Ferrari has been successful in the LMGTE class for the past few years. I always hoped Ferrari would go for the LMP class and return to top sports car racing again. Looks like F1 budget cap is a blessing in disguise for us car racing fans.
@asherjoseph43772 жыл бұрын
They just win the championship GT Pro now... 2022
@manwell2352 жыл бұрын
@@asherjoseph4377 what a great back to back victories for the team!
@groundedgaming Жыл бұрын
@@manwell235tell that to Ferrari F1... 😭
@Pilsnor2 жыл бұрын
So they are now in both F1 and LMH, but they save money compared to what they used to spend 🤔 that is pretty impressive, it just goes to show that keeping costs under control is a good thing for diversity in the top classes. Also its good that they found a way to prevent having to fire a ton of employes.
@XLTBlarg2 жыл бұрын
Its crazy that Porsche, Toyota, and Audi were spending more in WEC than half of the F1 teams were. Unsustainable costs killed Group C racing and it killed LMP1 in WEC after Dieselgate.
@hr_pedersen14392 жыл бұрын
Everybody's talking about the 145m$ costcap in f1, but in reality it's WAY more expensive than that. There's plenty of things outside the costcap, including senior management and driver salaries.
@officialhideyo2 жыл бұрын
@@hr_pedersen1439 okay...but the cost cap did reduce the expense significantly...... Else it would be whatever insane price on the car + salaries and what not. Now it's costcap + maybe slightly higher salaries and stuff. Still cheaper...
@hr_pedersen14392 жыл бұрын
@@officialhideyo oh absolutely, it's way cheaper. But it's still nowhere near just the 145mil. Merc, RB and ferarri still have budgets double or more of the teams "hitting the costcap", like Williams, Haas and Sauber. Don't get me wrong, it's gonna become way more equal in the future, especially if Williams and Haas get deals along the line off VW group's Audi entry with Sauber.
@MarcSob222 жыл бұрын
No is not, keep costs is shi...t for the sport!!
@imacompoza2 жыл бұрын
This car is a great example of how different F1 engineers and prototype engineers think
@Artiick2 жыл бұрын
Prototype engineers are like: Yeeee speed and power, downforce is good but speed and power is better. F1 engineers be like: Ye speed and power is good, but downforce and corner speed are better.
@jackvv7572 жыл бұрын
F1 engineers: downforce is God's magic Prototype engineers: downforce is for pussies
@gerogyzurkov22592 жыл бұрын
Prototype and F1 engineers: DF is king and so is tires.
@cbrunnem61022 жыл бұрын
@@Artiick people gotta stop saying "go brrrr". the way you used it doesn't even make sense with how it started.
@isukarse2 жыл бұрын
@@jackvv757 still the prototypes have plenty downforce, but i guess less than lmp1 back in the days or lmp900
@86Digilio Жыл бұрын
Looks like a Le Mans winner to me. 😉 Enjoyed the break down on this 499 and the 963. 👍🏼
@DevKumar-bi2ld6 ай бұрын
Spot on bro, they won in 2023, and now in 2024, twice in a row
@zooot8202 жыл бұрын
as always, great analysis. this car looks mighty fast. i like what they’ve done with their livery also with a touch of yellow. interesting they do not regulate corner downforce
@knotsus54822 жыл бұрын
Ferrari is completely dancing around the rules hear.
@petouser2 жыл бұрын
Yet, there's BoP to make all cars equally quick
@tturi22 жыл бұрын
I'm not the biggest fan of the cost cap in F1, but if its flow on effects are more Motorsports categories get more racing teams, thats awesome and I love the F1 design style rules for the LMH
@asymsolutions2 жыл бұрын
*1 category gets 1 more team. Unfortunately Aston, McLaren, merc and red bull are all doing non racing spending.
@gerogyzurkov22592 жыл бұрын
A fan doesn't even know their sport has a cost cap
@GoldenEDM_20182 жыл бұрын
I'm actually surprised people still watch Formula 1. It's been a sht show for pure entertainment these recent years, hardly a Motorsport anymore. Lmao.
