IS THIS MISOGYNY?! | Dr. Hook | "When You're In Love With A Beautiful Woman" (REACTION)

[@mikematusek4233]

The change came, in my mind, with the birth of MTV. Pre MTV, Ugly people that could sing could make it, After MTV, it was looks.

[@jollyrodgers7272]

MTV had a significant impact on the multimedia renaissance which defined the '80s, which actually started in 1979 (examine the charted hits of '79).

[@lawrenceblack8968]

Christopher Cross sort of comes to mind

[@peterburrell007]

I hate to agree with you but that's probably true. Oh what shallow people we have become.

[@tombaranyai6683]

Definitely! MTV was the game changer. Prior to MTV all that mattered was how talented you were, not how you looked.

[@BigBri550]

Well, I disagree about "Ugly people," but with the advent of MTV, there was a definite shift. I don't know if it actually changed music, but it definitely changed the way music was marketed.

[@bigcountrydoug7023]

The one with the patch is mr Ray Sawyer he died 12-31-2018. RIP sir

[@larrywright3132]

He wore an eyepatch because he lost his right eye in a car wreck

[@debcombs7153]

Sylvia's mother is one my favorites. I love your reactions.

[@jealousjelly1]

Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show was a hoot. So many of their most fun songs were written by the great Shel Silverstein. Next time you're in the mood for a kick, react to Dr. Hook's song "Cover of the Rolling Stone." It'll make you smile. Guaranteed. I think the leap from '70s music to '80s music occurred the moment Kim Carnes sang "Bette Davis Eyes." It was number one on the Billboard Hot 100 for NINE straight weeks and won the 1982 Grammy for song of the year. You can't hear that song without recognizing it as '80s music.

[@jollyrodgers7272]

I also liked her songs CRAZY IN THE NIGHT and DRAW OF THE CARDS.

[@chrisoakley5830]

Dr. Hook was so good, many hits. The 80s had the 70s sound until about 1983, then the 80s sound took over.

[@cwn89015]

New age did start in the 70s, and there are songs like Kiss's Made For Lovin' You sounds 80s, but you're right, it is about '82 into 83.

[@chrisoakley5830]

@@cwn89015 Yes, there were a handful of songs in the late 70s and very early 80s that helped shape the 80s sound, but it was around 83 that the permanent 80s vibe really took hold.

[@CaptLawrenceD]

they were kinda garbage bro compared to what was going on back then to be honest this song was middling at best

[@socalpaul487]

Dr. Hook has a bunch of great songs "Sylvia's Mother". "Baby Makes Her Blue Jeans Talk" "Sharing the Night Together" "Only Sixteen" "Sexy Eyes" "A Little Bit More" "I Don't Want to be Alone Tonight"

[@jamescofer3261]

"I Got Stoned And I Missed It",was left off your list. It is one of my favorites.

[@ripvisitor]

Yep "Sharing the night together " is very ... mmmmmmm oh yes !

[@badplay156]

The reason they did Only Sixteen was because they needed to have a song where Ray Sawyer could discreetly leave the stage and clean out his eye.

[@dtw63]

@@ripvisitor Reminds me of “ Breaking Bad” when Todd had Jesse in the trunk and was singing along to that song.

[@sixpakshaker88]

You left "Freakin' at the Freakers Ball," off your list.

[@keymack2477]

Britt, I love your reaction as always - the other commenters who are making comments that are commenting that your next reaction should be to "Sylvia's Mother" are 100% right!! As always with Dr. Hook look for a live version!! Now go have that talk with your hubby!!

[@quixote6942]

The Songs not about her, it's about the men TRYING to tempt her. And even though you may be 99% sure of what you have, that 1% gets Really Loud sometimes. In my day, it was called the "BBD"... The Bigger, Better Deal... And it goes both ways, because the minute THEY See a "BBD', they're gone as well.

