BRUTAL 1950 FINISH, Hungary Air Controller MINMAX

[@KokenyRichard]

Send it to BitterSteel as a disaster save to see if he can save it. I'm pretty sure he would love some 1950s chaos. It was very fun to watch.

[@blueowln]

It would be cool if there was a KZbinr how will always make long videos like this instead of 20 minutes videos theses types of videos are really helpful and entertaining

[@qazaq1991]

iirc Taureor used to do that years ago

[@ridic987]

@@qazaq1991 yeah but you would get 20 minutes into the video, just to find out he was going to cheese half the game from there using pretty unfun exploits.

[@tobiasvlogs2295]

youtube advertise shorter videos more now even if you like longer videos

[@Beastlyjoke]

Bittersteel does that in most of his videos

[@Ananas-280]

​@@ridic987agreed

[@swamperino8450]

Renouncing the treaty of Trianon allows you to skip the military focuses the same way allying with Italy does, while also giving you corez in Romania

[@knpark2025]

I love how you held onto this game for much longer after things turned bad, and included the part where you lose. It was so satisfying to see how one can lose a video game but still have so much fun in the progress. You are a man of your word, Dave, you did min-max your playthrough for having fun.

[@PopeSixtusV]

Maybe the best HOI4 video I've seen in a long time. That was a JOURNEY. Thanks for bringing us along for the ride.

[@Vaelosh466]

Other than balance, I always figured that civilian economy also represents the government having less direct control over production, so it has to either go through normal government contracting processes to build anything itself or has to incentivize the private sector to build new factories on its own, thus the penalties to both kinds.

[@FeedbackGaming]

ANOTHER 7 DAYS? Lets go!

[@xeanderman6688]

Please rest properly

[@milossreckovic1410]

Love u Dave

[@PaladinElliott]

Dave I know I said do A-Z but it’s almost Christmas (my birthday) so I command you to take break

[@Kukryniksy1974]

Le fishe au chocolate

[@Jahanceltic]

Chill (I know you already recorded like 3 but stop)

[@TexanNative]

You made me cry with how long it took you to core your own territory (southern Slovakia, north Transylvania) especially while you were trying to mobilize manpower. It would have only took you 70 days and you waited till nearly the end of 1940 :(

[@FeedbackGaming]

Please don't cry 😢

[@bosszhevsky3066]

@@FeedbackGaming😂

I fking love these kinds of chill videos. Hungary is a lot of fun when you go Austro-Hungary, so seeing you play them semi-historical is very interesting to me.

[@joskarifinaukr6503]

I haven't done much with Hungary yet, is it possible to reform Austro-Hungary with a fascist government, or do you have to go monarchist for it?

@@joskarifinaukr6503 I think you have to go Monarchist. But you can form the AHE as Czechoslovakia and Austria as well, no matter the ideology. The communist name for the AHE is absolutely hilarious btw.

[@joskarifinaukr6503]

@ Thanks for the tip! Doing it as Austria will be a Hel of a challenge with the generic tree.

[@FeedbackGaming]

00:00 Arms Against Tyranny Hungary 1:25 Hungary starting steps hoi4 4:00 Air controller Hungary 10:30 Exploit to rush Hungary 19:15 Basic 1936 fighter design 26:20 How to send air volunteers 27:00 How to min-max plane designs 34:10 Aces in hoi4 44:40 Fix ai non aggression bugs 51:00 How fuel works in hoi4 56:10 Plane design min-maxing 1:01:45 What does air superiority do? 1:03:25 Best plane design 1940 1:19:55 Best CAS design in hoi4 1:21:25 How to make rubber in hoi4? 1:48:15 Upgrade bug in hoi4 1:56:00 BRUTAL CAS damage 2:02:00 0 Manpower germany 2:18:00 Dday everyday 2:21:45 How to nuke in hoi4 2:23:40 Disaster save time 2:26:00 Total loss's 2:28:00 F

[@FelipeTempestad17]

The Rome protocol strategy would be good if not by the fact that Germany doesn't get the cores in Austria around 37, and only removing the trianon a little early is not worth it for me 😅

[@PlvsVltra-ji3rs]

Man you've been killing it with these long videos. I truly enjoy them, so thank you for putting 'em together.

