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@ftg_crossarms6 күн бұрын
Half the stuff mentioned about Miss Fortune was wrong, so I'll pass.
@HanyuuHOLO5 күн бұрын
@@ftg_crossarms Love how you elaborated and made a reasonable argument about what's wrong with the guide, extremely helpful constructive criticism from you! (Disclaimer: this is sarcasm)
@NoFallwhatever-rp7of5 күн бұрын
@@ftg_crossarms Care to elaborate why you think so? I'm curious
@brooksgunn5235Күн бұрын
I'd like to hear the elaboration too, down to be educated!
@PecoMid7 күн бұрын
I love this format of going through champs reference points, abilities and why they are good etc. I'd definitely be interested in episodes with this format for the other roles in the future too.
@yessir48787 күн бұрын
Would absolutely love this for other roles
@brunomendesss7 күн бұрын
please, this was amazing
@matthewradabaugh16355 күн бұрын
they did this for toplane as well
@memefacemcgee7 күн бұрын
5:45 Something to note about MF movement speed: It stays as long as she has not taken damage, even within a fight. This is one of the main reasons why Bloodthirster is being built on her since the movement speed does not get removed if the BT shield takes damage.
@strategsc27 күн бұрын
In practice pretty much any damage instance from champions will be enough to knock the BT shield off.
@memefacemcgee7 күн бұрын
@strategsc2 true, but it is nice QOL every occasion that it does manage to block a stray skillshot or AOE and you keep the MS
@P.087 күн бұрын
@strategsc2 yh the BT tech was very good when there was the extra shield rune, over growth if am not wrong
@SmallPotato23136 күн бұрын
@@P.08 i think u are talking about overheal rune right? the yellow one, first in second row
@Belegor6 күн бұрын
@@strategsc2 there is a lot of small chip dmg in the game that will remove your ms. Enemy has undending despair? Deals 80 dmg in a 650 radius, gone. Fighting in a minion wave creep aggros you, gone. You side step Shen taunt but his sunfire burns you, gone. Stray commet, gone. Touched a Malignance pool, gone. Ludens proc etc. etc. etc.
@DlCKWALLACE7 күн бұрын
Ok I'm done being a Sivir main....was excited to see their taek on her just to see they skip her ENTIRELY
@raaaaaaaaaaaahhh7 күн бұрын
😂😂and nilah and smolder
@DlCKWALLACE7 күн бұрын
@@raaaaaaaaaaaahhh OH man you're right.
@deathbringer36357 күн бұрын
Same broo, I really wanted to hear about sivir
@kreeperkiller44237 күн бұрын
at least smolder got a mention about his scaling. poor sivir and nilah mains :c anyways, I’m gonna go back to splitpushing toplane. gl adcs!
@dustinstephan45237 күн бұрын
I also think they skipped twitch
@gingeroxide6 күн бұрын
Yoooo 6 adcs barely if at all discussed. Nilah, Sivir, Tristana, Kog'Maw, Twitch, and Smolder. I guess they just ain't cutting it in high elo or something? Pour one out for my girl Sivir loving her rn honestly, especially with all the Caitlyns around and just blanking most of her kit.
@Freakattaker4 күн бұрын
Pretty surprisnig they didn't cover Trist Smolder at least ngl. Trist is a pretty good straight forward one and Smolder's got really clear reference points and is similar to MF with short trade logic.
@Drakshl4 күн бұрын
Not checked their course but I'm assuming thise just aren't recommended champs on their website.
@Sleepytbh3 күн бұрын
Literally just said “kalista is bad lol” feelsbadman
@Hasham-bb2mf6 күн бұрын
One of the best episodes in a while, please do this for other roles.
@zacharywolfgangbecker23866 күн бұрын
Nathan is a national treasure! Hope he never censors a single thought, he’s hilarious
@brotendo7 күн бұрын
As soon as Curtis asked what Ezreal's most important ability is, I instantly said passive. It makes his level 2 all in super broken if you keep your passive up.
