Brother & Sister Murder Trial: Prosecution Closing Argument

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#CourtTV - What do YOU think?

[@michaelbensen43]

Absolute tragedy. They should never have been charged. They most likely can't even care for themselves nonetheless anyone else.

[@trinity2145]

I wish you would’ve showed the whole trial. Ms Shelia suffered. And it’s just disgusting what her kids put her through. Sonja, should have been charged with a lesser charged. No way, she came down and everything was 💯. Jury got it right.

[@tenacious1]

Neglect - Guilty. Murder, not Guilty.

[@tenacious1]

​@@trinity2145 I agree 👍🏿💯% She knew they weren't bathing her etc. There's no way she didn't notice that horrific odor. She played dumb.

[@MsBenitaButrell]

Terrible! It’s obvious that neither defendant has the capacity to care for themselves! Why object to the sister’s testimony about their mental health??? I bet those parents got checks for them, but now we can’t discuss their mental capacity? They lost both parents and now being charged with murder… while the sister runs off in the sunset with her family? I think the father was responsible, but since he’s deceased they pinned it on the children? I’m disgusted! Also, where were the Adult Protective Services reports? Did they turn a blind eye as well? I know they did when I reported the nursing home for neglecting and causing the death of my grand mother! The system is so corrupt! This is wrong!

[@michaelbensen43]

This is probably one of the saddest cases because you can absolutely tell the defendants probably have a hard time even taking care of themselves nonetheless someone else.

[@pambeforethestorm9784]

Very sad case and I agree, these two on trial have or had no ability to properly care for their mother, let alone themselves! Sad case! 😢

[@nilcilarichardson7252]

I agree

[@DemarcusBurse-ku3fz]

I agree this was the dad’s fault

[@Cindiwhite4]

This is a situation where the mom should have been placed in a Nursing Home. These two could not provide adequate care. My guess is that they kept her home to be able to stay in the home & have access to her checks. This is all very sad, the suffering has to be immense. These children were not caregivers. The mom could have received serviced from a home health agency with nursing and personal care. Mom was most likely eligible under Medicaid. The hospital had an obligation to protect Sheila Murray to Adult Protective Services. The two kids are not just the only ones to blame here. The entire system let her down.

[@shirleylecompte9183]

So sad 😢

[@Pushing4wardwithTee]

Whoever did those home visits needs to be investigated asap

[@athenavan2242]

Romans is her last name and she lied lied lied

[@Frostyblu]

I agree 100% 💜

[@michelekacsur2112]

Agree 100%. Only seen every 90 days. That’s absurd. Why didn’t that NP address these bed sores, her ankle , and the filth both on her body and in her surroundings. Her license should be removed.

[@phyllislomax1685]

That's like leaving the mother. Home with. Two 6,and 7 year olds

[@ingridsmith-allen1827]

I agree, these two children themselves need help and care too. Throwing them in jail means nothing. The husband failed her too, he was a law man, and did not get the necessary assistance for her.

[@lizoliver6193]

The father was controlling and refused to pay to put her in a home. These 2 aren't right you can tell they were just following orders. I feel bad. I don't think they should serve life.

[@lumbchops8649]

Yup, prison is not the solution to being sick, poor and black in the United States of America. Why do we accept this ?!

[@childofthemosthighyah8145]

Right, I agree. These two are obviously intellectually disabled. They are taking the blame for their father. Why didn't the father put her in a home knowing she was suffering!!!!

[@keepyourculture]

The other sister is not innocent either. She couldn't lift the blanket and check on her mother? She couldn't smell the house? She should also be tried for negligence, in my opinion.

[@myrnaamado6341]

This is what I'm saying really you go visit your mother and you can't even pull down a sheet to look at her. You didn't see the pain in her eyes. She's responsible.

[@slevrtgah]

@@keepyourculture those two should not be charged ‼️💯

[@bmoenvironmentcommunityfri8277]

Never brought grand kids to see their Grandma? All that

[@Ginarogers33]

She didn’t want the responsibility! Regardless of her having her own family, she could’ve moved her mom in with her! Why would you being the more sensible one in the family, not relieve them of the burden. This hurts my heart! Thee prosecutor should be ashamed and they’re clearly mentally challenged.

[@shelithabreed4238]

I so agree and she could tell allot of other things also

[@alethiathurston2802]

Let's not forget about the person who made the 17 home visits🤔

[@goose7574]

The fact that they aren't being prosecuted is insane! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that these two adults also had special needs. I'm shocked that they were prosecuted...

[@msindiascott92]

@@goose7574 well, its the bible belt, they are african american, and im sure no one did research on them. The sister knew but im sure she didnt want to get "involved".

[@hoped6676]

​@@goose7574Exactly 💯

[@lumbchops8649]

@@msindiascott92 You are exactly right, this is what happens when you are poor, black and sick in the USA. WHY DO WE ACCEPT THIS!?!

[@joycebaker1812]

Anyone can see that these individuals have Mental Problems unable to reason and comprehend What is wrong with the Adult Protective Services who should have protected the Invalid Mom

[@tammieingram4289]

The mother needed to be in a nursing home. The system let her down.

[@mechelle1]

Exactly! She needed an entire medical team who had wound care training as well! They’re all complicit in the lady’s demise

[@slevrtgah]

Exactly

[@deevillarreal9475]

Hell no⚠️ it's not Murder those fragile young one's BS , and a heavy women after 2 strokes?!? Who would have trained them. Criminal it's not criminal. There sister better stick up for them, This Case is Vulture Bullying statements it's not in there capability to have cared for her. Get off this Soap Box! Jury can't convict them .. .

[@tracymeloy5756]

Agree the system let her down

[@Jean-g4d4g]

​@@deevillarreal9475 I don't believe they should be prosecuted for a triple stroke victims death. What was the Doctors prognosis? If they are prosecuted the sister on the stand should be prosecuted also. She was standing on the sidelines as if she didn't care one way or another.

[@Syble]

Sister Sonia should be charged with something because there’s no way that she only smelled urine when she visited. She didn’t remove the sheets to see if her mom was ok ? It takes time for the sore on her back to get to that point . I don’t believe that she was oblivious to how bad her mom was . Forget what Tony said…. Call the paramedics and the police if you saw the condition your mom was in weren’t good , get the state involved. She should be held accountable as well. She’s the most sensible and knew better as well even though she lives in Chattanooga.

[@kelleyflint8207]

Who doesn’t look under sheets to inspect their own mother when you know your mother was not in the best care? If you have any sense, just for peace of mind, CHECK under the sheets.

[@athenavan2242]

​@@kelleyflint8207THE SISTER SONYA MURRAY HENRY that testified against hervown siblings while dodging her own negligence

[@nancydavieau]

The husband/father had to have been aware of this situation

[@vinceh-r3j]

Everyone should be charged yes I agree

[@keepyourculture]

Agreed.

[@catherineseiler7407]

These 2 aren’t right, there is something wrong with both of them

[@angeez82]

They look like they can’t even care for themselves why would anyone think they can care for someone that needs a lot of help ?

[@anissahenderson4823]

Do we know if there's been a psych evaluation done on them?

