Bruce Wayne meets Dr. Edward Nygma | Batman Forever

[@gokuo64]

I really like that Bruce Wayne actually gave him a chance and took the time to listen to him. He didn't reject his idea because he thought he was crazy. He did it because he knew it could be dangerous.

[@benspagnuolo7653]

Bruce really can't call anyone crazy since hes pretty insane himself 😂

[@MohammadAliKhalil]

Ben Spagnuolo what do you mean?

[@benspagnuolo7653]

@@MohammadAliKhalil Bruce is crazy? Lol

[@MohammadAliKhalil]

Ben Spagnuolo is he tho?

[@benspagnuolo7653]

@@MohammadAliKhalil I mean he dresses as a bat and beats criminals senseless definitely not the traits of a sane man

[@KayKwasa]

If you think about it, this was heartwarming on Bruce Wayne's part. Bruce Wayne was being fair with E. Nygma(despite the obviously mental instability); he gave him a chance to prove himself and he genuinely listened, and when he rejected the idea, he told Nygma why he rejected the offer and it was a reasonable one because he was concerned of the negative implications.

[@iamdevilboy5976]

That’s true, it was a question of ethics

[@iamdevilboy5976]

Wayne was taking precautions, Nygma’s invention was very dangerous.

[@ghett0bla5t]

“Too many questions” was a total BS answer btw. The guy who’s trying to manipulate and even bully the most successful company in Gotham to run according to his own wishes wants to build a mind machine. There are no questions, it’s got “FUCK NO” written all over it! 😆

[@snoopymochi562]

I find Val Kilmer’s Bruce Wayne to be the most approachable and considerate. He was respectful and careful with his words when he turned down Riddler’s idea.

[@rayblack2004]

I thought he was being a jerk, he should have just put a trial forward, stating that it had potential but should be closely scrutinized, or better yet, he should have said he would oversee trials personally

[@myztik5716]

And if it kills or lobotomizes someone immediately? He can't just go into a human trial blind. He needs to see the schematics and see what it's doing first. Not a jerk at all, you're basically complaining about someone asking to do a background check on a stranger before letting them rent in their house, 'overseeing' isn't enough when by then it's too late

[@seferino]

He was pleasant.

[@TheCoffeeNut711]

It doesnt make for a good cover. A playboy hedonistic bruce makes the idea that he is Batman impossible

[@alin9727]

@@myztik5716 Agreed. Bruce was right to ask for schematics first and reacted as nicely as he could have when Nygma demanded an immediate answer. Of course, given Nygma's incredible insecurity, I'm inclined to say that wasn't very nice, but that was all he could have done at that exact moment.

[@austinj.decareaux8830]

I'm really glad they wrote the scene to show Bruce's compassion and patience with people even if they're like Nygma. When I was a kid I felt so bad for Nygma here, but seeing how Bruce treated him made me love Batman even more.

[@thenoirknight5729]

I agree 100% agree. I always love when they show Bruce Wayne's kinder and compassionate side. Never really been much of a fan of the rich jerk persona

[@gago12335]

Nygma balls

[@monkeybounceereborn4909]

@@gago12335 lmao

[@darrenthetuber743]

I'm really glad Ed has a bobble head of the villain he hasn't even become yet, and I thought the Ghostbusters theme song being cannon in Ghostbusters 2 was odd

[@dekippiesip]

I mean Nygma is basically the autistic genius here who isn't understood. There are a lot of people like this, especially in technical jobs. They blow their own chances because of their quirks and inability to conduct themselves socially in a way most people consider 'legitimate'. The sad part is that companies end up losing valuable talent while these people get depressed and have their talents wasted. And in this case that manifested itself in lashing out against society.

[@lowqualityedits6265]

Fun fact: Paul Dano’s riddler wears the same glasses as Jim Carrey’s riddler

[@JA432123]

That’s a fun little thing I didn’t notice before

[@ToatsMcGoats534]

they're unfortunately a different design actually but yeah they're both wearing translucent plastic glasses.

[@ryanv650]

Holy shit.

[@user-vk5rs2ez4e]

Similar but are not the same edition

[@michaelnoga3737]

@@user-vk5rs2ez4e is that a Justice League Unlimited reference?

[@ZyxthePest]

I never realized this as a kid, but Bruce totally offers him a chance to prove himself and Nygma blows it. I always thought he was just fucking around with him, but the only minor road block is Bruce telling him to set up an appointment.

[@patrickl6987]

Yea exactly. Like who would tell their company CEO no to a meeting and force them to decide on the spot. But then again Nygma was crazy so it kinda makes sense.