@rexthewolf31492 жыл бұрын
@@GoldenEDM_2018 I can two reasons length an accessibility. It’s easier to watch a live 2 hour race that catch parts of a 6 or 24 hour race. DTS love it or hate it gets f1 in front of people who aren’t into Motorsport already. With out an equivalent the only people who are going to watch wec are Motorsport die hards.
@alvarojneto2 жыл бұрын
The reason why F1 is boring is because you have a very good chance at guessing the champion before the season even begins. The reason why NFL is exciting is because any team, in any given year, can compete for the trophy, since teams have salary caps. Expenses caps should be more widely introduced.
@Ked_gaming2 жыл бұрын
I was born in Le Mans, go there every year now for the race, the combination of F1 cost cap and LMH/LMDH regulation is a treat and I hope more manufacturer come !
@manwell2352 жыл бұрын
I am sure more will join because the rules are standardised now between WEC and IMSA
@milol.akkaraprud8681 Жыл бұрын
This was recommended to me again after they won at Le Mans, FORZA FERRARI❤
@craigjordan17612 жыл бұрын
Very excited to see Ferrari back at Le Mans and in both F1 and WEC.I think Enzo would be proud,I know I am.
@bocahdongo7769 Жыл бұрын
They did
@albertwong57932 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! Wonder if they'll bring the whole play book over and use F-Ducts, DAS, heave springs to lower cars to skirt around the Drag/Downforce ratio.
@User-dd2xv2 жыл бұрын
That is what I was thinking why not use all the tricks of the trade
@T-o-m-s2 жыл бұрын
@@User-dd2xv Because there is a rulebook that prevent it
@ReXzz2 жыл бұрын
Banned, banned and banned. Apart from that: it’s a BoP class!
@albertwong57932 жыл бұрын
@@ReXzz Dang. BoP wouldn't matter as much, since they were all sandbagging for Le Mans in prior years anyways.
@rockzs74r2 жыл бұрын
The LMH rule is probably the most relaxed rule in motorsports currently the only problem is BoP
@ImprobableTodd2 жыл бұрын
I always learn so much when B Sport takes the time to analyze every facet of the effort. I love to see what subtle tricks emerge in aerodynamics, and it seems Ferrari has cleverly adhered to the rules in the wind tunnel but the numbers increase a bit in the corners. Can’t wait for Sebring.
@FerMart1152 жыл бұрын
This car is a work of art. Thanks for the video!
@jareknowak87122 жыл бұрын
5:40 - it also reduces inertia, and probably provides a slightly better weight balance.
@Jay-nk6dm2 жыл бұрын
This seems like a greatly detailed car. hope ferrari is more successful here than they were in f1, and im not even a ferrari fan!
@CapitanHarlockisback2 жыл бұрын
Than they are, they were super successful.
@gergelycsintalan1400 Жыл бұрын
That aged like fine wine.
@danielbender66582 жыл бұрын
Terrific video. Thanks for covering this.
@samuelmcbride1647 Жыл бұрын
This aged well! Thanks for this detailed look!
@BSport320 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! You are welcome!
@craigstricklin Жыл бұрын
"Low expectations in the first year ". Wins Le Mans 😊
@fqeagles216 ай бұрын
2 years in a row!
@frankr67022 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another informative video with the additional manufacterer competition costs insights.
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Andrew-vx2ls2 жыл бұрын
WEC has always been fascinating and from an aero point of view, sort of makes more sense than F1 for road applications (except of course that so many folks want to drive around in unaerodynamic mum trucks). @B Sport : the items that caught my eye were the carefully shaped "two front diffusers" on each side of the front wheels with one of the two aimed to direct air onto the flanks of the car. Can you explain these in more detail please (yes, to fill negative pressure areas...and...).
@cademckee72762 жыл бұрын
I believe they are doing yaw, rake and ride height sweeps for the wind tunnel tests for LMDH/LMH as that’s how the stability rules are setup. Iirc the car has to have a certain minimum downforce at a certain angle sideways at a certain speed.
