The Engines of the Titanic

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@Si1983h
@Si1983h 7 жыл бұрын
The level of engineering is astounding, no CAD in those days, not even a calculator, all this was done with brain power and put down on paper. Just mind blowing.
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was really very clever!
@michaelmcneil4168
@michaelmcneil4168 7 жыл бұрын
Not that it got them far
@YodaWhat
@YodaWhat 7 жыл бұрын
Did they not have sliderules for calculations? Did they not have "computers" of the two-legged variety?
@brucerogermorgan2388
@brucerogermorgan2388 6 жыл бұрын
The technology was not that new then, they had had steam engines for over 100 years, so they knew what they were working with.
@mrdojob
@mrdojob 6 жыл бұрын
The turbine is what I found great. The machining and fluid dynamics involved in the turbine is amazing for the time. It's very similar to a modern day jet engine. The stationary blades directing airflow into the moving blades is brutally simple but getting your head around it back then and making it was anything but. "Theoretically" they were mostly into the jet age with the turbine alone.
@ExiledWolf84
@ExiledWolf84 3 жыл бұрын
Can we mention how much of a legend the guy who created this video is, being that 6 years down the road, he is still liking and replying to comments. Props to you brother.
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 3 жыл бұрын
I can tell you that this man enjoys showing a product that others are also interested in.
@sdriza
@sdriza 11 ай бұрын
​@@Hoeishetmogelijkgreatness - helping me recover from surgery. Many thanks
@i3lackflo
@i3lackflo 3 жыл бұрын
Working down there must've been like hell. Crazy to see the transition from a heaven-like luxurious place on the upper decks, and having a living hell just a few decks below all the fun and laughter.
@professorshermanpeabody1237
@professorshermanpeabody1237 Жыл бұрын
good film on that subject: Saving the Titanic. An Irish German production. 2015. On Prime
@chrisbroesky2932
@chrisbroesky2932 4 жыл бұрын
Man all that engineering, all that work, all the iron and materials used, all brand new and sitting at the bottom of the sea rotting away. Beyond incredible.
@jasonyoung297
@jasonyoung297 Жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯 💯, so sad and terrible that beautiful brand new ship was only 3 days old after being built for 3 years and then sinks and everything is underwater to waist away😔
@teixeirastreet
@teixeirastreet Жыл бұрын
brand new might be a strech now, but yes.
@ironmatic1
@ironmatic1 2 ай бұрын
@@jasonyoung297it was not 3 days old bro lol
@saptakbanerjee9712
@saptakbanerjee9712 2 жыл бұрын
110 years passed, Titanic and its related any topic which is informative still attracts me. Something always tickles in my heart, like the sad event shouldn't have taken place. At the last of the video, the oops with bubbling water fillings sounds which indicates the tragic fate that all of the hard work gone underwater, to the bottom of ocean. Poor 1500 souls, rest in peace!!
@wildbill5670
@wildbill5670 6 жыл бұрын
All those hours of craftsmanship that would last for decades, literally brand new, to be sent to the bottom 2 1/2 miles down in total darkness forever.
@Boxscot49
@Boxscot49 4 жыл бұрын
Shit happens y’know?
@zaihami5185
@zaihami5185 4 жыл бұрын
@@Boxscot49 haha
@rbarger71
@rbarger71 4 жыл бұрын
It would have been a brutal collision, but would have been better if she hit the iceberg head on. Maybe she splits the berg in half. Who knows.
@zaihami5185
@zaihami5185 4 жыл бұрын
@@rbarger71 maybe they should try it again
@finscreenname
@finscreenname 4 жыл бұрын
@@rbarger71 Don't think she would have split the berg but it has been proven that she would have been much better off to hit it head on. The first and maybe the second compartment would have flooded but not enough to sink her.
@mikem3875
@mikem3875 3 жыл бұрын
Those stokers had no eye or ear protection, no hard hats. They probably got treated like shit, constantly getting yelled at. And, god only knows how hot it was in those boiler rooms along with all the coal dust. Alot of men nowadays would quit after a few hours.Those were not ordinary men, much respect.
@jmrodas9
@jmrodas9 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with You. Respect and the safety of the workers has progressed a lot since then. Regards.
@ThZuao
@ThZuao 3 жыл бұрын
They were well paid and well respected. Until Oil fired boilers came around, a stoker strike meant ships won't sail. And operating on tight schedules and slim profit margins (the ship had to pay for it's construction and operation. Took 10-20 years for it to turn a profit), stokers could stop the world if they wanted. But it was a hard, short life. Breathing coal dust caused silicosis and being an industrial setting you were subjected to stuff falling from height occasionaly. A cloth mask and a helmet would eliminate these hazards completely. But we simply didn't know any better. And it probably was HOT. Being under the waterline though, maybe it was not as hot as we might think. They had plenty of ventilation by air bled through the furnace air intakes.
@barryphillips7327
@barryphillips7327 3 жыл бұрын
Yes i think you have summed that up very well, they would have worked their asses off, heat well you surrounded by boilers it is going to be HOT!! Similarly the fire men on steam loco,s summers day 25--30 deg C outside, 50++ inside the cab, driver wants MORE steam Big hill coming up, better get shoveling!
@dondubray4253
@dondubray4253 3 жыл бұрын
life is all about choices
@waynebrady4296
@waynebrady4296 3 жыл бұрын
My dad was a stoker in 1930s and spent 50 years at sea, even in his 70s he was someone you wouldn’t mess with, those men were a different breed
@davidclark3304
@davidclark3304 4 жыл бұрын
A matter of interest only, and something many viewers probably know: The engine room scenes in James Cameron's Titanic were filmed in the engine room of the Jeremiah O'Brien, a WW2 liberty ship open to visitors at the San Francisco Maritime Museum. That ship has one engine, and it is smaller than the ones in the Titanic, but similar enough for the movie. The O'Brien is still seaworthy, and accepts paying passengers for short trips.
@chrisst8922
@chrisst8922 4 жыл бұрын
And other scenes were shot at Kempton Park and the whole thing stitched together digitally.
@patsematary
@patsematary 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact the Liberty ship series was cylinders engineered , not steam turbine
@jeffs7482
@jeffs7482 3 жыл бұрын
@@patsematary That is correct. Warships had priority on steam turbines, so the Liberty ship used obsolete expansion steam engines. But they were easy to build and very reliable.
@The_DuMont_Network
@The_DuMont_Network 2 жыл бұрын
The Jeremiah O'Brien steamed from San Francisco to Europe and back to celebrate the 50th anniversary of D-Day. There and back under her own power using the original equipment. And this after sitting in mothballs in Suisun Bay for over 30 years. Well built, well maintained. I wonder how long the Titanic could have lasted?
@8546Ken
@8546Ken 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't the Titanic have mechanical stokers?
@mosesmarlboro5401
@mosesmarlboro5401 5 жыл бұрын
150 men shoveled 600 tons of coal a day by hand, unbelievable. That's 4 tons per man.
@pelnapkins4379
@pelnapkins4379 4 жыл бұрын
Inside a hull riveted by hand. Different times..
@ollie2244
@ollie2244 4 жыл бұрын
@@pelnapkins4379 and it was hot hot hot! Hot environment + physically demanding labour = HOT.
@LynxStarAuto
@LynxStarAuto 4 жыл бұрын
ThatGuy Ollie And didn't complain while doing it. No excuse, just produce.
@Heliotail
@Heliotail 4 жыл бұрын
Not entirely, the builders of Titanic used hydraulic riveters and steel rivets on MOST of the hull, but in areas that were very curved, they had to install the rivets by hand, and that forced them to use wrought iron rivets instead of steel rivets.
@treeguyable
@treeguyable 4 жыл бұрын
Not that hard, I have shoveled over a ton of sand in less than an hour, several times. At 63 yrs old, just part of the job.
@Raptor05121
@Raptor05121 8 жыл бұрын
This is probably the first KZbin video I have watched in which the comments section wasnt blown up by idiots and trolls, and likewise filled with nothing but knowledgeable people explaining things further. 100+ years after her demise, and she still brings us together.
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 8 жыл бұрын
+Raptor05121 That's why I am happy with it!!
@zakshobbiesoldchannel7946
@zakshobbiesoldchannel7946 6 жыл бұрын
Amen Brother.