[@walterpanovs]

They were known as Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show when they first hit with "Sylvia's Mother." The name was shortened to just Dr. Hook in 1975. The smooth lead singer was Dennis Locorriere (b. 1949). As for the music switch into the synth-pop '80s, that seemed to start with robotic songs like "Cars" by Gary Numan and "Pop Muzik" by M. Pretty soon everyone, including Bruce Springsteen "Dancing in the Dark," his biggest hit) were using synthesizers and/or drum machines. Michael and Janet Jackson had many hits with that sound (listen to the opening of "Billy Jean," that's the '80s sound).

[@galaxycoder]

The overall sound of music changed in the early 80's when Roland, Moog and Korg Synthesisers became polyphonic, When the Roland Jupiter 8 ( the king of all synths) came out, the 80's sound really took off.

[@jr.resendes7373]

Great question Britt. Easy for me to anewer because I lived though it all. The transition occurred due to the following music influences 1) 60's classic rock and mainstream stereo, 2) 70's psychedelic/hard/synth/progressive rock as musicians had fun with stereo and technology in music, 3) Disco, 4) MTV (1981) made visuals equally important to music which pissed many musicians off, 5) MTV gave birth to 80's pop and punk rock; From there, everything went to shit, songs about the sweetness of love, amazing relationships and being true ended. The music industry shifter to 7) rap/hip hop and artists focused on guns, crime, hoes, gansta life and how bad the world sucks.

[@leepatrick9432]

Punk rock was mid 70s to 1980.MTV didn't give birth to it,it wasn't around until 81

[@jr.resendes7373]

@@leepatrick9432 Great point.

[@Paladin70]

Now that you’ve heard this, you MUST hear it’s opposite, “If You Want To Be Happy For The Rest Of Your Life” by Jimmy Soul where Jimmy tells you to “never make a pretty woman your wife” and advises you instead to “get an *ugly girl* to marry you.” Catchy tune too…..and funny!!!👍🏼😂

[@Wyrmksc]

Theoretically summer of 1982 was the beginning of "new wave" or The Second British invasion when Synth-Pop really took off. If you want an older and complimentary song give "Jimmy Soul - If you want to be happy" a listen.

[@markmartineau1015]

Try Sylvia’s Mother next Loved this one

[@dtw63]

Always makes me cry. Great song.

[@6916dog]

​@dtw63 It's the quaver in his voice when he sings "Please Mrs. Avery". Gets me every time

[@terryaustin5976]

Before 1975 they were Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show from New Jersey Shortened to just Dr. Hook

[@jimmywilmore1881]

Yes

[@nostalgiaprincess]

nope. this is truth

[@mchandaltx]

The Cult of Beauty.

[@annepinkerton6280]

It's Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show! That was the name of their group! Love this old music ... takes me back!

[@chrisholland6052]

Since you liked this one, you should check out J. Geils Band, Centerfold. Also about a beautiful woman.

[@chrisalldis3375]

Hey Britt no such word as misogyny in the 70's

[@VikingJeff]

I think the synthesizer started becoming popular in the early to mid eighties. I agree with the comment about 1983 being the turning point. Just started sounding more mechanical.

[@davidholden4543]

I think the song “Tainted Love” was a pivot point. It always reminded me of a warning for a train coming in at the metro station. 70s sound was a hodgepodge of many different influences and then we got these affordable synthesizers and everything turning into a BART station for the next couple of years.

[@bbqujeh]

It was 1983, rock, funk, and disco bled over and became pop music.. You know he's not lying, when you're in love with a beautiful woman it's very hard.

[@jeffreiland7463]

The transition happened at 11:13pm on January 16th 1980. I looked it up.

[@hockemeyer1]

No one on KZbin has the moxy to react to Jimmy Soul "if You Want To Be Happy"!!!

