Ferrari F80 - BEST or WORST Ferrari ever? - CLOSER LOOK

[@FurinaPininfarina]

Ferrari 288 GTO: Curvy Ferrari F40: Boxy Ferrari F50: Curvy Ferrari Enzo: Boxy Ferrari LaFerrari: Curvy Ferrari F80: Boxy

[@phumezosinovuyosoka4602]

Ferrari F90 - Curvy🤟🏿

[@Akshat_sharma111]

Makes sense 😂

[@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire]

@@FurinaPininfarina The 288 isn't really curvy

[@rolandotillit2867]

It's a hell of a machine. A time machine for the people that buy it, it'll accelerate so fast through the corners that their skin will tighten up, temporarily giving them youthful looks. Driving it on track will develop neck muscles.

[@williamsebastian88]

Sounds like you’ve driven the car. Which track you drove it on?

[@Skibidigokyllyourself]

is this genuine or sstire?​@@williamsebastian88

[@rolandotillit2867]

@@williamsebastian88 I have not, but I've driven cars with similar downforce and about 300hp less, and that was a hell of a ride. This is a few steps above that. I'd say this car with slicks can lap as fast as a GT3 car, sub 2 minute laps in Sebring.

[@ykmechanic]

That's quite descriptive and detailed information 😅 Did you help with the handling of the car when they were testing it?!

[@rolandotillit2867]

@@ykmechanic I'm not even allowed to smell the exhaust. Legally binding.

[@budthecyborg4575]

0:23 Ferrari 458 was designed by "Donato Coco at Ferrari Styling Centre[1] in collaboration with Pininfarina[2][3]" Every classic Ferrari was designed in collaboration with Pininfarina up to and including the F12 but everything after that is a different pedigree.

[@ravishkasilva2851]

F12 was the last beautiful Ferrari Feel like they are lost.

[@budthecyborg4575]

@@ravishkasilva2851 Personally I love both the SP1 and SP3. The fact that these cars are made to appease the V12 crowd should mean Ferrari is fully aware that their new mainstream cars are NOT attractive to old Ferrari fans. At that point it's just willful ignorance pricing a V6 at four million dollars.

[@metalpiston1212]

Laferrari was their first in-house design but still continues the 458 design cues from Pininfarina. 488 onwards, Pininfarina's design influence no longer exists.

[@CyanRooper]

​@@ravishkasilva2851 the Pista was arguably the last good looking Ferrari. After that is when the cars started to look ugly. The SF90's looks have grown on me but I would still pick a 458 over it.

[@Xayuap]

I can see F40 square design heritage.

[@RobFalfa]

When I heard they mentioned it would have an active camber system I was curious if it would have something similar to what VAG group has patented to change camber and toe. It seems it is using the Multimatic active dampers so I guess what they referred to is control of body motions. Beautiful 3d printed upper wishbones.

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

@@RobFalfa Ferrari had it first then Porsche

[@horsepower523]

It looks like a futuristic Group C race car from the 80's. I love the design. It may not look as elegant and curvaceous as some other Ferraris but it's not supposed to, because the F80 is all about ultimate performance, downforce and showcasing the F80's direct link with motorsport. It's a striking looking road legal race car with some design elements as a tribute to the previous Ferrari halo cars and the 499P. As for using the V6 engine, it's a well known fact that the V6 is much better for overall performance and it's also a two time Le Mans 24h winning engine. So there's absolutely nothing wrong with Ferrari putting that racetrack proven engine into its newest halo car. People can say whatever they want but everything Ferrari has done with creating the F80 actually makes perfect sense when you do some research and think rationally.

[@Stingraeee]

ithink more like GT1+ hybrid era car

[@RCmaniac667]

Design very much reminds me of Honda NSX, which is cool but not quite Ferrari for me

[@fifteen8850]

@@RCmaniac667it looks nothing like an nsx and more like an F40

[@k.r.99]

It sure needs to be straight piped. The gentle V6 scream is unbearable.