@romerobryan83
@romerobryan83 6 жыл бұрын
Raptor05121 my best guess is that trolls would have a hard time stumbling across this lol
@daveriddlelin9327
@daveriddlelin9327 6 жыл бұрын
Well screw you too!
@netkongen
@netkongen 6 жыл бұрын
No shit, Sherlock
@lpd1snipe
@lpd1snipe 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! I am a American Ex-Navy and Merchant Marine engineer. I served on a few steam ships. The Raleigh LPD 1, the Denebola TAKR. They had Foster Wheeler boilers and Babcock & Wilcox boilers. Then various ships with Mann diesels, EMD 645 20 cylinder diesels, Sulzer six cylinders 121 rpm diesels. Love steam and this video!
@bam-skater
@bam-skater 3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was an instrument engineer for FW in glasgow
@lolcatyt2066
@lolcatyt2066 2 жыл бұрын
USS Epping Forest MCS7 Skinner Uniflow recip steam engines
@litamtondy
@litamtondy 3 жыл бұрын
1912 felt more like the future than 2020: not only the technology was incredible, but they did it in style and luxury. Now everything is plastic and meant to be as cheap as possible.
@nstl440
@nstl440 3 жыл бұрын
There's enough quality now. But normal people can't afford it. Just like back then
@litamtondy
@litamtondy 3 жыл бұрын
@@nstl440 That's true for many objects, there is still quality now but it is expensive, but I was thinking about how many things could be built with the purpose of not only being practical, but also beautiful. For example a street lamppost, there's a big difference between a decorated metallic one and a plastic one, yet they both work. The same goes for the houses. And what about modern luxury cars? The infotainment systems are very helpful, but in less than 15 years they will be outdated. The train could be one of most glamour means of transportation, but today they have bad interiors, and depending on the country they might be dirty and inefficient. We are losing that "WOW factor" past people wrote about, when they saw a huge ocean liner, a Zeppelin or a passenger plane going twice the sound of speed. And it is so hard to find everyday objects made from durable and ecological materials, even if you're not looking for luxury. Mine was not a rant about the nostalgia for a time I've never experienced, but a desire for a more humanistic world: not one built around the economy and the corporations, but around nature and our needs as humans, our duty as part of this planet, as we are animals and not machines.
@litamtondy
@litamtondy 3 жыл бұрын
@krvnjrcbs What do you mean? The Titanic was an engineering marvel, the best ship of the time. The incident had nothing to do with how the ship was built.
@litamtondy
@litamtondy 3 жыл бұрын
@krvnjrcbs Oh, you're one of "those" guys. I would like to remember you that the Titanic was insured for just a fraction of her value. There are many arguments disproving the "insurance fraud" theory, I suggest you look them up.
@MMMAX013
@MMMAX013 3 жыл бұрын
@@litamtondy calling someone one "those" people is very condescending of you. Get off your high horse and hear people's beliefs out for a change. Its not uncommon to want to doubt written events especially in a world where history is written by a dishonest few. You sir are a tarnish in human debate
@benmayne6159
@benmayne6159 3 жыл бұрын
I am happy you got the engines right. Most people make the mistake and think that the titanic had "two reciprocating three-cylinder, triple-expansion steam engines", they were a common engine at the time. When in fact it had "two reciprocating FOUR-cylinder, triple-expansion steam engines" This was cause at the time there was no cylinder boring machine large enough to bore the low pressure cylinders diameter. So they used two cylinders the same size as the intermediate pressure for the low pressure stage, so they could build these bigger engines (30 000 horsepower, 22 000 kW). Making these engines four-cylinder, triple-expansion steam engines with the one centrally placed low-pressure Parsons turbine. This centrally placed low-pressure Parsons turbine is one of the reasons the owner wanted to go at full speed, even with "pack ice and iceberg warnings", if the two reciprocating engines were not run at full speed the low-pressure Parsons turbine could not be used. Dropping the efficiency of the ship a lot and increasing the amount of coal burnt for the whole trip, costing the owner more money in burnt coal as well as the ship might not arriving on time.
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting story. Many thanks for that.
@visionist7
@visionist7 Жыл бұрын
Would the stopped centre propeller have freewheeled in the flow, turning the turbine with it?
@MHLegacy
@MHLegacy Жыл бұрын
And boy, could those engines keep a beat. So satisfying to listen to.
@heffoandjuff5903
@heffoandjuff5903 9 жыл бұрын
I have to say as a licensed high pressure stationary steam operating engineer, every thing portrayed on this video is ENTIRELY accurate! Very nicely done. I really enjoyed that little insertion of the donkey steam engine employed to get the larger machine rotating. I am retired, but I sure miss operating large high pressure steam boilers and the associated machinery!
@MrBugsier5
@MrBugsier5 8 жыл бұрын
+heffo and juff one point only it were not triples, but quadruples ..(temds???).for as far as y know
@heffoandjuff5903
@heffoandjuff5903 8 жыл бұрын
+MrBugsier5 You know what, I think you are correct. I know the engines ran on super heated steam.
@kimmer6
@kimmer6 8 жыл бұрын
+heffo and juff I keep telling those pesky boiler operators the same thing my gramma told me: ''Don't you know that a watched pot doesn't boil?'' How can you tell a well seasoned steam operating engineer? His boots hit the desk before his ass hits the chair. Ain't it nice being retired?
@rontroy3843
@rontroy3843 8 жыл бұрын
+heffo and juff A gentleman I knew many years ago (he had to be in his 70's or older when he worked for my father) was a master toolmaker, who had 2 hobbies; history and building (working) model steam engines. Pretty much anything he did was a work of art, but his steam engines were amazing. I'm also a fan of steam locomotives, and right now I'm closely following Union Pacific's rebuilding of Big Boy 4014. If you've never seen a Big Boy it is hard to comprehend just how huge a locomotive it is - weighing around 250k pounds; I look forward to seeing it in operation in a couple years, first time in nearly 60 years that one will operate. Of course, I really like steam ships; my favorite is the SS United States, which if finally brought back to life soon will certainly lose its aircraft carrier based steam. This ship could do somewhere approaching 40 or so knots without all boilers lit off.
@kimmer6
@kimmer6 8 жыл бұрын
+Ron Troy The Old Town Railroad Museum in Sacramento, Ca has a HUGE Forward Cab Baldwin, No. 4294 that was operated by Southern Pacific. I have never seen a Big Boy close up but this Baldwin 4-8-8-2 is absolutely massive. I hope the SS United States will be saved by its new sponsor. The interior was gutted to remove asbestos. I worked for GE Marine Department and had some pretty big steam turbines and gearboxes apart on carriers, container ships, oil tankers, and subs and still have an interest in such propulsion. Every October I ride the SS Jeremiah O'Brien still operating liberty ship in San Francisco Bay. Its on KZbin for those interested in watching the engine in operation.
@alexp3752
@alexp3752 3 жыл бұрын
Simply amazing technology, engineering and skill even today! Given the machine tools available at that time I am nearly speechless at the enormous amount of imagination and hard work required to build such massive (and very heavy) structures. All I can say is people back then possessed a different work ethic and a desire to overcome seemingly impossible tasks. The men who built and stoked the massive engines earned my deepest respect. Many engineers remained at their posts even as the Titanic was about to founder. I wish I had their courage.
@paulhoffman778
@paulhoffman778 4 жыл бұрын
No computers, just paper pencil, and mathematics and the confidence to put it all together wow just wow.. I don't think we could ever grasp how much went into this the tolerances of the machinery, the machinery that built the machines. I often think of all the little pieces in between that is just mindblowing.
@Fifareal1986
@Fifareal1986 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Andrews craftsmanship as a ship builder, more than a hundred years to admire his work.
@MrSvenovitch
@MrSvenovitch 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad he ended up as fishfood
@clf8965
@clf8965 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSvenovitch do you have absolutely no respect??
@farukche3848
@farukche3848 3 жыл бұрын
@@clf8965 Lol what? Where was he disrespectful? All he did is say the truth 😂
@katherineberger6329
@katherineberger6329 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Andrews was primarily responsible for designing the topside fittings - he was a high-ranking and important designer for Harland & Wolff, but he was not the person who designed the engines.
@carrollfc3228
@carrollfc3228 7 жыл бұрын
Is it only me or are steam engines odly satisfying
@justinbiggs1005
@justinbiggs1005 7 жыл бұрын
MechaGaming not just you. They are satisfying. They sound like music to me. Large engines are some of the best music devices to me.
