Broken Trace Repair Hacks Every Beginner Should Know - Sega Master System - Retro Restoration

Following the format of my previous "behind the scenes" video, this week I bring you guys along for a Sega Master System repair. Another jewel purchased "not working" from eBay, and put my soldering skills to the test.
In keeping true with the "behind the scenes" format, his video is unscripted and minimally edited. I hope to continue to set better expectations for folks thinking of taking on repairs like these, and share some tips and practices that I have found to be useful.
In this particular video, I repair a bunch of broken traces using nothing but individual strands from stranded wire. I also use regular nail polish as a poor-man's version of solder resist. Both these "hacks" do a fantastic job in replacing conventional materials for such a job such as kynar wire and solder mask.
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[@InMyHead]

Awesome repair. You have the patience of a saint. Your soldering has gotten so much better since you started. I can really see the confidence you have now as you develop that muscle memory. Great job. It always feels good to fix something!

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thanks man. I can definitely see my skills have improved, especially when I revisit my earlier projects. It's pretty funny to see the difference. Thanks for the continued support!

[@tonyfishlock7240]

You said it so well very impressed 👍

[@fenriswolfretro6729]

Ah yes, gotta love the sight of broken traces from mechanical fatigue! In all seriousness, I can see this problem being both time consuming and annoying to deal with. So well done!

[@BorderlineOCD]

You’re up watching KZbin awfully early my West Coast friend :P Thanks for the comment bud, much appreciated.

[@fenriswolfretro6729]

@@BorderlineOCD had to go to work early, that's why ;P

[@charlieretro]

I got a sega genesis that sadly will never be fixed it’s traces are gone, motherboard was cracked with jumper wires and left outside to rust sadly.

[@fenriswolfretro6729]

@@charlieretro the chipset might still be good, for units with dead ICs.

[@Marin3r101]

It seems like this was actually due to improper installation of the cartridge port.. they didn't fully seat it and the force of pushing in the cartridge was subjected to the PINs only, when it should have been fully mounted to the mainboard...

[@TwinOpinion]

I've never seen a repair job quite like this. Patience wins the day! Glad that system didn't end up in a garbage dump. Great work.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@ewrooney]

I sent you an email a while back thanking you for spreading knowledge like this. Its far more inspiring and far more helpful to have that dialog during the video and than videos where it’s just 3x speed with no guidance. It’s cool if that what someone likes but that’s just “repair porn” to me. You fucking rock man, and thanks again for the content.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Wow thanks for the kind words man, I appreciate it and it's viewers like you that make sharing this hobby worthwhile. I enjoy all sorts of repair and restoration content myself and there are many great creators out there, each with their own style. I think my repair journey resonates with some viewers more than others because I had no idea what I was doing when I started and slowly improved with each repair. Folks that are beginners or on the fence about taking up this hobby can relate to someone who started out a similar way (compared to someone that does this for a living). In any case, glad you enjoy the content this much and thank you again for the support.

[@emmettturner9452]

Pretty sure the factory soldered the cartridge connector when it wasn’t fully inserted through the through holes. This meant there was a gap between the connector housing and the top of the PCB. Inserting a game would push the connector down, stressing the solder connections and traces until they finally gave. Suddenly the gap was gone, but the traces were ruined. :(

[@Kawa-oneechan]

Horrifying.

[@jonmayer]

Yes, this is definitely wear from the cart being pushed in and having a gap to the board.

[@BorderlineOCD]

I think this is the most credible theory given the otherwise mint condition of the rest of the board (and shell).

[@EvilAng3la]

That was my thought immediately. The only question I had after this is - was the connector fully through after the repair? I'd be worried about the potential for a repeat of this issue in the future.

[@gblargg]

@@EvilAng3la My thought as well. At least he added thin wires, which can take some bending. Just soldering across cracked traces is really weak (based on my experience).

[@Lookoutmedia353]

Watching you repair those traces was like art. Talk about impressive work.

[@andreschiriff4354]

This is the most work extensive repair I have seen you do I am very impressed with your patience. And I'm shocked that this happened to this Master system they are very good consoles that last for a very long time I'm pretty sure somebody drop it a few times

[@BorderlineOCD]

I appreciate it bud. My soldering has come quite some way over the past couple of years and repairs like this feel more approachable. Most importantly I am enjoying it more than ever.

