BSA Gold Star | Affordable Retro Vibes

[@77archibald]

I bought one as a second Sunday ride bike. For that, it's perfect. I fitted Hagon shocks, a de-cat exaust, plus fuel optimiser. Those mods improve the bike no end. As you kept pointing out, it's a 5k bike and built to a price. Mine puts a smile on my face every time I ride it. Yes, there have been issues with some bikes, as there have been with some European and Japanese bikes over the years. What mine does for me is to take me back to basics, and a time when bikes were just bikes, and not ridiculously technological and unaffordable. It's cheap and great fun. I love mine.

[@LambChopRides]

Yes exactly my thinking! 👍

[@dayvidmathews1182]

Mines fab no way would I sell it ❤ ps it also does the ton 👍

[@Opnmdjxkxmmff]

I looked, as a second bike then bought a Triumph 400X. Fantastic looks, but I think they are running the engine so lean for the emissions, it needs a remap.

[@Oscar240z]

Please do more bikes at the lower end of the price spectrum! Bikes in the 40-90 bhp range are more than enough for our congested potholed roads that rarely have more than a 5 mile stretch of raid between 30 mph limits. Love the channel

[@deanfullford8820]

Good to see you doing some different styles of bikes Chopsie. Don’t want to be only known as the sports bike reviewer. I personally would rather see reviews of these than the skyscraper high hyper-motards or adventure bikes that I would need a ladder to ride

[@davidmacgregor5193]

I own a Gold Star 650 Legacy Edition, the one with lots of chrome and no, tacky go faster stripes. The first mod I did was to swap out the stock rear shocks for a pair of Girling fully enclosed units, they suit the style of the Goldie better and vastly imprfove the handlin g and road holding. My second mod was to replace the modern looking horn with a 1950's replica Lucas style horn. The Gold Star 650 is a great machine to own and ride, people that I meet are always complementing the BSA's styling, it is a keeper.

[@neilfordham5790]

I bought mine a year ago (full price) and had quite a few problems with it cutting out, warning lights etc but Alf’s at Worthing sorted it all out for me and now I love it. It’s a keeper and that is what people should realise. When they are sorted they are great bikes, economical, easy to service and easy to live with.

[@jerrywines382]

Nice review. I'm enjoying mine so much I've hardly ridden my zx12r this year. It's such an easy bike to ride on today's roads littered with pot holes and 50mph limits, which my zx12r is really hard work on. After owning big sportsbikes for over 25 years I never imagined I could have so much fun on a 45bhp 55Nm single.

[@davidlutton4560]

I know it's a bike that typically falls outside the scope of your channel, but you do have a knack for respecting this bike for what it is and reporting on its characteristics in a very unbiased manner, so well done you. I'm tempted to say there maybe is scope on your channel to review other machines such as this, as there's clearly a market out there for them and potential buyers will undoubtedly appreciate it. It's not a bike for me, but it is british and is a nice looking thing, so thanks for the insight and entertainment. Take care.

[@SteveSmith-hw7kb]

I too have one and I think it's a cracking little bike. You need to accept it for what it was intended for; mine makes me smile every time I ride it. The engine light on mine goes off for some time, then comes on for a bit before going again; the fuel map needs work for our climate but it's nothing to worry about. I will confess this isn't my only bike as I need an all year commuter plus an adrenalin fix bike. I bat around A and B roads on mine at a respectful rate of knots and get over 70mpg from it: what's not to like!

[@nickrider5220]

Have to agree with you Chopsy, it can be alot of fun riding a slower bike. Honest, fun and affordable bikes are the way ahead. Modern life is so expensive, houses eat huge amounts of people's salaries, basic bikes are still fun and will get more people on 2 wheels. Expensive bikes are self limiting, a dead end, only a small percentage of riders can afford them and huge performance isn't a guarantee of more enjoyment ....

