Broken Arrow - Open Beta Soon!

[@wingman4668]

"okay guys so this is how you pla-" Stealth in minute 1: "PUSHING THE OBJECTIVE WITH AN Il-76 AIRDROP"

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Bit aggressive

[@damiangaming5696]

we all know the planning portion isnt getting used for plans lmao

[@Stealth17Gaming]

You mean people use the drawing for more artsy projects? XD

[@micuu1]

@@Stealth17Gaming that's not how you spell 'dicks'

[@tubby_vermin]

Apendige art ftw!

[@mechrocancer9319]

I'm drawing a dick

[@TRPilot06YT]

As an NSFW artist im going to have so much fun

[@rjohn769]

Broken arrow actually looks extremely interesting. Can't wait to get my hands on it.

[@farinelli1991]

the gameplay is really top notch, it keeps you in combat and if you notice how zones work, you dont have capture and sit in them like warno, you can flank and take your time to prepare very cool assaults. I cant explain how fun it is.

[@Baerzilla]

It kinda looks very much like warno though. Is there a story to that? Wargame devs split up and are making both games or what?

[@farinelli1991]

@Baerzilla Yes, FLX was one of the devs fro the wargame series and left after wargame red dragon was completed. They play very different, you will see on Wednesday when the demo comes out!

[@jimmothy3012]

Dunno if this is already planned but I think having a feature where rescuing downed aircrews gives you a discount on spawning air in would be good

[@chriskerwin3904]

it does, you can evac pilots

[@jimmothy3012]

@@chriskerwin3904 damn that's neat

[@Boss_Man1371]

It gives you the money back like you successfully evacuated the plane

[@MultiMetalGaming]

It does not give you the full amount of points, since you lost the plane.@@Boss_Man1371

[@Kesen2003]

@@Boss_Man1371it’s only a portion, not the whole refund. But considering how expensive most planes are, it is good to get any of it back

[@sayjack1328]

used to play Wargame with ya way back, look forward to running Broken Arrow maybe in the future

[@farinelli1991]

You should definitely give it a try when it comes out, Been playing wargame since European escalation. Broken Arrow really is a breath of fresh air to this genre.

[@NoiceGuy]

GG man, I've played hundreds of games already so that wasn't really fair. It's unit and map knowledge stuff while Bolt and I have been playing these kinds of games together for 10 years. You got me on discord I'm down to chat whenever man :)

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Thanks! You gave me a really tough fight. I'll up my game and maybe we can have a rematch.

[@matchesburn]

@@Stealth17Gaming I enjoyed watching your WG:RD videos, so I hope you jump into Broken Arrow.

[@Stealth17Gaming]

@@matchesburn Very much planning on it

[@BrotherMunro]

I look forward to completely sucking at this game but having a ton of fun regardless

[@Throki]

The combat sounds in this game really do sound awesome.

[@mrmunchkin2181]

I believe you can double tap U to unload instantly. I had to do that a lot with IFVs.

[@MagpieMew]

You can

[@celladoor_uk]

I can't wait to get my hands on this.

[@TheDIRTBIKER10]

I'm glad WARNO finally has some competition. WARNO's 2 year long EA that was only supposed to be 6 months until full release is getting so stale. From "weekly updates" that have been removing content rather than adding, I am looking forward to this game very much so

[@farinelli1991]

Sadly i feel the same way. Theyre ruining my 3rd armored and 39th guards... and still no army general

[@andrasbeke3012]

Why so little arty? If their trophy Abrams can comfortably deal with 2-3 of your tanks, drop a Nona shell on it

[@chancellordavid7332]

the matchup was less than stellar to be honest, but it's nice to see that you generally still enjoyed the game; hopefully next time it's more fair!

[@MrHeavy466]

But will it have chat like wargame?

[@jean-bastienjoly5962]

"RU best, UK bad" "You didn't eeven got it rigth f***t" "N****" "No i'm not defending german technical superiority, i'm just stating the f***ing ovbious."