[@killroy123]

Keep doing this series! I love watching you have fun and finding new things when you're trying to have fun. That cas damage discovery was so cool!

[@wrath187]

Dave is having big fun, love the long form videos.

[@FeedbackGaming]

Thanks buddy

[@FieldMedic4077]

That was fantastic, the struggle was real! That was a lot of fun watching you trying to save the Axis AI from itself.

[@Anhoranka]

Fantastic playthrough. I was really surprised to see that Germany without Austria was that weak.

[@FeedbackGaming]

Weak and buggy :(

[@sandercohen5543]

I've noticed they've made quite a few changes to aircraft recently: Among which is that weight now affects agility directly, rather than speed (which i really like). They've also changed a bunch of stats for the modules, which makes extended fuel tanks superior to drop-off tanks (depending on how highly you value air defence), seeing as they're cheaper and lighter, and the armor penalty is quite small. Turrets are also way, WAY better nowadays, granting agility on certain missions, which helps mitigate the tradeoff for making your aircraft heavier, but they reduce your speed (because turrets are not very aerodynamic) as a tradeoff. Traditionally, turrets were kinda shit cause they would reduce your agility flat out, which is a stat that is very important on many missions. For the same reason you would not get the maximum amount of bombs you could carry, you would not put any turrets on your bombers, because it reduced their agility too much. At least for the turrets, this is no longer the case. An interesting fact about aircraft in real-life is that their thrust-to-weight ratio doesn't *really* affect their maximum speed that much, unless they have WAY more thrust than they need, but what it does affect is how high they can fly. The higher up in the atmosphere you get, the more speed is required to maintain the same amount of "lift" force from the wings pushing against the air. This means that a plane with a higher thrust-to-weight ratio is going to be able to fly higher up in the atmosphere. Because the engine is also dependent on air resistance as it's "fuel", it also means your thrust gets reduced the higher up you go, meaning a rotor engine needs to spin faster, or have a greater effective surface-area of their rotor blades to maintain its altitude. High-altitude air breathing jet engines just substitute some of the air for a more fuel-rich combustion (to a point). Incidentally, this is why jet planes in hoi4 require more fuel than rotor's, whereas in real life, even back in the 1940's, a "turbofan" jet engine would get better fuel economy simply because of its ability to maintain level flight at a higher altitude (rotors can kinda "bunny hop" to higher altitudes, but they gradually lose momentum). Rotors remain more efficient at lower altitudes to this day. So TLDR: Jet's are less efficient than rotors, but allow you to avoid drag, which more than makes up for this. If paradox wanted, they could make altitude a game mechanic, which would make unarmed scout and naked bomber planes much more viable, because they would be so light they would just fly above other planes, which also means their average speed would be higher (less air resistance). All in all though, i really like this update. They could also do something with max speed, where stuff like bomb locks or other externally mounted hardware would make your craft less aerodynamic, reducing speed, while the integrated bomb bay will not, but reduces agility cause the structural integrity is weaker, so the plane can't withstand high G-force. Game balance vs realism, as always... but i see so much potential to marry them, and the devs have have built such a solid foundation in hoi4... i can't help but stay optimistic XD

[@FeedbackGaming]

From testing it's always better to get near the weight limit than it is to gain the extra agility from reducing the weight. The agility change for turrets is interesting

[@Joshua429]

@DaveFeedBackGaming how often is it that A.l Poland lasts to 1940

[@GOGPlays]

This channel with Bittersteel are my favorite HOI4 channels tbh. I play Hungary exactly the same way. It can be a real game changer for Axis easily.

[@markbaldwin352]

Got to say I am loving these longer play episodes and this one is superb! Watched from start to finish, like the rest you have done. Superb viewing and content!! Keep up the good work mate!