@raykreiger41232 жыл бұрын
as far as Im aware Ferrari also used the sauber windtunnel for a large bulk of the development as homologation would be done there
@DhStyleZz2 жыл бұрын
probably because the F1 team & Haas already use the ferrari one
@JoshuaC9232 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, great point about the cost cap, never thought of that
@Pilsnor2 жыл бұрын
Yea, and they still use less money now than what they used to in F1, its like a two for the the price of one special kind of deal
@palmermonsen90982 жыл бұрын
A bit like what lotus did to get around the testing regulations
@ReXzz2 жыл бұрын
They made the decision to do this before F1 had introduced the budget cap and say it was not part of the consideration. However it does play a role as they now can run in both series, have a lot more publicity and still spend a lot less money than before
@marcox88102 жыл бұрын
The real trick has been how Mercedes F1 magically solved their purpoising problem by forcing FIA to change the rules this year ...😉
@ananayjoshi2 жыл бұрын
12:14 The cutouts in the ednplates are used to reduce form drag rather than increase expansion because expansion causes drag which is why they prefer for any expansion to happen behind the car rather than on the car
@jimmybags14942 жыл бұрын
Ferrari going with a 120 degree V and flipping the heads is a genius move. Probably makes it easier to collect air for the intakes as well, at least in my mind that just makes sense, brilliant!
@borisyurinov48222 жыл бұрын
Just pray they figure out the strategy
@omettoleo2 жыл бұрын
@@borisyurinov4822 Ferrari in WEC is ran by AF Corse, not by Ferrari itself, this year they also won a constructor championship
@borisyurinov48222 жыл бұрын
@@omettoleo nice. Hope leclerc wins this year. Max is annoying
@sympathiser_of_Germans_in_40s Жыл бұрын
@@borisyurinov4822 yeahh that ain't happening
@borisyurinov4822 Жыл бұрын
@@sympathiser_of_Germans_in_40s sad , but true. Ferrari last WC 2007... Top 3 I guess ain't that bad.
@dmaessen Жыл бұрын
Great story, worth telling it and well told, especially in the light of Ferrari‘s triumph in Le Mans. Congratulations for predicting, amazing!
@ronniet9062 жыл бұрын
Fantastic jam-packed LMH analysis in 13 min...May I say, Credit to you for pushing out such good motorsport content so frequently. When do you rest? 😉 Always liked consulting in Germany and Holland, straight to the point, no small talk...until evening time over beer👍 Erfolg und viel Glück im Jahr 2023
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@hoxfrey90932 жыл бұрын
probably my most awaited video from you! thanks so much for the insightful analysis
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@Enra0002 жыл бұрын
truly an exciting time for endurance racing, way more manufacturers, no toxic football fans wannabe, no street circuits, truly a racing series in its pure form. BuT Le MaNs iS oN a PuBLiC RoAD well yeah should i call nordschleife a fucking street circuit as well? because last time i checked, it is also a public road, a one-way public road that is. it's obvious what i mean is those half-assed claustrophobic street circuits with no soul like jeddah, miami, baku and soon vegas where they only put concrete walls on either side and call it a day.
@adriWRC_2 жыл бұрын
Well, IMSA has some street circuits, but not like FE or F1, but true old american street circuit style
@LG-ct8tw2 жыл бұрын
The biggest one is a street circuit: Le Mans😉
@gavcom40602 жыл бұрын
Le Mans is literally a public roadway ….
@Enra0002 жыл бұрын
@@gavcom4060 i'm talking about street circuits like jeddah or miami dumbass.
@mtekleel2 жыл бұрын
@@gavcom4060 I guess he's talking about hastily built recent street circuits with only F1 in mind.
@criticaldutton2 жыл бұрын
They don't just spend $145m in F1. There are costs associated with F1 that are not included in the budget cap. But you are right that costs have gone down significantly.
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
Correct, but it would be a separate video only to explain the whole F1 cost structure, so I simplified this here, so viewers get the general idea.
@criticaldutton2 жыл бұрын
@@BSport320 Anyway, great content! Thanks man.