[@mpicanza4491]

Your perspective on retro bikes is very interesting, please do more content. 🙂

[@LambChopRides]

OK will do thanks 😁👍

[@TheLudojay]

Good idea​@@LambChopRides

[@essexboydave]

Good to see a bit of variation on the channel 👍 And an honest review as always I have a 350 Enfield classic in my collection which on paper is terrible but im sure it’s the same as this BSA in which if you put it in the right environment it’s the best bike ever “small back roads” and don’t expect to much from it and you will never be disappointed

[@Sweetasanut]

Yes to the retro theme please

[@paulfowler7618]

Good to see you reviewing bikes like this. Last year I decided to buy my first retro at the age of 51. I was all set to buy the BSA because as a kid I used to love Boon(remember that program?) and he had an old BSA which partly got me into bikes but these were actually 6.5 grand last year. In the end and after watching lots of KZbin reviews I changed my mind and decided on the RE interceptor instead(partly due to the Missenden Flyers love of the Interceptor)I found one secondhand with under 500 miles on and about a grands worth of mods for £5000 and love it. However had the BSA been £5000 back then Id probably have one now as part of me still wishes I bought the BSA. Oh and yes can you and Greg do a back to back with these bikes. Id love that. Wishing you a early happy new year 👍

[@nickclimpson9812]

Hi Chops, love the content, nice to see a relatively local channel (I live in Hampshire). I bought one back in the summer for a great price, I could write an essay on it but suffice to say I absolutely love mine. Ride safe 👍

[@f19ash]

With a few choice mods you can turn these modern classics into something quite special that you’ll never want to part with and that will put a smile on your face every time you ride it.

[@steveparish9210]

1970 colonial cycle sales in Orlando, Florida had an original gold star for 900 bucks which was a lot of money back then especially for a used bike me and my friend s lusted after that bike but we were kids 😊This bike really looks good and sounds like it performs really well too. Five thousand and a 4 year warranty sounds like a real bargain, if BSA hangs around awhile. Thanks Chopsie! I hope they make it

[@jimmarshall807]

Nice change from the fast stuff, variety is the spice etc.!

[@ProphetAndLoss]

I’d love one for the looks and the charm, but the reliability issues reported around stops me. Engine light on suddenly already? Not a good start.

[@Macc1]

"Shake rattle and roll"...! (The BSA Bantam 175 CC D10 Sport ruled the roost in my day.) A couple of L Plates: an insurance Certificate, "Learner(?!) Driving Licence", and the road was all yours!

[@Tony-ug1mv]

Enjoyed your review of the BSA, keep them coming👍

[@mrflores7708]

"I think I'd lose my licence on the new V4 Panigale with all that power". Says the man with a turbo Kawasaki H2 😂

[@LambChopRides]

Haha yeah...

[@simondepass4647]

🤣🤣🤣

[@-old-school-motorcyclesltd]

I have the legacy from 2023 It’s a lovely bike no issues with mine The engine management light can be reset easily. Oh its Birmingham Small Arms 😊 Very good Vlog by the way 😊😊

[@martyndunn1905]

Definitely more modern retro content chopsy 👍

[@billienomates1606]

Looks like a lot on the 2nd hand market less than a year or so old with very few miles being sold. I would think there is a reason or two for the sales!

[@SPM1966SPM]

Nice review Chopsy. I had a 500cc version back in the 70's. This modern version is still a good looking bike. Thanks for posting.

[@henrymarkey6940]

for the money it looks stunning if you want something different and sometimes you dont allways want to go fast

[@royhuxley8903]

I HAVE THE LEGACY MODEL. ITS A KEEPER. DON’T LET THE PRESS PUT YOU OFF.

[@pinkiewerewolf]

Very nice look at the BSA. I'm happy to see you give some love to the retro bikes. I added a Royal Enfield Bullet 500 this past Summer. The Bullet is such a pleasant bike to meander about on. Great change from the T-7, Ultra Classic, Husky 501 and 401 Svartpilen in the garage.

[@CrouchyOnBikes]

Nice review Chops, I’d be interested in more retro reviews. Like a lot of bikers, the sort of bike you can easily have as a second or third bike and an antidote to modern machinery

[@LambChopRides]

OK great thanks 👍

[@MotoBikerMike]

Really enjoyed this video Chops! Looks like the bike took you by surprise with how fun it was 😁 Damn good value for money I would say 🤘🏽 (and with the 4yrs warranty!)