[@danieldickerson4838]

Agreed on all fronts. “Race-bred brutalism” is how Jack Rix described the F80, and I absolutely agree with that descriptor. Ferrari were after each and every nanosecond of performance with the car, and its design shows that mindset and goal quite clearly. It’s meant to absolutely bully the air around it while flattening whatever race track it finds itself on. The enormous rooster tail that was produced when the F80 was driven in anger on the wet track says enough: this is a vehicle that cares only about performance, numbers, downforce, and tech to make it go faster. This is Ferrari’s take on the McLaren Senna, but with about 5 pounds of steroids added to it. It’s not pretty (even though I quite like the design), but it is incredibly striking and looks great out and about, and especially on the move. And, it’s not really supposed to be traditionalist pretty, not when it puts down the amount of performance and downforce that it does. 2,316lbs of downforce is what this thing produces. The Jesko Attack produces 1,764lbs of downforce, just to put things into perspective. The F80 is Ferrari’s attack dog, its weapon of mass road course destruction in road legal form. Again, this is their Senna moment, but with significantly more tech, power, downforce, and aero at play.

[@ambergris5705]

On the design: people complained about the Daytona when it came out, of the Testarossa, of the 360 Modena, of the Enzo, of the 458 Italia... There's never been a flagship Ferrari without a little bit of drama. In 20 years it will be celebrated as groundbreaking, potentially as underrated, but it will be an icon for a long time. All Ferrari are.

[@Vibe_Raider]

Nobody complained about the enzo or the 458. This is a downright, borderline objectively, ugly car.

[@zakelwe]

People complained about the F50 after the F40 as looked blobby. But apparently a better drive....

[@gobgobcachoo]

​@@Vibe_Raider no, I remember distinctly that the press was divided on the Enzo's looks. Just look back yourself.

[@budthecyborg4575]

SF90 is selling for half its purchase price. At the same time everyone loves the SP3 Daytona, that car will not lose money.

[@theSafetyCar]

@Vibe_Raider I quite like it. It's a retro modern design that does something we haven't really seen before. It's a mashup of modern and late 80s design. It feels like an F40 if it was designed in the 2020s instead of the 80s, and it has some subtle similarities with the 499p as a reminder of Ferrari's racing heritage. I think it's a bold and innovative design. I can get why people dislike it, but I think it's stunning. A truly enigmatic car.

[@pab3783]

My fascination with supercars has dissipated with modern performance car speeds. Their otherworldly price is another factor. I don't identify with them. I'm interested in sports cars nowadays. F80 is sophisticated but nothing more for me.

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

The design doesn’t have the sexy curves of the F50 or LaFerrari, or the pure drama of the Enzo, but I do like it, and I’m sure it’ll grow on me more and more. Reminds me a lot of the F40. I think it would look better without the black bar in front tho.

[@theSafetyCar]

I think it would look better with the diagonal line from the F40. I'm also not a big fan of the F50, the front end just looks odd to me. I think the F80 is a much nicer looking car, but not quite as good as the F40.

[@Spinelli__]

I don't consider the F80 a true Ferrari design. It doesn't have the gorgeous, feminine, dramatic, voluptuous, clean, highly exotic look of Ferraris. It just looks like any other random, cool, hypercar.

[@radicaIized]

pdf?

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

@@theSafetyCar the F50 isn’t necessarily beautiful, but it is dramatic.

[@kenrickohlson1989]

Personally I think the MGU-H is a brilliant invention and device for a car. Yes is takes a lot of money to do R&D but once perfected the car can have a mode where they keep 2 or 1 of the combustion chambers on to keep the turbos turbine spinning and recharging the bat3's when the cars in Full electrical mode so that it saves petrol and doesn't apply lots of strain or increasing the engine wear by having the whole engine running just to charge the bat3's. on performance cars yes its used to reduce turbo lag but in normal street cars just for recharging the bat3's. It would be fine on like a turbo charged 4 cylinder hybrid

[@Dakkyun]

I will skip the engine and go straight to a gas turbine at that point. Just need the anti-lag throttle and you're good to go.

[@kidpagronprimsank05]

Good luck with hot exhaust melting your car and paid for gas prices (at least it burns anything).

[@zlm001]

The thing the F80 that irritates me the most is the overuse of straight parallel lines, especially around the wheels and the side panels along the door and waist. With just a few tweaks it could turn into a truly jaw dropping design. I guess I’m saying that there’s the bones and muscle of a truly legendary car in the F80, but its skin and clothes need much better lines and shapes. They’re already giving up aero for looks and the stance and figure underneath are great, so to me it feels like they actually had to work super hard to screw the design as much as they did. It should have been an easy, tap-in, open net goal to make the bones and innards of the F80 look stunning, but they specifically ruined it to make it seem “futuristic” and “sci-fi”. I’d argue that it doesn’t look sci-fi or futuristic at all, unless they meant minimalist retro futuristic. If that’s the case, the carried it out poorly and it sucks. I don’t want my Ferarri to look like a spaceship. I want my Ferarri to BE a spaceship that Ferrari designed. How would Ferrari design a spaceship? That’s what I want to feel like if they want to be futuristic. The F80 is just a mishmash of pieces of a different designs that doesn’t go together at all.

