3 жыл бұрын
@@cdz12v if i worked for nhs i would have left after this last year it is a disgrace being part of the con
@elvisGT
@elvisGT 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate !
@bpercival2413
@bpercival2413 3 жыл бұрын
Drivers are THE most 'essential' workers. Nothing gets done without them.
@sexkev1001
@sexkev1001 3 жыл бұрын
I've been saying for years that transport is THE most powerful industry in history. The only thing preventing us from getting a fair crack of the whip is ourselves! If a general strike were called for truck drivers, the country would be on it's knees within 12-24 hours. When you have certain companies that will do the job at a loss, naming no names, just to prevent another company getting that contract, and it's drivers happily swan around thinking they are the bees knees then it is no wonder we get shafted.......because we won't stand together and demand our rights.
@1eddwood
@1eddwood 3 жыл бұрын
Well said
@eyesodd
@eyesodd 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly it's the way of the world, pointless unneeded jobs/workers get paid well, all the actually essential workers are undervalued and underpayed.
@charlescrawford6627
@charlescrawford6627 3 жыл бұрын
Just ask coal miners
@welshdai4094
@welshdai4094 3 жыл бұрын
We can't strike teachers are to busy doing that no time for us
@szh.1
@szh.1 2 жыл бұрын
100% right company’s spending millions to look good in the public eye but treating the bread and butter workers like something on they shoes.
@liamsezzipea3349
@liamsezzipea3349 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on mate I was driving for just over 3 years and at first it was great, being out on your own no hassle from management but that didn't last after a while planning was piss poor by the transport manager, loading issues and the amount of hours I put in and got a decent wage but they treated me like shit, haven't gone back to driving its too much stress and I don't think I ever will.
@dandlion1958
@dandlion1958 3 жыл бұрын
As a HGV driver you are spot on mate, the agency's are criminal.
@stevepiggott6806
@stevepiggott6806 3 жыл бұрын
Business shows a smiley face to its clients and customers, but at the core they are filth.
@mickharrison9004
@mickharrison9004 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely rite.
@plottwist1733
@plottwist1733 3 жыл бұрын
What makes it worse is that most people are aware of this, but they carry on buying from despicable multinational corporations like Amazon because it's the most convenient option.
@tomato6460
@tomato6460 3 жыл бұрын
I work as a consultant in the transport industry and it’s honestly disgusting. I have seen incompetent top level management fail badly and still give themselves huge payouts while treating their drivers like trash and paying them less than it’s possible to survive on.
@mickharrison9004
@mickharrison9004 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomato6460 it's sadly the way of world now, when only money matters and people don't most are just slaves to the system.
@chrisharris8727
@chrisharris8727 2 жыл бұрын
Well said 😀👍🏻 I’ve was a HGV driver for 25 years and packed it all in about 2 years ago. I absolutely agree it’s basically money, terms and conditions and the hours that killed what was a perfectly good job a few years ago. I now have nothing to do with transport and can quite honestly say I don’t miss it at all. Perhaps if they did get rid of the CPC and paid more money I might consider working part time a few days a week for a bit of pocket money
@KernowHill
@KernowHill 3 жыл бұрын
When I started driving HGV's back in the 90's, we where treated with respect and regarded as professional drivers by other road users and customers. When the HGV got renamed to L+E or what ever it is called now (Not Interested) Our Heavy goods licence was also down graded from a professional licence to what felt like a 3rd class driver on our roads. The other problem I experienced over the 20 years of tramping up and down the Country. There was more and more car drivers that didn't know how to drive on the Motorways and when they caused an accident it seemed the nearest truck driver was at fault.
@lesglover7016
@lesglover7016 3 жыл бұрын
Im like every other HGV 1 driver, after 17 years im looking to get out, I spent years tramping (shitting in bags in a layby, pissing against the truck ) the general public do not know what we go through, cars jumping in your braking space, cutting you up, getting angry because your in the second lane over taking a Tesco lorry, the jobs a joke, I loved it at first but now I hate every day of it. All for £11 hr here in Newport Gwent. Stay safe happy Trucking guys and Girls.
@davidlamont5793
@davidlamont5793 3 жыл бұрын
U didnt mention getting sucked off in the dogging layby on the a449 jobs still got its perks
@colinlakin
@colinlakin 3 жыл бұрын
Unions were fucked by Maggie maybe time to bring them back
@Ironman_2177
@Ironman_2177 3 жыл бұрын
100% Right keep preaching 👏
@Hedge-Hog
@Hedge-Hog 3 жыл бұрын
I was getting £11 per hour 30 years ago for driving.
@0utcastAussie
@0utcastAussie 3 жыл бұрын
@@colinlakin It wasn't actually Maggie. It was Heseltine stabbing her in the back and constantly trying to trip her up. The Twats still doing it re: Brexit ! Oh, And the Unions were no friend to me !
@venomtailOG
@venomtailOG 3 жыл бұрын
Drivers are now responsible for too many liabilities compared to what they're being paid
@georgeton4991
@georgeton4991 2 жыл бұрын
Yep its LAUGHABLE!