[@angeez82]

@@anissahenderson4823 idk if they cray cray but they def look 3nuggets short of a 6pc. For sure slow whoever left them in charge needs to be charged.

[@sunshinesunflowers721]

Remember the defense attorney is trying to save his clients from life in prison. He will tell them to start drooling and talking to the sky if he thinks that will help. Thankfully jurors don’t and are not supposed to go by how someone “looks”, “acts” in the courtroom. They go by evidence.

[@lady2550]

Theyre on medication. They were fine adults the other 40 yrs . No problem now

[@sunshinesunflowers721]

The oldest sibling knew the family could not handle this and tried several times to handle care at her house. She is smart enough to call APS, when her dad refused and then after, knowing how inept these two are. She knew her mom was being neglected. If a firefighter said the smell was so strong, to the point of vomiting, there’s no way in hell the sister didn’t realize what was going on. They ALL need to be sentenced with something.

[@yo-rourke3718]

They might be so used to the smell that they might became 👃 blind 👁

[@sunshinesunflowers721]

@@yo-rourke3718 I agree, but what about the sight? Seeing physical injuries? Their mother was literally rotting. The oldest sister would not have been nose blind as she only visited occasionally. She really has zero excuses.

[@yo-rourke3718]

@@sunshinesunflowers721 true

[@shayle62]

Karen , Sonya and Michael. Karen is the oldest sibling.

[@rhondawiggins6756]

She is not as smart as people are giving her credit for because if she were she would have been more aware of the condition of her mother. If they were my siblings I would have definitely removed the covers off my mom while visiting. Most importantly, I would have offered to wash and care for her during my visits.

[@kathleenwoods738]

The oldest sister should have stepped in. The mother should have been sent to a nursing home!

[@keepyourculture]

She is also negligent, and and a terrible daughter. My parents have three girls, and not one of us would ever allow our parents to be in that condition, not even close. I helped care for my husband's grandparents, and they were cleaned multiple times daily and given the best nutrition and had nurses coming in every day to help with bathing and physical therapy. This is unacceptable.

[@sunshinesunflowers721]

They were all negligent! That older sister knew what was up. I have siblings like this in NY. They wanted nothing to do with my parents care. Out of sight out of mind. My dad passed in hospice in 2020 and my mom in a nursing home in 2023. She was to live with us, I knew I couldn’t handle it alone and BEGGED my sister a nurse, my older siblings for help, they didn’t do anything.. My mom ended up catching covid in the nursing home and passed a few days later. I had it set up to speak with a Social Worker to find the very best care for my mom right before she passed.

[@michelletapiadesigns1933]

They couldn’t afford it. 😢

[@tenacious1]

She probably would've been better off there at least physically.

[@tenacious1]

​@@michelletapiadesigns1933 someone in the medical field says the state has facilities no charge but I'm guessing they'd take any social security benefits.

[@denisedomingue571]

The amount of suffering this woman endured is incomprehensible. Sonya was aware that her siblings were incapable of providing the necessary level of care before her discharge from the hospital in 2015. She chose to ignore the horrific neglect Sheila suffered in the following years. A simple phone call to Adult Protective Services could have prevented the abuse this poor woman experienced. Karen and Michael appear to have diminished mental capacities. Shame on Sonya. Her mother deserved better.

[@Deethehiddengem]

In all fairness she did make it known she didn’t agree and offered to take her in. Dad said no. She didn’t visit very often and if no one told her what was going on she may not have known the extent of it. It may have been a very toxic environment and that’s why she left for college and moved away. Those two are not competent adults so Dad expecting them to handle it was not right. I think there’s blame to go around though

[@georgettacarvin7593]

​@Deethehiddengem I think if the father had lived, he would have also been charged

[@margaretbunn1543]

I think their mother had probably begged or insisted that she not go to a nursing facility. She wanted to be at home. I bet the dad wanted her at home too. The kids may have felt torn about what was right. But they tried to do what both parents wanted.

[@mrsmarple8494]

@@Deethehiddengem It was probably lip service knowing that her dad will refuse. And for all we know, nothing proves that she offered her help. She lied through her teeth during her testimonial to save her ass.

[@nicolebrown1927]

She even stayed in a hotel room because she KNEW how messy nasty and disgusting the house was! I think about that too.

[@lindasingh3268]

The sister left 2 disabled grown people knowing how that house was to take care of their sick mother.She could have gotten help for her mother.I don’t think prison would be the solution.

[@gailkirk4024]

Well she did send some ENSURE. That was the extent of help.😢

[@gachagirllol9682]

This is a Shame! The professional person should be investigated. she did not care! She should have call APS. These people need help. Their sister was not involved. She forgot that was her MOTHER.

[@hannahaprent233]

I don't understand why the oldest daughter that went to college is no being prosecuted. All it would have taken was an anonymous call to get help for her mother. The smell in the house was enough to know that her siblings were not able to do the job.

[@nikkid8729]

​@hannahaprent233 A care provider,likely the same one who made multiple visits, would have been sent out again to no avail.

[@deevillarreal9475]

I don't believe she ever offered to take there mother home and care for her, she couldn't even stomach her on a visit.

[@kimhutchins70]

2 people who aren't all there....taking care of their Mom? Shame on the sister that did nothing to help. These 2 can't take care of themselves much less another human being.

[@lashayparker5602]

These two don't have the mental capacity to take care of a cat. The other sister was wrong on so many levels. This is just sad!

[@hoped6676]

😂😂😂😂 for real

[@lumbchops8649]

She is probably poor & struggling too tho! With 3 kids to take care of. The system failed this family and will continue to fail them while they rot away in jail :(

[@romainecoles2259]

I think the family and the system failed her. The older sister should have called adult protected service so they could come out and make the right decision. She knew they couldn’t take care of her . After she had the stroke she should have been in a nursing facility. Dad was old and the siblings could not have cared for her sister to just leave her there is wrong😢

[@jerrithompson3278]

@@lashayparker5602 Very sad, but I stand by the fact, the mother told them to let her die.

[@klaybiggins4040]

At any point in this trial is the other sister confronted on why she didn’t intervene? I haven’t watched the entire proceedings.

[@Nature-ip7db]

These two adult kids look like adult toddlers in court.

[@aivel3973]

You can tell these two are special needs. And those boils will be a pimple for a few days then it turn into an infects puss. Also, these two do not onow what it takes to do in home care as they had no special treatment. I have seen bedsores to the bone in many hospitals and nursing homes. Instead of going after these special needs people who do not have critical thinking skills to research what to do when something happens or even know to research she needs to go after the hospitals where this happens ALL DAY, EVERYDAY!!! The father is the one who forced this situation. And he is dead so they are going after special needs. And the hospitals could have had the social workers keep her in the hospital, but they did not. This os not murder in the first degree. And these two do not have common sense. I dont if the father’s strong personality was too much for these two special needs people but even the daughter out of state could not interfere. So that should tell you something right there.

[@jerrithompson3278]

They look real young. Don't you think something is wrong with that? How old are they? Neither had children? You can tell by the way he plays with his hair something is wrong with him.

