BROMPTON FOLDING BIKE T LINE TITANIUM CARBON ROAD BIKE ALTERNATIVE

[@PitanuBoonyaratvej]

Nice video again, I have a couple of questions. 1. if the handlebar is wider, did the stem length or angle change? 2. new hub set up is QR capable, or still using the antiquated nuts & bolts :)

[@PitanuBoonyaratvej]

I've always had a bit of problem with the standard pedals, more specifically the folding one, often thought about changing them to the MKS qr model.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏼‍🦲The handlebar is about 2" wider. The difference is where the stem hinge folds. The T-Line has a black section above the Headset and the hinge folds above it. This allows for the stem to fold higher so the handlebars don't hit the ground.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏼‍🦲 Me too. The folding pedal felt strange. The new one I don't notice it and it feels fine so far.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏼‍🦲The new hub is not quick release. I've never used QR before.

[@PitanuBoonyaratvej]

@@BromptonFamilyTime QR saves time & headaches if you have a puncture, but with the 4 speed at least you won't have to mess with dismantling the Sturmey Archer cables and putting it back together again.

[@AlejandroMaureira9]

The best review of the Brompton T-Line. Thanks for sharing.

[@SmallOutdoors]

T LINEいいなーって見てたら「今日は泳げれんよ」の懐かしい方言にやられちゃいました🤣👍 お子さんも超かわいいですね😍

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

ザ・方言！今気づきました。😅 そう言われてみると岡山/広島弁とニューヨーク訛りの英語が飛び交う変なおうちです。😳 飲茶のビデオ、楽しみにしています！

[@KiwiDJ]

Sweet bike, man! Dig that noisy hub too. Looking forward to the comparison vid.

[@bromptoning]

Thanks for the rundown on the T-line! I can't believe you've never used Brompton's front block! I love the block. Maybe I should do a post about alllll the bags I have and all the bags I WISH I had for my Brompton. 😂

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏻Hi, Bromptoning! Shu has some specific preference on "looks" I believe. Same goes to his disliking on mudguards. 😅 But I do love using my basket on front block. So if you are making the video about all your bags, I would watch it! And many others, too. Bags are fun and convenient!👍

[@bromptoning]

@@BromptonFamilyTime Ha! Pier is the same. I talked him into mudguards because I said we couldn't travel just when it was sunny! 😂 And he still only has one bag for his Brompton; I have four! Though he often uses one of my totes.

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

I normally have a T bag - type close to my Brompton, for general use as a folded van in stores. I may buy an open top version for the purpose. And I haven't used a rack at all, though I have some, also from titanium, ready. But My mudguards are in place with the original, titanium struts and now also with carbon clamps/holders for the struts. And Dutch based shop, "Bromptonian" makes special strengthening parts also for the mudguards, not to be damaged during handling (Also special parts for repair of damage to the Brompton's frame-parts. And to make it a stronger terrain bike, version). I have added one clamp to my fronts end with the flap in the bottom and I have two, black holders made from aluminum to fix my mudguards to the bike. The original English set actually weighs a lot, being made from ordinary metal, also to be improved upon on a Lightweight.

[@angteannmeng]

Hi, Thank you so much for the review. Well no luck for me to get a T line here in Singapore.... your T Line looks so good. Looking forward to watch your next video... love watching it

[@四季折々の山風景]

I got a better understanding of the details of T Line. Unlike my steel bike, it's specially designed, durable and lightweight everywhere. The wooden path along the coastline has a nice atmosphere. Your child is always cute. It looks good on a child seat.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

🧑🏼‍🦲Thank you! I steel bike is still a great bike. The prices are completely different as well.

[@davidhunternyc1]

I loved this video soooo much !!! It made my day. You guys are such an amazing family. The little one is soooo adorbs.... oh, and there's the amazing titanium Brompton too. Stay awesome. ♥

[@tito2928]

Great Job, describing the new T Line.

[@norahalkefs]

Great video,guys I really want that bike 😃😃😃😃😃

[@railwaystationmaster]

Your channel will become my go to reference point when the T line I just purchased eventually arrives .