@jackhkf14197 күн бұрын
Thanks for making an episode on ADC. Please don't stop addressing this role in the future. We are having a bad time playing the game rn.
@babystickman07 күн бұрын
We?
@Dyna1One6 күн бұрын
@@babystickman0 Him and the redditors that tuned out when they started mentioning the victim mentality
@Bhavya04096 күн бұрын
@Dyna1One honest question, do you play ADC at all?
@Dyna1One6 күн бұрын
@@Bhavya0409 have been playing adc for almost 14 years and even though it isn’t peak, it’s fine tbh
@jackhkf14196 күн бұрын
@@Dyna1One well good for you then :)
@blaceish7 күн бұрын
1:10:46 I know why many lower level players struggle with Swain E. Swain’s E was troublesome for me because its root has a small AOE when it hits minions. For example, at a basic level spacing against an Ahri Q involves tracking Ahri and knowing the projectile’s range/speed, but if you only pay attention to Swain’s positioning and the E projectile you will get caught out by it bursting on minions at a distance where you would have been fine in the open. I struggled against Swain’s E for a long time but as soon as I realized that, Swain matchups lost the fear I had for them. Could be a concept to make sure any students struggling with Swain understand.
@glenndiddy5 күн бұрын
Swain E is one of the few abilities that took me a few games to get used to dodging. Almost every skillshot in botlane can be backstepped, and backstepping is almost always the correct choice for an ADC since it puts you out of range, but swain E has an AOE hitbox at the end that extends past the actual animation making it deceptively far reaching. The only choice you have is sidestepping it 90% compared to swain.
@lachiemunro74 күн бұрын
Amazing episode as usual. So glad we've got to know Charlie, such a breath of fresh air, not that it was needed. But a welcome change, great to get different knowledge.
@P.087 күн бұрын
Best ADCs : karthus, viktor, swain, seraphine, syndra, lux , tahm kench, cho gath, hewie, oriana, xerath, all mages. Soraka works too
@MrJray207 күн бұрын
Forgot K’sante
@P.087 күн бұрын
@MrJray20 right ! I should have just said play anything but ADC 😭
@TRKPurgatos7 күн бұрын
And DARIUS
@mcsy986 күн бұрын
sona
@gamertide12227 күн бұрын
Great episode, as an adc main I've been waiting for this one and it's great! 48:54 you've got to WHAT
@realNaniByte6 күн бұрын
I hope for a part 2. It's interesting to hear all these champs reference points, but I would also like a more holistic discussion about the role itself. I hope Nathan is not taking the clowning too personally since I find his honesty and curiosity endearing.
@Yamiuta7 күн бұрын
Just began my ranked Journey in North America. With Nathan and the jungle academy. Your community is absolutely amazing 💕 thank you for everything!!
@javidanodqan78987 күн бұрын
Please do this for top lane!!! Your ultimate guide for top is great for understanding the fundamentals, and one of the big things you touched on was knowing the matchups and what they want to do. So seeing a champ by champ break down for top would be awesome!
@splitspray16777 күн бұрын
This is really good for me as a support main, excited to watch this through, any chance you could do this but a support version aswell? much love from Sweden!
@zacharywolfgangbecker23866 күн бұрын
They did a few months ago
@Amygdala00026 күн бұрын
12:23 this line hit like a punch in the gut
@praetorxak53617 күн бұрын
The "Bully Nathan" episode
@mejdlocraftci7 күн бұрын
His distorted view of things outside his domain is kinda scary. I'd be pointing it out too if someone next to me kept saying random stuff
@onescYT5 күн бұрын
he took it like a champ. this episode was so funny
@Roar___Shack4 күн бұрын
Great episode and a lot of good info. I have to disagree on the "stay in rocket form" take on Jinx though. Tell this to a lower ranked player and they will be 100% OOM by the end of the second wave.
@haroentmimi7 күн бұрын
Will there be an ultimate episode for every role? I really liked this episode, it helped me get rid of some narratives.
@Aanenk6 күн бұрын
Lets see this! as an adc main thats been watching for years, I am excited to hear what this episode brings/.
