A WORTHY KING! - Overlord Season 4 Episode 8 Reaction

[@Anthyrion]

7:40 Don't forget: As their former punishment, the members of the 8 fingers were eaten from inside out by cockroaches. And everytime, they were about to die, they were healed to full health. Since then, Hilma can not even eat solid food anymore

[@givenfingers]

which is also why the look so frail

[@sinisterdragoon04]

not just Hilma, many of them can't eat solid food

[@Kharyza]

baptism.

[@juggnautbitch]

She regains her appetite and is able to eat solid food once again after her meeting with ainz and her body returns to normal.

[@Anthyrion]

@@juggnautbitch Good for her. 🙂 That means, she will be a much more efficient asset for Nazarick

[@eriksvoboda6973]

Just a little clarification: The seals on the declaration don't all mean an alliance, in case of Dragon Kingdom(1), it simply means the Sorcerous Kingdom(2) has informed them(1) about what happened and they(1) acknowledge their(2) war against Re Estize Kingdom as a valid one, meaning they(1) won't interfere. It's just a bit of international politics, but a nice showing that Sorcerous Kingdom is a player on that level.

[@romanpyatibratov4361]

speaking about validity of this war. It's not just some food, that was stolen by Zanac. It was emergency food supplies for Holy Kingdom, that's currently under attack of Jaldabaoth. So by stealing these food supplies - Re-estize kingdom basically blockades Holy Kingdom from valuable humanitarian help. Which is a massive crime. Obviously Ainz didnt intended it like that. Nor did Demiurge or Albedo. But it turned out to be a valid and a legal reason for declaration of war.

[@Scarabswarm]

It's lovely politicking. Essentially saying "Hey, we already went to everyone you might call on for aid against us, and they all intend to stand by and watch us burn you to the ground."

[@-Apoptos-]

​@@romanpyatibratov4361formerly. This takes place after Ainz solved that problem

[@saipam2]

@@romanpyatibratov4361 Phillip also torned and burned down the Sorcerer's Kingdom Flags , which is basically a humillation and a genuine declaration of war per se.

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

think in later book mentioned they sent them some death knights to help, shame as they skipped alot of stuff even in the books but is only mentioned.

[@filipvadas7602]

1. The members of the 8 Fingers were all eaten inside out by Kyouhokou and then healed, Hilma being the first and being so traumatised that she can't eat solid food anymore. The silver lining though is that these once haineois ctiminals who spent most of their time trying to outscheme each other and make the lives of others miserable, are 100% rehibilitated and are now dedicated to making sure noone goes through something like that again. This is also why Hilma was so moved and wanted to devote herself to serving Ains. She saw that he wasn't a sadistic monster, but rather a pretty fair and reasonable ruler. He saw that she wasn't at fault, so he didn't punish her. It was as simple as that. 2. The anime skipped an arc involving the Holy Kingdom, which will be in the movie, but the convoy that Phillip attacked, while minor, was intended as supplies to help them recover. Which is part if why so many neughbouring countries and the leading figure of a brand new religion recognised it as legitimate provocation on the Kingdom's part. 3. Something the anime only lightly showed is that the 3 smartest people on the continent ( Albedo, Demiurge and Renner) were all *speechless* . Zanac even taking note on how his sister almost looked human in her genuinely suprised expression. Ains was literally the only one who could believe that someone could actually do somethimg that thoughtless. It just goes to show that you can be the smartest person in the world and account for seemingly every possibility. But *nothing* can prepare you for an act of pure brainrotting stupidity.

[@-Apoptos-]

Kyouhoukou's family, he couldnt fit in them Renner was baffled because the declaration of war wasnt part of her approved plan

[@saitamaheroforfun4957]

​@@-Apoptos-In the beginning (the conversation between zanac and renner),did the anime mistranslated holy kingdom as theocracy?

[@-Apoptos-]

@@saitamaheroforfun4957 yeah. Pretty sure they did it another time too

[@saitamaheroforfun4957]

@@-Apoptos- oh ok,thanks for the clarification 👍

[@nuxxism]

This is exactly the problem with the current king - he is far too deferential to the nobles. Yes, he's trying to stop any sort of coup happening, but it also means he will never be able to make the truly important decisions - the whole reason he is there - without the nobles all agreeing first, and they never will. Which also makes his offer - his head - pointless, because it's not a punishment for the stupidity Philip did. The nobles will still be too big for their boots.

[@Shamelesscritique1]

Yeah he needed to grow some balls and be more of a tyrant...the nobles are essentially miopic self important bullies, he needed to call their bluff and put them in their place...make it clear he wasn't afraid of rebellion...and he should have done that a long time ago when he had the kingdom's strongest warrior.

