Bruckner: Locus iste (UniversitätsChor München)

[@ellenbeckmann4293]

Schaue ich gerade im Neuhahrekonzert aus Wien 2024. So schön. Lg Ellen 🎼🎶🎤

[@globalsoundpromotion]

I loved singing this, I had the tenor part. Great performance by the way!

[@reginajozwik6920]

przepiękne wykonanie i brzmienie, przenika do głębi serca

[@jerryuptmor2826]

This is absolutely beautiful. The voices, the direction, the basses,,, wow. I have done this many times during 50 years in choir and this one is my real keeper. Thanks.

[@classy_dweller]

Ah ,it is a so wonderful ,so soul-soothing work...

[@hadiafelauer8460]

Although my religion is muslima, I never forget this beautiful song, which I used to sing in my college chor long time ago. Till today the beautiful Latin words in my ears, alhamdollah.

[@MeanMachineNZL]

hadia felauer Me too..I still remember the words and notes. We won gold singing this back in the days at the 1998 NZ choir nats . It's amazing how music can create a life time of memories..😁

[@garywait3231]

Such sublime music unites all people of good will . Thanks for your comment

[@stefanjanssen3782]

No matter the religious Club, the Almighty listens to All of us the same⚓️

[@curiouschris98]

I played this in my school's saxophone quartet last year. Such a beautiful song!

[@anaa1043]

Le plus beau chœur, mené par le meilleur chef de chœur. Magnifique

[@harryslide]

Gorgeous! Bravissimi! This is the best version on YT. I think college-age singers bring more earnest and spiritual energy to great choral music. I've heard also the Yale glee club in person-fabulous! Thanks for this uplifting performance. How special to hear this in Atlanta. I love Germany, too, and Munich too, of course. I think of the Frauenkirche with fond memories. And of Schwarzwaelder's Restaurant.

[@Joachim-dj2em]

An den Universitäten Chor ich werde bald diese Werk in der Kantorei in Schallstadt -Wolfenweiler singen und aufführen.Ich wünsche Ihnen einen schönen Abend . JoachimEhlers aus Schallstadt südlich von Freiburg

[@fabioborgogno8776]

Tenors are very imprecise when starting the verse "irreprehensibilis". By the way, for me this is absolutely the best performance on youtube

[@nikolaossotiriou908]

οντως υπεροχο!!!!!!

[@curtwalton7284]

Beautiful job. One of my favorites!

[@mozartini100]

Danke dafür, wunderschön relaxte Version zum Abschalten .....................................

[@debschen72]

I’m here because of today’s answer in Wordle. I used to sing this in my choir at school and it will always be my all-time favourite.

[@sabinebabetzky3891]

Exactly why I‘m here today 😂👍🤩🎶

[@debschen72]

@@sabinebabetzky3891 🙌

[@dachor1624]

So toll gesungen!

[@ismarocket]

muuy bueno, se nota la grandeza de la comprensión de las cosas divinas por parte de Bruckner

[@verkehrtewelt114]

Sehr schön, Danke! Text: Locus iste a Deo factus est, inaestimabile sacramentum, irreprehensibilis est. Dieser Ort ist von Gott geschaffen, ein unschätzbares Geheimnis, kein Fehl ist an ihm.

[@sapatariabocadobrilho5317]

Meu Deus que lindo ..amei 👏👏👏

[@gandalf9460]

München, ich komme! Ui, bei dem Chor will ich sowas von mitsingen. :D

[@jraldne1]

THANK YOU!!!...

[@nesaro]

exelente director a mano!!!

[@theonlycontessa]

Lovely sound!

[@MrAnthonieify]

Bravo wunderful gesungen!! My compliments Ton

[@franciscojaviercastanoaran2813]

Me encanta, me recuerda cuando la cantabamos enel Coro de Cámraa de la UPB entre 1996 y 2000.

[@sabineschett6277]

So schön

[@nabucco4610]

Magnifici

[@ryanaday7963]

Reminds me of the Mr. Bean opening song.

[@maestrodanielepasini]

l'inizio somiglia molto

[@fastidioussloth6013]

Choral music, with different words & trivial organ introduction by Howard Goodall, stolen from uncredited Anton Bruckner but BBC credited to Goodall. BBC and other TV channel continuity announcements are fond of interrupting & compressing credits anyway.

[@WonderlandofMinecraft]

@@maestrodanielepasini infatti Howard Goodall adattò questo pezzo per creare la sigla "ecce homo qui est faba" di mr bean

[@albertvanjaarsveld5048]

Too fast - in my humble opinion. I also do not understand why the choir should have the score available for a relative uncomplicated motet in C-major that takes no longer than three minutes to perform. The tenor entry at 1:04 with the "irreprehen sibilis est" section is shockingly uneven. One would expect a German University choir to perform at a higher standard before posting on You-tube.