[@artfisk3]

"sylvia's mother " and "carry me carrie " my two favorites of theirs

[@benflat7691]

A few years before the band's formation, Sawyer lost his right eye in a car accident; Sawyer wore an eyepatch that made him resemble the Peter Pan villain Captain Hook,..Hook & the Medicine Show (shortened to Dr. Hook in 1975)..I sound old....Much Luv from Pcola....Salt Life...😎

[@kylekerwin4993]

Music like this just doesn’t exist anymore. Music is both a paradox and a paradigm shift. Throughout each era and genre across all music styles is the evolution and creation that will never be of what once was. Rather what it will become next. Music has the ability to be infinite in every nature possible. Past is gone but not forgotten and the future remains to be created. All different but all the same. All comes down to one universal word. Music.

[@tnolddawg]

The shift from 70's to the 80's style of pop music came about the same time we stopped calling them discos and went back to calling them clubs

[@dsusan17]

My husband use to sing this to me. Misogyny, NO! It's a great song. I love Dr. Hook. Great reaction!

[@rittherugger160]

Yes, Hook is the eyepatch. Please react to 'baby Makes Them Bluejeans Talk'.

[@darinmetzger9346]

Love 70’s music. 80’s music, half and half…maybe🤷‍♂️🙏

[@conservativecoffee]

I think it happened abruptly 😂😂😂😂 Ps... Britt, I love the lines in your chin when you talk, smile and laugh 😊

[@barrymacaukiner963]

New era started with the 2nd wave of british pop.

[@joepangia4413]

“Sharing the night together”. Has got to be their greatest hit of all!

[@michaelwaller7365]

Ray Sawyer lost his eye in a car crash. The name Dr. Hook is a reference to Ray's eyepatch and Capt. Hook of Peter Pan.

[@GranpaMike]

"When you're in love with a beautiful woman, it gets hard." It certainly does.

[@ruserious9577]

The "defining line" that you mention, I believe was the result of DISCO. When disco became a thing, suddenly everyone tried to get mileage out of it. As if by magic, suddenly it was OK for bands to play stuff we'd never heard from them before...and somehow just be ok with it! Example :Kiss, I Was Made For Lovin You. Queen, Another One Bites The Dust. Stones, Miss You, Pink Floyd, Another Brick in the Wall, Part 2/Run Like Hell For many, these massive departures from the norm were the source of much angst and derision. And they certainly helped usher in a more pop music world. But that's just a few examples, and many folks in music-media have written much about the very question you asked. Best!

[@TheVigilant109]

Dr Hook were wonderful. I suggest you listen to Sylvia's Mother. Regarding the music transition from the 70s to the 80s was just the natural evolution of music

[@JohnSeltzer-l7p]

Guys didn't care about loyalty... My friends would hit on my girlfriends. Young and dumb .. My first experience was at 14 .lol.. Had no clue what I was doing ...😂

[@mustangsallie]

Disco was coming into style but so many rejected disco and stayed with pop. I liked both so Dr Hook was very well liked by me. I worked at Disney and another girl and I went looking around backstage and came face to face with them. We ran cause we weren’t supposed to be there! Dr Hook will always be a fav of mine.

[@barrycollier7451]

Around the year 2000, music went to crap.

[@chrisoakley5830]

@@barrycollier7451 Sure did, along with most everything else.

[@grahamjeffries4566]

Beautiful summers day,bricklayer by trade repairing a chimney stack ,all fine till 11 o’clock when suddenly the pub next door starts playing dr hook the best of .for the next 6 hours

[@luckylady7542]

Your husband better be watching his back, you beautiful lady.😊❤ this guy has one of the best unique voices. I love them.

[@ChristopherNorris_CopyGhosting]

The boundary between the 1970s and the 1980s was punk music. If you want to experience the cutting edge, check out "Anarchy in the UK" by the Sex Pistols, their first single 🎉

[@bessforman1773]

That's the old saying don't marry above yourself you will always be watching them.