[@sanctamachina]

A monarch was only ever as strong as their nobles & church were not. While the nobility and church was essential to the ruling of feudal kingdoms, they were also the greatest threat to the monarch. So it only makes sense that the king does not feel that he has the power necessary to enforce his will without leading to a civil war. Zanac himself remarks upon this.

[@Shamelesscritique1]

@@sanctamachina Tell that to henry the 8th...and various other "strong" tyrannical kings throughout history...the truth is he's a weak submissive placating old man who values "peace" too much and the hostile empire doesn't help his passive mindset towards his vassels. If he wasn't so honourable then all out conflict and civil war wouldn't be the inevitable scenario and response to being more firm handed as a ruler...if he had half a brain he'd have spies everywhere and use assassin or other underhanded strategies to ruin and disgrace the most problematic nobles, playing them against one another for example...and he'd use fear and intimidation to dominate the weaker and opportunistic ones who simply follow the strong...if the young emperor jirkniv can put his house in order and keep it in order then so could this weak and feeble old man. Shit he could just have a dinner party and invite every momber of the noble faction...then have them all poisoned or slaughtered by his personal guard...he's really got no excuse and no one to blame but himself for the pitiful state of his kingdom...nice guys finish last and it's impossible for a good man to be a great king.

[@darkrite9000]

@@sanctamachina Yup this is exactly right. The King obviously can't force the nobles to do anything as they're too powerful, the power of the kingdom isn't centralized enough for him to enforce his will. The Baharuth Empire has more centralized power, it was the constant pushing that Jircniv did that allowed him to hold most of the power in his nation and enforce his will unhindered. So since they cannot be certain if the noble is being controlled to do that attack, the King doesn't want to condemn a potentially innocent man to death. The best he could think of is to offer an apology and his head because that'd bear a lot of weight in theory. If the Re-estize kingdom was given more time before Ainz made his move to announce himself to the world. It's possible that the King might have gained enough power to start making changes. But the issue is that if his firstborn son took the throne then it'd be all for nothing. Zanac is the best option because he does want to improve the kingdom. He's practical and isn't opposed to things that might be controversial. But it'd take too long for the Kingdom to reach a more stable and centralized power state. The Empire would likely have conquered them before they could truly achieve this. With the situation as it currently is, the Empire is still fine because of the how Jircniv handled things leading up to becoming a vassal state. The Re-estize Kingdom on the other hand is spiraling down, and is basically doomed to fall, the only thing they can do is wait for it to happen. Phillip basically just sped things up, so yeah, sucks to be them.

[@MrOrdosan]

Hilma experienced the terrifying power of "gap moe": that tough gangster adopting a lost kitten. the king of a country,known for being happy to throw blame on those below, and an undead,known for just hating living beings, being understandable and fair in his judgement.

[@920215Gurra]

9:00 Shalltear proving she is the best Guardian! saving Ains in his time of need

[@bokeronenjoyer]

They did something weird with this second part of season 4, they skipped the holy kingdom arc (they are making a movie for this arc), which are vol 12 and 13 of the visual novel.. so its a bit confusing, its normal to not know who the faceless one is or get confused with some of the things they say..

[@macmac277]

Understandable tho. The HK arc has way more explicit scenes than the arcs in S4. If they did put it in they'd have to either cut a lot of those scenes out making it worse or age rate up the anime which would end up putting the show at a midnight or so watch time and that isn't good for most shows. Let alone that the rest of the seasons didn't need to do that either. At least in movie form, they're free to show all the gore the book has since they will PG17-18 it!

[@bokeronenjoyer]

@@macmac277 yes, when I was reading it I thought how much darker was compared to the rest arcs, babies and little kids as meatshields? damn

[@chrisk3127]

@@macmac277 overlord is already tv MA though?

[@panglima4832]

Holy kingdom so gory as fck cannot wait to see in cinema

[@medhurst4]

@@bokeronenjoyer not to mention how the HK leader dies

[@jaredhipfnner1262]

One thing that was left out that gives context to why Ainz is declaring war is that they discussed in that meeting within Nazarick the potential of foreign interference from both the Council State and Slane Theocracy if they don't move on this now. So that was factored into the decision to declare war and destroy the kingdom now while they have the chance before allowing foreign intervention by waiting.

[@Zooppp-lv8sx]

the Holy kingdom is just between you two on the map, the south piece of land

[@seynoonrae2474]

Because the king is not a good one. Remember slavery and killing peasants was normal for nobility before Renner made him outlaw slavery. War was also the royalty and nobility going around towns and villages and forcefully conscripting the commoners until they had roughly 3-4 times as many soldiers as their enemies and basically regardless how many of those they lost they would call it a win. Afterwards they just forced the survivors to work harder to make up for the los in workforce. The reason the theocracy decided to Gazef was not because they disliked him. They are the ones preventing humans from going extinct and they deemed the state of the kingdom incurable, so they wanted to accelerate the fall and have it taken over by the empire.