[@jean-bastienjoly5962]

(aw, 'cmon youtube, it was funny. now i gotta edit it...) "RU best, UK bad" "You didn't eeven got it rigth, you imbecile" "N W O R D" "No i'm not defending german technical superiority, i'm just stating the karkin ovbious."

[@tohafi]

Love the FoW. It was always weird to me to see too much of the enemies' movements...

[@Phantom1188_]

I play plenty of RTS games but I haven’t ever played anything like this. I’m very excited for the open beta and I think I’m going to be dealing with a very steep learning curve to start but I hope the game releases shortly after the open beta.

[@farinelli1991]

The learning curve is worth it and we will help you. And if your used to doing some m icro with unitsm, the learning curve isnt that bad

[@krzysztofrudowicz5985]

"(...) the feedback is not good" A creator. Admitting things are not as they should be. Wtf!? A positive one! Hope they bring it up to their own standards, then the game blows up and then...

[@rightfeelI]

I enjoyed it a lot would you consider playing this war-game genre a bit more Stealth?

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Yes. Planning on covering it a lot

[@Enderdrago1522]

You should try “Call To Arms: Gates Of Hell Ostfront.”

[@jmarino715]

I love how you paused to basically say... "just look at it" 🤣

[@ARescueToaster]

Awesome! Been really looking forward to this! It's going to be really busy with all of these great looking games coming out soon

[@themacker894]

Love to see the betas. Thanks!

[@NickyDekker89]

Can't wait to try it out in the open beta. Even though I'm probably going to get hammered.

[@Stealth17Gaming]

I got hammered, doesn't make the game any less fun :)

[@CVGamingLab]

Dope!!! I've watched from Bolt's point of view and DevilDog's POV. This is going to be cool to watch it from the other side this time💪🏿💪🏿!!!

[@SaberBrosontop]

I will definitely be watching Vulcans videos aswell, this gonna get hectic

[@Joachim133793]

Is deck builder included in beta? Are you using your own deck in this video?

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Yes and yes

[@Paveway-chan]

47:45 If you allow me to backseat game a little bit with this question, I'd say you didn't use enough infantry. You fought the M1A2 SEP push with just T-80UMs in a forested environment

[@Stealth17Gaming]

True. Bad call. Should have tried infantry ambushes

[@RMMinc]

Like all the cool toys and features. Interface feels a little too busy and hard to understand who shoots who.

[@karrackhalcyon8826]

I can't wait for this game, it's like wargame, but with all the features I've wanted

[@emergcon]

Watched 2 Videos from the other side and was Like: what the hell is going on? Your Video with your and the devs commentary gave me way more insight on what the game is about, As a world in conflict Fan I Hope that the single Player focuses more on small unit tactics and their abilities.

[@Stealth17Gaming]

The other side has already played the game extensively and doesn't need to explain the mechanics to each other.

[@emergcon]

@@Stealth17Gaming Yeah. Thought so. As I said, I liked your side better. I realy hope that there is a strong singleplayer with small unit tactics where you have to use the abilities of your units. similar to world in conflict. what I have seen from the multiplayer looks like you re always zoomed out and only commanding unit tags on the field.

[@pavleh4602]

I hope there will be an campaign for this game for people who dislike the multi-player part

[@Stealth17Gaming]

It will have scenarios

[@jmarino715]

Game looks great - literally everything I wish Wargame had. Only thing I'm concerned about is the price. Considering that this is a very niche genre, they really should consider making at least the multiplayer aspect free to play. Otherwise, I can all but guarantee that it will not see enough sustained growth to support a healthy matchmaking environment.

[@Fyrax6]

is this the highest quality setting ?

[@tactic_soldier1801]

Hi! I am a part of the open beta and I would like to report a bug but I cannot find a way to send it to the developers please tell me a way to contactct them.

[@Heinz-gv8rm]

I think the game is really good, looking forward to get it!

[@marcell9333]

I hope will be there a skirmish mode in single player

[@argun4149]

Наконец всеь мир услышит Фантома! Как в афгане!1!

[@brooksf-l7619]

Interesting to same this game from both sides!