@MadMiff
@MadMiff 2 жыл бұрын
I agree wages are not high enough but other factors have also made the job less desireable. Speed limiters, they have been around for years and not likey to go away but they are set differently from truck to truck and firm to firm, drivers have no control and they take away the responsibility of the driver to drive at a safe speed. They can't overtake a slightly slower truck in a timely manor to avoid holding other traffic up so they are forced to reduce speed to match the slower truck. They then get bored as they have a reduced view of the road ahead, get more fatigued and sleepy and becomes more of a risk of having a crash. The answer is to ensure all trucks from all firms are set to the same max speed of 60 Mph but have a kickdown option which can only be used a limited number of times a day so that a slower heaver truck can be overtaken quicker. The number of kickdowns left can be displayed so the driver knows whether the overtake is worth it. The difference to alertness levels when driving a limited truck to one where the driver controls the speed is incredible. There is still the road speed limit for the vehicle which dicourages speeding but having the ability to overtake makes the roads safer. Failure to do so results in drivers deciding to drive slower than the what the limiter is set to in order to avoid catching up with other trucks that have their lmiter set just slighty lower. Tacho Infringments is another reason, we are humans working in an analogue and variable world being measured by digital systems that don't take into account the fact that a layby may be full up so you can't stop till you find one with a space or an idiot pulled out in front of you and then stopped to turn right delaying you before you reach a stop point. In real life there are so many factors that can make the difference between stopping before you go past your hours or not but as far as the computers are concerned you will get infringements for going just a minute over your time. This could be driving time, working time or daily spreadover time. These get added up over time and are used as reasons to dismiss drivers, so this results in drivers stopping well before they need to in order to comply but are then losing overall spreadover time which office staff don't understand. The answer is to have a buffer zone of no more than 10 minutes which doesn't need explaining provided there isn't a consistant pattern to it's use over a week at a time. Also there needs to be more understanding that because drivers need to stop they should be allowed to do so in more places that are perfectly safe but are prevented from doing so because a selfish councilor decided a lorry parked on an industrial estate or an empty entry slip road hard shoulder for up to an hour doesn't look good. Working Time Directive is another one, we already had tachos but then they added another reason to delay us even further, trying to comply with one rule is bad enough in the real world but trying to comply with both while the office idiots are asking why you are stopping for another break is just pushing stress levels through the roof. Again the answer is to have a buffer zone of no more than 10 minutes which doesn't need explaining provided there isn't a consistant pattern to it's use over the course a week at a time. Drivers don't want to go over their hours but if they can't find a place to stop they have to keep going until they can but they shouldn't be stressed for doing so by being issued with infringments even if it was only for a minute. Drivers are being forced to break the law by putting tachos on break when in fact they are unloading so that for the computer it looks like they don't need a break but in fact they probablly really do need one which makes them more unsafe on the road. We are being forced between a rock and a hard place or a fine if we go over and firms know this and use it as a reason to keep wages low because the drivers are under so much threat of losing their job by accumulating too many infringements.
@jonnyRyan88
@jonnyRyan88 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to get my licence and do this job , glad I watched this video opened my eyes
@jfreeman5819
@jfreeman5819 3 жыл бұрын
CPC is a cash cow pure and simple. When i started on HGVs the hourly rate was £5 above minimum wage, when i walked away in 2019 it was just over £1 above yet they want you to be a model professional for basically minimum wage.
@EricH_1983
@EricH_1983 3 жыл бұрын
I wont try until CPC is gone..
@tauri7273
@tauri7273 3 жыл бұрын
@d3adsoulja now is the time to give it a go. Wages are going up quite quickly. But I will be honest, you gotta find the right company. Some will piss you around and expect the earth from you, others will respect you and work with you. It just depends. I enjoy driving, but I'm not keen on the company I work for ATM, so I am looking elsewhere.
@choppapop2027
@choppapop2027 3 жыл бұрын
@d3adsoulja yeah it is bad not worth it putting life at risk every day for an extra couple of quid used to be really good not any more been getting worse and worse as years go on.this was my dream job passed all my tests did one year of it 60 HR weeks compared to my previous job 35 hrs and in heinsight money looks good but it's not it's because the amount of hours u do. In the end went back to my other job now at least get to see my house and no when I'm home. Lorry driver there's no life balance.
@stevehancock1698
@stevehancock1698 3 жыл бұрын
wow talk about getting hosed in edmonton Alberta Canada a city bus driver got over 30 an hour back 15 16 years ago plus benefits n class 1 drivers most got percentage of truck gross 25 percent truck makes 2000 a day you get 500 mostly gravel haulers tho if you work the oil field considerably more i have 2 to 3 million miles on me driving truck i wouldnt get out of bed for what you get paid here criminal really
@lynetteallpress8079
@lynetteallpress8079 3 жыл бұрын
I am married to a truck driver, the working conditions are atrocious, drivers are treated like shit by not only the companies they work for and the companies they deliver to. My husband works away all week and I see him at weekends. They are pushed to the limit in hours and also get treated like dirt by the general public. And people wonder why there's a driver shortage, would they do it?
@BibtheBoulder
@BibtheBoulder 3 жыл бұрын
...and then, when you're never at home you find your wife has been shagging someone else......
@lynetteallpress8079
@lynetteallpress8079 3 жыл бұрын
@@BibtheBoulder not every wifey does that hun.🙄
@MajorTom6
@MajorTom6 3 жыл бұрын
@@BibtheBoulder Not all of them.........only about 60% ;-)
@C.Steamer
@C.Steamer 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@danvoica8089
@danvoica8089 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate. I am in the industry for 7 years and everything is exactly how you put it. Hopefully, things will get better.
@M374EVL
@M374EVL 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a HGV driver of 25 years and I’m earning now what I was was basically earning 15 years ago
@jeremypowell7609
@jeremypowell7609 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly it’s same in many professions...profit before people .
@charlieb6001
@charlieb6001 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremypowell7609 EU to blame for that - eastern Europeans working cheap and depressing wages. Hopefully it will gradually change.
@PATRYK-R1
@PATRYK-R1 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlieb6001 you're wrong. they get what everybody get. agencies or companies are not paying less because you're east Europe driver... if all east Europe drivers like Polish will leave HGV will be even worse. it's all about agencies and companies rates... spoke to so many English guys and almost none of them is willing to do this job because of money and because of lots of hours.... to be honest usually half of your life behind the wheel....