@boostav2 жыл бұрын
@@BSport320 Would be an interesting video
@gtone3392 жыл бұрын
logistics side
@marcox88102 жыл бұрын
The real trick has been how Mercedes F1 magically solved their purpoising problem by forcing FIA to change the rules this year ...😉
@Whiti_G2 жыл бұрын
They haven't won a le mans since 1965, It will be an incredible achievement if they can come back an win it again with the 499P
@BeyondtheTherapyDoor2 жыл бұрын
They won many Le Mans in GT class but not the overall since 1965
@sympathiser_of_Germans_in_40s Жыл бұрын
😁hello from june 11
@jamesrobert4106 Жыл бұрын
And so they have. An exceptional 100th anniversary LeMans.
@lovelehstuff6 ай бұрын
And again 💀
@rickkiewiet13212 жыл бұрын
This car is so beautiful, it almost makes me cry. After watching I now know it's design is also very smart!
@kralg Жыл бұрын
I am not a blind Ferrari fan and I am not sure if this car will be fast on track, but somehow they always end up with something so beautiful to the eye...
@RB26N2 жыл бұрын
YAS ! was waiting for this. Thank you !
@deemow26342 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant, succinct analysis of aerodynamics and layout of a race car coupled with an excellent economic impact analysis of the motorsport industry. Learning so much about aerodynamics from these observations. The observation regarding gurney fins really made me think about the ability to corner at high speeds and the importance to reattach air flow. Also engine insights on angle and structural considerations excellent. Interesting that Ferrari have been conservative strategically in engine development, i.e. using existing 296. Maybe a sign of electrification being the future. Cooling for the hybrid system would be an interesting future insight. Really need to get onto one of your courses. Missed the last deal on F1 aerodynamics. Again, excellent succinct insight. Please keep it coming...
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@dnuno756 ай бұрын
Wonderful video! I came here after watching your summary of 2024 LM 24h. This really shows how thouroughly and cleverly thought-out the 499P is, with Ferrari making full use of their expertise and the greater freedom of LMH design vs LMdH.
@TRiToX912 жыл бұрын
The future of IMSA and the WEC looks really bright
@misterdog72 жыл бұрын
Excellent work again!
@craigrockwell1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. Very clear and concise!
@StelaPop Жыл бұрын
Brilliant insights and review for this new car. They posted the top time in Qualifying with a brand new car and the least amount of testing for this class. The race has happened today but I didn't get to watch it yet. Thank you for the video sharing your insights to the aero design and divetrain components.
@MOColumbia Жыл бұрын
So glad they are back at Le Mans as well as others, but long time Ferrari Fan, this is a sexy beast.
@v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31 Жыл бұрын
Exciting new racing to look forward to,,,our Italian friends are cheering.
@gregorykeppel5032 Жыл бұрын
Wow..... technology overload! I'll be heading to Sebring to check out this car and the Peugeot
@stevenikitas81702 жыл бұрын
Since all spending on racing is essentially advertising and public relations, Ferrari now will be able to reach tens of millions of new potential customers/admirers in the WEC.
@vrj02 жыл бұрын
AMAZING INSIGHT!
@JkTheMixer2 жыл бұрын
This video makes the 499P look dominant. Nice to see though that even with money you can't only spend to win, you need world-class engineers. Let's hope the competitors (Peugeot!) can keep up with it
@mikepod6372 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. As a business minded incisional, Engineering is so hard for to grasp(especially engines).
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
Great, welcome!
@mikejohnson5900 Жыл бұрын
So much detail and very well explained! Thank you.
@soraaoixxthebluesky2 жыл бұрын
I’m not surprise if Ferrari won in this category on both aero and engine department. But I still think that reliability will be their main issue as simulating a 24Hrs race is not an easy feat. Data from their GTE class might be a help. (Edit) I can't believe that they won LeMans on first try after like 50-years of hiatus.
@gafrers2 жыл бұрын
Quality analysis as always
@raykreiger41232 жыл бұрын
Beautiful sports prototype
@sympathiser_of_Germans_in_40s Жыл бұрын
Well so much for "Low Expectation"
@martinfreund67372 жыл бұрын
Impressive car, impressive video
@bits26462 жыл бұрын
Love the tech analisys and details explained in your videos, great content !!
@budthecyborg45752 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see the Doug Score on this one.
