BROS COULDN'T RESIST. Reaction & Vocal ANALYSIS - EPIC: The Musical | Puppeteer & Wouldn't You Like

[@PeterBarber]

Honestly, I'm with Eurylochus -- I think I could take Polyphemus but I wouldn't stance a chance against Circe 😆 Early access to all Epic videos will be available on Patreon!

[@marshayoung9387]

Please do a R&A of Geoff's newest solo cover of Song Of Duran. Keep the subtitles on.

[@ShyyGaladriel]

Exactly this. Odysseus would have been turned into lunch meat if Hermes hadn’t showed up and Eurylochus knew that. They had no idea Hermes was gonna show.

[@Michaellearnsart]

@peterbarber you mean in a fight right????

[@_Lor_313_]

Eurylochus has an higher tone than usual because he is talking as Odissius friend and not as his second in comand, so he is more vulnerable since it’s a less ufficial scenario

[@SantosoWijaya]

@@Michaellearnsartthere are other ways … 😏

[@jonathangaming7510]

The British accent on both Circe and Hermes are actually artificial accents. They are character choices and the voice actors are both American.

[@MammalianCreature]

Impressive

[@moonwatcher4047]

Damn

[@nicco7518]

Yeah, I think it's carying over from before too. Because back when Teagan was pulling double duty as both Athena and Circe, she'd use a British accent for Circe to help differentiate between the two.

[@jonathangaming7510]

Fun fact, the voice actress for Circe and Jorge are actually dating, they met through Epic and are the cutest couple ever.

[@TDLBallistic]

THAT'S SO CUTE?

[@JessieBalls]

Penelope come get yo man he’s dating Circe now

[@ChaoticDoodle]

OMG HAVE YOU SEEN THEM INTERACT IN THIER COMMENTS??? They’re so wholesome!!! 💙

[@larsdewit6521]

​@@JessieBalls _Telegony_ intensifies

[@RudyMystry]

Umm doesnt Circe marry Telemachus after Odys death

[@CrimWare]

Fun fact, that wasn't Hermes belting out during the final chorus of Wouldn't You Like, but rather Odysseus! In the canon of the musical, it's supposed to be how Odysseus is being empowered by the Moly's effects.

[@rymasan5489]

What ? It wasn’t Hermes voice ? Is it confirmed or a speculation ?

[@xivettex3493]

It’s confirmed, in the livestream of the songs, it said it was Odysseus singing in the lyrics

[@darkmega24ify]

It wasn't until recently that I listened closely enough to actually hear that.

[@antisocial_dogmom]

It's been confirmed! Ody got a power up from Hermes so he is belting as it takes affect

[@sashas_buttercup]

Baby's first acid trip ❤

[@laurahart1337]

"I have never heard Hamilton" My first thoughts: Mortius is freaking out somewhere *sees the editor's note and dies of laughter*

[@adamharith782]

Mortius gonna kidnapped him and forced him to watch Hamilton.

[@ashleyfaulkner2367]

“I got so distracted by Hermes being sensual” alas haven’t we all 😂 I always love love love Peter’s reactions to Epic!!!

[@Avana1003]

Some fun facts about Wouldn't You Like and Hermes Why he might be helping: 1. Hermes is also a god of travelers and has trickster/chaos vibes, so he does tend to just give mortals magical stuff to see what happens 2. Ody is Hermes' great grandson 3. Not sure of this one but Hermes and Circe might be ex's Also, the belting at the end is actually Ody and is supposed to represent the Holy Moly kicking in and giving him some god-like power

[@kennethmorgan8795]

Also in The Odyssey (which in this case has become non-canon for Epic) he shows up specifically because Athena sent him to give advice/aid.

[@disableddragonborn]

I'm a Hellenic Pagan, and I have another reason I think he helped. He's the trickster god. He knows chaos is going to ensue, and he wants in on it. 😂

[@WarFlame]

They're not exes in mythology, just in the modern book by Madeline Miller who seems to confused her for Calypso in a bunch of ways.