@PATRYK-R1
@PATRYK-R1 2 жыл бұрын
@Chris Lowndes i agree. even a friend of mine got forklift license, he's getting 12.25 per hour. The company in my city (Leicester) Samworth Brothers is paying for class1 11.80 !!! ridiculous money huge responsibility 😒
@thisisntthewholesomefuture649
@thisisntthewholesomefuture649 2 жыл бұрын
And the cost of living today is far more costly.. I bet you also pay more now in taxes as well. Working class people across the west get unfairly shafted.. Especially given what's possible. It really upsets me that our own people will be undermined by a foreigner who's willing to take a pay cut. The cost of living in many other countries is far less. They slum it out for half a year and return home.. They'll be probably better off. -- So much our stable employment was sent over to China. That hurt working class people all across North America. Because of these weasels.. Bill Clinton of the US, Elliott Trudeau of Canada.. Today we're very much at the mercy of China. China manufactures almost all of our much needed goods. All things in the medical industry. I'd say pretty much everything but meat and dairy products. -- Leave it to a socialist stooge to sell us out... Now we have a communist regime looking to be the next global super power. Where human rights aren't a thing and the organ harvesting of the regimes outspoken critics are abundant. Smh..
@101ckes
@101ckes 3 жыл бұрын
Both myself and my mate have HGV class 1 licences. We got so pissed off with the job and the way we were treated we both threw in the towel and we now both work for a water company driving around a small van from 8am to 4pm for more money than we used to get behind the wheel of a HGV. And we sleep in our own beds at night. Even if they doubled the HGV wages, we would never go back.
@Titsabroad
@Titsabroad 3 жыл бұрын
Any vacancies going at your place? 😀
@101ckes
@101ckes 3 жыл бұрын
@@Titsabroad Yes, there are nearly always jobs going within the water industry. Who ever is your water provider, just go to their website and check out the vacancies. You can set up notifications, so that any future jobs advertised, you will be notified. I wish I had gone into the water industry when I left school rather than pursue a HGV job. Looking back at it, I must have been mad!! When my mate and I were HGV drivers it was long hours etc and everyone wants you there 5 minutes ago. Now we work 8am till 4pm (3.30PM on a Friday) and we get a van to get to and from home in. We joke that the working hours are like being back at school again!!!!
@fremenondesand3896
@fremenondesand3896 2 жыл бұрын
@@Titsabroad I'm with you. Drove a van for a large builders merchant and that was the best job i've done so far. Decent pay, really good staff and it was an easy job. Still a lot of handballing cement and timber but I loved it.
@Mr_Muttley
@Mr_Muttley 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant and 100000% correct mate. This needs televising on mainstream media. Im also class 1 driver 6 years in
@driftergtj2106
@driftergtj2106 3 жыл бұрын
I stuck with a company for 17yrs class 2 adr, treated like crap pay was crap, stuck cos I have a family and mortgage, then couldn’t handle it anymore and had to walk away cos of stress, best thing I ever did, leave.
@mre8046
@mre8046 3 жыл бұрын
Simon, there's another point to this where the government snuck in IR35 through the back door. If you work anywhere and everywhere, you ARE technically SELF EMPLOYED, you have to find your own way to different work locations at YOUR expense, you also have to agree to go there hence you ARE your own boss! but the Government got this mixed up with office workers calling them "self employed". Agencies since April this year have all ganged up on HGV Self Employed workers and turned everything into PAYE, work for them, but they are agencies, like go compare & compare the pest control.com they should NOT be your employer. You are your OWN BOSS if you have the brain to pick and choose your destiny. I am amazed no Freelance HGV driver has stepped up to shout about this, company boys need not apply.
@janettemccubbin9009
@janettemccubbin9009 3 жыл бұрын
Always fancied being a lorry driver but now I'm too old and a nut expensive to do the HGV test. Big respect for lorry drivers.
@rattusnorvegicus4380
@rattusnorvegicus4380 3 жыл бұрын
"Janette McCubbin 3 days ago Always fancied being a lorry driver but now I'm too old and a nut expensive to do the HGV test. Big respect for lorry drivers." Sorry to hear you`re a nut ;)
@jagjay8033
@jagjay8033 3 жыл бұрын
im 51 and passed last year we needed bigger trucks for delivery's rather than 3, 7.5 toners
@TheGeoffpike
@TheGeoffpike 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 60, just passed mine, loving it
@tinaforbes1059
@tinaforbes1059 3 жыл бұрын
Well done to you all truckers. I'll clap for you all any day.
@pointblankracer6274
@pointblankracer6274 3 жыл бұрын
In Britain it's a race to the bottom.
@tasha0144
@tasha0144 3 жыл бұрын
Same overhere in Ireland, we are treated like shite.
@khankrum1
@khankrum1 3 жыл бұрын
Remoaner prock! Stop wasting your drivel!
@killerdoxen
@killerdoxen 3 жыл бұрын
@@tasha0144 Same here in Canada. And companies flooding the industry with substandard drivers doesn't help. Glad I gave it up.
@STScott-qo4pw
@STScott-qo4pw 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to America...
@arokh72
@arokh72 3 жыл бұрын
@@killerdoxen sadly the same here in Australia too. Pre Covid, plenty of freight companies were happy to provide sponsored employment visas to, mainly, Indians, then bring them here and pay them squat. Many of them are quite dangerous on the road too as they receive no training for driving heavy vehicles, well really any driving in Australia in general. Add paying by the load, instead of a decent wage, and you get a dangerous situation. It's quite sad that this is worldwide issue, but then again it's essentially the same few companies (and their subsidiaries) worldwide driving this problem.
@patvmru
@patvmru 3 жыл бұрын
As a previous driver thanks for saying exactly what we all have felt for so long hit the nail on the head
@markberry3494
@markberry3494 2 жыл бұрын
I'm one of those Hgv drivers sitting at home ! Almost 30 yrs behind the wheel never had a job that treated you with respect.Glad to hear it's all bad out there,companies deserve it.
@annem9195
@annem9195 3 жыл бұрын
“The stork brings babies, everything else comes by truck.” Wise words I heard many years ago, & they’re still true today.
@jimtaylor294
@jimtaylor294 3 жыл бұрын
Once that'd have said "by train" or "by horse" ;-) .