@TheLastCity4177 күн бұрын
Twitch not being on the ADC list is a pretty accurate depiction of his current state Also Xayah is the best tempo ADC in the game, MF can't even come close to taking jungle camps and waves in 3-4s per unit. You literally onetap midwave, throw qw while walking past jungle camp, your E executes it while youre walking botlane, and then you onetap botwave. The amount of damage you provide to objectives is also top1 in the game, along with the ability to stack 10+ feathers to smite the objective, legit jungle diffing every objective in a nutshell
@mrmangbro68426 күн бұрын
Maybe another 5% aa speed will do it
@TheLastCity4176 күн бұрын
@mrmangbro6842 You can give him 50% it won't change a thing.
@mrmangbro68426 күн бұрын
@TheLastCity417 I was joking about how terrible the "buff" was.
@TheLastCity4176 күн бұрын
@@mrmangbro6842 Well then excuse me, but i've heard ppl unironically type "twitch is already op why buff" so I'm starting to doubt my ability to discriminate irony Same for Reptile trying to 1v1 Tahm Kench as Kraken/Runaan's Jinx and wondering why an AoE champion with 0 AD in build can't win that, "but mah attackspeed rito"
@mrmangbro68426 күн бұрын
@TheLastCity417 I pray to play vs Twitch, he's actually worthless in master+ and not worth playing above gold lol
@liammccarthy39736 күн бұрын
I swear to god throughout my 13 years playing this game everyone always sleeps or actively hates on sivir. Pick her at the right time and you are thanos
@hazzembelkaab6517 күн бұрын
ive been waiting for this episode for years finally !
@LettucePlate7 күн бұрын
I think the terminology of "100-0" or "100% HP trades" at 5:15 and 48:55 should've been explained a little better imo. Because I feel like that naming convention implies "a trade in which someone loses 100% of their HP" or an all-in, when in reality I think what Charlie is trying to explain is the opposite of that. I understood it as "you only take short trades when your champion has 100% HP". Was a bit confusing to follow I think. Other than that great episode as always guys. Really enjoyed it :)
@xXHotaroXx6 күн бұрын
hahaha -- it's because in the community it's an understood concept. 100-0 trades are basically trades where you deal dmg but enemy does 0% dmg back to you, so it's basically just poking without taking dmg.
@glenndiddy5 күн бұрын
basically "free" trades, where you just get a hit in and back away before they can trade back.
@Eyro_Elloyn7 күн бұрын
>"Every ADC" >Looks inside >Where Nilah
@thedanksoul7 күн бұрын
sivir? twitch?
@blueknightcraze67666 күн бұрын
@@thedanksoul zeri
@BusJACKTV6 күн бұрын
Tristana
@jesseschmitt78055 күн бұрын
ideally nilah is removed from the game
@Jedidiah_McCain6 күн бұрын
I was about to make a comment complaining that there’s no chapter dedicated to Vayne. But then I realized that I’m very much okay with people not learning how to optimize playing as Vayne.
@carlosdumbratzen63324 күн бұрын
Learning to play vayne good is like learning to main riven or yasuo. Best and worst feeling. Today I am no longer a vayne main and stick to more normal adcs
@lanceeverett52216 күн бұрын
1:30:00 - It's frustrating that ADC players (below plat) have these feelings and don't ping! Don't ping item gold needed, don't ping lane assignments, don't ping off objectives, just get frustrated mid/jungle is taking farm so they go afk.