[@negan8426]

Most fun hoi4 videos lately

[@zmatt89]

One of the best vids yet, an absolutely buck wild run. I am one of those noobs who who (now used to) attach planes to an army and wonder why they didn’t do anything. Seems like microing the planes continues to be the way. Absolutely insane seeing how much damage you see from concentrating in single zones

[@MrCalls1]

2:09:46 there is really no end. Well in fairness Dave, there’s a reason Orwell wrote a book about a war that could never end. It really did seem conceivable with ww2 at the time.

[@jorgefreitas5983]

From "Every Single Click 2.0" to "30 Minutes of Hell - Hungary Edition"! OMG this game was intense! If you had access to any more land - say pushing through the soviet union instead of letting Germany do it - you'd have been fine, I believe. I can't wait to see the next games. Well Played!

[@robertgyiran]

As a Hungarian, when I see a 2,5 hour long HOI4 Hungary from you, I start to sing the song: "Horthy Miklós katonája vagyooooooooook, legszebb katooooonááááááája"

[@FeedbackGaming]

The most Hungary

[@shanegraham3041]

Super fun to watch! Thanks, Dave.

[@paladamashkin8981]

Dave had so much fun on this video

[@derekjones6984]

Learning so much from these videos. Crazy how deep HOI is. Great video Dave.

[@TakaTURGUT]

that was a great run pal, thanks! i would love to watch more gameplays like this.

[@MrBulldog855]

Also, with the massive amounts of agility you were getting from agility bonuses, you probably could have negated the negative effects of having cannons or anti-tank cannons. I know back seat playing, but just a thought.

[@FeedbackGaming]

Needs to be tested. Data not found

[@russellhagan2539]

I love these! I’m going to try this with mountaineers to help with those balken mountains!

[@stepheningram6415]

I do love mass mobilization as a minor. Never thought to pair it with CAS. I’m going to give that a shot. Great video. Fought down to the last man. What a chad.

[@allinaxford]

This video reminds me how important field hospitals support is as games go long.

[@MrBulldog855]

While coming across army xp is probably really difficult, you probably could have benefitted from going into ranger special forces to get the bonuses to mountian attack and defense from ranger recon.

[@KCmasterpiece2]

Glad you're feeling better man, and thank you for another glorious Everu Single Click

[@scotch_mist]

That was a marathon game! Good job Dave!

[@tarik5500]

dave, you are becoming the arumba of our times :) thank you for all those vids lately.

[@LandGoats]

Worth watching till the end, love your stuff!

[@baronemaximus4467]

1:17:18 - i was so worried... Dave hadn't said "eye wathering" once xD

[@cameron4562]

2:28:25 *Capitulates* *Allies at war with Commintern* Dave: I ain't heard no bell!

[@Cazlarr]

Normally I don't watch every single click, but you having big fun is so infectious that I had big fun watching this ❤

[@davidsafayee9072]

The Soviet planes didn't live long enough to have accidents Dave

[@512TheWolf512]

If you're gonna be upgrading your equipment a lot, like refitting planes, don't forget to research the conversion tech in the industry tab. It boosts that equipment conversion speed, when before it only boosted factory rebuilding to/from civ/mil.

[@tenanaciouz]

just want to say dave loving all this long form content you've been putting out, considering i largely stumbled across and watched you from your really old videos where you were doing forming polynesia or central america. i know these can't last forever but i appreciate you going in dept with so many nations and showing the "Mid level minors" as i would call hungary and others some love. Feel like people either focus on majors or super small minors where it's a challenge to do anything other than not die

[@Qwerty-of4cy]

Dave is having big fun and you can tell!!!!