[@jerrithompson3278]

The daughter is real remorseful and sad about her mother. He looks incapable of emotions.

[@jerrithompson3278]

They need serious counseling.

[@denisepeake1290]

@@jerrithompson3278 it's unfortunate because they also needed help!

[@TerriaW13]

Why are they charged when it seems like they are mentally challenged? This seems wrong

[@leximari]

What’s wrong is what their mother had to suffer through.

[@michaelbensen43]

As much as I agree, they all suffered. They all needed someone to help them. ​@@leximari

[@piva1358]

If they had been found incompetent, there wouldn't be a trial😮

[@angeliareddick5577]

This is Tennessee. This case would not even be happening except for their skin tone. As to mental incompetence, clearly they both have issues, which is why they were living at home at their ages. I would bet anything there was not one black juror found in Tennessee for this trial. Just the token Prosecutor set on this trial for purposes of an appearance of being fair. I would definitely give to a GOFUNDME to get these 2 better attys. This was not fair at all

[@michaelbensen43]

@@piva1358 if you knew how the system works you wouldn't even bother saying that unless you're trolling

[@deena7155]

They are not CNA's OR Nurses. It shouldn't have never been left in their hands in the FIRST place.

[@glendaking6125]

Agree

[@deena7155]

This shouldn't fall on them. This should fall on the State. They are taking advantage of two emotionally handicapped people. It's to bad the two don't know how to sue.

[@diannetinsley3926]

Oh heck no... Home health visits!!! This agency, supervisor, case manager, visit nurses are also responsible. Should have had elder abuse charges and removal from the home.

[@carolynstarkey8889]

I am no expert - not even close but I really don't think that they deliberately neglected their mother - they are not trained in the medical field. I mean they were probably just overwhelmed and bewildered.

[@kerrilee7131]

This is not murder. This is passing the buck. Those two need help themselves. Karen has trauma tremors, the brother is challenged. The older sister moved way before, set up her life with 3 kids herself, and the system does not care..the medical teams, carers and nurses need to be charged.

[@jahneastanfield2662]

Tenessee evades prosecution for failing to provide medical care, by convicting these mentally challenged siblings. Modern day lynching.

[@mellowyellow9588]

Exactly!! This seems a bit racist. As soon as they mentioned the son having mental health issues they quickly revoked it

[@lindamateri7298]

They aren’t mentally challenged ,,, check out their interrogation videos,,, looks don’t mean they have any disorder other than laziness and being cold hearted and downright evil !!!!!

[@lindamateri7298]

I would suggest that part of their looks is called “ acting “

[@marcia7834]

What about the np why is she not charged?

[@belleblaas3843]

@@summrflowers7253 Did you see the interviews? Please, tell me where I can see them? Because you assume, evaluations are made and they were competent. What I saw, was, that talking about mental issues or even just a personal thing about siblings, prosecutor lady immediately cut that off. Openings: lawyer was cut off. Not allowed. With the sister on the stand, at the end, lawyer tried to ask about brother and prosecutor lady: sidebar. Not allowed. I don't think, it has anything to do with racism. But poor healthcare. How is it possible, for a dad, serving 10 years Navy. Being 26 years a police officer. And still at old age, working as a security gard, that there was no extra help for daughter Karen? To take care of miss Sheila? No church? No neighbors? No community? No friends? No big family to rotate and relieve, these 2, of their duties, since 2015 till 2019? It is just sad and heartbreaking. No racism, because this also happens within white families.

[@JustLooking1228]

Everyone involved, medical personnel, social worker, anyone who visited and the other sister should all be charged.

[@dorothyjames6245]

Declining conditions will happen despite good care. I wouldn't charge them. They followed in their father's foot step. ❤

[@karinlockhart6471]

EVERYONE!!!!!!!!

[@janestrode3299]

Home Healthcare didn't do their job either. Every person responsible for the woman's care dropped the ball and needs to be held accountable. More home visits need to happen in these kinds of situations

[@geanieltarin814]

Why is nobody talking about the father who was there as well or the married daughter? How can anyone expect these two simple kids to look after anyone with their predicament. They cannot call it murder

[@kathyellis6533]

I think he died.

[@mrsshelton226]

I totally agree

[@ziggywalsh5562]

Maybe he had the slow genes too.

[@hedykarim3614]

@@kathyellis6533he died 3 mts after Sheila

[@margaretbunn1543]

They brought up the dad and his part in all this during the testimony. But in the prosecutors closing, she leaves out any blame on the dad. I think it’s because she can’t prosecute a dead person. So she goes hard on the two kids living in the home. It’s making me angrier and angrier as she goes on. I bet she’s never been in this situation. But I bet if she was, no matter what her parents wanted, she would have put her in a facility because she can afford it. She doesn’t have the compassion that is needed to be a caregiver. Not everyone could or should be one.

[@shirleygray3500]

This is not homicide or murder. The nurse practitioner seems more responsible than these kids. She should have done thorough evaluation with each visit. Did the social worker at the nursing home do a home visit to determine if care at home was safe. I think the NP and hospital and nursing home are more responsible than these kids. Did anyone ever offer to get a home care aid for personal care? Why didn’t PT report the lack of care? Did anyone offer a hospital bed with a special mattress for a bed bound patient. I believe this is more on the local healthcare system and the providers than on these children…

[@corinunley4753]

@@shirleygray3500 Is this how the state of Tennessee operates? Shoot, with that many home visits done by all involved, when is their trial date? Who is the mandated reporter? Where is the care and compassion for this woman AND her children!?

[@glendaking6125]

Nurse should of done more to assist this family before it escalated to the level it did. Neglect all around

[@EileenConway-l1q]

They are both in their 40's Not kids. The sister Sonya is just as culpable and deserves jail. No way at all she only saw her mothers head and smelled urine. That house was festering. She is culpable. Awful way to die omg RIP Shelia noone deserves that death. I am haunted at the suffering 😢

[@catherinebida2531]

These kids???? They are in their 40's.. Have lived with their parents all their lives? No jobs? Of course they are mentally defective. What about the other sister? She never noticed the urine stench or pulled down the bed sheet to look at her body? She is also culpable. What about the father? How senile was he?God forbid we should have family like these useless creatures.

[@tayye2736]

​@@shirleygray3500 child yall gotta stop expecting the nurses and doctors to do what yall simply can't and that is look after your family you say you care about.A bedsore to the bone a bed covered In feces you see the son playing with his hair like ....Kids they grown they collected mama and had somewhere to sleep without paying rent..Stop being so green ..That's what's wrong with the world yall don't take accountability it's always everyone else fault why we doomed

[@sillyme1642]

The Judge and State Prosecutor should be ashamed of themselves I don't even know how they sleep at night!!!

[@karinlockhart6471]

Don’t worry!! There is A God they will have to face one day!! Especially that prosecutor!!! She needs some training !!!!

[@user-my7nt5cc6rblock]

I agree. Let them experience caring for somebody around the clock. The sister didn't want to have nothing to do with her mother

[@jenniferamyx78]

The father is the one who made the decisions. Since he died, they made the children the scapegoats. They had no say in whether or not they would have to care for her. Murder in the 1st degree is a ridiculous charge!