[@LambChopRides]

Yes absolutely Mike 👍

[@steveottavaino3804]

Would love to see a retro comparison, especially from a view point of one not truly into them. There’s still no one doing better motorcycle reviews BTW. As I’ve aged I’m tending towards retro/cruisers (owing a ‘20 T120 Diamond Edition and a ‘23 R18 100 Years Anniversary) with my ZX14 up for sale. Riding about without ones ass on fire is actually therapeutic, seeing the environment instead of a continual blur is a refreshing change worth experiencing. Thank you for many years of entertaining content, be well and a very healthy and happy New Year for you and yours!!!

[@garybrown4854]

How about this , get em to lend you one long term and do a tune up and a bit of customization with whats available , also compare it to the RE 450 , must admit I've been fancying one of these only thing with it was they took so long to bring to the market and RE and Triumph have kind of got the retro British market tied up , meaning its a difficult market to sell an unknown bike into . Personally I think they should have started with a BSA A10 650 twin rep as a starter or even a 750 to up the game with the RE 650 its main rival . Anyway nice to get an aging hooligans point of view on the retro scene , keep it coming Chopsy loved it .

[@danielleclare2938]

My 15 Green Z1000 has effortless everywhere power but I can ride it slow and relaxed in town... well mostly, sort of... Seriously owning the power is just as enjoyable as having it just keep in mind the time and place that you are in.

[@MrSmileyshaun]

Nice review good idea especially with the Royal Enfeild

[@alanshearing7515]

Was surprised that it rides so well for the price. Look pretty cool too , seems to have a nice balance of proportions. The engine look great . Thanks for showing us this bike Chops 👍.

[@ianthomas1305]

Would definitely be interested in more retro content. 👍👍

[@flyjayUK]

I'm loving all the choice currently on offer around £5k. Really fancy something slower for pottering around the back roads in the Dales. The Enfield Classic really takes my fancy, but I love the look of this one. Wish Triumph T100/120 were a bit cheaper. Then there's things like CT Moto, Voge or the huge range of smaller engined bikes from Enfield.

[@martinturner9296]

Nice one chops . Love the first ride review. More of this sort of bike review. Affordable real world motorcycle. 👏👏

[@LambChopRides]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks will do 👍

[@shadowred1980]

I think for many of us, who have a supersport in the garage. Something like this or the triumph 400, could be interesting. Your perspective on them will be useful. From RE the guerrilla 450 could be a good match.

[@markbaker5221]

Hi Chops Let’s see some retro comparisons, at 52 myself I am thinking of some retro for the future. Where I can go out and just chill while not worrying about loosing points on my license. Good shout 👍🏻

[@ricatiman]

It's a great looker. Unfortunately it's not on sale here in Canada. I really like the styling of the front hub and brake. From a distance it looks more retro thanks to the black disc mounts, complete with real Brembos. It sounds pretty good too, and the price is attractive. With 4 years of warranty I would be interested, if only they were available. Keep up the fabulous vlogging. Happy New Year!

[@blueyondermoto]

Great idea Chopsie, as someone else has said your riding style (and mine) is very different to most "retro" reviewers, so yes, bring on that comparison with Gregorio. All very relatable.

[@LambChopRides]

OK buddy will do 👍😁

[@glyncoates8253]

Love my retro bikes. And a review on a triumph bonnieville t100. Would be great if you can get one 👍

[@humanbeing1675]

I like the bike but who had the terrible idea to mount the rear light and the plate below the rear fender?!

[@twowheelsoneleg5672]

Looks great and I wish them well, lots of tales of woe online but hopefully they will get it sorted. Personally I reckon the Interceptor is a better buy at the moment but great to see a BSA back in the market(and on the channel)

[@CanenMyst]

BSA Birmingham Small Arms

[@tileproplus]

Beautiful looking retro motorcycle as you say. I spoke with BSA at ABR and asked if this was powered by a Rotax engine and they catagorically said NO. The Rotax engine is a 652 cc water cooled single cylinder with a 4 valve DOHC. It has all of the characteristics that you describe so it can't be, can it?

[@LambChopRides]

I believe it is the Rotax engine... But can't be sure..

[@Bikerboy-vg6se]

The Bsa is a 652cc single with water cooled engine and 4 valve DOHC same as old rotax fitted in BMW 650. Whether it is built by rotax or just a copy built in india is the question I would like answering. Rotax built engines were/are very reliable.