[@robertmu]

thanks dave for the entertainment

[@kyallokytty]

I've been thinking about the independent branch for airforce. You're paying 50 exp for 0.1 daily... meaning you're taking 1 and a half years to get to a net 0 it adds up, sure, but if you take it day 1 you're getting 250 net exp by 42. 200 if you switch it to something else like, it's not bad per say but what about the one that gives discount for your doctrine? 5 doctrines and you've gone to a net 0 already, and that can happen quite fast if you're engaged in battle or industry liasons(10% research speed for airframe models) that lets you build better planes slightly faster(its better if you're rushing and taking ahead of time penalty)

[@FeedbackGaming]

Honestly you're right. Its a tough call. To make the most of the XP officer corp ya gotta get it in 1936. Industry liasons only issues I only take advanage of it for very short windows so I tend to think its not cost effective

[@kyallokytty]

​​​@@FeedbackGaming I was doing maths now(and trying to understand how research bonus work) and you might be right. it saves like 20 days of research, maybe a little bit more if you're taking ahead of time penalty but my brain melted trying to figure out how to calculate that edit: oh and also you can right click on aces to unnasign them

[@pukas8885]

Best vid yet :) loving the "historicalish" formula!

[@jep1st]

Watched it all in one go, gg :D I think this strategy would've been better with the Austria-Hungary path because of all the extra cores and then join the Axis. A-H gets so much more factories and manpower than normal Hungary.

[@Monksy1337]

I think requesting control of some Soviet land would have allowed you to increase participation, for your collab to count I believe you need to have above 51% participation which is why with full collab the Soviets weren't near capitulation after losing multiple capitals

[@dooomninja]

i really feel like air works better if you spit the rolls. so fighter-bombers are worse than fighter and bombers separately. fighters made to be powerful enough to keep air supremacy and dog fight really well, where as cas is better focusing on ground attack/price so aa does less compared to the damage dealt in return. it could also be interesting to test if air defence or agility does anything verses aa as an idea i would love to see you play with a focus of heavy planes, maybe Canada. thinks for the interesting vid as always

[@billybill1272]

Pretty sure the collaboration governments only reduce surrender threshold if you’re directly occupying the territory. I found this out the hard way lol.

[@mattcole1977]

Best video Dave you've made.

[@philipbenson5235]

Loving this content feedback thank you for suffering for us ❤️

[@TooHarD12]

man this vid is 2.5h long but i really enjoyed it, like i thought i will be bored after 30 mins but i sit straight till the end

[@paladamashkin8981]

It's worth the long video to see the ride Dave

[@Hu55ar]

I love these really long videos, I would love for them to continue, the addiction never stops..

[@RichardMontgomeryYT]

How did i just sit and watch this for over 2 hours?

[@Fish_Pig]

Excellent video

[@CFBPSU]

How much land would Hungary need. To get enough plane production to be the only plane producer. In the European theater in a multiplayer game?

[@Leviazel]

I think the reason your collaborations didn't work is because you werent the one who declared war on the soviet union. I've noticed that collabs only seem to work if you were the one who declared war.

[@vincentschrama749]

Really been loving the content Feedback!

[@simonweids6562]

This was the best HOI vid I’ve ever seen! Great stuff! GG

[@Patrick_3751]

Dave you mad lad, what an amazing game! I think you should send this to Bitt3rSteel and see if he can save it!

[@Qwerty-of4cy]

I swear you said 'this is the sign of the begining of the end' like 9 times, i suppose the beginings never began until the last one

[@FeedbackGaming]

Ha very true. Big foreshadowing

[@Drazja]

Feedback thank you this video killed half my drive to Niagara

[@logiczchance101]

It would have been nice to keep the faction, expand it and see where it takes you.

[@semamet]

27:26 is there a downside to adding 2 or more engines? other than the cost ofc

[@RejonMunchausen]

looks like my afternoons viewing is covered

[@jacobvega4868]

this was EPIC! thanks for the vid

[@SoldierGeneral64]

Over 2 hours? Going to have to check back and watch this in full later lol

[@KingofDiamonds117]

Everytime I try to play historical as hungary, germany declares war on everyone and gets absolutely destroyed by the allies.

[@512TheWolf512]

Going heavily into strat bombers can be a hell of a riot... Especially in multiplayer

[@Aye_its_Kiel]

Left hand on the mouse, right hand on…oh wait I heard that wrong 😂

[@j.m.f5451]

I do not know how or why, but it made me laugh when I saw at 1:12:28 "Designed by: Swedish Ball Bearing Trade".