[@BobbyEnthusiast]

Exactly!

[@georgettacarvin7593]

I agree that 1st degree murder is insane.

[@AmericanObserver-kq7ye]

THIS DOESN’T SEEM TO BE RIGHT. It seems that the father neglected his wife, and when he died the two siblings continued to neglect their mother. My degrees are in psychology, and from the way that the two siblings appear they appear to be undeveloped, and they might have mental disorders. Karen Murray doesn’t appear 49, and Michael Murray doesn’t appear 43. They should have had psychological evaluations and IQ tests, before being charged with first degree murder, because they do not appear cognitively able to take care of themselves. Hopefully, their lawyers will appeal the verdict, and get them evaluated.

[@nicolerobinson4564]

Exactly

[@supernova44]

Their fault!! All fkn 3 of them

[@isabelrios415]

How can the middle sister say that her mother was ok and being taken care of? Like you smell the urine, you see that the house was filthy, but you don't step in? She's as guilty as Karen and Michael. How can you say it always smelled like urine and find it ok? How can you not care for your mother as well? She needs to be charged as well.

[@2021noname]

She may have grown up in a smelly house

[@LillieBooker]

Oh my God oh my god get the kids a good lawyer a mother is gone on and it's not anything can bring her back these kids didn't know no more than what they did leave me alone best sister if these two people get charged that other sister need to be charged also she knew something was going on and she said nothing

[@leege4257]

I don’t think these two can care for theirselves. They seem “slow”

[@NurseKristin]

That’s exactly what they want you to think…. I live in Johnson City. If you look at their interrogations, you will see that they are 100% mentally capable. They are just playing this up for people to feel sorry for them… end it worked BUT not with the jury. Court TV did not show the entire trial so you’ve missed a lot.

[@49ersfan62]

Fake tears.her pigtails are driving me nuts

[@Shymeen44]

They are not mentally retard!!!!! They knew better!!!! Lock their asses up!!!!

[@Shymeen44]

They are not mentally retard!!!!! They knew better!!!! Lock their asses up!!!!

[@hoped6676]

​​@@49ersfan62 Fake tears and pig tails. This girl is slow what do you expect? We are NOT speaking about a college graduate here. Daww

[@juanax5473]

All 3 siblings should be charged. No way she didn't notice anything....

[@athenavan2242]

Exactly

[@nancydavieau]

and husband/father

[@leximari]

@@nancydavieauunfortunately he passed away

[@caseyconatser7926]

Amen

[@guadalupelazar2384]

ALL THREE SHOULD BE CHARGE I AGREE TOTALLY!

[@mynameiseve.1]

Sorry but if the bad state of the house and the mom were so obviously appalling, why is this Tracy Romans person not being held accountable????

[@sweethoney1977]

Exactly!!!

[@anniebetsy728]

@@mynameiseve.1 because Tracy is trying to keep her job

[@carolynbooker1545]

I agree

[@gwendolynswanson1526]

I agree, she frequent the house but failed to report it!

[@AnastasiaJackson-k4t]

Tracy had a duty to report this to APS. If she holds a license, it should be revoked

[@janedoe09]

What the HELL is wrong with the nurse who did home visits. I used to be a homecare provider, it's The Law for a medical person to Report!!! By what I see, two people who were no way capable of 24/7 care. The Nurse Should Be Charged. And the sister too...could she not smell? could she not lift up a sheet?

[@sweethoney1977]

The prosecutor is making it seem like this happen between April and August and the nurse was last there in March. SMH just sad to say the least.

[@mellowyellow9588]

I don’t believe this was a murder. This is crazy and sad. This could happen to anyone if us. This was dumped on them . This is so messed up

[@lindawhitmore9170]

Yes it is these poor children going to prison so sad the system failed them. 😢😢

[@bethsiler1688]

What a horrible miscarriage of justice--totally unbelievable that these two would even be tried for murder. They are incapable of caring for themselves, let alone another human being. Their very obvious adaptive deficits should have precluded them from being assigned as her caregivers in the first place. They were doing what their father insisted that they do despite not having the skills to take on such an enormous responsibility. The trial was embarrassing and the defense lawyers seemed nonplussed by their clients and/or the case. Very sad outcome and a very sad commentary on the justice system.

[@BobbyEnthusiast]

Thank you! One of the most sound posts I have read.

[@bethsiler1688]

@@BobbyEnthusiast Thank you-it was tough to watch 😞

[@BobbyEnthusiast]

@@bethsiler1688 it was. As a mother of 3 grown children I cried for all. Where was really was the ball dropped? The father was the head. I just battled Cancer and my 22 year old daughter lives with me. She is autistic. I worried about me but worried more that the world would treat her like this!

[@bethsiler1688]

@@BobbyEnthusiast I am sorry to hear of your situation and am wondering why the defendants’ challenges were not revealed-either to or by the attorneys. That would have been crucial information for the jury to consider and may have prevented this case from going to trial at all. Best wishes to you for a complete recovery 🙏

[@lumbchops8649]

Thank you for your clear-eyed comment. It has been very sad to read the lack of compassion in the comments for these brothers and sisters...who are now going to be sent to prison because they committed the crime of being too poor & sick.

[@bdotwalker3574]

Its the playing with his hair for me 🤦🏿 That man is truly mentally incapable of taking care of anyone & the daughter remorse isnt fake they just simply not fit to be caretakers. This is on the state if you ask me someone shouldve intervened, check ups or something. Its more than just them to blame

[@nicolerobinson4564]

I totally agree

[@EileenConway-l1q]

They were not assessed as mentally challenged. The pig tails is a defence trick to play the simple card. They had enough intelligence to do basic care. The sister Sonya needs to be charged and jailed too. Along with every single so called healthcare professional involved with Shelias care. Her suffering was horrendous abominable. The system let her die like that. People need scaking and the sister Sonyas evidence told me she knew and is more culpable than the two pathetic scapegoats. Sonya is more culpable than anyone as she is college educated and stayed at motels becuase of the filth. No way she disnt also turn a blind eye. Omg poor poor Shealia xxzxxx😢

[@boozhipinkwolf-m3q]

@@bdotwalker3574 I'm on my got damn head looking at Afro John Travolta🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@michelleegan5649]

I think it's fair to say they both look like they need some kind of mental care

[@SNG23]

Where can I watch their interviews? I don’t think these 2 are all there. The other sister has some responsibility too.

[@DebraBee]

I too would like to know how to get to watch those interviews…. ??? Lemme me know if you find out how. Thanks!

[@Nature-ip7db]

The prosecutor was trying hard to pin the oldest sister too. But she is more advanced than they are.

[@Roxxie_8]

As a health professional working outside of the United States/ what this case highlights to me is the systemic failure of the health department. When there is no funding to provide adequate resources and education to caregivers, the end result is the death of the most vulnerable in society. May Sheila Murray’s death not be in vain and may another life not be lost because of lack of $ to help support home based care to elderly and disabled individuals.

