Browning A5 friction ring setup and why they fail to cycle

How to set up Browning A5 friction rings and why the fail to eject.

[@MrBigjay98]

I recently fell in love with the A5 Art. I shot my first light 12 in November of 2017 and I've been on an A5 buying kick ever since. I even buy new parts on eBay whenever I see them lol. Truly thee greatest shotgun I've ever shot imo. And you sir are a pleasure to watch and learn from. I watch every one of your videos. Keep up the great work!

[@tonywestbrook6436]

Art's my favorite Browning guru. He knows these guns like no other. Good luck collecting!! If you get your hands on a 28 or 410 Belgium, grab it quick. They're the hardest to find.

[@paulv8133]

My uncle's A5 he handed down to me was hanging up on me, I followed your instructions and honest to god, shot a limit of Dove with it today, no issues whatsoever. Thank you!!!

[@deputyja1]

Best gun ever made. I have 11 of them

[@oldskoolhunting]

The most useful video I’ve seen for my auto 5.... thank you very very much!!!

[@savage22bolt32]

Awesome. Great explanation. My neighbor just inherited one and asked me for some help with it. Although I never liked the looks of that "humpback", now I want one because I love the engineering that went into it. oh no, not another one on the wish list !!!

[@dalelong8001]

Thank You, Art for all your wonderful videos and tips. You are truly a wealth of knowledge.

[@Vtwin60]

Thank you very much for taking the time to show all the different settings and explaining how it operates. I've recently inherited my grandfather's 1973 magnum auto 5 and before I try to shoot it I want to learn everything about it beforehand.

[@lopez7676]

Dad just gave me his Browning 69 Magnum Twenty A5. Restored by Rangemaster Doug Jones. This video answered so many questions for me. Dad had all the rings that came with it as well as the original manual. Thank you for this video!

[@ericjohnson8482]

I love my magnum 20, mine is a round knob though. My dad's magnum 12 came with bear grease to lube the magazine tube. I also have a E grade Remington model 11 made in 1906. Love all of them and all shoot to this day like new. Nothing compares to them either.

[@valleyridgesimmentals8969]

I have two 20 magnums that are round knob, one may have been changed but the other I'm positive it was originally assembled with the the round knob stock, it all matches to well to be a change and the wear is all the same on the gun, I talked to a guy with a lot of browning back ground knowledge who said there is a likely hood that there were several round knob stocks still in the inventory after 66, I also know some 20 mags stock and forearms were replaced with some nice mahogany looking wood that they had from the Japanese plant which included round knob stocks.

[@adamtarbaux7769]

Its nice to see that browning has brought back the humpback with the inertia system. I have both a new a5 and a 69 12 mag auto 5 and love both.

[@richardperry4115]

chalk and cheese mate .

[@Bayan1905]

I recently ran across a shop that got in a bunch of A5's from the same person who was no longer able to shoot, he had a pair of Sweet 16's, one a 50's gun, another a 60's gun and the third gun was a pre-Sweet 16 made in 1929. Only reason I didn't buy that gun is because it was still 2 9/16" and someone added a recoil pad (and I am not a fan of the safety in front of the trigger guard). The 1950's gun though is just a gorgeous gun and if I can wrangle the cash I hope it's still there. I had a couple of older Belgian 12 gauges years back but I like smaller gauges to hunt squirrel and grouse with.

[@Antlers68]

I would really like to have seen a close up of the properly set rings .

[@TheAlectv]

You can find graphs on the browning website displaying how to set your rings

[@deputyja1]

Bevel always goes to bevel and the flat goes to flat

[@Citizen-pg8eu]

At 6:05, Art said for the heavy loads, put the friction ring bevel up, and the bronze ring bevel up?? I thought is was supposed to be bevel to bevel, as deputyj said.

[@deputyja1]

@@Citizen-pg8eu it is. Bevel goes up because the barrel is also beveled.