[@paulgentili1425]

@@patrickl6987 well stickly also had him on a leash, so he was fairly desperate, but if he waited and set up that appointment maybe things would have been different.

[@jordanmc9015]

Yup. No one is going to greenlight a brain manipulating device without you know, research

[@Cheddar_Wizard]

@@patrickl6987 But knowing him, he was probably used to people brushing him off by saying “speak with my assistant/secretary” then proceeds to tell said assistant to block his number. He wanted a yes right on the spot so he could hold Bruce accountable.

[@coppertopv365]

A chance is better then no chance.. Do the research, make the appointment.. But noooo... demand a Answer from the Boss.. without any other information to present.. Could be useful to rehabilitate criminals and the mentally disturbed

[@ezj8262]

That intro animation looks so outdated now, it used to look so realistic when I was young.

[@a.b.sproductionsllc]

Ezra John The campy acting is dated too. Kinda sad because this was when Batman films weren’t complicated to follow.

[@ezj8262]

I wasn't a fan of Adam West's campy Batman portrayal or George Clooney's, but for some people, they think that West was the original, (so to them) portraying the character this way would be more true to the character (at least from what they know). But Batman did not begin with Adam West in the 60's, but was played years earlier by men like Lewis Wilson and Robert Lowery. The character was based on serious characters like detectives and heroes: the Shadow, Wes Roland's "The Bat," ...etc... With Batman Forever, I see the villains being campy and the protagonists playing their roles more seriously.

[@a.b.sproductionsllc]

Ezra John George Clooney to me wasn’t great as Batman. Michael Keaton in my opinion was the best Bruce Wayne. It’s good he did the film twice. I’m not a fan of anything Batman after 1997.

[@a.b.sproductionsllc]

black panther Yes, it’s actually a fictional looking city, and the most recent Joker film is set to do filming in Jersey City, NJ. 🙄

[@istinkofpoobut5602]

black panther Totally agree with that, Gotham City looked pretty terrible in the dark knight movies. Simply boring.

[@CaioH.]

*I like how Val Kilmer's Bruce Wayne is so thoughtful. He listens to Edward even when he could just ignore him. This film is very underrated.*

[@gustavgnoettgen]

*Your comment is so well visible!*

[@TacticalProjectGaming]

I love this dreamy vibe of Gotham. I don't know how to describe it, but even the sky was purple

[@stuartwalker8755]

It was a genuine attempt I think to turn make the comic into a film, rather than a film based on the comic. Just look at 2:42, the shot out the window is literally just a drawing.

[@greenmuso]

@@stuartwalker8755 a lot of backgrounds in films back then are high quality paintings. I love em.

[@stuartwalker8755]

@@greenmuso Right, but they are not often so clearly drawings as in this case. It doesn't even try to look photorealistic.

[@MarkWhippy]

Some of the visuals look similar to Batman the animated series. Especially the sky.

[@JDoe-gf5oz]

Gotham in B&R is even crazier. Massive building-sized statues holding up freeways and stuff.

[@DEREKinNYC]

Val Kilmer was actually a pretty good Bruce Wayne. I wished he had decided to do another movie in the franchise.

[@gonk4509]

DEREKinNYC He was going to be in Batman 5 as apart of Batman’s Fear Gas vision.

[@Suedeash]

He was a great Bruce imo

[@godphoenix66x]

DEREKinNYC much better than dopey Michael Keaton with his receding hairline.

[@a.b.sproductionsllc]

DEREKinNYC He was too difficult in “Batman Forever” that the producers didn’t want him for “Batman and Robin” 1997.

[@andrewh5136]

@@godphoenix66x O_O YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW

[@nightinghood]

“You were supposed to understand... I’ll make you understand.” You can see Bruce go from Edward’s hero to his nemesis in his eyes. Only a great actor can pull that off, kudos to Jim Carrey.

[@Bends95]

Questions Mr. Wayne,My work raises too many questions,Why Hasn’t Anybody..put you in your place.

[@dinahkyle3196]

0:39 Foreshadowing...

[@egb50000]

The only other time this happens too is when Mr. Incredible told Bubby off.

[@parkerpshebnisky1051]

This was back when Jim Carrey was in everything!

[@abramsullivan7764]

The 90's were amazing with Jim Carry in the era.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

He spread himself far too thin.

[@CharmeIeon]

now hes in a new movie called sonic the hedgehog

[@man-who-sold-the-world]

Had is era.

[@politereminder6284]

He's a legend.