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

🧑🏼‍🦲 Nice! It's been a great bike so far ✌️

[@ggetoile]

Gorgeous Brommy! Can’t wait for mine! I agree about fenders. Never liked them on any bike! Besides…it doesn’t rain anymore here in CA! Oh. And thank you for protection of “evil eye” in center of bottom bracket…

[@chrislabish]

Nice review. It does look better without the fenders. They sell little black rubber bike specific plugs for this size bolt hole. I use them a lot on various bikes. They stay in place well and are fairly inconspicuous.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👨🏻‍🦲 Nice I will look into it! Thanks for the info. I'll try and find some online.

[@janeknox7304]

Great video. Where I live in the West of Scotland mudguards are a necessity unless you love getting a wet back and legs when it rains.

[@edwardwongiii2229]

I am considering getting my first Brompton soon. I have looked at the A-Line all the way to the T-Line and determining how much I want to spend and if the chosen model will fit all my needs and wants. All this said, I find it disappointing that these folding joints are subject to such wear and tear. I am going to tell an interesting story. Back in the early 2000s, I ordered a 20-inch folding bike that came with a 5 speed drivetrain complete with a friction shifter, rear spring suspension and believe it or not, a rear band brake. The front was a standard V-Brake. It was a Chinese made brand called Qile Duo and I paid less than $135 brand new shipped to my place in Florida. I rode the living day lights out of that bike using it to commute to work, go shopping and running other errands, participated in club rides on the weekends, rode it on many evenings after supper, etc. Here's the kicker. The folding mechanism never showed signs of wear in spite of months of riding it on cobblestone on the way to work and not being too gentil at all with it. It had a plastic part that held the bike together when folded (no Velcro strap needed) and the handlebar stem simply dropped low into the headtube instead of folding over when the quick release was i am as loosened. It made for a tight folded package that could be rolled on its wheels. All in all it was a very cleverly designed folder but of course it was much heavier and folded bigger than a Brompton. Given all the facts from all the Brompton videos I have watched, I think I will stick with getting the lower cost A-Line as I am skeptical about spending $5,500 on the T-Line which seems to me a little too delicate and not quite worth the money. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Wearing out the frame hinges on the steel frame is not something that will occur overnight. It really depends on many factors including how you ride, your weight, distance ridden etc. Some will never need to be changed and some might after a few months. There is no definite answer unfortunately. The T Line uses bushings in its frame hinges so it techinally should not wear out (you would simply replace the bushings which takes 5 minutes at the most).

[@edwardwongiii2229]

@@fender1000100 Thanks for the advice. I actually wound up getting a Zizzo Liberte for well under $400 BRAND NEW shipped to my place. It is fast and light. Couldn't ask for more given the price point. But I do agree tha the Brommie is overpriced and too hyped and the Tern Verge X11 is an exceptional model.

[@kenyee43]

Nice addition to your Brompton collection. I would suggest adding a titanium kick stand so you don’t have to fold the bike as much while out riding.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏼‍🦲 Interesting. I lean my bike against walls all the time.

[@alannewman85]

You shouldn't need a kickstand for a Brompton - you simply flip the rear wheel - that's your bike stand.

[@rdiazmartin]

The art of selling at crazy high prices.. brompton reminds me to modern art market.

[@richmck007]

I have had a 6speed Black Edition in all black, rims and all since 2018 and want to invest in an electric version for the comfort of going up hills where I live but have to say the bag sitting at the front does not look attractive, the weight of the bike overall and the issue of having to take it off every time I need to carry the bike. The price is around 3k as well… So what you paid is not so expensive as you will get more value for money in the long run ( pardon the pun..! ) Excellent command of the use of English where technology is concerned. And excellent video. You made that area of the NY look even nicer! I am English and learned a few things from your tech explanation.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Nice that I love the all black look. I think the Electric Bromptons are great and I would like one in the future. Recently, I have seen apartment buildings and buses ban electric scooters and ebikes due to the concern of fires. I still enjoy using a bike as excercise and transportation at the same time!