[@Ominate]

So uhh just giving your great grandson some drugs and seeing what happens-

[@icemagiciangh]

People mentioned in premiere chat, but, yes, that’s Jay. In a livestream where he presented canon visuals, after Odysseus eats the flower it says “Odysseus begins to glow. POWER UP!” Him being able to sing on the same level as a god/belt so high shows the moly taking effect

[@amberx1273]

blue really got high off it 💀

[@adamharith782]

​@@amberx1273Hey, you try taking the same shit your hyper(HIGH AF) great-great-grandfather take.

[@alyssadaniels7841]

Mason gently roasting Peter with his editor comments this whole time is the best 😂

[@ChaoticDoodle]

MASON?? He’s INSANE how does he edit for FOUR CHANNELS

[@MagicMason1000]

@@ChaoticDoodleyea that’s me haha 💪

[@kallandar13]

@@MagicMason1000And we love it! Your comments make these great videos even better and funnier. 😄

[@ChaoticDoodle]

@@MagicMason1000 THE LEGEND??? Thanks for replying! You had a channel? So you manage FIVE channels 😭😭 Respect.

[@VegaTheLyra]

18:50 her eyes go yellow, it's because her dad is Helios, the sun god!

[@arynsinger6811]

The guy who voices Eurylocus actually met Jorge at the Puerto Rican Hamilton auditions - neither got in - but this song really played into that bit of their history, playing to that experience and ability.

[@MasslessPhoton-ii5mk]

I once saw a comment under Wouldn’t you like that went as follows: “Hermes? *Demented Cackling*” That’s the only thing I think of when I hear this song.

[@anitaspam7767]

He’s our favorite psychotic diva❤

[@disableddragonborn]

To this day, one of my favorite details of Epic is making Hermes's motif the lyre. He invented it, then gifted it to Apollo as an apology for stealing from him. He was a kid at the time, too. Apollo got robbed by a kid and accepted an instrument as an apology. 😆

[@CatherinesClaws]

i love eurylochus saying "something that i must get off my *chest* " and flipping to a mixed head voice it's such a funny play on words

[@CyrahLia_459]

I mean, I love it because it makes sense. He wants to get it off his chest, so he goes into head voice

[@thefollower89]

Peter said great casting decision from jay when he chose Talya, man I think that was Jorge’s best decision of his life 😂

[@Kireshva]

33:45 it's a personal headcanon that Circe can actually hear them outside of her palace and decides to vibe with Hermes 😂 like checking out what in Hades these boys are doing in her yard or something lmao

[@garethmorton5620]

Sounds more like the voice of Aphrodite in the latest saga to me. Can't remember her name though, that's going to bug me for a little.

[@anitaspam7767]

@@garethmorton5620 It’s J. Maya😄

[@SamuelRawlinson-yb2ez]

TWO IN ONE??? Peter’s spoiling us with so much combined quality content

[@icemagiciangh]

Starting with beat of ‘Full Speed Ahead’s “we should try to find a way no one ends up dead” always hits

[@crimsonmaverick8237]

Wait I never even considered the song was using the motif of THOSE specific lyrics but it matches so well.

[@icemagiciangh]

@@crimsonmaverick8237 over 500 men gone. Sadly, yes, it does fit 😞

[@RacketEPIC]

Infact, at the beginning of Puppeteer, the Full Speed Ahead motif turns into the Luck Runs Out piano motif

[@jonathankennedy1963]

32:46 - If a regular human character sings, the background vocals are diegetic or are present in the story. If a god character sings, they can summon background vocals out of nowhere at any time.

[@PeterBarber]

I'm aware of this! It's been present throughout the show. But before this, it's always been in the form of a full choir (as far as I can remember), but in this case it's just a few specific voices singing harmonies

[@rivendells_shona]

@@PeterBarber-it definitely sounds like Talya/Circe carrying the feminine harmony to me. Others have suggested it’s Teagan. My suspicion is it would be fully in line with Hermes’ character to conjure Circe’s voice in this moment-both to troll her and further bait Odysseus.

[@philomelamelody1658]

"Wouldn't You Like" has definitely become one of my favorite songs in the whole musical. It's very fun and a totally different vibe from everything else. I'm dancing the entire time and Troy's voice is just incredible. Hermes is a very chaotic god mythologically, so Jorge's songwriting and Troy's portrayal are very cool! You should listen to some of Troy's solo stuff, specifically "Unlucky Lady". It's very funky and it always puts me in a good mood!

