IS martin brundle test the lotus renault 98t from senna (senna and brundle is friens
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@timeforachange1210 жыл бұрын
There you go : three pedals, a steering wheel that actually looks like a steering wheel..., gears changing, no electronics. Great era.
@Rottensteam6 жыл бұрын
timeforachange12 It had an ECU. So, electronics.
@80sf1fan23 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY MAN, thos drivers were differend, were real racers, imagine only a steering wheel with nothing more, with 1200 hp
@f3p3 жыл бұрын
Waaa modern tech bad
@michaeldavis25312 жыл бұрын
@@Rottensteam No sophisticated electronic driver aids, though.
@johndough2472 жыл бұрын
What driver aids are in Modern F1? In the current cars there is no ABS, no TC, near 1000HP (some are estimated to be over that), less turbo lag so can be even twitchier, plus faster top speed AND better aero which means more G-forces on the driver, plus they have to manage more than just fuel load, they also have the battery to worry about. You know how hard it is to adjust energy deployment, energy recovery, brake bias, engine maps etc, adjusting them for almost every corner to stay competitive, while under heavy G's and battling other cars? I LOVE the 80's era of F1 and the Lotus 98T was phenomenal, but people need to stop slagging off modern F1 with fake facts and overblown nostalgia and learn to appreciate all eras, as they all have their specific difficulties. The young guys today might make it look easy on most days, but that's because they are on average much more physically fit than drivers of the past. The modern cars are a proper handful to drive, stick shift or not. Not using antiquated tech like Manual shift, as cool as it is, does not make the current drivers any less of a racer. If guys like Alonso, Raikonnen, Verstappen and Hamilton existed back then they'd be just as competitive as the top guys of that era (and yes they know how to drive stick). The only real difference between today's great drivers and those of the past is there hasn't been 30+ years to canonize them as patron saints of the church of F1.
@BritIronRebel3 жыл бұрын
Those Ayrton drives in the rain in that car were otherworldly! I met Ayrton, Gerhard, Johnnie Dumfries, and Jackie Stewart back in the day.
@jraybay2 жыл бұрын
Wow that's very cool. You're lucky
@BritIronRebel2 жыл бұрын
@@jraybay Jackie Stewart was awesome! We were talking to him and he said, I have to do an interview, walk with me. So we walked with him talking as he walked into the Ferrari garage. Since we were with him, they let us in too. We watched as he interviewed Gerhard Berger sitting in his Ferrari F-1 car, took pictures, etc. Nobody usually get inside the Ferrari garage unless you're somebody... Lol
@edwardharris98108 жыл бұрын
My 1st memory of Senna was the morning warm up session at 1986 British GP ar Brands Hatch, the cars came out on track and I just remember Ayton's helmet looked so bright in the black Lotus.
@HadaCakraningrat14 жыл бұрын
1.5 litre and 1200 Horsepower... that is mindblowing... I want Senna back, I want the old turbocharged era back, I want the V12s back. RIP Senna.
@bestopinion9257 Жыл бұрын
And one engine for a race, one for qual. Burning engines era.
@Mcnull-px8ge8 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the 1986 Lotus 98T was the most beautiful F1 car Ayrton Senna ever raced.
@azynkron7 жыл бұрын
A true beauty and beast. Just imagine trying to tame those BHP when it was raining. Pushing the pedal and just wait for the turbo to spin up. Then all 1200 BHP all at once. And that black with gold trim. Pure car porn.
@STEFAZON5007 жыл бұрын
True but one could also say that the MP4/4 was pretty damn good looking too. Then again the Lotus had the JPS livery.
@jbdoggy5 жыл бұрын
@@STEFAZON500 It is my opinion lotus designed the best looking cars. Apart frm the 98T, jus look at the 78 & 79. Really awesome styling. The JPS livery jus enhances the whole package even further.
@knowlesy39154 жыл бұрын
My favourite looking was the mp4/5 & 6. But the 98t got me into f1
@Pasovineyard3 жыл бұрын
@@STEFAZON500 Yes, would love to see both of these cars here in the USA at shows. Cars and Coffee Protective Film Solutions.