[@hansolav5924]

The King produced a daughter. the lack of mental stimulation for her stupendous intellect created 'The Golden Princess' as we know her. One wonders if growing up around dullards created Moriarty, too. :P

[@saksenaajipp2261]

carrot and stick is leading someone towards where you want them to go using bait (something like that) candy and whip is letting them know the sweet taste of reward and the bitter taste of punishment. they uses both in the translation but i think it's supposed to be the "candy and whip" only.

[@blackzero786]

Huh wonder what kind of cash crops Phillip would've been able to make if he had a squad of 48 undead created by Ainz to serve as the work force behind the crop generation. For example if the amount of money that was required for renting the 48 undead for a month was enough for the profit generated that could've been a useful way of thinking. Ainz' usage of Domination to gather information probably had more of an unintended side effect without Ainz even thinking about it.

[@ZeddyDJ]

The Faceless One will be in the Holy Kingdom Arc they skip in this season and will be in the movie

[@unknownsample4801]

which is a shame that its a movie and not its own season cause there is so much they will miss trying to compact it into one movie.

[@givenfingers]

i thought faceless was just 8fingers

[@ZeddyDJ]

@@unknownsample4801 Yeah it's unfortunate to be a movie. I hope they do it well because it's my favourite arc.

[@bokeronenjoyer]

@@ZeddyDJ its a very dark arc so i guess it needs to be in a movie

[@michi6486]

​@@ZeddyDJconsidering how gory, violent and explicit that arc was there is no way they would put it in an otherwise fairly tame anime...

[@TiagoRodrigues-oz4qs]

King has a good heart, but only this is not enough.

[@Timmycoo]

I hate that they made Zanac to be this asshole of a prince but he's actually pretty good. I think it would be so rough being in a state of power and only getting told what you heard from people on the front lines.

[@romanpyatibratov4361]

not only that - Zanac was asking his father to grow not food, but something more valuable. Like cotton or.. cannabis? The sorts to be used in making the ropes, clothes and etc. If his father would've done that - his house wouldnt be in this situation, where Sorcerer King outperforms their food sellings. Edit: i messed up names. And this whole comment is irrelevant. I meant Phillip

[@Timmycoo]

@@romanpyatibratov4361 Zanac was a symbol of the changing of eras where his dad was refusing to accept that.

[@-Apoptos-]

Thats the point, break your expectations by introducing him as a typical snob to show that he was right all along

[@-Apoptos-]

​@@romanpyatibratov4361when? Are you thinking of Philip? Re-Estize needed to produce food since they knew a famine was coming

[@gh3ttoduCanada]

Hilma prefers Ainz's carrot than Albedo's stick

[@BrothersYeo]

👀

[@grip3939]

They skipped the Holy Kingdom to make it a movie

[@soyaa96]

Ive always wanted to watch anime with a loving girlfriend.. turns out what i need is to watch my fav animes with a bro and now I have TWO!

[@gancadoesntknowwhattoputhe7383]

BTW the will be a movie that takes place in the middle of s4, it got delayed so it feels like a timeskip after it. (A little after these episodes)

[@Madly_Zen]

I loved this season and was glad they released it, but it really would’ve made more sense for anime only watchers if they released the first part of season 4, then the movie, then finished season 4 with this. The holy kingdom and faceless one are gonna be addressed in the upcoming movie, and you’d really only understand why the HOLY kingdom would be backing an undead if you’ve read volume 12 and 13 (until the movie releases)

[@aaronzaugg9040]

I can’t wait for all their recollections of his words to be recorded; The Gospel According to Demiurge would be dry but the most accurate. The Gospel According to Shalltear more poetic.

[@kinglanze6174]

Great video as always 🔥

[@梓誠]

Worthy King is for both king，Ainz take responsible of Hilma，Kingdom‘s king take responsible of Philip

[@Dan_Jado]

The holy kingdom arc is the movie, with my favourite character Neia Baraja, but since is a movie lenght arc, I don't she will be properly develop.

[@T.xvii.17]

2:58 progressive, democratic, and egalitarian. i heard a zen master say, we'll see.

[@BrothersYeo]

For the time.

[@darkcarnage9188]

oh that demon is way worst then you know lol.

[@DpNemo]

this season skipped the holly kingdom arc, "Facelles" is fro said arc. it will be adapted in a movie

[@marmarcr7683]

Let's gooooo!

[@jannis11]

Naice

[@markrobertshaw886]

Do you guys even sleep

[@Azazel_65]

First

[@garius5851]

Third