[@glebovskimalcovich207]

Would units you command have some AI to lees micromanagement?

[@matchesburn]

Just a heads up: The Open Beta will be *_multiplayer only._* Absolutely no single player, no skirmish, nothing with AI.

[@kerlowsc3397]

Any idea on when ?

[@revere0311]

loved the demo, cant wait to play the game.

[@marcusjarlinius8550]

Game looks great but what makes it stand out from a game like warno or wargame series?

[@Stealth17Gaming]

It's more like World in Conflict. Units come back to the deck when dead but only after a while. It also has way more customization than Warno or Wargame

[@stablegun314]

The armata not actually existing is such a meme

[@heelvy9294]

And why is it non-existent? It has already been seen even in Ukraine

[@stablegun314]

@@heelvy9294 It hasn’t.

[@georgy1858]

@@stablegun314 The tank was firing at the enemy from a prepared position near the line of contact to test its main gun, but not much beyond that. So it does exist, in the numbers of 20 to 30 vehicles, and is being actively refined taking into account the experience of the current conflict. Probably won't go into mass production for at least another 2 or 3 years, and its price doesn't help that either. There are only a handful of games that feature the T-14, and personally, I'm very excited to see it in a proper strategy game.

[@stablegun314]

@@georgy1858 As per claims by the russian government. Until I see verifiable evidence I am disinclined to believe them.

[@hitman_zulu]

there are allot of concepts for both sides slated for full release

[@michaelcampbell2650]

Do you know if they will add other countries as in UK?

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Yes I believe they've confirmed they're going to add new countries later.

[@michaelcampbell2650]

@@Stealth17Gaming thanks for the reply

[@supermonkeywtf09]

They really need to hire a UI designer, it's atrocious and not very functional either.... Other than that things look great!

[@eron3067]

What do you dislike in specific? I think the UI designer is doing a good job. Edit: This is not the final UI, but your feedback could help.

[@smiley.6534]

The mini-map is too small and very unclear, some icons are too big and some are too small (the icons on the bottom right really need some sorting), the "ping" icons don't show what they are supposed to be, the UI showing unit visibility is a bit unclear, the unit selection menu could maybe be improved with icons instead of 3 letter abbreviations, top right menu shouldn't be visible when playing IMO except for the chat button. Also I don't know if this already is a feature but when loading in show a version of the map that depicts the terrain elevations. @@eron3067

[@supermonkeywtf09]

The main things to me were: The UI takes up too much space without communicating more information, Iis also hard to see due to a lack of contrast on the white text and transparent background. Many of the icons are different resolutions and styles from one another, and are quite complex and make it hard to discern what is going on in them at a glance with a very busy interface. Key aspects are missing too, like the unit card (why they took it away is strange, but they did say it is coming back) and unit loss notifications. Whilst the aircraft call in is a massive square with a bunch of unnecessary elements on it showing some sort of hardly visible altitude and speed bar that I don't think is even functional. The minimap also has not differentiation between units, a bunch of equal sized but large square makes it difficult at a glance to see what is happening. Also the team colouring is very similar, lots of shades of green. If there are 5 players max then using a colour picker to get easily discernable colours per player should be manageable. I think it is best seen when you look at other UIs in similar games (World in Conflict, Wargame/SteelDivison/Ruse/Warno, Joint Task Force, Men of War). The battlefield is super busy visually, and having large transparent UI blocks with low contrast makes it hard to read. The black background and shading just cuts off in sharp edges sometimes and fades out in others which makes it seem half baked. If they consolidated the spacing, added significantly more contrast by making the background even darker and adding shading to differentiate between buttons and text then that would be a step in the right direction. But the whole thing screams of a software engineer putting together a functional UI rather than getting someone to sit down, draft and iterate an interface from design principles around legibility and readability. I am hoping this will change by the time they release to the market, as I imagine they are very busy on the systems and optimisation. But developing a user interface can be just as time consuming and if done poorly can really take away from the experience. @@eron3067

[@batteredskullsummit9854]

The maps seem way too dense. It looks like even in the most open areas you can only see like 200m before a tree or building

[@chrisyotas5854]

TFTV! Interesting battle, the initial push helped secure more ground but overextension really hindered you. Especially those 3-4 units dying at the start. Edit: further along the video, the Air also seems to have been a decisive factor in your failing to hold. You kept getting bombed wherever you held up for too long.