[@kcspeed9980]

Can’t agree more! The purpose built lemans car is a more “beautiful” car, where design definitely takes a back seat to performance. I am curious how it looks in less traditional Ferrari colors, white in particular or silver. I’ve noticed the “edgy” cars that seem popular now don’t show well in red for whatever reason (to me).

[@cardude1992]

The silhouette and roofline is amazing. A bit sleeker than its predecessors. Needs a V12.

[@GF-mf7ml]

Bugatti can fit a V16 why can't Ferrari do that? Bugatti also have bigger battery. The cooling front motor at rear and rear engine at front that's too inefficient and heavy, how much water inside the system. That's why they only give dry weight.

[@ragfw7780]

​@@GF-mf7ml they can do it, they just won't because they dont want to, Ferrari and every other car manufacturer are moving away from anything bigger than a v8, I dislike that that's the case but hybrid hyper and supercars are the future, besides they are not making the car for you or me, they are making them for their extremely rich customers who already bought all units available.

[@literallyhuman5990]

For some reason the car looks too tall and the greenhouse looks disproportionately small and wide. Probably just me. But it gave me the sense of R1250GS trying to be S1K

[@gregorygant4242]

The front looks like it's been designed by LEGO the back is nice though . " Volvo , they're boxy but they're good ! " "Now Ferrari's too ! "

[@Wu_Tang_X]

The tech is awesome but the sound and design do NOT scream”Ferrari”

[@indopleaser]

Best video about f80. Couldn’t find nearly as much info anywhere else. Hope to see something similar about the W1

[@BSport320]

Thanks, working on W1 now

[@jeffwill4923]

At the moment sites have various info listed. New video I just watched has Mclaren rep claiming downforce numbers are conservative. Peak number is 1298kg. Rep stated it's not sustained. The issue here we don't know if Ferrari is using peak numbers.

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

Interesting. I think I'd like it more visually if the accents were body color instead of glossy black. The rear end however is perfect, no notes.

[@1997jankuschef]

I agree, I’d like to see that tried out

[@1997jankuschef]

The carbon on the hood reminds me of a cheap car with a replacement hood that wasn’t painted

[@elunaselemine9781]

Thank You for such an comprehensive and informative review! It would be interesting to see Your analysys of Pagani Huayra R or Revo)

[@nathanmadox3364]

It really doesn't matter at the end of the day. Ferraris always had to be beautiful. No matter what you should look at a Ferrari and go "wow!" Not because you're seeing an expensive super car, but because its the most beautiful car you've ever seen. Even when I got into cars not that long ago, this was the case. The 430, timeless. The 485, stunning. The 599, amazing. Even the California was obviously a baby Ferrari, but it looked the part. Ever since splitting from Pininfarina they have made one good looking car, the la ferrari. Ever since then they have essentially just followed trends, and thats not what Ferrari does. They make the best looking car you can buy first, then they try to build a decent sports car underneath. Now they make world leading sports cars, but they cant make them look half decent.

[@cben86]

I'm still waiting for you to do a video on 3D printing! Starting to see more of these generative designed suspension components but interested how far motorsport is taking it. Also really interested in your thoughts on cars embracing active suspension (Multimatic's TASV dampers in the Ferrari's F80 & Purosangue and Porsche's Active Ride) which means no more anti-roll bars .

[@バナナピエ]

Just get rid that black stripe in the front and it will looks better

[@dimbose9229]

You're right that some design grow on you. It's almost 30 years since F50 released, still look bad to me. But this new car has better chances I feel.

[@fruhlingsbilder]

It looks so fucking good.

[@bushgreen260]

*You don't need to spend $3.9/€3.7/£3.1 million on the F80, when in 6 years time you can buy a series production Ferrari that will be faster then the F80. SF90 released 6 years after the Laferrari and is faster.*

[@golden5522]

A great video, but one mistake you made about the 458 was that it was designed by pinninfarina and someone else, but 488 and 488 pista was Manzoni

[@andi5943]

Who in their right mind gets this over the Bugatti??

[@Eliano55]

For me this is a spiritual successor to the CLK GTR or 911 GT1 or Mclaren F1 etc A GT1/Le Mans monster for the road. Mental and a legend.