@RedOctober2011
@RedOctober2011 6 жыл бұрын
Like the beat of a mother's heart, heard from the womb.
@mikedench1110
@mikedench1110 5 жыл бұрын
No its not just you, they are almost like big animals in a way, as if they had a heartbeat and muscles! Sounds silly and maybe its just a male thing?
@torquetrain8963
@torquetrain8963 5 жыл бұрын
Reciprocating piston steam engines built for ships are the absolute best. Diesels, turbines,nuclear,electric are fine, but boring compared to marine steam piston engines. Kronprinzessin cecilie ship was said to actually have the largest built.
@tnscavenger
@tnscavenger 5 жыл бұрын
No it's not just you. Live steam speaks to me, reminding me of a by gone time. A time when men were real men and worked with their hands.
@fabiocosta3830
@fabiocosta3830 3 жыл бұрын
A reminder. The Olympic, the eldest sister ship to Titanic and Britanic, kept active for 20+ years until was finally decomissioned and scrapped.
@clf8965
@clf8965 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention survived multiple collisions and rammed a German U-boat! I absolutely adore the Olympic
@crgkevin6542
@crgkevin6542 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always admired the cleverness of the Harland & Wolfe engineers that came up with adding a low pressure turbine to run on exhaust from the triple expansion engines. Squeezing just a bit more work out of steam that was already at less than atmospheric pressure before running it through the condensers. (Which are themselves quite impressive, given that they were effective enough to draw a vacuum in the steam lines...
@sauter1
@sauter1 3 жыл бұрын
I suspect the 9 psi quoted as input pressure to the turbine is in fact gauge pressure, not absolute pressure. So that would be 9 psi *above* atmospheric pressure. :) Otherwise I struggle too to understand how one could maintain steam flow towards the turbine with a partial vacuum at the input when its outlet, at least on start up, would be at atmospheric pressure!
@crgkevin6542
@crgkevin6542 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, but the outlet from the turbine, and engines themselves when bypassing said turbine, isn’t to the atmosphere. The steam is routed to a set of large condensers that turns the steam back in to fresh water to be returned to the boilers. Keeping the whole boiler feed system a mostly closed loop instead of an open system. These condensers used seawater as coolant, and especially in the North Atlantic where it’s quite cold they were quite effective at drawing down a vacuum in the steam system.
@titanicwhiz
@titanicwhiz 7 жыл бұрын
I almost fell asleep listing to the engine sound, so soothing
@bluestarindustrialarts7712
@bluestarindustrialarts7712 6 жыл бұрын
it says Donald Trump, Donald Trump
@mrsauce9307
@mrsauce9307 6 жыл бұрын
Blue Star Industrial Arts 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@flyingdog1498
@flyingdog1498 5 жыл бұрын
The original listeners drowned
@krazi77
@krazi77 5 жыл бұрын
it gave me a headache.
@dogman15
@dogman15 4 жыл бұрын
I wrote a song inspired by it. musescore.com/user/27997005/scores/5962779
@KingTriton1837
@KingTriton1837 4 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering for years how the propellers were actually turned. I knew steam was the driving force, but I wanted to know what was actually turning the propellers. This video is a gem!!!! Thanks for the upload!!!!
@TheIndustrialRetrospective
@TheIndustrialRetrospective Жыл бұрын
I thought that was Pirates of the Caribbean music! Nice!!!
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk Жыл бұрын
You're right!
@suprac19
@suprac19 6 жыл бұрын
The britannics engines although of the same size and dimensions used piston valves on all cylinders instead of slide valves as used on the titanic and Olympic and developed 16,000hp at 77rpm as opposed to 15,000hp at 75rpm and are the largest and most powerful steam reciprocating engines ever constructed.
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX 5 жыл бұрын
16,000 hp per pair? or EACH? if the later, holy crap....
@lfewell2161
@lfewell2161 4 жыл бұрын
46,000hp for the titanic, a few thousand hp more for britannic.
@mark_chirnside
@mark_chirnside 4 жыл бұрын
Note that, in 1911, Olympic's chief engineer stated her engines had developed 59,000 horsepower at maximum revolutions. Britannic would be capable of even more. A 1940s report of H&W's tonnage completed in 1914 put it at 60,000 horsepower.
@mark_chirnside
@mark_chirnside 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect they need to qualify their statement and refer to both triple expansion (as opposed to quadruple expansion) reciprocating engines and for marine, rather than on shore, use. In the case of either Olympic or Britannic's reciprocating engines, they could work well over 80 rpm and develop more power than quoted here. Your mention of rolling mill engines reminded me of a quote. "I do not think many people who have not been there, realise the enormous power that there is got from the steam pressure in these engines; they move comparatively slowly even when at full power, and the power behind them is, I think I am correct in stating, larger than the power behind the biggest rolling mills in the world. That is, the biggest mills that are used anywhere for the rolling of steel plates, as distinct from the forging of armour plates," - Harland & Wolff ’s Edward Wilding, spring 1912. I don't know of any specific examples or whether they used quadruple expansion engines in rolling mills for steel plating?
@Heliotail
@Heliotail 4 жыл бұрын
That is 16,000 shaft horsepower each.
@jumpnrun3368
@jumpnrun3368 6 жыл бұрын
The whole Olympic Class is a marvel of engineering
@justanotherasian4395
@justanotherasian4395 5 жыл бұрын
Jump N´ Run sad that 2 sank and the last was scraped
@JTScott1988
@JTScott1988 5 жыл бұрын
@@justanotherasian4395 iceberg... Submarine bombing... And scrapping. Nothing to do eith their enginuity
@justanotherasian4395
@justanotherasian4395 5 жыл бұрын
Laquinton Wagner never said it had anything to do with that. I just said it’s sad we lost marvels of engineering.
@MrEslender
@MrEslender 5 жыл бұрын
fuck yeah yer right! To me they are the most beautiful ships ever made. You seen the vid on the tube where they blow the Titanic's horns? And you seen the video on youtube "the Olympic arrives in new York 1934"?? check thses out!kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKOTpmienciIZrc
@IDF1987
@IDF1987 5 жыл бұрын
I'd argue Lusitania's propulsion plant was more ahead of her time, largely thanks to turbines instead of triple expansion steam engines. The turbines Lusitania used were precisely what the Navy of WWI used for its capital ships. Now if you're talking about furnishings and luxuries, Titanic put them all to shame.
@icefire001
@icefire001 9 жыл бұрын
That's simply incredible. The ability of a small 2 cylinder steam engine that I could build at home, through gearing, to be able to turn that massive fly wheel to start the mains is absolutely incredible.
@jibemorel
@jibemorel 8 жыл бұрын
+Matt Schuette Not to start it but to warm it evenly and eventually blow the condensed water out of the cylinders. Steam engines are self starting.
@jibemorel
@jibemorel 8 жыл бұрын
+jibemorel oh and for lubrification purposes to.
@gwenynorisu6883
@gwenynorisu6883 8 жыл бұрын
+Matt Schuette I'm not sure that's actually a steam engine, it looks (and sounds) like it might be a petrol powered one. Lighter and more compact for moving by hand against the huge flywheel, for the same power, and no need to deal with setting up flexible pipes etc for it. Be quite easy to turn over and get going by hand, especially in a warm environment like that, and a heck of a lot safer to be around. Open crank etc because a lot of cars were still made like that, and when it's only going to run for mere minutes on a typical voyage, you can just hand-oil it. And it only needs a very small fuel tank as well. Not the greatest amount of torque of course, but that's been demonstrably compensated for by ultra-low gearing... which turns a lot of power at high speed into a lot of torque at low speed. Just a pity no-one had quite managed to crack making a really big one of the type a ship like the Titanic needed. Nowadays of course they're all diesels and need a team of maybe 5 or 10 guys to look after them at most despite developing a hell of a lot more power...
@icefire001
@icefire001 8 жыл бұрын
mspenrice Nah, its a steam engine, I seen a video of a replica of the Titanic's engines. It is a small steam engine that gets the larger ones moving. I'll find it and post it here
@gwenynorisu6883
@gwenynorisu6883 8 жыл бұрын
+Matt Schuette Fair enough then. Suppose when you have that much live steam knocking around you may as well use it. Just seen little auxiliary petrol engines used for getting other large machines moving before.