[@blydchyld]

So why no notice from youtube that you posted this? Yeah m subbed. Anyway made an audible gasp when i came across this video, this game has serious WIC vibes and i miss that.

[@jakecurry7367]

Why did a helicopter survive being singled out by a Hornet?

[@kineuhansen8629]

i wonder if there are any plans to add other nato units in the future man i cant waith to play the game

[@antilarge7860]

Don't worry, Every wargame always makes Russian/China equipment better than they ever could hope to be in reality

[@pl-AEtheRR]

​@@antilarge7860 This game _is_ Russian-made so you've got to wonder what people expected.

[@antilarge7860]

Russian made? Do you have proof of this? @@pl-AEtheRR

[@ser43_OLDC]

@@antilarge7860are you coping already?

[@ser43_OLDC]

yes, this is just the beta

[@RayHardman7567]

It'd be amazing if you could control a modern destroyer off the coast and target enemy positions at the start or during the match.

[@samuelemarchionni7870]

In the singleplayer demo there was a destroyer with tomahawks i think that you could shoot

[@RayHardman7567]

@@samuelemarchionni7870 still there? Or did they remove it?

[@samuelemarchionni7870]

@@RayHardman7567 That was a closed beta to try. Probably Will be avaible when the game comes out with single player scenarios

[@RayHardman7567]

@@samuelemarchionni7870 ah. Ok then.

[@TheJayKS]

enjoy the video.. since you said something about game is alway played afar from to the point you might just showing Tags.. ever think of staging a battle with other content creators so you could do zoomed in moments?

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Yes or use the replay when it's implemented

[@Spartan536]

Regarding turning your RADAR off to combat SEAD... if the game allows for it, I will be doing what I do in DCS... doing DEAD (Destruction of Enemy Air Defense) where I slap on a bunch of AGM-88H/K SLAM-ER's to take out your SAM sites and RADAR's. They don't care about you turning your RADAR off, they use GPS and Inertial guidance to fly to the target, then they have 2 options, MIL (Man In The Loop) where it's manually guided via Datalink, or AI assisted targeting using onboard guidance profiles based on target information during the snapshots in flight.

[@peterzhang4908]

It seems that you were in a duel with KZbinr Saucy.

[@Stealth17Gaming]

And Noiceguy Nolan

[@cornellmans6362]

This game looks good!

[@Samonie67]

im not a big fan of RTS and wargames but this game has such cool and interesting details and gameplay features that i would like to give it a try not sure this is the best game to get into the RTS genre but i don't care lol

[@criss26565]

I think this game is basically is a little bit of both, right in the middle of both genres. Doesn’t have the RTS resource management, but the scale if much greater the normal rts. It’s great!!!!

[@Coffeepanda294]

Finally it's out and servers seem to be completely overloaded, lol. Guess I'll have to wait a while before I can hop in. Oh well, it's worth waiting for, I'm sure

[@jmarino715]

Whoever the dude was that kept saying "East" and didn't know that it was actually "North"... 🤪

[@masonxarchive]

lets see if this can get me off wargame

[@epl803]

How do we apply for the open beta, if that's even possible?

[@raptorred9186]

It’s free, comes out on the 31st and is available into late February

[@lareka11]

world in conflict in 2024!!!!! omg yesssss

[@montanabigbeer650]

Any one have any other realease date then 2024?

[@Stealth17Gaming]

I asked yesterday. "When it's ready". I like that they're not rushing it out the door, even if it means we have to wait a little bit longer.

[@blitz-war]

Nice good content!

[@jasoncole4706]

First! Love your content man!