[@unity72008]

❤❤❤

[@lindawhitmore9170]

How can the blame this on these poor children, the system failed them this is sad. 😢

[@kdgontube]

Were these two given any competency tests? Or Psych evaluations? What did their bedrooms and restrooms look like when Ms Sheila was picked up by EMS/Fire? They have never moved out of their childhood home? Where did these two work? I have so many questions. Maybe I’ve missed something

[@peggyhardman1958]

I have the same questions! Because they seem to be lacking upstairs a bit.

[@bethsiler1688]

I don't think you missed anything, but I totally agree; these are questions that should've been asked and considered during the trial, if not before!

[@bethsiler1688]

I should add that the sister mentioned that the brother had been tested/evaluated at some point, but the lawyers objected and the judge sustained the objection and that was that

[@piva1358]

They used to work. ...

[@piva1358]

​@bethsiler1688 BEFORE

[@whatchaneed2day]

Neither brother and sister had the medical nor mental capacity to take care of their mother. I understand that while the father was still alive, he wanted to keep her at home. Once the father died, the older sister then should have taken her home or placed her in a care facility

[@JustVee-]

I think the father died 2 months after the mother.

[@JustVee-]

And I think the father would have been charged too, if he were still alive.

[@piva1358]

How do you know?????😮

[@whatchaneed2day]

@@piva1358 look at them. Anyway it’s my opinion

[@JustVee-]

@@piva1358 I think the father dying was mentioned in the opening argument. All 3 of them lived with the mom & were responsible for her care. He didn’t call adult protective services when he could see her deteriorating in the home he lived in. Why would he not have been charged?

[@margaretbunn1543]

This prosecutor infuriates me. She is going at them so hardcore. Like they were completely and totally responsible and only them. She isn’t even mentioning the fact that others were also negligent. Neglect - yes. Murder - no.

[@mablehull1058]

This the most heartbreaking thing that in my 60 years of life I've ever seen.Who in there right mind would put this kind of responsibility on them without them being trained to care for her. And that other sister.i can't write what I want to without getting in trouble.

[@fateemahh]

I don't even think they understand, why are they even having a trial under their condition, this too sad..

[@maelynnavrilhavelin6816]

I think the older sister Sonia should have bn charged as well- she must have seen the signs and the foul smell

[@jenniferwilliams1858]

Karen is the older sister.

[@kimmie1957]

I totally agree these 2 look mental someone else had to know

[@rhondawiggins6756]

Absolutely

[@jgirl18515]

Karen and Michael have been "Caretakers" of their mother since 2015. There is evidence that they were capable and did provide care for her in the beginning. But probably after Sonia's last visit on July 4th, Michael and Karen stopped providing basic care. They stopped changing her, stopped bathing her, stopped providing nutrition and hydration. They left her lying on a filthy mattress full of urine and feces. This hasn't been the condition since 2015. It was after July 4th, 2019. Then 5 weeks later she was brought to the hospital and died. The ankle wound had fecal matter in it, that the ICU nurses had to clean out first. This was extreme neglect. It wasn't how they treated her all along.

[@marcia7834]

She is the middle child

[@PattiGarner331]

Did Tracy Romans physically look at Sheila? If so, she should have seen the decline in Sheila and stepped in to have her removed from the home!!

[@lindamyles1449]

If the dad was the only one working why didn't the wife have Medicaid to pay for Nursing care. The daughter that went to college could have done the paperwork for the additional nursing care at home.

[@SheezaPI]

On top of that the two adult kids should have been eligible for disability checks.

[@sweethoney1977]

From the information that Daughter 😊❤️ gave and knowing how the system work if she owned a home, they would’ve had to sell the home first and use that money; then Medicaid would’ve picked up and started paying.

[@korahchase9524]

My heart goes out to the two kids who were unable to take care of their mother,please get care and Mental help for these two children

[@MelanieGraceTV]

They are not children. The sister is 49 and the brother is 43.

[@mariemitchell5469]

@@korahchase9524 yes so true

[@debbiemohekey1509]

@@MelanieGraceTV They look like they have the mentality of children. What about the visiting nurse or social worker or whatever she was ? What training did they get when they took on the care of their mother? Did they even know to turn her every couple of hours? Were they strong enough to turn her and did they have a slidesheet or hoist? They don't look very bright though this case sounds as bad as the young women who melted/rotted into the couch, left there by her parents. Did the oldest sister really have no idea? She must know the capabilities of her siblings.? I don't think anyone can care for a bedbound person without extensive supervised training.

[@tayye2736]

Stop! You get the bedsore from not being touched she layed in old poo like goodness yall so green it's sickening they were lazy and horrible adults who knew better just didn't care!!!!!

[@sherreywurz731]

I just clicked on 2 comment.i watch trial in real.time........jury got this wrong......the whole thing tragic that can't be denied...these two we not capable of taking care of there mother.i really hope this is over turned............

[@KarenT1964]

I feel bad for the defendants . I don’t think they purposefully killed their mother . Michael looks like he definitely has mental issues . He sat there & played with his hair . He already takes medication for his issues . I don’t think Karen purposely did anything either. This case was most certainly overcharged . Neither deserve 51 years in prison .

[@tribehasspoken4038]

Nope

[@cathygarrett5186]

This is sad. Prayers for them all.

[@lady2550]

You're insane. They had tests done and are OK. They choose to sit and play dumb. They are adults.

[@leximari]

Oh they accidentally let their mother rot and suffer? They thought it was just a little boo boo that her bone was sticking out of her leg? Absolutely not. There is NO excuse. It was not an accident. The only person we should feel pity for is Sheila, and others who suffer because of lack of proper medical care

[@petapumpkineater7185]

These two are not murderers

[@alikat1053]

What are they?

[@lindamateri7298]

What would you call them ? Poor souls who didn’t know right from wrong???? They both look like they ate well enough to me and physically fit

[@jacobienbil3798]

You are right. I live in The Netherlands andcI can tell you these 2 persons themselves needed care abd help. Probably these persons not knowing the consequences for not getting proper care. The prosecutor is so wrong about these 2 humans. Here in The Netherlands this mother been placed in care. Netherlands 49:49

[@athenavan2242]

@petapumpkineater7185 no they are not and the people on here saying differently did not watch the trial or know that they been sitting in jail for over 3 years waiting on this bullcrap sentencing, they are poor, have cognitive issues and mentally issues , they can't even take care of themself but was forced to be their mother's caregiver so the sister that testified against them could go on her vacations and this was the fathers decision and he passed away and AFTER HE PASSED AWAY THEY BROUGHT CHARGES AGAINST THEM AFTER, THE STATE IS JUST AS GUILTY IN THIS NEGLECT, WHY DID THE STATE WAIT TIL AFTER HE PASSED TO CHARGE THEM AND WHY DID THE SIT IN JAIL FOR 3 YEARS WHILE THE STATE TOOK THEIR TIME

[@petapumpkineater7185]

@@jacobienbil3798 I've got to move away from here to the Netherlands then... It's a dog eat dog world in America and it's no longer a 1st world country

[@geanieltarin814]

Their mother raised them in a filthy home hence their continuation of the same system.They not murderers

[@gingersnap1552]

Wow One should not speak ill of the victims and the dead. Lord have mercy. 😢

[@Herbie-Went-Bananas-Then-Split]

@@gingersnap1552 they aren't speaking ill of the dead/victim. That information came directly from the middle child, the one that's married with 3 children, who would visit but not stay in the house because of the state of it, saying that the house was typical of when they were growing up, ie unkempt, smelly.