@jraybay7 жыл бұрын
This car just had a certain mystique to it and with Ayrton behind the wheel, it was simply magical. A true legend
@MarcinHopa82 жыл бұрын
Mmm… ❤️ mystique, true…
@edd55r12 жыл бұрын
Love what Berger says "you had to have balls to drive these cars"
@Pasovineyard3 жыл бұрын
Yes, just all that horse power in a car that weighs nothing. Just dances down the track.
@brendanmccallion235010 жыл бұрын
JPS Lotus just embodies classic F1
@MrMa19816 жыл бұрын
My Lord I'm SPEACHLESS. I'm not even a romantic, but this car is a magnificent piece of beauty.
@user-kd1kl6yd6j4 жыл бұрын
Legendary car. This sound( sweet music to my ears) and the driver? What can i say ( R.I.P) AYRTON The best driver of all times greetings from GREECE
@dental_rider12 жыл бұрын
We all miss you Senna and the cars that only you could drive.
@brinx0713 жыл бұрын
i love how the 2011 Lotus Renault team has revisited a similar livery to this car's era.
@Jay-ps9zx2 жыл бұрын
You need massive balls to gain traction driving that beast.
@dakkan54333 жыл бұрын
If I was to race in any era it would be the turbo/skirt/downforce era with the manual gears, it must have been a handful to drive but that’s what I imagine racing to be, being able to tame the beast, here it was, 800 hp!
@theant9821 Жыл бұрын
Skirts were banned and after teams found ways round the rules to bring them back a flat floor was mandated before the turbo era got into its stride.
@fedecasares7 жыл бұрын
The "black knight" of F1. Simply beautiful and impressive.
@ThatWelshRacingDriver12 жыл бұрын
Imagine If Senna Had Lived! ... Do You Think With Today's Leap In Engineering And Technology Within F1, Would Senna Still Be Able To Dance His Dance Behind The Wheel Of Modern F1 Cars? ... OF COURSE HE WOULD ... SENNA WOULD SHOW EVERY DRIVER HOW ITS DONE!!! .. R.I.P You Absolute Legend
@BlakesWrld9 жыл бұрын
0:49 drifting in a f1 car, that is awesome
@dazburnside73408 жыл бұрын
+Niderfyn the drift piquet does past senna at 0:49 seconds into this vid is fantastic he was giving him the finger at the same time aswell
@crusherbmx8 жыл бұрын
+Niderfyn Never heard that, too funny! I remember Senna was considered kind of a reckless punk at the time, while Piquet was a two time champion, I could totally imagine him doing that.
@BlakesWrld6 жыл бұрын
so i have to be a hipster to watch drifting? u sound stupid as hell i'm 30 years of age and i watch the fuck i want to watch. u the one sound like a hipster i bet u probably one them kids that listens to tekashi 69 and lil uzi
@artysanmobile4 жыл бұрын
In a formula car, that is almost impossible to do. Just amazing car control.
@vannveratia93109 жыл бұрын
0:49 Nelson Piquet drifting on purpose to give Senna the finger
@MrBamcito8 жыл бұрын
+Vannvera Tia Piquet the King
@POVShotgun4 жыл бұрын
Senna must’ve really needed it.
@joeimbesi53614 жыл бұрын
It was Mansell.
@goncalodvd3 жыл бұрын
@@joeimbesi5361 It was Piquet ...
@qqq221110 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video thanks for posting
@Lkenneally9 жыл бұрын
Most beautifiul car ever sound and looks
@jorgejethro13 жыл бұрын
senna...genius,legend,god...martir.the best ever\; we miss you brother.rip.
@melbguy13 жыл бұрын
Senna was unlucky not to win the Championship in '86. He said that was the second best F1 car he ever drove after the all-conquering Mclaren MP4/4
@Ayrton4everrr14 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Thanks terga for sharing! :D
@Pasovineyard3 жыл бұрын
Yes, a fan too. Not only for the driving.