@ve2zzz
@ve2zzz 4 жыл бұрын
I really liked to only the steam engine noise... No stressing music....
@Gabriel-he6ih
@Gabriel-he6ih 4 жыл бұрын
That is true music to us
@LeRouxshnikov
@LeRouxshnikov 4 жыл бұрын
I was bobbing my head to this all time. nice music, yes
@CiscoWes
@CiscoWes 4 жыл бұрын
Oh some of that “music” they put over videos is horrid. I usually end up muting it.
@junatah5903
@junatah5903 4 жыл бұрын
That repeated sound got annoying fast.
@CiscoWes
@CiscoWes 4 жыл бұрын
Juna True, it should have been at least a minute or two sample rather than a small snippet that was repeated indefinitely.
@jackyclaiborne2142
@jackyclaiborne2142 7 жыл бұрын
I love this!! I love the sound of those engines too. I understand that they are building a replica of the Titanic, but they're going to have a modern day propulsion system. I think that they should still have the same propulsion plant, however, the original style Harland And Wolf boilers should be modified to be fired wth natural gas instead of coal. Tanks for the natural gas would be in place of the coal bunkers. I have been a big time Titanic buff since Jame's Cameron's movie came out. I have adopted the terms "Port" and "Starboard" to refer to my left and right, and use those terms universally for everything. Last year, I had a knee replacement, and it was the starboard knee. I work as a dishwasher in a retirement home, and the kitchen that I work in, I like to refer to it as the "galley".
@ShengTheCraftsman
@ShengTheCraftsman 7 жыл бұрын
it was year 1912, and they have capable of produced such amazing feats of engineering.
@piotrmalewski8178
@piotrmalewski8178 5 жыл бұрын
The ancient Greeks were capable of making mechanical computers.
@Heliotail
@Heliotail 4 жыл бұрын
Using an army of 15,000 of skilled workers from all over Europe and beyond, but most of them were among my Irish ancestors. They worked night and day for nearly four years to build all three Olympic class ships.
@eliekber149
@eliekber149 3 жыл бұрын
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@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 3 жыл бұрын
1912 was just seven years from the first non-stop Atlantic flight, the end of the liner era was almost imaginable.
@foolishsuckas
@foolishsuckas Жыл бұрын
@@piotrmalewski8178 greeks who?
@marty906
@marty906 Жыл бұрын
All this engineering, technology and effort and they ran into a iceberg - amazing.
@affanowais5338
@affanowais5338 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos of KZbin , I've seen this multiple of times and always appreciate Mr.Andrews work simply a legend 💗 , the engine sound is horrifying yet beautiful , it's a horrifying melancholy hitting you with the reminisce of that tragic incident 😥 , R I P all of those souls that met death that fateful day
@jonmcalexander6475
@jonmcalexander6475 6 жыл бұрын
The engines play a catchy tune
@justinbiggs1005
@justinbiggs1005 6 жыл бұрын
Lol. Right? It's soothing in some manner. If I wanted to I'd put on headphones and go to sleep to the sound of a steam engine or large diesel engine. Large engines make for some good music.
@malign3158
@malign3158 4 жыл бұрын
Boonk dookah shhhn (dookah)
@brandonwombacher2559
@brandonwombacher2559 4 жыл бұрын
It Does
@CASH-TO-THE-MERE101
@CASH-TO-THE-MERE101 4 жыл бұрын
Jon Mcalexander 😷
@jonmcalexander6475
@jonmcalexander6475 4 жыл бұрын
Cash-to-the-mere Cash-to-the-mere lol my comment was 2 years ago
@recklessrex
@recklessrex 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I'd love to see how the electric engines/dynamos (aka the "generator room") fit in to this whole plan
@123Chevyman
@123Chevyman 2 жыл бұрын
Just some more turbines, driven directly on steam I guess. A lot of space, maybe towards the front.
@recklessrex
@recklessrex 2 жыл бұрын
@@123Chevyman I already know the location of the electric engine room. It was was just aft of the turbine engine room, and contained four dynamos which I think were piston style engines, but not 100% on that. What I meant by "how they fit into the plan" is that I'd like to know how they fit into the steam pipe network specifically, and also the interior workings of how the engines themselves functioned
@Rudeljaeger
@Rudeljaeger Жыл бұрын
No they werent towards the front. That was the reason why the Titanic did have electricity up until the very end The Dynamos were dry in because the aft flooded last
@recklessrex
@recklessrex Жыл бұрын
@@Rudeljaeger yeah, the electric engine room was far aft on tank top level, just aft of the turbine engine. And then also there were the back up dynamos about 2/3 or so aft on D-deck, around about where the ship split. It's not likely that either saw much flooding before the break up, and the break up probably crushed both rooms anyway, so flooding was the least of their worries at that point
@Vexxtrin
@Vexxtrin 7 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see such ingenuity from so long ago. Amazingly we still use the same techniques of warming up water to drive turbines for almost all out power sources. This was the start of a great era in engineering.
@thatrecord5313
@thatrecord5313 4 жыл бұрын
I love how everyone finds the steam engines satisfying and I'm here being overwhelmed by these massive machines...
@STLCODPS3123
@STLCODPS3123 4 жыл бұрын
The more I research and learn about the Titanic, the more I am amazed at the scale of engineering and efficiency of her workings
@4Gehe2
@4Gehe2 5 жыл бұрын
It seems insane to think about how you could design something like this without CAD and calculators. But then an old engineer told me that it really is easier than most people think. Why? Because where nowadays you have one or few engineers assigned to do a thing, they had whole hundreds of engineers, armies of technical drawers, lots of people doing calculations and paperwork. There was so much more collective brain power to solve problems.
@robinfernandez1992
@robinfernandez1992 4 жыл бұрын
Sir im confusing what is the meaning of CAD?
@euripides2134
@euripides2134 4 жыл бұрын
@@robinfernandez1992 Computer Aided Design.
@robinfernandez1992
@robinfernandez1992 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for that sir .
@Wingedmechanic
@Wingedmechanic 2 жыл бұрын
And when they worked, they worked. No distractions from phone calls or emails or zoom meetings.
@iasciateognisperanza3267
@iasciateognisperanza3267 2 жыл бұрын
Two thing: , a team of well dressed engineers. and No KZbin !
@johanneskristian
@johanneskristian 7 жыл бұрын
Marine Engineer here. Really appreciated this, good job :-)
@italomix2611
@italomix2611 3 жыл бұрын
3258 dislikes? The video Is amazing. Can't understand people
@cvdheyden
@cvdheyden 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding explanation. I am truely amazed. Without any of the tools we have these days, these guys must be extraordinarily intelligent, dedicated and diligent to create such a masterpiece of a ship. How greatly would all the engineers today fail, receiving such a hughe task. An how well must alle these people be managed and coordinated to put all this together. No one today could imagine the necessary means. Thank you for this!
@brianhay4024
@brianhay4024 4 жыл бұрын
I stumbled across this video and was fascinated. I watched it 3 times. It's a very clear depiction but after the mechanics are understood one starts to think about life in the black gang or how they engineered and build this stuff in 1909. Amazing work. Adding the photographs was a great touch.
@fatsolutions
@fatsolutions 8 жыл бұрын
I knew realised that large steam engines had a small steam "starter" motor! Thank you for such an amazing video
@ostlandr
@ostlandr 8 жыл бұрын
Actually, that's a "barring engine". For smaller engines, to put the engine in starting position (high pressure piston just past Top Dead Center) an engineer would have used a crowbar to adjust it. Also, before the engine was started, it was necessary to make sure no water had condensed in the cylinders, which would severely damage the engine. So, the engineer would "bar it over" one full revolution. When engines became too large for this, the barring engine was added.
@fatsolutions
@fatsolutions 8 жыл бұрын
Mark Stockman that's awesome thank you for the extra information, hydraulicing is never a good thing and I didn't think about that being an issue but it makes complete sense! I have a Cat conrod that is bent into an S shape because an injector leaked causing the cylinder to flood.
@steamedup2
@steamedup2 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Stockman also known as a pony engine.
@brucerogermorgan2388
@brucerogermorgan2388 6 жыл бұрын
Only non-reversable engines had a small ("barring") engine, it was to bring the pistons to the correct positon for starting. Reversable engines did not need it, they could start in any position.