[@superchiaki]

at least not the cheaper small version, all of mine are dead with a short somewhere.

[@FixerUK]

I literally said "that brings back memories" seconds before you said exactly the same. As I remember Bubble Bobble on the Master System was one of the better conversions due to all the extra levels. Oh the amount of hours and late nights doing two player and trying to find all the secrets in it was probably the most me and my wife ever put into one game together. I even made my own controller for it from an old speaker enclosure and parts from an old broken Jump Bug cocktail arcade machine.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Nostalgia is what really drives this hobby. I understand your sentiments completely.

[@alphadwuzzle1026]

wonderboy and california games takes me waaaay back. I was 3 when the master system came out haha

[@eddietowers5595]

This is what I was looking for. This is the best clean lined trace repairs I’ve seen, yet. Here on KZbin.

[@snowman5020]

Great job, great to see a lovely old Master System saved. This was my first console, it has a lot of great RPG's, arcade conversions, and Alex Kidd of course.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Yes indeed, happy to have got it working! I do enjoy the library of SMS games even as an adult on emulation. Part of that is nostalgia with the few games I owned but its fun to discover all the games I wasn't aware of too.

[@armanclark2401]

@@BorderlineOCD same this was my first system loved wonder boy 3!

[@shezzor]

"I know the Master System wasn't a very popular system", I think you need to caveat that with "in the US" as it was very popular in the EU and Brazil :) That said, excellent job on the repair. Great to see another classic console live on!

[@douro20]

Wasn't the SG-1000 also sold in Brazil? I could imagine the difficulty of getting an import licence for such a thing, considering how much Brazil was against importing any durable goods back then.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Your British and European brethren have made that clear to me haha. Noted.

[@ChrisP872]

I'm one of the Americans that had a Sega Master System. Later on I also got the NES. This was when Game Rentals were really starting to take off. After the Genesis and the SNES came out the rental stores sold the older games at low prices. I picked up some good NES games that way.

[@captaincorleone7088]

That statement surprised me too. It did very well in the UK. Brilliant video btw, impressive work - I've subscribed. :)

[@exidy-yt]

Nice work! I was wondering what on earth the previous owner had done to the machine to break all those traces, but someone very nicely explained what probably happened due to a factory error that broke over time. It was great to see you doing that extensive patch-wire work, hopefully I learned something for the future. Thank you for sharing!

[@ShadowManceri]

Each time you insert and remove the cartridge, those pins will move a little bit. Over time the mechanical stress will break them, no matter how careful you are with it.

[@amyorramonperalta5428]

The precision with which you soldered those jumper wires was like watching a surgeon. I am in awe! Fantastic work!

[@davidbrosky8079]

This was a terrific tutorial. A great learning experience having worked with repairing traces before. You are very thorough, logical and organized. Honestly I was cheering you on every step of the way and thrilled that it worked! Superb video and congrats!

[@jcchaconjr]

Wow, that must have been tedious! I happen to have a Master System in my possession that has this same symptom. I never got around to diagnosing it, but I have a feeling that you may have just done it for me, hehe. Looking at the tear down, this may also explain why Genesis consoles have a small plastic brace underneath the cart slot and held by the cartridge screws. I’m gonna guess that over time, the pressure of inserting cartridges flexed the board and damaged the traces over time. Looks like Sega may have been aware of this and learned from their mistake for the Genesis. Great video man!

[@BorderlineOCD]

Glad you enjoyed it. Hope you repair your SMS as well :)

[@MetalGateDragon]

God, I love how there are people like you that take the time to repair all these consoles. You're doing an awesome job. Loved the video.

[@myztklk3v]

this was the first system we ever owned and man this brought me back.

[@ETD81]

I had a master system plus when I was a kid and loved it dearly. I believe it's still in its box at my mother's house. I spent more hours than I can count playing games like moonwalker, ghost busters, galaxy force and safari hunt (to name a few of my favourites). Awesome to see a classic console resurrected and thanks for bringing back some very distant memories

[@claimhsolais3466]

It's so nice to see a gentleman doing repairs, by maintaining an outstanding mix of proper humor with proper language and arguments. Congratulations!