@truckinghell1655
@truckinghell1655 3 жыл бұрын
But who delivers the goods for the stalk to be able stop the baby off somewhere
@ElvisPresley68
@ElvisPresley68 3 жыл бұрын
You Got it a Truck brought it !
@dread4836
@dread4836 3 жыл бұрын
Poles, Bulgarians and Romanians doing most of the Building work, but they are starting to drift back home
@realtruths2291
@realtruths2291 3 жыл бұрын
I worked as a telehandler on a building site and believe me those foreigners absolutely smash the work out you nearly need 1 forklift drivers just for them, they put the english workers to shame
@thertis580
@thertis580 3 жыл бұрын
@@realtruths2291 perhaps the "telehandlers" should get into brickwork /plastering etc and show their fellow Brit's how it's really done. Then we wouldn't need others. But remember when men have to go abroad to work-and Brit's did (Al Vedersayn Pet Etc) they work all the hours and hard, to then go home to their families now and again. Don't imagine they work like that at home.
@realtruths2291
@realtruths2291 3 жыл бұрын
@@thertis580 I wouldn't worry, we will all be out of a job when the ai Robots take over. they are building 3d printed houses now they work 24/7 and have zero breaks. Nobody's keeping up with that
@EDD-xr4ub
@EDD-xr4ub 3 жыл бұрын
DREAD..You shouldn.t be happy for that.Finnaly i got the reason why my last house is of better quality and build to standards i.ve seen in the eastern europe.The quality of the houses in the Uk is atrocious most of them looking after 6 years like a house in Romania or Poland would look after 40 with endless electrical and heating related problems. You.ll have plenty of english workers once the foreigners make you the pleasure of leaving.Will probably go back to the same shi...y standards.The problem what you.pl do when all eastern europeean medical staff leave since english are so reluctant to study and work in this area .Don.t worry solution is more foreigners,this time from Asia or Africa.Either way,is racists brexiteers that still will loose :)))but hey..they could do those jobs if they.d not be making holes in their couch and cry about foreigners stealing their jobs.
@studas2011
@studas2011 3 жыл бұрын
@@EDD-xr4ub Would you like your own country to be as 'multi-cultural' as England is?
@dorinmatei9866
@dorinmatei9866 3 жыл бұрын
I am lorry driver and I quit 2 years ago. I worked in London for a company and an agency too. (All big stores)To hard work for £12 gross. I will go back only for £25 per hour probably.
@alanwilliams3793
@alanwilliams3793 2 жыл бұрын
I've re-applied for my LGV/PCV license and the DVLA have had it for nine weeks!
@minatormyth
@minatormyth 3 жыл бұрын
You have this spot on. After a 28 career in the close protection industry I retired from it at 51. Payed thousands to take my class 1&2 HGV and CPC. Driving was a real eye opener. I drove class 1 for a few months and was surprised how shit I was treated by both agencies and customers. Didn't drive class 1 again and started to drive class 2 , treated even worse especially by customers who I was delivering to. The difference between driving a class 1 & 2 is about 50p an hour. So why bother driving class 1. I can honestly say that at 56 I absolutely fucking hate the life of a truck driver, especially for sodding peanuts. On top of that everything...everything is the fault of the driver. As well as being the most regulated industry in the UK. I want out of it , i hate it. I would never recommend it to any youngsters.
@waynus2021
@waynus2021 3 жыл бұрын
agree on everything being the fault of the driver , even a fucking puncture!! lol
@mcharrisment4765
@mcharrisment4765 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@hillyhowely222
@hillyhowely222 3 жыл бұрын
I share the same story as you mate I got out of it years ago then spent about 10 year driving coaches what is even worse wages but was a better job with all the free kick backs like free meals and gifts etc but even that job is fooked now because of covid 😠
@gladiammgtow4092
@gladiammgtow4092 3 жыл бұрын
Same here in Australia.
@jmills1549
@jmills1549 3 жыл бұрын
Feeling the pain mate, same here, why i quit.. Factory job, more money no hassles... And i get to keep a clean driving record, class 2, pcv 1
@Sametribeeverytime
@Sametribeeverytime 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone wants their goods fast and cheaply, but sod the driver being able to actually park without being fined for a tacho break/use the toilet. Lets charge them to use expensive overnight parking away from all those people that got their goods happily and cheaply, can't be mixing with them now can we?. Can you see the irony?. The councils are to blame.
@fatbloke2285
@fatbloke2285 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually illegal now to park your lorry overnight in lay-by's in Kent. They want their good's from around the country and the Continent but the lorry driver's can go to hell. You would think it would be illegal for the Kent council to do that!
@michaellamont2605
@michaellamont2605 3 жыл бұрын
We're All getting shafted
@VincentRE79
@VincentRE79 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatbloke2285 The only way things will change is if lots of people start leaving the industry.
@fatbloke2285
@fatbloke2285 3 жыл бұрын
@@VincentRE79 or refuse to deliver to Kent.
@VincentRE79
@VincentRE79 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatbloke2285 Yes that would make them stop and think. I work with the hospitality industry and people have put up with low wages for years, this all has to change.
@Ukvideoclips
@Ukvideoclips 2 жыл бұрын
The shifts are shit and are getting worse, I’m 22 years in now and I laughed out loudly when I see the company directors on tv moaning. I am now doing the unofficial no overtime rule.
@molliereed1420
@molliereed1420 2 жыл бұрын
Has everyone forgotten who got the food to our stores and made sure we did not go without during the Covid lockdowns etc. These people are the best, I did not clap for the NHS but I really felt that the drivers, the store staff etc etc should have received more gratitude because without them, we would have gone without many essentials. Well done Simon keep on doing what you are doing and thank you and all the drivers who did not let anyone down during the last 18 months.