[@phamster18]

great video. enjoyed and well done

[@minivelotrip]

Tライン、カッコイイですねー。ロングビーチのボードウオーク、自転車レーンもあっていいですね。日本には何故かボードウォークが少なくて残念です。

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

ありがとうございます！この自転車は普通のブロンプトンとは全然違って私もびっくりしてます。通常のスチールのものも勿論良いのですが。 日本でこういうボードウォークってたしかに見たことないかもしれません。日本のビーチサイドの松の木の感じも風情があって素敵です😊かき氷が売ってたら、なお良し。。。🤩

[@CampervanHabitude]

Great vlog. However, I wish I hadn't seen how beautiful the T Line is... I now need one which isn't good for my pocket. My channel is largely VW campervan based but, I do have I have a couple of Brompton vlogs - including a ride around London. I'm also in the process of fitting the new Swytch kit to my M6L so, that vlog should be out in a day or two. I'm looking forward to making my way through your catalogue of vlogs. Happy riding to you and your family. Mal.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Thanks for watching! The T-Line is a great bike. I am happy with it. A M6L with a Swytch kit also sounds nice as long as you don't need to carry it often.

[@CampervanHabitude]

@@BromptonFamilyTime Indeed. It weighs around 16.6 kilos now! However, I also own a V2 Chpt3 which weighs 9.7 kilos so, not all is lost. I took the M6l Swytch out for its first test ride yesterday and have to say, it's great to ride but feels very odd riding up hills. Enjoy your Bromptons. Best regards. Mal.

[@НиколайВарсегов-о5б]

*Works great for our needs.*

[@richmondstar4354]

At around 4:20 mark the rear caliper main bolt stick out too much….now there’s no more seat post lower stop disc surely they could have trimmed that off….unless I guess still extra space for rear rack/light, mudguards eventually😕 you can get a clear helicopter tape and cut accordingly and wrap part of the crank arm….that way you’re not gonna wear off quickly the side of the arm when it touches your hem or shoes. Also you can get a rubber boot for the bottom part of it again from preventing from scraping. Just also noticed that Brompton trying to save more extra weight by not using zip ties for the gear and brake cables😄

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏼‍🦲 It sticks out a lot because I removed the mudguard. I could cut it shorter but I may put the mudguards back on one day lol.

[@theflyingbrompton4787]

Cheers 🍻

[@bromptontaiwantravels]

That is detail sharing. Like.

[@mackirkpatrick3997]

REALLY like your vids, very well done thank you.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Thank you very much!

[@NoZenith]

Baby is SO STINKING cute with the "oh no, what?!" 😧 face when he can't swim 😆

[@jamesvaliensi7706]

Thanks!

[@motomoto898]

I really like the look without the fenders 👌🏾

[@misstubbie1313]

This model will mark a before/after for Brompton. I can totally see Brompton heading that direction

[@motomoto898]

Also, keep making them videos man. I don’t see anyone making decent videos on the T-line. Well I suppose they’ve only just started delivering them. But nonetheless keep on bro. Good stuff

[@charles0414]

I got both P line (M handlebar) and T Line (S bar). Both of them are 4-speed. To be honest, I think they are very similar. I can barely feel any difference when I ride.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Nice! What made you get two bikes?

[@charles0414]

@@BromptonFamilyTime well, I have 50+ Brompton bikes. ;-)

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

@@charles0414 Wow nice. Which one is your favorite? I could use a few more but not 50 lol.

[@bktan2112]

how to you find the seat?, i just collected mine i realize my hip bone doesn't sit well with the size and shape of the saddle. i have to grab a decathalon saddle cushion. I've too notice the tyre have very minimal threading, i nearly skid and fall on mine on wet ground.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏼‍🦲 I prefer my leather saddle but I have no issues with this one so far. It takes me 3 months to get use to and adjust a saddle. The tires are quite different than the Tannus Tires that I use so it will take time to get use to how they perform. I will be more careful on turns and braking until I figure out the tire limits lol.

[@bjoernaltmann]

The complete redesign only applies to the titanium version. The other lines have much smaller changes.

[@wheniroam8333]

I've heard that the S bar is better for smaller people. I'm 5ft 6. Which would you recommend. I don't want to be hunched over like on a road bike.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I am 5'5" and can go both ways. The S bar is sportier. The M bar your back will be upright so it is more comfortable. You should test them out. I would be happy with either.

[@massoud999]

Cool

[@ChritsianBucic]

Nice and interesting review ! 👌🏻

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Thanks! 👍

[@nh64uk78]

Thank you for the weight of the saddle at 204 g - are you able to provide the weight of just the original seat post?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

It weighs 288 grams on my scale.