[@InfamousWolf89]

I love how nice Bruce Wayne is. Reminds me of the animated series after he thanks the caddy: Rich prick: "You thank the help? Do you thank the garbage man too?" Bruce: "if I see him"

[@thenoirknight5729]

I aswell! I always love seeing the nicer Bruce Wayne in media. He's still different from Batman but doesn't have to be a rich jerk stereotype. It always saddens me seeing people say Val's Bruce Wayne was bad

[@TDKiller415]

"Why be brutalised by an uncaring world?" I think that line spoke volumes about this version of the Riddler. Maybe because of his genius from an early age, he'd grown up as a nerdy outcast with no friends, maybe only picked on or brutalised by bullies, and while he wasn't studying, the only friends he could really turn to were those on the television screen, a form of escapism from the harsh and unforgiving reality of life. So that became his goal, to turn that dream into a NEW reality, no matter how dangerous it may have seemed (like Spellbinder's VR proved many years later), so that maybe no one would ever have to go through what he experienced growing up ever again. It seemed like giving the public a chance to be happy in a world of misery was his goal, and when he was denied that chance, it drove him over the edge, and the side effects of his Box only began to damage his mind even more, especially when he discovered much later on that his device could copy other people's thoughts to his mind and his greed got the better of him. I think in a way, this was one of the best interpretations of the Riddler we ever got. We all know Jim Carrey's history of depression. Putting on a happy face and being all wacky is just a disguise. That same logic could've easily applied to the Riddler here. Funny and smiley on the outside, but actually deeply tragic within.

[@acrsclspdrcls1365]

Wow. This actually explains why Ed is who he is. Very good analysis 👍👍👍

[@sodeiku]

you just describe Paul Dano Riddler, lol

[@thx4chrckingin]

The parallels between Carrey's real life depression and the Riddler's life is absolutely perfect.

[@Waterbug1591]

A gamer nerd obsessed with the idea of VR, basically. Just summarized your long-ass bs.

[@TDKiller415]

@@Waterbug1591 Judging by the way you spit insults for no reason (I can only think of jealousy), you should take "Water" out of your username. It fits you better 🤡🤡

[@Majid-ul4su]

Whoever picked Jim to do this role was absolutely brilliant

[@ivangomez123]

I think it was Joel Schumacher!!

[@tseliius]

Majid Zone You’re absolutely right. Carrey really was incredible as Riddler!

[@metalore]

Um, picking Jim for this was a no-brainer.

[@forman208]

Lmao, he was the biggest movie star on the planet at the time, not like it was some obscure selection

[@TheBaioken]

I know he is my favorite joker

[@Darkdiver28]

Damn he was making a VR headset

[@lmeza1983]

More like the matrix, brain control.

[@Ri3hy]

More like Facebook and Alexa

[@DXultra]

He was fusing VR with Neuralink

[@niall2775]

Actually pretty prophetic this film

[@Hung_Nguyen_90]

Elon Musk then

[@blt4life112]

Now I know what Jesse Eisenberg was trying to do with Lex Luthor.

[@Jaime13R]

BLT4LIFE fucking yes my man, that useless hack of an “actor” just ripped off Jim Carey’s riddler

[@dccomicsmarvelcomics3811]

@@Jaime13R "Hack of an actor" He didn't write the script, dolt

[@zragom5949]

Jaime13R tbh he’s a better actor than Carey

[@stolenname94]

@@dccomicsmarvelcomics3811 The script dosent dictate how you act the piece though so yeah he did totally rip off jims riddler. I'm an actor myself and sometimes it's really nice to get to express a character anyway you want. However sometimes the director should do his job and direct then maybe they wouldn't be so cringe.

[@dccomicsmarvelcomics3811]

@@stolenname94 The director decides how to make him act along with his script

[@mr.l8723]

Jim is the reason this movie will never be forgotten

[@AlbertShiue314]

2:16 “feel like they’re inside the show” … you don’t say, eh, Truman?

[@levimiller5007]

I like how Bruce Wayne said, "it raises too many questions." Kinda like he was foreshadowing the Nigma as the riddler.

[@carsonfowler3182]

fun fact, that security guard on the right at 0:42 is Jon Favreau, director of the first two iron man movies and also happy hogan.

[@davidboy1853]

I didn't even notice thx

[@vshazam]

What the hell is an iron man? Dude who works.at a dry cleaner? Sounds lame af

[@flukeman022]

Before he made a name for himself.

[@hutchy1k94]

HA, so it is!

[@twofacedulyyy2148]

He is also the ultimate fighting champion.

[@dvader3000]

Imagine working in that environment,the lighting is just depresing.

[@antonietaovalle1484]

DC has that kind of ...style?

[@MP-mc7bs]

Antonieta Ovalle the director usually chooses things like that

[@timmyturtles9670]

Id be cool with it mad stoned

[@jackmiddleton2080]

To me it is comforting. Darkness says we are chilling and bright lights say I am being watched.