[@drunkonkerosene]

Nice and helpful :-) Will hopefully sing this tomorrow.

[@farmideas]

Loved the pace, tone and variation in the piece. How many performances are sung in one gear, all desperate to get to the end. V well done, and of course, the German influence so helps.

[@fionaeller7809]

Umwerfend ,ihr Künstler, alle !

[@c-historia]

Molto bravi!

[@r.h.7486]

Dankeschön..♥♥♥

[@romankozak7297]

Well done!

[@albertvanjaarsveld5048]

The tenor entry at 1:04 is not only uneven, it is false as well!

[@RossoBianco1895]

klanglich super. bei 1:05 hörts sich so an, als ob der sopran noch mal kurz in die pause hinein sein letztes h anstimmt, damit der tenor sein c bekommt :)

[@fstoertz]

In der Ruhe liegt die Kraft!

[@MichaelMüller-j1r]

Wer sind eigentlich die Heroen auf den Fresken im Hintergrund?

[@edithfayard436]

Parents, soyez fiers !

[@alankj7241]

Sangat indah...🤗🤗

[@mr.german2871]

0:44 der Typ oben links😂

[@nnymus-kq8tj]

er fühlt sich

[@maecflyProductions]

wow

[@josemariadiazcarmona5920]

Muy bueno

[@trenchy_BOI]

When you fall out of heaven in the middle of the UK and have no idea what to do:

[@Nonie46]

One wonderful thing about Bruckner's Locus Iste is that there are singing groups that pronounce the Latin term for God as DIO while other groups pronounce IT as DEO. Both are correct, though. They refer to the same Almighty God.

[@johnholmes912]

Both are NOT correct; leaving aside Ciceronian (classical), one chooses from dantean, chaucerean or shakesperian according to the language of the composer. Italian pronunciation is inappropriate here.

[@RetiredBrass]

Do you know many ancient Romans? Since Latin is considered a "dead" language, you can never be sure about it's correct pronunciation. Native English speakers tend to pronounce it different than, for instance, native German speakers etc. It doesn't necessarily mean one is right and the other is wrong.

[@willemvanniekerk4312]

Wondermooi.

[@CoasterfreakRaptor]

@Vocalist904 Naja, wie schon geschrieben...ich mag den Tempowechsel nicht so sehr...aber das Ende holt da ordentlich was raus...mir gefällt die Verzögerung am Ende echt gut. Aber ich bin kein Experte auf dem Gebiet...

[@7989ccye]

I prefer "Deh-Oh" But, I'm American ..

[@tylerscruggs2241]

I agree. Everything was beautiful except that every time I heard "Dee-o" something inside of me cringed. Are they taught differently in different countries?

[@mlshatto]

Tyler Scruggs Yes, this is German Latin, and very helpful because our choir is using the German pronunciation tomorrow. You can also notice the schwa instead of "eh" at the end of "iste" and the zee in irreprehensibilis. A well-trained chorus will use this pronunciation in Carl Orff's "Carmina Burana." And since Bruchner was Austrian, it's probably much closer to what he heard than is our liturgical Latin.

[@johnholmes912]

it is Dee-oh in English

[@АннаВладимировнаМацкевич]

is it bad romance of those times?

[@desteddyeggroll]

This should be a TMEA ALL STATE SONG!!!

[@johnholmes912]

There exist four different church latins. In the early 20C the pope tried to make everyone use Dantean; He failed. In French and italian Day-oh in english and german dee-oh

[@minecraftdomcast]

That was the first piece I sung part of my school but I must admit it was rushed

[@elliemalfoy2144]

Are they pronouncing "deo" correctly? It sounded like "dio" to me..

[@TheGodlike300]

they are

[@johnholmes912]

Yes....it ain't italian

[@geraldoferreiradossantosdu7161]

Boa musica

[@dreamer_4937]

Fantastic conductor! :D Wow. Rarely see a conductor with actual technique. :) And then what a surprise, the choir is amazing. Tenor entry on irreprehen sibilis est was quite shit tho :/ That was the only place I saw where the conductor wasn't very clear on entry- waved around a bit too much, so some came in early, and most if not all started on the wrong note. They should have been a bit more excited singing it too- a quiet, excited accent on every syllable. That is my only criticism. :) Well done though! -Ed

[@ruimoura2485]

DEO is pronounced with an open "E" like the word EST.

[@cieslac]

Not in the Latin that I learned at school.... so who is right? I guess no one...

[@ruimoura2485]

cieslac I am. Deo is pronounced like I said.

