Broadway Limited Paragon 4 PRR E6 Atlantic 4-4-2 Review

Way too expensive and not a good puller

[@officialpennsyjoe]

I gutted mine and put TCS WOW in it. I love it a lot better now. Paid 380$ total for it, but I think it is worth less with Paragon 4. With TCS WOW and some other lighting features added like firebox flicker, I could agree with a 380$ price tag.

[@JoshSmith-eq7kp]

@Pennsy Joe you did a FANTASTIC Job on that it sounds SO ACCURATE well done!!!!!!!!!!!

[@gonebamboo4116]

Tell me about putting TCS in the decapod, waiting for that vid. I'm new to DCC and best I can tell, it sucks! Everyone has to use it, is the only saving grace

[@gilbertporter4992]

You don't have to be a hardcore Pennsylvania railroad fan to want one. I am sort of a casual Pennys fan, although I am not sure what would make one hardcore. I am happy for the refurb store BLI offers, but with the exchange rate the way it is, it will still be near $500 Canadian from the refurb price of $359.99.

[@gageludwick7571]

It is shiny because it’s the museum edition of that locomotive

[@RodimusPrime]

Yes and in person seeing it I can tell you the real one is very shiny

[@OriginalBongoliath]

I have a BLI refurb coming in for Christmas ($359). Also have some Con-Cor Pennsylvania P54 commuter coaches coming in as well for it to pull.

[@Frob25]

I was very much considering purchasing one of these for my collection, but to spend $500+ and have something that sounds like it was built 10+ years ago. On top of that, I purchased a BLI streamlined K4 last spring. Worked fine then. Went to run it for the first time since last spring here a couple weeks ago, and now it doesn't move. 😒 Not too keen on purchasing more BLI at the moment

[@RodimusPrime]

My BLI streamlined K4 ive had on the layout constant for almost 3 years and its been amazing performer

[@JoshSmith-eq7kp]

Definitely needs Tcs or Esu totally agree Paragon 4 is awful

[@DGModelworks]

Good review Matt. I understand why you had to have it. I wouldn't mind one myself actually, but the budget doesn't allow it right now. Glad I'm not the only one who has had trouble getting "in the mood" lately.

[@RodimusPrime]

I think its worth passing up for alot of other small steam locos that are better

[@James-Railyard]

I’m looking to get the 1920’s version and gut the Parajunk for Tsunami 2.

[@joegiblin1341]

Did you see the driving wheels reversed. The heavy weight should be on the rear wheel not the front one.

[@RodimusPrime]

I wouldnt know

[@exarkun42]

Overall a good review of a beautiful engine. Not sure why you think the sounds are bad (I have a BLI Paragon 3 Cab Forward that sounds great). I do agree that it is a bit overpriced for what it is, though inflation may have a part to play in that. I do think your criticism of its lack of pulling power is a bit unfair. I have an atlantic in my fleet, and it has a similar issue, but I think that is to be expected. It only has two driven axles, after all.

[@RodimusPrime]

Pulling a 7 car passenger train isnt a huge ask

[@exarkun42]

@@RodimusPrime That is about the top limit of my atlantic. I am just saying that asking any more than that of an atlantic is silly.

[@gonebamboo4116]

@@RodimusPrime Who is RodimusPrime? I thought this was Matt's Performance Locomotive

[@gonebamboo4116]

@@exarkun42 Far as I know, atlantics weren't found in mountain districts and I never saw actual footage with more than two or three coaches

[@RodimusPrime]

@@gonebamboo4116 something changed on youtube and it went back to my old channel name in comments its me though lol

[@northpennvalleysteamrailroad]

Awesome

[@mojessedax9089]

Matt, have you still got the MTH ho big Boy the you reviewed around 2022? you didn't like the sound. anyway, have you still got it? Cheers!

[@elijahglasser1421]

Very cool Paragon

[@ethanisaacs8472]

Is that a Bachman spectrum pennsy sleeper car I see? I've only been able to find coaches and diners. Where'd you get it?

[@RodimusPrime]

A train shop back in the 90s thats not been around for decades

[@NorfolkAndWestern611]

Where did you get yours because this is a very in accurate model first it’s nit suppose to have a keystone number board on the front it’s way too shiny I do t know if you noticed this the headlight is way down but nice sounding model

[@RodimusPrime]

The shiny one is the as it appears today version and seeing the recently cosmetically restored real life one in strasburg I can confirm it is indeed shiny

[@NorfolkAndWestern611]

@@RodimusPrime oh yeah I forgot about that one lol but I’m thinking about getting one for myself do you have a link for any Pennsylvania railroad heavyweight cars?

[@RodimusPrime]

@@NorfolkAndWestern611 bachmanns are always cheap and branchline and walthers make heavyweights but none are currently run it would have to be a train show or ebay find

[@NorfolkAndWestern611]

@@RodimusPrime oh okay thanks and nice model!

[@parts323]

I would not call the cost a deterrent to the overall quality of the locomotive. If you shopped around you could have got it a lot cheaper. I paid $459.00 for mine.

[@RodimusPrime]

I made the mistake of pre ordering through trainworld. In any case this engine shouldnt be a dime over 350 for as small as it is

[@officialpennsyjoe]

I agree with Matt. I paid 380$ full for mine, but it could have been a lot better for the price with better electronics that are made by the likes of ESU or TCS. Which by the way, I have done a TCS swap on my E6s, and in my opinion it is a lot better.

[@gilbertporter4992]

Where did you pay $459 for it?

[@parts323]

@@RodimusPrime I understand. I preordered from my local hobby store that also discounts.

[@gonebamboo4116]

Wait for it . . . the P4 K4s will be $800. Its about the money supply generated by the Fed more than anything else

[@bluebear6570]

Cheap packaging? You must have lost all your wits! This type of packaging is the best protection you can get.

[@gonebamboo4116]

I don't know that its the best or wether its cheap but I do prefer it over the foam that snags and bends every detail.

[@FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial]

Is it die-cast?

[@RodimusPrime]

Yes