@kwaleikafa94002 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Fantastic!
@casual357 жыл бұрын
Johnny Dumfries handled this gearbox wonderfully.
@ianrkav15 жыл бұрын
Those 1.5ltr turbo's in qualifying trim of 1200hp must be faster than anything today!
@srrocknroll47557 жыл бұрын
A superb car for a superb driver
@JonathanAllen03795 жыл бұрын
If I were Senna I'd be figuring out a way to get the girl at 0:25 back to my room after the race, LOL. ;)
@col9511 жыл бұрын
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@johnnycage36737 жыл бұрын
Assetto Corsa (PC) in VR and driving this car
@marjansarec23373 жыл бұрын
I love driving this car, it's got so much life.
@marcjackson74119 жыл бұрын
Sublime, Senna and the last and most powerful JPS Lotus..just epic..wouldn't it have been great if he had won his first title in 86 in this beauty?
@jogadorcomum3265 Жыл бұрын
Teria que ter um motor Honda ali, igualmente ajustado ao das Williams FW11 !
@theant9821 Жыл бұрын
@@jogadorcomum3265 if it weren't for fuel consumption he probably would have won the championship, the honda was more economical.
@FlyingBoxHead12 жыл бұрын
These engines were LUCKY to reach 1200hp during qualifying,during a race however they barely exceeded 900hp because of the fuel situations the driver had to adjust the turbo for,all to often did the drivers have their boost up to high(yes,the turbos were adjustable) and the cars would simply run out of fuel before the race was over.
@terryrigby71226 жыл бұрын
He’s right the turbo era produced the most powerful formula one cars ever
@TheRooster9414 жыл бұрын
Awesome catch at 0:49!
@user-uh6lm5wv6n Жыл бұрын
This is what true F1 looks and sounds like.
@DrJ204212 жыл бұрын
I am very excited man
@GabrielVelocidade12 жыл бұрын
i love this car
@jcgrj10 ай бұрын
Please more obboard sounds videos of this fantastic car.
@shinyaaki.251712 жыл бұрын
Turbo era LEGEND !
@GashdakSaghzaar7 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to know that (senna and brundle is friens
@martinschmiedt30757 жыл бұрын
JohnnyMidnight1 *were
@GashdakSaghzaar6 жыл бұрын
What, so Brundle had a falling out with Bruno Senna ?
@Jyllenberg14 жыл бұрын
Thank you hmdwgf!
@avidal712 жыл бұрын
Wow What a Power Slide by Piquet!
@pvdharten11 жыл бұрын
same with top comment of RobertO. V12's were'nt banned, they were phased out by the teams themselves. V10's are less complex to build and run as well as shorter in length which allowed a more even weight distribution closer to the centre of gravity of the car. They were never considered before the late 90's as a V10 configuration creates problems in ignition timing and distribution on the 360 degree "work cycle" but with the introduction of electronic ignition this was no longer an issue.
@The_Riddler2112 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Mr Senna :(
@beqa16v13 жыл бұрын
this car is totally awesome! what is the concluding song in the last part of this vid?
@F1Oversteer Жыл бұрын
This car on the Sims on full boost is insane. 2 seconds of nothing then 1400hp all at once and into the horizon.
@johnpaultyrrell31649 жыл бұрын
When the racing was pure not like today need cars like that again
@szymon62077 жыл бұрын
2 to 5 bar inch 5000-13000rpm ?
@scotty68612 жыл бұрын
Those eyes in the yellow helmet still touch me.
@The_Guy_Who_asked...6 жыл бұрын
0:49 DEJA VU SWEAR IVE BEEN IN THIS PLACE BEFORE
@JoeBorg111 жыл бұрын
sounds a little better than the normal ones you hear on a punto tdi!
@geforce5700fx12 жыл бұрын
best looking f1 with the lotus 49
@melbguy13 жыл бұрын
Best looking, one of the most powerful and should have dominated the 86 season, if it weren't for reliablity issues.