@DaddyOCE6 күн бұрын
Hi Curtis, Nathan and Charlie! Forgive me for waffling, im cooked as lmao, I recently found the podcast via randomly finding Curtis's channel, and his video about playing in bronze, and the growth of his understanding 2 years later had me hooked. I love the mentality you have with the game, I have forever thought I was the only person that hated the cliche advice that didn't help. I hated the "Learn to farm, Learn to control waves, Learn to play safe" because it's just not helpful. I used the example to my wife the other day, "Its like your english teacher in school saying "Okay guys, learn to read!" and you just sit there wondering, okay, how? what are words? and they just say "Learn to read a book!" without even explaining what letters are. I fucking love the way you guys talk about the game, I admire the attention to detail, specifically your Syndra guides Curtis, have been incredible. I have been wanting to play adc for so long but I just cannot seem to grasp the lane with 4 people in it, It feels like too much to manage and I am an emerald player lmao. I enjoyed seeing Curtis chat with LS, as I personally disagree with the way LS talks about the game specifically in lower elos, I love LS for pro play analysis, which is mostly what he does, but when he speaks about low elos and helps new players (other streamers etc) with the game I think he has just a massive disconnect. I saw Ludwig recently saying that he can't unlock his camera to scan lanes when ganking because he plays as if he is playing a single player game. Which is exactly what LS said to do. Anyways, i love the content guys, and I appreciate you all for the effort you put into teaching people how to just be better people overall. Also P.S, Charlie was wrong about AD Kaisa, its so good to play i swear. Majority of people even Master+ are going hybrid builds mostly. but he reserved the right to have spat his bullshit so it's okay x
@mfinch7047 күн бұрын
I think ADCs have a hard time dodging swain E because the most dangerous position to be in is right at the edge of the skillshot which also lines up with most ADCs auto range. I've found if I really want to make swain miss E it helps to get a little bit closer to him and then it's easy to dodge because you can still be moving out of the way while it's swinging back to him.
@meraangst6 күн бұрын
Would have loved to see your take on Tristana & Smolder, especially the difference in identity between when they are played mid and adc
@shyrakete2946 күн бұрын
missing those
@Freakattaker4 күн бұрын
D3~D2 NA Bot Smolder rn. Peaked around 200-ish LP last split and ended around 100-ish playing him Bot before he got nerfed and changed because of his solo lane presence. Smolder's great at short trades in the early game using his Q. Has a massive mid game dip where you try to collect waves. Landing ult is very important to deal dmg pre-225. Once you hit 225 without going behind, Smolder likes slow front to back fights where he can slowly pump out Q and W. Can also follow up good engages by pressing R. Champ never falls off and is still a menace in late game. Builds are still being cooked, but I feel I've settled on a couple of main ideas. -You can take Comet 90% of the time and have a good laning phase outside of the absolute bullies like Cait Lux, Draven/Kalista, etc. -Biscuit JOAT > Yellow 2ndary -Take Manaflow or PoM and go Hubris > ER -Buy HP/Defensive if you get out of laning ahead; buy dmg if you get out of laning behind (really bad situation, but the only cope available). -Ahead build example: Hubris -> BC -> Shojin -Behind build example: Hubris -> ER -> LDR ER vs Hubris rant; ER is still a fine item just the passive is wasted if you have any mana runes or buy tear, BUT it's still VERY stat and gold efficient for Smolder and is the only item with all of the stats he loves (AD, CR, AH), so it's a reasonable buy if you need cost efficient damage asap. Also totally reasonable to buy ER 1st still, but am a Hubris believer because it's only slightly worse in dmg by mid-late game, but pulls ahead MASSIVELY the moment the passive activates.
@rokasb94417 күн бұрын
Theme of this podcast today was such a cool idea!
@ExclusiveExcellence7 күн бұрын
Now this is what I been waiting for 🙏🏾
@alexanderfrench92366 күн бұрын
As a support main, this is gold
@ampongjohnricardo21677 күн бұрын
Haven't watched the full episode yet but I hope an episode like this is also done with mages or midlaners
@SunOmega3 күн бұрын
Waiting for part 2 for other adcs that are missing here, great video!
@gallae4 күн бұрын
one note about the xayah W interaction with rakan discussed at 39:05 : xayah's W actually gives rakan the movespeed she gets too, not just the attack speed. I've used it to give my rakan enough speed to catch an enemy ADC before. still not the biggest interaction, and I agree that they're still a pretty weak duo, but thought it was important to note!
@Dronacharya-ki6mx7 күн бұрын
Awesome. Love your podcast. My personal preference is to not see both above and under the table as it splits the vision/screen for me. A round table may allow you to sit closer and have narrower camera angle.