[@cecilwilson5442]

Nice fair review on the bike a second hand one's going to be looking attractive 😉,, but for now my K6GSXR and SV 1000 will have to do,,, Happy New Year from Northern Ireland,,safe riding,,☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️

[@luddite6239]

That seems the ideal bike for lazily burbling along the lanes around Hambldon and Soberton. Almost makes me want to cancel my SORN early and get back on the road! I do like the look of the BSA. They've really nailed the vintage look, even down to the clocks. If you'd taken a black and white photo of this by the old phone box outside the Isaak Walton in East Meon, you'd think it was 1953 again!

[@LambChopRides]

Haha Phone box idea is great! 👍

[@braaaaaaaaaaap]

Chopsey keeping the channel exciting. Rooting for you bro! I'd love to ride someday. Hit me up if you come near Maryland, USA!

[@78Outlaw]

Certainly as time has gone on Chopsy I'm now leaning towards charm over speed and smiles over *speedos. *not the trunks ooh er missus.. I love the look of the new BSA 65 scrambler they are about to bring out, to go up against the Bear 650 RE. Festive tidings from Scotland John, JB

[@markieell5614]

Enjoying the videos on the modern retros chops , being a z900rs owner myself It would be good to see gregorio & yourself on a comparison video on those kind of bikes All the best for the new year mark 🇬🇧🍺👍🏻

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks Mark!

[@kahidunn7907]

Hey Chops I owned a Yamaha sr 500 in the day and really enjoyed my single days. Would be a pretty cool comparison i reckon

[@johnsteel4719]

A bit like yourself, this is not my type of bike but great to see these affordable bikes being reviewed. Young boys and girls can’t afford the top end stuff plus who doesn’t like the look of a BSA. My dad was a cartographer and rode the length and breadth of the UK on his BSA so this is in my blood and maybe one day I’ll be tootling around on one of these enjoying the scenery rather that constantly watching my speed and looking out for speed cameras….

[@Dan-56]

I think it would be great to see you and Greg do a “budget retro bike” comparison 👍!

[@michaelarchangel1163]

Showing your tenderness in years there fella. The photo you posted was actually of a Rocket Gold Star, the twin, not the single cylinder bike.

[@headrace4863]

Was on those very roads yesterday on my ATAS…. Very enjoyable. I’m sure most of us could see the joy in having something like that in the garage to have a cruise about on or a polish on a nice Sunday. £5k is a bit of a bargain isn’t it. Nice comprehensive review, Chops. 👍

[@LambChopRides]

Couldn't agree more buddy 👍

[@stephenboodle4555]

Greatlooking machine..Great if you are just getting back into bikes and want to get out with friends..👌..with the camera serciaty with live in..i worry every time I take my thou out these days..and the state of our roads..and driving standards..

[@peterwait641]

They had some software issues and loom stretching where tight round frame headstock, expect they ae now sorted.

[@firestorm755]

There's a lot to be said about bikes like this. Not everyone needs 150bhp. It's a potterer and that's just fine. I wonder if they will cater for different markets with maybe a cafe racer (after all the Goldie was one of the original cafe racers) and maybe a trials version which the Goldie also did well. That whole bike is a similar price to the diavel exhaust from the other week!

[@andrewprice1189]

Not available here in Australia😢

[@lestersmyth692]

Very nice and reasonably priced, it deserves to do well. The rear shocks looked stressed out……perhaps tweak the preload next time 😆

[@wattie1050]

Nice one chopsy , decent looking retro , and at 5K not too bad a deal , be ideal for poddling around for odd Sunday run , not sure there's a market for it nowadays but the royal Enfield seem to have found their niche buyers .👍👍 good stuff ! And and all best for the new year .👍

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks Wattie and same to you buddy 👍

[@martinhughes9769]

Like its looks, BSA came on to the market with a bang and then they seemed to go very quite 🤔, it would be good to see a comparison of the bikes

[@toindebas3912]

23:25 Please do the comparison between the interceptor and the goldstar! It’d honestly help out a lot

[@morri03]

No comparison really. The Interceptor has a proper modern engine design and is built by Royal Enfield whereas the BSA is a totally outsourced project with a tarted up version of the old Aprilia Pegaso / BMW F650 engine. If you must have a single or go all weak kneed at the sight of a BSA badge then fair enough. Otherwise the Interceptor is the better bike.