[@jayweb51]

After leaving the group, Ray Sawyer toured regularly as Dr Hook; after being licensed to do so by Dennis Locorriere, who owns the Dr Hook trademark.

[@jollyrodgers7272]

They started as Dr. Hook & The Medicine Show, but shortened it to Dr. Hook. Back in the day, every guy would try and snake a beautiful woman right out from under your nose! Shel Silverstein wrote a lot of their early stuff, including a tear-jerker based on a true story called SYLVIA'S MOTHER (1972), their first hit song.

[@GrandmaShirley-op4jm]

Love this. So many great songs from them. Saw them twice at a biker bar. Hubbys favorite band.

[@duncanny5848]

Loved the comment 'That girl was a pick-me girl!!' First thought I heard Pigmy!! I thought, what is she saying? Still love that term though. So good, won't forget that in a hurry! 🤣

[@brenthowell6148]

Check out their songs, She was only Sixteen, Cover of the rolling stone, Spending the night together, Sylvia's Mother. This is just a few of their songs.

[@tumairatu1818]

It's endless time of sounds, still relevant as long as people of that time are still alive....like me😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤much love sis

[@gibbopg]

Here guys were all over the radio in the 70’s. The first I recall was Sylvia’s Mother and the they had a strings of hits with a greatest hits album in the early 80’s. No other band had as much fun on stage! Just like many bands of the time ... things went south between the main singers!

[@flipAnt66]

For me, it was 1980 when an Australian group called "The Monitors" released a song called "Singing in the 80s" that brought with it that signature 80s vibe. I.E.Electronic drum machine, synthesizers, and the MTV style video rather than footage of the band playing on a stage. The song asks how will music transition from the 70s to the 80s. It was considerably prophetic, and it's a great song as well. Take a look, it is so 80s you will see what I mean.

[@bbeighey]

For me the transition was 1980 when the band Devo came out with "Whip it" wearing the weird hats. Lol

[@ronniesmith8941]

I have the 45 with this song on one side and Knowing She's There on the other side

[@sandgrownun66]

The advent of Synth Pop at the end of the 1970's, was the transition point in popular music. The Human League, Tubeway Army, OMD, and Depeche Mode, are just a few examples.

[@mikeconway9849]

Great reaction, Britt! The name of the group was Dr Hook and The Medicine Show. You should watch Sylvia's Mother next. It is great story telling.

[@kevincaulder20]

Ok, Britt. The looks of how people looked were drastically amplified with the birth of MTV, as the previous comments say. It is even a part of the first video to play on the channel by the Buggles and the hit VIDEO KILLED THE RADIO STAR, which was the first clip played. Of course, there were exceptions here and there like Twisted Sister, Culture Club, and a few others, but television is a visual medium. It took the direction of fan magazines and the teen girls to hand select to sell and promote music and looks of those artists. It was harkening back to a time on the 196o's when the Baby Boomers were the audience for the British Invasion. The record companies and television executives all wanted a second bite of the apple. I remember hearing a few songs on the radio that didn't really catch on until the video appeared on MTV. And then the inverse happened. MTV was playing music that found its way onto radio playlists. It was fun, colorful, and addicting. You add the fashion and the hair to mix and you can see the early feminization of men in modern times. For a few hours every you could watch new and established artists roll out the latest video. And the next day talk to your friends about it. The wave continued into the nightclubs as the first big screen televisions would play the video while you either danced or prowled the tables for a hookup. Those were the days, Britt. They really were good. Keep going and enjoy the music.

[@jodigirl6610]

I watch their videos when I'm in a bad mood. I love them! ♡

[@AP-gb3eh]

We had an Embarrassment of Riches when it came to music. There were dozens of genres that were all on the air at the same time. We all had our favorites but so much inter flowing creating new hybrids every day.