[@GHOST-in-the-MACHINE]

Yeah, I can't wait for Dangerous (in the upcoming Vengeance Saga), it's Wouldn't You Like times 10. I'm never gonna get that song out of my head.

[@Majesticskyyy]

26:18 the British like accents were a stylistic choice to make Circe and Hermes sound a bit more ethereal and other worldly 😊 (Jay also gives gods and more powerful characters electronic elements in their instrumentation for similar reasons)

[@nicco7518]

I just know that if Jorge ever watches this he will be delighted that you picked up on him making the backing-vocals for "wouldn't you like a taste of the magic" /crunchy/. In the short he put out about putting that together, along with the effect he referred to it as "crunchy and punchy, like a tootsie roll" (and then started laughing right after because he has a habit on putting on voices when he explains things)

[@clnne]

11:07 "does bro not have a sense of humor" LOL

[@seanchesteralexisexamen5964]

Until this day, we still believe that Hermes didn't know that this is Circe Saga but he will definetly invite you to listen to his saga: Hermes Saga

[@littleg5664]

Troy, the voice of Hermes, does a lot of 70s/80s/vaporwave inspired music. He was an absolute brilliant choice for Hermes!

[@kennethmorgan8795]

I always enjoy Eury going into "Military Cadence"... at least that's what I call it. Also yeah you called it sooo... umm... Eury's right, she can't be killed. Technically she can get heavily disabled but not dead. Edit: If I remember right he shows up and essentially says "Athena says you need some help... so here's the downlow and a gift." Because Hermes loves chaos... one of the few gods that you can safely accept help from. You just have to worry if he also decided to help the other side. Also the most accepted heritage for Ody is that Hermes is his Great Grandfather on the Maternal side.

[@rachelhignett9473]

Not gonna lie, if I'm out and about walking and a song where Eurylochus has a major singing part where his beat kicks in fall in step to the beat that driving behind his voice.

[@amandahibbs3690]

What makes the end even funnier is that Hermes is Odys Great GranDa

[@disableddragonborn]

Movie proposal: Apollo, Dionysus, and Hermes all get absolutely shitfaced, then have to deal with the aftermath of their night of debauchery. "Hangover: Mount Olympus"

[@nerysvanbeurden8434]

Im so glad you noticed the cool harmonizing melodies, that go down while Hermes goes up. it’s one of my favorite music bits in epic!

[@MagicalMedic]

"He is a *seductive* guy, ain't he?" Oh honey.

[@IcePigeon123]

37:03 The drums that you were talking about in the song are the same/similar to the Rick Roll drums. 😂 Which makes sence in a song with Hermes, as he was known as a prankster god. 😅

[@disableddragonborn]

People criticize Eurylochus for wanting to flee, but the thing is, as far as he knew, the men who were turned into pigs were as good as dead. He wanted to protect the rest of the crew, including Odysseus. People act like he took everybody but Odysseus. No, he took a small scouting party. If only Odysseus had stayed behind, everything would be _his_ fault for staying back while his men risk encountering danger. Honestly, had Hermes not shown up, Odysseus's decision to go save them (with no plan whatsoever on how to handle a woman who can turn men into pigs and is a goddess) would've gotten him turned into a pig too, if he didn't get himself killed.

[@G_Rez]

Very happy to see you do 2 songs per video! Really love your analysis of the past few songs. Yes you're pause heavy but the educational value you bring to the table is really great, and i wouldn't want that to change. I get to learn more about the songs i love because of it!

[@amuzik13]

Neither Tayla or Troy are from the UK! But they did a great job with the accents!

[@DarkestNova556]

FUNNY THING! That belting is Odysseus not Hermes. I thought that too at first because somehow Jorge can just sound like his whole crew

[@michaellavella2377]

Looking forward to this one. There are some real :cough: epic bangers in this work, but Circe's songs are just my favorites.

[@disableddragonborn]

33:28 Oh. My. Gods. Jay said that harmony is his favorite part of this saga, and he described it as "crunchy and punchy", so hearing you use the word crunch made my jaw drop.

[@penguin50279]

38:08 this belt is actually Jorge!

[@geosustento8894]

I don't think it is. It sounds like Troy.