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thank you kind sir.

[@ianicus123]

It's always so satisfying to fix something given up for dead, well done.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Agree completely, thanks for watching.

[@bee2377]

That intro the second you power on.. epic!

[@andykelly7321]

I have no idea why I'm watching this, I have zero interest in any of this yet here I am mesmerized by it. I envy your patience.

[@jeffg9058]

I watch so many videos like this, I constantly think I could do that, it's easy! While I could do it I know it's not easy and I'd probably spend more time trying to make it look perfect only to make it look worse lol. Great job, I really need to get into more work like this to get my skills up where my mind likes to think they are.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Haha, if you enjoy it keep at it. I'm no expert, could barely swap a component out a couple of years ago. But its a hobby I enjoy so I continue to improve with each repair.

[@determinedspirit5785]

First time I slow down a video just to see how you work on that pins and mother board, this channel is going to be a great one to follow.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Welcome aboard!

[@harrysboy]

I love the Master System so much! Really enjoy your videos too, some of the most honest repair videos on KZbin, and that's what makes them so fun to watch.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Great to see another master system fan and appreciate your comments about the channel. Cheers!

[@diaboloavocado]

That amount of traces to repair is a real pain in the rear, so it must have been very rewarding to have the work pay off. I do like that bent tip on the iron too. Good job, mate.

[@angusmclaren6257]

Great job saving that system. I had an MS and MS2, they were great systems. I have fond memories of playing Alex Kidd in Miracle world on the MS2.

[@jojoagogo]

I absolutely LOVE board repair jobs, although this particular repair looked like a real pain. Great job on it and great videos. I use your vids to help teach my son board repairs. Thanks for the content!

[@ziyadkutbi7767]

I’m not into all that computer/electrical engineering stuff but you not only captured my attention, you made me wanna cheer for you. I was fistbumping the air when the game worked. Good job, subbed.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Haha glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the sub.

[@anonony9081]

First try is the best feeling ever. That's what you get for having a well planned approach to the job

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thank you, cheers.

[@nickstubbings]

Thank God you addressed the fingerprints at the end. nice work!

[@RestoreTechnique]

Great work 👏 The Sega Master System 2 was my first console. Hang On brings back memories.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Glad you enjoyed it and I'm enjoying chatting with folks whom share the nostalgia of owning the SMS.

[@hiredgun7186]

man , i always thought myself good with a soldering iron , but cripes your solder skills are out of this world , hats off to you

[@huldu]

What I really like about these older consoles is they built them like tanks so kids could play with them and they'd last. The master system was quite popular here in Europe. Many of us kids had one. A couple of friends had a nintendo, we got one after the success/fun factor of the master system. Loved both the systems.

[@micahj9828]

I had to watch it twice. Did this dude just manually print a section of circuit board? I think he did. My soldering kung-fu is weak. Good job man.

[@madcat4563]

Thanks to the KZbin algorithm, I have discovered a new to me repair channel. Subscribed.

[@DigitalConfusion]

Considering you don't show any emotions, when that game booted that must have been pretty darn satisfying :) Great work sir.

[@mr2000jp]

that was amazing , i didnt think you would continue with the repair , when you noticed a lot of broken traces ,

[@boboscar99]

I had this console as a kid and everyone else got the nintendo lol, very cool to see one brought back to life and quite impressive skills to do it.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thanks very much!

[@sadasulna6056]

Super Job. I don't have a steady enough hand for this kind of fine work, especially that much of it. Bravo.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thank you very much!

[@lukedougan7908]

You’re a magician ,Great job on a great system I really appreciate seeing one of my favorite systems being brought back to life.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed the project. Great to meet all the SMS fans.

[@ChadDoebelin]

Thank you for documenting this process so well. I'm waiting on parts for a battery bombed amiga. Fantastic job. Hats off to you.