@km68322 жыл бұрын
I believe the strakes are for stability, and they gonna make thw downforce using ground effect. They also gonna use air to air for efficiency. Air to water is additional weight and an extra fail point. Also its crazy that enzo once said " aerodynamic are for people who cant build engines" yet ferrari lead aerodynamics on modern cars nowadays
@byanymeansnecessary93292 жыл бұрын
They and all the F1 manufacturers use both air to air and air to water for compound cooling of the air charge, this guy doesn't know what he is talking about.
@km68322 жыл бұрын
@@byanymeansnecessary9329 why would you need compound cooling if one system is more efficient than the other? Endurance cars use air to air because unlike f1 the racea arent 2 hours long. Endurance races are 6+.
@byanymeansnecessary93292 жыл бұрын
@@km6832 you claim air to air is more efficient yet all the f1 manufacturers use air to water as well. Because you are so much smarter than them. Do you have any understanding of highly turbocharged engines? I don't think so.
@km68322 жыл бұрын
@@byanymeansnecessary9329 you responding just because you can. Look in the engine bay of any endurance race car and tell me if you air to water intercoolers. Maybe 2 percent if any at all. Im not longer speaking bout f1 the whole world knows f1 uses air to water. Because their races are significantly shorter than endurance races in the wec. Which is why every wec car uses air to air. Because the efficiency gains with air to water arent worth the power trade off with bop and added weight..please learn to read and comprehend
@km68322 жыл бұрын
@@byanymeansnecessary9329 additionally. There is a reason all drag cars use air to water. Guess why, they need to be efficient for 10 seconds or less. Not 10 hours
@cg02062 жыл бұрын
The new LMH season would be interesting
@ReXzz2 жыл бұрын
Would be, if?😂 Also it’s WEC, not just LMH
@namiboosterhuizen66102 жыл бұрын
If it goes as fast as it looks, wowwwww
@gerogyzurkov22592 жыл бұрын
The current 2022 Ferrari F1 vibes. Too bad chews the tires.
@Thedutchman122 жыл бұрын
@@gerogyzurkov2259 tbf the car was really good before the TD was introduced
@XLTBlarg2 жыл бұрын
Not as fast as F1 but WEC and IMSA are trying to be more affordable to attract manufacturers. That and unlike F1 they cant just be quick for 1 hour, they have to be quick for 4 to 24 hours depending on the race, so race pace is sacrificed for endurance.
@gerogyzurkov22592 жыл бұрын
@@Thedutchman12 What is TD?
@sharl_leg2 жыл бұрын
@@gerogyzurkov2259 technical directive
@imfrcd Жыл бұрын
The car was beautiful at Sebring. Fast, also.....
@ilmelangolo Жыл бұрын
also in Le Mans! 😁
@chrisflyvr2 жыл бұрын
great work and video. THX
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@rockzs74r2 жыл бұрын
What I am really afraid is considering how much creative freedom the LMH car have compared to LMDh the performance difference will be great as well it its raw format. and usually BoP favour the slower car which mean the LMDh.
@oxey_2 жыл бұрын
the performance restrictions are still the same i understand it. the reason why peugeot could build the car they did for example is because the amount of total downforce these cars are allowed to generate is quite low, so while there's a lot of freedom this doesn't really increase the speed in any meaningful way
@adamcassimjee5322 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I've never watched WEC but the new rules have got me interested. Can't wait to see such a diverse field of aesthetically pleasing cars racing each other.
@jeps13322 жыл бұрын
Ferdinando Cannizzo, head of design and development at Ferrari's Attivita Sportive GT sportscar racing department said that the LMH and GT3 engine aren't the same. It's a different engine but both of them are 120° V6
@288gto72 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure he said they are different because this one also acts as a stressed member of the frame. Other than that i dont think they are completely different engines. It makes no sense to make a completely different v6 from the ground up when you already have one
@gaspard__frl Жыл бұрын
And today Ferrari won 🏆
@robertoautore9252 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful automobile, a masterpiece, Scuderia Ferrari. 👍❤️🏁🇮🇹
@opmike3432 жыл бұрын
I had no idea LMP1 was that expensive. Honestly, I don't understand the point in pouring so much money in prototypes. I'd be happy to see a return of something like the GT1 class of cars. They just need to be noticeably quicker than GT3, not trying to knock on F1 lap times.