[@penguin50279]

@@geosustento8894 nope it’s jorge. he confirmed it on tiktok.

[@amuzik13]

@@geosustento8894Jorge has confirmed it’s Ody! It’s him reaching his “next level” of power from the Moly!

[@geosustento8894]

@@amuzik13 oh ok

[@adamharith782]

​@@geosustento8894Nah bruh, Troy doesn't sound taht, Jay-like.

[@disableddragonborn]

It's fitting that it's tropical house music, considering they're on Aeaea. (I love typing the name of Circe's island.)

[@karma_pup]

Something I JUST figured out with this song (because watching you always has me paying more attention to the beats and the instruments) : If you're familiar with the Final Fantasy series, there's a piano in the background that starts at 30:27 that is very reminiscent of the Final Fantasy piano riff. Not exact but it just plays more into Jorge's love of video games and that he wants his music to make people think similarly. EDIT: Also, fun fact: The belting at the end, with all the WOAAAAH's is actually Ody! Jorge compared it to Ody "leveling up" because he ate the Holy Moly root :)

[@Kaybee025]

39:47 I had to doublecheck cos I thought the kiss sound was from the original soundtrack but it was actually Peter smacking his lips after a drink 😂😂😂 what perfect timing!

[@badhost]

This is coming out just in time for my birthday!! I’m so exciteddd.

[@maryammuhib]

Same! Sept 23 is my birthday. So excited!!

[@area52ron]

Fun fact: Hermes is Odysseus great grandfather Hermes is also a character who gives humans things and expects nothing in return except entertainment

[@rachelhignett9473]

The entertainment is the return gift.

[@CRAZYCLOWNTOWN]

Think of Heremes as the Loki of Greek mythology. He is the trickster God. He his also Odysseus's great-grandfather on his mother's side.

[@michaelforbes5923]

39:39 Not Peter's lip smacking making me think there was an actual kiss sound effect from how perfectly it was timed XD 💜 Seriously though, been absolutely loving your breakdowns of Epic!

[@dorothyrosenberg1301]

Thank you for this detailed analysis. I love every opportunity to hear Epic content. Each song is exceptional. You illustrate why.

[@malenejensen02]

Who is the editor?! I LOVE HIM/HER!!! Edit: You said Mason in the end? The same Mason who does Mortius and Oar sometimes?

[@bobcieslinski]

Congratulations on this huge milestone!

[@disableddragonborn]

Oh my gods. I checked Circe's Wikipedia to refresh my memory on who her parents are (there are two variations) and I saw under "Consorts" both Odysseus AND Telemachus. Obviously, that's not the case in Epic, but I found that funny. Like father, like son. 🤣

[@myku1182]

36:50 Ive heard Jorge says that beat is from the first drums in rick astley's never gonna give you up. So Jalopeño basically rick rolled us

[@KellAnderson]

Its worth remembering Hermes was originally an aspect of Dionysius and split off at some point during the Greek Dark Age. Hermes being unhinged is absolutely in keeping with his origins.

[@RayGainbows]

TWO VIDEOS AT ONCE!? Holy crap. we're eating good today!!! So psyched! Ngl Eurylochus's voice really surprised me in Puppeteer. Like, I honestly didnt care for his singing in Luck Runs Out so i had expected that to be his range. I was dead wrong. Also, im literally here for all your pausing/rewinding, please dont stop. Im musicaly challenged and it helps me understand what youre talking about 😅. Hermes is a trickster too. Like, as an infant, he stole Apollos sheep or cows(i forget) and avoided punishment by making a string instrument as an apology. I forgot your editors name. Feel like you mentioned it once in these epic vids. sorry, but they are cracking me up 🤣 Athena is in triplets when shes pissed, and Poseidon is always in triplets. Thats what Jay says at least. This was a fun vid, i appreciate you.