[@ashmyblunt]

I hate being in bright rooms so I honestly wouldn’t mind it

[@ilikethecokev2]

"You were supposed to understand..." That's just it, Ed, he DID understand. That's why he said no.

[@comicbookreviewer4856]

To ED he felt he could bring Bruce into his world with out realizing he was trying to be a friend and keep him and everyone safe

[@jessejames863]

Of course Bruce understood. It was a stupid ass idea , that is why he said no . lol.

[@Bends95]

@@jessejames863 it just raises too many questions in other words too dangerous in Bruce’s point of view

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

To be fair, Ed's a wacko.

[@mrvenom88]

@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom Is that a technical term?

[@Dutch_man20]

Val Kilmer, in my opinion, definetly had the best Batman voice. It reminds me of a live action Kevin Konroy

[@adamgoncalves1591]

I’m pretty sure Kevin has played a live action Batman as well.

[@Mad_Possum]

I actually liked George Clooney just too bad he ended up in such a bad movie. With Batman, the bad versions are all because of the script and directing. Ben Affleck suffered this too, he is a brilliant actor as well as writer but he didn't get a good movie. Would have liked to seen Affleck or Clooney in the Nolan movies. Christian Bale is great I'm just saying IF those other guys had gotten into a trilogy like the Nolan films they would have been amazing in the role. the reality is every actor who played Batman was a good actor, some just didn't have luck with a good final product due to bad scripts or directing issues. and I mean come on Clooney got put in the movie with the nipple suits 😂 he was doomed from the start.

[@Spidermannprime]

Val Kilmer was a fantastic Batman/Bruce Wayne and this movie has always been my favorite. It seems like this movie getting more appreciated.

[@JJWheatley987]

i feel that Jim’s performance is highly under-appreciated. he was absolutely fucking BONKERS and really portrayed the Riddler as best as anyone could.

[@DrakeBrunette]

I agree that Jim was very charismatic and was by far the most enjoyable character of the film. But I don't think he portrayed the Riddler of the comics. He was born to play the Joker but that role just hasn't been in the cards for him (pun intended). Someone like Jessie Eisenberg would be perfect casting for The Riddler in my opinion.

[@MrCageCat]

@@DrakeBrunette I totally agree with this. Riddler has never been crazy like he was in this movie. If anything Jim Carrey would have been better as The Joker to be honest with how he acted here.

[@different_stuff]

@@MrCageCat in batman arkham riddler is pretty crazy. and you know, a thing for infinite amount of riddles is pretty insane.

[@pp-vf8ls]

Jim Carrey as Jim? yes but as a Riddler?no..this just some maniac who puts up with a riddle, while the riddler, always have crazy purpose behind his riddle

[@gizmo9826]

@@different_stuff riddler isnt crazy in the joker way he is smart and caculated but he has mental issues , he isnt insane he has obsessive compulsive disorder

[@Lakerschamps-yi2em]

Val Kilmer was actually a pretty good Bruce Wayne/Batman imo

[@jeusgarcia8597]

VAL KILMER IS THE MOST APPROACHABLE BATMAN, FIGHT ME ON THIS.

[@redwolfe7049]

I thought so too. He's not considered the best by many but he deserves credit.

[@JoseMR2k11]

He was great

[@wxrst7298]

He probably has the best live action bruce wayne interpretation besides bale

[@different_stuff]

@@jeusgarcia8597 he looks like Ken for Barbie

[@hkr0065]

I love how Bruce literally did nothing wrong here. He was incredibly nice considering he had an entire company to run. Nygma had some stones demanding that Wayne answer him right then and there. Like who the hell do you think you are? 😂

[@anactaneustheeleventh2542]

I actually admire persistent people like that, I like to think I’m of them, as long as you’re respectful, and he was, a little off his hinges, but still, industrious, smart and persistent.

[@Wertsir]

@@anactaneustheeleventh2542 Persistence would have been going to the meeting. This was impatience, and it’s a quality you cannot have if you want to be successful.

[@normanosborn1277]

Nygma wasn't intimidated by that rich kid.

[@Dottman56]

Literally

[@magallanesagustin4952]

Well, Edward is a narcissist, so yeah, it makes sense that he's an entitled creep.

[@LLEntertainmentChannel]

Loving the comments appreciating the detail of Bruce Wayne being genuinely courteous to Nygma. Small details like that go a long way which is why I still enjoy this movie. Did it age like wine? Nah, but for every weird and dated decision, there are also these moments that have me fondly remember the film. I really hope we get Batman Forever: The Red Book Edition in the future.