[@onebicycle3772]

Hi. I do have a question. There is an opening or gap in the top tube on T line. Wondering if water gets thru the inside of the frame, where it will go out? silly question but I know titanium wont rust

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👨🏻‍🦲Hi! I don't see any holes for the water to drain out. There is a hole all the way in the back but it doesn't look like it was designed for draining. I'll ride through a big puddle one day and see how much water I can collect! 🤗

[@onebicycle3772]

@@BromptonFamilyTime Thanks. I hope in the future brompton will think about drainage

[@christopherhwwong]

I noticed you have the Cateye Rapid Mini rear light on your T Line. Did you have to buy a special bracket to fit onto the new Brompton saddle?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

🧑🏼‍🦲It came with the mount that is Brompton specific. us.brompton.com/shop/bike-accessories/cateye-rapid-mini--usb-rear-light?gclid=CjwKCAjwxOCRBhA8EiwA0X8hi-AGy2wTms8u5Ko0seD9DXMhPStA_Q2zgdyZolTvXL35s72O_O2enhoCNskQAvD_BwE

[@tzonmeister]

Great content and interesting!

[@brunoproject1477]

Hello thanks for your channel what is the weight of Tline 4 speed with all titanium change you’ve made ?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I haven't weight it yet. I will have a follow up video out soon with the final weight.

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

You may be able to cut the top of the orange plastic tip off, to be be able to obtain a little more effective thread on the valves? And as I have changed/replaced most bolts and possible loose parts to titanium versions (My superlight is now down to 8,5 kilo and still with mudguards, so I may come close to an original T line, with mudguards!),so I wonder why you haven't just replaced the bolts on the frame, eventually to titanium, to block the holes? Maybe small headless bolts, with no function in this case? Finn. Denmark

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I haven't had a problem with them since. I hope it was just a one time thing.

[@dazocat5566]

I think theres a adapter to that inner tube . I reminds me of a old bike i use to have… i think it was my fixie bike i think..

[@NoZenith]

So the kid seat won't fit because the main tube is too big in diameter? Can you widen the little resting point so it fits?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

🧑🏼‍🦲The diameter is bigger so it won't work. The design requires the end to tuck under the clamp area so widening it won't work

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

As I haven't been able to find a price, I don't know if it's a posibility, but I doubt that I could be able to use 4 gears? During my use I normally use - all my 6 gears, especially to go up very steep hills, and sometimes having to walk, because the gears are too high for the purpose.

[@mackirkpatrick3997]

You are pretty certain the bolts holding calipers on are not titanium and it looks to me as if that is so. (Come on Brompton, why not titanium caliper bolts? OTOH for a safety situation, i.e., brakes, are steel fasteners stronger or required to meet SUV code? I can only guess.) But are the other bolts within and holding the calipers on also ferrous metal? And is there a source for titanium fasteners to replace them? Ti in Singapore only shows fasteners for pre 2018 models that I can see. Can you please help? My wife and I have a Ti Urban and a Ti One and really like them and will add a four or six speed to the One when/if available. Again, thanks!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I've never heard of Brompton using Titanium bolts. I only trust a few companies for bolts. Tiparts Workshop has most of them and I have been buying their stuff for over ten years. You can go to their website and find a dealer that is closest to you.

[@mackirkpatrick3997]

@@BromptonFamilyTime I believe the T Line fasteners are mostly titanium because a magnet is only attracted to the fasteners holding the brake calipers on. (Most stainless steel is not magnetic; however stainless grades 410, 420 & 440 are magnetic but are seldom used.) So T Line fasteners are not ferrous metal, except the caliper fasteners; they might be the stainless grades above, but are most likely titanium IMO.

[@matthewbrian316]

You can tape the holes up with reflective decals from decalshd custom for Bromptons

[@eirikkristine]

Can't you just put back the screws for the fender?

[@railwaystationmaster]

How does the ride compare to a conventional diamond frame bike ?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

🧑🏼‍🦲 It depends on the type of Brompton but over all they ride similar to regular bikes. The average rider will need 3-6 months to get really comfortable with the small wheels.

[@nisornt]

Nice bike !

[@lado2041]

Can you still fit Brompton tool inside tube like regular models? Or? Thanks 👍

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

The T Line has a larger diameter so it won't fit right. I just keep it in my backpack.