[@jdsgotninelives]

That game brings back memories. I was broke so had to hire a Sega console from the video store. This game was/is addictive. Great repair and soldering skills. Classic! Thanks 😉

[@AMR-bf8nx]

Incredible. If you know how to repair old consoles you have a superpower nowadays...

[@BorderlineOCD]

I would love to think so :P But I think issues like torn traces are somewhat common in electronics repair.

[@thegreatjonzini]

Love the model 1 master system. Here in the UK the master system was very popular. A lot of my friends had them. I had the master system adapter for the game gear. Games were so much cheaper than megadrive and nes. Great time to be a gamer especially the 2nd hand market due to its popularity . Well done on your hard work. 🥂

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thanks for sharing. I didn't know there was an adapter for the Game Gear, thats ridiculous! But now that I think about it, the Game Gear was a miniaturized Master System after all. It was probably a simple size adapter rather than something more complicated. Very cool.

[@SkyfighterZX]

Feels like someone pushed a cartridge in too hard, what a amazing job you did, another system saved and it's amazing!

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thank you!

[@XmasTablet]

Mad respect for ur skill and patience 👍 the master system was my 1st system I had back in the 80s, I reme Hang On, R type & Wonder boy In Monster Land (1 of my all time favourite on the system, that too me ages to complete). I'm now thinking of getting a cheap from Cex and re-living my childhood experience again, thanks 😚

[@CraigyGInDaHut1993]

Always love watching your videos. That looks like it was a very delicate reoair as well with so many being broke and so close together. Watching your videos got me fully taking my consoles apart. Would have only went to disk drive/power supply. Now fully take them apart to clean. Have to start on the soldering soon.

[@BorderlineOCD]

I’m glad you’re taking your consoles apart to give them a thorough cleaning. That’s already a step further than the majority of people would go. Your systems are probably running quieter and cooler as a result specially the systems with heat sinks and fans. Never too late to start messing with a soldiering iron. Christmas is right around the corner, maybe a basic iron is your gift to yourself ;)

[@zerofide]

your soldering skills and the tweezer, wow. incredible!

[@klashe1977]

I love that you show the clean up and reorganizing of your work area. Nice work on the repair too. Learned something today.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thanks 👍 Indeed I can't stand clutter or mess. I like things nice and tidy.

[@Dthebeatsmith]

Great work. I’ve been teaching myself to repair audio equipment but I’m also a retro gamer enthusiast. This was so inspiro watch and your taste in background music is superb! I learned some new stuff from watching this for sure!

[@BorderlineOCD]

Glad you found it useful. Cheers.

[@teddycaster248]

Great video, and great job 👍 Wow! It big pleasure when guys like you repair and give new life to consoles from past. You save that Sega and now it work again. Super! 😊

[@BorderlineOCD]

Glad you enjoyed it, cheers.

[@supersaito]

You did an incredible repair sir, by far one of your hardest repair. Keep more of these coming! Good job!

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thanks very much. It turned out to be a rewarding project for sure and quite motivating that I managed to pull it off. Hope to continue finding these neglected systems easily and keep the content coming!

[@meunaimharouj6325]

This repair is ART. You dig that POWERBASE out of its grave!

[@BorderlineOCD]

That's high praise, thank you!

[@saeklin]

Sweet collection in the background, reminds me of my own method of organization. I like to have each shelf be like a little shrine to the whole system. But I imagine you have a ton more games stored away out of sight and these are just your prized examples.

[@BorderlineOCD]

I'm more of a fix-it nerd than a video game collector. I have a more impressive console collection than a game collection. The organization system has worked well for far. I might be re-doing it soon to create a more interesting backdrop for you guys.

[@NeoMorphUK]

FYI you can buy reels of enamel wire in any gauge you need. I’ve used enamel wire in phone and computer board repairs. Nice thing about enamel wire is that the wires can be near other contacts and won’t short.

[@oldschooldude8370]

Enjoyed the video. You made the best of the "lovely repair" Excellent soldering skills. That kind of stuff is mind numbing. I use to touch up Ratheon boards for a government contract years ago and it was the pits.

[@az_tinkerer_gamer]

That was insane. Ive seen some wire repairs before, nothing quite as nice and precise as this. Props with the skill, time to practice. Thanks for the video, i know im a lil late lol.