[@cieslac]

Rui Moura Then prove it! I am aware of scientific methods. I'm waiting! That endless discussion about latin pronounciation is so silly. What you hear is "German latin" which sounds different than (imho) ugly "American latin" which again sounds different than "french latin" and so one... So, a German choir with a German conductor (who normally decides about pronounciation) sings a song composed by a native German speaker. From that point of view it IS correct. Like it or not, no one forces you to listen, but don't claim it to be wrong, because that's just arrogant and not serious at all! If you really want to know what is meant correct, you would have to ask Bruckner himself. What a pity he can't tell us...........

[@trp8155]

cieslac Actually, Rui Moura is correct. Deo should be pronounced as "day-oh", not "dee-oh". I know there are differences in the Ecclesiastical Latin (Church Latin) sung here, and Classical Latin, but it does not affect the word Deo. The difference between the two pronunciations does, however, affect words such as "inaestimabile". Also, there really is no such a thing as German-Latin; Rome never conquered what is now modern-day Germany, and thus, never gave the German Confederations the Latin language. Modern German does not directly derive from Latin, as languages such as French and Spanish do. It's not only "American-Latin" that pronounces Deo as "day-oh"; go listen to the Monteverdi Choir, The Sixteen, or Polyphony, all British choirs and among the best in the world, sing this, and they pronounce it as "day-oh'. Do not accuse anyone of being arrogant -- especially when your reply came off as VERY pretentious and rude. I also have taken Latin in school, and have sung many pieces that contain the word "Deo". Never once have I said "dee-oh". Why do we not go ask the Vatican to see what they say? Seeing how Latin derived from there, and it is basically the only place that still speaks it constantly.

[@ruimoura2485]

cieslac German latin? American latin?? AHAHA WTH!?!? Latin is just Latin. I've studied Latin for 3 years, so I know what I'm saying. By the way, if I sing a song in german or french, do I have to sing it with my country pronunciation? ahah

[@giusepperocco3297]

Eccellente esecuzione.

[@tristansmyth6802]

pronunciation - interesting comment, Ecclesiastical Latin is a little different in pronunciation from the Latin spoken at the height of the Roman Empire, funny you mention it to be a dead language too since a lot of schools are now teaching it again - but the difference in how it is pronounced between and English and a German choir singing this music, it makes no difference - if we want our Latin to be the best i guess we should all head off to the Vatican :-)

[@19franken95]

ein Tick zu hektisch... Aber super Job, das ist klar 💜

[@Thelargir]

This is absolutely gorgeous! Yet I can't help but feel that is seems a little bit rushed. I understand this was probably a deliberate choice by the conductor, but I think it should be a little be slower, and that the phrases shouldnt be so quickly finished. Anyway, thats just my meaning.

[@johnholmes912]

I thought it much too slow

[@Vocalist904]

@CoasterfreakRaptor also.. Du hörst Hektik? Das Gegenteil ist der Fall, das Stück ist sogar ausgesprochen in Ruhe dargeboten. Einen Kritikpunkt hütte ich bei 1,03: Das irae bei den Männern sollte eigentlich einstimmig sein, das stört die Perfektion aber life ist life, da passiert schon mal was..

[@janelis3057]

V 1:05 tenor totálně falešný nástup.... u tak harmonicky jednoduché věci 😒

[@CoasterfreakRaptor]

Ich finde den Chor sehr kraftvoll, die Betonung und Aussprache sehr deutlich und sauber. ABER: Das Ganze ist mir persöhnlich ein wenig zu hektisch. Dieser Ort wird geweiht und nicht erstürmt. :-)

[@frankhayes7111]

The tenors starting irreprehensibilis est. ...ouch

[@sheilagregory8521]

Oh sing joyfully

[@fstoertz]

Tempowechsel meiner Meinung nach völlig unpassend. Der Klangaufbau wirkt langsam viel besser. Ansonsten wirklich die schönste Version auf KZbin, Kompliment!

[@AllDayPiano]

Ich bin ganz deiner Meinung. Auch "Denn er hat seinen engeln" ist mir persönlich fast zu schnell und hektisch. Aber das Erstürmen des Schlachtfeldes gehört bei heutigen Interpretationen scheinbar zum guten Ton. Anhören kann man es sich halt nicht mehr, aber das scheint viele nicht zu interessieren.

[@ms.sympathy3871]

Ich finde es gerade gut,dass heutzutage nicht aus jedem Lied eine "heilige Kuh" gemacht wird.

[@dennistames9842]

Tolles Stück. Fand ich sehr übereilt und teilweise gehetzt. Ein bisl mehr Dynamik würde das Stück um Längen aufwerten. Tenöre und Dirigent mal den Solo-Einsatz üben.. Fürn durchschnittlichen Uni-Chor ganz ok.