[@mechcavandy986]

Good info here. I’ve got a newer A5 and a 1950s Light 20. I’m gonna try Turkey hunting with my Light 20 with heavy loads. I’m gonna put some Harley Davidson motor oil on it and go for it. 🦃🦃

[@arkangel7j]

great info mr art , good video overall , but i would recommend zooming in close on the rings at different settings so we can see up close exactly which way the rings fit ... and good choice on motor oil , rem oil , wd40 and such and many gun oils are just too thin and wont stay long , i use a light grease on receiver rails and a thick(er) type motor oil or even light gear oil to lube tubes and such

[@valleyridgesimmentals8969]

Thanks Art, I learned something, the oil thing, Great to have your knowledge available.

[@daveincanada8]

Fired my new to me a5 light twelve. It's a 67, and isn't cycling well with light loads. Thank you for this video, I hope to get mine dialed in over the weekend. May just be dry on the bronze against the tube. And I should probably get a new recoil spring. Compared to my pump action 12g the a5 feels like a 20g. I absolutely love the feel and fit of the a5.

[@williamreape4326]

Thank you for the information. I have trouble getting my barrel on. Now I know to check the spring. That's going to help me more than ever. Thanks

[@thetazman6]

Thank you so much… my son just took his great grandfathers sweetsixteen out to shoot for first time. Grandpa passed in Sept Thing hung up but I am sure you advice to oil magazine tube will fix it … grandpa kept them in great order so I am sure that was issue Super instruction

[@johnkertzman3520]

Thanks just bought my first Auto 5. Its a magnum 12 with the 32inc barrel and it thankfully had all the rings! I am going to by new springs for it and screw driver set Brownells offers. None of rhe screws are messed up so I dought it was ever taken apart so I want the right tools before I attemt to clean and replace springs. Thanks for the informative videos!

[@AA-fg3wj]

I have the same gun. How do I set the rings for a 3" magnum load? Exactly how many rings is this model supposed to have? Thank you!

[@kradikt666]

Awesome informative video just acquired a Yamamoto copy it occasionally jammmed will have to try these solutions

[@mayhem13007]

Hi Art, thank you for this video. But i have a question, what power represents a light load and a heavy load? Above and below 34gr? Thank you for your help.

[@danschneider9921]

I did this with my grandfathers light 12 made in 1950. I shoot target and very basic pheasant loads. Set it for heavy and it runs both. Like he said if it isn't broken don't fix it

[@hulado]

great video. thanks. i dont own an a5 but i do own some guns. ive been using hornady one shot cleaner for a few years and in my experience it is without a doubt the best way to clean a weapon that i have ever used. and ive been cleaning them since the nineteen-fifties. im thinking that if you take that sweet magnum 20ga, set it up for the mag loads after you have cleaned it with the oneshot that it will fire the light loads all day long. i would triple treat the tube the first time you do it. ps im a big fan of syn motor oil also.

[@Adamu98]

I have a 12 ga 3 in auto 5. I figured out that if I use a standard spring with the original rings. I can shoot light 2 3/4 trap loads all day long with no issue.

[@Farmer-bh3cg]

I'm late to the picnic here but a quick question if I may. Is there a measurement for the recoil spring on an A5 Light 12 before it's considered collapsed? I have two A5s (I have two granddaughters...) and want to be sure I keep them both in good shape. Thanks for your help!

[@cjw2560]

Goodmorning. I'm texting from central SD. Your videos are a wealth of knowledge. Do you have any about the a5 that require pushing the round button to load the magazine? And specifically retrofitting it where you can speed load.

[@jimbobdrg3247]

Very helpful - was just about to take my A5 to the gunsmith, but the shotgun is like new, and hardly ever been fired. It doesn't seem to auto load. I will give this a try. What weight motor oil do you use typically?

[@VicsYard]

Just cleaned mine up. Oiled. Gotta go test out. I’ll have to check the spring. Thanks for tip... Vic

[@johnwunder3521]

thank you ,thank you ...for much info...... inherted my dads light 12 belgium & my neighbor gave me a mag 12 belgium (2 springs on mag tube)both old duck guns 1950/1960s..i will replace recoil spring on both, possibly more.