@Welv1987
@Welv1987 2 жыл бұрын
using a smaller steam engine to start the big one, that's very clever
@NorthPoleJeff
@NorthPoleJeff 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for such a fantastic job in showing the engines of the Titanic. I was stationed on the USS Kitty Hawk which weighed about 85,000 tons, a bit bigger than the Titanic, except we didn't sink. Only once did I get to go into the engine room. It was fantastic to see the four prop shafts turning and even being able to touch them as they turned. It was fantastic, but after looking at your video, it wasn't anything like the Titanic. With all of the stokers working and the coal dust and noise, the Titanic was not fantastic, but insane, but really fantastic too, especially for those days. Thanks again for such a great video. C. Jeff Dyrek, Webmaster, Disabled Vet. Polar Explorer.
@robertbenoit5374
@robertbenoit5374 6 жыл бұрын
different boiler setup on the Kitty Hawk because Titanic was coal and Kitty Hawk was diesel fired boilers. Either way I wish I had the experience you did. I never made into the fire room on USS Guam to see the engineering plant.
@IcyLittleBlades
@IcyLittleBlades 8 жыл бұрын
Nothing like the sound of these old steam engines. They were so cool.
@adolfhitler5034
@adolfhitler5034 5 жыл бұрын
Yes but slower and sometimes they failed
@JTScott1988
@JTScott1988 5 жыл бұрын
I think the best ones honestly.
@dying101666
@dying101666 5 жыл бұрын
they are so calming. a good earworm for someone who has bad anxieties.
@kyleglenn2434
@kyleglenn2434 5 жыл бұрын
My dad was a actual steam engineer for Lykes . He always thought that the triple expansion steam engine was never fully exploited.
@johnwatson3948
@johnwatson3948 4 жыл бұрын
In another video it’s mentioned that coal-fired steamships were painted black because of the dust spill from loading the coal.
@casesully50
@casesully50 4 жыл бұрын
Huh, I never even thought about that. Makes sense!
@LynxStarAuto
@LynxStarAuto 4 жыл бұрын
All coal-fired steamers of the era are black because of this. Check it out for yourself. Pretty much all of them. Coal is a dirty, and streaks. It also causes ash. Watch videos of the Britannic in hospital configuration. It's paint scheme will give away just how dirty these vessels got from the coal. Crew would spend a better part of a week just cleaning them between trips.
@williamwingo4740
@williamwingo4740 4 жыл бұрын
I think I saw that one. It also said that it could take up to 24 hours to reload the ship with coal; it was a very complex, dangerous, dirty, labor-intensive process; and you couldn't do much of anything else while coaling. No wonder oil caught on quickly even though it was considerably more expensive.
@taraswertelecki3786
@taraswertelecki3786 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamwingo4740 It was more expensive, but the energy density of fuel oil is much better than coal. That was why Olympic was converted to use fuel oil, which doubled her range because the coal bunkers were turned into fuel tanks. Fuel oil has twice the energy density of coal, so instead of burning over 600 tons of coal a day, Britannic burned about 250 to 300 tons of fuel oil a day.
@eliekber149
@eliekber149 3 жыл бұрын
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@kc4cvh
@kc4cvh 6 жыл бұрын
This video reinforces my belief that Titanic's reciprocating engines did not reverse in advance of the allision with the iceberg, as depicted in the Cameron film. They would be incapable of starting in reverse until the weigh came off the ship as the flow of the sea through the screws would keep them turning and create a large opposing torque against reverse movement.
@robertbenoit5374
@robertbenoit5374 6 жыл бұрын
its a Hollywood film. Great film, I seen it twice. You have to realize that nobody really knows what happened on the bridge as the entire bridge crew did not survive that night. It is assumed and often suggested that the officer on the bridge ordered all back full and hard left rudder. YES I SAID LEFT. WE DON'T SAY PORT AND STARBOARD with rudder orders. Certified Master Helmsman US NAVY. Although military, the orders are the same in the civilian world as well. It is to avoid confusion because Engine orders on a multiple shaft ship are port and starboard. The problem with that even if the engines went to reverse is that it would have been more like a twist than a turn. It isn't so much about torque as it is momentum. GRAVITY. first law of motion states that an object in motion stays in motion until acted upon by an equal an opposite reaction force. That means the force opposite has to be equal to make them go in reverse. the engines on a steam ship don't just reverse. Someone has to turn a valve and reverse the steam flow. Train engine and ship engine both work in the same basic idea that a valve has to force steam flowing the opposite way. This is one of the reasons steam is so inefficient.
@kc4cvh
@kc4cvh 6 жыл бұрын
@@robertbenoit5374 The orders from the bridge or the telegraph indication has no bearing on whether the screws reversed, it defies the laws of physics if they did. This is because: a) As long as the ship makes headway, the screws will continue to turn forward unless sufficient opposing torque is applied to halt them, much like the wheels on a motor vehicle b) There was no brake on the propeller shafts to provide this torque c) The reciprocating engines were not self-starting, they had to be turned with a starting engine to a certain position to start d) On the first half-revolution, only the high-pressure cylinder acts, so the torque is low. On the next half-turn, the intermediate cylinder begins to act, less the losses due to "cold" cylinders at the start. Then the low-pressure cylinders after one full turn, after even more losses. So, the reciprocating engines could not be rapidly brought to a halt in the right position for reverse starting and would be incapable of immediately producing the torque necessary for reverse rotation. And of course, the turbine had no reverse capability.
@kc4cvh
@kc4cvh 6 жыл бұрын
@@robertbenoit5374 The orders from the bridge or the telegraph indication has no bearing on whether the screws reversed, it defies the laws of physics if they did. This is because: a) As long as the ship makes headway, the screws will turn forward unless sufficient opposing torque is applied to halt them, much like the wheels on a car continue turning unless enough torque is applied to make them slip (or cavitate) b) There was no brake on the propeller shafts to provide this torque and the reciprocating engines were permanently connected to the screws c) The reciprocating engines were not self-starting, they had to be turned with a starting engine to a certain position to start d) On the first half-revolution, only the high-pressure cylinder acts, so the torque is low. On the next half-turn, the intermediate cylinder begins to act, less the losses due to cooling/condensation. Then the low-pressure cylinders after one full turn, after even more losses. So, the reciprocating engines could not be rapidly brought to the right position for reverse starting and could not immediately produce the torque necessary for reverse rotation. And of course, the turbine had no reverse capability.
@chrysalisld.3002
@chrysalisld.3002 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about the movie’s engine scenes: those were the engines of a different ship, the Jeremiah O’Brien. The engines were mirrored and scaled up to size, which is why they appear HUGE in the film. However, in reality, the engine is about the size of your standard human.
@78a67h
@78a67h 6 жыл бұрын
For non engineers: At the time steam turbines were already in use and replacing the reciprocating engines, but on the Titanic it was decided to use 2 traditional reciprocating main engines because they had been proven in service and well understood by engineers. In effect Titanic's complete propulsion system was an early hybrid as it incorporated one small low pressure steam turbine, along with the reciprocating main engines, to drive the smaller central propeller as shown in the animation. The small steam turbine could not be reversed so it would be disabled when the ship was moving astern
@katherineberger6329
@katherineberger6329 Жыл бұрын
Further note: The first geared turbines were developed in 1911, well after Titanic had been designed. By 1917, all new naval construction used geared turbines. Titanic's turbine being fed by waste gas from the main engines was an energy recovery method; the turbine was the last stage before the spent steam reached the condensers for reuse as feedwater.
@ehdo-tool
@ehdo-tool 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing how they managed to plan such an engine. Great engineering!
@chriswardlow9441
@chriswardlow9441 4 жыл бұрын
Big Titanic enthusiast have been for over 65 years and this video is just awesome absolutely fantastic,very well DONE.The sound of the engines give's you an idea of what it must have been like working with the noise, the heat, and the dust, and of cause the sweat.Brilliant thanks for sharing.
@MattsMotorz
@MattsMotorz 8 жыл бұрын
Damn this is amazing. it is such a shame it is all at the bottom of the ocean.
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, and all was brand new!
@SunnyFLBoy
@SunnyFLBoy 7 жыл бұрын
why don't they salvage the Titanic? They could restore it and make it a museum. I'd love to visit it.