@tinlapyuen3734 Жыл бұрын
So Ferrari is putting f1 technology into other type racing. And getting great advantage
@fqeagles216 ай бұрын
why not, it's not against the rules
@pppphillip2 жыл бұрын
Le Mans 2023 will be a great one with two of these cars
@NAmania Жыл бұрын
12:44 Well they took pole at Sebring!!
@_hanz732 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation!!
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@changen41252 жыл бұрын
ayyyy, blown diffusers in lmh. These are all classic f1 tricks.
@jspoons66192 жыл бұрын
I am glad Ferrari are being realistic in what they expect 2023 to bring in their first year as an Factory Team returning to the WSC after 50 years away from the top flight and challenging the like of Porsche and other teams with much more experience in this type of racing. It is not just about the car that looks like a very good car from Ferrari but endurance racing can be a cruel format no one forgets Toyota's tragic lost at Le Mans on the last laps after 24hrs , so much more can go wrong in these long races . yes they have put the cars in the hands of a very good team but now at a much higher level than before. I would imagine there will be some rivals challenges to some of those Aero parts on the Ferrari or maybe by both Governing bodies in their respective Countries . of course they are only showing us a car with what they want us to see no team wants to give their revels to many of their secrets away. But it is looking like Hyper cars and endurance could be the sport to watch next year over F1 hopefully a new golden age of Endurance racing is here .
@svtinker2 жыл бұрын
Anticipation is making wait.
@Aotearoa_Kiwi2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video ... thanks! 👍
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@parallax_review2 жыл бұрын
I'm really excited about the paradigm shift from legality boxes to actually measure the aerodynamic performance. But I guess this is not possible in F1, as teams tend to bring a lot of updates and sometimes even run different parts on their two cars in the race, so you'd have to measure/homologate every combination of parts, which is impossible - unless they limit bringing new parts to three or so times per season.
@chrisd67362 жыл бұрын
Build a mobile wind tunnel. Problem solved!
@lucabe3273 Жыл бұрын
F1 should never incorporate a BoP. It‘s a constructors series and the pinnacle of motorsport hence the best manufacturer wins.
@chrisd6736 Жыл бұрын
@@lucabe3273- ya the problem is when the costs get so high you only have one or two competitive teams, it’s not going to be as fun to watch. BOP can help to even the playing field. It’s either that or all the strict cost caps and wind tunnel caps etc that they are doing now. Otherwise it’s just going to be pay to win (not interesting when you know the winner of every race ahead of time).
@Little_Alesi2 жыл бұрын
extremely factual report, great
@sebulbathx2 жыл бұрын
This could be seen as a loophole or grey zone but it's very smart in doing this. Creating a new team in a different series but still spending less or equal amount of money as they would do if the cost cap didn't existed.
@Sillymarin Жыл бұрын
This video aged well
@davidemaniscalco26032 жыл бұрын
Looking fantastica!
@1BCamden Жыл бұрын
Great insight, thanks, first two rounds went okay, Spa, and LeMans will be the test
@olivialambert41242 жыл бұрын
When I look at the vertical winglets I don't see vortex generators. I mean sure secondarily and a couple of them certainly might primarily be vortex generators too, but that isn't the primary purpose for the vast majority of them. They're like a shark fin. The rules dictate what you can have regarding drag, what you can have regarding downforce. They don't consider teams creating lateral forces via vertical wings similar to how a shark fin would work. Ie free performance. I say this because most of them (not all) are placed in areas a vortex would be useless. The rear wing being the perfect example but a great many places. But also because the size of them is so different to the boundary layer at that area (the size of a normal vortex generator). We can see that, for example, at the roof where the winglet goes far higher than the lower lip of the air intake - the latter being raised solely to avoid the boundary layer along the roof.
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
Apart from the one on the roof scoop, I think their main purpose is to act like a Gurney under yaw, like I explained in the video. As you rightly say, they don't make too much sense as vortex generators in these areas but also you cannot avoid vortices from them under yaw.