[@lado2041]

@@BromptonFamilyTime Thank you!

[@lado2041]

Still enjoying it? I have eyes on it is it worth it? I do have Chapter 3 but will give to my wife and buy T line! Quick verdict?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Definitely worth it in my opinion. I would love to buy a mid bar version next.

[@bobwilliamson5574]

I like your blue crash helmet.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

🧑🏼‍🦲 Thanks! It's made for Citibike by Triple Eight ✌️

[@bluefishblitz9577]

Drool bucket implemented.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

LOL

[@ОлегМалков-э2б]

Hello!What is your height and weight , if not a secret ?Does the frame of a fully titanium Brompton spring strongly when driving ?I have a Brompton H6R and it perfectly takes me out weighing 105 kg + a T-bag weighing up to 13 kg

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

🧑🏼‍🦲 You weigh 105kg? I only weigh 56kg. I'm only 5'5" tall. The T-Line feels much stiffer a Than the superlight. The frame design is much stronger in regards to limiting flexing during riding.

[@ОлегМалков-э2б]

@@BromptonFamilyTime ,Yes , I am a healthy uncle weighing 105 kg and growing under 2 meters !At the same time, I drive a Brompton H6R and also score a front T-bag under 13 kg , can you imagine?I love this bike!) With my weight, won't the frame bend excessively if I buy a T-line?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

@@ОлегМалков-э2б Wow that's great. The T-Line weight limit is 110kg so I am not sure how your weight will affect the bike. It should be fine since the superlight has the same weight limit. You should definitely test ride it. If I see a bigger rider on the T-Line I will ask them for their opinion.

[@railwaystationmaster]

Is it worth the hefty price tag ?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👨🏻‍🦲 It is worth it to me. I ride everyday so I love having a special bike ✌🏼

[@williesurvives1]

I just want to say yes lighter is good but sometimes bad when you sacrifice durability

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Yes definitely. I wouldn't build this bike this way if it was my commuter bike. I use my superlight for my daily work commutes.

[@interestingbiker4368]

I have just got a T Line 4 speed and note that I have the same problem with the dust cap not screwing on the inner tube thread. Did Brompton resolve for you?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I am not sure but I bought a few more tubolito's and it is only one that the cap does not screw on right. I bet it was a bad batch.

[@taylorperdue7376]

Does it come with a front light?

[@Ram-69]

Looks good. I still like my M6R.. 😅

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏼‍🦲 I like all my Brompton equally. I wish I could buy one in every color 🤪

[@Ram-69]

@@BromptonFamilyTime You definitely can..

[@山隹艸彡平268]

@@BromptonFamilyTime I like Brompton. I wish i could buy one...

[@kvblum2007]

Hi. Great review. I have a question. Does the P Line and the other models have the same design improvements and features that have been added to the T Line as described in this video? Where is the best place to purchase the Brompton online? Thank you.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

🧑🏼‍🦲I don't think the P Line is the same since it used the steel frame. The rear triangle has been redesigned only from what I can remember. I haven't looked into it but you can probably ask at a brompton junction.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

If your looking for a specific model you should try different dealers since all the dealers get different stock.

[@kvblum2007]

Thank you for the quick replies

[@wayneyoung2837]

When do I know it’s time to change the frame and handle bar hinge pins on my steel Brompton?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

It depends on each Brompton. It can be from months to years. If you take your bike to a Brompton dealer they can check it if you are concerned. There should be no "wiggle" or movenment when the hinge clamp is engaged.

[@714SNF]

does the P-Line also have the same hinge pin?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

No they are different.

[@angteannmeng]

I ripped the side wall of my Schwable One Black on my P Line Midnite Black and had to replace it with the Tanned Wall type Schwable One But till date i could not find any Schwable One Black around yet There are ppl selling it that was dekit from P Line but sellimg at very high price which i am not willing to pay for.

[@richmondstar4354]

Another good option if you can get one is the Continental Contact….cheaper and roll as good as Schwalbe One…few extra milligrams in weight is not gonna hurt😉

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👨🏻‍🦲Wow Brompton store doesn't offer them? I noticed some maintenance parts take months to get. It's a good idea to stock up on some stuff if you can.

[@daveb3562]

My new P line came with continental Urbal tires out of box. Maybe hard for anyone to get Schwable?