[@iwantcrawfish6110]

this was awesome Dave

[@wastelander89]

Yes we can. Loved thoa video the longer the better .thanks for all the time and effort you put into the content 👍💯

[@caboosehelpsu2840]

It would have been really cool if this was with Road to ‘56 with more technology and post 1945 focus trees.

[@silvle01]

That was bonkers! Amazing video

[@brandonsansom514]

Did you add maintenance companies in Divs you gain 5% captions equipment

[@atiliusz8656]

so if you do a collab on somebody you have to control their capital (in this case moscow) to the collab take effect ;) either way great video again

[@ValorianAldyr]

It's so nice to see you having fun. Play something you enjoy, try something new, it's much more entertaining. :)

[@demnadamnn4001]

wow, great game dave thanks for suffering for us i respect that

[@eetfukk420]

I made it to the end, and you shoulda stuck it to the Commintern! 😂😂

[@FeedbackGaming]

Came really close

[@eetfukk420]

@@FeedbackGaming I love these long videos... they're good for listening to when I sort/build lego... I'm due for a hoi4 binge... it's just so hard to keep up with what's what... My last game was in version Barbosa I think... Was a game dripping in console commands, to the point where I was bouncing around different nations beefing them up with rounds of ALE command... wanted to take over the entire world as Germany and make Italy watch... 🤣 It's gonna be a bit of a slobber knocker with Russia I think... I built them a massive navy with hopes they mess with Japan, but nothing.... Probably the furthest way possible most people play the game... Best fun I ever had tho... 🤷‍♂️

[@mikailkarabacak1721]

You are probably knowing this but collab governments works if you occupy the land directly. I mean if you were the one controlling Moscow rather than Romania, capitulation progress would be higher. This is just a little reminder. Thanks for the video Dave. Stay safe PS: I'm not sure if Romania or Germany willing to give Russia's land though, if you would requested to having control of those lands

[@tredbobek]

17:00 feel like that scene from Wolfenstein where the nazi soldier questions the two KKK members. "You are butchering my beautiful language"

[@v1taaax116]

cheeky shenanigans is what i want to see

[@extrage3061]

Something that I have noticed is that idk why but the USSR is MUCH harder to beat, maybe I am worse at the game than before or they have been given bonuses?

[@phantom5797]

That was awesome!!!

[@Toralen]

Enjoyed playing along

[@UpNorthDere]

RIP Pebbles!

[@xben9216]

17:01 It never gets old when someone who is not hungarian tries to say our words (in this case a city name). 😆

[@eric6482]

Honestly a lot of potential for an air rework !

[@RandooGaming]

anyone notice how spain was slowly stealing france lol

[@RickSanchez-zb2bh]

2h30min oh my I have something to watch 😮

[@welluhwhatdoyouwantm]

It just goes to show that often you have to fight the interface, and Paradox has never made a good AI.

[@AlexWehpunkt]

I tried to play along this a bit and struggle with the ethiopia strat. It says something like "Ethiopia has capitulated" with "The ethiopian gouvernment has gone into exile" and ""Italy is still at all-out war", but I can't join the war anymore and the info on the country says it's not at war anymore? THX very much!

[@MrCalls1]

1:00:13 with so much talk of ratios, I think might make an enormous cake

[@FeedbackGaming]

Ratio

[@Qwerty-of4cy]

when you added the rocket rails the mio no longer applied to the plane, so you didnt get any mio bonuses, its a good strat if you have more mios like germany or the uk but otherwise you dont get any bonuses from the mio edit: or at least when you first added them untill you added engine 4 it showed that on mio was assignable to the production line maybe was just a glitch

[@FeedbackGaming]

Interesting. Do you know why the MIO didn't apply anymore?

[@Qwerty-of4cy]

@@FeedbackGaming No clue, maybe it is a light airframe fighter mio or smth and cas didnt fit the role

[@ldmb1966]

great vid dave, love this series

[@koragg3399]

this was one epic game. i had some fun wile watching pplayinmg kingdom of Norway went pretty well. sad to see you loose. but man there is only so much a man can do.