@ReXzz2 жыл бұрын
@@BSport320 their purpose is to provide stability so the car doesn’t flip in case it gets sideways. They are very strict on that and the numbers they need to get to are quite demanding. I am 99% sure this isn’t about creating vortexes at all, but solely about reaching said desired values. If you take another look at the Peugeot: it may not have a rear wing, but it has massive fins to cover as much surface area as possible when looking at it from the side! Also you mentioned the exhaust system possibly having an influence on the cars aerodynamics at the rear, but it’s quite simple: the regulations simply do not permit exhaust systems that have an influence on aerodynamics!
@olivialambert41242 жыл бұрын
@@BSport320 I think there might be a miscommunication somewhere. My understanding of a Gurney flap is a small protrusion at the kutta condition of an airfoil at the high pressure side intending to create a sharper exit angle for the airflow. What I'm seeing here is a number of protrusions nowhere near the kutta condition, generally where you don't want air to depart, and often on the high side. I'd also expect a Gurney flap to be very tiny wheres these aren't, often a foot tall. Assuming you meant vortex generators as the video suggests, I'd mentioned why that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The locations are usually where you don't want vortexes - the rear wing high pressure region will have zero effect as the airflow is gone before it helps you whilst around the intake would provide turbulent air to the engine intake. The size is incredibly unusual, typically wanting to be a similar height to the boundary layer whilst most of these are giant in comparison. And the ones at the front whilst being in a reasonable location and almost good height are far too long - having multiple shorter vortex generators would produce a far stronger (and more controllable) vortex than we see here. To me it really looks like the vortexes are undesirable by the way its implemented.
@olivialambert41242 жыл бұрын
@@ReXzz The argument of stability to prevent flipping (or spinning) doesn't make a ton of sense to me either. Granted thats a more viable idea, and the Peugeot demonstrates exactly what I'd suspect from such an intention, but the Ferrari is different. Having the fins at the rear creates stability just like an arrow. But having them forward of the center of gravity does the opposite - it produces instability and helps the car to spin. By placing multiple smaller fins at the very front along with giant fins around the center of gravity (which produce no stability or instability) it really suggests that they aren't focusing on the stability and are looking to maximise the fin area whilst balancing the center of pressure so it doesn't create understeer. As for lateral flow, you'd need far less than Ferrari are using to detach the flow. Again, they're doing something more than simply preventing the car flipping. I think the Peugeot is a great example here. Its got an incredibly traditional shark fin style design. The shark fin is all about doing exactly what I suggested - creating a lateral force as the car yaws through a corner to increase cornering forces. Having three large shark fins is obviously trying to maximise that effect, it just seems like Ferrari have taken the same concept a few steps beyond the established design, rather than Peugeot just adding front downforce to compensate for the rear vertical fins. As for the exhaust, I really just think there's a difference between the intent of the rules and what teams are going to do. F1 being a great example, multiple years manipulating the exhaust flow was banned. Multiple years they found a way until the exhaust rules became as ridiculous as they are today (and still the monkey seat found a way!). The rules being strict on exhaust flow explains why it isn't maximised in this situation, but the positioning and aero around the exhaust shows there absolutely is an intent and some effect here. Exactly like the Aston Martin Valkyrie from the man who took exhaust downforce the furthest yet. Indeed I don't think the rules intended a race for maximum sideslip aero either but that was obviously going to happen with downforce and drag limits. Teams will always just find a way to increase performance around the set rules.
@marcox88102 жыл бұрын
The real trick has been how Mercedes F1 magically solved their purpoising problem by forcing FIA to change the rules this year ...😉
@ImInLoveWithBulla Жыл бұрын
I just really wish they didn’t have such tight power limits. It would have been nice to see Ferrari put a V12 into this.