[@Dickeythorsen]

THANK YOU!! I enjoy watching and learning from you gentleman and look forward to every new video. Thank you again for taking the time to make these vids and sharing your expertise. Art you are a Prince :)

[@brianmahan7912]

Thank you so much I had the same problem after watching your video I have fixed it thanks again

[@adam8642]

Great Video, would you recommend the oil on the mag tube as a fix on the franchi 48 al with similar issues?

[@obsidianblackhorse5589]

You need to be a genius to take one of those all the way apart to clean it. Many, many pieces.

[@rathernotsay8185]

Great advice from a professional

[@TrojanEMT]

Hey I got an A5 and when fired, the bolt and barrel do not go all the way back and the shell is not ejected. The barrel and bolt stay stuck and has to be pryed apart. Any idea what's going on?

[@oldschoolron8602]

Great video and customer service also.

[@edgarmorales5164]

AN EXCELLENT EXPLANATION!!! THANK´S A LOT

[@Texashogmeister]

Best loads for the 12 gauge 3 inch chamber? Turkey hunting purposes..

[@gutbucket260]

Deadliest pogo stick ever invented.

[@geneschulp5072]

Thank you. That is great information. I have been looking at them for awhile. I am going to purchase one Monday that I found with both barrels, Slug and shot. I now know what to look for. Where can I purchase a new spring and rings?

[@5000loto]

Browning sells them. I just replaced springs and rings on my 1930 16 ga (2 9/16)

[@bigB6flyer]

I’ve found w mine if you have the rings set like Art says & lubed, it cycles fine as long as you keep the shot load at or above 1oz.

[@deniswestover9425]

Hi I just inherited an old A5 somewhere between 1903 and 1920 it's got a very early serial number My question is I just tore it down to clean it up and reblue it and everything but I have two friction rings it's a 12 gauge I have two friction rings and then the bronze ring do you know why that is

[@SJKile]

I have a question, I have a Browning A5 Sweet 16 that I’ve owned for at least 20 years. I got it out to shoot, after it had been sitting in my gun safe for almost that long. To my credit, I did have it in a silicone impregnated sack. To make a long story short, I can’t get the nut off the fore end to take it apart. I’ve only used my hands, but what is the absolute best way to get a stuck nut off without damaging it or the shotgun, using tools an average person would have?

[@gutbucket260]

Wrap the magazine cap with leather and use channel lock pliers.

[@SJKile]

gutbucket Thanks, I will try that.

[@matthewciardelli1717]

Dont ever use vise grips

[@matthewciardelli1717]

Push the barrel down And unscrew the cap

[@johnm1004]

May i ask how this discussion might change with a Sweet Sixteen?

[@Rykydog]

Art, how do I get ahold of you? I have an A-5 from 1924 that I want to get some work done on.

[@toddallingham1647]

Thanks for the informative video, I just subscribed!

[@ramiroisram]

Whats the proper ring settings for a browning light 12 equipped with a cutts compensator? Just picked on up and I’m curious as to the ring settings

[@sartainja]

Great video. There is always issues with those ring settings.

[@Daddy53751]

Is there anything that one would need to know about the 1920’s Belgians?

[@jamesmchattie4528]

Very well done. Thanks

[@rdwhite65]

ThankYou, Fixed my problem 👍👍

[@sameoldmphymel]

great instructional video

[@pawpatina]

I like this dude.

[@dano1956]

Thank you

[@rickmansberger4136]

Hello Sir I heard synthetic oil on the magazine tube, but what weight and brand do you use? Two drops and how often? @ Thank you Rick Mansberger

[@cforbes54]

Rick Mansberger Did you ever figure out the best method here?

[@deputyja1]

I run synthetic diesel oil on mine. Brand doesn't matter and they literally always work

[@wahadmanyak8138]

what happens if there is no friction ring?