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Thanks! :)

[@madrooky1398]

The map looks really cool. But I am not a fan of the GUI. Way too big symbols and the transparency of the UI elements is a pain to my eyes. I am getting old, I need compact symbolism that is easy to distinct while leaving enough to see from the action. And for example the transparent mini map is terrible. I hope these things are optional.

[@Conman51US]

Gameplay pace looks a little fast, infantry die really quickly against Abrams.

[@cozmodog2080]

no cause every time i zoom in a see the vehicle drive through that fence and just makes me not want to buy the game and i dont think i will

[@Oggylv1]

I don´t know guys. Warno looks much better.

[@Spookie425]

To me it looks like you guys were missing the basics. You all took fighters at start and had no presence on the battlefield, the enemy was able to gain substantial ground while your fighters were burning holes in the sky. Another thing is a serious lack of reconnaissance, you must be able to see the enemy before you can kill it. I also think that with all the fighters up you guys should have gone ahead with the paratrooper drop since you had the maximum amount of fighter escort. Beyond this, I think Russia taking laser bombers to deal with the M1A2's are going to be a must, they are a serious threat and need to be treated as such. Also, aggressive use of non radar AA close to the front line might be the way to counter allied air superiority. Keep at it, I enjoyed what I saw!

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Well yeah, most of us hadn't played the game at all. We were trying to figure out what was going on with game mechanics, controls, units, enemy moves, everything. Very different from when you're just watching. We made a ton of mistakes and learned from them. Thanks for your tips.

[@Yossariannn]

0 environmental interference, even trees are not damaged

[@aleksandertochilkin9022]

this is only in this build version, at the moment only buildings are destroyed, but in the current build of the developers "burning/damage" of forests and bushes is already implemented, it works depending on the radius of projectile impact

[@Yossariannn]

@@aleksandertochilkin9022 good news then

[@Contentrist]

The income system feels/looks unfair. So it snowballs to the point that one team with good K:D will at one point be unstoppable. Also it feels like it could be abused by leaving one player with 0 units collecting points on high income to deploy all units after the float is big enough.

[@heelvy9294]

Even if you then deploy all the units, you won't be able to control the microcontrol and therefore lose all your units, so it's not an option, don't be afraid, I've already tried😂

[@Contentrist]

@@heelvy9294 Microcontrol don't matter much if the goal of the units is to be a doom train going down the middle road, much worse if the units are designed specifically to be part of that convoy. Edit: won't scare me from going back into the Beta and buying the game though. It has much potential.

[@heelvy9294]

@@Contentrist Well, even in 2 players we tried to arrange such hellish trains along the main street, it is very easy to counter if the enemy has correctly located units and has a reserve of points for a counterattack with aviation, for example,

[@Contentrist]

@@heelvy9294 That's a big IF. I personally had a quit moment when one of these trains took our point by driving through 3 of my inf squads(that were positioned next to the road), 2 tanks, 1 57mm AA and 2 helos on top of the equipment of my teammates. Granted I am a noob in Broken Arrow ( and a strategy gamer in general) but for noobier players than me that quit moment can equal a game refund. That gets me into the fact that the majority strategy game tutorials give the genre no justice, expecting the player to know control groups and queue commands by the mere fact that the game was bought but that's a different rant. One I'm hoping a new strategy game (like broken arrow) will solve.

[@heelvy9294]

well, that's why it's a wargame, to take into account your mistakes, study tactics and not give up after the first loss, I'm also a noob, I also lose a lot because this is not my genre of games, but nevertheless it's interesting, but like all other wargames, the game of course has its target audience and unfortunately not many people like wargames now, so the game will not have a super huge online hundreds of thousands of people anyway@@Contentrist

[@unclebuck4er467]

Game itself looks like it would be fun but it is just not interesting viewing.

[@pl-AEtheRR]

I would imagine a replay feature where we could easily track both sides' manoeuvres and jump around the timelines to major events would be more fun to watch. Or a game by someone who actually knows how to play. Like this, a middling engagement with monotone commentary in an already slow-paced, obviously unbalanced game surely would be less than stellar viewing material.