@thewordisbranch7 күн бұрын
Justice for kalista
@rubinrobo22656 күн бұрын
34:00 saying E should never be used defensive is a bit of an overstatement. You are still covering some distance to get to touret in case of a surprise gank or buffer out of a hook that you couldn’t dodge.
@coolbrotherf1277 күн бұрын
Totally agree with playing for Tempo with MF. She's my most played ADC by far and 90% of that reason is because she is so fast and can do so much by just being places before the opposing ADC can.
@alexgagnon82986 күн бұрын
great episode but at 47:34 , as an urgot main i haveto mention that urgot and caitlyns power spikes are literally opposite one another. with urgot being one of the strongest midgame spiking champions because of his passive, and caitlyn being far weaker in the midgame compared to any other point in the game since she needs items. league of graphs winrate by gametime shows this really nicely where urgots highest wr/game time is at 20 min and falls off after, and cait is the opposite where her lowest wr/game time is 15-20 min and steadily rises afterwards
@SplashyGhost3ye7 күн бұрын
ADC EP!!!! FINALLY
@FinalOverdose6 күн бұрын
Kai'sa has the join the fight advantage that so many ADC's Lack. The jungler on talking about how he doesn't fear the immobile, but fears Kai'sa is a big tip off there. It really comes down to if MF or Jinx aren't there when the fight starts they probably won't be there when it ends, but Kai'sa can join from half (hyperbole, I don't know the actual units she can travel) a map away.
@cdpower99Күн бұрын
What can someone expect when getting in the ADC academy ? is there a summary somewhere of what 's included.
@BrokenByConceptКүн бұрын
weteachleague.com/adc-academy/
@christianowens41047 күн бұрын
I need some clarification on Jinx. How tf do you stay in rocket form all game, I swear I fire like 4 rockets and I'm half mana.
@kelato-by4px6 күн бұрын
You don't. This is a really bad take.
@TheLastCity4174 күн бұрын
This take is aboht teamfights. In lane you rocket the casters to get push and swap to minigun. In teamfights or when you go for one rocket on enemy adc, PoM will regen all the mana you need.
@wallSF6short7 күн бұрын
Love your work guys! Have a question for you, there is not allot of educational lol podcast on spotify, is there some future you guys do 2 episode a week? example 1 remote, 1 irl? have a great week!
@bshell17316 күн бұрын
ADC Academy rise up!
@rustone98296 күн бұрын
That was a clean ass intro from nathan holy
@zacharywolfgangbecker23867 күн бұрын
Oh my god I’ve been waiting a year for this one! Let’s go!
@xkavvu95455 күн бұрын
I didn't realize that Nathan is the goat lmao
@WiiSportsTwo7 күн бұрын
I didn't check if you already did, but I'd be interested to see this for other lanes too
@_traphic5 күн бұрын
i loved this conversation
@kaoss68355 күн бұрын
Great insight guys! One caveat, please don't include in the title 'breaking down every champ' when you miss almost half the roster. IMO, this could have been done as a two-parter where pt1 is philosophy, narrative, core gameplay ect. And pt2 can be individual champ breakdowns. Great content nevertheless, ❤ from Perth.
@seanpietroberlinzani7 күн бұрын
wheres nilah?
@darrak17 күн бұрын
what about vayne and sivir?
@Tendenciess7 күн бұрын
Been waiting for this
@CausalityUsurper7 күн бұрын
Def solid episode premise. Looking forward to jungle.