[@thesuit4820]

Except, of course, the McLaren wasn't a race car for the road... 😊

[@GURLALS]

@@thesuit4820he probably meant the lm or gt

[@thesuit4820]

@@GURLALS true, but let's never miss an opportunity to revel in how bonkers the F1 was.

[@jeffery7281]

Exactly, the GT1 vibe just goes on hard on this car.

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

@@Eliano55 Honestly if this where renamed 499P road version or whatever name it was for a road going Le Mans racer for Ferrari then this car would of been more acceptable than pasting the F80 on it.

[@arhimede360]

Amazing video, as always! The best tech chanel on YT for me!

[@hhistertheosis]

I remember when the first rumours of the F60 came out, later called Enzo. Good times, when a new flagship Ferrari excited me. You can say what you want about other designs that were not immediately accepted, like the boxy F40, the Enzo or the LaFerrari but those cars have consistent and beautiful lines. If you think this disgrace of a car is beautiful, you don't understand that much about design. It has some beauty on it. The sides have beauty lines and the NACA intakes are interesting, and the engine cover inspired on the F50 GT, if I remember correctly, is a nice touch, even if is to fluid and tamed for such an angular car! The front is horrendous, the intakes themselves look like an afterthought. The black bar could work if they fully blacked out the lights and cleaned the front bumper with a more horizontal an simple design. The rear is not that bad but it would fit amazingly a rear stilled based on the Testarossa. Horizontal black lines covering some LEDs, with a nice light signature. It would match the front bar and blackout front lights and it would give it some retro cyberpunk vibe that the car wants to have but doesn't have enough confidence to pull it off! The rear wing is also ugly. It would be perfect with a wing like the F40 but instead of fixed, it would be retractable. And voilà, it would be the ultimate retro futuristic Ferrari.

[@judgedread-q4t]

They need Pininfarina. Track car styling doesn't always translate well for the road. F80 is an advanced-tech engineering masterpiece but no beauty which betrays its pure intention for racing.

[@The_ZeroLine]

Should be squarer (but still looks cool) and be NA. Even if they could “only” reliably get 800 HP out of an NA engine, it’d still be too fast to for the road. So, at least let us get a good sound.

[@GranDaddo]

I think the black accents on car would work better on less busy exterior. I am not fan of narrower cockpit, and aero numbers (after all these compromises) are great, but are you really amazed? For me this car contradicts itself and watching it go on track is not making me jump from looks or sound. On same side, McLaren W1 does not look much better. I am waiting on Porsche.

[@Richard_allrich]

The biggest challenge: service the car or fix it when broken 😂

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

It's cause engineers wanted single seater. The compromise came to this.

[@dhanu_4539]

not really, it's the other way around. they wanted 2 seats but found it hard to reach the expected performance numbers without compromising comfort.

[@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire]

​@@dhanu_4539Wrong.

[@The_ZeroLine]

Even for a Ferrari, this car will be a nightmare to service once it’s more than about five years old. You’ll need both a mechanic and an electronics engineer.

[@paskowitz]

W1 video next? Maybe also worth touching on what the heck is going on with Porsche's holy Trinity hypercar program.

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

@@paskowitz More for electric than hybrid F1. 911 Touring is as good as u can get. Mission X was electric.

[@Roddy_Zeh]

I like it. Sure, there are some little things I'd prefer to change... * Rear wing, I would've preferred a larger, taller one, and fixed, F50 style. But I know the one chosen has more benefits in terms of reduced drag at higher speeds. * Taillights. In the area right below the LED stripes, there's an open space there, which I think would've used to install four round taillights like the old models. * Up front, that black area between the headlights. I would've preferred to be in the body color. The engine...V6, 3.0L, okay...not a V8, nor a V12. But hey. 900 hp...300hp/liter...that's a lot. And 9200 rpm? Even better. But I surely would've loved if they decreased the stroke a bit, dropped the displacement to...2.4, 2.5L...and revving higher, to 10,000 rpm or so. It would sacrifice some torque, but they could manage to maintain the same 900 hp at those peak rpm's. But then again, I'm not an engineer, just a dreamer, hehe. 😂

[@radicaIized]

It’s awesome to me

[@peanusbenis5631]

The odd black "bonnet bra" would look better if it matched the bonnet colour, but I still love it.