[@alpha_au]

Just love your repair work, look forward to each one. This was an excellent repair!

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thanks a lot buddy I really appreciate you coming back for all the new projects. Glad to hear you are enjoying the content.

[@hectordj3745]

Deff great video. I own many oldschool consoles and this is the right guy to get them fix. Thank u. Greetings from Texas

[@rosebuddesign635]

My first console, the one that started it all. Brings back so many memories. Great video and good job on the repare! 👍

[@BorderlineOCD]

The nostalgia is what makes this such a fun hobby. I understand completely.

[@ratherbecampin]

Crazy Master System story. Buddy from high school gave me his with the story that it doesnt work. First thing I did was test the power supply and BAM. Thats all it was. Little bit of knowledge goes a long way, and thats why I enjoy your vids so much.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Glad you got that system working and I've actually found your experience to be quite common with faulty system. Too often its a bad power supply, a loose or broken power connector, or a bad fuse. All very simple faults to remedy even for beginners and another system saved from the dumps.

[@AdamHougham]

Great repair work! I like the way the video is interesting for people with the console, for people interested in learning soldering skills and for people who need to learn patience!

[@BMR86]

I can't imagine the level of satisfaction you get doing these kinds of repairs! mad respect! your setup is ... like the name of your channel... borderline OCD ! congrats!

[@BorderlineOCD]

Haha thank you. It's a very satisfying hobby thats for sure and I enjoy it very much.

[@JamesRichardsPlays]

Late tot he party, but I make it a point to leave comments when I can. And your videos always earn a 'like' anyway. One thing I don't miss (as I watch you plug in the controller) is how much 'work' goes in to plugging in those old controllers on older consoles. Rocking the plug back and forth as you plug in has always grated on my nerves. Also, I made this kind of repair. Took a lot of work. Seems on the master system AND consoles with 'top loaders' that is a common problem eventually. This was definitely fun to watch. I don't miss doing those kind of repairs.

[@paulooliveira130]

Congratulations on the job, man! This was beautiful.

[@michaelmay9728]

I had the NES as a child and my sister had the Master System, it had Hang On built in..loved that game!

[@seikb-9228]

Amazing video and repair job, lots of soldering skills and precision were needed there and you pulled it off.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thanks buddy, I definitely have gotten deeper into this hobby and I'm glad I can salvage a system in this sort of condition. Cheers.

[@Metal-Maniac-Forever]

The Quality Of Your Work Is Amazing...Vastly Superior...Very Good...Thanks For Sharing.

[@thehumbleone1983]

I love Master System grew up with it here in Australia so great memories with this console growing up. Great repair video 👍

[@BorderlineOCD]

It's all about the nostalgia, that's why we love retro games. Very fond memories of this system on my end too.

[@GORF_EMPIRE]

I saw the problem as soon as you turned it over. Nice to see you persevere and bring it back to working order.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Good catch. Took me a couple of minutes to focus my eyes on the right area.

[@GORF_EMPIRE]

@@BorderlineOCD Someone got a bit over-excited popping those carts in and out. Either that or they stored something on top of the unit with the cart pulgged in.

[@lairbox]

That's a great work! I am pretty new to soldering, never saw electronic varnish to protect the board!!! That's a real professional work!

[@BorderlineOCD]

The proper stuff to use is called solder resist, I just use nail polish as a bit of a hack. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@djfunkycraig]

Mate this video was sensational!! I appreciate your time showing us some skills!!!!

[@tipi5586]

Subscribed, my friend. Gonna make sure I keep posted on these calm, dedicated vibes that you're broadcasting.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thanks for the sub my man.

[@awogbob]

You got my subscription. Not sure what the hack was but definitely encouraged me that patience and approaching the repair logically can go a long way. I repaired a broken trace on an old tascam tape recorder that I was able to then sell for $300 profit. I recapped a small board on our toaster to get it working. Repair is so fun and rewarding

[@BorderlineOCD]

Ha the hack was meant to be using wire strands in lieu of magnet wire and nail polish instead of solder resist. Glad you enjoyed the video and I couldn't agree more about the satisfaction of fixing things.