@connoro8427 күн бұрын
If IWD got top 10 on OCE server but it takes him months to get challenger on NA, how good actually is that server? Surely low Master tier OCE is like D3 in NA ? Or am I off
@Matkatamiba6 күн бұрын
Mages bot are pretty weak pre 6, but their ability to combo off of cc from supports in lane is so strong + the items are cheaper and a little stronger for the first few dragon fights. It eventually falls off when adcs catch up at 2-3 items, but you have a long time in the game to get advantages. Also, solo laners love playing AD champs anyways, so it lets them do their thing and you can snowball so many games. Other adcs not mentioned: - Sivir imo is pretty similar to Jinx, but maybe a bit more support agnostic and a nice counterpick. Waveclear extraordinaire, great teamfighter. - Kog is honestly more of a lane trading bully than the late game carry a lot of players think he is. His range is crazy but he really falls off cause of mobility and no crit. - Vayne is so bad in lane and wave management that you better be really damn good at her to make up for it. Enchanter supports are almost more mandatory for her than for Kog even. - Tristana is interesting. I think she's a bit unknown, since they shifted her power away from solely being an early game all in monster. Not really sure how she'll shake out in the meta. Very matchup dependent. Sorta plays like Jinx with reset potential and generally being opportunistic. - Zeri is pretty weak right now. Imo there's a lot of benefit to one-tricking her, as I see so much power from players who know her all-in potential very exactly (similar to Kaisa players). - Twitch got the Riot Special of both champ nerfs then item nerfs. He's incredibly tied to botrk strength, and crit isn't very strong either. Weak in lane and then you have to know exactly who you can go after to get picks. More of a counterpick, terrible blind. - Nilah is a counterpick champ. She has some of the most insane matchup swings (+9.5% against Yasuo bot, -10% against Seraphine bot). But her kit is very unorthodox, so it's hard to have it practiced well just for counterpicking.
@kulde71006 күн бұрын
As a Kai’Sa main I’d like to give an advice of what to do when you have a mage or a Janna I just build HoB and LS build and works for me honestly but in those cases I’d play Trist which is just great with enchanters right now or Ez that works great with mages hehe im not high Elo im just plat1 but thats how i make it work when i cant avoid those scenarios
@yannaedc59347 күн бұрын
As an ADC main I am rooting for a couple xD you're gonna break my heart. But I have my hopes up...
@gingeroxide6 күн бұрын
Ashe is getting some meaningful changes in next patch. Her passive does not need an auto or w to allow her the bonus damage but she'll have to invest in crit to make use of it, and w will be adjusted so the carry potential might be better.
@TheLastCity4174 күн бұрын
The problem with Ashe is that she stops dealing damage after 1.5 slots when frontliners finish their 1.5-2 hp+armor items. Riot won't nearly compensate it
@nilsfenchel2966 күн бұрын
I would love to see this kind of episode for mid lane.
@HopeArk6 күн бұрын
1:00:00 the 200 year meme is actually from wukong vgu
@kkkkkkkk6527 күн бұрын
no zeri no sivir nothing rip
@gellertgyori97346 күн бұрын
Literally unwatchable :(
@nandoborchardt43276 күн бұрын
What about vayne?
@zedia79676 күн бұрын
birthday episode poggers, one year closer to dust
@nandoborchardt43276 күн бұрын
Sick episode
@alexx38477 күн бұрын
Man Curtis has huuuge arms, im so jealous
@arosesthrone64206 күн бұрын
This is SOOO sad to see as Nilah main, no timestamp, but still excited to watch the episode!
@pogpy7 күн бұрын
Hilarious episode!
@olafkiszka3937 күн бұрын
Great video guys, can you do one episdoe for each role that would be awesome
@hyutfm6 күн бұрын
Do this for other roles too pls great podcast😊
@joker1237967 күн бұрын
Nathan single handeled prove that junglers have 1 brain cell.
@Affinity0016 күн бұрын
mail bag tune???
@rodrigotoledo70676 күн бұрын
My main complaint as a adc in really low elo (iron 1, bronze 4) is that the supports dont support at all. I see a lot of supports playing carry champs and just forgoing the duties of a support as peeling, warding and trading with the adc. They play part of the laning phase then go take side waves and become another top or mid, while i stay alone trying not to die as i farm or in the teamfights as the tanks or assasins jump at my face and melts it
@markmartin28196 күн бұрын
adc players on their way to rush Rapid Fire cannon and Phantom dancer into Malphite top and Sejuani jg:
@rammycanales37846 күн бұрын
do they not mention Zeri?