[@wololo10]

The 1+ seating os cool ngl

[@jamsbong]

Technically, it is a masterpiece. The looks is also incredible. The squared looks is futureistic and it also fits the purpose of maximizing the ground effect area. But where is the sound? the engine is so quiet that the raindrops sound louder.

[@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire]

The F80 is just a contradiction personified as a car. They made a trade off in styling and sound for performance. Yet the T.50, Valkyrie and AMG One all look better, sound better and probably perform better. Well, it's a Ferrari made to chase numbers, I hear people say. Then don't make it road legal? It's compromised from the start that way. Just go the route of the RB17, Spierling or Valkyrie AMR Pro. Track only but incredible performance. This contradiction continues in the interior. 1+1 seater? Really? Either go full single seater race car or make it a regular two seater. Both would look better and more worthy of the Ferrari badge. Or go the F1, Speedtail and T.50 direction and have a 1+2 layout. Then the engine, well it's a good V6 and weight and performance and stuff. The GMA T.50 is much lighter and has an amazing V12, so does the Valkyrie, the RB17 has a V10 if I recall correctly, so does the Solus GT. The only other car in Ferraris line up with a V6 is the cheapest, least desirable, entry level 296 GTB. Every other model has a more exciting engine. And that's what Ferrari is all about, beauty, excitement, lifestyle and emotions. Not numbers. I know a fine gentleman who has a Portofino M, for that money he could have bought faster and more technically impressive cars. But he bought it because it's a stylish, emotional, V8 convertible from Maranello. It's that simple.

[@GF-mf7ml]

The main problem is there's no rules for road car but Ferrari keep following the stupid race rules. They should have freedom to go crazy but they use entry level V6 engine.

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

@@GF-mf7ml Safety, government, and EPA.

[@Dakkyun]

They're a racing company... Lifestyle kind of be damned, if they were lifestyle focused they would not have sued the customers. Just look at lambo. And this engine really isn't entry level. The same as the 296 and 499P. And *you don't get to choose the identity of Ferrari*

[@fifteen8850]

Ferrari’s always about pushing the limits of what a road car can do. It started with the 288 gto and will continue with the F80.

[@danieldickerson4838]

Because Ferrari have always been about pushing the boundaries of performance for road cars? For taking the performance from their race cars, and putting it into their street cars?

[@F14foreverF14]

Love it...but if smh I was to choose between this and ///AMG-1 I'd go for AMG...curious to see F80's Nordschleife laptime.

[@fifteen8850]

Idk man the amg looks to be slower and imo it’s definitely not as good looking

[@docmccoy9813]

Too much produced. Too expensive. Too heavy. Too boxy compared to the ultimate road performance that should be the 499. Not enough sound.

[@julienboucaron9780]

IMHO the interior feels very cheap, it does not feel special, there is very little emotion there when you compare with a Pagani or something else. Even if I do not like the exterior design, it is interesting technically.

[@fifteen8850]

I like it because it’s a no-nonsense interior purely focused on the driver

[@MetoFulcurm]

Take away some from the gearbox and add V12 turbo to it. At least 1800 HP with the hybrid drivetrain. Well it's an expensive car and a status symbol. Still looks better than it's competitors.

[@martinfisker7438]

I normally prefer simple cars that are made to be fun rather than fast per se - but I have to admit this is damn cool

[@galvanic1352]

It seems that Ferrari accidentally made the FXX first, I'm not sure how much better looking it would look without the focus on downforce.

[@Andrew-vx2ls]

Thank you for this authoritative review. As mentioned by @Mqtisse below, a far better idea is to buy the 499P. For this budget, it almost possible to buy the rest of the range and fuel for a few years as well... This will end badly and Ferrari will be lucky to shift 80...

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

@@Andrew-vx2ls You can't own the 499P Mod and u can only use that car at exclusive Ferrari club members only allowed events. You only paying to access the program and car. This is basically Ferrari giving the owners chance to buy and actually own road going version of the Lemans 499P and Mod. You buy this car and it's yours to keep forever. Rather than having Ferrari still own the car and maintenence it for these XX cars which the 499P Mod falls under too.

[@DevKumar-bi2ld]

At 10:14 i think there is typing error, mclaren w1 also produces 1000kg of downforce like the f80, its the mclaren senna that produces 800kg of downforce

[@hisyamd]

The W1 will produce 1000kg (2205lbs) of downforce at 280 Kph (174 Mph) not at 250 Kph (156 Mph).

[@DevKumar-bi2ld]

@@hisyamd source?