[@gingersnap1552]

@@Herbie-Went-Bananas-Then-Split an unkempt house doesn't explain the condition of the mother. She definitely showed them how to take care of people. They were well feed, clothed and had a roof over their head. Great fried chicken right?

[@Herbie-Went-Bananas-Then-Split]

@@gingersnap1552 There are many other indicators that the mother, due to her morbid obesity, spent much of her time immobile and those, raised in such environments, tend to 'make do' in their situation, especially when it's all they know. Having worked in a field wherein I needed to assess clients for levels of care (once they were referred to us), I would encounter persons who, to the outside world, worked a job, appeared a normally functional individual and yet, whose abode resembled a landfill. We're talking mountains of waste, even bottles of their urine and bags of fecal matter because they could no longer reach their bathroom. Not once did it occur to them to start taking their rubbish out or to clean their bathroom and kitchen. They wore the one suit which was kept pristine for work and which stank of mothballs, When asked why they didn't establish a cleaning/waste removal routine, they'd reply, "That was my mother's job" - she'd been dead 15 years. And when their teeth rotted due to not cleaning them, they simply pulled them out because they didn't have the first clue that they should consult a dentist. There's a great deal more to the Henrys familial dynamics that hasn't been presented and there were others, who had regular visitation/contact who also just accepted the situation for what it was, and they should have faced charges, too. The victim was cruelly let down by a society that simply didn't care enough, nor was she was the only victim either.

[@NurseKristin]

Where are you getting this information? It’s an older home in an older neighborhood (I know because I live here) but filthy, no. PLUS let’s not forget these two 40 year olds can get up and clean the house too. They lived off their parents then ignored their mother when she was no longer useful to them.

[@kimmie1957]

Why no one else charged??

[@lidiamartinez4910]

This case is full of mysteries

[@LVThN_von_Ach]

The fact that they didn't clean her up before calling 911 says a lot.

[@lindameeks9711]

Mental people should not be responsible to take care of anyone! Period! I would have a tough time charging these two, obviously mental. The middle sister KNEW ALL OF THIS!

[@darianpearson4199]

Karen looks like she’s not going to make it through the closing arguments

[@kimmie1957]

This is so sad … omg

[@LeahHerrera-ff2ee]

My mother is my everything and my greatest friend. She gave me life, and for that, I owe her everything. To add to that, she is an excellent mother. What Ms. Sheila underwent was horrendous. However, correct me if I'm wrong, but simply glancing at Karen and Michael, you can tell they have a mental disability. That being said, you cannot expect someone who is mentally handicapped to care for themselves, let alone someone else.

[@piva1358]

They were posing for sympathy

[@lumbchops8649]

@@piva1358 And you are miserable with a severe lack of compassion.

[@Talk2Me7]

The fact these two are on trial is absolutely asinine. Hell they look mentally unstable. This prosecutor need to be disbarred. The system failed her. This is sickening

[@athenavan2242]

Someone needs to do something to assist these 2 individuals, their sister Sonya Murray Henry the competent sister, laid all the blame on them and testified against them. They were forced to be her caretaker and were not mentally or physically able to. Nurse practitioner lies on her visits and said she was a ok.

[@YorkieMallarkeys]

100% agree... That's why that practitioner was so upset, she's not kidding me that all this happened between visits... Both these people have obviously got some form of MH status. Obviously scared to death of army father... still living at home at that age speaks volumes...this lawyer hasn't a clue..." Just changing a diaper"... When my mum past away last year she was double incontinent and had adoema...it took 4 paramedics to get her onto a stretcher.. even though she was slim , he legs were massive!... And even with 4 visits a day from care, she still got bed sores... She started refusing food, because she was so embarrassed of the clean up situation with the nappys... When you're up against a system that will turn a blind eye...and strong headed parents and not got £$600 a day in care...a day! They could only do what they were allowed to do... And as for my aunt....she's an even more tragic story... I prewarned family to get everything documented, because in the event of death... They'd get the blame.... This is the authorities that need investigating... Not 2 untrained challenged souls... Too many without a Braincell or life challenges in these comments... I hope that red haired lawyer can sleep at night... She lists what a person must have to be classed as vulnerable... She's got 2 sat right there!... I can't watch anymore

[@latoyacox3290]

Amen!!! 1000% agree!

[@athenavan2242]

@ToplessBarber333 exactly the closing prosecutor and the opening one for that matter, cold hearted! The closing prosecutor made me angry to listen to she acted more like she was acting for the cameras in the court room, tearing this two individuals down that obviously cared for their mother and never had a choice to leave her side, the father was worried about losing the home and the two siblings being homeless if something happened to him, well sir I hate to tell you, you failed these two miserable, and the daughter you thought would do right by them Sonya Murray Henry well yeah she testified against them, portraying herself to be unaware of any issues weeks before hand AINT NO WAY IN HELL she didn't know if she was at that house in July! She is the lowest of the low. I hope she begs God for forgiveness because she should be serving a life sentence for first degree murder not these two. I hope she enjoys her lavish life on her vacations, yeah she was in NYC living it up taking selfies week before she testified to send her brother and sister to prison

[@hotandspicy1227]

But did she really testify against them? Yes I know she was the prosecutor witness, but what did the sister say wrong bout them? Even the questions that was asked the sister didn't reply with anything wrong against them.

[@athenavan2242]

@hotandspicy1227 she should have showed the nurse practitioner lied about her condition, she had the authority to override the fathers decision if she would have stated she was not being properly cared for she lied about, the sister testified for the prosecution to save her own ass. They have been sitting in jail for over three years with continuation after continuation for 3 freaking years, ask the sister if she ever once visited them in jail, try to raise their bail money, put any money on their books, no she hasn't done anything but be glad she ain't got to deal with them just like her mother.

[@anitacrawford-carter6515]

Where are competency reports for Michael and Karen? It clearly shows that they are not competent to care for themselves or anyone else!! From the looks of it, they both have no idea of what’s going on and why they are being punished!!! The middle sister was very well aware of the condition of their mother, she knew the filthy condition of the home because she lived in it prior to moving away, and she knew for a fact that her father, brother , & sister was in no way capable of taking care of the mother!! She saw it all but did NOTHING AT ALL!! She threw her siblings under the bus to get the heat off of her!!! Also their father was the authoritarian of the home, therefore Karen & Michael were basically forced to try to take care of their mom but not having a clue of how to take care of their mother or themselves!! This court case is so wrong on all levels!!

[@victoriacarson7541]

I don't understand how not one prosecutor can tell that there's something mentally displaced with each defendant. This makes me sad😢.