@dansneyd4646
@dansneyd4646 7 жыл бұрын
Chris Keller also it's basically one big grave
@enginestheyreamazing4568
@enginestheyreamazing4568 6 жыл бұрын
But hey they built the Titanic II but I'm not sure if it has the steam engines like the Titanic had
@beniac_maniac4359
@beniac_maniac4359 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the Olympic’s engines hadn’t been scrapped. They would have been the largest triple expansion steam engines ever existed. Larger than the Kempton engine.
@Karuminu2
@Karuminu2 8 жыл бұрын
So much detail and planning and thinking and backbone was put into making these magnificent ships. I loved listening to the sounds of the engine as if it were a large set of heart and lungs beating and breathing.
@friedoutmukke864
@friedoutmukke864 4 жыл бұрын
1980: by 2020 there will be flying cars 2020: me dancing in the living room to Titanic steam engine sound
@Becu1001a
@Becu1001a 3 жыл бұрын
Flying cars didn't arrive until 2045 as preference was given to the development of a clock work engine. With the spring being wound up by an exactly matched key. The exact matching of this key to each engine was to prevent unauthorised starting and theft. Once available power/weight ratios were sorted out the flying car was placed into production. One wind of the spring would give you enough energy to fly the car 100Kms. It could also be wound up whilst in flight giving it great versatility. And best of all no carbon foot print.
@terrypennington2519
@terrypennington2519 3 жыл бұрын
@@Becu1001a bro _what_
@romangeneral23
@romangeneral23 3 жыл бұрын
@@Becu1001a Are you ok?
@Kodobrr
@Kodobrr 3 жыл бұрын
@@Becu1001a _come again?_
@kevinbautsch
@kevinbautsch 4 ай бұрын
That must have been a sight being in that engine room. Feeling the power! Must have been amazing.
@davida1hiwaaynet
@davida1hiwaaynet 8 жыл бұрын
Very good animation. The Titanic was a ship ahead of her time. The tragedy could have been avoided if.... navigation technology had been equal to the powerplant technology.
@SolarWebsite
@SolarWebsite 8 жыл бұрын
+davida1hiwaaynet Also if "decision making technology" had realised the limitions of the navigation technology of the day, this tragedy could have been avoided.
@Tubecraft1
@Tubecraft1 8 жыл бұрын
I think pride was a big factor. If they had not sailed with blind faith though an ice field the story might have been different too
@zacharylagler242
@zacharylagler242 8 жыл бұрын
+davida1hiwaaynet if they hadn't reversed the engines when the iceberg was spotted she would have made it. You cant steer a ship of that size with little propulsion going past the rudder.
@forevercomputing
@forevercomputing 8 жыл бұрын
+Zachary Lagler The reversing encouraged the ship to broadside the iceberg. Should have only steered.
@SolarWebsite
@SolarWebsite 8 жыл бұрын
Zachary Lagler Yes, very true. Reversing the centre propeller made the already-too-small rudder ineffective. Amazing (with the luxury of hindsight) that this design was operational.
@robertgoidel
@robertgoidel 6 жыл бұрын
Very, very impressive animation of the Titanic's engine layout, with all the stages of steam this ship had to produce from the boilers to the different steam engine cylinders to compensate for the differing psi's of the steam for pressure and temperatures. The amount of coal use was staggering to imagine how 159 men had to shovel this huge amount of coal into the boiler's fire boxes is exhausting just to imagine the labor involved. Cannot think how much just this team of laborers were paid on a daily basis. Also, how did Harland and Wolf work out the fares for the differing classes of passengers that traveled on this immense boat in 1912 just to make a profit? People had to eat, drink, and use their respective bathrooms, how did Titanic arrange the human waste? Did Titanic use waste tanks or just jettison the wastes into the ocean?
@HesJustSteven
@HesJustSteven 4 жыл бұрын
What's funny is that coal tenders were actually paid pretty well but of course the conditions they were in would be unbearable
@treeguyable
@treeguyable 4 жыл бұрын
1912, I would venture to say , well, poopdeck comes to mind.
@timothyreed8417
@timothyreed8417 2 жыл бұрын
Harland & Wolf were the builders. White Star lines were the owners. They made a lot of money. (Profit)….waste feed the ocean…..
@davidmarshall1259
@davidmarshall1259 8 жыл бұрын
steam, under pressure, is immensely powerful. this just demonstrates the fact. although the usage of coal is so environmentally unfriendly nowadays, it was all they had back then. but wow, that must have been some boiler room. its bleddy obvious that one must have been only able to appreciate the true scale of it if they were to actually be in the place and soak up the vastness of it all. what an engineering masterpiece. lost forever. shame.
@TheSmileyFacedPizza
@TheSmileyFacedPizza 8 жыл бұрын
+DAVID Marshall Coal is still the most common fuel. At least in the US.
@davidmarshall1259
@davidmarshall1259 8 жыл бұрын
TheSmileyFacedPizza the usa is one of the biggest polluters on this planet, consuming 25% of the planets energy sources. such a selfish, wasteful nation. shame on the usa.
@Berchol
@Berchol 8 жыл бұрын
+DAVID Marshall possibly because they respond alone for a third of world's economy. If a tiny little country was responsible for these numbers I could say "shame on it!" but that's not the case.
@worldofai-games1036
@worldofai-games1036 8 жыл бұрын
+TheSmileyFacedPizza We still have an abundant supply of coal left in the US (close to 1000 years) as opposed to crude oil and natural gas. There is some research on how to make coal burning cleaner. It's dirty, but it might be our only power source in the future (renewable energy still forms a tiny fraction of our energy usage).
@zodiotekgaming
@zodiotekgaming 8 жыл бұрын
There's still Bio Diesel you can get from Algae, so it shouldn't be a massive problem
@Khloe_dancer_model
@Khloe_dancer_model 4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! We are so use to thinking about the romance of Jack and Rose and we forget about Titanic as a WHOLE.Mr.Andrews still surprises us 108 years later.What a genius.❤️❤️❤️
@visionist7
@visionist7 4 жыл бұрын
Not me. Jack and Rose are just an invention to sell movie tickets. The fascination of Titanic has always been in the real people who built, sailed and died.
@beagle7622
@beagle7622 6 жыл бұрын
From what I understand the 3 White Star Ships built at that time we’re very conventional in design . The Cunard ship were at the cutting edge of technology at the time not only being faster but using state of the art propulsion systems based around Steam Turbines.
@bhalachandrakamat5996
@bhalachandrakamat5996 4 жыл бұрын
Like the steam sound and engine design it is outstanding
@PistonAvatarGuy
@PistonAvatarGuy 9 жыл бұрын
The SketchUp model is incredible! Thank you for making it available for download.
@Chris119.
@Chris119. 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to imagine that there still may be small cavities somewhere inside the engines, maybe in holes where bolts went in or inside the piston cylinders perhaps where the sea water still has not gotten to since it sank. Still preserved surfaces of this machine. Also incredible to imagine just how much space of the ship was taken up by the engines and boilers.
@mattiasholmstrom103
@mattiasholmstrom103 3 жыл бұрын
From 7:00 and forward that engine stroke sounds like its singing "I-am-powerful, I-am-powerful, I-am-powerful.
@j-man6001
@j-man6001 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful feat of engineering. Back when there was pride and craftsmanship. So sad for her loss, as she truly was a marvel!
@simonchaddock4274
@simonchaddock4274 2 жыл бұрын
The condesers did a bit more than simply condense the steam into water because in doing so the pressure was reduced to signifcantly below atmospheric pressure. This meant the centre turbine had a larger diffential pressure accross it than just the 9 psi of the LP cylinder exhaust. As a result the turbine generated significant power once steady state running was achieved. The combined engines were in effect running in a quadruple expansion mode. For its time the Titanic was quite effcient.
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 2 жыл бұрын
A very clear analysis. Thanks!
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious how efficient steam engines were back then. How much of the energy was wasted out the exhaust stack? An internal combustion engine only uses about 20% of it's fuels energy, the rest is wasted as heat going out the tail pipe or radiator.
@simonchaddock4274
@simonchaddock4274 Жыл бұрын
@@johneckert1365 It all to do with the temperature and pressures involved. A boiler has a limited pressure and temperature it can withstand. Internal combustion can reach much high pressures and temperatures but of course it is a cyclic process whereas a steam turbine is a continuous cycle. The higher temperature and pressure of internal combustion may give it a better heat efficiency than a steam plant but the products of its combustion are more toxic to the planet.