[@deeovanmowatt8855]

@@hisyamdhe needs to fix for the AMG one. There is no way that car only produces 360kg at 250

[@Dasycottus]

It looks significantly better outside of a showrooom... Glad to see that.

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

“Hurr durr the v6 is better for weight and packaging” they can’t say that when the T50 weighs over 1,000 pounds less. In a world where an electric sedan can run 9 seconds in the quarter mile, pure performance isn’t everything. A Ferrari deserves the theatrics of a V12. Why not make both? The hypercar luxurious one and the flyweight purebred?

[@jeffwill4923]

T50 has a 4L V12. Packaging should not be an issue. Designer is using a fan unlike here. When I saw the early mules could easily guess no V12 because of rear design. No matter the engine regs were going to make it muted. All can say is get comfortable and let's hope next model has a real engine.

[@fifteen8850]

@@jeffwill4923this *is* a real engine, and a proven one at that

[@cameron_white4]

Kids these days will never know the joy of a V12... I would know, I'm one of them 😔

[@palm92]

I love the design as it looks like a car from Ridge Racer Type 4. One of the Stage 3 or Stage 4 machines.

[@gentnextdoor]

I think time will be kind to this car, it is far more dvance than the W1, the suspension is borderline witchcraft and to get 900hp from 6 cylinders with no weight penalty is mighty too. Awesome car, haters can cry.

[@kalui96]

I think the answer to the question posed at the end is Yes. Hopefully

[@il-ma.le.]

I do prefer this Ferrari over the W1, I do like how it re-interprets the F40, but can't help but think about the very old XJ220, and the fact that it was refused because it did not have a v12. Point is that the Jag will be garbage while this will be a cult object because only one of them is a Ferrari.

[@craig3916]

all these modern super/hypo cars are just weird. no longer beautiful or svelte n pleasant to look at. just over trimmed pancakes. and all the modern powerplants are just add this bit, add another bit, fiddle n add complexity, nothing really improving just different n bamboozling. you are aware that for all the el3ctric motors n turbo boost increases, that engine efficiency hasn't increased at all for decades. any reasonably modern motor from any car thru to this new Ferrari motor can generate the same amount of useful power from a given amount of fuel. if u have a motor can make 100hp n say that ferari motor makes 1000hp. give each motor 1 litre fuel, run them at Max power. the ferrai motor will run for 1 minute, the other one will run for 10 minutes.producing the same power overall. all motors use only 30 percent of the energy in the fuel. if they spent time n worked out how to use up that other 70 wasted when we run a motor wed be much better off that screwing more power out just by finding new ways to burn more fuel.

[@gafrers]

Great analysis as always

[@Okuni_]

can't wait for the XX version of this car ngl

[@mosca3289]

Reminds me of the look of Toyota Eagle MkIII IMSA Racer.

[@procatprocat9647]

2,3kWh ?! Surely capacitors would be better at that capacity? F1 relevance sells cars .. ... yes, i get that. (it's already the old F1 tech unfortunately)

[@iulian2548]

Good overview of the car, thank you. Still waiting for the design to grow on me. They are devaluing the brand with so many cars, most of which will not be driven. Maybe they are pushing two cars for each buyer, one to drive the other to hoard :)

[@Stingraeee]

the v6 coming from the 296 gt3 and 499p surely were for customer who want to drive his 499p to the road but because 499p wasnt for the road legally so ferrari made this F80 for the customer to drive it down the road.

[@phildem414]

In no time, hypercars will be able to power the grid of a small village 🙄. Personally, I wonder who will make a modern De Tomaso Valellunga. A A110 is kind of that in a sense.

[@djlivus]

Most beautiful ferrari hypercar- in the lineage starting with GTO 288

[@on_wheels_80]

I'd say your video is able to add back a significant amount of value to the F80, which was diminished by its non-sounding V6, its relative abundance and its iffy looks.

[@CertifiedIndustryProfessional]

I suspect this car will catch fire a lot.

[@DioTheGreatOne]

The only thing I dislike about it is the same thing I dislike about almost all modern Ferraris: The black accents. Jesus Christ, why can't Ferrari stop plastering black paint on half of body of their cars?? It looks like the type of thing Mansory does.

[@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire]

Only on the 12 Cilindri it's reasonable, as it's a callback to the original Daytona

[@R_Nedza]

Beautiful! Thanks!

[@augustortiz]

The Valkyrie is still #1 at the moment in my eyes.