[@kiratheusagiisworkshop5266]

Wait, Mason? You have the same editor as Mortius? That makes the editor commentary even funnier 😂

[@disableddragonborn]

Right when you were starting "Puppeteer", I got a Garnier commercial. With Circe's beauty being just as useful as her magic, I found that to be a really funny coincidence and a fitting ad. 😂

[@cindygrape]

MASON ZOOM IN? As in Mortius' Mason? Omg I love this Epic reactor cinematic universe moment! I love you Mason ❤️

[@RedFeralWolf]

You know, sometimes people forget how messed up and evil what she does to the men considering she invited them in. Plus the fact she fed them one of the last men who was unlucky enough to end up on her island. All this said her two songs are some of my favorites

[@audreyii6750]

"Wouldnt You Like" is such a bop, definately one i pop on during very short car rides. Hermes is one of my favorite characters solely because of how FUN & full of life he is, his god song is unlike Any other god song in EPIC, he's just a funky lil' dude

[@JdeeGeekyGao]

I did music class (Jazz and rock band as the drummer) and theatre/drama in HS they weren't combined this was in late 90's so when you mentioned 90's nostalgia I got it. in the 00's is when I hit the clubbing scene and like this I would just sit and break down my favorite tracks from the clubs. Elder millennial shenanigans from a music based family. So I only discovered Epic through a tiktok skit from Troy as Hermes Tayla as Circe talking about Tea and how it tasted like a father's approval (nothing was sung) but as someone who grew up with Greek mythology from my mother I thought it was hilarious, then reading the comments realized it was them in Ithaca for the watch party of Epic, and boom here I am watching trained music professionals reacting to it.

[@adamharith782]

33:27 "Thats add soem really crunchy" CRUNCHY AND PUNCHY LIKE TOOTSIE ROOL

[@KaiseaWings]

Odysseus spending the whole animatic deeply _tired_ and not really wanting to start stuff he can't finish with Hermes, and then Hermes pulls the rug out like 'nope! Just getting you to do drugs!'

[@flanny701]

hearing him at 20:00 i cant wait for his reaction to :love in paradise:

[@nicco7518]

So, I just noticed you can hear some of that "We should try to find a way no one ends up dead" at the start there, and then followed by some "how much longer till your luck runs out" after Ody goes "go make sure this island is secure."

[@disableddragonborn]

MORTIUS, STRAP THIS MAN TO A CHAIR AND GET HIM TO WATCH HAMILTON!!!

[@Harr1s0n0]

14:13 Goldmember refrence is a wild pull. Spectacular

[@junkaccount3482]

@28:32 is entirely the reason I love watching your content, your reactions are fantastic lol. And okay, not entirely, you're one of the few musical background reaction channels that actually apply your musical background knowledge to the content you're watching, and I'm all here for it

[@Keshonna]

Hermes is actually oddys great grandfather. Which is why I think he helped with no strings attached.

[@Vervada555]

People who put on a different accent and can still sing, in the accent that isn’t their normal voice. It amazes me…. I absolutely LOVE this saga!

[@disableddragonborn]

The thing about Hamilton is that Lin-Manuel Miranda doesn't put anything in without meaning. He had a few historical mistakes because he forgot about certain things that in the long run aren't entirely relevant to the show, but with the music, everything has meaning, right from the opening music. There's an insane amount of stuff to cover, so as good at noticing musical details as you are, even you won't catch everything. Not to mention the visual details.

[@NimuehNeith]

The number of times Peter has called a guitar a harp and a harp a guitar... :person_facepalming: But in all seriousness, loving the analysis on all of these, really cool to see.

[@EllaPress]

Oh my god, I just realised something. I watched the following reaction first, and Peter was confused about Circe and Ody becoming creatures in that battle. And here, Hermes is literally saying "You'll manifest a being of your creation, all you need's imagination." I'd never made the connection, I feel so dumb 😅 I just thought it was a cool animatic for Done For.

[@dolphin64575]

Is it just me, or are the plucked notes in the intro of Puppeteer the same melody as 'Full Speed Ahead'? I heard the notes and my brain started singing 'Ithaca's waiting... and 600 men can make this whole place burn...'

[@artloveranimation]

8:40 it's still not quite like regular dialogue like in most stage musicals, because it still rhymes with music underneath it so it's not jarring

[@JoseAntonio-uf9ws]

I hope you can also interview Troy the Voice of Hermes. he is a fun guy and I realy love him.