[@DjMistoffelees]

There's a period at the end and beginning of every decade where music transitions. It's not a hard stop thing. Disco might have died at the end of 70's but it lingered for a few years into the 80's. Hair bands of the 80's continued into the 90's for some time before loosing out to the grunge movement. Grunge had it's years in the 00's. Every decade has bleed over.

[@AnthonyDavio-yu5ci]

I'm 61. Back then lots of people thought this song sucked. I conquer.

[@sixpakshaker88]

Their version of the Ballad of Lucy Jordan is very good. Sylvia's Mother is their best song.

[@daz_n]

Check out their session on Shel Silverstein's Houseboat... They are all baked off their heads, but they are so good and you'll see Ray with the eyepatch at his absolute (and craziest) best!

[@richardlord8126]

Why this band isn't in the ROCK AND ROLL hall of fame is beyond me

[@renyauger4560]

Interesting trivia, almost every Canadian Gen X’er born in the mid to late 60’s saw Dr. Hook as their first concert. They toured a lot. It’s a great first show!

[@nancy9891]

No misogyny, just feelings of insecurity that a man feels because he knows how men think and it’s completely different than what women think. I love this song and yes Brit, you are a beautiful woman that he values, but recognizes other men want what he has. You may not have any feelings like that but insecurity drives the song.

[@starman2337]

The "lines" seem more defined by the middle of decades: '55 to '65, '65 to '75, 75 to 80...

[@chrisoakley5830]

@@starman2337 I kinda agree, it always takes a few years for the new decade to find its own sound.

[@CaptLawrenceD]

there were no lines; it's arbitrary ...like the generations e.g. baby boomers, gen x, millenials...

[@susanrombak7959]

I love your expressive looks with the comments! 😂 🥰

[@adolfomcasasjr4668]

I was in HS senior. To me the transition happened from disco to new wave was with Gary Neuman's Car new sound

[@Joe-o8f]

Britt I always thought eye patch was Dr. Hook when they came on the scene.! 😂

[@lfelton777]

I'm married to a beautiful woman. I trust her. However, she does tells me about the men hitting on her, even at church. It reminds me of the song by Blake Shelton named, I'm Just A Guy With A Girl.

[@Ron-pe8zt]

This was pure disco.. everybody did crossovers.

[@CaptLawrenceD]

this was not disco it was just a pop song played on am stations for the most part

[@mtngrl5859]

Def a 70's music, it was a more playful time than the 1980;s. In the 80's we were dealing with the Aids epidemic, so it really put a shift in the social scene. Also, we got into a more conservative world with Reaganomics.

[@blippacg]

I'd say the major delineation came with hair bands...men wearing lots of eye liner and other makeup .

[@davidkettell5726]

Your husband better be watching his back because there are close to 500000 guys waiting to push him outof de door ? Everything they did was first class ,beautiful melodies . I HAD TO BUY A 20 YEAR OLD MINIVAN WITH A CASSETTE PLAYER AND A CD SO I COULD LISTEN TO MY FAVORITE SONGS AND dR hOOKS GREATEST HITS ARE IN THE CASSETTE ALL THE TIME.

[@spruce381]

It’s not misogyny, it’s all about insecurity. You said it as I was typing Britt - he’s got no confidence in his ‘friends’ That said the song is a groove ❤️ Punk was the transition in the UK - 1977, we went from flares and long hair to drainpipes, short hair and attitude.

[@larryrucker]

We had a short time after the disco era (an aberration we blame on the Europeans) when we had some really good music. Music changed about early 80s, it was no longer the era of the boomers. We lost our sound/music and the next generation took over (for better or worse, only time will tell). Talent was replaced by showmanship/appearance. Truly great vocalist were few, (but they did exist and still do) but not to the level of the 60s and early 70s. As Bob Dylan said, "The times, they are a changin'".

[@laurilewerenz5270]

oh 80's was the era of power ballads which was eventually perfected by one of my fav dou/bands Roxette.

[@Boa_Omega]

I saw them play at the local club in the early 00's. My Dad enoyed the music.