[@awogbob]

@@BorderlineOCD and here I was thinking those were just professional solutions lol

[@randomretroplays3123]

Very relaxing watch. If we all had the right knowledge and patience like this so many systems could be saved. Great content my friend. Huge like 👍

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.

[@cristianmolina6889]

What an amazing job,.its satisfying to watch a master going at it.

[@alejandrobolanos4655]

I just can't believe the accuracy on the wiring work, bro that was just awesome!!

[@BorderlineOCD]

Glad you liked it.

[@alejandrobolanos4655]

@@BorderlineOCD you need better music tho haha

[@Troy-McClure81]

I use to love playing the hidden snail maze game built into the system, also used these controllers to play on my Atari 400,great video

[@Rosscotas]

Smashed bison . Amazing work I couldn't even see that wire. Signature nail polish nice

[@mattsmedley.onehandedgamin9029]

Well done for bringing that Mighty Master System back to life 👍

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thank you sir. I'm sure happy it's alive and kicking once more.

[@shinigami146]

Magnificent work on such a tedious task!

[@migue647]

Of all the consoles that you have repaired, this is undoubtedly the most laborious

[@BorderlineOCD]

I agree, its up there in terms of times spent. Was a really fun project and very pleased with the outcome!

[@vjspectron]

This is a great primer on some techniques for fixing broken traces on video game consoles, but anything similar like electronic music gear. Thanks for the upload!

[@BorderlineOCD]

Great to hear you may have found it helpful.

[@apr2499]

Man that is dedication! Amazing work!

[@tom_123]

What a job! Nicely done!

[@noskatehate]

Hell yeah that was an epic repair! Loving the channel, still have a handful of videos left to watch!

[@BorderlineOCD]

Awesome, thank you.

[@Dreddtube]

Incredible repair! First time I bumped (or YT algorythm pushed me trough) your channel and instant sub. I'm sure that I'll find some great content here.

[@ObsoleteAcey]

Great repair job. Some very delicate soldering going on there

[@TheSwartz]

wow, that's actually in better shape than the "for parts" one I'm trying to fix - and paid a little more for :( But "WHAT" you have to fix is incredible! GOOD JOB!! And it only took one Red Bull LOL You deserve a medal or something bud!

[@BorderlineOCD]

Lol thanks

[@thefifthdoctor6780]

That was an impressive repair and wonderful skills.

[@dsnein]

Really enjoy your editing and down to earth attitude and approach. You’ve earned my sub!

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thanks for the sub!

[@ServJesus7]

That was dope my friend, great job!!

[@Scott-M1]

Nice repair. I had a Master System back in the day. Alex Kidd, California games, Robocop Vs Terminator. And a game called World Soccer, had a great soundtrack. Good times 👍

[@BorderlineOCD]

Bart vs. the Space Mutants was one I played a lot as a kid. I had a silly game called the Incredible Crash Dummies. Good times indeed.

[@Owazrim]

Great work. Another Master System saved and ready for use.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Always a good feeling when the system comes back to life. Thanks for watching.

[@kbbbb7]

+1 sub for the work and for explaining what you were doing...which so many KZbinrs don't do in as much detail as you.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thanks for the sub!

[@churrascovoltorbgaming9453]

I've had a soldering iron for years, brand new in box. As a retro collector soldering and maintaining these old consoles is a must have skill..... but I'm terrified to start learning. Great content.

[@a......5214]

“I was born in it molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man and by then it was nothing to me but blinding.”

[@kimberlybates1187]

Really enjoying your videos. I just recently found them, I love the way you work and what you do. I very much enjoyed, keep up the good work, thanks again.👍

[@BorderlineOCD]

Awesome, thank you!

[@darr2970]

Great video. Very excellent attention to details. I couldn't imagine the time it took to fix this. Looks picture perfect. I better keep practicing.😀

[@MikeStavola]

Your work is definitely good. I do trace repairs for my job almost every day, and it's very similar work.

[@BorderlineOCD]

Thank you. What kind of work do you do? I'm always interested to hear from folks that do this professionally as its mostly a hobby on my end.