[@farmoboy83]

In Portugal the basic version costs almost 7000eur and the top version over 8000...price point is ridiculous when you have other brands offering similar prices with a lot more specs (triumph, RE, kawazaki and so on).

[@georgesmithholmes202]

What's the name of your intro song

[@MrAndrew1953]

I was interested to see what you would make of this. Mahindra are the Indian owners. The other bike that appeals to me is the Enfield 650 Bear. Could be a good head to head for you and Greg. Maintenance,rego, retro style and appeal, these bikes have a lot going for them. The Enfield 650 Classic is another you could review for riders in the 50-75 demographic interested in these bikes.

[@boostaholic7116]

Great review as always get a go on the new Speed twin RS looks great apart from the new clock...🤣

[@rogerkay8603]

I'd have one now

[@williamsouthworth5275]

Is there a Royal Outfield badge under that BSA Sticker? Any way Happy New Year! Chop'sey! More Great Video's where is Gregg? Thanks!

[@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff]

Birmingham Small Arms 😅. I’d have one for country road rambles.

[@leecbracing]

My father has this bike and has issues since new shame looks ace but a let down in it’s issues shame as I know he likes the bike

[@R-Tap]

Old skool. Saw them at Motorcycle Live, looked nice, Norton is cooler (disregarding price) Great price for BSA though. Nice leather jacket and open face helmet and you are off.

[@ironlionmotorcycles]

You should review the new Royal Enfield Classic 650 (the teal one looks the best!).

[@luddite6239]

As a local boy, Chopsy, are you aware of the Southampton connection with BSA? One of the owners prior to Mahindra was BSA Regal based in Southampton, who acquired the brand in around 1994. (I remember passing their offices in West Quay on my way to the Honda dealer, Rye's.) Between 1997 and 2000 they did a limited run of their version of the Gold Star, which used a Yamaha SR500 engine. Quite a handsome machine - do a Google search and check it out. BSA Regal is still in Southampton today, although it is now solely an engineering company and not involved in bike production. You can see BSA Regal white vans around locally still sporting the red winged BSA logo if you keep your eyes peeled.

[@LambChopRides]

Ever knew that, thanks for the info 👍

[@luisibanez3600]

Ashamed not made no more in England.😢

[@johnharris7353]

To me, it looks good, it sounds good, it goes good and it doesn't cost $25,000 so it is likely good! Don't think its available available here in the states ?

[@LambChopRides]

No apparently not which is a shame 😕 👍

[@davexs]

Not really a bike for me, but what a beautiful classic retro

[@stevehopkinson4871]

A chopsey love it when you ride other bikes rather than sports bikes all the time get ya self an some old school smokers mate that would be great videos

[@LambChopRides]

I would love an old school smoker.... maybe that's the ultimate restro series 🤔

[@stevehopkinson4871]

@ I’m in the process of recommissioning a Kawasaki s3 400 1975 I’m 58 years old and like a kitten with 2 tails

[@willwye410]

No matter how nice it looks or how well it rides I do wonder if there’s sufficient demand for revival of another defunct brand? I fear everyone who wants a new BSA Gold Star may have already bought one and they may struggle to survive against the overwhelming competition from Triumph, Royal Enfield etc. Of course other opinions are available!

[@timothybrockbank7474]

Have you seen the scrambler conversion’s done by Moore speed and Poulson they look really good

[@LambChopRides]

No will look it up 👍

[@timothybrockbank7474]

There’s a few on eBay and tomboy tested one on KZbin quite fancying one myself

[@kevindarkstar]

By my understanding BSA are going to release a scrambler based on the goldstar

[@timothybrockbank7474]

@ yes they look good but the custom bikes are a lot lighter and ( not cheap though )have some tasty mods

[@kevindarkstar]

@@timothybrockbank7474 yeah, but cost at this level is always a point 😉

[@glennturnbull8568]

Didn’t the exhaust on that Ducati you rode recently cost about the same as this BSA Chops? There’s a comparison for you…..

[@LambChopRides]

Yeah absolutely!! 👍

[@BN1960]

Birmingham Small Arms

[@FranciscoSchwartz9]

Best scrap available

[@mickgarbutt3553]

Give the Royal Enfield Continental GT 650 a go. Great fun.

[@BrianMcCann421]

Great Video John, but Royal Enfield, Norton, Triumph and now BSA. Regardless of past glories it's all getting a bit samey. I think the arse has well and truly been torn out of the British retro genre !!