[@elijahmartinez2870]

U mean the Schumacher cut? Cause I want that too

[@LLEntertainmentChannel]

@@elijahmartinez2870 Yeah it's gained the codename Red Book Edition since it's said to delve more into Bruce's psyche and his turmoil over what happened with the Red Book.

[@ZeeshaanBukhari22]

Val Kilmer's eye glasses really looked great on him.

[@alexrennison8070]

I love how you can see Jim Carrey's sweat running down his neck. He's absolutely 100% in the scene here.

[@skycloud4802]

Jim Carrey's acting is so good here.

[@soup8786]

😂

[@mickeyromeo]

funny thing is, he wasn't acting.

[@1ButtonDash]

yea the movie kinda sucked but ther was some good about it

[@xMikeyHardyx]

Dude this is Jim Carrey in every film, boring af

[@Lonewolf_665]

@@xMikeyHardyx STFU conservative

[@TheBeeaarrJew]

I actually like this movie. Has a true batman comic vibe

[@jaidenboston260]

I agree

[@justinmcgillxboxreigns6591]

Yup

[@justinmcgillxboxreigns6591]

@senior jack he is lol

[@crazycomicguy5063]

I would watch batman forever over batman and Robin anyday

[@robertsims7828]

Way better than Batman and Robin.

[@thebatmanwhoposts9600]

I'll throw my name into the "Val Kilmer was an underrated Bruce Wayne" hat.

[@selfloathingweekly]

Val Kilmer's batman was the closest comic book adaptation of Bruce and I stand by it. And Jim Carrey was the greatest Riddler.

[@joebyran377]

Bro that Riddler comment has not aged well. Both of these comments are dog shit.

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

@@joebyran377 He said "was".

[@rainyatsu4588]

Bruce actually offered to set up something for his experiment. I mean if Edward was a little bit more patient and with a few safeguards implemented then he probably would’ve gotten his invention approved.

[@masterknife8423]

If it weren't for Jim Carey I would've hated this film. He was just brilliant at playing the Riddler. Though I would like him to play the Joker one day

[@michaelcollins2030]

Master Knife I can totally see that he has experience playing a clown aka ace Ventura

[@vshazam]

Actually, Jim Carey based the Ace Ventura character off of a bird, not a clown. Therefore, he should be Penguin.

[@scorpionwins6378]

Jim Carrey was actually quite terrible in this film, which is difficult for me to say because I love his comedic acting. But he really didn't do much research on the character before accepting the role. It was just one of those scenarios where he was given the costume and proceeded to act as himself throughout the film.

[@kaesarkyle2100]

I think the current riddler, Cory Micheal Smith is the best in my opinion, most expanded.

[@majorpeepo]

Meh he was fine

[@Montesama314]

Geez, the animation at the start is positively ANCIENT now. Bruce was quite reasonable here, even for someone who was probably going to say "no." He heard the guy out, and instead of rejecting him there, asked for his schematics to truly understand the threat. Looking back at this, though, this idea feels a little bit more like a "Mad Hatter" thing to do than "Riddler."

[@Tmhoop91]

@Det. Mike Hunt. Beaver Falls, Penn Police Dept what? It looks terrible lol.

[@Tmhoop91]

@Det. Mike Hunt. Beaver Falls, Penn Police Dept no, Gotham is supposed to be dark and gritty. But to each their own

[@Vigriff]

I have to agree that the Box thing sounds like something the Mad Hatter would do, not the Riddler.

[@cappuccinogoodfinger]

I would give him a time to learn it out - it would mean further chance for me to persuade him. Giving your boss a “Yes or no, right now!” ultimstum, especially after he politely asked you for time to learn your project is very unwise...

[@auraconora3996]

Val Kilmer Batman to me is an Infj, he doesn’t seem to fit the intj types like all the other batman, u can just feel his presence his much of a feel rather then a thinker

[@DrSeuss-nw3px]

I just noticed Paul Dano’s riddler wears the same glasses

[@nido6276]

You ever realize he’s wearing the same glasses as the riddler in “The Batman” (2022)

[@SpyTrader1988]

that's crazy. I didn't noticed but again I saw that movie over a decade ago

[@joshualessore7652]

Man Val Kilmer was a perfect Bruce Wayne. Can you imagine if they put him in an actual batman film authentic to the comics that were coming out at that time??!

[@NotShowingOff]

“You hired me personally” “We’ve never actually met” 😂😂😂

[@Mayydayy86]

But his name was on the hiring slip!

[@jj01221]

He has it

[@newagecinematics]

“You were supposed to understand” if he just took his deal about waiting who knows, but he pushed for his answer

[@Agent1W]

TMW you fail a Persuasion check.