@Hauteclaire_7 күн бұрын
We need this for supports !
@nloadergd91937 күн бұрын
tristana ?
@ninesystem38477 күн бұрын
Sad to see no nilah mentioned, i feel like she is worth talking about.
@zachholland870849 минут бұрын
I actually do pick Corki because I find him fun; I was playing him bot before 14.10, I'll continue to do so even when his popularity fades
@clews11733 күн бұрын
Holaa, I usually listen to your podcast quite a lot despite being in English because well, I understand most of it, but have you thought at some point to put subtitles in Spanish? so I think you would reach a larger audience and make it easier for me hahaha, Good video guys
@Charms2567 күн бұрын
Something that has me curious about the reference to MF being an AD caster is, how come we didnt see her much in the AD mid meta? Seems like she can pull the role off quite well with a poke heavy shove and roam + sustain style
@butterflyfx577 күн бұрын
Low wave clear. Also pretty bad against mages before BT. She also lacks hard CC which isn't great if you interpret her as more of a roamer
@ashtonshephard38527 күн бұрын
Miss fortune has real and clear drawbacks. She's too mana hungry for mid and her only defensive option is speed and e, and her waveclear isn't strong especially compared to mages. That and lethality items weren't good enough on her to make up for it
@TheLastCity4177 күн бұрын
- Mana hungry - Can't really all in mages like Zeri/Trist/Lucian do, to beat them into submission - Bad into high range - Low waveclear, hard to take priority when your only option for waveclear is Q - Not great at tower taking - Low teamfighting potential - Low skirmishing potential outside of maybe E slow - Atrocious scaling into frontliners (extremely low DPS), low range makes it near impossible to hit backline - No mobility, so good luck playing against Syndra/Ahri/LeBlanc - No sidelaning, which was half the point of ADC mid - Low damage to objectives - No high skill ceiling abilities / outplay potential - Boring af lule
@badguy86047 күн бұрын
i hope you do this with every role
@instinct591211 сағат бұрын
Why you guys skipped sivir?
@snowman23956 күн бұрын
Where is Nilah??
@trist56125 күн бұрын
How is vayne not mentioned???????????
@Germancouch7 күн бұрын
I was the “does not trade guy” for so long!
@jacobmorrison51443 күн бұрын
The Sivir slander is unreal
@Pyridius6 күн бұрын
Nathan was hilarious in this one and he also just like me forreal
@jacobcannon88767 күн бұрын
MF OTP who when trying mid was immediately drawn to Oriana and Viktor, Curtis was spot on Also on the Kai’Sa take: THANK YOU. All of my friends who don’t play the role bitch about her endlessly but she is one of the least concerning ADCs in the game IMO, something about non-botlaners and being scared of Kai’Sa doesn’t make sense to me.
@Matkatamiba6 күн бұрын
It's like Vayne when she was stronger many years ago. Tanky engage junglers hated her but bot laners were pretty 'eh, just bully her in lane'
@jacobcannon88765 күн бұрын
@ but see I always feel like the threat with Vayne is way more serious because the people who play her bot are usually one tricking her while pretty much everyone and their mom tries to play Kai’Sa. Definitely more of a time bomb feeling with Vayne, more scary to me
@ronng956 күн бұрын
Please make this for jungle! 🤩
@WvlfeTV5 күн бұрын
The core four I really enjoy playing are Ashe, Caitlyn, Sivir and Xayah I generally am blind picking Ashe always, my absolute favorite champion to play. I enjoy Xayah a lot, but there's very few situations where she's really good so I end up never playing her and my four is more like Ashe / Caitlyn / Sivir / Jihn
@n0oo77 күн бұрын
I only feel good as samira if i sit under an illaoi, morde, Swain and etc. voli too. Low elo deathball fights are great for her.
@josefbailey64267 күн бұрын
I feel good on Sam with any kind of engage.
@metaling2786 күн бұрын
Who's the adc coach you keep referring to? Rico? Recurve? Reeko? :)