[@SheDevilsGarage]

I have this same problem with a Remington 16 gauge semi auto

[@kd5ozy]

I havce a Belgium light 12 that I am going to sell in very nice condition. What should I ask for it? It has two bbls, full and modified

[@matthewciardelli1717]

James skippinhopper 500+

[@danogle9927]

Well the recoil spring on the A5 work on the Remmington model 11 ?

[@bosstube9046]

I just got my first light 12 I've got mag 12's and standard 20's but this is my first light 12 it is cycling 1 1/8 oz 1200 fps dove loads on the heavy setting is this normal

[@bosstube9046]

And the recoil is what I'd call excessive it's worse than my mag 12 set up on the light setting with 1 1/4 oz 1300 fps loads

[@dangerousfreedom4965]

Great vid, thank you

[@Airsoftforall]

The Widowmaker! I have one and it hangs on the wall as it will randomly slam fire. Nothing like haveing 4+1 and fire the first round and the next 4 slam fire!

[@kuiperroerdink1670]

That would be scary...makes me never want to shoot my light 12 ever again lol

[@carsonhollis581]

I’ve never seen nor heard of an a5 slam firing in my life and I’ve only ever hunted with a5’s my whole life

[@702bigman]

@@carsonhollis581 I've never heard of this happening either, Dad has had his since the late 60"s, I still shoot his gun and mine as well. Never a problem.

[@karlditt]

Do you use synthetic motor oil on the blued part of the gun like the receiver and barrel. I have been using Rem Oil. What weight synthetic motor oil do you use? Would Mobil one work? Would synthetic oil have an effect on the wood?

[@ArtIsaacson]

Hello Karl, Rem oil is good for cleaning the outside, but you need something like motor oil on the parts that have metal on metal contact. Synthetic works just fine. Thanks for watching.

[@matthewciardelli1717]

Karl Dittman bad idea

[@deputyja1]

I use diesel synthetic oil on my internals and it's always worked regardless of weather and how many rounds

[@elliotnewell]

was recently shooting oz 1/8 loads and it wasn't cycling.. any tips?

[@geraldswain3259]

Yes,use it to grow your runner beans up!.

[@thefirefox-bx3mx]

Can a 3inch magnum 12ga recoil spring be used in a 12 gauge 2 and 3/4 A5. Asap

[@knuckle_dragger]

thefirefox819222 try it & see, shouldn't hurt it

[@brasstacksboxing409]

nice gun, but doesn't hold a candle to my 72' Belgium made sweet 16..... they just don't make em' like they used to.....

[@chrischiampo7647]

Subbed You Art 😎😀😀👍🏼

[@nightvan4427]

what you want to say Sir? zoom on parts shoot with every condition

[@tcdahn7]

I took a group out for sporting clays the other day and one guy had an A5 that would not cycle.

[@googletaqiyya184]

Ring setup the same with and without the 2 shot plug ? If different then why the failure to mention. Not as if you ever loaded more than 3 rounds...thanks for nothin

[@ArtIsaacson]

The plug makes no difference on the ring setting.

[@Jolly56Roger]

You need some ear defenders for the dog

[@tstan9713]

DOG: Who are you talking to bro

[@almondsnackbar4969]

He actually get to the ring settings at 6:00 minutes.

[@ametkarakus7859]

What ever you make..sometimes this typ of guns fails..

[@j.t.patton7820]

Poor Drake didn't have his muffs haha.

[@lochlan241]

That poor dogs ear's

[@hungry1011]

"The biggest reason A5's fail to eject is a dry magazine tube." He added two drops of synthetic motor oil under the friction rings.

[@briangura4490]

3 inch mags, 3 inch mags....

[@Hollywood41642]

Dog dont care ...

[@Hollywood41642]

Toss that thing in the garbage and buy a SBE II. Light 2.75 target loads to heavy 3.5 loads just pull the trigger it dont care..

[@lanceviott9885]

Get the dog out of the video and zoom in on the friction bushing. We can't see a thing.

[@gregcameron9907]

Omg to much Yankee talking