[@motomoto898]

I got my T- line almost a week now 🙈 still in the box 📦 keep dreaming bout it. I have other projects on my road bike. Btw I was wondering what you thought of the JK carbon 600m straight bar.. i see you went with the ti bar

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I like Joseph Kuosac parts. They are surprisingly cheap too. I think the carbon bar would a great upgrade. I chose Titanium because it looks better with my upgrades.

[@JasonHSS]

Is the rear triangle the same as the P line?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Yes, it has the same rear triangle.

[@Bieffe]

You appear to be so happy that u keep smiling in the video. I would too if I have a T-Line. What's ur day job?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I love riding the Super LIght custom too. The Steel one is okay except the weight. I think the Sturmey Archer 3 speed design is nice but heavy. I would like to change it once it wears out.

[@Bieffe]

@@BromptonFamilyTime maybe can try the system by DCCH. Is a P line design. Pretty easy to install and smooth. Direct bolt on with a new wheel set.

[@chnoack]

Nice review. Thanks. But why should a bike be noisy? I don’t get it.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏻Hi, Christian. I asked the same question once to Shu, and he said he simply loves the sound of it. It is like some people love the sound of sports car, and some don't. 😊

[@shukamargolin]

Hello, can this model can be fit with electrical kit?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I have no experience with electric kits, but I bet some kits out there that would work. That would make it a great long distance commuter bike for some.

[@docloco86]

I have a 2 speed and it really wipes me out on my 12 mile commute as it feels slow.... do you find this bike significantly quicker?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Do you have any modifications to the 2 speed? What tires are you using? What's your average speed on your 12 mile commute?

[@docloco86]

@@BromptonFamilyTime I have kojak tyres. Only mods are my brooks saddle, and mini q rear rack. I maybe average 8-9 mph.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

@@docloco86 According to my bike computer I average 10 MPH on first gear and about 13 mph on the 2 gear my flat ride with no hills. I can go much faster if I try but this is my normal speed. 8-9 on the the 2 gear seems slow. The T-Line has a similar gear ratio. Do you feel yourself wanting another gear to go faster? There are many factors that would determine if it would help your speed. Kojaks are fast tires so as long as they are inflated properly that shouldn't be a problem. The only thing I can think of would be to mod your 2 speed to a 3 speed to get a wider gear ratio.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

We ride the 2 speed and T-Line together all the time and the advantage of the T-Line is noticeable but I don't think it would fix your speed problem.

[@docloco86]

I might do this. I do carry 15-20kg on the rack though so maybe it's the load. I weigh 80kg at 6ft1 and my bike is 12kg+ so maybe I need to do the same upgrades (atleast fork, triangle, seatpost, stem and handlebar.

[@nasiralmulhim8472]

Hi sir My name is Nasir from Saudi Arabia Can you send me idea about the price Thanks

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

No idea

[@seductive_Octopus]

In the Beginning, i was skeptical. Though it is just a overpriced P Line but slowly i think the Ti Line is awesome.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏼‍🦲 It is an expensive investment for sure. I have looked at other titanium carbon bikes (Like the No. 22 Little Wing) and it is in comparable price range with other bikes that use similar materials.

[@seductive_Octopus]

@@BromptonFamilyTime 😐the Little Wing looks dope .. But it would not survive my City. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6bJnYlspqamaas My City is like a Mix of NY, Venice, Historic German City from 1930 and 21st Century mixed together. Soo much Cobblestone Streets 😵 .. most People ride MB or City Bikes with spring-suspended Seats because of it. In my City, you need a Brooks B67 if you ride a Brompton. Luckily we got a great Train, Bus and Ferry System + the Brompton. It's the Perfect combo.

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

Why don't just reposition the original bolts in the fork, to keep the holes closed? And, as a "Rainy Dane" I still have my mudguards on my Ligthweight!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

🧑🏼‍🦲 I haven't had time to get plugs but they don't seem to be affected since it is kept indoors 👍🏼

[@DK-ic5uc]

Chedech. There, ive said it. Sweet machine though

[@ivork2373]

How much do the TLine cranks and chainring weigh?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I'll let you know if I remove it. I haven't tried yet.