[@emmeXXtreme]

Like it or not this is what peek design and performance looks like 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@alanbutcherer4907]

The fact is: no matter how ugly it is, if they put a V12, no one would complant!

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

If you cut 1,500 pounds from a car, you don’t need over 1,000 horsepower.

[@GF-mf7ml]

The amount fo cooling weight is insane.

[@recca7]

This won't be the worst and for sure won't be the best. As fellow tifoso i hate how this car has caused so much negative press as this was a very highly anticipated car from the ferrari😮‍💨

[@zlm001]

Anyways, I won’t care at all about the F80’s looks as long as Ferrari build a different model that has a design stunning enough to be worthy of being called the successor to the LaFerrari. I don’t think this design will grow on me like the F35’s design did. With the F80 it feels like it’s so gd close to being perfect, but they did just barely enough to make it a little ugly. It’s like I ordered a poster of my dream car Ferrari, but the poster doesn’t quite match what they showed online. Basically, they stole away my dream car.

[@marciomicio]

I'm just gonna say this: it does not have the scream of a v12, but turbines comparable to Group B era...

[@deeovanmowatt8855]

I think your downforce figure on the AMG One is wrong. You should fix that.

[@RMhoneybadger]

Wing fully up, it has shades of F50 GT.

[@kidoctane]

Finally, a Ferrari I can take to visit a bakery.

[@janwlaaa]

Why would Ferrari want to make the F80 as usable as a normal Ferrari? That's just completely absurd. Even if, it's not any more usable than, say, a LaFerrari. It's just less attractive.

[@ravishkasilva2851]

Tech doesn’t match the design

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

The only reason why it's so controversial is cause of Ferrari having a v6 in it. If it where two of those Le mans v6 TT engines remodeled as a V12 TT version of it the complaints would be gone. The comments from Ferrari on the choice hasn't helped. It's a good looking car just that Ferrari choice of engine is what's making it controversial.

[@vercingetorige400]

overstyled like crazy, unlike Roma and 296

[@dylanburston7453]

If only people were not numberist. And realised that Ferrari has used V6s for nearly a decade in the 80s for F1 (got their last constructors championship before Schumi with a V6) The fact that this engine won Le Mans twice should be more than enough. IDK why Ferrari dont say that instead of saying "inspired by a Motorsport legacy" or corprate BS like that. Say that its won the 24 hour of Le Mans twice, the 24 hour of Nurburgring, and the 24 hours of Daytona.

[@hhistertheosis]

No. The main reason is because it's an ugly car, the second reason is because it sounds like shit and the third reason is because it has a V6. If the first 2 weren't controversial, no one cared that much about the layout of the engine. I think most people understand the reasons behind it.

[@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire]

​@@dylanburston7453Ferrari customers don't care about that at all.

[@dylanburston7453]

@@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire Must be why its sold out then, and why Ferrari stonks are going thru the roof

[@aydankhaliq2967]

I'm fine with how the car looks until the wing pops up.

[@k.r.99]

I'm waiting for the F80xx before i make my purchase choice

[@Def_Not_Me]

1:53 didn't AMG ONE got MGU-H too?

[@BSport320]

Yes, but that is literally the F1 engine. I was talking about road car engines, that now get an MGUH.

[@deeovanmowatt8855]

@@BSport320you amg one downforce figure is wrong. Fix please

[@0xC5]

i know it kind of looks like a brick and sounds like a vacuum cleaner but i really like this thing. feels like the ferrari that the engineering team got to just run wild with, style be damned. it's endearing!

[@FERAS-ALKHATEEB]

Beautiful CAR! 🤩🤩🤩

[@Tuxy79]

So Ferrari made a 918 with turbo V6, P1 intakes and active wing. Then beat it with an ugly stick. No thanks. Doesn’t look good or sound good. Nothing short of dominance will save its reputation.

[@fifteen8850]

Disagree but go off

[@Mqtisse]

the thing is they have a costumer car with the lemans winning v6 from the 499p, the 499p modificata. It makes no sense to make a road car and focus this much on performance while compromising design, sound, emotion and desirability so much. If you want ferrari perfomance buy a 499p modificata or a XX program car, the people buy this 3mil f80 certainly can afford it. The ferrari halo car should be the best ferrari ROAD car. Emotion, design, sound, desirability are just as, if not more, important than performance, which is comprimised anyway becuase it is a road car. Plus they have a v12 in the purosangue, the sp3 and the 12cilindri. This is clearly emissions/greenwashing bs. 3million and you dont even get the best, far from it, dissapointment to many ferrari loyalists im sure.