@coletteclarke2905
@coletteclarke2905 3 жыл бұрын
My son is a truck driver and having the same crap
@jojofreeman4810
@jojofreeman4810 3 жыл бұрын
I went to an agency once not for driving (the building game) she phoned the employer in front of me after asking me my hourly rate. It was £10 an hour at the time she asked the company for £20 so they wanted the same pay as me for a phone call Agencies are a scam
@adamprice9214
@adamprice9214 3 жыл бұрын
Jojo Freeman I'm a carpenter/builder, I used to work for a firm who hired agency workers, soon as I found out they were on more I went and worked for the agency... agency at the time were paying £130 a day and I found out we were subbed to the company for £290 a day.. anyway really peed me off so i had a bash on my own only its not as easy as it seems.. I couldn't realistically price jobs to warrant nearly £300 a day (not small ones to start out anyway) so I was no better of and putting in ridiculous hours doing paperwork pricing jobs and made myself ill with worry.. I'm now back working for someone for shitty money again.. wind's me up nearly every day that I'm lining others pockets more than I am mine especially in a world where a solicitor will charge over a hundred quid for a phone call or several hundred at least to represent you in court. A footballer gets millions for playing his hobby, a vet won't think twice to hit you with a bill of 1k for an hours work, same situationwith a dentist.... and I ask myself time and again.. who is at the top of this chain? Who are the key players being butt whipped 🤔 we the trades people. I mean who could do there job or live sufficiently if it wasn't for us 🤷‍♂️ nobody!!! Now every trade could argue this point to a degree and then you see the chart of wealth 👀.. The top 3% of the population have 97% of the wealth and the biggest commodity is DATA.. our DATA!!! we live in a messed up world and it's time the creases were ironed!!! 🤬🙈😆
@dhillon621
@dhillon621 2 жыл бұрын
I was working for FedEx for about 2 months as a new driver. Then one day I just quit. Just like that I never turned up for work. My phone had 34 missed calls on the morning. I did call back later in the afternoon. They offered a higher hourly rate. But I still declined. Now working as a postman. Love it.
@alphazx9re1mint85
@alphazx9re1mint85 3 жыл бұрын
I'm only new to truck driving and binned it after 3 months because of the awful wages and the way we are treated for such a dangerous job is just not worth it agencies need to go I was driving a council ridged truck 26 ton 38 foot long with less than a inch at either side for in tiny streets for 10.41 an hour and was classed as a foreman over the 4 man crew who earned £11 a week less
@stevecunningham6537
@stevecunningham6537 2 жыл бұрын
Re think my hourly rate has went up £5 in under 3 months. Even got offered £28.50 to do a rigid shift today, but couldn't i was still out. Tramper
@The-Clockwork-Eye
@The-Clockwork-Eye 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the bins...and those loaders were working much harder than you kid, we deserve more too. Did all the backing up get too much for ya? 👊
@stevecunningham6537
@stevecunningham6537 2 жыл бұрын
@@The-Clockwork-Eye you know it's horses for courses, just cause a person off whatever sexual persuasion or gender, male female animal mineral or wtf are you supposed to be??? Doesn't mean they can hack the job. Still be a driver shortage when I retire 11 years if I make it?
@SaRa-go6iu
@SaRa-go6iu 2 жыл бұрын
Frank Pendlebury lol
@SaRa-go6iu
@SaRa-go6iu 2 жыл бұрын
Where in the uk is that???? In London even loaders get paid ,Lee than 10.41😳😳
@paulcarrick1871
@paulcarrick1871 3 жыл бұрын
The CPC is a load of bollocks, A waste of everyone’s time.
@leonblittle226
@leonblittle226 3 жыл бұрын
Wait are you saying I spent 25mins explaining the 90 places I need to search a panel van for drugs and illegal migrants was a waste of test time........
@paulcarrick1871
@paulcarrick1871 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because that’s worth 7 hours a year isn’t it?😴💤
@armchairgeneralissimo
@armchairgeneralissimo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to the CPC course I now know if I scoff down junk food and sit in the cab all day with no exercise I'll become fat!
@paulcarrick1871
@paulcarrick1871 3 жыл бұрын
35 hours right there!! Damn, I apologise, I was wrong. I think we need 7 hours on teaching us which side the steering wheel is on!! Let’s make it 42 hours long for our Qualification.
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonblittle226 How to get in/out the cab safely....if i can get the door open while holding my lunch,drinks,a newspaper and a scolding hot coffee,i'm in!
@seamusmolloy
@seamusmolloy 3 жыл бұрын
I have a class 2 licence and went to apply for a job recently. The firm offered me £9.80 an hour to begin with. I terminated the interview and on my way out I said "There's a reason you have 6 wagons parked up" and went back to driving a double decker school bus
@BaldFoodieGuy
@BaldFoodieGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Wise words Simon and to the point. I'm one of them 70k who done my hgv test in the forces in 2003. I need to do my cpc again but the money is like you say not good and with long hours and 2 little kids now it's tuff. I wish you all the luck in the future pal 👍
@paulyyy09
@paulyyy09 2 жыл бұрын
I done cpc before I left the army in 2019 as a backup if my chosen job fell through, had to do it for a bit once the job never worked out. Done it for about a week then sacked it off as the man says (the money is terrible) they need to pay drivers better or they'll be going out of business 😂
@BaldFoodieGuy
@BaldFoodieGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulyyy09 yes it's shite mate isn't it. 👍
@shaunmorris2917
@shaunmorris2917 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on mate! Horrible industry!
@spitfire9880
@spitfire9880 3 жыл бұрын
Hat's of to your Rev for sticking with it. I'm pleased your saying what it's like for drivers today. It's an eye opener for those that may not have any idea
@neilcook4874
@neilcook4874 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Simon, there's only 1 umm and thats F**k umm. Good on you fella 👏👍
@gregtaylor1659
@gregtaylor1659 3 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% bus & coach industry is very much the same well said 👍
@rosehippyguy3402
@rosehippyguy3402 2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right on about everything so far. I'm impressed. Please don't stop doing what you're doing. Simply put. Keep going brother 👊💪💜
@adamk99
@adamk99 3 жыл бұрын
Not just the money It’s also the long hours inconsistent start and finish times and being expected to sit at a distributon centre for 3 hours to tip 2 pallets.