[@shellybeck6522]

This is a tragedy on every level. These 2 dont appear to be mentally capable. They both seem to have had a fear of their father. He called the shots and was probably primary caregiver. Her own children should have deemed not mentally strong enough to stand trial. Their mother was let down by everyone in her family and the State of TN

[@rosafrieson]

Everybody including the state should be held responsible. 1st and far most Ms Sheila should have been under a doctor's care. Did she have doctor appts? 2. The sister who was married came and looked at her mom in bed? She never assisted with feeding, changing diapers/ bed linen, feeding??? She never lifted the sheets to take a look... Her mother was rotting...it doesn't make sense. The nurse just stopped coming?? Ms Sheila didn't have follow up appts for doctor visits ? The medical professionals failed Ms Sheila as well.

[@musutomp9162]

A mother can take care of six children but the children could not take care of one mother.

[@msslwl]

You should not have anything to comment because your stupid is showing. They couldn't mentally take care of themselves.

[@cynthialogan5158]

Is it just me or can the justice system not clearly see the two defendants have some sort of mental health issue. They weren't capable of caring gir their mother. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME on the state for prosecuting them. May God have mercy on them and make the jury see threw the prosecuting attorneys! 🙏

[@sweethoney1977]

Yes they can see it, but they don’t care. Prison is a billion dollar business. I’ll just leave it there. If they care they would give them help not prison.

[@amandachrist387]

The breast situation alone is just awful

[@BigMeek5]

I think this family had major secrets. We can only speculate on what role the father played in neglecting his wife’s health, the power and control he likely held within the household for at least 40 plus years. There is a reason why the middle daughter, Sonya, didn’t return home after leaving for college. It looks like she wanted to forget growing up in the family home. I don’t buy the fried chicken story one bit. If the house was always messy, what was going on with the parents? Dad was a police officer, did Sheila ever work? The family was likely viewed as outcasts. Sheila might’ve had some mental health issues, the entire family might’ve been victims of domestic violence or some unfair power dynamic. Michael and Karen look beat down. They are obviously victims as well. Where are their advocates? What about members of the community? Other perspectives on the family situation needed to be explored.

[@doriscrumpton7887]

This happens in the nursing home, so how 🤔 are they supposed to know to care for a bedridden person

[@krissmith8411]

This is horrible that this happened. The middle sister KNEW what was going on and did nothing. This happens alot im sure, maybe not resulting in death, but it goes on all over the world 😢

[@MrPotterb33]

How can they care for someone that needs constant care when they can't take care of themselves, making the other sister just as guilty

[@memefirst8151]

After the father passed away, why didn’t the oldest step in. She’s at fault too. She never even helped change or clean her when she did visit

[@dakitaford588]

She said she is not the oldest

[@kathymitchell4501]

Sonia said she could stay in the house because of the smell. But it was good enough for her mom? That's so wrong. She should have done something 😢

[@debra6741]

An elderly woman was left to rot away with excruciating pain for a long period of time. The sister who testified should have called the authorities to have her mother taken to a place where she would get the care she needed. This is shameful.

[@meredithallen4647]

Where are the interrogations? The prosecutor is referring to them and I have yet to see them released here.

[@DebraBee]

I’d like to know this too. There’s only been bits and pieces of this trial on KZbin. I like to watch the whole trial when I watch trial.

[@karenharrison5867]

Considering she chose to stay at a hotel when she visited? Apparently, she had some knowledge of what was going on and chose to ignore what was really going on?

[@nancydavieau]

They wanted her Social Security check every month There are Nursing Homes & Rehabs for a reason ! You have to wonder about her diet / water intake. Someone must have dropped her (compound fracture)

[@ethelmcclyde6499]

Thank you for stating the true. The state also pay caregivers at least $8/hr about 600- 1200 per month.

[@hedykarim3614]

The father was still alive he controlled the money

[@cynthiajones6013]

If the mother didn’t work, outside of the home. How would she qualify for Social Security or Medicare…Those are not an automatic for seniors.? Her husband being a 36 yr retired police officer…May have only received a pension & not social security benefits, Some police officers didn’t pay into Social Security.

[@amandachrist387]

Social security goes to the spouse.

[@cynthiajones6013]

@@amandachrist387 Only if, the spouse Paid into Social Security. Edwin “Tony” Murray, was a 26 or 36 year retired police officer, All police departments do not take out social security taxes, they have Pensions, Health Insurance & possibly another fund, for needy retirees. If that retired officer, worked another job prior to, or after retirement & gained enough credits, then they would qualify for social security benefits.

[@artbysanders907]

I had a bed bound mother in law. I went to visit her. I saw that she had used the bathroom on herself, I could smell it. There were three adults in the house when I arrived to visit. I was irritated with her family members for not cleaning my mother in law. I asked them why. Their excuse was they were praying for a nurse to stop by. I told them it was their responsibility to care for her. Lol...my mother in law did not like me, I didn't care about that. I immediately began preping and cleaning my mother in law. I made the family help. I cleaned her bedding and treated her the way I did my infants. I let my husband move back home with his mother for a few weeks and I checked in every day. We have to care for our elders.

[@wroffinwroffer6713]

I have been a caregiver my whole life (40 yrs) and when their mother was in the nursing home a social worker should have stepped in and found medical services for this family that would have been paid for and provided the care she needed. Michael and Karen are definitely mentally challenged and should not have been held responsible for the overwhelming care their mother needed. These children, because that is what they are even at their age, had no idea how to care for their mother. Their sister should have stepped in and taken charge to find the intensive care her mother needed. Her father could not provide this level of care either. Why do you think Michael and Karen have shown no reaction to what is happening to them being tried and convicted ? They are not mentally capable of realizing how or why they are in this situation. These children, and that is what they are, mentally challenged, do not need 51 years in prison, but need mental health treatment. I hope their lawyers and a social worker step up and do what is right for Michael and Karen. ❤😇🙏❤️😇🙏❤️

[@johannachilders2319]

I agree completely! Why wasn’t a social worker or home health worker involved with this case? The family CLEARLY were in over their heads! It’s just so pitiful and sad. Mrs Shelia’s children had no business trying to take care of their mom, but I don’t believe that sending them to prison is the right answer. Neither one of them are dealing with a full deck. It’s just heartbreaking on every side. 😢

[@SheezaPI]

Well at least they will be housed and fed and clothed in better conditions than they lived in before, in prison. They’ll have stability they’ve evidently never had. Sure it sounds scary but they’ve already lived in a scary situation all their lives. Been unpaid caregivers their father made them into. Nobody trained them to be nurses. Even the health aide failed to properly care.

[@johannachilders2319]

@@SheezaPI truth! That’s definitely a more positive way to look at it 😞 It’s still sad, though

[@lumbchops8649]

@@johannachilders2319 I don't think its positive to surmise that PRISON IS A SOLUTION to this horrific problem of GOVERNMENT FAILURE at EVERY LEVEL. The state prosecutes them for neglect so they don't bear the responsibility and get prosecuted themselves.

[@catherineseiler7407]

I really feel sorry for these 2, the father and sister should have jumped in

[@49ersfan62]

Stop

[@pip5391]

You are gullible.

[@de3239]

She know somthing wrong with them you can look at them. This Lawyer is just trying to make a name for herself

[@rebeccaseals4668]

No

[@pip5391]

Yes! I think you’re correct! The attorney is responsible for the abuse and neglect of their mother! Why didn’t I think of that! Pathetic reasoning.