[@jeffwill4923]

When I first saw the mules already knew disappointment was coming😡. Regs were going to mute any engine. This has to be a street legal global car sadly. V12 will be used for Iconic and unique spec models. All we can do hope next model has a real engine.

[@ravishkasilva2851]

Can’t they just put license plate on 499p it’s beautiful race car could have been special.

[@phillyphil1513]

# NO GROWTH PERIOD

[@hugoagogo9435]

It’s growing on me the more I see it. Personally I think it will age well. The big 5 became 6

[@Desert_Rogue_Tanker]

Yet,they couldn't be bothered to modify Schumachers V10 and drop it in a limited edition car🤦

[@hhistertheosis]

I don't like this car but... what year do you live? 2002? Are you a time traveller? That would never happen! Lol.

[@GF-mf7ml]

It mean race engine shouldn't be in road car because there's no rules. Make whatever you want go crazy.

[@Desert_Rogue_Tanker]

@@hhistertheosis no, it's simply that Ferrari has NEVER in it's history used a V10 in it's road cars.the only F1 engine they ever used was the V12 in the F50. All I'm saying is that you're celebrating your 80th anniversary with this car why not do something you've NEVER DONE. While I'm not from 2002, I'm far older than that😅 I think using the F80's drivetrain would be great for an icona series. How many people do you think would disregard how ugly this looks to some people if this was like the CGT with a F1 derived V10 and a stick? Maybe there's a chance that they'll do exactly that for an icona series and not this if you could call it a "standard limited edition" model

[@Dakkyun]

​@@Desert_Rogue_Tanker They are riding the wave of their WEC sucess, makes sense to drop that engine in. No one ever really cared about what ferrari think it is, that's why they're getting hated, they are loved because they used to build borderline deathtraps like the F40, F50, engineering wise, V10 doesn't really make sense in this day and age. Hybrid is good because it reuses spent energy. And the comment section seems to only care about the theatrical aspect, not the engineering (case in point, porsche 930(killed a lot of people), carreraGT(RIP paul), 458 and Laferrari, never heard comments about performance on both of those, only engine sounds. However, it would have been a different story had they made the F80 hybrid system as loud as the 499P onboard, hybrid has their own theatrical aspect that wasn't fully utilized.

[@Desert_Rogue_Tanker]

@Dakkyun well theater is a part of why you buy a hyper or supercar. Yes the CGT killed Paul(RIP) all I'm saying is Ferrari likes to use heritage, there's untapped potential in it. Let's just say they modernized the v10.punch it up to 3.5-4.0L and a stick.instant collectors item.just look at the values for stick Ferraris vs dct

[@randompalmtopgaming7541]

B.. I think you've made a ridiculous mistake at 10:13 There is absolutely NO WAY that the AMG One creates only 360kg of downforce!

[@BSport320]

These numbers are calculated for 250km/h, so we can compare cars. It does create more downforce.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

In reality, I feel like Mercedes are the ones who focused on realistic targets with the tyre performance. I imagine other cars there are having to shed some downforce at that load somehow to stop the tyres from exploding or is that more of a risk under heavy braking. 🤔

[@fjandro9646]

​​@@BSport320 We've already gotten used to the power/weight ratio. I think it would be good to start introducing the downforce/weight ratio for better comparisons

[@Taverius]

It sounds like a bathroom extractor fan though, at least the 499p sounds half decent 😂

[@fifteen8850]

Nah, honestly the racing version of the v6 has an awful tone imo. The 296 actually sounds like a mini v12

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

If the v6 spins at over 10,000 rpm like say maximum rpm at 12,000 like that T50 I think people wouldn't complaint so much and it would be more powerful and faster.

[@notsanger]

the Lamborghini Temerario did just that, replacing a v10 with a ttv8 that revs to 10k, and people still complained. its the turbos that matter, more specifically modern turbos. The F40 is an exception due to how new and undeveloped turbos were, giving it more character.

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

@@notsanger Making a point cause the V6 in the F1 car can go upto 15,000 rpm. Teams can go higher but fuel economy and wear and tear prevents them from pushing the engine further. Ferrari could of definitely allow to rev higher at least if they desired.

[@yammt3148]

It's just an overdesigned ugly car. That simple.

[@lovelehstuff]

10:11 downforce figures are outdated

[@sp4604]

it looks like a transformer robot and sounds like a lawnmower.the soul of their once magnificent engines and gracefull lines are gone