[@mackirkpatrick3997]

I heard a rumor that Brompton may be coming out with a six, yes 6 speed Titanium model :-)

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

That would be cool for alot of people. The 4 range is great for the city. I can see the need for more gears. Tiparts Workshop just released a 7 speed kit for the P Line already.

[@alannewman85]

What weight is it?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I'll have a final video soon with specs and weight.

[@dastintrombone88]

nice review, could you compare t line with p line?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏻Hi, Dastin Lozynski! We do not own P Line but we have other Bromptons, which are Superlight with Tannus Tyres and regular steel Brompton. So we are planning to do compare those!

[@hobocyclist]

For me its not worth it, but if you live in NYC or London this bike could be your big purchase instead of a car or expensive transport costs.. I would be worried to lock it up outside the supermarket because thieves like to steal this kind of bike also

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Bike theft is always a concern. I have had two bikes stolen which is part of the reason the Brompton became my main bike.

[@kongwell99]

사용중 착탈식 페달추천 부탁 드립니다

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏼‍🦲I am looking for one. I haven't decided yet👍

[@kwokweng76]

did u buy a P line to try yet?

[@jessebarrios6953]

where did u buy the child seat for brompton?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏻Please go to our first video. I think that has the link in the description!

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

Instead of a combined carbon/titanium seatpost, like on this bike, I have bought a special, black and pure titanium post for my Lightweight, with a ring mount for the sadle, and so - wasting the ultra over-complicated (undoubtedly English invented!), Brompton clip, what ever its weight (A similar function, "AceOffix" clip is both lighter and - better than the original!)? I would have liked to try a T-Line, but it has too few gears for my purpose, so I would prefer to just change my old frame into a titanium one, but not being able to get the, several better details on the new bike, or the ultra low weight! But still a Brompton is a tool for special use and not an ultra low weight monster!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

🧑🏼‍🦲The seatpost is carbon & stainless. I like my Brompfication seatpost.

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

@@BromptonFamilyTime I have looked for titanium frames from China, but they are sold as versions for small people and larger ones, as I (184cm and 100 kilo) are advised to buy a stronger and more expensive version. Russia may be able to produce a quality frame from titanium (With a large formerly war-material producing titanium industry), but for now, during an ongoing war in Ukraine, buying anything from Russia will be bad manners indeed.

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

I did also buy an ordinary shape, black, titanium 535 mm standard length seat post, for a test, for my LightweightH6LXBrompton, and it seems to function fine for me, and for about the same price as a standard Brompton post (It should be a test to see if I'm able to use it?)! It makes my bike able to fit my black B&W travel box, during travels.

[@paliaha706]

Your bike is $5000? Five thousand U.S. dollars? I bought a 5 year old used 2015 ti for $2700 during the height of covid. Ive been to Mexico, Peru & Cuba with it. Inevitably I get asked how much it cost. Out of embarrassment & guilt I tell them $500. They shake their heads in disbelief or awe. A Cuban told me that even if he worked 2 years he wouldn't be able to afford my $500 bicycle. I got no problem buying a titanium frame 3sixty if they ever come out with one.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏼‍🦲I always say "these bikes start at $1000 and are made in the UK". I use to say "I only paid $5,000" but most people get angry and walk away ending the conversation 🤣

[@rostiz1386]

How hi a seat post?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I have the standard seatpost but you can order an extended seatpost if your taller.

[@nawwk79]

They should have gone for a stone grind titanium finish

[@jessebarrios6953]

how much is it in US$

[@havenht]

Over price. I can get a highend 20" folding bike for that price.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏼‍🦲 I use to have a Dahon Mu C9 20" folding bike and it was around $900. That bike was fast and awesome, but it didn't fold well. What 20" folding bike costs around $5,000? I haven't kept up with the 20" folding bikes.

[@havenht]

@@BromptonFamilyTime 20" wheel will always ride better than a 16", but none of them will fold as compact as the brompton. I don't care too much about how compact it fold and prefer the ride quality. The TYRELL FSX and Tern verge X20 are both highend folding bike that ride better and a lot cheaper.

[@boredalchemist]

they should have made them like the Brompton titanium clones and kept the original design.

[@mahesh1983]

Dude!! Clean your glasses!

[@effyleven]

"Never used the carrier block," eh? Well, I think there are opinio s here I can manage without! (Click).

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Maybe I will use it in the future to mount a battery. Sho uses it. I just prefer backpacks.