[@angelosfotiadis98]

So eine Besserwisserei.. Sie finden es gehetzt aber sie finden auch, es würde an Dynamik fehlen. Sie haben keinen Sinn für das Schöne, offenbar... Hören Sie nicht, wie sanft, wie zärtlich die Mehrstimmigkeit verzaubert? Der Einsatz.. Pfff... Als ob, selbst wenn es so wäre, die Schönheit vermindert würde dadurch. Wie gütig von Ihnen, den Universitätschor grade noch überleben zu lassen. Ich bin ganz gerührt. Ob Sie taub sind? Das täte mir leid aber würde einiges erklären. LG.

[@JamesWalton1999]

So quiet

[@naturlichich218]

That isn't too much quiet. You could buy a better headset

[@schokolademousse]

Finde ich leider nicht so gelungen. Zwischen "Locus" und "iste" sollte nicht drübergezogen sondern leicht abgesetzt werden. Das Tempo ist zu gehetzt und generell ist die Interpretation viel zu exaltiert für den Inhalt. Mitunter klingt es schon fast wie ein Marsch.

[@xabulidema9454]

Woher kommen die Tempowechsel und das zu schnelle Tempo? Von Bruckner sicher nicht, in den Noten steht nichts dergleiches. Außerdem heißt es nicht "irre Prehensibilis". Es ist hier nichts Irres, sondern etwas Ir-reprehensibilis. Man sollte sich vielleicht etwas mehr mit dem Text auseinandersetzen, dann gelingt die Musik auch besser. Und den großen C zum Schluss im Bass hat auch nicht Bruckner geschrieben. Der Stück ist nicht dafür da, damit Bässe zeigen können, dass sie so tief singen können, oder dass man zeigen kann wie theatralisch man dirigieren kann. Die Unsicherheiten im Tenor und die schwankende Intonation sind bei solchen Massechören normal, es gibt immer welche, die zu wenig zur Probe kommen und nicht gut genug den Stück singen können.

[@helyushd6943]

w Wusste nicht, dass Sie die Interpretationsfreiheit haben. Gut zu wissen, dass Sie das absolute absolute Gehör haben. Das nächste mal wenn ich mit der Familie Wheinachtslieder singe rufe ich dich an, damit du dich darüber beschweren kannst, wie falsch wir singen.

[@xabulidema9454]

@@helyushd6943 Oh, ein beleidigter Sänger!

[@StudioBrindille]

Mais on s'en fiche, de vos histoires de prononciation du latin. La seule chose qui importe, c'est que ces gens-là font de la musique extraordinairement belle ! C'est ce qu'on appelle l'interprétation.

[@dottorben]

In my opinion is too much fast, mainly in the "irreprensibilis" section. Good voices, but no emotions!

[@andrewroberts8139]

It's gorgeous singing, you obviously had your ears cut off at some point

[@MeanMachineNZL]

You need to close your eyes and listen. Then you'll feel the emotions.👍

[@cloudiwolker8134]

Sie ham halt das ire prehen versaut.... :/

[@Vocalist904]

Ja haben sie.. :-) und leider bei einer sehr wichtigen Stelle..

[@racine1685]

?

[@Vocalist904]

manche Fehler fallen nicht so gravierend auf, dieser leider schon.. das meinte ich mit "wichtigen Stelle"..

[@lukasartinger]

Man muss aber auch sagen, das ist mal wieder ne Stelle wo der Tenor gefordert ist... Beim irreprehensibilis hört man jede kleinste Unsauberheit, und der harmonische Kontext ist nicht unbedingt der trivialste...

[@HitShift]

the more I live the more I realise the conductor's importance, in this case he failed :)

[@osilliso]

Vokale klingen hier sehr breit und unkontrolliert, ingesamt auch sehr steril und der Chorleiter wirkt etwas pedantisch. Da gibt es wesentlich bessere Aufführungen, aber anscheinend nicht auf KZbin

[@esta1ful]

It’s DAY-oh not DEE-oh.

[@zaprina1186]

I studied Latin in school for 8 years (in Germany) and we pronounced it the way they do. Maybe it´s incorrect, but in this case accept it as a german accent...

[@johnholmes912]

NO NO and THRICE NO........... Latin should always use the pronunciation of the host language. The Modern tendency to Italianise Latin is abhorrent and just plain wrong. In English and German it is Dee- OH

[@conchamanzaneque4354]

Gasteasoro

[@iantam171]

Reminds me of mr bean😂

[@stefanjanssen3782]

Was für ein Chor!👌👍

[@resiraser6702]

Was für ein Komponist ❤

[@jerrylin5085]

I do not like their interpretation, I think Chinsui should sing better.

[@formulajman1]

pronounciation!!!! plus its rushed and separated it doesnt.flow

[@reinthaler1201]

Mehrere Tempi! Schrecklich betonte Endsilben: ist'e