@Sametribeeverytime
@Sametribeeverytime 3 жыл бұрын
Well said mate I've got class 2, and I'm not driving a truck for my job currently, they need to sort it out. People forget we have to pay for the CPC ourselves, take that out of the hourly rate along with fines. Also try having ADR with VOSA awaiting you at every corner as soon as they see your orange plates ready to pull you in. Kerching!.
@H8me_
@H8me_ 3 жыл бұрын
I was in the exact same predicament and to top it off I'm currently out of work now no luck on the job front as the pay is peanuts it's a disgrace it's about time us truckers were respected! 🤬
@francislea4700
@francislea4700 3 жыл бұрын
Parasite world.
@MarkFromEastleigh
@MarkFromEastleigh 3 жыл бұрын
Not just CPC, but medical, tacho card as well. I don't see how you can do five modules of 'customer care' and get the CPC card at the end of it.
@chrishar110
@chrishar110 3 жыл бұрын
I never got stopped the last 5 years with the orange plate. My company offered all the CPC courses, 3 for ADR and 2 for CPC. For the normal CPC courses they had their driver's trainer approved by VOSA and we had all these courses inside the company free for all the drivers. Even for the agency drivers that were in the company for long time. For ADR courses, they arranged groups of 10 drivers for one week, they paid for them and we could make our ADR courses for free and get paid. One week doing nothing, having a lot of fun, have free coffee and breakfast, return home at 15:00 and get paid. Happy days!!!!
@tomfewins5803
@tomfewins5803 3 жыл бұрын
I got a lot of respect for drivers, when ever you see a lorry (personally I feel like truckers are the safest drivers on the road) should be on £25 pH
@Yourballix
@Yourballix 2 жыл бұрын
£25 an hour after doing a 5 day course 😂😂 what’s the point of doing a 4 year degree or trade 😂😂😂
@Iced_Diamondz
@Iced_Diamondz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yourballix and that's exactly why I'm doing my class 1 😂
@Yourballix
@Yourballix 2 жыл бұрын
@@Iced_Diamondz u obv dont know sarcasm
@MrTaytersDeep
@MrTaytersDeep 2 жыл бұрын
Our driving licence is world wide respected as the hardest! HGV drivers have to do 3 plus 3 theory. Should be 25ph
@Yourballix
@Yourballix 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrTaytersDeep worldwide respected 😂😂 any evidence of this claim
@Edmund-King
@Edmund-King 2 жыл бұрын
I work part-time as an HGV driver, usually two days a week. I have worked the previous two days, this is my first day off. Today, I have stomach cramps, irritable bowl syndrome (I wont go into details on that one) a mild headache as well as slight dizziness. Why is this? Because it is one of the most stressful, emotionally draining and physically demanding jobs you can do. Starting at 06:00 am and finishing your shift at 9:00 pm is the norm and not the exception. You are treated like utter scum under somebody's boot when you turn up at a premises. You are often denied the use of both canteen and restroom facilities. Yes.. that's right! You have been behind the wheel for 4 30 mins and not allowed to even use a toilet! Instead you are expected to wait in your cab until a bay, etc, becomes available, often for hours... If you dare to step outside for exercise you are barked at to remain in your cab for health and safety rules! Exercise is not allowed. Eventually you are allocated a bay, and get tipped. By this time you are getting close to your 15 hour daily limit. Next comes the fight to find a service station that has any HGV overnight parking space left. Most are totally full by early evening during the week. The UK population has increased by 20% since the late 1980's as well as a much higher standard of living - a lot more product is now circulating across UK roads. Yet there has NOT been a corresponding rise in safe, overnight, parking capacity for HGV drivers. Yet even more stress. Few people, unless they a driver themselves, have any idea how hard the job is. The Tories simple solution to the crises is to increase driver hours even further. Eh... I think Mr Johnson that is precisely one of the primary reasons you have this crises in the first place. We need a lot more dedicated overnight HGV parking, with high quality facilities. Also, premises receiving HGV drivers onto site must, by LAW, have a 'duty of welfare' towards HGV drivers. The drivers MUST have use of a canteen and toilets with running hot and cold water to wash their hands (not filthy, stinking port-a-loos). Increasing the drivers hours is simply applying sticking plaster which is slowly killing the patient, it should be really helping to heal.... (p.s. I have pasted this on a few channels just so new entrants know what the job can be like... at least some of the time).
@ZorgR
@ZorgR 3 жыл бұрын
The reason for using agencies is simple - they don't want the obligations that come with having permanent employees. Agency workers can be sacked on the spot or just told not to turn up
@habitandoproperty2166
@habitandoproperty2166 3 жыл бұрын
1 week notice for every year worked, it don't seems a big obligation...
@raypitts4880
@raypitts4880 3 жыл бұрын
some military establisments use the hour rule work that out.
@451greenwood
@451greenwood 3 жыл бұрын
Not so true I work for one of the biggest transport companies in UK , clue there green, they actually have there own agency and guarantee 52weeks work per year and guarantee that if there's no work you still get paid and that guarantee us for 50hrs a week, meanwhile there full time drivers only get 40hrs a week and if there's no work you have to take a holiday,
@jimsmithmtb
@jimsmithmtb 3 жыл бұрын
Agency workers can't be sacked on the spot at all. They have the same rights as any employee
@jimsmithmtb
@jimsmithmtb 3 жыл бұрын
@Minix Tvbox you're wrong.
@davidthomas9190
@davidthomas9190 3 жыл бұрын
I know a guy who works in a Morrisons Daily. He tells me they do not have a lot on the shelves right now.
@ian260672
@ian260672 3 жыл бұрын
I have noticed over the last month or so that my local Tesco has had many empty shelves lately. Been following the channels who talk about this, Ice age farmer etc so knew it was coming.
@DjGlenJon
@DjGlenJon 3 жыл бұрын
@@ian260672 I LOVE HOW.......... LADS ON CHANNELS LIKE THIS ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE ICE AGE FARMER......IVE BEEN SPREADIBNG THAT GUYS WORK FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW.