[@bottlewaddle6677]

the scene highlights his instability

[@senorbusyman]

If he had just go with Bruces plan then im sure he wouldve said yes. In Business its either "wait & succeed or get pushed down & out" & Nygma got pushed down cuz he didnt want to wait

[@symbolic503]

bruce was completely honest and explained calmly and clearly why he morally disagrees with nygma. as a hero that is the best you can do sometimes.

[@vasilijchmerkovskiy27]

Not only would I say: He literally gave him a chance and Nigma with his arrogance and impatience messed everything up. I would say that this scene is the perfect definition of "Who goes slowly goes well and goes far"

[@batman-robin-soundtrack]

I don't care what people say, Jim Carrey was perfect to play the Riddler

[@jaredbrown3249]

He cracks me up

[@fangthedergon1863]

I never noticed how much Carey played up the crush Nigma has on Bruce Wayne and it's really scary tbh

[@SpoonfulForYou]

How did they hire Edward anyway? How the heck did he pass be interviewed haha nobody talks about this.

[@vshazam]

Also, later in the movie Edward Nygma (who Bruce just met) comes out with his extremely popular new tech that looks and functions just like what Bruce saw here (and was worried about) but Bruce doesn't even bat (teehee) an eye. Not the greatest detective.

[@cholan3871]

Brain manipulation lol

[@odiemodie1]

Spoonful for You probably at the time he was hired, he wasn't as unstable and obsessed as he is now... But then, somebody in the hiring department likely screwed up, thinking he had potential... Lol.

[@champdude17]

Cause he's a genius, so they might have been willing to overlook his autism.

[@theQuestion626]

@@vshazam to be honest I think he was still suspicious of the dangers of Nygma' s technology but at that point it was produced by Edwards own company and not Wayne Enterprises. How something like the NygmaTech "box" passed patent inspectors is anyone's guess.

[@elscorpio4821]

When this idea didn't work he went and installed cable

[@aditisk99]

Yep and became crazier.

[@nonameman7114]

And before this he had his own tv show

[@Yabuturtle]

@@aditisk99 Ironnically, Chip Douglas seemed darker, but really, he was just a stalker. He didn't murder anyone like the Riddler did.

[@FallouFitness_NattyEdition]

Val is such a great actor. I never realized this, but he's actually a perfect Bruce Wayne and a terrific Batman.

[@tatyana6063]

I again really loved how Jim Carrey was strange. And then he became bad to get revenge on Val Kilmer when he rejected Jim.

[@nicklambrou5151]

This is the zenith of comic book writing and acting. Jim Carrey’s understanding of human disaster only means that he can’t be a bad guy in real life. I don’t think I appreciated a scene like this as a kid. Now I can see it for what it truly is... a pinnacle of cinematic achievement.

[@BlakeFerret]

I never noticed that Jon Favreau is walking with Bruce Wayne in this scene.

[@SuperSelina18]

I think Bruce did the right thing turning down Edward's project. Tampering with people's minds and brain manipulation, that doesn't sound right.

[@miloslavmasar]

Selina Maturino but when he becomes The Riddler he was unstoppable with his project

[@-Vitalis-]

"Tampering with people's minds and brain manipulation" Sounds like any modern video game to me... MMMMmmmm...

[@matthewforsyth284]

It's Candy Time Boys and Girls no I'm pretty sure thy sounds like mind control.

[@lanseiosefanderson]

It just raises too many questions

[@mrlionX]

Selina Maturino would you say that....it raises too many questions?

[@kamranshah-f1x]

bruce was nice and polite to edward and didn't mean any harm, but edward still took it personal with him.

[@partogihutapea8632]

Edward : *You are my Idol* Compare to the recent movie, this line aged pretty well

[@axebomber2108]

Now it's more like Batman's his idol.

[@partogihutapea8632]

@@axebomber2108 Oh, you right. Carrey's Riddler admire Bruce Wayne and Dano's Riddler admire Batman.

[@chaudcarte]

Jim Carrey in the 90’s looks exactly The Riddler actor in Gotham Series both look a like.

[@LukeLovesRose]

Am I the ONLY ONE who thinks Jim Carrey did a great job in Batman Forever?

[@linguafranca7115]

Everyone did. He had the best performance in this movie.

[@LukeLovesRose]

@Homer Simpson I've just heard THOUSANDS of critics destroying this movie, Jim's performance included

[@TrentJordan7]

@@LukeLovesRose without a doubt man

[@amirmurray9916]

Top of the class killer job

[@MambaAllDay]

@Homer Simpson some people like the smell of their shit coming out of their mouth.