[@circemuller1933]

This was pure Music for Dancing its my Time

[@Brian_S_1971]

Yes the eye patch is for real - Ray Sawyer lost his right eye in a 1967 automobile accident.

[@JohnnyNash-t4s]

you are a beautiful women so u should understand, everybody wants a beautiful women, but a woman with class like yourself there is no chance to steal u, humongous ups to u and your man :)

[@Dehvonne]

It’s hilarious listening to some of the things young people say about lyrics hahah Ahhhh bless ☺️

[@Crueligan]

"Queen Of The Silver Dollar", "A Couple More Years" and "Sharing The Night Together" are my Hook favourites...

[@jimmyholliman7103]

Sharing the together is one of my favorites

[@laurabrevitz3944]

I think Blondie's Heart of Glass ushered in the 80's, even though it came out I think in 1979. I would have given this song 1977, just by the sound, but.

[@leonardpoindexter5289]

I met my beautiful woman in 79 and married her in 82.

[@BlastfromthePastCentury]

Since you like the topic of this song, please sample Jimmy Soul's "If You Want to be Happy." A very fun song from the first half of the 60s.

[@billfly2186]

I think The Cars were the bridging group from 70s to the 80s sound in pop music.

[@stephenadams2008]

"Sharing The Night Together" and "Sweetest Of All" are more of ballads. They had a lot of great songs.

[@phillipschwoerke8374]

For me, when MTV hit that is when the 80s started! Shout out to galaxycoder who talks about the synthesizers which was a giant part of the 80s music.

[@tracyjohnson8057]

I googled because I actually didn't know if one of them was Dr. Hook. Nope but most people think he is because of the patch and the resemblance to Captain Hook from Peter Pan. It's kind of like Hootie and the Blowfish. Darius Rucker wasn't Hooty (but my brother drunkenly teased him saying he was lol).

[@jimcounter4945]

Carry me carrie performed on a house boat live is fantastic you will love it

[@kevincaulder20]

Britt. Disco and new wave music were the converters that made transition from the hard rock, punk, singer-songwriter, and hippy songs laid the foundation to the 198o's. For further proof, listen to the song SYLVIA'S MOTHER from Dr. Hook and the Medince Show in the early 7o's and compare that to this song and SEXY EYES which was also in this time frame of the late 7o's. And yes Britt. It's true. React to BACK STABBERS by the O'Jays. And if you have friends that kniw you, of course his friends or her friends will have your phone number or Facebook to contact your girl. He's literally explaining the reasons why it's hard to be in love with woman someone else covets. And how social media has excellerated the process.

[@theresataylor6675]

Preach it, Sister Brit.

[@DMDvideo10]

*0s was ushered in by New Wave and Punk styles of rock music. But the pop stuff kept coming as well..

[@stevenomnipitent6208]

It's true, when I went into the Marine Corps so called friends asked out my first girlfriend, men were always after my first and second wife. Only my second wife never cheated on me, 48 years now and going strong.

[@victoriataylor6741]

You absolutely crack me up! You remind me so much of my cousin. We're the same age & growing up (and to this day) I still laugh at things she says now. 😊

[@donaldstewart8342]

If want one that gets you in the feels,try Dr Hook " (One More Year Of) "Daddy's Little Girl"

[@johnhextall1136]

Great innuendo Britt!

[@roadwary56]

Misogyny?!?! Brit, you know better than that. It's called the nature of man and woman in normalcy, not the twisted suppressive PC ladened, walking on eggshells, I'm outraged about everything that has come before me... me,me,me world we live in today. This song is innocent but very true and it goes both ways of course. You bet your husband keeps an eye on things. But obviously trust is key and a good moral compass as you know. BUT...we are all mere humans

[@WakeUp-p6h]

70s was til 82/83 ISH .. then Early Metal came in, Likes of Guns N Roses etc mid 80s