@rattusnorvegicus4380
@rattusnorvegicus4380 3 жыл бұрын
@@ian260672 Insanesburys don`t have half the real food I used to have delivered. Still plenty of processed shyte though, but that doesn`t keep one healthy.
@ian260672
@ian260672 3 жыл бұрын
@@DjGlenJon I came across his channel a few months ago and have watched a lot of his video's I missed. He does seem to get things right and knows what is going on. Very informative. Good to see West Yorkshire, I'm in Barnsley, South Yorkshire.
@robertg9052
@robertg9052 3 жыл бұрын
@@ian260672 Try Celeste Solum and David Dubyne as well, Ice Age farmer vg as you say.
@cidervillage
@cidervillage 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thank you all you drivers you do a mega job, thanks
@michaelhall9211
@michaelhall9211 2 жыл бұрын
Well done for clarifying. A sensible summary of the real reason for the shortage. Glaringly obvious about how we treat hard working people in this country. When will government's and companies ever learn?
@timcowan5528
@timcowan5528 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not a lorry driver except when I was in the fire brigade many years ago,but I want you to know that I’m 110% behind you.The video you made is brilliant,not political,not racist just the plain truth.Oneof the biggest problems in our country now is that a lot of people just won’t except the truth.I really hope you and most of your fellow drivers get your just rewards and soon.Good luck mate and stay safe👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧
@steve6257
@steve6257 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind remarks from one of the many drivers that have left the industry and you stay safe aswell my friend 👍
@t8yman
@t8yman 3 жыл бұрын
Simon, have you spoken out about the supemarkets rejecting perishable goods because the driver misses the timeslot? Good friend of mine had a container of tomatoes rejected last week because the driver missed the slot by 2 mins. its a scandal, people bang on about food shortages yet the big retailers get away with underhand tactics like that.
@HO-gf9ul
@HO-gf9ul 3 жыл бұрын
Well said 👍👍👍 we all deserve a decent pay rise 👍👍👍
@richardsaunders5354
@richardsaunders5354 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely well said!! The best no nonsense, clear well spoken point of view I have heard in a long while. Repect!!!
@andrewjacobs3219
@andrewjacobs3219 3 жыл бұрын
A truck firm in Nottingham LIED to me when I asked to use their Shower and told me that they did not have one. So being a good clean Artic driver I went to the outside tap by the gate house in my shorts and flip flops and had a good old strip down wash , and with NO shame and very publicly . Numerous times when the transport companies companies made their barely concealed contempt for we the Driving people obvious , they quickly and with zero notice found themselves short one driver.
@armchairgeneralissimo
@armchairgeneralissimo 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant mate!
@calumhunter815
@calumhunter815 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the architecture trade. Over 20yrs ago had a flirtation with agency work. Discovered a lad with more academic letters than I was on less than half my hourly rate. Dan had seen the invoices! He was working for ~£8/hour and his pimp Leeds was getting £5/hour (doing nothing) for each and every hour Dan grafted. Think there were four agency chaps in the office. Do the maths!
@baz5973
@baz5973 3 жыл бұрын
Just retired, 34 years behind the wheel. Everything you say is correct, but don't hold your breath that the so called movers and shakers will listen for one minute. The company I use to work for would bend over backwards to accomodate the agency staff, even to the point of giving them a different job to do because, " I don't like driving in London" I kid you not ! Spot on with the poles et al. Good luck to you all. Agree with Magic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@florentinanitei7306
@florentinanitei7306 3 жыл бұрын
Well done for your words.
@181paul8
@181paul8 3 жыл бұрын
There is no driver shortage. I've had my class 1 since 1989 & chose to retire last year aged 53. However I am still class myself as a driver, a driver that has had enough. The most important shortage is of decent employer's.
@marcindawid8485
@marcindawid8485 3 жыл бұрын
And it will be worst, as big ones are taking more and more smaller haulers under thers wings
@BipolarSteve83
@BipolarSteve83 3 жыл бұрын
@@fluggaenkoecchicebolsen ouch 😣
@daveupton8625
@daveupton8625 3 жыл бұрын
I had a pcv and HGV licence since 1991 enjoyed the Job lots still do funny enough well I did till I got to 45, then would need to go for a medical which is pointless as I'm a contact lens wearer they changed the medical rules saying now I need to read the eyesight chart with my lens in then wait for this take them out why who on earth leaves for work and gets in to work and then thinks bugger forgot to put my lens in? It's as Daft as saying I went to work and forgot to get dressed it's that stupid. I put this medical to people everyone thought I was having a joke with them as one said its just to dumb to be real! And yes my sight with contacts is beyond 20/20 with out not so good but hay there short of drivers as a number of long time well experienced like me can't drive because of this dumb stupid rule which is ridiculous and no never had a lens pop out of my eyes ever while driving so I'm pissed at the fact I can't drive because of this most ridiculous stupid rule I guess it's called moving the goal posts never mind I should accept its OK to discriminate on people who can do the job well but have bad eye sight with out the aid of lens or glasses. Wonder when they will apply this to car drivers as well?
@teamdarkhorse
@teamdarkhorse 3 жыл бұрын
@@fluggaenkoecchicebolsen utter pish matey. i am earning the same as 20 years ago, i think that wpuld make anyone curse, as for the dcpc, just another stealth tax to dig vosas inept arse out of debt, farcical course 7 hours a year or not, made worse by the fact mostcend up giving up their weekend time to do it. sorry matey you are talking without a book. ive been driving 34 years 32 class one and am still under the national average age of 55 so too many oldies is rubbish
@181paul8
@181paul8 3 жыл бұрын
@@fluggaenkoecchicebolsen This one comment has confirmed that I did not make the wrong decision in deciding to retire from the industry. I wish you well in your career. Good luck to you.