[@andysmith2013]

There are several 2024 Gold stars advertised @£4000 with very low mileage, some in the low hundreds. That's £1000 less than the cheapest Triumph 400.

[@moonrakercbr1649]

Back to back with the RE Interceptor (including roll ons)?

[@LambChopRides]

Yeah sounds like fun to me!! :-)

[@lipsee100]

Nah its been done to death,,, instead Blah an old BSA goldtsar and compare,,maybe addin a Triumph twin in the mix

[@davidellis2021]

Comparison with the Royal Enfield and also the Speet Twin RS to see if it's worth the extra please.

[@essexboydave]

Just to add to my last comment The other big thing you will notice “if you own a bike like this” which I also noticed when I road tested the Norton commando Is they don’t offend anyone So i can ride my Enfield though a town or small village and people look and smile they don’t look at you in disguise like you get if your riding a modern sports bike

[@Kevin-mw9yl]

I like it. I like it a lot..

[@frankkemble2103]

Actually BSA stands for Birmingham Small Arms. That picture that you flashed up supposedly of a Gold star was the wrong bike and that one is actually a Rocket Gold Star (A10) - a 650 twin and not at all the basis for this new BSA Goldstar in any way. To be honest, the new BSA is more like a day to day plodder B33 than Goldstar which was built as an uncompromising sports bike. Other than that, a fair appraisal. I've had an Enfield Interceptor and am thinking of getting one of these.

[@adamwillets1846]

Please. Please. Please review the Royal Enfield Shotgun 650. Would love to know what you think.

[@krishampton7060]

One of these would be quite good to do some traveling on and run into the ground mostly because it’s cheap out the box but as a modern retro calling itself a BSA Gold star which was actually a performance bike of its day, this modern interpretation is suffering from a bit of imposter syndrome I’d say.

[@kevindarkstar]

2:29 and right there is the problem with these and other retro cheap bikes they have loads of sensors which can throw up issues which aren't really issues, I had a meteor 350 a few years ago and that bugger had an engine warning light on about 5 or 6 times, reason oil temp to low!! WTF was eventually sorted by a ecu flash to change the India data on oil temp for cold old England 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@paulbooth1373]

Birmingham Small Arms, Chops.👍

[@ragerider6283]

Interesting review & a good looking bike. Seems decent & for 5K you surely can't go wrong if you're in to classically styled retros. Speaking of which, I'm hoping next year you might get the chance to review the new Triumph Speed twin 1200 RS. Also a comparison with you & Greg on the updated Speed Twin 900 & new Moto Guzzi V7 Sport would be good as they're direct competitors. Maybe not typical for your channel, but both have been significantly updated down the neo-retro route & got quite a bit sportier. Should bring in some more viewers/subs too with a bit of a growing old disgracefully vibe for the old duffers & past it hooligans like me lol. ; )

[@LambChopRides]

Haha absolutely!! I was a bit gutted I wasn't invited on the new RS Speed Twin launch 😕 really like the look of it! Will certainly do those buddy 👍

[@ragerider6283]

@LambChopRides Good to hear, cheers. Looking forward to it. I was also surprised not to see you on that launch too when I saw all the other vloggers that were there. I presumed you couldn't make it. You haven't slagged Triumph off that I can recall lol so maybe they just wanted to mix it up with a different demographic this time? Most manufacturers have finally figured out that vloggers are a good thing, but in doing so, they now seem to be more specifically targetting certain channels that fit that bikes vibe. Maybe you just aren't "retro" enough yet Chops, which is a complement lol. Either way, hopefully you'll get on the next one. : )

[@KevinofWessex]

Royal Enfield never ended

[@bren106]

Could be they've price dropped because of the latest batch of £5ooo bikes that have hit the market this year. The RE Guerilla, the Triumph 400 stuff or even the new Honda GB350S that we're getting soon - although that is a lot less grunt at around 20HP.

[@Lee-70ish]

I think the price drop is because retro buyers dont like the Rotax LC lump, and the sales figures are poor compared to the Enfield 650.

[@nikolasharvey]

BSA have been very clever by fitting the dials upside down,when looking at the needles you’ll get the sense your flying whilst in reality your going 30

[@SpaceMulva]

You’re illiterate.