[@gor9027]

Nice scene between Val's Bruce and Jesse's Lex Luth... I mean, Jim Carrey's Riddler.

[@mustardpower7123]

Jesse’s isn’t close to Jim’s goofiness. And even then, that Peter Pan personality is really just a facade. Look at his scene with Superman on the rooftop.

[@outkast978]

@black panther These pot shots are pathetic. Snyder's Lex Luthor has little to no relation in this, especially considering its explicit relation to the Silicon Valley tech billionaire novoeu that wasn't even existent in the culture back then.

[@Jaime13R]

BlabSurreal dude the fucking similarities are there don’t act like they aren’t.

[@Jaime13R]

Elyaxar but he’s spot on when it comes to everything else. Face it, eisenbergs useless ass watched this and decided to copy carey

[@Jaime13R]

gor9027 I thought I was the only one that caught onto this.

[@lynnc5267]

I liked Val Kilmer and Michael Keaton wearing glasses as Bruce Wayne.

[@William_1985]

they're similar to the glasses the Riddler wears in the newest The Batman (the only physical common appearance between the two Riddlers) Then there's the line in the 1989 Batman where Nicholson's joker says something like 'you wouldn't hit a man with glasses'

[@rorschac009oo8]

Val Kilmer and George Clooney may not have been good Batmans, but they were terrific Bruce Waynes.

[@magallanesagustin4952]

Kilmer was a decent Batman.

[@TheFanboy19]

Nygma. Edward... Edward Nygma. You hired me personally. We've never actually met, but your name is on the hiring slip. I have it. Your doing a good job making yourself look sane there Edward... not!

[@chimpkinhed69]

joseph mierzwa killed me lol

[@fuckoff6431]

@Amni Ony why are you cursing

[@fuckoff6431]

@Amni Ony you know what i don't like you at all

[@chyannehall4268]

Me when I try to Talk to someone who doesn't know me lol lmao

[@WarhawkBeyond2040]

Val Kilmer was a pretty decent Bruce Wayne and did a good solid job but Jim Carrey for me made Batman Forever a really fun movie, his balance of wackiness and level of eccentric behaviour made The Riddler a very dangerous villain. The way he switched from being an eccentric fan boy looking for approval from his 'idol' to an obssesive stalker who was 'rejected' was absolutely epic.

[@DirtyDayMix]

Jim Carrey's delivery on the last seconds is just priceless! What a great performance.

[@ggeerrppeess]

I'm surprised no one talks about that shot at 0:12. Kilmer moves so softly and smoothly as if he's floating.

[@darkjedi7]

this film may not be perfect, but it's punchlines and the nasty jokes and dialogues were definitely top notch! kudos to the writer and the cast for delivering it perfectly

[@maxwellstevens7316]

Edward, Edward Nygma N-Word, N-Word Ligma

[@coolerthanthatguy9159]

@@NomadNomadCZ based

[@sincerelyj2361]

W

[@amateruss]

The Rigger

[@kellogscornflakes2430]

N word nigga

[@crimsonnite9291]

@@NomadNomadCZ ur mum.

[@freddytheplatypus826]

2:32 Val Kilmer looking like a young jeff bridges here. lol

[@fatehfini5856]

Jim carried this movie on his back

[@lw3646]

In all 4 of those films the villains were given much more focus than Batman.

[@TheJuiceisLoose7]

@@lw3646 4? What are you talking about? There are only 2 Joel Schumacher movies

[@duckduckgoose8049]

@@TheJuiceisLoose7 He's talking about the series as a whole. The Schumacher movies are supposed to be continuations of the Tim Burton films. They loosely follow the same canon.

[@MrRobjs83]

@@lw3646 that's true, Jack Nicholson even stole the show in the original as the Joker

[@AtlasBlizzard]

Jim Carrey doesn't get enough recognition for playing the Riddler, especially the Edward Nygma side of the character. He's clearly dangerously obsessive, and he sells the creepiness of that well.

[@sithlordalex]

The virgin Paul Dano’s riddler vs. The Chad Jim Carrey’s riddler .

[@xXAnchormonXx]

“Jim Carrey plays his future actual self.”

[@jeusgarcia8597]

JIM CARREY IS MULTI-DIMENSIONAL, HE CAN PLAY A CLOWN, AS WELL AS A KILLER.

[@cjewe1z]

Kilmer will go down as the best Bruce Wayne/Batman. The man is so cool in every role. He is a born star. Watch the details in his performances. Carrey played The Riddler like a real lunatic. It had a perfect blend of lunacy, tragedy and comedy.

[@MrCris2021]

Lol , that animated intro made me think that this was that telltale batman game.