@williambosworth4232
@williambosworth4232 3 жыл бұрын
I quit driving HGV wagons, my company wouldn’t pay too put me through CPC, or give me time off too do it, I’m sitting here ,retired, with my HGV licences keeping my wallet warm, watching the driving industry fall apart , best of luck too all those bosses who wudnt pay a decent wage, ha ha ha ha✌️✌️✌️✌️
@howardbrett3514
@howardbrett3514 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, I'm retired of HGV driving. Wasnt too bad when I started. Drove for agencies and as an owner driver. What with tacho restrictions and tight delivery schedules, plus traffic today. Its a dogs life.
@alanhiggins299
@alanhiggins299 3 жыл бұрын
Ditto! Got and paid for my HGV license in 1984, I left the industry in 2009 when asked to take a CPC in my own time and expense. One more year before I am of retirement age, but would never go back to driving HGV's, anyway.
@holycannoli2
@holycannoli2 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from New York, friend! I'm a new commercial truck driver and am finding the same situation here. It's an honorable service to help manufacturers get their products to market and I enjoy it. I wish you and your peers success, patience, safe travels and much luck and prosperity.
@stevehorner8302
@stevehorner8302 2 жыл бұрын
Pisses me off because i read and watch these anti brexit pro EU traitors blaming this on brexit. This guy gives a good account of why it is, what it is, Good on him, we need more people like this to make their point.
@billyboy733
@billyboy733 3 жыл бұрын
Long hours low wages. I was in the haulage game since the seventies until retirement five years ago. Always been low pay always will be. Parking overnight is getting a nightmare with no parking ind estates and forcing you into expensive truck stops that most hauliers won’t pay for. I wished I’d never seen a truck.
@momentumstocks3493
@momentumstocks3493 3 жыл бұрын
I hate driving a car...never mind anything bigger. The roads are ****. People on the roads are ****. Unless I was paid £60,000+ a year I would never consider it
@NiallMS1
@NiallMS1 3 жыл бұрын
@@momentumstocks3493 Not-so-smart motorways are shit too!
@rogerrabbit6522
@rogerrabbit6522 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back on KZbin 👍🏻
@davidthomas9190
@davidthomas9190 3 жыл бұрын
👌
@simonlove9178
@simonlove9178 3 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely spot on 👍
@bumzilla8586
@bumzilla8586 3 жыл бұрын
Not a trucker but interested in what’s going on thanks all you truckies for the hard work
@rjds1800
@rjds1800 3 жыл бұрын
I'd take a driving job as I enjoy being out on the road but I can't even get to do any lessons to book a test for a car at the moment. So instead I'm more likely to get a full motorcycle license and courier before I'm ever likely to get a HGV or anything else. Those in charge want everything but without due costs.
@carlarthur4442
@carlarthur4442 3 жыл бұрын
The trouble is getting Motorcycle licence is as difficult, because depending on your age you have to do a C B T and theory test , the C B T only lasts two years and if it runs out , it's not extended because of covid lockdowns , but even when things are going right you have too get through an off road test then an on road test , one of my sons did the tests then because he was under 24 he was restricted to 47 b h p once he had turned 24 he had to take another set of tests , everything because of covid has been put on hold and you have to wait your turn. , don't know why you couldn't do your bike test with covid restrictions in place no need to close test centres .
@enochpowellslibrarian5595
@enochpowellslibrarian5595 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlarthur4442 All that cbt bullsh*t is thanks to teenagers driving around on hairdryers crashing everywhere with no insurance . You used to be able to drive anything up to to 50cc on a provisional car licence with no lessons , .but that's all gone now thanks to idiot teenagers.
@wobbler6372
@wobbler6372 3 жыл бұрын
Your need a few quid to get a lorry licence these days
@cazrealist1
@cazrealist1 3 жыл бұрын
@@enochpowellslibrarian5595 the cbt has been around for over 3 decades before those turds where causing havoc
@cazrealist1
@cazrealist1 3 жыл бұрын
Do it best thing I ever did getting my full bike licence
@davidcoleman6032
@davidcoleman6032 3 жыл бұрын
I think that alot of people who don't drive for a living don't appreciate the mental strain of driving all day.Multi-drop drivers have even greater stress, time restraints, parking restrictions, congestion etc.All lorry drivers have my total respect and admiration!Also from my experience are far more curtious on the road than most car drivers!👍
@jimwest7107
@jimwest7107 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly tough job. My cousin drives for a scaffolding firm North to South constantly via his Army HGV. Says it's far tougher than anything the military threw at him mentally. Looking to leave driving in the next few months so another one down.
@alanbrett2174
@alanbrett2174 2 жыл бұрын
Simon, you are a national hero for these videos you post, telling it like it is
@Davefender100
@Davefender100 2 жыл бұрын
Gave up driving 10 years ago after 20 years. Couldn’t take the garbage from haulers, minimal time of, no respect for your wellbeing. I once got a debrief from one of these kids telling me I had used far more diesel for the exact same run I done yesterday, and couldn’t quite understand I was at least 10 tons lighter the day before, they were only interested in computer figures. And the last 5 years of my driving the wages never increased. I use to love the job would never go back to it now, never home parking in lay byes no toilet facilities, the constant stress, No thanks I like getting home every night and no stress
@Spireites72
@Spireites72 3 жыл бұрын
It's about time this industry was given a exposay.
@garyhewitt489
@garyhewitt489 3 жыл бұрын
"If you don't take it, I'll find someone who will". Then gets onto agency. "This driver you sent me is a troublemaker, don't send HIM again".
@nomayor1
@nomayor1 3 жыл бұрын
They don't send troublemakers. And they know why they blaim Brexit. They blaim Brexit because they won't have Lithuanian drivers anymore, living like prisoners in the truck for 1300 euros a month. Take a look at this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXishJ6wfb14g7s
@D992
@D992 2 жыл бұрын
So very well said! 👏🏻 Thr very best of luck to you 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@TechnoBite
@TechnoBite 2 жыл бұрын
Well said and very prophetic
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