@helgejohannessen4728
@helgejohannessen4728 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing skills 108 years ago.What a level of brilliance. How can 2.1k give thumb down?
@SteffenReichel
@SteffenReichel 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but Titanics engines were able to start on it's own and never had a 'donkey' to start. They had a turning engine for lubrication issues and maintainance, but the main engine can be started absolutely on it's own... The engine at Kempton Park needs a starting engine, because has a valve gear without direction chenge, like Titanics Stephenson linkage had. So you need to put the HP Cylinder piston in 10° from top death, to startup, and it takes 3 full rounds till all feed lines are filled and even LP Cylinder works completely well.
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are right!
@JasonJason210
@JasonJason210 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that.
@chloealexa189
@chloealexa189 8 жыл бұрын
So who was the Giant who re positioned the valve gear for direction then. That's what the little engine was for. Go back and read the Marine steam engineering books of the time, as that is my source for info.
@JasonJason210
@JasonJason210 8 жыл бұрын
+Chloe Alexa I've also been looking at old text books. There are plenty of them online at archive.org. What Steffan says makes complete sense and consistent with what I sm reading. Marine and locomotive steam engines could be started from any position.
@chloealexa189
@chloealexa189 8 жыл бұрын
Never said that they couldn't as I have operated both. So with the two engines and their massive size just how, when going full forward, do you move tons of iron to full reverse?? Think of the 'Johnson Bar on a locomotive, that got it's name justifiably, and in the USA had to go to power reverse, because of weight of the valve gear. Locomotive cylinders are also 90 degrees out of phase for the purposes of starting.
@nodrogawson963
@nodrogawson963 8 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, explained a lot that I have never understood before, makes a lot more sense to me now when I see a layout drawing. Thank you for sharing, very much appreciated.
@stokerboiler
@stokerboiler 8 жыл бұрын
The Titanic at 22 knots was about as fast as reciprocating-engined ships got. The Royal Navy had some 23 knot armored cruisers that used recips but everything else that was faster used only turbines.
@nanieas
@nanieas 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of best explanation of how a triple expansion steam engine with a low pressure steam turbine works. Brilliant!
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 8 жыл бұрын
A lot of data and concept familiarization covered in an admirably short clip. Good work.
@SteveAubrey1762
@SteveAubrey1762 8 жыл бұрын
It's really amazing. Think about naval propulsion 100 years PRIOR to 1912. they had really come a long way in a relatively short time.
@Berchol
@Berchol 8 жыл бұрын
Such a pity that the technology to build the ship itself didn't improve as fast as their powerplants. An engineering masterpiece wrapped on an eggshell...
@jamesshunt5123
@jamesshunt5123 8 жыл бұрын
+bercholr Listen. She was *far* from an "engineering masterpiece" in 1912. Nothing in her design was revolutionary or innovative. I.K. Brunel's SS Great Eastern *was* innovative when she was new and a lot of new techniques had to be invented for her to be built at all. TItanic still relied on old steam boilers fed by manual labor. That was rapidly going out even in 1912 and the future was clearly pure diesel, turbo-electric or steam-turbines. Cunard understood that speed was of essence and their Mauretania was easily faster than the Olympic class ocean liners of White Star Line. White Star went a different route - bigger and more luxurious. The rudder of the Titanic was also archaic by 1912 standards and based on designs from the late 1840's. It was too small for a ship that size too. Luxury? Yes. Size? Yes. Legandary? Well, since she sunk and took 1500 souls with her. Engineering masterpiece? Get real.
@Ignignokt5150
@Ignignokt5150 8 жыл бұрын
Very , very cool . From an engineering standpoint , they were just massive . I lament all the work that went into that ship only to have it and the loss of life on it's maiden voyage .
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 8 жыл бұрын
+Ignignokt Mooninite Yes, I agree with that
@brianmerritt5410
@brianmerritt5410 7 жыл бұрын
I always think of that. All that iron, all the carved Mahogany, crystal, stained glass, and bronze. Jewels and fine clothing, artwork. All at the bottom of the ocean.
@brianmerritt5410
@brianmerritt5410 7 жыл бұрын
Imagine how the builders of the Death Star felt.
@marlo8850
@marlo8850 7 жыл бұрын
+Brian Merritt um they and he is dead in you watched rogue One
@Zhiivago
@Zhiivago Жыл бұрын
I love this! The engines sound like Techno 🏭🚢
@_Matsimus_
@_Matsimus_ 9 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@marlo8850
@marlo8850 6 жыл бұрын
Matsimus WTF how did i find you here lol
@Astro_Aladfar
@Astro_Aladfar 3 жыл бұрын
A truly sadisfying video being music to the ears!
@theenzoferrari458
@theenzoferrari458 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao that ending. Let's go sailing. Then oops.
@radonsider9692
@radonsider9692 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mat🙂
@SNmaper
@SNmaper 3 жыл бұрын
it is but only in mute mode
@MrFang333333
@MrFang333333 8 жыл бұрын
Great animation! Crazy to think I actually have a nice little lump of coal from the Titanic.
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 8 жыл бұрын
Save it! It's worth a lot!
@Ghostly_boyLol
@Ghostly_boyLol 7 жыл бұрын
MrFang333333 how did you get to coal???🙄🙄
@m.nightshammertime1518
@m.nightshammertime1518 7 жыл бұрын
MrFang333333 Care to answer that for us Mr. Fang?
@KiwiPowerNZ
@KiwiPowerNZ 8 жыл бұрын
I believe the triple expansion engine is self starting there is no need to use the turning gear to rotate the engine. There are air pumps on the condenser which draw a large vacuum about 28-29 inches in mercury in vacuum. So even if the high pressure cylinder is suck at top/bottom dead centre the low pressure cylinder will still push because of the vacuum on the exhaust side. These engines also have levers to blast steam into the intermediate pressure or low pressure cylinder to 'kick' over the engine when starting. They don't need to be turned over with the turning gear to start them as far as I know. This is because in a ship the engine must start/stop and reverse practically instantly and they do, because when in a harbour you use the engines to steer the ship more than the rudder which is only effective at high speed. In a building with a stationary engine, you have all the time in the world to start the engine there is no impending collision that requires an instant start/stop reverse or what not.
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 8 жыл бұрын
+KiwiPowerNZ Thanks for the clear explanation!
@MrBugsier5
@MrBugsier5 8 жыл бұрын
+KiwiPowerNZ agree, but titanic hat not triples, but quadruple temd engines.. (simply sead 4 cilinders, double action)
@KiwiPowerNZ
@KiwiPowerNZ 8 жыл бұрын
Charlie K When the ship is laid up for work or some extended time you should occasionally turn the engines. A small engine that probably worked on that big gear could be run off one boiler to just turn it over a few times.
@jfisk60903
@jfisk60903 8 жыл бұрын
+KiwiPowerNZ The pony motors were also used for jacking the shaft to eliminate possible shaft imbalance while in port. I served in the USN on a 1200 pound steam frigate (Knox Class) and the prop shaft could never remain idle. it always rotated very slowly.
@KiwiPowerNZ
@KiwiPowerNZ 8 жыл бұрын
bama Fan Interesting thanks for the reply.
@mariebcfhs9491
@mariebcfhs9491 4 жыл бұрын
what I love about these engines is that they have an open frame with lots of moving parts visible
@korianjunakuvaaja7801
@korianjunakuvaaja7801 4 жыл бұрын
In the video?
@Harleylovinchelley1
@Harleylovinchelley1 5 жыл бұрын
The amazing thing is this was all created by draftsmen and engineers who only had basic tools to draw up the plans. No computers back then. They did have slide rules which could only be minimally helpful.
@scottpool4777
@scottpool4777 5 жыл бұрын
Complicated very very complicated titanic you’ll sell forever in my heart❤️
@paulmcginn2157
@paulmcginn2157 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video - have always wondered how these HUGE engines propelled the ship (i.e where the coal goes in, exhaust, reciprocation, etc, etc). thank you again !
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
There are 2 stroke not 4 joke stroke crap!
@kaymuldoon3575
@kaymuldoon3575 3 жыл бұрын
I agree about the spelling. It was an excellent video but I was distracted by all the spelling errors throughout. I understand spelling is not everyone’s strength but that’s the reason we have spellcheck. Lol Loved the audio, however, as it was very calming to me.