@TheLloydA112 жыл бұрын
@bob333336 Some 1986 cars were putting in qualifying trim about 1500 Bhp in race trim i think it was around 900 Bhp. (1986 was the year they produced the highest Bhp ).
@aguirreignacio13 жыл бұрын
I want to cry...
@weallfollowmanutd13 жыл бұрын
bishopsfarewell - actually they did race them at the same time. In the early 1980s. The Ferrari Flat 12s and Alfa Romeo V12s/Matra V12s raced against Renault V6 Turbos!
@tormentor510DFU11 жыл бұрын
we don't know yet Bernie Ecclestone said he was worried about poor noise so he may allow changes to happen to make them loader and maybe higher RPM
@Kim-Honjoong3 жыл бұрын
That's cool.
@nigelwilliams9307 Жыл бұрын
Only real men could race this car..no halo required for those heroes!
@weallfollowmanutd14 жыл бұрын
vikirad - atrocious is a massive word lol. A v16 BRM was atrocious to drive, but in 1986 a v6 twin turbo Lotus was an incredible car in qualifying, only a second off a 2000 f1 car, also in qualifying trim. Thats not bad is it! - you have a point, but it wasn't that far off.
@ordnas123411 жыл бұрын
I prefer the 1.5 v6 engine of the video! So powerfull and WHAT A SOUND!
@tormentor510DFU11 жыл бұрын
i may only be 17 but i have an incredible high IQ and a large broad knowledge on engineering and i can't stand people who leave comments about stuff they have no idea about
@chrisfleming51093 жыл бұрын
Colin chapman would have adored Ayrton Senna. Jim Clark would have loved that car too.
@pvdharten11 жыл бұрын
Totally support the top comment by tormentor... These were V6 and sometimes even straight 4 cylindre, 1.5(!) liter engines. That's 100cc less then next year wil have. Nevertheless they were and still are the most powerful engines F1 has ever seen with up to 1,200 bhp in qualifying trim... That's why they were banned in the first place!
@Jyllenberg14 жыл бұрын
What´s the song beginning @ 0:47? Good so see these cars still in motion.
@dwavster11 жыл бұрын
this is actually a turbo v6, which is what F1 is bring back for 2014 :)
@MrTann201011 жыл бұрын
haha I thought exactly the same. But there is a 75 percent chance that Senna would definitely get to the Lotus first, because Peter Warr already wanted him before the first season, and would Senna have blocked Brundle from entering the team just like he did to Warwick? one can only ponder :P hehe
@opmike34313 жыл бұрын
@ikelleners Are you trying to make some specific point here? Most drivers come from a background that allowed them to get some experience behind the wheel of proper cars. You're not going to have any impoverished individual work their way up into a Grand Prix vehicle without some heavy financial assistance along the way.
@azynkron11 жыл бұрын
Yes, but that was earlier than this. And they pretty much had to rebuild the whole engine after qualifying.
@markfarnon6742 Жыл бұрын
F1 drivers today are brave and skillful for sure and I admire them. However, to drive those cars in 86 - they had bigger balls no doubt. Also, Brundle must be a tad jealous as back in 86, whilst Senna was driving the lotus, he was probably chugging round in a dodgy Zak speed or something 😁
@JustGrown9412 жыл бұрын
'Notorious' @1:33 - this suits to Senna
@Slowshyy11 жыл бұрын
2014's engines of V6 Single Turbo Charged engines will sound completely different to the ones back in the 80s i'm afraid.
@jeales89510 жыл бұрын
The 80's turbos never got anywhere near 15,000rpm, they relied on boost rather than revs to increase power output
@cs512tr12 жыл бұрын
@hadabenz V12 man i agree.
@argh198911 жыл бұрын
Throughout their history these engines peaked in power at around 11.000 to 12.500 rpm...
@PassagesMusic_12 жыл бұрын
@JRRacing85 Might be reading it into it a bit much there mate.