[@kittyhawk2078]

I just realized The Cable Guy became Edward Nigma so everyone could enjoy TV just a little bit more👍🏼

[@Sanbaddy]

He didn’t even reject the idea Eddy. He just asked you fine tune it then get back to him. Trying to rush a decision from someone who gave you a HUGE opportunity was bad on you.

[@thetoonerowl3687]

0:01 Come on Batman Forever, You didn't gave us a CGI Gotham didn't you?!

[@cooliostarstache5474]

And it looks dope

[@sh-om9wo]

0:53 nigma: ohhhhhhhhh, bruce wayne. bruce: no i am killian the mandarin..

[@TB4000]

Bruce already knew he was nuts but did try and meet him halfway, but the fact that he wasn't willing to wait clenched how nuts he was.

[@skullguy8504]

Carrey Riddler - Rejected by Bruce Wayne. Dano Riddler- Rejected by Batman.

[@mdlm2011]

I don’t care what other people think, Val’s Bruce Wayne/Batman was the best Batman.

[@shadymostafa9711]

He’s in my top 3! His voice was also like a younger Kevin Conroy

[@carlamoura9599]

2:02 my reaction after seeing Batman & Robin.

[@balltongue666]

Mine was more 2:24

[@Shubbhaaam]

Mine was 3:29

[@Zanda641]

This movie hits a soft part of my heart.

[@Usca1990Asis]

Bruce actually asked for schematics and wanted to explore it because he saw potential but he demanded an answer immediately.

[@Murphy2043]

I got the sense he wanted to study it in case a villain ever used it. He could tell Nigma could snap.

[@Usca1990Asis]

@@Murphy2043 Agreed. Nigma did get his shot though so it was a win either way for Bruce.

[@William_1985]

"you were supposed to understand"...a line that connects Nygma to the recent Reeves' Batman with Riddler?

[@mrmosty5167]

While not the best Batman flick out there, this is still one of the best scenes. Imagine being "touched" but having your hero shoot down your life's work. Perfect villain origin fuel

[@GuyWithBadHair]

God, those CGI buildings are so dated now!

[@seanmager1168]

so riddler is obsessive AND delusional... oh that jus great! (Sarcasm) jim carrey really made Edward nigma disturbed... very well done... hes a comedian who pulls off insanity quite well...

[@Squirrel36]

I thought Edward Nygma was a Hellhound, not a disturbed man.

[@joshuagavile4775]

Squirrel36 he’s a narcissistic nerd who wants his intelligence to be recognized.

[@seferino]

I don't think jim was acting in here.

[@psyched.shelby5391]

Seferino we get it. Stfu

[@BeliasLP]

@@seferino you're right, recent events should've shown us that jim carrey is out of his mind, too.

[@jayNicks10]

“It just raises too many questions.” Oh the foreshadowing.

[@JJ-iu5hl]

"It makes the audience feel like they're inside the show..... My first idea is called The Truman Show. I came up with it based on.... past experiences"

[@mrb5791]

Fun Fact; Jon Favereu is actually in this movie. You can see him at 0:46 waking behind Kilmer’s Bruce Wayne to the right

[@diegohernan82]

Actually a very well written dialog. An also an interesting take on the villain. Just imagine if Facebook and Oculus VR joined forces, so much power in the hands of a few.

[@Kenfren]

This comment certainly aged well

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

Bruh

[@rMachete]

Yes, is scary

[@daisuki9296]

Its called metaverse and it's real now 😐

[@arthurguillen8432]

Jon faverau walking with wayne

[@usernameusername882]

Doesn’t he just love working for billionaires with high tech equipment to fight criminals?

[@Ghost-oj2nc]

Time stamp?

[@joscar062]

@@Ghost-oj2nc 0:45

[@lokitonelson]

If you noticed when bruce wayne says “im gonna need that back ed” its the same quote from Fun with dick and jane when he had to get Jack McCallister’s signature

[@M1ckTheMan]

I feel like the Paul Dano version takes this concept and makes it WORK weirdly enough, a clearly unstable but genius man who thinks the hero will have his back, but ultimately leaves him hanging due to the fallacy of his modus operandi.

[@HeavyHouse24]

"I am Dr. Nygma" "Nygma what?" "Nygma Balls"

[@IAmBushid0]

Jim Carrey carried all this movie in his back

[@uberdai]

I literally thought this was one of the Batman games when the intro came on.

[@faye61]

Eddie: you were suppose to understand Bruce: *holds batarang to his head* always have

[@PuppetierMaster]

I think Bruce Wayne was the only one that did understand.

[@3dheadcreeps87]

I love the red sky in Gotham. Classic BTAS look.