[@diedraware5949]

Our judicial system is unfair in this case; the state should be on trial, along with the out-of-town sister! I was shocked (in my opinion) by the sister who would visit and 'observe,' knowing her brother and sister were not capable of taking care of their Mom; with the miasma of urine and feces that permeated her room, and she didn't think to sanitize her Mom's room or pull the covers back to see if she hadn't been changed or the sheets, or if she needed a bath, or hire someone to come in and clean, especially her Mom's room. We could see that the brother and sister have some type of mental illness, and she knew it! What sisterly neglect! Their Mom was not verbal- she talked through her eyes; the stable sister didn't talk to her to watch how her Mom looked at her - that's right, she stayed in a hotel. She visited her Mom as if she was in a hospital or a nursing facility. I wanted them to ask, 'Did you ever think to pull the blanket down or off to observe her condition?' To see that one of her breasts was stuck under her armpit to remove it! I pray this case goes to the highest courts! May the Mom RIP

[@berean65]

Those 2 siblings don't look right. They weren't mentally or physically capable of being caregivers to begin with. The father should have known better than that. Also, the home visit person should have went and checked on the patient. Others were also to blame for the neglect that was strewn upon the victim. Shame on all of them!

[@aidadiaz4433]

The oldest sister should be held responsible she was out of the home knew what was going on and in a better position to at least report it .but she turned a blind eye she knew the siblings couldn't take care of her they seem to have issues themselves..she should be held accountable

[@marcia7834]

She is the middle child

[@YardyBritishfamily]

I find this very racist!! these people need help . I don't believe they intended to harm their mom. Is it because they are black and the state is looking to give their blame on these people because they refused to give them the support they needed .

[@helencirignano2622]

Disgusting how the elderly are treated and disregarded in this country. Humans are so disappointing when it comes to kindness,even from their own children. They probably wanted the money that a 24hr care facility would cost them if the residents money or insurance

[@nicolebrown1927]

Humans disappoint every time! GOD is the only one who won't disappoint.🙏🏽

[@ShamyiaWilliams-mz5tu]

Now u know they ain't have money nor the parents if they did the dad wouldn't be working at 71 cmon now

[@lockout999]

They are mentally ill they have developement delays themselves can't you see. Are you blind both of them have disability. Both need help themselves

[@andreamoore7002]

You can tell they are not highly functioning adults. They lived in the same filth so it's kinda hard to think that would do differently if they lived that way themselves all of theirlife. I think it was moreso the dad's influence.

[@happytimes1149]

I have strong feelings about this case because my grandmother weighed 300 pounds plus and my mother and my two aunts took care of her day in & day out alone!!! They moved her, They changed her. They fed her. They did everything that these people should have done.

[@pcm802]

As a nurse, I can look at Karen and Michael and tell that they were not capable of taking care of their mother. They may have known that their mother needed complete care but it appears that they were incapable to give the care. If the home care nurse would have reported these conditions to adult protective services immediately of the lack of care the mother received. The adult protective services would have had the mother removed by court order. These defendants appear to be incapable of providing any assistance or care! They may be aware of a need but I know they didn’t completely understand all what was required of them. I think that the defendants should be evaluated for mental challenges, they were given tasks that they clearly couldn’t handle😢

[@Pagewithpurpose]

What's the point of having 3 children if at the end of your life you're treated worse than a dog?? No point.

[@Shymeen44]

That's why it's important, to love and care for your children.

[@hoped6676]

​@@Shymeen44So they can mistreat you in the end. Did you read the other comment properly?

[@lumbchops8649]

@@hoped6676 You must be blind. Read every other comment here. They were MENTALLY ILL and POOR. Get a grip.

[@OneLaw214]

Tortured and neglected like Timmy by Shandra Van Ark. The level of human cruelty is astounding.

[@Kbrown2018]

Crazy comparison! The 2 cases are nothing alike

[@piva1358]

Agree... VanDerArk is craycray too, is that an excuse?

[@piva1358]

​@@Kbrown2018 the cases are exactly the same

[@lumbchops8649]

@@piva1358 All your comments are stupid as hell.

[@limabeanzmilligan8079]

It sounds like this should also be the father and the nurse that was seeing the patient.. That nurse should've been inform the social services about the neglect. SO ALL OF THEM ARE RESPONSIBLE....NOT REALLY PUTTING THE BLAME ON THESE TWO ADULT KIDS.

[@ConnieHudson-ib2vs]

Not only son and daughter had or have been charged Everyone should have some kind of charges : social worker caseworker 3rd daughter deceased father

[@kimmie1957]

How did no one else see this? Or smell it? That women suffered & was tortured

[@MeMe-JJ143KM]

This poor lady was failed by so many people, not only her children but her husband and the entire Healthcare system!!!! All of these issues don't happen overnight, so how this by pass educated Healthcare workers who saw her for appointments

[@geraldinecowie7941]

Why didn't social services step in, it's ok to blame the kids as old as they are. This is shocking, why didn't social services supply regular care as the family couldn't care for her. Someone needs to be questioned. Copout

[@kaiisselewis]

How and why are they trying to hold mentally challenged adults accountable for this I’m soooo confused???

[@dorishenderson7417]

Would the husband not receive medical care for him and his wife from his time as a police officer?

[@pip5391]

Not to mention a pension and social security. They were not impoverished. The father worked his entire life. Now they did have two lazy adult offspring, who leeched off of them. Supposedly, they had both had jobs, off and on. Evidently, they don’t have a strong work ethic. There’s a good chance they had a decent amount of government (taxpayers)benefits, coming to the house. And I’m not referring to the mom and dad. I’m speaking of the two able bodied adults, who committed this horrific neglect.

[@thunderdrop8362]

The prosecutor should know that them two mental challenges. The prosecutor should be a shame of herself charging them two with murder. The oldest sister seem like she in her right mind.

[@ronelschoeman7628]

Such a tragic case😢

[@smileyperez6514]

They look so different than their mug shots. Everybody plays a fool .. sometime.

[@jeandobbs5674]

PLEASE, THE SON DOESN’T WHAT THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT … THE LAWYER IS HAVING A SUPER TIME WITH CASE. SHE KNOWS BOTH SON N DAUGHTER HAVE MENTAL ISSUES. MS. ROMAN DIDN’T DO HER JOB . SHE WITNESS TWO UNEDUCATED SIBLINGS DOING WHAT THEY COULD. THE DAUGHTER OUT OF THE HOME HAD IT EASY. IN THE SUBURB WITH HER FAMILY VISITING MOM WHEN SHE FELT GUILTY.. BOTH SON N DAUGHTER WERE THE SCAPEGOAT. SENDING THEM TO PRISON IS CRIME. THE SYSTEM NATURALLY FAULTS THE MENTAL KIDS N NOT THE OTHER DAUGHTER, CASEWORKER,TRACEY ROMAN , THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO HELP IF THEY REALLY CARE FOR SHELIA. (MOTHER) THEY WERE THERE N THEY FELT HOPELESS.