[@Meimoons]

11:30 Takes your shoulders, shakes you and screams for you to react to Hamilton

[@nicco7518]

Oh, a thing I forgot to mention back in "Keep your friends close" that I was reminded of now that you said how good Talia and Teagan are: Jorge specifically advertised all his auditions as "You can audition for any of the roles no matter what gender you are" because he wanted to be absolutely sure that they found the voices he felt could best portray the characters. So Talia, for instance, originally sent in an audition for the role of Zeus. And I believe the singer of Aeolus was on a song (that was later cut) called "let me be your light" where she was voicing Polites (it was prior to the casting for the role). Another example is that I believe the guy voicing Antonious (one of the suitors) originally auditioned for Thiresias but Jorge suggested the other role as he thought that voice would fit better for that role.

[@Shaabun]

FINALLY, I love it when you hear new voices introduced because I always wanna hear your favourites or what you think they do well/ should improve on ❤

[@Vegetafan1997]

The background vocals in that final belt are actually Jorge! He said it's supposed to be the effects of the Moly taking over

[@phoenix_Talaria]

I'd be safe until Hermes...🤷

[@junovzla]

same

[@phoenix_Talaria]

@@junovzla idk what happened but Hermes broke me... Prior to this Hades was probably my fave then Hermes just decided Nope 🤷

[@rishika_ariti]

11:13 "Believe it or not I have never seen...." wHY did I expect him to say "a woman"????? I was waiting for a joke- A PUNCHLINE- and I was ROBBED nwfujia /silly

[@cocopop183]

Another fact about hermes is that hes odysseus' great grandfather

[@Momo_Minomo]

Hermes was DEFINITELY a party god lol. He probably had the most demigod kids out of the entire Olympic pantheon lol. He's pretty much the only true trickster god the Greeks had, as you can probably tell considering he was the god of thieves, merchants, and shepherds all at once. So shepherds would pray to Hermes to keep thieves away from their animals and to get a better deal from the merchants, the merchants would pray to him to cheat the shepherd and stop the thieves, and the thieves would pray to him to get away with stealing from both the shepherd and the merchant. 🤣 He was also the god of travelers, sleep, language, luck, fertility, and music. He's exemplifies the old quote "A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.". He was one of the very few gods to be on good terms with everyone and shared the title of Zeus' favorite kid with Athena so he could get away with pretty much anything!

[@Michaellearnsart]

"damm bro stop pausing so much" Nah I'm kidding, also my favourite singer "Talya spindle "

[@chebikitty5566]

I don't know if this is a purposeful thing in the musical or not but i've noticed the more godly a being the more modern the music, aka more synths

[@Dr.SoloWing]

9:11 Maison (sorry if I I spelled it wrong) spitting facts!

[@RabbitBabbitt]

Wouldn't you like song is such a jam.

[@mathieularregain576]

If I remember well, Hermes is the great grandfather of Odysseus or at least, they're family linked

[@jordanNCM]

This is one of my favorite sagas because of these two vocalists!

[@lauraqwerty_]

Can't wait for you to hear the voice of Calypso 👀♥️ Loving all the video analysis on Epic♥️♥️

[@LittleBirdsSinging]

The actors for Hermes and Circe are both from the US, they're just using accents

[@1mtry1ng_myb3zt]

Ximena is pronounced “hem-in-a”, I believe

[@kathymchugh689]

I so love these!

[@mikaylaanderson2669]

Hermes is also the god of tricksters, so yes he is flirting wiht odysseus

[@rhov-anion]

11:12 - I smell a crossover with Open Arms Reactions.

[@darkmega24ify]

The captions LMAO Is Mason editing for these vids?

[@jenniejesser6969]

I'm with the screaming Mortius, omg SEE HAMILTON!

[@disableddragonborn]

The voices are Hermes using his godly backup vocals power to add some flair.

[@NicolaeHolley]

Two at once? He might actually get current before the next saga drops, if he keeps this up.

[@Kirachan3]

Thank you for doing these, I really enjoy your videos. I can't WAIT for you to get to Thunderbringer and I hope you cover it.

[@shocalremix]

funny you mention Barcelona, at this point in the Odyssey he is not too far from Spain.

[@minnettermoguel995]

Hermes' singer Troy sounds completely different in his own music which is also pretty good, but the best is that Troy has taken on the identity of Hermes and features him in his short videos / tiktoks . XD. best choice of Hermes.