@AlejjSi12 жыл бұрын
@JRRacing85 Maybe...but lets see, that Brundle was the only real opposition Senna had in 1983 in the British F3 and they both got into F1 in 1984. Both nearly won a GP that year(Senna at Monaco, Brundle at Detroit), but Brundle than had his accident and also Tyrrell team was banned for using lighter cars. And that spoiled surely Martin´s career. He had the talent, as in 1988 he replaced Mansell in Belgium and dominated the wet qualifing on friday...
@ccanaves11 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is a V6 turbo but actually NOTHING like the ones that are coming in 2013.
@ccanaves7 жыл бұрын
Berger is so likeable!
@amsterdamG2G13 жыл бұрын
@hadabenz me too!!!! SENNA 4 EVER!!!!
@LogiForce8611 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, this makes me wonder what F1 teams would do without regulations. Maybe a W24 engine with Quad Turbo Supercharger setup reaching up to 1500HP or higher. 8 speed gearbox. 4 rear wheel drivetrain (for more grip surface to transfer all the torque in lowspeed cornering). Etcetera...! I can only dream of the weird creations teams might come up with, but it would be interesting to see all these new concepts compete with each other, rather then the basically the same cars due to regulations. :)
@JoeBorg111 жыл бұрын
yep, you're right. it's very hard to evenly cool 12 cylinders.
@molinobeer11 жыл бұрын
V12 were in fact prohibited because they were a platform that allowed to produce way to power. FIA wanted slower and safer cars. For example, when from 1995 to 2000, the teams were changing from a v12 to a v10 engines with the same displacement, power output always went down.
@Sortsylic11 жыл бұрын
That's it, man. At least one said it.
@JoeBorg111 жыл бұрын
it's more of the fact it's running at 5 bar than the V6. i think it's actually a dumpvalve you can hear.
@mrcoogs8612 жыл бұрын
@hadabenz I understand that he 2013 cars will be 1600cc turbos. Unfortunately I can't help bring Senna back
@Slowshyy11 жыл бұрын
Plus it's a completely different engine, tech and block altogether!
@Stevelangdon9310 жыл бұрын
They still have on board computers, to control ignition and fueling...
@prochrgedLT111 жыл бұрын
Right. They fell to 4.0 bar boost regulations in '87. Then down to 2.5 bar for '88 before they were killed off. It'll never happen again with the 2014 engines but I vote for going backwards. Less aero, a lot of power, manual gearbox, and hell throw some more power in there for good measure.
@georgemenking982511 жыл бұрын
This car will be in Project Cars
@STEFAZON50010 жыл бұрын
Coolest cigarette ad on 4 wheels
@FrapsYou11 жыл бұрын
Do you work for any F1 teams? All of sudden you're an f1 expert now lol. I hope its gonna be fine.
@CommieFritzTheGreat10 жыл бұрын
like it?
@MrTann201011 жыл бұрын
yup, Benetton :) Probably with the most powerful engine (BMW) too
@antonysmith19817 жыл бұрын
I know driving an f1 game 2013 is not the same thing but as soon as i tried this car not driven nothing else feels better than 2014 cars for sure
@gabrielvarela57 жыл бұрын
Arky Dark drive it in assetto corsa with a steering wheel. It's marvellous
@hmdwgf14 жыл бұрын
@Jyllenberg Two Tribes by Frankie Goes to Hollywood
@JoeBorg111 жыл бұрын
these revved much less than 15000. but they will sound different due to the much longer intake, the single turbo and long exhaust.
@jajaisjagut11 жыл бұрын
Well the RedBull X1 would be close to impossible to be driven at the limit thanks to the high g-forces etc. ;-)
@JG5420610 жыл бұрын
They only revved to about 12k back then.
@JoeBorg111 жыл бұрын
the boost is set very low here, the left gauge is hardly moving. amazing car though, there are reports of 6 bar in quali.
@crusherbmx11 жыл бұрын
Which is still a lot more RPM than these engines could do.
@B__L11 жыл бұрын
They've reduced the size/cylinders in the engine to reduce costs. Do you really think 24 V12s are gonna do that much damage?