@NLBassist6 ай бұрын
The three vents in the rear wing are also a nod to the 250 and 288 GTO
@RB-8 Жыл бұрын
Someone knows what he's talking about! Thanks man! Great job! Racing Grüsse
@ATEC1012 жыл бұрын
50 years ago, try the mid 90's. Ferrari 333 SP raced at Le Mans, it just sucked. Great sound though. Ooh, little fins, like on the McLaren Can-Am or BMW CSL's from actual 50+ years ago. Yeah, those F1 guys are really cutting edge. Lastly, Gurney flaps, named after Dan Gurney from the late 60's.
@tenkamenincrowder34862 жыл бұрын
Ferrari as a factory never raced the 333sp
@samghost132 жыл бұрын
wird sicher geil die neue saison also ich freue mich sehr! danke für deine analyse
@aslatabistaalphonso42502 жыл бұрын
Its interesting to see who gets thr permanent driver for its WEC challenge. I reckon Fisichella...Giovinazzi to name a few.
@Maenfy2 жыл бұрын
Fisichella hasn't done races in Pro classes for quite some while, I doubt he will be part of a Hypercar project then.
@lucadimuccio96682 жыл бұрын
2 minutes in and I know this is gonna be a great video
@bohba132 жыл бұрын
holy fuck. Farrari can have teams in F1, LMH, and LMDh, and save money verses pre 2021 F1 or LMP1 alone.
@thethirdman2252 жыл бұрын
7:35 Just to clear something up; vortex generators are not a high-tech solution to any particular problem. The fact that they appear on F1 cars doesn't make them more "tech" than if they appear anywhere else. The fact is that anyone who has studied aerodynamics, even from a pilot point of view as I did, knows that wing fence or vortex generator is a sign that the engineer _hasn't got the airflow under control._
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
That is true in aviation because you want clean flow but it's a bit different in F1 aerodynamics.
@thethirdman2252 жыл бұрын
@@BSport320 How? Clean flow = less drag. Less drag means either higher top speed or lower fuel consumption or the ability to add extra downforce.
@street-level Жыл бұрын
For a 6 cylinder engine, any multiple of 60 degrees will result in an even firing interval. The Vee angle chosen will simply affect the throw angle between big ends on the crankshaft. A straight 6 has a zero Vee angle and 120 degrees between crank throws. Porsche uses a 180 degree Vee angle (flat six), many road car engines use 60 degrees. It depends on engine bay packaging considerations. Eight cylinder engines use multiples of 90 degrees for good balance.
@aquenture Жыл бұрын
Great video
@BSport320 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@StarFox852 жыл бұрын
i hope they can win some sympathy back with that program video 5 0f 5 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@dennish4112 жыл бұрын
Very informative ty
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@kindestlyholddatl38652 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we get this car in Gran Turismo 7 lmao
@5ch4cht3l72 жыл бұрын
About the costs: There are several big-ticket things that aren’t covered by the cost cap, including: Driver salaries The wages of the three highest-paid staff members Travel costs Marketing spend Property and legal costs Entry and licence fees Any non-F1 or road car activities Parental and sick leave payments Employee bonuses and staff medical benefits Engines - which are more complex because some teams make their own while others buy them - are covered by their own set of cost regulations. So putting the F1 costs at 145 Mio. $ is definitely too low. Your point about the leftover budget still stands.
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
Yes, like I said: The cost structure would be enough for a separate video. I just explained the general idea here.
@pabloMK2 жыл бұрын
We going to lose, but with style!! The 499p in the "old" livery is fantastic, I love her.
@nyftn2 жыл бұрын
pretty excited to see it race
@grandicellichannel2 жыл бұрын
0:19 Goodbye Ing. Forghieri. May the 499P be your legacy and win at Le Mans in your name, Mauro.
@alexs.90012 жыл бұрын
Regarding down force and drag numbers, are they a unit of measurement (ie. kN) at a certain speed or is it the drag coefficient? Regarding these measurements, do they use static wind tunnel speeds such as 200kmh, or do they use a range of wind speeds?
@BSport3202 жыл бұрын
To simplify things usually you set the frontal area at 1m2 and then look at the result. The result is then cd*A. Advantage is that you don't have to work out the frontal area of each car you are testing. Teams usually test cars at different speeds that make sense in their experience, but they also don't want to have too many wind tunnel runs to save time and money. For the FIA I expect them to assess the cars at a range of different speeds.