@gunsumwong3948
@gunsumwong3948 Жыл бұрын
Looking forwards to the future is better than cherishing the past failures!
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk Жыл бұрын
These are wise words! Exactly right.
@felixalonzo2847
@felixalonzo2847 4 жыл бұрын
It's crazy that it produces a rhythm.
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 4 жыл бұрын
No! Machines make music!
@s3200-t5j
@s3200-t5j 8 жыл бұрын
this tought me a lot about steam engine and how they work this video is very educational
@Iosis07
@Iosis07 7 жыл бұрын
And I thought steam engines were something simple. :) Thank you for animation and explanations.
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is complex.
@marlo8850
@marlo8850 7 жыл бұрын
The First ones were but this one
@rosegold-beats
@rosegold-beats 3 ай бұрын
The mind of an engineer is amazing
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 9 жыл бұрын
@ annanoli: 5:25 you can see how the engine is started. In that time the electric engines didn't have enough power, so they used a small steam engine, as shown. It is not only to bring them into a special position for maintenance, as you think, it is the spinning once to start the big engine.
@picobyte
@picobyte 8 жыл бұрын
+Charlie K Maybe it was because electric motors need some sort of engine and generator to get electricity.
@Brill39e
@Brill39e 8 жыл бұрын
+Hoe ishetmogelijk ..Steam Engines are self starting...they don't need a Jack Engine to get under way....
@KiwiPowerNZ
@KiwiPowerNZ 8 жыл бұрын
Single cylinder steam engines are not self starting.
@Brill39e
@Brill39e 8 жыл бұрын
+KiwiPowerNZ ..what about Single Cylinder Traction Engines..
@KiwiPowerNZ
@KiwiPowerNZ 8 жыл бұрын
Brill39e Well they can self start from the right crank position, engines with 2+ cylinders will self start from any position.
@bigbob1699
@bigbob1699 4 жыл бұрын
I loved in the movie when the bridge called for full reverse how the ships engineer jumped as he knew it had hit the fan .
@markk3652
@markk3652 8 жыл бұрын
so you're saying the Titanic had a v8, nice.. I liked the scenes in the movie of the engine room and all of the parts spinning around.
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 8 жыл бұрын
No, the Titanic had not a V8 engine. I've never claimed that! A V8 is 8 cylinders on one crankshaft. These are two triple expansion engines and I can't change that! Read also the reaction of KiriyaAoi
@justino.k.5647
@justino.k.5647 8 жыл бұрын
Titanic 7 has a V12
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk 8 жыл бұрын
Where I can find information about the Titanic 7?
@brucerogermorgan2388
@brucerogermorgan2388 6 жыл бұрын
No, no V8, two staight fours and a turbine.
@jamesclayton4378
@jamesclayton4378 6 жыл бұрын
yeah its a dual inline 4 cylinder double acting triple expansion engine with an integral turbine for maximum efficiency. It really was an effiecient way to power a ship this large for the time.
@TheWilliam0229
@TheWilliam0229 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos Man. Nice work. As a former "vaporiste" in the french navy, I remenber we had to learn all that stuff only with skeches and thermodynamic formulas.
@josephmueller335
@josephmueller335 5 жыл бұрын
I love the way every thing is explained it makes it so much easier to understand the Titanics engines
@hunterhalo2
@hunterhalo2 8 жыл бұрын
Had no idea how much of the ship, or the immense amount of fuel this engine took. Only 11 days endurance.
@heathbauerle2787
@heathbauerle2787 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. know with diesel electric, some ships can go over 14 days (at least of what I think it correct) without refueling.
@SyNRG
@SyNRG 5 жыл бұрын
@Andy Proper The Titanic used like ... I think more than 800 tonnes of coal per day, and had enough coal to sail for 8 days, I think much more than 30 tons... She sailed for only 3 days.
@charlesbosse6035
@charlesbosse6035 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sure takes slit of energy and man power to stoke those boilers.I don't know if I could keep up with those men stoking the fire. Maybe 30 years ago I could.
@Heliotail
@Heliotail 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the fuel oil would have had superior energy density compared to coal. Olympic was in fact converted to use fuel oil instead of coal long before her retirement and scrapping during the 1930's.
@visionist7
@visionist7 4 жыл бұрын
At 21 knots maximum speed 11 days gives over 5500nm of range. Not bad at all.
@Nickyvonboss
@Nickyvonboss 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of fuel used is staggering, THAT much coal taking an ample amount of space in the ship only lasted 11 days... I see now how far we've really come in technology and engines, diesel truly is marvelous in that regard, but it still doesn't contain the same romanticism as these engines do
@Edvard.Munchkin
@Edvard.Munchkin 4 жыл бұрын
And some day, we will probably even lose diesel 😭 nothing good lasts forever my dear friend. Let's enjoy what we have for however long we have it left. I'd truly love to keep diesel forever and bring back steam engines too. They sound absolutely beautiful, a true beating heart.
@yuribrandi8212
@yuribrandi8212 4 жыл бұрын
those really LARGE ships actually use "HFO" or heavy fuel oil ( It has the consistency of straight crude almost.).... and believe it or not are still " steam powered" to a degree
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
@@yuribrandi8212 Giant 2 strokes over 100000hp? them stema engiens were 2 stroke.
@jamesclayton4378
@jamesclayton4378 2 жыл бұрын
right i always found it so fascinating how crude coal driven steam technology was but realistically all fossil fuels are pretty ineffiecient! nuclear powered titanic for the win ( keep the reciprocating engines just power with nuclear haha
@huskkyy
@huskkyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Edvard.Munchkin "nothing good" burning diesel is terrible my guy, engineering is amazing but the fact that youre still burning an impure substance isnt great
@johnsmith-rs2vk
@johnsmith-rs2vk Жыл бұрын
A brilliant animation ! Thank you . And the background music and sound is amazing .
@golbalhelmut8442
@golbalhelmut8442 4 жыл бұрын
Anyway, the engines did a great job: pushing the vessel as hard as possible into the iceberg. 👍
@k-osmonaut8807
@k-osmonaut8807 3 жыл бұрын
bruh
@italianseacreature6985
@italianseacreature6985 3 жыл бұрын
They didn’t even hit it head on, even if they did the ship would’ve probably had a higher chance of survival
@Saltinator
@Saltinator 2 жыл бұрын
Titanic was running at nearly full steam the moment the iceberg was spotted meaning it gave them even less time to react and avoid the burg. Not to mention the rudder on the ship was too small for it's size making it slow to turn. There were so many variables at play and unfortunately it all went to shit for them.
@JoelHomieShow
@JoelHomieShow 5 жыл бұрын
its so sad that all this amazing work just went to the bottom of the sea and it also got snapped in two. we love titanic
@joelhomievlogs5831
@joelhomievlogs5831 5 жыл бұрын
Yep
@joelhomievlogs5831
@joelhomievlogs5831 5 жыл бұрын
Same with the Britannic
@korianjunakuvaaja7801
@korianjunakuvaaja7801 4 жыл бұрын
@@joelhomievlogs5831 Britannic was lost in WW1
@captwar
@captwar 8 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Thanks for making it.
@tincoffin
@tincoffin 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed - a great explanation.
@lotanowo
@lotanowo Жыл бұрын
What's funny to me is that nobody would care half as much about the inner machinations of this behemoth if it didn't sink in such a dramatic way. Funny how legends are made.
@Hoeishetmogelijk
@Hoeishetmogelijk Жыл бұрын
There are countless ships, especially from that time, that were much more interesting. She used a lot of outdated technology for the Titanic, but it was not used just to be sure. The quality of the steel and the rivets were also unsatisfactory. Maybe because a lot of rich people died at the same time? When a boat with 700 refugees sinks in the Mediterranean, there is hardly any response. When an experimental submarine with 5 very rich people implodes on the way to the Titanic, the newspapers are full. Funny, isn't it?
@lotanowo
@lotanowo Жыл бұрын
@@Hoeishetmogelijk I think it's because the submarine situation is so unusual, and captures the imagination of the horror that it creates. As horrific and tragic as it is, refugees sinking is something that happens all the time and it doesn't grasp our attention the same way. It's the reason why we don't hear about every car accident that happens, but do hear about a plane crash. And yes, I suppose them being very rich does have something to do with it, as much as we don't want to admit it, these kinds of rich people do make the world go around in many ways, so their deaths can have visible effects on certain aspects of some societies.
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