[@skirtedegg]

Finally bruh

[@shockwavecity]

Seems like the unit balance is way off.

[@kristiankristensen6563]

Isint this just like wargame red dragon?

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Somewhat. It's a mix of Wargame and World in Conflict.

[@ireallycant4416]

Stealth is in a hard cope ngl

[@Alex__S]

The game lacks balance it seems. I see T-80's pop like a tin can from RPG's and M1's just sitting there, taking it to the face and laugh it off as if it were nothing. Same goes to T-80 v LAV. Nah, not buying into this game yet, not by a long shot.

[@toma3025]

That way my initial thoughts, but it seems that greater experience and team cohesion was probably the bigger factor in the outcome here. Apparently they'll be showing another match today, where they mixed up the teams for better balance.

[@Alex__S]

@@toma3025 thank you. Mixed up how: mixed nations or better mix of experienced v less experienced players? In case of former, that to me is still lacking balance on a nation basis. In case of the latter, would be good to understand how an experienced player can influence the units being one shot killed v surviving hell.

[@Phantom1188_]

Apparently you can also build out your units how you want so it’s possible those units were built out to be cheap and large quantities

[@toma3025]

@@Alex__S Mix of experienced and less experienced players - i.e they shuffled the teams. This was said on Saucy's channel - still not seen it uploaded yet though, unfortunately 😕

[@Alex__S]

@@toma3025 thank you! I really am curious as to how experience in the game results in units being one shot v no scratch at all.

[@Jakaj99]

Funny to see russian wunderwaffes ie Armata, Su-57, some ifvs or apcs. Are there some US prototype units? Give US deck AbramsX then :D

[@georgy1858]

AbramsX barely exists as a concept demonstrator, lol. At least the so called 'wunderwaffes' are actually driving irl.

[@voiinstrilets]

M10 Booker is in the game despite it being in the trial phase, much like the Armata. the SU-57 is actively used already.

[@Zacho5]

They got the Comanche.

[@antilarge7860]

I just want a wargame where Russian equipment does not have superpowers

[@pl-AEtheRR]

You'll probably need to wait until a non-Russian team makes it. These guys are clearly way into the "unbiased" Russian pespective judging by their Twitter in the beginning of the Ukraine invasion.

[@mrsupremegascon]

If that was realistic, it would not be funny.

[@Jakaj99]

Do you really think russian developers will not give themselves superpowers? Half of russian units are non existent wunderwaffes, and I didn't saw a single US prototype, hilarious

[@pl-AEtheRR]

@@Jakaj99 Funny. My reply saying it's because the devs are Russian got deleted. Let's see if yours is, too.

[@Jakaj99]

@@pl-AEtheRR youtube is crazy lately, I also have comments deleted constantly without a reason

[@haakonsteinsvaag]

These are fantasy Russian forces. The devs should incorporate the piss poor state of Russian military. Also, there should be more drones.

[@samuelemarchionni7870]

Its not ukraine Russia war simulator

[@toma3025]

Make your own NATO circlejerk simulator if that's what does it for you. You can include the transgender divisions with the purple haired feminist soldiers that way. Meanwhile, the rest of us will enjoy playing this *game*

[@haakonsteinsvaag]

@@samuelemarchionni7870No, its an even worse simulation from the Russian point of view. It is Russia vs NATO/US. The game is trying to be realistic, and the actual state of the forces should be represented in the game. This is a Russian propaganda army with all the bells and whistles working, no corruption, bad morale, faulty equipment or bad tactics. In other words a fantasy army.

[@samuelemarchionni7870]

@@haakonsteinsvaag If they made It THAT realistic why should people even play Russia?

[@georgy1858]

​@@haakonsteinsvaag Your arguments are typical of the US couch gerenal. Where the fuck do you even get all this bs about their military from? And do you really think that if the other side would be as weak as you claim it is, it will be fun and interesting to play for or against them in the game? It won't be a fun strategy game, instead it's going to be yet another US military sim that the market has abundance of, with piss-poor balance favoring the merica. It won't be fun.